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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunk's Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Thursday, May fourteenth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I'm g Skis here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always task Melis.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot hop boy Trey

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Speaker 1: I just noticed our light is not on the No

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're always late because you're too busy looking at

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Speaker 3: So it's a very good point. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: to be early. Thanks for everyone for being here.

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Speaker 1: Though, I hit the button subscribe podcast listeners. You're good

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Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews. This is just right on

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Speaker 1: time for you. On today's No Dunks though, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about the seventy six ers firing Darryl Morey

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Speaker 1: as president. NBA referees, they're calling more fouls in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's up eleven percent to the regular season. Pistons fans

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Speaker 1: I'm sure are like, are they? And Max Streuce his

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Speaker 1: eyes are so pretty. He's got Charles Barkley feel in

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Speaker 1: a particular way. That was awesome, amazing. Yeah, that's like

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Speaker 1: the best inside moment of the playoffs so far.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the season pot is up there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'll get to Strus a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: Those beautiful eyes. We start with that game that Struce

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Speaker 1: was involved in, and he was awesome on the court too.

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Speaker 1: But James Harden scored a playoff best thirty points to

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Speaker 1: help the Cavaliers come back from a nine point deficit

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Speaker 1: late in regulation to beat the Pistons one seventeen, one

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Speaker 1: thirteen in overtime last night, Cleveland takes the three to

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Speaker 1: two lead in their Eastern Conference semifinals series. Zilla wrote

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Speaker 1: in his newsletter this morning, I'll start with this, You

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Speaker 1: can't really call that a good game. An exciting game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A tense game, yes, and yes, uh, but I think

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Speaker 1: Ziller's right, t K good, maybe not a little sloppy

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Speaker 1: of times, but holy crap, was a tense and I think, look,

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Speaker 1: the Pistons blew this too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course they did.

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Speaker 4: They were up three with like or they were up

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Speaker 4: nine with three minutes left and just didn't score, missed

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Speaker 4: their last five shots. Also threw in a twenty four

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Speaker 2: It felt like this game.

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Speaker 4: Was whoever could stop turning the ball over for the

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Speaker 4: longest amount of time was gonna win, because both teams

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Speaker 4: were doing okay in half court setups, but all the

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Speaker 4: turnovers for the Calves in the first half left the

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Speaker 4: Pistons build a big lead. Then the Calves finally get

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Speaker 4: control of the ball in the third quarter, they come

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Speaker 4: back get in the game as well, and just went

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Speaker 4: back and forth. Turnover turnover, turnover, whoever's turning the ball

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Speaker 4: over the most ends up losing. But uh yeah, this

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Speaker 4: is just another big time performance in the playoffs from

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Speaker 4: James Harden. What everybody's expecting, what everybody's talking about. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure this is leading all of the talk shows today, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I know when he had those two

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Speaker 4: bad games, they were all over him. But he's had

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Speaker 4: three great games. Kind of carried the calves in this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then also had an absolutely abysmal fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: like most perplexing or perfect I guess encapsulating game. You're right,

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Speaker 1: he carried them for stretches. Has been awesome here in series,

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Speaker 1: but up brutal fourth quarter, But then big plays made

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Speaker 4: don't care if he's doing other stuff, and he was

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Speaker 4: doing other stuff, most often getting to the free throw line,

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Speaker 4: getting blocks in overtime. He was kind of a two

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Speaker 4: way player, I thought last night for the Calves, and

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Speaker 4: Mitchell was struggling up until overtime. Hit three big shots

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Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell. Just enough shot making from him and a

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Speaker 4: carry job by Harden. I thought to get over the line,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, the Pistons, they're gonna really regret this one

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Speaker 4: because we've seen the Calves not be able to respond

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Speaker 4: to a run like this in the playoffs before this, playoffs,

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Speaker 4: certainly last playoffs. But they're crediting their new edition James

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Speaker 4: Harden for the even keeled demeanor that they show in

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Speaker 4: situation like this. It doesn't matter if we're up twenty

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Speaker 4: same way, and that is absolutely true. If he's throwing

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Speaker 4: If he's hitting tough shots, he also looks completely unfazed.

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Speaker 4: So big time win for the Cavs and definitely regrets

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Speaker 2: Up nine three minutes left.

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Speaker 3: I thought there was incredible place by both James Harden

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Speaker 3: of Heaven. Those last three minutes, there's three big plays

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Speaker 3: that somehow made up that nine point deficit. It started

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Speaker 3: it somehow right to James Harden made a perfect catch.

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Speaker 3: He caught it immediately off the buck, gave it to

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Speaker 3: Next play, Donovan Mitchell has a fast break. It's a

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Speaker 3: one on three and somehow the ball Sir Thompson smacks

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Speaker 3: Mobley unfortunately, gave was kind of peering elsewhere. Mobiley dunk.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a five point lead. Next play, it was

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Speaker 3: just a nice play. Evan Mobley had a three. No

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Speaker 3: hands of heaven there, just a nice play to make

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Speaker 3: it two point game, and then the one that gave

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Speaker 3: I mean Harden missed his shot going in. It was

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Speaker 3: You don't see James Harden catch it with one hand

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Speaker 3: You don't see that to Donovan Mitchell in the corner,

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Speaker 3: and somehow he threw it to Max Shrews. Did he

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Speaker 3: those two plays to get it to Max Shrews, who

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Speaker 3: got it to Evan Bobley, who then was called on

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Speaker 3: a very late foul by Tony Brothers to him to

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Speaker 3: That was nine straight points. Again, I thought Mitchell and

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Speaker 3: James Harden's hands saved their season right there and killed

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Speaker 3: the Piston season right there. I know, I'm I'm assuming here,

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Speaker 3: I'm projecting that the Calves win this series. Now after

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Speaker 3: a loss like that to the Pistons, where they're up late.

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Speaker 3: But it sure feels like it both ways. If the

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Speaker 3: Calves don't steal this one, maybe you got to blow

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Speaker 3: the conference finals again because those wild plays. Those are

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Speaker 3: wild plays in the last three minutes. While on the

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Speaker 3: other side, as you said, Trey, they're scoreless. The Pistons

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Speaker 3: did not score the last three minutes. It was a

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Speaker 3: Cunningham miss jumper Paul Reid blocked instead of firing to

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Speaker 2: Should he have been more in the corner.

