1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a a me 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: a q a which is a q a wo man, dude, 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: be aqute it with too today to be a. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Qu a a. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm doing just fine. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 4: It's a little chilly this in between weathers for the birds. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 4: It's like freezing in the morning, how is hew during 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: the day, chilli in the evening, then freezing in the 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 4: like chili in the early evening, and you know, like 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: super cold and it. 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I just don't know what to do. My body is 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: going up downside to side. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: My trunk is just littered with like sweaters and hats 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: and coats that get shed. But it's a beautiful day 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: and I'm happy to be here with you. Your birthday 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: party was air thing. 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, I love that like that husband, 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: I was like, not him coming outside. 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: I know, there were several times that day I thought 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna come acause he was annoying me. 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: Like had it What did he say? Because I'm like, I. 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Asked him, I was like, what was it like being 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: being out? And he said that he thinks he's forgotten 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: how to be social, and. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Because he seems social, you know, like no, he was 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: he is. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, I think he has some social anxiety just 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: like I do. But it was very hard, I think, 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: to be uncomfortable in your space with the kind of 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: people that you had around, because just all felt like family, 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, like maybe you don't know everybody's name, 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: but your all family. I got the cookout, you know 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, Oh my god, the food. 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 4: Nichia girl, when I tell you and eat s h a, okay, yeah, 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lie. People were eating things they don't even 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: people are like, I don't even eat rab meat. And 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: they was tearing down the ox, the oxtails. 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I've had an oxtail in 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: the last decade. And I was like, Nicha made it. 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying it. 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: I mean it was her and her sister naw just 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: cook from such a place of love. 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just become like family. But she made oxtail. 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: She made turkey chops with I never had a turkey 45 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: chops until I've heard of pork chop. 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: I didn't. I'm like, what's the turkey chop? Delicious is 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: what it is? 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: Honeyglaze, salmon, jerk chicken. And then it was like rostapasta 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: like it was an herb in something mashed potatoes per urban, 50 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 4: but I don't even know it. 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Was mashed potatoes. The greens though, for me, it's always 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: about the greens. Yes, the greens and the corn bread. 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Oh that corn bread literally me and you said it best. 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: You were like, yo, the food is like the Thriller 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: Like I think it was either you so somebody said 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: it was like the Thriller album. 57 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: No skips, Yes, really need that. 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 59 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: I kept looking for something that I didn't want to 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: eat or that looked like it maybe be a little like, 61 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: you know, like a throwaway for the vegans or something. 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: Nope, but the corn bread was vegan and it was 63 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: as skips. It was yesips. 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: Honestly, this was probably one of my best birthdays ever 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: from being honest, because I am learning that if you 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: want something doesn't magically fall from the sky. Because some 67 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: birthdays I'd be like, you know, I don't want any 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: do anything, and then nothing happens, and then I'm sad. 69 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, well girl, you plan for nothing and nothing happened. 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: This time, I said, no, how do you want your 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 4: birthday to go? I'm like, I love Upstate New York. 72 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: I go every year around this time because the foliage is. 73 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: In full fall bloom. 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 4: I did that for the weekend and then for my 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: birthday on my actual birthday, and my sisters and I 76 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: went to dinner, which was so great. And then I 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: really wanted family and friends to come to the condo 78 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: for the condo warming and plus birthday. I wanted good, delicious, 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: niche of food, but I wanted a house full of love. 80 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: And that's what I got. Just the most amazing people 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: in my life. And just to see people who I 82 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: knew didn't know each other talk. 83 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I'm always really mindful. 84 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: Well, everybody in mind is just awesome because I have 85 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: curated all the nastiness out. 86 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: If you're listening and. 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: You're out, you're out, but just kind, loving, like I 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: love how you and my childhood friend EJ had like 89 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: she was oh my god, I had that same outfit. 90 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she's beautiful, yeah yes. 91 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: And so like, I just love that that everybody there 92 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: is just super kind, super great. 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: And you know, even my my my boyfriend was there. 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: Experiencing his own social anxieties. I was like, girl, please, 95 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: everybody was great. 96 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: I loved his fit. I was like that quilted bomber 97 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: jacket and the lavender top, Like I was just like, Okay, 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: I love this post gender conforming fashion. 