Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 2: Doesn't like to mix friend groups. No, that's so true.
Speaker 3: From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's Around the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm Dan hansis.
Speaker 3: Heroes here, Greg Rosehal and Colleen Wolfe in the sizzler chair.
Speaker 1: What's up, gay ease?
Speaker 2: See?
Speaker 4: I love to mix friends group all the time. Like
Speaker 4: I love having different friends meet each other from different
Speaker 4: parts of my life.
Speaker 1: But do they do they like it?
Speaker 4: And you know what, I've realized over the past like
Speaker 4: two years that maybe I need to stop doing that.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's not great.
Speaker 3: Yeah I used to do it all the time, but
Speaker 3: what I realized was that that made things better for me.
Speaker 3: But for those people, especially people that are like me,
Speaker 3: that are a little less a little more introverted around
Speaker 3: people you don't know as well, it just made things
Speaker 3: a little bit more uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: That's but that everyone's different.
Speaker 2: Now. Dan had a very specific list of like it's
Speaker 2: like like this guy cannot mix with this broad it
Speaker 2: never happened. It's very tough to get the invite back
Speaker 2: to the hands of Christmas Party.
Speaker 4: I should let everyone know that Dan just chugged a
Speaker 4: five hour Energy Extra Strength before this show.
Speaker 2: Right as the song was playing essentially, which is a
Speaker 2: little it just felt dark for it was it was.
Speaker 1: Half I will say it was half.
Speaker 3: I used the first half maybe last season, and that
Speaker 3: was just sitting there and I said, oh, that's even worse.
Speaker 5: It lasted you all season.
Speaker 3: Just wow, do you think that expires? That's like nuclear
Speaker 3: like sludge basically.
Speaker 5: It expires in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, cover correct, Yeah, it's you know, I needed it.
Speaker 3: It's been It was a Tuesday was tough. I gotta
Speaker 3: say Tuesday was tough. I of course Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 3: all that. Check out the Monday Podcast if you're not
Speaker 3: aware what happened on Monday night football. I was doing
Speaker 3: some like internal accounting on my way here is like
Speaker 3: what was my Tuesday?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: It was like I had a vague recollection that yesterday
Speaker 3: was terrible. Things kind of set in a little bit.
Speaker 3: I slept in and then I was falling asleep repeatedly
Speaker 3: during the day. And part of that was I stayed
Speaker 3: up really late Monday night reading stuff, but also didn't
Speaker 3: want to go to sleep because I knew when I
Speaker 3: woke up in the morning and not feeling after really
Speaker 3: bad news the day before. When you're gonna realize it
Speaker 3: when you open your eyes that it happened. It's like
Speaker 3: it hits again. Knew it was coming, didn't work out,
Speaker 3: made unhealthy eating choices. I contributed very little to a
Speaker 3: previously scheduled planning meeting we had.
Speaker 2: I shot but cut it short.
Speaker 3: I would say, actually, I shot down a neighbor's request
Speaker 3: to come over for a swim in the pool on
Speaker 3: a hot day.
Speaker 2: Just said no, not today, neighbor.
Speaker 3: I coached my son's fall ball baseball team, but I
Speaker 3: was like in full bad Santa mode to the kids
Speaker 3: the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's like, mean, mean, new coach. I didn't even know me.
Speaker 1: It was the first practice.
Speaker 2: That's not how you do an infield shift. Pricky this
Speaker 2: with the bottle of Tito's.
Speaker 3: And I didn't bathe until about ten pm.
Speaker 5: Oh my gods, that's a tough tuesday for Tugboat.
Speaker 3: But then I woke up this morning and and you know,
Speaker 3: you start to hit that level of acceptance of situation
Speaker 3: and where things stand.
Speaker 1: And That's where I'm at now. Now.
Speaker 3: Is it is it difficult to do like a football
Speaker 3: podcast to work in football? Something like that happens and
Speaker 3: it feels so personal when that injury occurs. Yes, but
Speaker 3: that's what we do. Mark is so upset about Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers come through the show today.
Speaker 2: Well, you also just might be feeling under the weather,
Speaker 2: which is also taking Mark out, because I too was falling,
Speaker 2: feeling like I was falling asleep a little bit in the.
Speaker 1: Day long Monday. But oh, that was depression, I greg.
Speaker 3: That's another symptom of depression, which I think I've lapsed
Speaker 3: into one, but I think I've come out. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's how depression works or if I was
Speaker 3: just depressed.
Speaker 1: Those are two different things. But sleep is a symptom
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: An at POD, I can tell you all about it, right,
Speaker 2: I think, knowing though you were gonna see Connie and
Speaker 2: myself today and just make magic.
Speaker 5: I'm just happy to have Hard Knocks a little twin.
Speaker 1: We did have Hard Knocks, and that was special.
Speaker 5: No one can ever take that away from us.
Speaker 3: No, and they could take away Aaron Rodgers us being
Speaker 3: the Jets fans, but they can't take away that those
Speaker 3: fun five weeks. I did think about it, Colleen, we
Speaker 3: because we basically it was like Aaron Rodgers hype season
Speaker 3: that entire hard knocks. That's what we talked about, how
Speaker 3: important he was and how everything was built around him.
Speaker 3: Which keep in mind, anybody that's trying to, you know,
Speaker 3: get excited about the Jets is still being a contender.
Speaker 3: Like this team was built for Aaron Rodgers to lead it,
Speaker 3: and now they have to pivot on the fly.
Speaker 1: We'll get to sol on a second.
Speaker 3: But remember in the first episode when and this is
Speaker 3: what I kept thinking about, and I can't even listen
Speaker 3: to it again. I was gonna say, we'll call for it,
Speaker 3: but I just can't hear it again. Jeff Olbrick, the
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. In one of the early practices, Rogers throws
Speaker 3: across the hashes and hits. I think it's maybe Garrett
Speaker 3: Wilson in the back corner, maybe a lizard with a
Speaker 3: throw that maybe to other people on Earth can make.
Speaker 3: And Oldbrick says to the team and the defense and
Speaker 3: meeting like that's our guy, that's our quarterback, and the
Speaker 3: whole meeting room was just like yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 3: he was speaking for Jets fans too, like that's our quarterback.
Speaker 3: So that is that is the world that we now exist,
Speaker 3: and that that guy's.
Speaker 1: Gone, and but time heals all ones. I'm getting back.
Speaker 3: I'm getting my juice back already and feeling like I
Speaker 3: could be watching a fun, plucky team this season.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, one of the.
Speaker 4: Other listening to the Monday recap pod with you guys,
Speaker 4: when you talked about the comeback win for the Jets
Speaker 4: and you holding up like the kids and everyone embracing that,
Speaker 4: that kind of gave me the feels a little bit
Speaker 4: like I was on that roller coaster ride with you,
Speaker 4: not as you know, as you were, but I just
Speaker 4: I could feel it a bit.
Speaker 2: You got to take a nod from your captain, Robert Sally.
Speaker 2: He's back in there the next morning talking up. He
Speaker 2: is great leadership.
Speaker 1: And I want to thank everyone.
Speaker 3: I got like a ton of whether it was listeners
Speaker 3: or just friends or people that I haven't even heard
Speaker 3: from in a while that just know how much I
Speaker 3: love the Jets. A lot of texts and and UH
Speaker 3: and dms and emails and.
Speaker 1: It was all very nice because people people get it.
Speaker 3: And uh and yes, uh now we move forward uh
Speaker 3: as as as.
Speaker 2: We must, as we must, life goes on and uh.
Speaker 3: Coming up on today's show by the way I like
Speaker 3: this one. Greg, you threw it out there. I was
Speaker 3: basically comatose, not really listening to you, but in that
Speaker 3: planning meeting yesterday and maybe a text thread that I
Speaker 3: looked at with one eye in between depression sleeves. You mentioned,
Speaker 3: what what's our segment today?
Speaker 2: Only bad questions? I thought it was no dumb question,
Speaker 2: no dumb question. I don't even remember dumb questions.
Speaker 5: I was told only dumb quest only dumb.
Speaker 2: Question, only dumb question. No, that was it, and that
Speaker 2: was are they dumb questions necessarily? Well, we'll find out,
Speaker 2: like that's what they say, there are no dumb questions.
Speaker 2: But in this segment, we're going to try to come
Speaker 2: up with some dumb questions. And you see, that's that's
Speaker 2: my love language. I didn't send you a nice text,
Speaker 2: which actually I didn't send you a nice text. Now
Speaker 2: I feel bad about it. Oh, thank you. I didn't
Speaker 2: send you like I feel bad of But you know,
Speaker 2: I knew this was this wasn't going to be a
Speaker 2: dan day. I'll come up with the sec that that
Speaker 2: was very But that's love language. That's good, that's sweet.
Speaker 3: Like the text, I wasn't waiting for you like when
Speaker 3: is Greg and the send like, hey, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 1: No, I don't need that, right, That's what he's.
Speaker 4: An active service kind of guy. That's the that's the
Speaker 4: love language.
Speaker 1: Your therapist is really making sides of Suzanne.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I could go on and all.
Speaker 3: Speaking of therapists, Packers fans need one after a bunch
Speaker 3: of them rolled into a bar in Milwaukee thinking, according
Speaker 3: to this promotion, hey Jets lose, you win, bar handles
Speaker 3: the tab.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news. We're just gonna keep going.
Speaker 6: Another condition is Aaron Rodgers must start the game, but
Speaker 6: the rules say nothing about him having to finish it.
Speaker 6: So there's a loud roar when Rogers leaves the game
Speaker 6: hurt in the first par Fans say, it's nothing personal.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not necessarily opposed to Rogers, but tonight
Speaker 7: I'm thinking with my wallet instead.
Speaker 3: Nice good human stuff, good human stuff from Packers fans.
Speaker 3: Let's get the PostScript on that little story from the tavern.
Speaker 2: And the mood has changed considerably.
Speaker 7: That is because the Jets just won the game on
Speaker 7: a long touchdown in overtime.
Speaker 2: You could take a look.
Speaker 7: This is the reaction to the bar where people are
Speaker 7: realizing the bar tabs they've been racking up all night thinking,
Speaker 7: certainly with Rogers hurt, it is setting in they were gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to go to the bar and pay that tab.
Speaker 2: Pay up, so good, pay up. Oh, you got to
Speaker 2: watch the YouTube of this one, just so you can
Speaker 2: see the look on the face of the reporter.
Speaker 3: It was just what about the guy in the background
Speaker 3: holding his hands over the face like he just witnessed.
Speaker 5: Not good I missed local news.