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Speaker 3: Maybe for Danis Jenkins pass, and then Cunningham misses Harris

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Speaker 3: beautiful offensive rebound, could have just scored, but you know

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Speaker 3: he threw it to Carris Lavert who missed. Bad three

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Speaker 3: minutes all around, terrible three minutes. And then Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 3: came alive the second half. Was James Harden it's my offense,

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Speaker 3: I'm just doing it at all and Mitchell just hanging

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Speaker 3: in the corner. Yeah, so it sure look like this

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Speaker 3: is exploding. After the game, hard and said, well, listen,

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Speaker 3: he was tired after kicking ass in game four and

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Speaker 3: what he had to do in the second half, but

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Speaker 3: still the offense looked bad. That was after that, again,

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Speaker 3: they only had two buckets until those last three minutes.

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Speaker 3: The Cavs were literally looking like they gave this game

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Speaker 3: away two buckets in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: No Pistons were in control for a majority of this game. Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, you went through those those two loose balls,

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Speaker 1: let's call them that where Mitchell and Harden both came

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Speaker 1: up with them. I mean, if the Pistons grabbed one

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad you brought up that one foul too, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's not overlook that Tobias Harris foul on Mobley, that

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Speaker 1: a little tired on that play, obviously near the end

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Speaker 1: he hit him and the foul was called there and

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Speaker 1: that got him to the line.

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Speaker 2: Brothers. Brothers took a long time to call that.

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Speaker 3: I watched him multiple times to see how long he

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Speaker 3: took because he didn't whistle it as soon as Tobias

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Speaker 3: Harris did go around Evan Mobley's arm.

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Speaker 2: He waited, He waited, Okay, I'm blowing the whistle. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. It was hard to tell if he hit

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Speaker 2: him or not, but still it was a weird late call.

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Speaker 1: But Mobile had to step to the line and knock

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Speaker 1: him down and he did. Guy's not like I was

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Speaker 1: he hit the three. So they made all the little

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Speaker 1: plays down the stretch. The one call that Tony Brothers

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Speaker 1: didn't make. Let's address now wild moment, final seconds of

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Asar Thompson sort of striped blocked Donovan

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Speaker 1: the loose ball. There appears to be contact from Jared Allen.

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Speaker 1: Their feet get tied up, and I thought, in real time,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, officials, they love this call. They love a

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Speaker 1: tripping call. Inaverton or not. They're like, yeah, they love it,

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Speaker 1: they'll call it. And they didn't. And obviously Pistons fans,

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Speaker 1: Trey think Sar Thompson not a great free throw shooter either,

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Speaker 1: triving to hit one. What was your reaction to it?

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Speaker 2: But this is the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I saw Piston's fans holding up signs that said hard

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Speaker 4: So I saw a postgame Tony Brothers said basically that

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Speaker 4: That's kind of what I thought. It was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's hard to It's hard to say that that play

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Speaker 3: is crazy to look at usar Thompson's eyes as he's

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Speaker 2: Not really. I think he's looking at the clock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not hitting the half court shot and there's

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Speaker 1: not I'm with you, there's not enough time for him

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Speaker 1: mean they blew like that sucks for Pistons fans. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, TK that's usually called. That was my point.

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Speaker 1: Was there? They were like was there enough time on

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Speaker 1: it's a huge uphill battle to climb here to obviously

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to help Kate of course, like he ran

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Speaker 4: I thought that possession with like forty five seconds or

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Speaker 2: They flattened things out.

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Speaker 4: They give Kate a chance to create and he takes

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Speaker 4: hounding him defensively. He's also given him three point shooting

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Speaker 4: taken it out of Caid's legs since he's got to

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Speaker 4: He just has had two bad second halves in these

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Speaker 3: It's nice to give Max Struce yet another glue guy

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Speaker 3: they won the third quarter thirty two to twenty, that the.

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Speaker 3: Just something, one basket and they win. Yeah, probably one

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Speaker 3: they couldn't do it. You know, Jalen Duran has a

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, let's talk about another one.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Duran. I mean somehow getting worse and worse here,

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Speaker 1: Bickerstaff goes to him, he plays the entire fourth and

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Speaker 1: Beef Stu. You know, you don't see him as the

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Speaker 1: But the jail and Duran of it all, I mean,

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Speaker 1: In fact, has gotten worse. Confidence is completely shook and

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Speaker 1: is there a drastic move in Game six on the road?

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Speaker 1: You mean don't play in period, I mean bring him

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He's not giving you anything.

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Speaker 4: He's not giving you anything. Like Jared Allen wasn't having

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Speaker 4: a good series either.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have a good first round.

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Speaker 4: He was great in Game seven against the Raptors, but

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Speaker 4: he was struggling through the first two games. Duran's been like,

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Speaker 4: You'd maybe put Isaiah Stewart after ahead of him. As well.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know if they can completely

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Speaker 4: Paul Read more minutes, if only because when there's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mobley has blocked him seven times coming into this game,

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Speaker 3: Evan Mobley was used in short roles. This game, you

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Speaker 2: That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, eight big assists and yeah, overall, you don't think, well,

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Speaker 3: Evan Mobley was destroyed them scoring wise. He didn't have

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Speaker 3: the offense package came through today.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, how do you feel about the Pistons chances

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Speaker 1: to get this back to Detroit for a game seven

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, a coin flip for me, Like, I

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Speaker 4: but even from quarter to the quarter, they're so up

431
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 4: and down that I don't really have a lot of

432
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 4: confidence that they can string together a perfect forty eight.

433
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 4: The only time we've seen a team play a good

434
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 4: forty eight minutes was Game four, you know. So I

435
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 4: think Detroit has a great chance and maybe Duncan Robinson comes.

436
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 2: Back that would help. The last was very apparent last night.

437
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 4: Kevin Herder, thanks for trying, but nah, that's a no

438
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 4: for me. Dog Marcus Sasser, at least you got some rebounds,

439
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 4: but that's a no.

440
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 2: For me exactly. So I don't know.

441
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 4: I think the Pistons can still win. I don't think

442
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 4: that the Cavs are undefeated at home so far, but

443
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean anything to me really. They've just had

444
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 4: those happened to be the good games for him. So

445
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: I think Detroit's still alive in this series for sure.

446
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I think this thing is over.

447
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: But it's not because of the way they're playing. I

448
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: just don't think they're going to react well to the

449
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 3: way this game ended.

450
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 2: Going to Cleveland.

451
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 3: I think if that was their season and this is

452
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 3: the James Harden trade working out and taking Donovan Mitchell

453
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 3: to his first conference files, it feels like but play wise, yeah,

454
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 3: it is coin flip out.

455
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 4: It did.

456
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: Hit Last night was a perfect example where that overtime

457
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: felt like a formality. It was like, yeah, the Cats

458
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: are probably winning. They had no right to win this game.

