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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't like to mix friend groups. No, that's so true.

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Speaker 3: From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan hansis.

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Speaker 3: Heroes here, Greg Rosehal and Colleen Wolfe in the sizzler chair.

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Speaker 1: What's up, gay ease?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 4: I love to mix friends group all the time. Like

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Speaker 4: I love having different friends meet each other from different

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Speaker 4: parts of my life.

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Speaker 1: But do they do they like it?

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I've realized over the past like

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Speaker 4: two years that maybe I need to stop doing that.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's not great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I used to do it all the time, but

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Speaker 3: what I realized was that that made things better for me.

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Speaker 3: But for those people, especially people that are like me,

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Speaker 3: that are a little less a little more introverted around

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Speaker 3: people you don't know as well, it just made things

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Speaker 3: a little bit more uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's but that everyone's different.

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Speaker 2: Now. Dan had a very specific list of like it's

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Speaker 2: like like this guy cannot mix with this broad it

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Speaker 2: never happened. It's very tough to get the invite back

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Speaker 2: to the hands of Christmas Party.

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Speaker 4: I should let everyone know that Dan just chugged a

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Speaker 4: five hour Energy Extra Strength before this show.

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Speaker 2: Right as the song was playing essentially, which is a

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Speaker 2: little it just felt dark for it was it was.

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Speaker 1: Half I will say it was half.

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Speaker 3: I used the first half maybe last season, and that

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Speaker 3: was just sitting there and I said, oh, that's even worse.

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Speaker 5: It lasted you all season.

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Speaker 3: Just wow, do you think that expires? That's like nuclear

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Speaker 3: like sludge basically.

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Speaker 5: It expires in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, cover correct, Yeah, it's you know, I needed it.

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Speaker 3: It's been It was a Tuesday was tough. I gotta

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Speaker 3: say Tuesday was tough. I of course Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 3: all that. Check out the Monday Podcast if you're not

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Speaker 3: aware what happened on Monday night football. I was doing

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Speaker 3: some like internal accounting on my way here is like

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Speaker 3: what was my Tuesday?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: It was like I had a vague recollection that yesterday

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Speaker 3: I slept in and then I was falling asleep repeatedly

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Speaker 3: during the day. And part of that was I stayed

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Speaker 3: up really late Monday night reading stuff, but also didn't

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Speaker 3: bad news the day before. When you're gonna realize it

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Speaker 3: when you open your eyes that it happened. It's like

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Speaker 3: it hits again. Knew it was coming, didn't work out,

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Speaker 3: made unhealthy eating choices. I contributed very little to a

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Speaker 3: previously scheduled planning meeting we had.

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Speaker 2: I shot but cut it short.

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Speaker 3: I would say, actually, I shot down a neighbor's request

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Speaker 2: Just said no, not today, neighbor.

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Speaker 3: I coached my son's fall ball baseball team, but I

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Speaker 1: It's like, mean, mean, new coach. I didn't even know me.

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Speaker 1: It was the first practice.

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Speaker 2: That's not how you do an infield shift. Pricky this

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Speaker 3: And I didn't bathe until about ten pm.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gods, that's a tough tuesday for Tugboat.

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Speaker 3: But then I woke up this morning and and you know,

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Speaker 1: And That's where I'm at now. Now.

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Speaker 3: Is it is it difficult to do like a football

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Speaker 3: podcast to work in football? Something like that happens and

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Speaker 3: it feels so personal when that injury occurs. Yes, but

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Speaker 3: that's what we do. Mark is so upset about Aaron

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Speaker 2: Well, you also just might be feeling under the weather,

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Speaker 2: which is also taking Mark out, because I too was falling,

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Speaker 1: Day long Monday. But oh, that was depression, I greg.

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Speaker 3: That's another symptom of depression, which I think I've lapsed

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Speaker 1: Those are two different things. But sleep is a symptom

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Speaker 2: An at POD, I can tell you all about it, right,

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Speaker 2: I think, knowing though you were gonna see Connie and

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Speaker 5: I'm just happy to have Hard Knocks a little twin.

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Speaker 1: We did have Hard Knocks, and that was special.

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Speaker 5: No one can ever take that away from us.