Speaker 3: Bad job by this pack, CBS fifty eight news in
Speaker 3: Milwaukee with the credit there, Good job by them, all right.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Robert Sala, let's check in with him. Of course,
Speaker 3: the Jets were seen by many as a potential Super
Speaker 3: Bowl team, and now most people, including the Desert Greggy,
Speaker 3: mostly writing them off as a team that can't get
Speaker 3: it done with the Zach Wilson instead of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Here's what Saul had to say on Tuesday.
Speaker 8: I don't know why people are trying to put an
Speaker 8: obituary under our team name. You know, it's Aaron is
Speaker 8: an unbelievable piece to this whole thing, and we love them,
Speaker 8: but I think there's fifty two other guys in the
Speaker 8: locker room, plus the sixteen practice squad guys that believe
Speaker 8: that we can do hell of a lot of good
Speaker 8: things here. And we're excited about our group. We've worked
Speaker 8: hard over the last couple of years, players, coaches, Scouts,
Speaker 8: GM building a pretty cool organization. And so there's still
Speaker 8: a lot of faith in the locker room on the
Speaker 8: things that we can still accomplish this here. So it's
Speaker 8: while the outside world can go ahead and write whatever
Speaker 8: story they want to write, there's still the true story
Speaker 8: being written in this building.
Speaker 3: So Rob's and I could tell Rob's Tuesday was about
Speaker 3: the same as mine. Yeah, but he had to go
Speaker 3: up in front of the media. And then the other
Speaker 3: thing that you saw out there, which is almost as
Speaker 3: like depressing and frustrating, was all the articles and that's
Speaker 3: part of the machine.
Speaker 1: And I get it. Now, what are the jets going
Speaker 1: to do? Who are they going to go get?
Speaker 3: And I'm seeing like leads with Carson wentz In and
Speaker 3: all that, and all I'm thinking myself is you got
Speaker 3: to pay attention. They'll get somebody, maybe a veteran in
Speaker 3: the building, and they'll even turn to that guy maybe
Speaker 3: after say the bye. But right now, like the season
Speaker 3: is about Zach Wilson. That's the guy that was in camp.
Speaker 3: That's the guy that knows the offense. That's the guy
Speaker 3: that was QB two. He's the dude. And here's what
Speaker 3: Bob had to say about that. I call him bob'sou, but.
Speaker 8: I do want to make it very clear to Zach's
Speaker 8: oar quarterback. We've got a lot of faith in Zach.
Speaker 8: We're really excited about his opportunity. But we're rolling with
Speaker 8: Zach and the excited for this, excited for him, and
Speaker 8: like I said, this opportunity that he's going to get.
Speaker 2: If they were going to bring in someone that could
Speaker 2: actually take Zach Wilson's job, I don't think it would
Speaker 2: be right away. I think it would be maybe the
Speaker 2: bye week or closer. When is the BUI it's not
Speaker 2: till week six seven. It also might depend like they
Speaker 2: would have to thread a needle of winning enough games.
Speaker 2: But Zach Wilson is clearly struggling that they start to
Speaker 2: think about this, like there are just so many contingencies
Speaker 2: that let's say a guy like like a Jameis Winston,
Speaker 2: who I think could be a like that wouldn't be
Speaker 2: right now, Anyways, he does have to play the Cowboys
Speaker 2: in the Patriots next, which is pretty brutal, and that
Speaker 2: was one of the reasons you could understand why Zach
Speaker 2: Wilson struggled against the Bills for the most part, you know,
Speaker 2: being thrown into that situation. I think it's a good defense.
Speaker 2: Then he has to play two of what I think
Speaker 2: are going to be the five of the best defense
Speaker 2: in the league. So it is a brutal slate for
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson to start with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so many primetime games still on the slate,
Speaker 4: and then you have the whole natural grass and turf
Speaker 4: debate going on, as.
Speaker 3: Union came out and said, you know, we need to
Speaker 3: get rid of these these astra turf injuries, and it's
Speaker 3: like I hear it. And MetLife Stadium has certainly been
Speaker 3: in the crosshairs in the past, is having a bad turf,
Speaker 3: even though this was a new one that they installed
Speaker 3: for this season.
Speaker 1: I just don't even know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes people get so upset and you want to be
Speaker 3: mad at something, but the Jets and Giants shaff facility.
Speaker 3: So you tell me how any natural grass surface. And
Speaker 3: I'm no landscaper, but I was known as Danny doublecut and.
Speaker 5: You do a lot of lawnwork.
Speaker 1: Do a lot of lawn work.
Speaker 3: I enjoy it. It's not going to hold up unless
Speaker 3: you have your own stadium and you have a little break.
Speaker 3: That's too much at least in that stadium. And otherwise, yeah,
Speaker 3: I understand it. I get it. Like they say, grass
Speaker 3: is better, but also those fields get ripped up to and.
Speaker 1: Become very difficult to play on.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 4: But even David Baktiari came out and made the point
Speaker 4: that for the World Cup that's coming here in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six, it was an absolute deal breaker. They needed
Speaker 4: natural grass, and so so Fi and Dallas like they
Speaker 4: will be bringing in natural grass.
Speaker 2: So Mett Life right isn't World Cup, but they could
Speaker 2: because they are.
Speaker 3: There's exit games at met Life, whereas we're talking about
Speaker 3: the grind of a full football seam to same thing
Speaker 3: with so Fi. They can never have grass because they
Speaker 3: got that building as games like seventeen weeks in a row.
Speaker 5: Basically, I mean, I don't know, I just know there's altos.
Speaker 2: Get a landscape on the virus have been against it
Speaker 2: very much, saying that the numbers that don't say and
Speaker 2: I thought Sala the way he addressed it was pretty
Speaker 2: telling because he said he didn't think that injury was
Speaker 2: affected by it because it wasn't a non contact injury.
Speaker 2: But I think we would all just prefer grass. So
Speaker 2: he was trying to not bother his boss, but also
Speaker 2: speak for the players.
Speaker 4: If we do have a landscaper on I just would
Speaker 4: love to know if you can still get turf toe
Speaker 4: on natural grass.
Speaker 1: Good question.
Speaker 3: That's what about four seasons escaping in Philadelphia?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you don't even know I have merch.
Speaker 5: I love those guys.
Speaker 3: And PostScript for me on this before we move out
Speaker 3: of jets Land, two things need to happen for the
Speaker 3: Jets to be a playoff team this year and be
Speaker 3: a fun team to watch. The defense needs to continue
Speaker 3: to be special, which I think is possible, but they
Speaker 3: also to do something they did Monday night that they
Speaker 3: didn't do last year, which is continue to turn the
Speaker 3: ball over and give their offense short fields. So it's
Speaker 3: got to not just be a great defense, but a
Speaker 3: opportunistic take the ball away d and then special teams
Speaker 3: also has to make plays like we saw in that
Speaker 3: game and Ken Hackett, Ken Rogers who's a coach now
Speaker 3: on this team? Can they just get Zach Wilson to average?
Speaker 3: I have my doubts right now, but that is the goal.
Speaker 3: Can they get him to average like Mark Sanchez level
Speaker 3: twenty ten bridge?
Speaker 1: Can they?
Speaker 2: That is the goal. That's a reasonable five hour go.
Speaker 1: I just had a tremor in my hands. Everything's fine,
Speaker 1: by the way, my Nathaniel Hackett. Thanks, it's nice to
Speaker 1: see you out here.
Speaker 2: You noted. Yeah, the Desert downgraded their Super Bowl odds.
Speaker 2: I went to go check it. There plus sixty five
Speaker 2: hundred now to win the Super Bowl, and they would
Speaker 2: have been much higher before, which is like eighteenth in
Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't think it's too disrespectful. I mean,
Speaker 2: they have their shorter odds than Mac Jones and the
Speaker 2: Patriots still so and the old tight Titans returning to
Speaker 2: the playoffs a handful of times.
Speaker 1: I watched those games this week, and that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Way out of the giant. Hey, Patriots out gained the
Speaker 2: Eagles by one fifty performance. Okay, okay, I'm just saying
Speaker 2: they haven't totally buried the Jets. They put them in
Speaker 2: the middle, all right, It sounds about.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 3: We have a bunch of Wednesdays are new and by
Speaker 3: the way, Colleen, Yeah, we got Colleen Steam music at
Speaker 3: Collien's first Wednesday show.
Speaker 2: Wait, what happened to the original? We have to go
Speaker 2: back to the original at some point.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to both.
Speaker 2: Let's find for some of that find for today.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Try not to talk over Colleen Steam.
Speaker 5: Colleen talk over Colleens music.
Speaker 2: I thought it was much longer.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: That's good, you know what. That's great because it's just
Speaker 4: like a quick sort of sound drop. We don't have
Speaker 4: to always sit through the song.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, so we have four games to get to.
Speaker 3: Let's save that though. Let's let's bank that for the
Speaker 3: end of the show. We're going to we have a
Speaker 3: Thursday night game to talk about, Sunday night football and
Speaker 3: two Monday night games.
Speaker 1: I hate it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I can work on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand, listen, I understand that we work for
Speaker 3: a corporate machine and we have mels to feed and
Speaker 3: networks that want their live football. Just don't think it's
Speaker 3: as good as a product when there's two games on
Speaker 3: Monday too much.
Speaker 2: I just would be in favor of it if they
Speaker 2: separated them out where they're not at the same time,
Speaker 2: just started earlier. People still watch it on ESPN if
Speaker 2: you started at six pm Eastern three pm Pacific and
Speaker 2: then just go back to back or something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't like that they're on at the same time.
Speaker 2: But if you didn't like it this week, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get next week. That's a first week, two and three
Speaker 2: they're doing it. I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: I love my company, hate the decision making on this one.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's get to our sag that Greg
Speaker 3: cooked up, and that was you know, maybe technically alive
Speaker 3: during the phone call. We were on the zoom call,
Speaker 3: so I vaguely remember the pitch Greg, which was after
Speaker 3: watching week one. Yeah, we are going to ask, on
Speaker 3: the surface, at least dumb questions that have an obvious
Speaker 3: answer or.
Speaker 1: Like as an obvious I'm.
Speaker 2: Curious what years are going to be now, because yeah,
Speaker 2: it's only dumb questions. I mean, people say there are
Speaker 2: no dumb questions. We're going to try to prove that
Speaker 2: wrong and ask some dumb questions.
Speaker 3: So I guess the premise here it's an obvious no
Speaker 3: is going to be the answer unless the person asking question.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit more. You know, there's some
Speaker 1: there's a little something to it.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. The five hour energy shot
Speaker 2: actually only lasted five minutes. Just it just ended. We
Speaker 2: go you want me to go first?