459
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: Come back the Pistons like shit the bed h Yeah,

460
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: they didn't get the call at the end there, but

461
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, you had so many chances to

462
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,479
Speaker 1: win this thing and go back to Cleveland up three two,

463
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: and you know, still credit to Cleveland for hitting the

464
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: big plays. Mitchell comes alive, hit some shots and then

465
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: they were rolling there in overtime. But man, I mean, look,

466
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: I had the Pistons in seven and when there was

467
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: like four minutes three minutes left on the clock in regulation,

468
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: I was feeling pretty damn good about that prediction. Oh yeah,

469
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: all right, this might go This might go classic. Just

470
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: home team wins every game here and maybe they pull

471
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: it off in seven, but little faith now after that one,

472
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: especially because you know Caid did run out of gas

473
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: whatever the doubles were coming. He had some sloppy turnovers

474
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: which he just needs to clean up. But he had

475
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: a monster game too. My god, what do you have

476
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: like thirty nine points and nine as sists something like that,

477
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: did a lot of the heavy lifting, had the three going,

478
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: had that one foot on the line there late there.

479
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know is he gonna be able to

480
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: do that again on the road And who's coming along

481
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: for the ride? And you're going to just have to

482
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: pray that Tobias Harris or Duncan Robinson in returning have

483
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: one of those games where the hit five or six threes.

484
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: I checked the the NBA official page number four. Yet

485
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: it's too early, Okay, it's tomorrow early, not yet submitted,

486
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: not yet submitted for both games.

487
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: But Duncan Robinson definitely would have helped.

488
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: Time and look in this game, it got scary for

489
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: a second for Cavs fans. I'm sure they were holding

490
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: their breath when Donovan Mitchell did tweak his ankle there.

491
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: Now it appeared looked like at first like he stepped

492
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 1: on a photographer, but he didn't. I don't think it

493
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: was more just his ankle took a weirdt turn but

494
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: obviously played through it. But he wasn't great until the

495
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: end when he hit some big shots. So yeah, Game

496
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: six Friday Night's hear what the people think in the

497
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: stream team whether Detroit can do it again at least

498
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: get it back to Little Caesars Arena for some Game

499
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: seven fun anything else on this one, guys.

500
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: I ran just just just quickly. Jalen Tyson not playing

501
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: the second half. A nice move by the cast. He

502
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: played for two minutes in the first half, got into

503
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: that thing, uh and then just couldn't.

504
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: Got grabbed his d numb.

505
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, grabbed his own hog.

506
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 1: Legler was laughing on the broadcast. I don't know if

507
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: you caught that in the slow moo replay when when

508
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: he was getting into it with Tobias Harris and the

509
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: full grab of the hog, you hear Legler laugh but

510
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: like he's not gonna say it on the broadcast, but

511
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty cooeh.

512
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: When a man grabbed his own hog right to fight,

513
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: because it's happened in NBA.

514
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Was pissed. They were like come on, relaxed man, like

515
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: his own guys like Mitchell is like, what are you doing?

516
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: And those are the only two minutes he played. Didn't

517
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: have it for the second half because it seems like

518
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of what they need, could have

519
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: I could have watched a little key on Ellis out there,

520
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: but anyway, Yeah, he's too small.

521
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Mysteries intruder gives them just enough.

522
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: Shrewder's playing one hundred percent. I would be sure was playing.

523
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: Shooter's coaching. Just see him on the sidelines down the stretch.

524
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: It was like out near the like half court mark

525
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: on the sideline, like I'm like, where's Kenny Atkins.

526
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: It's like Shooter's taking over your bill Russell Stole I

527
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: got this. But he's like he was calling out something

528
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: or obviously saw something. He was trying to get to

529
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: the players on the floor. I mean, yeah, yeah, probably he.

530
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: Was last year, was on that course helping them out.

531
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, they're running Kade do everything again exactly.

532
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: Just one funny thing this is like it's a really

533
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: quick shot of James Harden looking at the crowd in

534
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: a dead ball situation end of play that some foul

535
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: fans seem to be upset with He gave a little

536
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: like a put his hand up, like he's throwing rice

537
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: at a wedding or putting a garnish or salt on on.

538
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: The end of a dish. Like I don't know what

539
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: he was doing. It's one of these whoa, I need

540
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: to know what he was doing.

541
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: I can't. I couldn't decipher. It's more like, if you

542
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: take this kind of thing, I don't know.

543
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's sort of along the same lines.

544
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: How would you feel if you're a Pistons fan, You've

545
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: paid good money, you're sitting court side, you are in overtime,

546
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: this is a pivotal game. And then Donovan Mitchell, who

547
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're yelling at, trying to distract in the

548
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: corner right in front of you. He finally hits a

549
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: shot and then he turns around and he spider webs

550
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: you right to the face. How would you react? Did

551
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: you see that the one time just turn around with boom?

552
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: One shot too Usually doesn't you know the spider Man

553
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: like a couple of shots, but he went boom, just

554
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: like I would react.

555
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: I think you're stuck against your chair, but.

556
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: He shut them up there, o man, tough, tough, tough, tough,

557
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: anything else? You already brought up the sign, the no

558
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: hard or hard.

559
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: Fo Yeah, pretty funny, good sign. Mike Tarico just in attendance,

560
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: sitting court side Detroit Tiger's hat kind of was white

561
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 4: with the navy d as well.

562
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eminem.

563
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: As Mike Breen said, yes, I'd just like to call

564
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: and fidy.

565
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: Yes you do, Yes you do, Mike. That was good.

566
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

567
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: Tony Brothers apparently is going to run for mayor of Norfolk, Virginia.

568
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: I just thanks for the info campaign starts now he's running.

569
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: Do you think eminem should have came out and busted

570
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: a song like during break in play with three.

571
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Minutes left exactly? He should. He's got a bunch of

572
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: songs gonna play.

573
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: You gotta lose yourself, you know something something mom spaghetti

574
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: all over.

575
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they vomited on their sweaters. Unfortunately, one guy who

576
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: didn't choke pigeon saber they sent out as a pigeon

577
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: the first half, brought out the mop guy popped it in,

578
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: made the basket crowd goes crazy.

579
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: It went in.

580
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, how tall was that guy?

581
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: I was a tall guy. Yeah, that's what I kept going,

582
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: like Jesus Christ, it's a position on NBA teams. Now

583
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: they're like, we need a guy kiss the bunch up there,

584
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: the pigeon guy.

585
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: Pigeon retreet. Yeah, that was, you know, a lot of

586
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: pressure after what just happened with who was it that

587
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: couldn't do I guess it was h Drummond. Yeah, and

588
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: then Kat came to the rescue the other night. But

589
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: so yeah, there was pressure. Everybody knew it. Here we go, Yeah,

590
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: calm cool collected boom one pop out and it went in.