99 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: But it was just really great and I just loved 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 4: have everybody there and plus like the place just came 101 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: together so wonderfully. 102 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really did stunning to your interior designer, uh 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: Rihanna of Rehome Remain Remain Home. Oh my God, and 104 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: her husband. I know she did like so much of 105 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: it though, but ps the resistance, I mean was the deck, 106 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: core baby, the quality the furniture. I died a little 107 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: bit when Terrell walked in with that plate of food 108 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: into your living room and I was like rive out, 109 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: Like I. 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: Mean, even though you know, I made sure I scotch 111 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: God damn, but you know, and I think. 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: That's why we were all slipping and busting almost busting her. 113 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: But I think you scotched guarden a little too close 114 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: to the sun. 115 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: I think I did because I was a slip and 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: slide and that. But yeah, I was thinking. I was like, 117 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: I think I cleaned the Floyds a little bit too good. 118 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: Just have a little basket of grippy socks if you 119 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: don't want a lawsuit. It's all like that, you know 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: what I mean? I get your homeowner's insurance. It was great, 121 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: it was. 122 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: I know you guys have questions. I think our last question. 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're here for that. 124 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gonna take your Carrea questions question. 125 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: I can you want to be the first one? You 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: want me to be the first one? Oh? You go 127 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: for it? All right? 128 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Got it from a jazzman Janz Jazz. 129 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: It starts off with hey, hey, love that for her. 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: I have a question for a future Baqa, which is now, 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 4: please don't use my name, call me Jasmine. 132 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: We love when you give us a fake name. 133 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: I work in healthcare communications and it's something I fell into. 134 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: I've been job hunting for a while and getting a 135 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: few interviews, but never the final offer. All these jobs 136 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: have much higher salaries that I currently make. Recently, we 137 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: had a quarterly update where our top boss said, we 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: know money matters, but we're working really hard to improve 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: the environment because you stay for people, not money. Spoken 140 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: like someone who is untouched by inflation? 141 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: Am I right? Girl? 142 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: Is he crazy? 143 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Anyway? Oh? She says, anyway. 144 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 4: My question is how do I bring up to my 145 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: direct manager that money is actually why I say okay, 146 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: And is it possible to leverage interviews into a salary 147 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 4: increase when it's clear that that's not a retention priority 148 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: of the org. I'm open and eager to leave, so 149 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 4: that's definitely an option. But with no office at the moment, 150 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: I want to do what I can where I am 151 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: for now. Thanks for your help, and I hope you 152 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: have a very happy holiday season. 153 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: Gas Man. I see you put your real name here, 154 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: but gas is your name? That made sense? Of course 155 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: it does. And anyway, yeah, so yeah, so much love 156 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 2: to y'all. 157 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, so it's the holiday season. 158 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: First of all, I just real quick, and I'm gonna 159 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: you take it, Mandy, because this is the domain. 160 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Let me read that box for a moment. Is you crazy? 161 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: I mean, what are we talking about? Not in Harriet 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: Tubman's Internet. Are we talking about people working for free? 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: It's giving slavery. 164 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about for free. 165 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: I know, I'm just saying, I'm just this is yeah. 166 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: This is when the HR girls in the back are like, god, damn, 167 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: ben All it is just another ten Another time it's 168 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: like I saying the wrong thing, out of touch with 169 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: the people. 170 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 2: We stay for the people. It's like, people have bills 171 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: to pay? Are you crazy? So I just want to 172 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: be them? And then the so, mandra, what do give 173 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: jazz jazz? 174 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: So my first bit of advice is, don't let this 175 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: offhand remark that was made where your top boss says, 176 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: you know, this completely like out of touch thing. Don't 177 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: let it dissuade you from the facts of the matter, 178 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: which is that obviously you're there for money, and so 179 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: is your that boss whoever said that. So what I 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: would do is, Oh, the point I wanted to make 181 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: with interviewing is that you don't even necessarily need a 182 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: hard and fast job offer to use it as a 183 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: leverage for higher pay. Where you're at the fact that 184 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: you have been interviewing, and that you have been interviewing 185 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: and seen a string of opportunities that you're qualified for, 186 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: and that you've been interviewing for that pay you significant 187 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: that would pay you significantly more. That in and of 188 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: itself is a piece of data that you can bring 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: to your manager and say, hey, I you know, I 190 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: would like to discuss my compensation. I've done my own 191 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: market research through just you know, publicly available data that 192 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: you can get online. But also I've been getting approached 193 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: candidly by recruiters from other firms that are and I'm 194 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: happy to share with you some of those job descriptions, 195 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: but very similar positions and pay on average twenty five 196 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: percent more or whatever the number is than what I'm making. 