Speaker 1: Oh ahead? You started off?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, Because when I ask a dumb when I
Speaker 2: think of a dumb question, it's often one that it's
Speaker 2: just been stuck with me and I've and it's been
Speaker 2: proven to be a dumb question. But now it's like
Speaker 2: I've got a little window into like, hey, maybe that
Speaker 2: question wasn't so dumb before. After the Bengals Week one
Speaker 2: performance six first downs, six six first downs by an
Speaker 2: NFL team might be the worst offensive performance that is
Speaker 2: done by any team all year, was already accomplished. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of three announced in that game.
Speaker 2: Are we sure that Zach Taylor is gonna be the
Speaker 2: man to keep this keep adjusting to what defenses throw
Speaker 2: at him in a tough AFC North what's only dumb questions?
Speaker 2: That's right now? Dumb question? I mean, this guy's performed
Speaker 2: so well, they've they've done it back to back years.
Speaker 3: Out and all this stuff. So in this case, it's
Speaker 3: not an easy note. It's an easy yes, yes, because
Speaker 3: they started slow. They went to the Super Bowl two
Speaker 3: years ago. Okay, I understand that was a little bit
Speaker 3: of a special year. A lot of things went their way.
Speaker 4: Usually that happens when teams go to the superl right,
Speaker 4: but that year, especially if you go back and watch
Speaker 4: some of those games, that was a really special Cinderella
Speaker 4: rup for those Bengals.
Speaker 3: But they the quarterback clicked and Jamar Chase took the
Speaker 3: world by storm and away we go. Last year, similarly,
Speaker 3: after the quarterback Joe Burrow had an issue appendectomy and
Speaker 3: and got back for Week one, they looked like dog
Speaker 3: poop against the Steelers in Week one.
Speaker 1: You went through September and it was just like nothing's
Speaker 1: clicked yet.
Speaker 2: Then check out the next.
Speaker 3: Ten weeks about leading into that terrible demor Hamlin game.
Speaker 3: They were the best team in football and just killing people.
Speaker 3: And that was Greg the quarterback getting healthy, the coaching
Speaker 3: staff making adjustments, the rosterka being very good. So yes,
Speaker 3: I am. I look at it as like the Bengals
Speaker 3: have an issue with the Browns. So before I start
Speaker 3: to panic in now camp, fingers at the head coach.
Speaker 3: Let's let this thing breathe a little.
Speaker 4: It's Week one, which Week one is always bloky division games.
Speaker 4: You never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, especially in that matchup, you kind of do the Browns.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm that's true.
Speaker 4: But in general, Week one is sort of the defenses
Speaker 4: are always ahead of the offenses because of the way
Speaker 4: that the preseason kind of everyone approaches the preseason. So
Speaker 4: I felt like the defenses this year in Week one
Speaker 4: delivered over offenses in general. But think about some of
Speaker 4: the teams that have had the most success, like the Patriots,
Speaker 4: they always started slow right when they would have their runs,
Speaker 4: and the Bengals have exactly and Joe Burrow, he's coming
Speaker 4: back from the calf injury. Still, the conditions were bad outside,
Speaker 4: the weather was terrible. These guys didn't get any time
Speaker 4: together in the preseason, so just.
Speaker 2: Give it a beat, okay, And they started. I actually
Speaker 2: went back and checked this. They were dead last and
Speaker 2: offensive DVOA through two weeks a year ago. Really, so
Speaker 2: they Joe Burrow missed all the preseason a year ago,
Speaker 2: and so I get all that. But my case of why,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not. The dumbest question ever is just this
Speaker 2: is year three of all this together. Te Higgins wants
Speaker 2: a new contract. Jamar Chase is there. The offensive line,
Speaker 2: especially on the interior, really struggled there and maybe it
Speaker 2: was just a week one thing. I just think this
Speaker 2: offense needs to be special. They're built at this point
Speaker 2: to be a top three offense for the whole season.
Speaker 2: That's their recipe. I think the defense will be fine,
Speaker 2: but they need to be like elite, elite elite, and
Speaker 2: they've put a lot of tape out there the last
Speaker 2: couple of years, and I'm just saying they're in a
Speaker 2: tough division. A lot of teams have going to be
Speaker 2: adjusting to them. Is Zach Taylor the guy to bring
Speaker 2: them through whatever troubles they have this year and come
Speaker 2: up with all the answers to make them illegally? Because
Speaker 2: to me, if they're the ninth best offense in the
Speaker 2: league this year, that's not gonna be good enough.
Speaker 5: So you don't think that he's the guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just asking a dumb question.
Speaker 1: Well, you've never really been in on Zach Taylor in general.
Speaker 1: Let's face it.
Speaker 3: I think you've had doubts, and that's okay, but sometimes
Speaker 3: not the first time you've said sometimes it's players, not plays.
Speaker 5: Well, I have I have a question, a dumb question.
Speaker 4: The kind of dovetails nicely after that because talking about
Speaker 4: els dumb right exactly, Normally my dumb questions I just
Speaker 4: go straight to Google. So my Google search is just
Speaker 4: like a nightmare. But are we really thinking the preseason approach?
Speaker 4: Are teams actually going to change what they do in
Speaker 4: the preseason run because we just talked about it with
Speaker 4: the Bengals, and not that Joe Burrow could have been
Speaker 4: involved with the calf, but the Eagles, for instance, who
Speaker 4: came out and played so flat against the Patriots. Even
Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni after the game said that he wrote in
Speaker 4: his little notebook that he's going to play the starters
Speaker 4: more in the preseason next year. But that is the
Speaker 4: thing that we hear all the time. Did it really
Speaker 4: make a difference? Does it make a difference?
Speaker 3: Burrow said as much, and he lamented after the game, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I wish I was with the guys in
Speaker 3: the weeks leading up to the season, but the injury
Speaker 3: kept him off the field. So yeah, whether they I
Speaker 3: don't know what you think playing more in the preseason,
Speaker 3: I say no, But I see why they think that
Speaker 3: when Week one doesn't go their way.
Speaker 2: Right, because you could look at the two teams that
Speaker 2: I associated with playing a lot in the preseason, the
Speaker 2: Chiefefs and the Steelers didn't have great week ones. I mean,
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and the Steelers scored a touchdown on every
Speaker 2: possession they played in the preseason. I do think there
Speaker 2: is something to play in football before having to play
Speaker 2: that much football. And I get the injury concerns, like
Speaker 2: no one seems that concern that half the league's out
Speaker 2: for a month with a hamstring injury after Week one.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that there would have been prevented by
Speaker 2: playing in the preseason or not. Just that, like lots
Speaker 2: of injuries happen in practice too, and it's football and
Speaker 2: you can't totally.
Speaker 4: And the Rams they never play starters in the preseason, right, they.
Speaker 2: Look good and they look good. So I do wonder.
Speaker 2: I feel like that toothpaste is not going back into
Speaker 2: the tube, that preseason is always now gonna be pretty useless,
Speaker 2: and it's and it's pretty much continued to go in
Speaker 2: that direction even more teams than ever this year didn't
Speaker 2: play play guys.
Speaker 3: I had one of the kind of dumb tails off yoursils.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: I call a little bit just like a feeling just
Speaker 3: through following the league for many many years that I'm
Speaker 3: watching that Eagles Patriots game and I'm thinking myself, is
Speaker 3: it gonna be totally stunning if without their play caller
Speaker 3: of a year ago and all the magic of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two are the Eagles? Is this going to be
Speaker 3: a trend this year where it's just not coming as
Speaker 3: easy to the Eagles? And you look at the drive
Speaker 3: charts from that game, and you factor in that there
Speaker 3: was a pick six early on. The Eagles did not
Speaker 3: move the ball well. They struggled to do the things
Speaker 3: that looked just so easy last year. You already had
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift kind of lifting his eyebrows about eyebrow about
Speaker 3: not getting a lot of touches, like, is this going
Speaker 3: to be a season that it's not? They're just not
Speaker 3: going to steamroll like they did a year ago. Listen,
Speaker 3: Is that a dumb question?
Speaker 4: Yes, it is a dumb question, because are we saying
Speaker 4: that about the Chiefs?
Speaker 5: Are we saying that about the Bills.
Speaker 2: Are we saying that.
Speaker 5: True?
Speaker 3: They still got their play caller, they still got Pat Mahomes,
Speaker 3: and they didn't have Travis Kelce.
Speaker 1: Not worried about the Chiefs as an example.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Okay, that's fair, that's fine. I'm not worried
Speaker 4: about the Eagles. I think that Yeah, they looked absolutely
Speaker 4: flat and maybe maybe they just didn't take this as
Speaker 4: seriously because everything seemed to come so easily to them
Speaker 4: last year except in that final game against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: But the play caller situation, he's been with the team
Speaker 4: for three years. Brian Johnson, their offensive coordinator, like they
Speaker 4: he has a relationship with Jalen Hurts. He's known him
Speaker 4: since Jalen was five years old. Like these two, they
Speaker 4: obviously have a rapport and it just seems like they
Speaker 4: just have a lot of things that they need to
Speaker 4: clean up. And we'll get to a lot of those
Speaker 4: when we do the Thursday night previews since they're playing
Speaker 4: the Vikings.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean the Eagles offense, they it looked terrible.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it was just because
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick has such a good defense and guys like
Speaker 4: Kean White were making a which should be a good
Speaker 4: Eagles offensive line look a little shaky, and the protection
Speaker 4: for Jalen Hurts just wasn't there. But it was bad.
Speaker 4: I mean four for thirteen on third down conversions. That's
Speaker 4: awful and inexcusable.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think the way Dan phrased it, it's not a
Speaker 2: dumb question at all. It's actually quite natural. Because even
Speaker 2: in uh, what why are you laughing?
Speaker 1: Colleen? Just like what was he about to say? He's
Speaker 1: gonna put anxiety bit.
Speaker 3: Teresa? Like what did Greg say this time? There's not
Speaker 3: a therapist in the South, And like what did Greg
Speaker 3: say this time?
Speaker 5: And how did it make it?
Speaker 1: Let's work through it.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the Eagles. I picked them to
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl this year. But the way Dan
Speaker 2: phrased the question, is it going to be tougher tougher
Speaker 2: sledding throughout this season? That's how the NFL usually works.
Speaker 2: I guess that's where I was going with the Bengals too.