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Speaker 3: No, and they could take away Aaron Rodgers us being

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Speaker 3: the Jets fans, but they can't take away that those

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Speaker 3: fun five weeks. I did think about it, Colleen, we

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Speaker 3: because we basically it was like Aaron Rodgers hype season

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Speaker 3: that entire hard knocks. That's what we talked about, how

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Speaker 3: Which keep in mind, anybody that's trying to, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like this team was built for Aaron Rodgers to lead it,

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Speaker 3: and now they have to pivot on the fly.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to sol on a second.

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Speaker 3: But remember in the first episode when and this is

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Speaker 3: what I kept thinking about, and I can't even listen

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Speaker 3: but I just can't hear it again. Jeff Olbrick, the

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Speaker 3: And Oldbrick says to the team and the defense and

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Speaker 3: meeting like that's our guy, that's our quarterback, and the

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Speaker 3: whole meeting room was just like yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 3: he was speaking for Jets fans too, like that's our quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So that is that is the world that we now exist,

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Speaker 3: and that that guy's.

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Speaker 1: Gone, and but time heals all ones. I'm getting back.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting my juice back already and feeling like I

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Speaker 3: could be watching a fun, plucky team this season.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, one of the.

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Speaker 4: Other listening to the Monday recap pod with you guys,

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Speaker 4: when you talked about the comeback win for the Jets

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Speaker 4: and you holding up like the kids and everyone embracing that,

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Speaker 4: that kind of gave me the feels a little bit

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Speaker 4: like I was on that roller coaster ride with you,

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Speaker 4: not as you know, as you were, but I just

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Speaker 2: You got to take a nod from your captain, Robert Sally.

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Speaker 2: He's back in there the next morning talking up. He

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Speaker 2: is great leadership.

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Speaker 1: And I want to thank everyone.

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Speaker 3: I got like a ton of whether it was listeners

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Speaker 1: It was all very nice because people people get it.

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Speaker 3: And uh and yes, uh now we move forward uh

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Speaker 3: as as as.

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Speaker 2: We must, as we must, life goes on and uh.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on today's show by the way I like

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Speaker 3: this one. Greg, you threw it out there. I was

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Speaker 3: looked at with one eye in between depression sleeves. You mentioned,

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Speaker 3: what what's our segment today?

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Speaker 2: Only bad questions? I thought it was no dumb question,

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Speaker 2: no dumb question. I don't even remember dumb questions.

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Speaker 5: I was told only dumb quest only dumb.

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Speaker 2: Question, only dumb question. No, that was it, and that

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Speaker 2: was are they dumb questions necessarily? Well, we'll find out,

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Speaker 2: like that's what they say, there are no dumb questions.

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Speaker 2: But in this segment, we're going to try to come

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Speaker 2: up with some dumb questions. And you see, that's that's

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Speaker 2: my love language. I didn't send you a nice text,

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Speaker 2: which actually I didn't send you a nice text. Now

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Speaker 2: I feel bad about it. Oh, thank you. I didn't

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Speaker 2: send you like I feel bad of But you know,

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Speaker 2: I knew this was this wasn't going to be a

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Speaker 2: was very But that's love language. That's good, that's sweet.

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Speaker 3: Like the text, I wasn't waiting for you like when

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Speaker 3: is Greg and the send like, hey, how you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't need that, right, That's what he's.

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Speaker 4: An active service kind of guy. That's the that's the

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Speaker 1: Your therapist is really making sides of Suzanne.

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I could go on and all.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of therapists, Packers fans need one after a bunch

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Speaker 3: of them rolled into a bar in Milwaukee thinking, according

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Speaker 3: to this promotion, hey Jets lose, you win, bar handles

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Speaker 1: Let's do some news. We're just gonna keep going.

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Speaker 6: Another condition is Aaron Rodgers must start the game, but

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Speaker 6: the rules say nothing about him having to finish it.

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Speaker 6: So there's a loud roar when Rogers leaves the game

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Speaker 6: hurt in the first par Fans say, it's nothing personal.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not necessarily opposed to Rogers, but tonight

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Speaker 3: Nice good human stuff, good human stuff from Packers fans.