591
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that. And he sat down. He

592
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: was like, you see that with his buddy, You're gonna

593
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: be on Sports Center. You're gonna be on no dunks

594
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: at the all right, that's all I got. Anything else.

595
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: We will find out what happens on Friday night. We

596
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: got two Game six is on Friday. No basketball on tonight,

597
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: none tonight, but no NBA basketball.

598
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll be back tomorrow though. We got to

599
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: break down potentially Gainis trades. Oh boy, got we're gonna

600
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: be talking about it for the next month.

601
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: Question Mark, how long how long will it take? U?

602
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: How long will it take?

603
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 1: Are you gonna are you going to stay the night

604
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: here in the Classic Factory just because because of traffic,

605
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: not just because you have a sleepover together. Sure, I'll

606
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: have a sleep over with you here in the Classic

607
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: right here. Let's do it like video games on the monitors.

608
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: Sure that sounds great.

609
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna go talk to my mayor, not Tony Brothers.

610
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: But uh, what's going on here.

611
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: Josh tivin your mayor. Let's go with the traffic.

612
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why did they start at that particular time?

613
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: Should send out notifications we're starting at this time, so

614
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: you know, otherwise seemed like clear roads to hit hit me.

615
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: Damn.

616
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: Would you vote for Tony Brothers? No?

617
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: God no, I mean I'm going to move to Norfolk

618
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: too and then get a residence and so I could

619
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: vote against them. I think Tony brother is one of

620
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: the worst referees in the league. I think he's horrible.

621
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: It was very highly by the nv p A.

622
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: I was a little shocked by that, if I'm being honest. Yeah,

623
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: in the tier rankings on the tiers, Tony Brothers is

624
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: not a Tier one referee in my opinion, but the

625
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: players obviously tier.

626
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: One mayor well probably not.

627
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: To he's traveling so much, how does he know the local?

628
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: And come on, it's.

629
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: Where he's from, it's where he's born. He likes to

630
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: talk things through. It feels like when he gets on

631
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: that mic, it seems like a long talker. I think

632
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: that's what you need from a mayor just somebody that

633
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: also in an argument. You just end up winning winning

634
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: debates because you just overtalk the opponent.

635
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Bill Kennedy would wipe his ass in a debate. Okay,

636
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: oh my god.

637
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: It.

638
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: Would Is that the same? I don't know.

639
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: I don't do public after a bad dude, Tony Toddler,

640
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: wipe your ass, old man.

641
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill Kennedy would be it. Yeah, that's why we

642
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: debated Taking tomorrow.

643
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: Bill Kennedy would be his like his big brothers, his

644
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: big Tony brothers or whatever.

645
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: We gotta take your At this point, we got to

646
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back, we'll get into

647
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Speaker 1: I am assuming it's there.

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Speaker 4: I wish there was props for like, how many files

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Speaker 4: is Tony going for tonight?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Called thirteen fouls?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, okay, you think Tony Brothers is a

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Speaker 2: I think he's a good He is a good potential mayor.

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Speaker 3: P A survey, I guess you could call it. That

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Speaker 3: came out with the three tiers of referees. That was interesting.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call.

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Speaker 1: Go through every single ref Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean the surprising on tiers, surprising ones. Scott Foster just

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Speaker 3: in the middle, not a bottom of not a number

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Speaker 3: three tier guy. I was surprising.

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Speaker 1: Thought he was a tier two I in the middle

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Speaker 1: as far.

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Speaker 3: As players go, because the players are doing the voting.

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Speaker 3: I thought they would put him directly into tier three.

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Speaker 1: I think they had Tyler Ford though in tier three.

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Speaker 1: He was he was, yes, yes, yes, Where was Gobelo?

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Speaker 4: He was in three to well jo John Goebel Tier three,

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Speaker 4: Jason Goebel tier one. Nice, Yeah, Jason, they're both bad.

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Speaker 4: They're both that's the thing. There's actually only one tier

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Speaker 4: all bad.

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Speaker 1: Hey. I was happy to see my guy, Josh Tivan

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Speaker 1: Tiv tier one, baby, big Tiv. I think he was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was. Yeah. I think he's actually pretty solid.

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Speaker 2: The goat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was good. James Williams was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a shot.

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Speaker 2: One thought we're going to do this tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see where he was. I would probably a

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Speaker 1: tier one guy. Really he is, yeah, yeah, good Fred good, Fred,

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Speaker 1: honest dad. They call him all right, let's get into

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Speaker 1: the updown report. It's all right, as promised. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to the Sixers or dayly to this. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: Daryl Moury is out as president of basketball operations with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, who are opting to keep

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Speaker 1: Nick Nurse as their coach. Bob Myers, hey remember him.

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Speaker 1: He's the president of sports for Harris Blitzer Sports and

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Speaker 1: Entertainment that sort of oversees the Sixers in a bunch

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Speaker 1: of other sports franchises. He's going to lead the search

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Speaker 1: for the new head executive for the seventy six ers,

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Speaker 1: and we'll oversee the franchise's basketball department in the interim

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Speaker 1: up or down task. To start with you here, seventy

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Speaker 1: six Ers firing Darryl Mory as president and keeping Nick

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Speaker 1: Nurse as coach. Are you up or down on this?

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Speaker 3: I'll say I'm up. I think Daryl Moury is paying

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Speaker 3: the price for Joel Embiid. Not liking the Jared McCain trade.

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Speaker 3: He said before the trade deadline, hey, don't duct attacks,

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Speaker 3: just trade somebody. And he went and trade somebody for

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Speaker 3: a first round pick and three second round picks, which

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Speaker 3: he claimed he was selling high on Jared McCain, and

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Speaker 3: at the time we all said, well, that's a good

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Speaker 3: deal for oka see. But at the same time, it's

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Speaker 3: the owner who's ducking the text. He okayed this, and

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Speaker 3: they don't pay text very often in Philadelphia, very infrequent.

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Speaker 3: So I think they're paying. That's that's who he's paying

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Speaker 3: the price for. I don't think it's because of everybody

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Speaker 3: on the roster. I think I think they just want

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Speaker 3: to basically move on from someone been there for six years,

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Speaker 3: made some poor moves to clear or to add depth

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Speaker 3: to the roster over the years, like releases of guys

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Speaker 3: you'd want around beside the Jared McCain like releasing and

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Joe out there releasing a Paul Reid out there

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Speaker 3: release in Julian Champagne is the big one. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just assume he was ducking Texas. He also traded

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Speaker 3: away Eric Gordon for the rights to Justinian jess Up.

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Speaker 3: This trade deadline. I just wanted to say, I know millions. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I literally thought I had Aline, which jess Up is that.