Speaker 2: Like these teams towards the top, with the exception of
Speaker 2: the Brady Patriots, the Manning Colts, the Rogers Packers. For
Speaker 2: the most part, there are exceptions that stay in the
Speaker 2: top three to four seeds almost every year. It's just
Speaker 2: hard to keep staying there each and every season. And
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles can ultimately, but I think having
Speaker 2: a bumpy ride, certainly bumpier than a year ago. The schedule,
Speaker 2: everything is totally natural, and we'll test, We'll test them.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean I'm giving up faith in them, but I
Speaker 2: think I'll test them.
Speaker 3: It's not like I don't think the Eagles are cooked
Speaker 3: or anything. I think it's a full off season of
Speaker 3: all their opponents, including the division opponents, really studying what
Speaker 3: they did last year. It's a guy like Belichick having
Speaker 3: the summer to get ready for that game. It's just
Speaker 3: they're not gonna take people by surprise. Here is that
Speaker 3: drive chart, by the way. So they jump out three
Speaker 3: to nothing, then they get the pick six, it's ten
Speaker 3: to nothing. Then they have a short field and they
Speaker 3: go twenty six yards and make sixteen nothing against the Eagles.
Speaker 3: After that, three and out, three and out, three and out,
Speaker 3: three and out. After halftime, they have a play a
Speaker 3: field goal drive, long goal drive, buch a long field goal,
Speaker 3: field goal drive, and then when it was close out time.
Speaker 1: That was what really kind of last year. They just
Speaker 1: closed teams out.
Speaker 2: Felt like they just hung on fumble bad.
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts fumble where it doesn't do that or unless
Speaker 3: it's the Super Bowl down and gave the Pats one
Speaker 3: more chance.
Speaker 1: So not a great offensive effort. Let's see what they
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 4: You know what, You're right, because I was thinking during
Speaker 4: this game, like why aren't they going to Dallas Goddard,
Speaker 4: Like he had zero catches in this game, He didn't
Speaker 4: get his first target until the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: He needs to be involved in the offense. He's so good.
Speaker 5: There was just a lot of questionable decisions.
Speaker 2: They didn't get inside the Patriots thirty after their first
Speaker 2: drive of the game, other than when they turned it
Speaker 2: over that that one time. So that that's like ten
Speaker 2: straight drives not inside the thirty. And what you hit
Speaker 2: on with Swift and then you just did with Godard.
Speaker 2: I actually think that's the number one thing that's going
Speaker 2: to be most difficult to manage. I actually had the
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that maybe they didn't add like a really
Speaker 2: high level third receiver this year draft one just because
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be tough to keep a j Brown.
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith got her everyone happy, and that is something
Speaker 2: to manage when you have players that are all that good.
Speaker 4: Even last year is a nice problem that week one
Speaker 4: last year when A. J. Brown had just gotten to Philly.
Speaker 4: DeVante Smith had zero catches.
Speaker 5: In that game.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how many times he was targeted,
Speaker 4: but he was not involved at all. And so they
Speaker 4: fixed it. They they pivoted and moved on the off season.
Speaker 2: You ala keep cracking up four hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 2: a game to keep everyone happy like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the annoyed T Swift quote was like someone asked.
Speaker 3: The reporter asked, Sirianni, Hey, two touches for Swift in
Speaker 3: this game, is like, that's not something that we intend
Speaker 3: to do. And then Swift was told about it and goes, oh,
Speaker 3: that's the first thing I heard that.
Speaker 2: So there's just like Swift Swift, d Swift. T Swift
Speaker 2: is making some football news too. But we'll get back.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that later sometime this week. Go ahead, Greg, Oh, wait,
Speaker 2: I had I had a fun dumb question. All right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask a dumb question after watching Dolphins and
Speaker 2: Chargers over the weekend. I don't want to be a
Speaker 2: prisoner at the moment, but is it a dumb question
Speaker 2: to say that Tua tongue of vloa actually fits Mike
Speaker 2: what Mike McDaniel wants to do, maybe better than Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert even you know, I I am mister Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: in a vacuum. I would take Justin Herbert ten times
Speaker 2: out of ten, and you got you gotta worry about
Speaker 2: what Tua is health wise and stuff. But just for
Speaker 2: that specific offense, kind of the McDaniel shanahan offense, is
Speaker 2: Tua kind of the the perfect guy for that specific offense,
Speaker 2: which is just get through your reads, get rid of
Speaker 2: the ball as quickly as possible.
Speaker 5: He kind of looks like it, at least he did there.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe dumb questions.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe that's you know what enough, it's kind
Speaker 3: of an obvious one, right, he's a perfect.
Speaker 2: Well we were got to do one dumb question. You
Speaker 2: said to to make a second one. It fell apart.
Speaker 2: If that guy a five hour energy show, it works,
Speaker 2: it works, okay, perfect, All right, here's a dumb question.
Speaker 2: Then no, you can't get no, you just did one. Okay,
Speaker 2: well I would sign it. He's done. I was choosing
Speaker 2: to go ahead Colleen, but that's really good. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: you have one that you like, Colleen.
Speaker 5: I do have one. I actually I need to write.
Speaker 4: I wrote this down on a piece of paper last
Speaker 4: night because I was like, you know what, I need
Speaker 4: to throw this out to the group.
Speaker 5: So there was a.
Speaker 4: Movie shooting at our house. Our friends were shooting a
Speaker 4: movie for a couple of days, and actually the radio
Speaker 4: voice of the Titans, Mike Keith, his son Matt Keith,
Speaker 4: was there as a script supervisor. Oho, who oh my god,
Speaker 4: lovely that whole family. I just like shout out to them.
Speaker 4: But when they brought in all of the food for
Speaker 4: everyone that was there, it was a lot of Panda
Speaker 4: Express for one of the nights. So I just was wondering,
Speaker 4: do just Panda Express also give you guys nightmares?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so we're off the beaten path, like actual
Speaker 3: eating it makes me nightmares.
Speaker 5: Like nightmare fuel.
Speaker 9: Never never like sort of msg that gives you driving
Speaker 9: one hundred miles an hour up a one way street
Speaker 9: covered in snow on a windy breaks.
Speaker 2: You're blaming that on the Express, not thinking about the
Speaker 2: extra work that you have to do with Stephanie or
Speaker 2: who is it Samantha Suan. I have never clocked it,
Speaker 2: but it's possible. I haven't had it since it's been
Speaker 2: a while. It's been a while, it's been since. Like
Speaker 2: it's right across the street. For this is like the
Speaker 2: second type in Express come up recently, right across the
Speaker 2: street from my kids elementary school. So I smell it,
Speaker 2: uh huh quite often, the waft of it, and I
Speaker 2: don't I don't want it. There's too much good Chinese
Speaker 2: food around. I don't want it.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, that's interesting because I kind of the
Speaker 3: growing up in New York, the cheap Chinese.
Speaker 5: Food was so Chinese food's the best.
Speaker 1: But food not here, and Panda Express falls under this.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't have a craving for Panda Express,
Speaker 3: and then when I have Chinese food like that takeout
Speaker 3: Chinese food here, it's like, what is this trying to be?
Speaker 3: Because this is not what it's like back on the
Speaker 3: other side of the country. So I don't really have
Speaker 3: a big connection. By the way, my nightmares are a
Speaker 3: little different. Mine always are rooted, and they make them
Speaker 3: more terrifying. They're more rooted in a sense of reality,
Speaker 3: such as the one I had last night because we
Speaker 3: were talking about a potential trip to London for the podcast,
Speaker 3: and I had a nightmare that I'm at the airport
Speaker 3: and we're getting on the plane and then I don't
Speaker 3: have my passport.
Speaker 1: Well, that kind of like the ones.
Speaker 2: That literally that happened. Happened almost you one day one
Speaker 2: time we were going to London. You were on the
Speaker 2: way there and realized you didn't have a passport, and
Speaker 2: then Emily had to bring it to the airport. Am
Speaker 2: I right?
Speaker 3: That was like some other weird card or something we needed.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the passport. I think it was like a
Speaker 3: VAX card or some erroneous I will say, though it perfect.
Speaker 4: One of the others I had was you guys were
Speaker 4: all in it and Patrick Claybon and I told Clayvon
Speaker 4: this yesterday when I saw him in the garage, that
Speaker 4: we all quit to become construction workers.
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is there is, there's a honesty to
Speaker 2: that work.
Speaker 3: That's like at the end of Office Space, That's what
Speaker 3: the main character went into.
Speaker 2: He just said, I'm gonna going to do construction. Yeahing
Speaker 2: wrong with that?
Speaker 1: All right? I got a dumb question.
Speaker 3: Are the Chicago Bear is going to have the first
Speaker 3: overall pick again, can I I want to pull up.
Speaker 3: I want to pull up something that's been going around
Speaker 3: the web on social media here, and it is Chase
Speaker 3: Claypool's effort level in week one against the rival Packers.
Speaker 2: Do we have that?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Steelers fans have been talking about this all.
Speaker 1: Remember the Bears traded away a high value.
Speaker 2: Draft picked at the top of the second round.
Speaker 3: Right, what do we got? Let's just keep an eye
Speaker 3: on this. There is a lot of outside perimeter blocking
Speaker 3: that he is opting out of entirely.
Speaker 1: He also was targeted twice without a catch.
Speaker 3: He went into the tent a couple of times, but
Speaker 3: has no injury designation, and notably, Matt Eberflus would not
Speaker 3: commit to him being active for week two.
Speaker 1: Now a couple other things.
Speaker 3: Here is reporting from Dan Whiderer, who covers the Bears
Speaker 3: beat reporter for the Tribune. Justin Fields acknowledged in his
Speaker 3: words that the offense was quote two conservative, with taking
Speaker 3: chances down the field against the Packers. Asked asked why,
Speaker 3: Field shrugged, I'm not sure. I don't know. And then
Speaker 3: finally this note from again Weirderer, I hope I'm pronouncing
Speaker 3: that right. In my time covering the NFL, I can't
Speaker 3: really remember a time where on a Wednesday of Week
Speaker 3: two a building seems so apparently shaken by and or
Speaker 3: short on answers for what happened in Week one. That
Speaker 3: is to me a huge red flag. That is a
Speaker 3: coaching staff that we had questions about entering the season.
Speaker 3: That is a team that laid a major Week one egg.
Speaker 3: We talked about how important that game was for the
Speaker 3: organization post Aaron Rodgers with the Packers at home after
Speaker 3: all the money and resources that came into that roster
Speaker 3: to flatline in that game, you wonder if the I
Speaker 3: got I'll just ask you, you wonder if the coaching staff
Speaker 3: has its arms around this team and have the ability
Speaker 3: to get them out of this funk.
Speaker 5: I mean, do you think that they'll be worse than
Speaker 5: the Cardinals?
Speaker 1: Is it a dumb question to ask that this is
Speaker 1: a potential train wreck and.