197 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: Can we talk about getting my salary in line with 198 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: the market value that it currently is? And I am 199 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: sorry to this big boss of yours who said something 200 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: so stupid, but retention salary like market value of someone 201 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: of an employee and paying you properly according to the 202 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: market value that is of the most powerful retention factor 203 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: out there. And you one would hope that you could 204 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: work with colleagues who are like respectful and not assholes, 205 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: and that is nice for a company culture, but it's not. 206 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: It's kind of it should be not. It shouldn't be 207 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: something that you like. It shouldn't be so rare that 208 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: you're bragging about it, like, well here everyone is great 209 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah bah blah. Well that's just how 210 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: it should be. But what we can't take for granted 211 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: is like, are you paying me my value? So I 212 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: would keep interviewing for sure, and especially since we're heading 213 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: into right now it's late October when we're recording this 214 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: and heading into the end of the year season, I 215 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: would put your case together for here is what I've 216 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: been hearing, Here's what my market value is today. What 217 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: do we what can we do to get my compensation 218 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: to be more in line with what the marketplace is 219 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: telling me that I'm worth. And just make it about 220 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: the facts. And you don't need to bring up that 221 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: conversation about your you know, your boss and what they said, 222 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: And you don't need to say I'm here for the money. 223 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: You just need to say the facts of I'm worth 224 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: more money, so then pay it to me. 225 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: The end. 226 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: That was good advice, But that was hilarious what no 227 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: I said? That was hilarious about the boss. Oh yeah, 228 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: you know, people need money or whatever. 229 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: And what I'm having is a. 230 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: Bad girl but Kumbaya and a pizza lunch. Yes, no, 231 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: save it, save it, save it, save it. All right, 232 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick break and come back 233 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: with another question from my favorite pseudonym ever, corporate Kisha. 234 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: All right, ba fan, we are back. 235 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: So we got a DM from corporate Kisha. I love 236 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: this pseudonym. It's one of my favorite alias says we've 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: ever had. Corpora Kisha says, I have been a longtime 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: listener of your podcast, and I've gained so much insight. 239 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: I'm reaching out because I'm currently in corporate law in 240 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: a low cost of living southern state, but I'm considering 241 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: moving to New York City. I'd love your thoughts on 242 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 3: how to approach negotiating a salary increase and relocation package 243 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: with my employer to make this transition smooth. I currently 244 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: earn one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars per year. 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: I save and invest actively with thirty five thousand in 246 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: emergency savings. I contribute fourteen hundred a month to my 247 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: four oh one K and five hundred to a broken account. Yes, 248 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: ten out of ten. 249 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: No notes. 250 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: Given the higher cost of living in taxes in New 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: York City, I'm seeking advice on a reasonable salary adjustment 252 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: to maintain my current savings and investments, as well as 253 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: guidance on what to expect from a relocation package. Thank 254 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 3: you for all you do. Looking forward to your advice. 255 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: All right, so let me get something. You're considering a 256 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: move to New York City. Is it just for fundsies 257 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: or is your company moving you to New York City? 258 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: Because that's where it can get challenging in a big way, 259 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: because if you're moving because like you just want to, 260 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: you can definitely push for a relocation and compensation adjustment. 261 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: You can ask for it. But if it's not the 262 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: company itself telling you that you need to be moving 263 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: to the new city, the likelihood that they'll give it 264 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: to you is a lot less, Like I hate to 265 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: bring that to you. And New York City is incredibly expensive. 266 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: Why do you want to come here? 267 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: Do you think that she should just interview for brand 268 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: new jobs in general in New York with like the 269 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: New York City budget to pay her that? Could? 270 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: You know? 271 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: That could definitely work. I mean, she doesn't say, she 272 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: says corporate law, like, there's a good chance that they 273 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: have an office in New York and it could be 274 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: that she just wants to move to their New York office, 275 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: you know. And if that's the case, then I think 276 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: she has a better likelihood of getting a relocation package. 277 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: And as far as like what to expect out of it, 278 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: it could be that they pay your just the moving expenses. 