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Speaker 3: But either way, I think he's paying the price for

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Speaker 3: MV being mad overall, drafting pretty well, but I think

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Speaker 3: these money cuts, it's the owners. I don't Darren Mourry

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have traded Jared McCain just to trade Jared McCain

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Speaker 3: for a you know what's going to be the twenty

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Speaker 3: two pick this coming draft, and three second round picks

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Speaker 3: that Harris.

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Speaker 1: It's not helped out by Jared McCain looking great in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs for the defending champs when you have zero bench. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's in this postseason run. What did you think? Are

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Speaker 1: you up burned down on this?

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Speaker 4: I guess I guess I'm up in that it's not

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Speaker 4: surprising that it would happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: He is basically doing the bidding of ownership with regards

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Speaker 4: to trimming tax and that's the big thing with the

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Speaker 4: McCain trade. But there's really three deals. I think the

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Speaker 4: factor into this the McCain trade, for sure is part

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Speaker 4: of it seeing him go from out of the roadation

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Speaker 4: with the Sixers to instantly stepping into the champions rotation

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Speaker 4: and playing well in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't look good.

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Speaker 4: But also he gave him Bead the extension after he

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Speaker 4: had already suffered numerous injuries. But also, what are you

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Speaker 4: supposed to do, Like had played his most games that

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Speaker 4: he had played in the past couple of seasons when

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Speaker 4: he was eligible for an extension, so you got to

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Speaker 4: give it to him. That extension was also like part

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Speaker 4: of bringing in Paul George, which I think is another

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Speaker 4: factor here. George looked really good in the playoffs. He

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Speaker 4: had an okay season. He was at least healthy and

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Speaker 4: playing other than when he got suspended this year. But

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Speaker 4: I think you factor in his contract, the embid extension,

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Speaker 4: the Jared McCain trade, and just the general team building

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Speaker 4: approach that Darryl Morey has. It's like, we got three

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Speaker 4: big time stars and we'll fill everything else in with

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Speaker 4: veteran minimums. Meanwhile, the league is trending towards you gotta

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Speaker 4: have a deep team, and you got to have a

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Speaker 4: young team, and the Sixers don't have either of those,

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Speaker 4: and all these guys that they just let walk away

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Speaker 4: are contributing for playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think most people would agree Daryl Morey

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Speaker 1: is a good drafter. He's been pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 1: MAXI gets at the twenty first pick in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Even Jared McCain obviously dealt them, but got him at

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth pick in twenty four VG Edge Cromb. That's

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Speaker 1: a high pick. Sure, I get that, but third overall,

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Speaker 1: he looks great, looks like a future star. Good selections.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you TK that he's like he gets

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Speaker 1: his stars and then he's like, ah, we'll figure out

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Speaker 1: the rest. And it's this year at least you did

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Speaker 1: not really figure out the rest. It was pretty weak

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Speaker 1: around the fringes and somebody's got to be the fall

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Speaker 1: guy here. I'm a little surprised.

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Speaker 3: And it's old guys. It's old guys that have filled

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Speaker 3: out the fringes too. That's the problem. You're Eric Gordon,

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Speaker 3: You're Andre Drummonds instead of a Julian Champagne or Paul Reed.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, leaving the coaching place

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Speaker 1: here while firing the general manager. You know that doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen all the time. It's sort of like you sort

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Speaker 1: of clean house and then how allowed the new potential

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Speaker 1: basketball president here to make their selection. But I think

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Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know, maybe there's a part of

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Speaker 1: them feels like coach Nurse is a good coach. They

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Speaker 1: think still and he's always unfortunately having had a healthy

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Speaker 1: roster because those three main guys in Maxi Embiid and

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Speaker 1: Paul George are never really healthy at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe that's the thinking there, Not sure, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird because it's kind of like it feels

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Speaker 4: like Nick Nurse is getting credit for coming back from

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Speaker 4: three to one to beat the Celtics, and then Darryl

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Speaker 4: Mory is paying the price for getting.

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Speaker 2: Swept by the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like how you going to fire a guy from

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Speaker 4: coming back and beating your rivals. We're some good coaching,

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Speaker 4: I thought. Yeah, And I mean and also like catching

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Speaker 4: the perfect lightning in a bottle of Embiid was healthy

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Speaker 4: for three games in the playoffs and they want all

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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying, like, is Nurse still there if they

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Speaker 1: losing five to the Celtics in the first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's I don't know, maybe not, probably not.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it's a good point. I think Darryl Mory's

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Speaker 3: got to go work for the league office. Just take

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Speaker 3: a break from front offices, go work for.

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Speaker 1: The he wants to continue to be a GM in

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Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, So I think he'll take off a

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Speaker 1: year probably and assess the landscape.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but you know, he got everybody shooting threes. Did

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Speaker 3: did did?

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Speaker 4: Like It's like Curry is number one with regards to

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Speaker 4: getting everybody shooting threes, and Darryl Mory for me, is

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Speaker 4: number two. Mm because it's like Curry is like, whoa,

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Speaker 4: we can we can shoot from that far that's allowed,

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Speaker 4: and then Daryl Moury is like, yeah, everybody should shoot.

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Speaker 1: From that far And obviously then had hard until Spearhead

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Speaker 1: that both in Houston and then getting him too Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: which started okay, but then that went poorly too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I want to gloss over the whole hearted in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: debacle too, where Harden was literally like, don't trust that guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a liar. He was like a survivor suddenly had

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Speaker 1: spilling the beans on him.

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Speaker 2: That was wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't that long ago?

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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's he's added a lot to the game

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Speaker 3: while shooting threes. I think he can go to the

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Speaker 3: League office and help us out fix the gather, fix

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Speaker 3: the travel, and don't fix all that. I think I

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Speaker 3: think he can do that work in New York and

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Speaker 3: go to all the Broadway plays he wants.

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Speaker 2: It's right down the road, do it.

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Speaker 4: So you're saying, because he's the one who like helped

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Speaker 4: discover all the loopholes, he should close them back up.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, I mean kind of yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: clean it, clean it up, fix everything. It's like, just

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Speaker 2: fix it.

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Speaker 4: It's like hiring a hacker that like breaks into your

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Speaker 4: security system. You're like, tell us where we went wrong, Darryl,

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Speaker 4: tell us where we went wrong?

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Speaker 1: Threes?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? Interesting?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's hear from you guys out there.