Speaker 2: Anything after one week doesn't feel it feels like, yes,
Speaker 2: that's dumb to throw them up to the bus. But
Speaker 2: I am also the same person who went in on
Speaker 2: their under seven and a half and thought they had
Speaker 2: a ways to go. When we did that over Under
Speaker 2: pod with Bill Barnwell, and that was the most concerning
Speaker 2: Week one game, whereas I took an early look at
Speaker 2: the old schedule, just keep an eye on Locks because
Speaker 2: you know, we got these prime time games to get
Speaker 2: to kind of consider it even earlier. And I was like, hmm,
Speaker 2: the Bucks at home against the Bears, is that a
Speaker 2: game you would look at. It's like, if you had
Speaker 2: told me I would be considering locking up the Bucks
Speaker 2: in Week two, that's a bad sign for the Bears.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not.
Speaker 4: I actually was even thinking about, for a dumb question,
Speaker 4: will the Bears ever be good again? That's I feel
Speaker 4: like every year I want them to be. They should be.
Speaker 4: I was talking up DJ Moore and DJ Moore and
Speaker 4: Chase Claypool were both complete non factors in this game.
Speaker 2: It's early, it's possible, and they have a great Week
Speaker 2: two opponent to try to get off the schneid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: make you feel better, but there is something to the
Speaker 2: fact when you when you're the head coach and you
Speaker 2: have the same coordinator in the same quarterback and you've
Speaker 2: lost eleventh straight games. I mean, I know it's one season,
Speaker 2: it's a new season, but that that's something.
Speaker 1: That's fair, Dog, that's fair.
Speaker 3: All right, do you want to let's go, Let's take
Speaker 3: a break and then we'll hit the previews starting week
Speaker 3: two primetime games. That right, we're back. I'm back, let's go.
Speaker 3: Everything is okay, everything's fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're your team is not involved in
Speaker 2: this super sized Wednesday primetime preview. I guess every every
Speaker 2: week we have London games though, too, we'll have an
Speaker 2: extra game.
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that?
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the Thursday night football contest. First,
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings. Oh, the Minnesota Vikings really tripped on
Speaker 3: their own wires in Week one against the Bucks, finding
Speaker 3: a way to lose that game at home, bad turnovers,
Speaker 3: couldn't get the big stop at the end to get
Speaker 3: the ball back, and the Bucks escape with a one
Speaker 3: point win. Now the reward, Greggie, is they go to
Speaker 3: Philly to face the Eagles, who, as we just talked about,
Speaker 3: didn't have a great Week one, especially on offense, but
Speaker 3: their home and I do remember, Greg how the Vikings
Speaker 3: and specifically Kirk Cousins played in primetime against Philly one
Speaker 3: year ago around this.
Speaker 2: Time, either that was Week two or Week three, that's
Speaker 2: exactly week two. Okay, so I believe that wasn Now
Speaker 2: we're here Thursday night. But that is such a tough
Speaker 2: ask and to uh spin it a little positive for
Speaker 2: the Eagles. They have to be so excited about what
Speaker 2: they got out of their Georgia Bulldog. Oh yeah, Jalen
Speaker 2: Carter in Week.
Speaker 1: One, my defensive Rookie of the Year pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, had eight pressures. And oh, by the way, his
Speaker 2: old college teammate Jordan Davis had the best game of
Speaker 2: his career. Second year player, if you remember, an enormous
Speaker 2: man who certainly had a slow start to his career,
Speaker 2: was only getting ten to fifteen snaps per game. They
Speaker 2: had to sign some guys. He played thirty five steps,
Speaker 2: he had a fourth one, he had a sec. He
Speaker 2: was very active. And I think of those two guys,
Speaker 2: and I think these guys are gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2: And oh, who are they playing this week? The team
Speaker 2: that gave up more interior pressures than any team in
Speaker 2: the NFL, who had Kirk Cousins getting killed all last year,
Speaker 2: and who didn't make any changes to their interior line.
Speaker 2: It's actually the exact same three guys. And what did
Speaker 2: you see in that Tampa game. You saw a lot
Speaker 2: of pressure up the middle, you saw them sending a
Speaker 2: lot of blitz I could see the Eagles being creative.
Speaker 2: I can see them not needing to be creative because
Speaker 2: Carter and Davis are getting after I think it's a
Speaker 2: very positive sign for.
Speaker 4: The And the Vikings already ruled out their center, Garrett Bradberry,
Speaker 4: so that's a huge huge factor in this.
Speaker 2: I know it was probably the best of their three guys.
Speaker 2: Their two guards especially really struggle.
Speaker 4: The Eagles line is just so talented, like no matter
Speaker 4: how you spin it, you're not going to be able
Speaker 4: to double everyone there. And Jalen Carter was absolutely that
Speaker 4: dude in this game. He was a force working against
Speaker 4: the Patriots guards who aren't that great, but still he was.
Speaker 5: He looked really, really good.
Speaker 4: But when you think about the game last year against
Speaker 4: the Vikings and how bad the Vikings look, the one
Speaker 4: thing that's really different this year is the defensive coordinator
Speaker 4: and the way that Brian Flores runs things because he
Speaker 4: blitzes so much. And that's one of the things that
Speaker 4: I'll be watching because Jalen hurts. He was blitzed a
Speaker 4: lot in the game against the Patriots, and he you know,
Speaker 4: he was all right. I thought the offensive line didn't
Speaker 4: hold up as well as it normally does, but they
Speaker 4: were in a lot of situations where they were in
Speaker 4: obvious passing situations, in a lot of long third downs.
Speaker 4: I mean, they got to be better on those early downs.
Speaker 4: But this is I mean, they need to improve in that.
Speaker 4: But obviously Ed Donna Tell, who was the defensive coordinator
Speaker 4: for the Vikings last year, he didn't blitz nearly as much.
Speaker 2: Rype of Flores led the league, and how many times
Speaker 2: he blitzed last week. But they only had two quarterback
Speaker 2: hits on Baker True holds the ball a little it
Speaker 2: so that's a little concerning, like they might not have
Speaker 2: the jew and theer a risk taking defense. I just
Speaker 2: they need to get a more is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If you're a Vikings fan, I've seen Kirk Cousins play
Speaker 2: great games. I've seen him play bad games.
Speaker 1: We all have.
Speaker 3: I've never seen him look as shook as he did.
Speaker 3: Hmm that game and you go back, you look at
Speaker 3: his box score. I don't even need to, but I
Speaker 3: know it was bad. If you watch the tape, I
Speaker 3: remember he probably could have thrown two or three more
Speaker 3: interceptions that even got credited with.
Speaker 1: He was completely shook, and.
Speaker 2: I m.
Speaker 1: I did Thursday Night football lock last week, and.
Speaker 2: It's not lockable.
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? That's not what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: Let's go with DraftKings as our official.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know these lines move sometimes. I look at
Speaker 2: him at one point and I see a big honkin
Speaker 2: seven and it's down to six.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna grab the Eagles.
Speaker 3: Listen, this is the mirror, a little foggy. Give me
Speaker 3: a cut some slack. Okay, it's been a tough week.
Speaker 3: We're going to lock up the Eagles. I don't like
Speaker 3: locking up Thursday. I don't like locking up Thursday night
Speaker 3: games ever, because they're just funky. But I just don't
Speaker 3: love what I saw from the Vikings in Week one.
Speaker 3: Don't love the way Kirk Cousins played last year against
Speaker 3: the same opponent in the same setup. So I think
Speaker 3: the Eagles are going to get me back to five
Speaker 3: hundred in the locks.
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, though, I mean, I know that he did
Speaker 4: not look good last year against the Eagles. Darius Lay
Speaker 4: completely locked him up. But James Bradberry's and concussion protocol
Speaker 4: on a short week, so they're going to be shorthanded cornerbacks,
Speaker 4: so that could be a problem because they also have
Speaker 4: Jordan Adison.
Speaker 2: No, I you know how I don't like doing the
Speaker 2: same because this is probably the best one on the board.
Speaker 2: I don't have any issues with it. I mean, I
Speaker 2: just don't like the feel of it, you know, just
Speaker 2: like es are having different different ones.
Speaker 1: It doesn't like me taking him by the hand and
Speaker 1: walking with him. He likes to lead with his chest.
Speaker 2: I definitely don't like that either. I did think the
Speaker 2: Vikings offense, despite a few major blunders like the o
Speaker 2: lineman stepping on Cousin's foot in a wacky screenplay like
Speaker 2: they had some pretty big blunders, actually looked like the
Speaker 2: Vikings offense and threw the ball pretty well against Tampa.
Speaker 2: If you can attack Philly, it's in the middle of
Speaker 2: the field. Maybe their safeties they're linebackers, Dean like, That's
Speaker 2: where the Patriots won over and over again. It was
Speaker 2: a good performance by mac Jones for the most part,
Speaker 2: so I think the Vikings could actually move the ball.
Speaker 2: I don't. I that said, I would even take Eagles,
Speaker 2: mindus six. I'd take them to cover. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: the Vikings were far from hopeless.
Speaker 1: On offense.
Speaker 3: They moved the ball really well, especially through the air.
Speaker 3: Didn't love the running game, didn't have a lot of
Speaker 3: support there, and then just they made a bunch of
Speaker 3: dumb plays that cost him that game.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna lock it up too, wow.
Speaker 5: I mean, guys, hold hands, I can.
Speaker 2: I just know Nick's gonna get after us because you
Speaker 2: have this one.
Speaker 3: Now, you have your own stuff with Nick. Don't bring
Speaker 3: me into it with this US stuff. That's you and
Speaker 3: Nick that's you, and Nick Westling that's you.
Speaker 5: And we bring in Suzanne for this.
Speaker 1: Get her in here, by the way.
Speaker 3: During my deeply unemployed era in the late aughts early ten,
Speaker 3: I interviewed in person like over an hour with TMZ,
Speaker 3: who were launching a sports division. And you know the
Speaker 3: guy that with the dreadlocks, that's like Harvey Levin's guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like me and him one on one, just like talking
Speaker 3: for like ninety minutes maybe even it was like a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 1: Like, I guess I'm gonna get the job.
Speaker 2: I didn't even really want it, but I needed a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, never called me back, that's fine. Whatever I thought
Speaker 3: about that just now when I looked at a text
Speaker 3: you sent last night, headline from TMZ Sports, NFL's Fletcher
Speaker 3: Cox sued, you ruined my marriage when you banged my wife.
Speaker 1: Slammer.
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, I did not think this should be
Speaker 2: on the show. This is from when I sent it
Speaker 2: to you guys.