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Speaker 3: Let's get the PostScript on that little story from the tavern.

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Speaker 2: And the mood has changed considerably.

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Speaker 7: That is because the Jets just won the game on

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Speaker 7: a long touchdown in overtime.

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Speaker 2: You could take a look.

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Speaker 7: This is the reaction to the bar where people are

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Speaker 7: realizing the bar tabs they've been racking up all night thinking,

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Speaker 7: certainly with Rogers hurt, it is setting in they were gonna.

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Speaker 2: Have to go to the bar and pay that tab.

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Speaker 2: Pay up, so good, pay up. Oh, you got to

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Speaker 2: watch the YouTube of this one, just so you can

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Speaker 2: see the look on the face of the reporter.

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Speaker 3: It was just what about the guy in the background

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Speaker 3: holding his hands over the face like he just witnessed.

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Speaker 5: Not good I missed local news.

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Speaker 3: Bad job by this pack, CBS fifty eight news in

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee with the credit there, Good job by them, all right.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Robert Sala, let's check in with him. Of course,

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Speaker 3: the Jets were seen by many as a potential Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl team, and now most people, including the Desert Greggy,

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Speaker 3: mostly writing them off as a team that can't get

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Speaker 3: it done with the Zach Wilson instead of Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Saul had to say on Tuesday.

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Speaker 8: I don't know why people are trying to put an

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Speaker 8: obituary under our team name. You know, it's Aaron is

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Speaker 8: an unbelievable piece to this whole thing, and we love them,

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Speaker 8: but I think there's fifty two other guys in the

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Speaker 8: that we can do hell of a lot of good

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Speaker 8: things here. And we're excited about our group. We've worked

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Speaker 8: hard over the last couple of years, players, coaches, Scouts,

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Speaker 8: GM building a pretty cool organization. And so there's still

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Speaker 8: a lot of faith in the locker room on the

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Speaker 8: things that we can still accomplish this here. So it's

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Speaker 8: while the outside world can go ahead and write whatever

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Speaker 8: story they want to write, there's still the true story

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you don't even know I have merch.

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Speaker 2: That is the goal. That's a reasonable five hour go.

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Speaker 1: I just had a tremor in my hands. Everything's fine,

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Speaker 2: You noted. Yeah, the Desert downgraded their Super Bowl odds.

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Speaker 1: I watched those games this week, and that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Way out of the giant. Hey, Patriots out gained the

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Speaker 3: We have a bunch of Wednesdays are new and by

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Speaker 3: the way, Colleen, Yeah, we got Colleen Steam music at

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to both.

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Speaker 2: Let's find for some of that find for today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Try not to talk over Colleen Steam.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was much longer.

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Speaker 4: That's good, you know what. That's great because it's just

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right, so we have four games to get to.

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Speaker 1: I hate it. I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I can work on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand, listen, I understand that we work for

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Speaker 2: I just would be in favor of it if they

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Speaker 3: I love my company, hate the decision making on this one.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's get to our sag that Greg

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Speaker 1: Like as an obvious I'm.

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Speaker 2: Curious what years are going to be now, because yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's only dumb questions. I mean, people say there are

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Speaker 3: I am. I look at it as like the Bengals

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Speaker 3: have an issue with the Browns. So before I start

445
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: to panic in now camp, fingers at the head coach.

446
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Speaker 3: Let's let this thing breathe a little.

447
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Speaker 4: It's Week one, which Week one is always bloky division games.

448
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 4: You never know what's going to happen.

449
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Speaker 2: Well, especially in that matchup, you kind of do the Browns.

450
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm that's true.

451
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Speaker 4: But in general, Week one is sort of the defenses

452
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 4: are always ahead of the offenses because of the way

453
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Speaker 4: that the preseason kind of everyone approaches the preseason. So

454
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Speaker 4: I felt like the defenses this year in Week one

455
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Speaker 4: delivered over offenses in general. But think about some of

456
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Speaker 4: the teams that have had the most success, like the Patriots,

457
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Speaker 4: they always started slow right when they would have their runs,

458
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Speaker 4: and the Bengals have exactly and Joe Burrow, he's coming

459
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 4: back from the calf injury. Still, the conditions were bad outside,

460
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 4: the weather was terrible. These guys didn't get any time

461
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Speaker 4: together in the preseason, so just.