279 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: It can cost thousands of dollars to move cross country 280 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: and technically south to New York City is kind of 281 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: like cross country even though it's up and down whatever 282 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: geography what. But you might get that relocation package. They 283 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: may help you find an apartment, so they may give 284 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 3: you access to like a realtor or a yeah, I 285 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: guess you're still called the realtor if it's even a renter. 286 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: You're helping renters find a place, but hook you up 287 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: with someone a broker maybe who can help you find 288 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: your first apartment. Moving expenses, but the compensation package, you 289 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: would for sure want to do some you know, do 290 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: some research into your company itself and like see if 291 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: they mention anything on their website about cost of living 292 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: adjustments for relocation benefits. That's typically like something that if 293 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: it's an established firm, which it sounds like you work for, 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: like the HR team's probably going to have like a 295 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: structured plan for how we determine like or do cost 296 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: of living adjustments. And they may say, okay, based on 297 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: this new office and cost of living, here's the expected 298 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: salary increase and here's where when it would go into effect. 299 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: But as far as like being able to negotiate on 300 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: top of that, that gets a lot trickier. So it 301 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: may not be that you can save exactly as much 302 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: as you're saving, you know, however much they decide to 303 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: give you a month, like they decide what you know, 304 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: they'll look at probably the Department of Labor and and 305 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: like other sources to find out what the standard costs 306 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: of living are where you are, but to to guarantee 307 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: you'll have enough room in your budget for this generous 308 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: savings you know, strategy that you have and investing strategy 309 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: that you have. They're not gonna necessarily think about that 310 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: or guarantee it, so that that's going to be up 311 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: to you to figure out. Okay, do that makes sense? 312 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: It does? 313 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: I mean I think I was just word vomiting. 314 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: No, And I don't know. 315 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: If you've been to New York before, you might want 316 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: to spend a little extra time before making the move move. 317 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: I mean, like I also moved up here, but I 318 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: didn't move with a job. I mean I did move 319 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: with the job that I did have a salary when 320 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: I moved up here, but I didn't like relocate within 321 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: the same company. Hmm. But the outer boroughs are where 322 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: it's at if you would like to save money, but 323 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: then you have to factor in like your transportation. Yeah, 324 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: there's all sorts of things, but I would never like, 325 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: I'm not at all going to be one of those 326 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: people who's like New York City has closed, you can't 327 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: come here, Like, no, come on. 328 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: Girl for Atlanta. Atlanta is like I'm tied god. Yeah. 329 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: And also two they're I mean there are you know, 330 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: people be. 331 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: Talking back about Jersey, but I live here and I'm Winny. 332 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, no matter where you go, it's you know, 333 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: there you are basically, so you know, I just want 334 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: you to go with like all like the what is 335 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: it going to cost? 336 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: What does actually look like? 337 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: And then also adjusting expectations there are you know, there's 338 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: a difference like I don't know, if you live at 339 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: a home now you're likely to be living in an apartment, 340 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: you know, is it a walk up? It's different like 341 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: moving from the house of the condo. There's definitely some 342 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: things I'm like, wait, so how do I do groceries 343 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: because I parked here, but the interest is here, so 344 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: I had to buy one of them little carts you know. 345 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh I know. 346 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm a cart lady, which is actually 347 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: kind of fun because I'm twelve. 348 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: But then you know, before you know, you take it 349 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: to groceries and you're like, oh, two three trips? Anybody 350 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: got time for that? We all going together. 351 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: So there's just the adjustments. And then also too, like 352 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: I said, if you live in a house, I mean, thankfully, 353 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: my neighbors are pretty quiet, but then you know there's 354 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: you know, especially New York. I'm not gonna lie. When 355 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: I visit my friends, I'm like, so all night long, 356 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: oh every day, can SI getta? 357 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: Well? 358 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: Listen, my neighbor plays very loud Philippino, So I guess 359 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: that's what's the tug along anyway? Yeah, not tag along, 360 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: tag along, but it always looks like that. I know. 361 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: I read it the same way Christian gospel music, which 362 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: is a very specific flavor of music, and they sang 363 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: very loud. And I have a house, so. 364 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Wow, So yeah, there's always you know this. You take 365 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: the good, you take it back, you take both of 366 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: you have the facts of life? Are you too young 367 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: for Facts of Life? 368 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 4: On the show, you're too young for that, right, huh? 369 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 3: Anyway, if you as that was the one that regime 370 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: was on, and then she went to living single. 