Speaker 4: Because I was putting together these notes, I was not thinking,
Speaker 4: and as I mentioned earlier, I asked Google a lot
Speaker 4: of stupid questions and I just typed in Fletcher Cox
Speaker 4: banged up instead of injury or anything like that, and
Speaker 4: that was what.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is from twenty seventeen, and I was like,
Speaker 3: why is my computer doing this?
Speaker 1: I thought this was like a current events story from
Speaker 1: the people.
Speaker 5: To years old. It's basically when you were doing the
Speaker 5: TMZ interview, that's what.
Speaker 3: This was, just a report Greg from TMZ years ago.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the outcome was.
Speaker 2: I was not aware of this. Yeah right, I'm glad
Speaker 2: that I am.
Speaker 1: I'm merely.
Speaker 3: Sending along what was report from a news organization I
Speaker 3: once interviewed with, and perhaps I'm happy I ended up
Speaker 3: at a different organization.
Speaker 1: As it turned.
Speaker 2: Good, T and f game though, Al's gotta be happy.
Speaker 2: I know Al was, like, you know, really pumped up
Speaker 2: that the first Sunday or Thursday Night gave of the
Speaker 2: year Sunday Night gave. He's just rooting against that, and
Speaker 2: now he's got a hopefully a good one.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many years have left on his contract.
Speaker 3: You never know how much Al Michaels you have left.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. Let's move to Sunday Night football.
Speaker 2: But you feel good about the Eagles, right, Yeah?
Speaker 5: If they lose this week, I won't feel good.
Speaker 3: And I did say the last segment I was a
Speaker 3: little eye on their offense a little bit. I just
Speaker 3: think at home in primetime, yeah, they'll be all right.
Speaker 1: Right. I also thought the Chiefs are gonna be all
Speaker 1: right in week one.
Speaker 2: And right now I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna You can't know anything until four
Speaker 4: weeks have been played.
Speaker 5: That's my rule.
Speaker 3: Hey, season doesn't start until they after Thanksgiving back after
Speaker 3: it is all right, let's move to Sunday Night football.
Speaker 2: The game is a good one.
Speaker 5: As I pull it up, it is Dolphins and Patriots.
Speaker 3: Dolphins and Pats, a great AFC East matchup. I think
Speaker 3: some people are gonna be a little underwhelmed by this.
Speaker 3: For instance, how is the Tom Brady ringing this dumbbell
Speaker 3: thing and running on that, which is very cool. If
Speaker 3: I was a Patriots fan, I'd love him with a
Speaker 3: jersey on for the first time. How's that not the
Speaker 3: Sunday night halftime the Week one?
Speaker 1: What's fine? Whatever?
Speaker 3: But the way they played on defense, Connie, the Pats
Speaker 3: make me think this is a great, great game, because, yes,
Speaker 3: the Dolphins were unstoppable in Week one, but there's a
Speaker 3: difference between the Chargers at home with Brandon Staley and
Speaker 3: all the letdown juice that admits from every pore that
Speaker 3: they have, and Bill Belichick in prime time in his backyard.
Speaker 3: I'm Bill, and I'm gonna take care of business. It
Speaker 3: is gonna be different tho dime around.
Speaker 5: Do you better be careful to see the game last night?
Speaker 2: See the game? Did you watch a game one one day? Yeah?
Speaker 5: The Patriots defense looked great.
Speaker 4: Shocker that Bill Belichick's defense played really well and had
Speaker 4: a nice start there. They held the Eagles to nine
Speaker 4: points after the first quarter, which we talked about before,
Speaker 4: limited the Eagles to two hundred and fifty one total yards.
Speaker 4: I mean, but Tua and Tyreek like Ken, I would
Speaker 4: love to see. I can't wait to see how they
Speaker 4: play this game and if they can limit Tyreek Hill
Speaker 4: because it seems like he is someone that you absolutely
Speaker 4: can't I mean, he he played what he had two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen receiving yards in this game. And then
Speaker 4: even Tua when he threw that interception in the game
Speaker 4: against the Chargers, he wasn't frazzled at all. He came
Speaker 4: right back and went deep again to Tyreek, so it
Speaker 4: was like no problem for him. He was completely unfazed.
Speaker 4: But I think the biggest thing that I'm watching for
Speaker 4: the Dolphins defensively, can they clean things up and like
Speaker 4: really play up to the potential that they have, because
Speaker 4: the Dolphins gave up four hundred and thirty three yards
Speaker 4: thirty four points to the Chargers. Like I want to
Speaker 4: know if maybe the Patriots run game will actually come
Speaker 4: alive considering what this Dolphins run defense looked like against
Speaker 4: the Chargers. They were completely bolded by the way, and
Speaker 4: it was weird. It was just weird to see in
Speaker 4: that you looked.
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of zeke. I mean they as
Speaker 2: you mentioned the guards that they had a bunch of injuries.
Speaker 5: They didn't even start their two.
Speaker 2: Rookie guards, Tonio Maffi and cityso playing the guard position.
Speaker 2: Calvin and Anderson kind of a retread who was on
Speaker 2: the NFI list for most of the preseason, started right tackle.
Speaker 2: They're playing to Mario Douglas, a late round pick. They're
Speaker 2: playing Kendrick Bourne more than Juju Smith Schuster. I mean
Speaker 2: not Kendrick Bourne. They're playing Kaishon Boody more than Juju
Speaker 2: Smith Schuster, an undrafted rookie. They got Zeke out there,
Speaker 2: you got Time Montgomery. It's like the talent's not great,
Speaker 2: and yet I came away from that game being like
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien got guys open. That was the best Mac
Speaker 2: Jones game. I mean, Mac Jones was way up and
Speaker 2: way down. He was third in the NFL last week
Speaker 2: in big time throws only behind Tua in Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: He was third in the NFL and turnover worthy plays.
Speaker 2: So it was like a big ups and downs Mac.
Speaker 2: But at least he got some ups. He didn't have
Speaker 2: that last year.
Speaker 5: My first drive was brutal.
Speaker 2: I think that the Dolphins, to your point, will kind
Speaker 2: of invite them to run that's what Panjo does, and
Speaker 2: I think Belichick will be happy to they try to.
Speaker 3: Belichick's defense last year held the Dolphins under a three
Speaker 3: hundred and forty yards total in both games.
Speaker 1: The second time, I think there was no two to it.
Speaker 2: I went and looked too that. I think two has
Speaker 2: played them three.
Speaker 5: Times in four times that has won all four.
Speaker 2: And his numbers have been low. I just think that's
Speaker 2: going to be the storyline of one. I think that's
Speaker 2: the storyline of this game. I think people are going
Speaker 2: to be expecting the Dolphins to carve again.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be that type of game.
Speaker 3: And if they if they come out of this game
Speaker 3: in this environment, and I'm not really high on the Pats,
Speaker 3: but I feel like this is set up well for
Speaker 3: them to get a win and get back to five hundred.
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins win a different type of game here
Speaker 3: where they're able to kind of go a little more
Speaker 3: smash mouth, hit passes and crunch time that are just
Speaker 3: you're not running all over the field uncovered, and they
Speaker 3: get out of here with like a twenty seventeen win,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, all right, now, we're really starting
Speaker 3: to talk.
Speaker 1: With the Dopins, I think they could win in different ways.
Speaker 3: The Mac Jones side of it, I yeah, he was
Speaker 3: very watching him this morning, very up and down.
Speaker 1: There was a pass.
Speaker 2: Overall I would say quite good. That would have been
Speaker 2: as one of it. That would have been his best
Speaker 2: game is aline. He's definitely on my radar. That's not great.
Speaker 3: It's there are balls that like there was a ball
Speaker 3: late and I think maybe it was Kendrick Bourne. Maybe
Speaker 3: Bourne should have caught it, but the ball kind of
Speaker 3: just floats in there.
Speaker 2: Oh he got hit.
Speaker 3: That was one of his best throws that I paid
Speaker 3: another one he got hit in the head where he
Speaker 3: threw one and crunch time a big spot in the
Speaker 3: game and it got almost intercepted at the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmaging to get away with it. So yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not sold on Mac and know you see him
Speaker 3: as a bounce back guy this year. I think it's
Speaker 3: going to be a lower scoring game and I think
Speaker 3: that's what we're going to be talking about on Monday Night,
Speaker 3: that the Dolphins didn't have their way.
Speaker 1: Now do they still find a way to win.
Speaker 2: I hate this spot for the Patriots because I think
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are really good. They had sixteen explosives last week.
Speaker 2: That was the second most. I used this stat on
Speaker 2: our NFL Plus rewatch of Chargers Dolphins, and everyone should
Speaker 2: check out shoot that on NFL Plus. That was fun.
Speaker 2: Tu It just was so good. He was the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in the League's placement, his creativity, his deep stuff,
Speaker 2: like he looked like a guy ready to take the
Speaker 2: next step. And that worries me because the weird reaction in Foxborough.
Speaker 2: It was like they won this game. Everyone in New
Speaker 2: England is all fired up. It's like the most the
Speaker 2: biggest moral victory party I've ever seen. I'm very surprised
Speaker 2: by this because I looked at it and I was like,
Speaker 2: you got to take advantage when you outplay the opponent,
Speaker 2: which I think they did against the Eagles. Overall, you
Speaker 2: outgained him by one for it. You got to take
Speaker 2: advantage of that because you're not necessarily going to play
Speaker 2: at that level every week, and you have two straight
Speaker 2: home games to start the season. If you don't win
Speaker 2: this one, like that's great, here's your lollipop. You're owen too,
Speaker 2: Like this is almost it's not a must win, but
Speaker 2: you start at home zero and two, You're you're not
Speaker 2: gonna be.
Speaker 4: Because after that they go on against the Jets and
Speaker 4: the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Right, So I think it's a big game and they
Speaker 2: could certainly win it. I think it's a coin flip,
Speaker 2: but it's a tough, tough one.
Speaker 3: I you know, I want the Pats to win, so
Speaker 3: I wanted the well, I want the AFC East to
Speaker 3: be kind of muddled with everybody like around five hundred
Speaker 3: or one to one. And I don't want the Pats
Speaker 3: going against the Jets in Week three in cornered animal mode.
Speaker 3: Oh Belichick being like needing that win, so get a
Speaker 3: nice w here and then no show against the Jets.
Speaker 1: I mean that Mac Jones just throwing wounded ducks.
Speaker 3: Across the secondary, like you know, the Jets safety is
Speaker 3: like genuflecting and doing the sign of the Cross before
Speaker 3: they get the interception.