462
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Speaker 2: Give it a beat, okay, And they started. I actually

463
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: went back and checked this. They were dead last and

464
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 2: offensive DVOA through two weeks a year ago. Really, so

465
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Speaker 2: they Joe Burrow missed all the preseason a year ago,

466
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Speaker 2: and so I get all that. But my case of why,

467
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: maybe it's not. The dumbest question ever is just this

468
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: is year three of all this together. Te Higgins wants

469
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: a new contract. Jamar Chase is there. The offensive line,

470
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: especially on the interior, really struggled there and maybe it

471
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Speaker 2: was just a week one thing. I just think this

472
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Speaker 2: offense needs to be special. They're built at this point

473
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Speaker 2: to be a top three offense for the whole season.

474
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Speaker 2: That's their recipe. I think the defense will be fine,

475
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Speaker 2: but they need to be like elite, elite elite, and

476
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Speaker 2: they've put a lot of tape out there the last

477
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Speaker 2: couple of years, and I'm just saying they're in a

478
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Speaker 2: tough division. A lot of teams have going to be

479
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: adjusting to them. Is Zach Taylor the guy to bring

480
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: them through whatever troubles they have this year and come

481
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Speaker 2: up with all the answers to make them illegally? Because

482
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Speaker 2: to me, if they're the ninth best offense in the

483
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Speaker 2: league this year, that's not gonna be good enough.

484
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Speaker 5: So you don't think that he's the guy.

485
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just asking a dumb question.

486
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Speaker 1: Well, you've never really been in on Zach Taylor in general.

487
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Speaker 1: Let's face it.

488
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Speaker 3: I think you've had doubts, and that's okay, but sometimes

489
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Speaker 3: not the first time you've said sometimes it's players, not plays.

490
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Speaker 5: Well, I have I have a question, a dumb question.

491
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Speaker 4: The kind of dovetails nicely after that because talking about

492
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Speaker 4: els dumb right exactly, Normally my dumb questions I just

493
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Speaker 4: go straight to Google. So my Google search is just

494
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Speaker 4: like a nightmare. But are we really thinking the preseason approach?

495
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Speaker 4: Are teams actually going to change what they do in

496
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Speaker 4: the preseason run because we just talked about it with

497
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Speaker 4: the Bengals, and not that Joe Burrow could have been

498
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Speaker 4: involved with the calf, but the Eagles, for instance, who

499
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Speaker 4: came out and played so flat against the Patriots. Even

500
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Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni after the game said that he wrote in

501
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Speaker 4: his little notebook that he's going to play the starters

502
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Speaker 4: more in the preseason next year. But that is the

503
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Speaker 4: thing that we hear all the time. Did it really

504
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Speaker 4: make a difference? Does it make a difference?

505
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Speaker 3: Burrow said as much, and he lamented after the game, like,

506
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Speaker 3: you know, I wish I was with the guys in

507
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Speaker 3: the weeks leading up to the season, but the injury

508
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Speaker 3: kept him off the field. So yeah, whether they I

509
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Speaker 3: don't know what you think playing more in the preseason,

510
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Speaker 3: I say no, But I see why they think that

511
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Speaker 3: when Week one doesn't go their way.

512
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Speaker 2: Right, because you could look at the two teams that

513
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Speaker 2: I associated with playing a lot in the preseason, the

514
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Speaker 2: Chiefefs and the Steelers didn't have great week ones. I mean,

515
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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and the Steelers scored a touchdown on every

516
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Speaker 2: possession they played in the preseason. I do think there

517
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Speaker 2: is something to play in football before having to play

518
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Speaker 2: that much football. And I get the injury concerns, like

519
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: no one seems that concern that half the league's out

520
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: for a month with a hamstring injury after Week one.

521
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that there would have been prevented by

522
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Speaker 2: playing in the preseason or not. Just that, like lots

523
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Speaker 2: of injuries happen in practice too, and it's football and

524
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Speaker 2: you can't totally.

525
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Speaker 4: And the Rams they never play starters in the preseason, right, they.