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Speaker 1: Thumbs up and thumbs down on Maury getting canned in

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia and them keeping Nick Nurse. That is part of

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Speaker 1: the equation here and where Bob Myers go. Do you

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Speaker 1: think Bob Myers will take over as the actual president

864
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Speaker 1: of Basketball Operations as GM or do you believe that

865
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: he'll stay in this maybe cushier job overseeing all these

866
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: franchises and find his guy. Yeah, do you read on that,

867
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: because some people are like, this was gonna happen, So

868
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: who's Bob Myers took that role? It was a matter

869
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: of time for dyl MORI was gone.

870
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he probably brings somebody in that does all

871
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: the day to day operations, but also overseeing him like

872
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: more of a ceremonial type of position. Guy, you know,

873
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: somebody holds the GM, but he makes the decisions. I

874
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: could definitely see that happening.

875
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who knows.

876
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: I originally when they said Bib Myers was going to

877
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: be taking over the thing, I was like, we're all

878
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: looking for the guy who did this, and it feels

879
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: like he would be the guy. But now apparently Neil

880
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: ol'sha is like really taking the reins for the lead

881
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: of who the next decision maker is going to be.

882
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: And he's already employed by the seventy six ers as well,

883
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 4: so it's like, oh, okay, so it's a different call

884
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: coming in from inside the house because I saw it

885
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: like the other ones. Other candidates are like Anci.

886
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: Salle, Well that's weird.

887
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he did a great job with the

888
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: Hawks this year. M what about why would he move?

889
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Travis Schlank, he's got times to Bob Myers. Yeah,

890
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: this is a relationship league for sure. To maybe watch here.

891
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: We got a new senior vice president of basketball operations

892
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: with the Bulls, Yeah, we do, Stephen Mervis Oh god.

893
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: Oh, Stephen Mervis, I thought you were going to tell

894
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: me about ac law. What they putting together. Oh, yeah,

895
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: they're putting together their front office law.

896
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

897
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 4: Apparently he was instrumental in a bunch of these guys.

898
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: The Thunder drafted Acy Law, the fourth, the fourth, of course,

899
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: yeah they did get the fourth. Yes, the third joins

900
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: on for the Windy City Bulls. But look, if you

901
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: can hire a guy from the Thunder, you should do it.

902
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah's smart, all right? Next one here in the Updown report,

903
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: NBA referees are calling about eleven percent more personal fouls

904
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: per game so far in these playoffs than they did

905
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: during the regular season, a differential that's on pace to

906
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: be one of the largest in NBA history. And in

907
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: the league's eyes, this is to be expected. That's what

908
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Monty McCutchen is basically saying, what's the big deal. It's

909
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: a different game in the playoffs. But this was a note.

910
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: The NBA is seeing an increase in foul calls from

911
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: the regular season to the playoffs for the sixty six

912
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: time in their eighty year history. Here of tracking this,

913
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: I guess so it happens all the time, is what

914
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: they're saying, but this is a bigger jump or percentage

915
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: than maybe normal. This is a bit of an anomaly.

916
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: Anywhere are you up or down TK on the NBA

917
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: defending the eleven percent increase foul calls story?

918
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

919
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

920
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: I don't know how to have a take on this

921
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: eleven percent? Can you feel eleven percent? It feels like

922
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: they let things go more in the playoffs, But you're

923
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: telling me sixty six out of the eighty years the

924
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 4: NBA has existed, they actually.

925
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: Call more foul.

926
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: I know that is weird.

927
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: So I guess I'm sideways on this.

928
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I don't know.

929
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: It feels like we've got eleven percent more complaining in

930
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: postgame press conferences, so maybe it all adds up.

931
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Okay. The better way to ask this is, and you

932
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: sort of were alluding to it, do you think the

933
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: whistle has been overall? Okay, in the playoffs so far?

934
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: How they've officiated these games? I know it changes from

935
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: game to game and officiating crew to officiating crew, but like,

936
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: what's your gut saying you've watched all these games? We've

937
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: watched little all these games. You think they've been officiated.

938
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: You know, how would you grade it? I guess overall, I.

939
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 4: Give it enough.

940
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: What referees are bad. They're always bad.

941
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: Every referee is bad, and you should be mad at

942
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 4: the referees every game, and players and teams and fans

943
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 4: and coaches are mad at the referees every game, and

944
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: they can play and afterwards. But they're also it's also

945
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: an a plus because who else are you going to

946
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: hire that's better?

947
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Right?

948
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: So I don't know. To me, it's like refs happen,

949
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: you know.

950
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: I think they're good when they make the right calls.

951
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what do you think that?

952
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: I said, absolutely fine, absolutely fine, overall for sure, because

953
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: just as bad as always well, I mean I say this,

954
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: they like, it's the playoffs. We want more contact allowed,

955
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: and there has been from my eyes, you know, of

956
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: course when you get into it and backing up the data,

957
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it maybe it's actually the opposite

958
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: is what they're saying. But it like it does feel

959
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: like they let more go and that's good, like more

960
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: more drives, more contact, more bumping, more Joscelyn does feel

961
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: like not like the regular season where there's like whistle

962
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: here whistle there, I'm like, what, let the boys play?

963
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: So what I'm getting out here? So I think overall,

964
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: But then yeah, you see the numbers and you're like, well,

965
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: there's actually more fouls. Fascinating, But maybe that's just because

966
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: every single play, guys are bashing into each other, going

967
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: much harder than they do when they're sometimes, you know,

968
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: lollygagging through the regular season.

969
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Well you said it.

970
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: Of the eighty seasons in NBA history, sixty six of

971
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: them have seen an increase in the postseason. But then,

972
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: after reading that AP report, getting deeper, it says this

973
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: season is seeing a differential of higher than ten percent

974
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: in that regard for only the sixth time in the

975
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: last six years, if you want to get specific about it.

976
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I love numbers, but I don't really

977
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: love numbers about foul calls. I just like watching the games,

978
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: and I would say most of the time, I think

979
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: they've been officiated pretty well. There are going to be

980
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: bad calls. Of course, they're gonna be bad calls. Is

981
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: the most difficult game, So there's bad call. There has

982
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: been mistakes. I don't say I don't think it's worse

983
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: than last year. I do think a lot of the

984
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: flop slash slash selling of calls. Is that's the annoying

985
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: part as a fan, I would say, and I say selling,

986
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: that's just the body torquing and trying to sell something

987
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: that is almost called every single time. If you if

988
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: you yank your head back most of the time, most

989
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: of the time, Hey Chad Holgeren didn't get one when

990
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: he tried to sell one. Most of the time. That's

991
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: the cell and I think that's the difficult part to

992
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: watch as a fan. But otherwise I think the referees

993
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: have been pretty good. And that's why I just said

994
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: when they're good, they're good, and most of the time

995
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: they're good. But you know, they also make mistakes, which

996
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: I think is inevitable. I just think it's it's so difficult.