Speaker 2: Mean playing Mac root against the Dolphins because I think
Speaker 2: they're a big threat to everyone, But don't root for
Speaker 2: that result because of what you said, because every Jets
Speaker 2: game is a cornered animal game. To Bill Belichick is
Speaker 2: he's not letting he is not letting Gott. But at
Speaker 2: this point it just seems like it's they bring out
Speaker 2: their best stuff.
Speaker 1: He's a competitor.
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins run rough shot over Belichick in primetime
Speaker 3: here on the road, that will be I know it's early, Gregy,
Speaker 3: but a major statement.
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5: I feel like Belichick will just have like the red
Speaker 5: laser eyes.
Speaker 2: They've got some weird things going on though, too. They
Speaker 2: have a lot of guys making a lot of money
Speaker 2: on their defense AGBA, Bradley Chubb, XAVI and Howard David
Speaker 2: Long who either didn't play much long in AGBA that
Speaker 2: was weird or just didn't play well. So they got
Speaker 2: some They got issues to.
Speaker 4: Work, Greig, I have no idea how you read any
Speaker 4: of your notes. I've never seen handwriting this small in
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 5: I feel like I need a telescope.
Speaker 2: I got those contacts in you know.
Speaker 5: Wow, you want to do that is impressive.
Speaker 3: How do you like people looking at your stuff? I'm
Speaker 3: fine with it your private stuff. Yes, you did mark
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I want to show my work I have, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have no problem. Maybe I'll send it out, send
Speaker 2: it on on my ig.
Speaker 3: Little Christian Gonzales one on one of Tyreek. In this Gale,
Speaker 3: he looked I think he looked solid active. I'll give
Speaker 3: him that, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: He takes away your best weapon. I look, Bill Bilchick
Speaker 2: has a lot of practice trying to take away Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 2: a lot of big Chiefs games. Not now twice a
Speaker 2: year with the Dolphins, I would think they'll do everything
Speaker 2: possible to uh bracket him and make Jalen Wattle, who's great,
Speaker 2: and everyone else beat them. They we didn't mention it
Speaker 2: on the show, but they lost Jack Jones. They're starting
Speaker 2: cornerback to ir right off the top, so they're a
Speaker 2: little thinner than they'd like, all right. And then two
Speaker 2: Monday nights.
Speaker 1: Monday Night games.
Speaker 3: First one up is Saints at Panthers. Saints laying three
Speaker 3: points of wood. Here, Colleen on, I'm doing both thing.
Speaker 5: I can do two things at once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. For the teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah there, here are the Saints.
Speaker 3: Now they're coming off at narrow win in Week one
Speaker 3: over the Titans sixteen to fifteen. You're gonna want to
Speaker 3: see some more from them, I guess on offense. The Panthers, though,
Speaker 3: Colleen set up as a nice matchup because that's a
Speaker 3: team that you kind of want to see more from
Speaker 3: an offense, But I don't know if they're ready to
Speaker 3: give you more on offense right now. So maybe another
Speaker 3: low scoring game, maybe one side of the fair we.
Speaker 2: Shall see could be.
Speaker 4: I mean, for Bryce Young, it's his first game at home,
Speaker 4: his first primetime game. I guess it's nice that it's
Speaker 4: his second division game in week two. But he needs
Speaker 4: to limit the turnovers as any young quarterback, as any
Speaker 4: quarterback in general needs to do. But he was picked
Speaker 4: off twice last week by Jesse Bates, who looked really good,
Speaker 4: but he did sort of look poised, I thought at moments,
Speaker 4: and he kind of had a problem because the receivers
Speaker 4: couldn't really get a ton of separation except on that
Speaker 4: one where Jonathan Mingo like streaked the length of the
Speaker 4: field and he completely overshot him on that. So for
Speaker 4: Bryce Young, it's one week in the NFL, so I'm
Speaker 4: curious to see how he'll look against the Singhs defense
Speaker 4: that looked really really good last week, especially that secondary.
Speaker 4: They combined for three interceptions against the Titans. They completely
Speaker 4: shut down Derek Henry. He couldn't go anywhere. But I mean,
Speaker 4: there's a lot to kind of unpack with this game.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a tough ask. I told
Speaker 2: Eric to get the lock sound ready, cause I was
Speaker 2: going to lock up the Saints at this spot before
Speaker 2: Dan alerted me to that would be chessed out a
Speaker 2: slightly a slightly better option. The only thing that worries
Speaker 2: me is the Saints always losing this spot. But that
Speaker 2: was like different coaching staff. They just really have struggled
Speaker 2: beating Carolina, especially in Carolina, and it's a Dennis Allen
Speaker 2: team that I don't trust. But Bryce Young struggled. Let's
Speaker 2: be real, two for ten on throws over ten yards
Speaker 2: with two picks twenty three yards, and marsha On Lattimore,
Speaker 2: like a lot of cornerbacks, is a little up and down,
Speaker 2: but man, he has that look this year of a
Speaker 2: guy that's gonna maybe be in the mix for All
Speaker 2: Pro first team cornerback. To Mario Davis, I can't. He
Speaker 2: just gets better and better. It makes no sense. He
Speaker 2: was dominant last week. And I just I think both
Speaker 2: offenses could struggle here because Carolina's defense certainly has talent
Speaker 2: and could look good, could stuff the run. I don't
Speaker 2: trust the Saints run game, but I think it's just
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. For the Panthers to score all season
Speaker 2: and especially in this match.
Speaker 3: This is the second screen game for me. This is
Speaker 3: the iPad screen game for me on Monday night. But
Speaker 3: doesn't mean doesn't have value. Move the sticks. I had
Speaker 3: a good take, and he should. I mean, if he
Speaker 3: just had a platform to share these things, I can't
Speaker 3: believe that would be a huge mo into his career potentially.
Speaker 3: But he pointed out that he wasn't happy with the
Speaker 3: overall game plan and the scheme of the Panthers on
Speaker 3: offense and week went against the Falcons. They were not
Speaker 3: challenging Atlanta downfield until very late in the game, and
Speaker 3: he referred I like the way he said he said
Speaker 3: it was that was half court basketball, twenty two bodies.
Speaker 3: The safety said, zero fear of anything over the top.
Speaker 3: They need to take more early shots to expand the
Speaker 3: field or Bryce is going to have a hard time
Speaker 3: all year. Do they have the dogs to do that?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not Adam Feelin at this stage. Like
Speaker 3: who who do you trust in a post Dymour world
Speaker 3: to make those plays?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Mingo is a second round pick who's got some vertical ability,
Speaker 2: but they were using him in a big spot a lot.
Speaker 2: And that's just it's a lot to ask of a
Speaker 2: second round pick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I don't I don't have.
Speaker 4: I feel like they haven't really set him up yet
Speaker 4: to really succeed. But the Saints offense, they need to
Speaker 4: protect Derek Carr way better than what they did.
Speaker 2: That's where the Panthers could win. Maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he said, and we talked about it on Sunday.
Speaker 3: That was a very physical Tennessee defense, one of the
Speaker 3: better defensive lines in the league. He took up beating.
Speaker 3: And now he's on a short week. But Derek Carr
Speaker 3: is a tough sob in fact, stick a pin in that.
Speaker 3: And for you NFL Plus people, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 3: Derek Carr on our Thursday NFL Plus program. Let's move
Speaker 3: to the second Monday night football game. I love this one. Greens,
Speaker 3: love the Browns versus the Steelers at the catch a Bottle.
Speaker 2: I still call it Hines across Hell. No, I'm not
Speaker 2: getting no pay check from across sure.
Speaker 1: Esther, but I like Hines.
Speaker 2: I do like to catch up if I am at.
Speaker 3: The store and it is the like the Ralphs brand
Speaker 3: for two nineteen and then Hines for two thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm paying the extra two.
Speaker 2: Dimes three nineteen. It's a whole extra dollars.
Speaker 3: Typically not, but then now we're talking we're going over
Speaker 3: dollar one or nothing.
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's in the Heines family.
Speaker 5: It's got to be right.
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll look into it.
Speaker 3: Hey, Eric, can you check if A one is produced
Speaker 3: by the Hines company?
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's why you have to have a top
Speaker 2: right producer.
Speaker 1: Brown Steelers, Browns.
Speaker 3: I was so impressed watching the Browns, by the way
Speaker 3: in Week one against the Bengals. The defense, what else
Speaker 3: needs he said Greggy. But I thought the offense. While
Speaker 3: they didn't blow the doors off in a bad weather game,
Speaker 3: I saw enough there to also feel like they there's
Speaker 3: a lot of room for improvement. And I like them
Speaker 3: a lot in this game, especially Steelers.
Speaker 2: Uh, he already did. I already did. But Cam Haybward
Speaker 2: kim Kem.
Speaker 3: Hayward is a huge player on the Pittsburgh defense, A
Speaker 3: massive contributor, the biggest contributor other than what he's out
Speaker 3: half the season.
Speaker 1: They think he could be out eight weeks.
Speaker 3: And on the other side, Deontay Johnson, who's very talented
Speaker 3: wide out that gives their offense depth and a big
Speaker 3: time playmaker. He's missing a month at least with a hamstring. GREGI,
Speaker 3: so you have a shorthanded Steelers team coming off a
Speaker 3: horrific Week one performance and the Browns coming in feeling
Speaker 3: no pain.
Speaker 2: Right, But that's partly why I think the Steelers at home. Definitely.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it's not a quartern animal
Speaker 2: if you're zero to one, but they need this game,
Speaker 2: and you know I would lean Steelers just but barely.
Speaker 2: You're right. The offense for the Browns looked better. The
Speaker 2: run game looked good. It should, but the blocking was good.
Speaker 2: I know they lost Jack Conklin. We talked about that,
Speaker 2: but I thought Deshaun Watson was better. His eyes still
Speaker 2: came down a little quickly a few times and just
Speaker 2: looking to run. But he is looking to run and
Speaker 2: he's a good runner, and that bailed him out a
Speaker 2: few times. But throwing the ball for a team that
Speaker 2: reportedly really struggled to put together multiple first downs in
Speaker 2: practice and camp, it didn't look bad. He had a
Speaker 2: couple old Deshaun Watson throws. I would say he was
Speaker 2: closer to just like the league average quarterback this week.
Speaker 2: It was not a great performance, but it was tough
Speaker 2: weather situation, it was weak one. I think if you're
Speaker 2: a Browns fan, that's definitely something to hold on to.
Speaker 2: That that was progress. I would say that was better
Speaker 2: than any one of his six games last year because
Speaker 2: that was such a low bar. But he did clear it.