526
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Speaker 2: Look good and they look good. So I do wonder.

527
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Speaker 2: I feel like that toothpaste is not going back into

528
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Speaker 2: the tube, that preseason is always now gonna be pretty useless,

529
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Speaker 2: and it's and it's pretty much continued to go in

530
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Speaker 2: that direction even more teams than ever this year didn't

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Speaker 2: play play guys.

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Speaker 3: I had one of the kind of dumb tails off yoursils.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

534
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Speaker 3: I call a little bit just like a feeling just

535
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Speaker 3: through following the league for many many years that I'm

536
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: watching that Eagles Patriots game and I'm thinking myself, is

537
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: it gonna be totally stunning if without their play caller

538
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Speaker 3: of a year ago and all the magic of twenty

539
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Speaker 3: twenty two are the Eagles? Is this going to be

540
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Speaker 3: a trend this year where it's just not coming as

541
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Speaker 3: easy to the Eagles? And you look at the drive

542
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 3: charts from that game, and you factor in that there

543
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: was a pick six early on. The Eagles did not

544
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Speaker 3: move the ball well. They struggled to do the things

545
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Speaker 3: that looked just so easy last year. You already had

546
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Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift kind of lifting his eyebrows about eyebrow about

547
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Speaker 3: not getting a lot of touches, like, is this going

548
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Speaker 3: to be a season that it's not? They're just not

549
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Speaker 3: going to steamroll like they did a year ago. Listen,

550
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Speaker 3: Is that a dumb question?

551
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Speaker 4: Yes, it is a dumb question, because are we saying

552
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Speaker 4: that about the Chiefs?

553
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Speaker 5: Are we saying that about the Bills.

554
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Speaker 2: Are we saying that.

555
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Speaker 5: True?

556
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Speaker 3: They still got their play caller, they still got Pat Mahomes,

557
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Speaker 3: and they didn't have Travis Kelce.

558
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Speaker 1: Not worried about the Chiefs as an example.

559
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Okay, that's fair, that's fine. I'm not worried

560
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Speaker 4: about the Eagles. I think that Yeah, they looked absolutely

561
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Speaker 4: flat and maybe maybe they just didn't take this as

562
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Speaker 4: seriously because everything seemed to come so easily to them

563
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: last year except in that final game against the Chiefs.

564
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Speaker 4: But the play caller situation, he's been with the team

565
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Speaker 4: for three years. Brian Johnson, their offensive coordinator, like they

566
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Speaker 4: he has a relationship with Jalen Hurts. He's known him

567
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Speaker 4: since Jalen was five years old. Like these two, they

568
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 4: obviously have a rapport and it just seems like they

569
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Speaker 4: just have a lot of things that they need to

570
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Speaker 4: clean up. And we'll get to a lot of those

571
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Speaker 4: when we do the Thursday night previews since they're playing

572
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Speaker 4: the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean the Eagles offense, they it looked terrible.

574
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it was just because

575
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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick has such a good defense and guys like

576
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: Kean White were making a which should be a good

577
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: Eagles offensive line look a little shaky, and the protection

578
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: for Jalen Hurts just wasn't there. But it was bad.

579
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Speaker 4: I mean four for thirteen on third down conversions. That's

580
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Speaker 4: awful and inexcusable.

581
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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

582
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Speaker 2: I think the way Dan phrased it, it's not a

583
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: dumb question at all. It's actually quite natural. Because even

584
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: in uh, what why are you laughing?

585
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Colleen? Just like what was he about to say? He's

586
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: gonna put anxiety bit.

587
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Speaker 3: Teresa? Like what did Greg say this time? There's not

588
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: a therapist in the South, And like what did Greg

589
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: say this time?

590
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Speaker 5: And how did it make it?

591
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Let's work through it.

592
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Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the Eagles. I picked them to

593
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl this year. But the way Dan

594
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: phrased the question, is it going to be tougher tougher

595
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: sledding throughout this season? That's how the NFL usually works.

596
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: I guess that's where I was going with the Bengals too.