371 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: Uh, oh yeah, oh look at you. Yes, her name 372 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: was Yes, she was like a little girl too d. Yeah. 373 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: Oh man, I can give you it'sic we connected to 374 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: living single like then I will find a way. 375 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: She was very young, like sixteen seventeen, you know, she 376 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: played two D and then Yes, I mean that wasn't 377 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: the transition. 378 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't like bye, now you're living single. No, it 379 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: was just she played on both. 380 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, that song, the lyrics, it's just you take 381 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: the good, you take the bad, you take them both, 382 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 4: and then you have the facts of life. 383 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: So just being mindful of that, and if you have 384 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: questions about career. 385 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: Business, money, entrepreneurship finances, you can ask them because every 386 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: Friday we do be a QA. You could slide in 387 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 4: our dms on ig, which is probably our favorite place. 388 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: We are broad and Vision Podcast, or you could email 389 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: us at Branna Vision Podcast at gmail dot com. We 390 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: can go to Brown and Vision Podcast dot and click 391 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: contact us and it will land in our inbox. 392 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: Either way, ask ask, ask. 393 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: Away and we will answer answer or answer away and 394 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: reminder to go to Brandnemission podcast dot com and please 395 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: fill out our listener survey for twenty twenty four We've 396 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: already got like fifty incredible BA fan who have responded, 397 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: and thank you the thoughtful replies. I promise you I'm 398 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: reading every single one. And really it's just an opportunity 399 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: to like get to know what you guys are dealing 400 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: with right now and also what you want for BA 401 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. 402 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: Because we got to change and leave us a review. 403 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: That's how people Yeah you us, You know, do we 404 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: get any new ones what we read or no? 405 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can't want somebody. 406 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: So if we leave U some review, especially on the 407 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: Apple on the Apple site, yeah, it just means that 408 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 4: we get boosted. People get to see us here. So 409 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: we have so many reviews and maybe. 410 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 3: Are going to find our reviews when I don't have 411 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: access to charitable anymore. 412 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: I know. 413 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 4: That's why chartable is going out of business, right, Okay, 414 00:19:59,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: thanks suck. 415 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: Really to change is. 416 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: Oh, because I know some of you guys canna ask 417 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 4: me sometimes you guys be asking me my lip color? 418 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: This is rich Aunty? Is this rich Auntie? 419 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 4: Yes by lip bar a black own brand, but the 420 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: liner is Nars some purple dark color. 421 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't remember what to call. 422 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: The way that we have put yes, and so people 423 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: like ba fam who came to the show where we're 424 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: also wearing rich Aunty. I think we have talked about 425 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: it many a time, but it is the perfect color. 426 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like the sister here of the 427 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: Traveling Pants, but for lip color for women of color. 428 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: I think, look, you know you can like depending on you, 429 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: you know, you know, like you might not. I'm a 430 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: lip linder girl because I've got dark lips naturally, so 431 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: like I liplind to, like you know, make it and 432 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 4: make it my own. But I feel like every rich 433 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: Auntie looks good on all the skin tones. 434 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we do have a couple of newer views. Okay, 435 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: so I think g Sella when g Sellar o MG 436 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: says five stars, it's educational, comforting, They're hilarious. What else 437 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: can you ask for, Ladies, You've helped me be financially whole, 438 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: even if I'm still a work in progress. The love 439 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: and vulnerability give me great comfort when I'm feeling a 440 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 3: little extra vulnerable myself. It makes situations a little more 441 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: human for me. Thank you for being friends. Oh and 442 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: then so so T says love with seven o's love you, ladies. Hey, 443 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: Mady and tif First of all, you get ten stars 444 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: because you're both amazing. Thank you for being authentic. There's 445 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: so much that I want to say, but just know 446 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: that I'm rooting for you both as you root for 447 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: us Brown women. Also, please have another live event, as 448 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't make this one. I'd love to meet you 449 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: and tell you in person how much your advice have 450 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: meant to me over the years. From so so, she 451 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: says her name is Solange. Ye, thank you, Solange. Hey, sister, 452 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: Oh behave fam What can we say? Just it's love, 453 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: It's all love. Thank you so much. I can't find 454 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: my tab where I'm actually looking at Tiffany, so I 455 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: don't know what Okay, I have so many browsers open, 456 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: and I don't know where I am anymore. Oh, there 457 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: you are. 458 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: I V A fan. 459 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: Until next time, have a great day. Thank you for listening. 460 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: Bye y'all, Bye,