997
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: McCutcheon said, they look at the playoffs like this aggression

998
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: is good, but rough is not. That's sort of the

999
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: zoom out sort of referees opinion here on the playoffs

1000
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: or how they try and call it. But like, okay, again,

1001
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: we've called We've watched every game, we've talked about every

1002
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: game here on this podcast. How many times have we

1003
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: actually got into like the officiating had a real impact

1004
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: on said game or what were they doing that game?

1005
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: This one? Maybe last night? Of course the trip that

1006
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: just came up. We were a little dumbfounded by maybe

1007
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: some of those Wemby blocks that were probably goaltends, and

1008
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, that that was a while ago. Now

1009
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: is there anything else?

1010
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting the Thunder and Lakers.

1011
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 4: The Lakers had a postgame press conference, just huddled around

1012
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: the referrea.

1013
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, was it. Tony Brothers got into it with

1014
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: Chris Finch. Yeah, okay, there's that.

1015
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Tony Brothers.

1016
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: Late call of Tobias Harris who never gets mad on

1017
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: Evaan Mobile who went to tie the game at the

1018
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: end of this game. I know it's just one single play.

1019
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't like everything get it, but.

1020
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: Never gets mad. He got mad. He didn't, he.

1021
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: Didn't need he shouldn't have reached it was he was lazy.

1022
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: He did the classic. I'm tired and he's going around me,

1023
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna try and pull.

1024
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: So you're saying the refs haven't been that bad, I

1025
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 3: feel like I haven't been that bad at in general,

1026
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 3: it's hard to say.

1027
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: We've jinxed it. Now watch out, now the sticks get

1028
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: even higher.

1029
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: Here, What was the percentage increased last.

1030
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: Year overall from the regular season to no idea.

1031
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: AP didn't come out with that, No I did.

1032
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: I guess the answer. It is not as high as

1033
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: eleven percent. Okay, well, so who knows, somewhere between five

1034
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: and eight percent. I don't know.

1035
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm guessing, but yeah, logically for it to go up

1036
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: sixty six of eighty years makes sense. Players do play

1037
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: more physical, definitely, and they're letting a lot of things go.

1038
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: That's what I do like about this playoffs. Everybody's got

1039
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: a hand on everybody. It's not it's not quite Gary

1040
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: Payton hand as a defender on the offensive player, but

1041
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: there's a lot of that. There's everybody's getting tapped, pushed,

1042
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: gently shoved, aggressively shoved. But everything goes. It feels like

1043
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: which as a basketball fan, I prefer.

1044
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe more. He can fix this, maybe more,

1045
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: he can come in, fix it all, you can fix everything.

1046
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: We should try at least one game one series, let

1047
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: them call your own fouls. Just let give the rest

1048
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: of the day off. See what happens. Could it probably

1049
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: be a gong show, But who cares. Let's see what happens.

1050
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: Interesting. Who would be the best player in the league

1051
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: if you got to call your own files. Luca? I

1052
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: mean he's already really good. Luca would be good.

1053
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: But are you approaching that like you think this person

1054
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: would just they won't They wouldn't care. They would just

1055
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: call foul every single time you breathed on them. Yeah,

1056
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1057
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: I go Luca, I go Luca. Yeah, all right, he

1058
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: would be he would be in the mix for sure.

1059
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: Final one.

1060
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Uh, this is a little fun here, guys. Nike is

1061
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: re Nike is releasing a massive fourteen pair Kobe four

1062
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Trot Draft Day pack on June twenty sixth, honoring the

1063
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary of Kobe's legendary ninety six NBA Draft class.

1064
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: The collection features thirteen distinct wear away colorways representing the

1065
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: teams that passed on Kobe before his thirteenth overall selection,

1066
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: alongside a fourteenth and you see it there sort of

1067
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: gold Lakers edition. The Sneakers will drop as a true

1068
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: blind box release, and that means when you buy this,

1069
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: you have no idea what colorway you're getting till you

1070
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: open box up or down on the Kobe Bryant Draft

1071
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: day pack TK.

1072
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm down, I think, Okay, I would like to know

1073
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: what she was on getting it from the spending however

1074
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: much these are going to be.

1075
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: That's fair, That's the key to me.

1076
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do like the wear away upper on

1077
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: all the white pairs. Okay, so you wear them for

1078
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: a little bit and they turn green if they're the

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00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: Celtics pair. But I don't think they should have made

1080
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: these for every single team that passed on Kobe Bryant.

1081
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: I don't think the Sixers regret taking Allen iverson number one.

1082
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had the seventy six Ers, the Raptors,

1083
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies, the Bucks, the Wolves, the Celtics, the Clippers

1084
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: and the Nets, the Mavericks, the Pacers, the Warriors, the Cavs,

1085
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: and the Hornets. Yeap, who traded it. Obviously it is

1086
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: a little weird.

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00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah so they I did see those photos.

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00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: So the shoe converts to the color of the team

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00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: after a while.

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00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's probably just has like a light white

1091
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 4: paint on the outside that wears a way.

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00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw some shading into a green Boston

1094
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: Celtics smudge looks sorry, Like to me, this is just

1095
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 3: suited to strictly Kobe fans, and they and and Shoe

1096
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 3: fans who will get the blind box, as you said,

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00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: sent to them. They just want to collect all thirteen

1098
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: plus the Kobe yellow.

1099
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: Some some will.

1100
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's who it's dedicated to. So

1101
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm up on it. It's strictly for Kobe fans, it's not.

1102
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: It's not for a Raptor fan.

1103
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 2: Who wants a wrench.

1104
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: We took Marcus Camby.

1105
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Goods great trade for Charles Oakley.

1106
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 3: I will say the fact that there's a twenty four

1107
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: on the back of each one, why not an eight?

1108
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: It's true, it was.

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00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of kind of confused, but I

1110
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: guess maybe their whole branding is all twenty four now,

1111
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 3: so I can't go back.

1112
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's unusual.

1113
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm ultimately down on this too. Like you

1114
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: were saying, trade, this blind box thing, this phenomenon, I mean,

1115
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: this is everywhere now, like even like I mean, you

1116
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: guys have kids, I'm sure you've seen it. There's like

1117
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: there's like toys that you now buy and it's like

1118
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're getting.

1119
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Smithy, I mean, and it's so.

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00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: Smart because they're like said, kid wants this, but then

1121
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: you buy mystery boxes. Oh it's not that one. That

1122
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: means I got to buy another one or whatever or

1123
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: collect them all type thing like.

1124
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 3: Hey, but you like going for a pack of baseball cards.

1125
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what I get basketball cards?