597
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: Like these teams towards the top, with the exception of

598
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: the Brady Patriots, the Manning Colts, the Rogers Packers. For

599
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Speaker 2: the most part, there are exceptions that stay in the

600
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Speaker 2: top three to four seeds almost every year. It's just

601
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: hard to keep staying there each and every season. And

602
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles can ultimately, but I think having

603
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: a bumpy ride, certainly bumpier than a year ago. The schedule,

604
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: everything is totally natural, and we'll test, We'll test them.

605
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean I'm giving up faith in them, but I

606
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: think I'll test them.

607
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Speaker 3: It's not like I don't think the Eagles are cooked

608
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: or anything. I think it's a full off season of

609
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: all their opponents, including the division opponents, really studying what

610
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Speaker 3: they did last year. It's a guy like Belichick having

611
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: the summer to get ready for that game. It's just

612
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: they're not gonna take people by surprise. Here is that

613
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: drive chart, by the way. So they jump out three

614
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: to nothing, then they get the pick six, it's ten

615
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: to nothing. Then they have a short field and they

616
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: go twenty six yards and make sixteen nothing against the Eagles.

617
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: After that, three and out, three and out, three and out,

618
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: three and out. After halftime, they have a play a

619
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Speaker 3: field goal drive, long goal drive, buch a long field goal,

620
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: field goal drive, and then when it was close out time.

621
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Speaker 1: That was what really kind of last year. They just

622
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: closed teams out.

623
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Speaker 2: Felt like they just hung on fumble bad.

624
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts fumble where it doesn't do that or unless

625
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: it's the Super Bowl down and gave the Pats one

626
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: more chance.

627
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Speaker 1: So not a great offensive effort. Let's see what they

628
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Speaker 1: look like.

629
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Speaker 4: You know what, You're right, because I was thinking during

630
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: this game, like why aren't they going to Dallas Goddard,

631
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: Like he had zero catches in this game, He didn't

632
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: get his first target until the fourth quarter.

633
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: He needs to be involved in the offense. He's so good.

634
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: There was just a lot of questionable decisions.

635
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: They didn't get inside the Patriots thirty after their first

636
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: drive of the game, other than when they turned it

637
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: over that that one time. So that that's like ten

638
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: straight drives not inside the thirty. And what you hit

639
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: on with Swift and then you just did with Godard.

640
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: I actually think that's the number one thing that's going

641
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: to be most difficult to manage. I actually had the

642
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that maybe they didn't add like a really

643
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: high level third receiver this year draft one just because

644
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be tough to keep a j Brown.

645
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith got her everyone happy, and that is something

646
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: to manage when you have players that are all that good.

647
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Speaker 4: Even last year is a nice problem that week one

648
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: last year when A. J. Brown had just gotten to Philly.

649
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: DeVante Smith had zero catches.

650
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Speaker 5: In that game.

651
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: I don't even know how many times he was targeted,

652
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: but he was not involved at all. And so they

653
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: fixed it. They they pivoted and moved on the off season.

654
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: You ala keep cracking up four hundred and fifty yards

655
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Speaker 2: a game to keep everyone happy like that.

656
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the annoyed T Swift quote was like someone asked.

657
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Speaker 3: The reporter asked, Sirianni, Hey, two touches for Swift in

658
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Speaker 3: this game, is like, that's not something that we intend

659
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Speaker 3: to do. And then Swift was told about it and goes, oh,

660
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Speaker 3: that's the first thing I heard that.

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Speaker 2: So there's just like Swift Swift, d Swift. T Swift

662
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Speaker 2: is making some football news too. But we'll get back.

663
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that later sometime this week. Go ahead, Greg, Oh, wait,

664
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Speaker 2: I had I had a fun dumb question. All right,

665
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask a dumb question after watching Dolphins and

666
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Chargers over the weekend. I don't want to be a

667
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: prisoner at the moment, but is it a dumb question

668
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: to say that Tua tongue of vloa actually fits Mike

669
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: what Mike McDaniel wants to do, maybe better than Justin

670
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Herbert even you know, I I am mister Justin Herbert

671
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: in a vacuum. I would take Justin Herbert ten times

672
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: out of ten, and you got you gotta worry about

673
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: what Tua is health wise and stuff. But just for

674
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 2: that specific offense, kind of the McDaniel shanahan offense, is

675
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 2: Tua kind of the the perfect guy for that specific offense,

676
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: which is just get through your reads, get rid of

677
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: the ball as quickly as possible.