Speaker 2: And we talked about it this offseason that like, look,
Speaker 2: if he's even just okay, they have a chance to
Speaker 2: win a lot of games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you will have to go and face TJ. Watt,
Speaker 4: who looked incredible last week. That was one of the
Speaker 4: bright spots for the stealers.
Speaker 1: Only bright spot.
Speaker 4: It was the only one spot three sacks in that game.
Speaker 4: He looked fantastic. But it's the Browns defense. For me
Speaker 4: and Jim Schwartz this they looked totally different. I mean,
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett and Zadarius Smith were all over Burrow NonStop
Speaker 4: in this game. The secondary was money. They had blankets
Speaker 4: on the receivers the entire time. And what a blow
Speaker 4: up for Grant Delpit. I mean he did not look
Speaker 4: like this with Joe Woods as the coordinator, and in
Speaker 4: this game he had a team high eight tackles. He
Speaker 4: stopped a ton of first downs like he was great
Speaker 4: in this game. So yes, it was rainy conditions, but
Speaker 4: they absolutely shut down Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: The reason why I was even more impressed with Cleveland.
Speaker 3: After watching the game was it didn't feel like the
Speaker 3: Bengals ever even had a chance. Never that when Burrow
Speaker 3: dropped back the pass, the coverage was so good and
Speaker 3: they were so they had him cooked up so well,
Speaker 3: and then the defensive line, led of course by Garrett
Speaker 3: was getting home and it was just like a complete performance.
Speaker 3: And the weather again that factored in, and of course
Speaker 3: the opponent the quarterbacks layoff. I think it made maybe
Speaker 3: Cleveland look like they were the eighty five Bears. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying they're that, but I think, especially the way
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett played and the offense looked in weak one,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a tough assignment and it's gonna
Speaker 3: be I don't know where Sizzlers heads at on this,
Speaker 3: because you got the Browns going to Pittsburgh here, and
Speaker 3: what would be a happy outcome from I think I
Speaker 3: know what it would be, but Steelers. That for Pickett,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a lot of pressure on him because
Speaker 3: there the Boobirds were out a little bit in Week
Speaker 3: one after all the positive press. He can't go out
Speaker 3: there and stink out the joint and primetime in week
Speaker 3: two and do that again, and the Browns are not
Speaker 3: going to make it easy on him.
Speaker 4: He looked like a totally different quarterback than we saw
Speaker 4: in the preseason. He was accurate in the preseason, like
Speaker 4: they were scoring. This offense did not look like themselves
Speaker 4: at all. And when you go back to last year,
Speaker 4: I essentially no one won the week after they played
Speaker 4: the Niners because it is such a physical matchup.
Speaker 5: So that's also bad for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: That is a good way.
Speaker 1: Nobody wins after that.
Speaker 4: I think it was like maybe I gotta go back
Speaker 4: and look, but I think it was only like one
Speaker 4: or two. It was a thing following week after playing
Speaker 4: the Niners. Someone check that.
Speaker 2: I was taken by Mike Tomlins quote where he said,
Speaker 2: look that I watched the film and those cornerbacks for
Speaker 2: the Browns won the game for them. He just said
Speaker 2: it clearly, and on paper they do. It's maybe not
Speaker 2: as well known, but it's one of the better trios
Speaker 2: in the league. Denwi de Ward people know I have
Speaker 2: been there a long time with Martin Emerson, Greg Newsom,
Speaker 2: and then with this defense where they're using Garrett on
Speaker 2: the inside more kind of lining up as a defensive
Speaker 2: tackle or even kind of a linebacker in rushing like
Speaker 2: he did it more in that game almost than he
Speaker 2: did all of last season. And Zadarius with defense. I've
Speaker 2: believed this for a long time. It's not as much
Speaker 2: on offense as offense as about the players. It is.
Speaker 2: The players matter, but it's more about like and it
Speaker 2: can change from year to year. I remember the Bengals
Speaker 2: defense two years ago. Immediately you could see, Wow, they're
Speaker 2: playing just more together, with more energy, more physicality. They
Speaker 2: want it like they just you can see it, and
Speaker 2: you can kind of see that with Brown's defense. You
Speaker 2: think that could be consistent where they're just going to
Speaker 2: play with a great level of physicality and energy and
Speaker 2: that goes a long way on defense. It's it's a
Speaker 2: big Week two game. That's what's great about the NFL.
Speaker 1: Damn it's good.
Speaker 2: Like the importance to the sport. It keeps stacking.
Speaker 5: Up stacking importance.
Speaker 3: Would I also be okay just pushing pause and coming
Speaker 3: back and with the NFL next September.
Speaker 1: I would be okay with that.
Speaker 3: Like week two, we do in like September seventeenth, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, and then anybody, anybody on IR or anything
Speaker 3: like that can play like that.
Speaker 4: I would be willing to sit out a year of
Speaker 4: your life just to get to next season.
Speaker 3: Well just yeah, just so like everyone could be on
Speaker 3: the field again, and I.
Speaker 2: Would I would wait, Now, what about what's happening in
Speaker 2: your actual life outside of football, Like do you miss
Speaker 2: a year of your kids development?
Speaker 3: All those basements, so everything else goes on the NFL
Speaker 3: pauses and when they come back after a year of
Speaker 3: rehab and rebuild it, I mean, after just a year
Speaker 3: of time passes, it's still the twenty twenty three season,
Speaker 3: and it'll be a little confusing because by the end
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three season will be twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Five at that point.
Speaker 3: But we're all just gonna be like we get it,
Speaker 3: Like it was just a different type.
Speaker 2: So also, like when you're you know, going to you're
Speaker 2: still coaching the baseball teams, Yes, are you working during
Speaker 2: this seas?
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, We're just asking for a year of VICA.
Speaker 2: When you are working what are you coming here and doing? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm doing construction in and around Englewood.
Speaker 5: We're going to the site.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you guys could keep doing podcasts previewing the season.
Speaker 3: I'm taking a I think you could do that. I
Speaker 3: think if you if I go to HR and I'm
Speaker 3: like tough stitch for me, I'm talking to Teresa a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to do some Teresa.
Speaker 5: Is your Suzanne?
Speaker 1: Oh, Susanne talking to Susanne.
Speaker 3: I gotta do some construction until Anon Rodgers' ankle and
Speaker 3: achilles is better.
Speaker 1: And they'll be like, well, we can't tell you. You can't.
Speaker 1: Oh see Suzanne.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna do it, and you're gonna do construction,
Speaker 3: and then here we go, a construction sabbatical.
Speaker 2: Beautiful.
Speaker 3: I think the Browns were slept on this offseason. I've
Speaker 3: said that. I think some of the reasons why people
Speaker 3: weren't picking the Browns were things that not necessarily are
Speaker 3: about football. And I get that too, But I think
Speaker 3: they're gonna drop a bomb on the Steelers. Almost want
Speaker 3: it up. But if I would have won in Week one,
Speaker 3: maybe I would have been feeling a little randy and
Speaker 3: do it a little big funk and I would have
Speaker 3: done it, but I'm not so. But I think this
Speaker 3: will be a one sided Browns victory. People are flying,
Speaker 3: People will be quietly flying and not saying that they're flying,
Speaker 3: and some people will be out of their chairs flying.
Speaker 3: And people will be asking two questions on Tuesday morning,
Speaker 3: what's wrong with the Steelers?
Speaker 1: And wow? Are the Browns gonna.
Speaker 2: Win this steader?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: And if that happens, Yeah, I'm looking forward to the
Speaker 2: Monday night recap that we'll be doing with the Sizzler
Speaker 2: because my cold, empty and little heart would say, this
Speaker 2: is a game to me that circles like Steelers, because
Speaker 2: if this game was played a week ago, the Steelers
Speaker 2: would have been three point favorites, maybe three and a half.
Speaker 2: Two teams both expected to be at a similar level
Speaker 2: going into the season, but Steelers a little higher, a
Speaker 2: little better, a lot of talent. I know they've had
Speaker 2: a bad week, certainly on the field and then the injuries.
Speaker 2: Fast forward a week, not that much has changed. They
Speaker 2: are now under There are now two and a half
Speaker 2: point underdogs in this game, and that that usually is
Speaker 2: the moment where you know the desert wins.
Speaker 4: I kind of thought the Browns were I put the
Speaker 4: Browns above the Steelers going for season?
Speaker 2: Okay, so both not by much? Both? You have it
Speaker 2: that way?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: That's it, hey, Eric, behind the glass, do you have
Speaker 3: an answer? That's like the most important question?
Speaker 10: Of course A one is in fact the Hines product.
Speaker 10: There we go, and after sure they did not wipe all.
Speaker 1: Of the Heins references.
Speaker 10: So I guess towards last the end of last season
Speaker 10: they put a Hins name above gate Sea guys.
Speaker 1: I mean so.
Speaker 10: Okay, and there is the behind what does that even mean?
Speaker 10: So they put like Hines logos above. I guess it
Speaker 10: comes out of the Allegheny Light Trail light rail system.
Speaker 2: So that's there. He really went in the week like,
Speaker 2: I see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Corpos.
Speaker 3: By the way, it's like what oh jiha Stadium at
Speaker 3: Arrowhead Field's like, f you it is? You want to
Speaker 3: call it Hines Field at akroshor Stadium.
Speaker 2: Not gonna do it.
Speaker 10: But the best part, guys is every time the Steelers
Speaker 10: enter the red zone, they enter the Heinz Ketchup red
Speaker 10: zone when digital ketchup bottles.
Speaker 1: Pour all over the scoreboard. There you go, very good.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what accurate for sure? Is still all right?
Speaker 2: It hasn't worked.
Speaker 5: We don't know anything about the Niners last year.
Speaker 10: Team, Oh we do. Yeah, this was from Sam Sam.
Speaker 10: He sent this over there. They are what is it?
Speaker 10: One and twelve after playing the Niners this year. Let
Speaker 10: me say I pulled it up a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean that's impossible. There's sorry anymore.
Speaker 10: Yeah, teams are a one to twelve record in weeks
Speaker 10: after playing the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Okay, I take it back. Maybe they had bie weeks
Speaker 2: the week after and that's what Oh that makes sometimes
Speaker 2: I stick the old the mouth.
Speaker 3: Right in the old mouth. All right, that's it, Colleen,
Speaker 3: You've said it all.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
Speaker 5: Guys, should I come back next Wednesday?
Speaker 2: If you're not booked out with Susan yeah, or at
Speaker 2: the site you don't.
Speaker 1: Have a conflict, please join us?
Speaker 2: All right now let me know I said hi, thank you?
Speaker 3: All right, Thursday preview tomorrow till then eat the call.