1126
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what I'm absolutely but there is

1127
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: a gambling almost element to it, you know what I mean?

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00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's not positive for the parent, but uh,

1129
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: the child.

1130
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: But I think you're right. It's just Kobe fans are yes,

1131
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: I guess collect them all and so they'll sell fourteen

1132
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: pairs of shoes or boxes instead of even more. One

1133
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: of the odds you're going to hit every team, you know,

1134
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: once every time? Very low.

1135
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to have an exchange.

1136
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, I got I already got a pair

1137
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: of yea vitally Potampa.

1138
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: Who wants to switch me for a Smoky Walker?

1139
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: Good bolts man?

1140
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: This guy I.

1141
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: Had the Slam magazine.

1142
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Battali's on the Pistons bench, right is he?

1143
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1144
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: I think so.

1145
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the up down report. I hope you're playing

1146
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: along with your thumbs up or down, little bye, a

1147
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: little bye of the night. Simple sponsorship today Teddy Hart

1148
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: of the Heart Foundation.

1149
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Uh, not really, but.

1150
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: His name is Teddy Hart, so I assume he's in it. Uh,

1151
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: he's part of the YouTube stream team. So he came

1152
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: through with the sponsorship.

1153
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: Back to back hits from are you watching? Teddy? Let

1154
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: us know?

1155
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Teddy let us know. I mean I hope you're here.

1156
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: One boy goes to Max Druce. I'm giving it to

1157
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: Streus Like Kate had a big game, Harden had a

1158
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: big game, but Max drews Man twenty points off the

1159
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: bench in a pivotal game five win. He shot an

1160
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: efficient six of eight from the field, all of them

1161
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: from deep, recorded eight rebounds. He had some timely offensive

1162
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: boards one assist, one steel, one block in thirty six

1163
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: turnover free minutes. This guy has played in a lot

1164
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: of playoff games.

1165
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: He really has.

1166
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: It's like a shocking amount and he uh got some

1167
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: love from Charles Barkley last night on Inside, who was

1168
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: just smitten with Max Struce's look in his eyes.

1169
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 2: Tell me about it, because I actually have not seen.

1170
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: All your cast. You are going to love this man.

1171
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: You talk about bonds more than anybody.

1172
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: Oh about the bod and Ice.

1173
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: You like guys too, says I'm thinking what everybody's thinking.

1174
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: Max Struce is a pretty man. I wouldn't want to

1175
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 4: look him in the eyes.

1176
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, get lost in those eyes.

1177
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: Basically think what everybody say.

1178
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 4: I know.

1179
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: So he didn't. He didn't talk about his but no,

1180
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: not really.

1181
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: It was more No. They literally asked him what do

1182
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: you like about him there? Like is it the hair

1183
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: or whatever? And then he yeah, he was like, he says,

1184
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: his face, that's what he says at one point, and

1185
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: then he gets into the eyes and of course, of

1186
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: course Shaq and Kenny and even Er and you're like,

1187
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, prodding Chuck and like, come on, let's get more.

1188
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: It's very very funny.

1189
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: I clip that's great face he fears to look into

1190
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: his eyes.

1191
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: That's great, extrews, well, boy of the Night, charl Tarkley

1192
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: will be happy with that selection, and hopefully Teddy Hart

1193
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: is as well. All Right, that's it for us today.

1194
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: If you're a Survivor fan, come join us at one

1195
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: pm Eastern over at no Bus recapping the pen ultimate

1196
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: episode of Survivor fifty. I'm not gonna spoil anything here

1197
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: because some people are watching No Dunks and maybe haven't

1198
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: watched Survivor from last night yet. But man, whoa I

1199
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: will say double boot elimination, so loss to talk about.

1200
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: And as we set up for the finale next week,

1201
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: we'll make some predictions down to the final five.

1202
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: Fan Jonathan, you said, I thought Wu came back to

1203
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: the show.

1204
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: No, Hey, you see our We had him on No

1205
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: Bus once upon a time. Rome's having twins. Congratulations to Rome.

1206
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: Congratulations Yeah, girl dad and boy Daddy said, yeah, one.

1207
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: Of each, one of each, collect them all, collect them all.

1208
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: That's the original blind box. Yeah, you're right a pregnant woman,

1209
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: So congrats and Robe.

1210
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, talking Survivor with Nora here in the Classic Factory

1211
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern. Uh. That link is in the

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00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: show notes, So join us or just subscribe. Help us

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Speaker 1: all out at nobus. So no NBA games on tonight,

1214
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: but we are going to be here tomorrow for a

1215
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: little drop podcast fun. We'll do rapid fire. Well you

1216
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: got you're gonna come with some honest trade.

1217
00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: We have to.

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, TK, you're taking a day though, you got there,

1219
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: you got some You're driving his chattanoogas that what you're doing.

1220
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: That's right. I'll be in the nuge all right with

1221
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: my dad.

1222
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: All right, I watch some Game sixes together, gather around kids.

1223
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 4: Nice dad and son watching hoops together. Okay, that's better

1224
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: than this.

1225
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: Uh, but we'll be here tomorrow, like I said with

1226
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: the Drop podcast, and then the plan is probably have

1227
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: a podcast on Saturday too to talk about some of

1228
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: those Game sixes. So obviously subscribe to No Dunks, hit

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Speaker 1: the like button and podcast listers five star ratings and reviews.

1230
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: Till then, Clipper bros.

1231
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1232
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us.

1233
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Speaker 3: And remember, construction workers are doing work to help your life.

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Speaker 2: They are.

1235
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: You sound like Tony Brothers running for.

1236
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: Sure, running for a seat. I sound like Tony Brothers,

1237
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: sound like Tony Robbins. I sound like uh the does

1238
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: are on mom Donnie talking about potholes. Listen, stuff needs

1239
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: to be done out there.

1240
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: Forra structure is important, right right, just let you know

1241
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: in advance, so help the update the app. It's like

1242
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: you always checking to see who's questionable.

1243
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have been, and I'm thankful for the

1244
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: NBA uploading every fifteen minutes transparency.

1245
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Right, right, but you'd like to see that in construction

1246
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: roadwork every fifty yeah.

1247
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, help Tony Brothers.

1248
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: That's his main platform.

1249
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: You will be updated on construction workers like NBA fans

1250
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 4: are updated on injury m.

1251
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's somebody's doing that, the and the NBA official site.

1252
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: That's their job.

1253
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tony Brothers could fill in those potholes with those eyebrows,

1254
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: take them off, PLoP them in there.

1255
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: Come on.

1256
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 4: Ta see Tony Brothers without eyebrows. Somebody just please photo

1257
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: shop it. No browse, Tony, come on, raise the