678
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: He kind of looks like it, at least he did there.

679
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: I cannot believe dumb questions.

680
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe that's you know what enough, it's kind

681
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: of an obvious one, right, he's a perfect.

682
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: Well we were got to do one dumb question. You

683
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: said to to make a second one. It fell apart.

684
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: If that guy a five hour energy show, it works,

685
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: it works, okay, perfect, All right, here's a dumb question.

686
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: Then no, you can't get no, you just did one. Okay,

687
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: well I would sign it. He's done. I was choosing

688
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: to go ahead Colleen, but that's really good. Yeah, okay,

689
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: you have one that you like, Colleen.

690
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 5: I do have one. I actually I need to write.

691
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: I wrote this down on a piece of paper last

692
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: night because I was like, you know what, I need

693
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: to throw this out to the group.

694
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: So there was a.

695
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Speaker 4: Movie shooting at our house. Our friends were shooting a

696
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: movie for a couple of days, and actually the radio

697
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: voice of the Titans, Mike Keith, his son Matt Keith,

698
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: was there as a script supervisor. Oho, who oh my god,

699
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: lovely that whole family. I just like shout out to them.

700
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: But when they brought in all of the food for

701
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: everyone that was there, it was a lot of Panda

702
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: Express for one of the nights. So I just was wondering,

703
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: do just Panda Express also give you guys nightmares?

704
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so we're off the beaten path, like actual

705
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: eating it makes me nightmares.

706
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 5: Like nightmare fuel.

707
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 9: Never never like sort of msg that gives you driving

708
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 9: one hundred miles an hour up a one way street

709
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 9: covered in snow on a windy breaks.

710
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Speaker 2: You're blaming that on the Express, not thinking about the

711
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: extra work that you have to do with Stephanie or

712
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: who is it Samantha Suan. I have never clocked it,

713
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: but it's possible. I haven't had it since it's been

714
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: a while. It's been a while, it's been since. Like

715
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Speaker 2: it's right across the street. For this is like the

716
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: second type in Express come up recently, right across the

717
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: street from my kids elementary school. So I smell it,

718
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: uh huh quite often, the waft of it, and I

719
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: don't I don't want it. There's too much good Chinese

720
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Speaker 2: food around. I don't want it.

721
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Speaker 3: You know, Well, that's interesting because I kind of the

722
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: growing up in New York, the cheap Chinese.

723
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Speaker 5: Food was so Chinese food's the best.

724
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: But food not here, and Panda Express falls under this.

725
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't have a craving for Panda Express,

726
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: and then when I have Chinese food like that takeout

727
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: Chinese food here, it's like, what is this trying to be?

728
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: Because this is not what it's like back on the

729
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: other side of the country. So I don't really have

730
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: a big connection. By the way, my nightmares are a

731
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: little different. Mine always are rooted, and they make them

732
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: more terrifying. They're more rooted in a sense of reality,

733
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Speaker 3: such as the one I had last night because we

734
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: were talking about a potential trip to London for the podcast,

735
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: and I had a nightmare that I'm at the airport

736
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: and we're getting on the plane and then I don't

737
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: have my passport.

738
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Speaker 1: Well, that kind of like the ones.

739
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Speaker 2: That literally that happened. Happened almost you one day one

740
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: time we were going to London. You were on the

741
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: way there and realized you didn't have a passport, and

742
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: then Emily had to bring it to the airport. Am

743
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: I right?

744
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: That was like some other weird card or something we needed.

745
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't the passport. I think it was like a

746
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: VAX card or some erroneous I will say, though it perfect.

747
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: One of the others I had was you guys were

748
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 4: all in it and Patrick Claybon and I told Clayvon

749
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: this yesterday when I saw him in the garage, that

750
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: we all quit to become construction workers.

751
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is there is, there's a honesty to

752
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Speaker 2: that work.

753
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: That's like at the end of Office Space, That's what

754
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: the main character went into.

755
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: He just said, I'm gonna going to do construction. Yeahing

756
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: wrong with that?

757
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: All right? I got a dumb question.

758
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: Are the Chicago Bear is going to have the first

759
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: overall pick again, can I I want to pull up.

760
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: I want to pull up something that's been going around

761
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: the web on social media here, and it is Chase

762
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: Claypool's effort level in week one against the rival Packers.

763
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Speaker 2: Do we have that?

764
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Steelers fans have been talking about this all.

765
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: Remember the Bears traded away a high value.

766
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: Draft picked at the top of the second round.

767
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: Right, what do we got? Let's just keep an eye

768
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: on this. There is a lot of outside perimeter blocking

769
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: that he is opting out of entirely.

770
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: He also was targeted twice without a catch.

771
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: He went into the tent a couple of times, but

772
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: has no injury designation, and notably, Matt Eberflus would not

773
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: commit to him being active for week two.

774
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Now a couple other things.

775
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: Here is reporting from Dan Whiderer, who covers the Bears

776
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: beat reporter for the Tribune. Justin Fields acknowledged in his

777
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: words that the offense was quote two conservative, with taking

778
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: chances down the field against the Packers. Asked asked why,

779
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: Field shrugged, I'm not sure. I don't know. And then

780
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: finally this note from again Weirderer, I hope I'm pronouncing

781
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: that right. In my time covering the NFL, I can't

782
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: really remember a time where on a Wednesday of Week

783
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: two a building seems so apparently shaken by and or

784
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: short on answers for what happened in Week one. That

785
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: is to me a huge red flag. That is a

786
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: coaching staff that we had questions about entering the season.

787
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: That is a team that laid a major Week one egg.

788
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: We talked about how important that game was for the

789
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: organization post Aaron Rodgers with the Packers at home after

790
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: all the money and resources that came into that roster

791
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: to flatline in that game, you wonder if the I

792
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: got I'll just ask you, you wonder if the coaching staff

793
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: has its arms around this team and have the ability

794
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: to get them out of this funk.

795
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 5: I mean, do you think that they'll be worse than

796
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 5: the Cardinals?

797
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: Is it a dumb question to ask that this is

798
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: a potential train wreck and.

799
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: Anything after one week doesn't feel it feels like, yes,

800
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: that's dumb to throw them up to the bus. But

801
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: I am also the same person who went in on

802
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: their under seven and a half and thought they had

803
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: a ways to go. When we did that over Under

804
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: pod with Bill Barnwell, and that was the most concerning

805
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: Week one game, whereas I took an early look at

806
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: the old schedule, just keep an eye on Locks because

807
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: you know, we got these prime time games to get

808
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 2: to kind of consider it even earlier. And I was like, hmm,

809
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: the Bucks at home against the Bears, is that a

810
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: game you would look at. It's like, if you had

811
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: told me I would be considering locking up the Bucks

812
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: in Week two, that's a bad sign for the Bears.

813
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not.

814
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: I actually was even thinking about, for a dumb question,

815
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: will the Bears ever be good again? That's I feel

816
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 4: like every year I want them to be. They should be.

817
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: I was talking up DJ Moore and DJ Moore and

818
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: Chase Claypool were both complete non factors in this game.

819
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: It's early, it's possible, and they have a great Week

820
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: two opponent to try to get off the schneid. Yeah,

821
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: make you feel better, but there is something to the

822
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: fact when you when you're the head coach and you

823
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: have the same coordinator in the same quarterback and you've

824
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: lost eleventh straight games. I mean, I know it's one season,

825
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: it's a new season, but that that's something.

826
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: That's fair, Dog, that's fair.

827
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: All right, do you want to let's go, Let's take

828
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: a break and then we'll hit the previews starting week

829
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: two primetime games. That right, we're back. I'm back, let's go.

830
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 3: Everything is okay, everything's fine.

831
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're your team is not involved in

832
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: this super sized Wednesday primetime preview. I guess every every

833
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: week we have London games though, too, we'll have an

834
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: extra game.

835
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that?

836
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the Thursday night football contest. First,

837
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings. Oh, the Minnesota Vikings really tripped on

838
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: their own wires in Week one against the Bucks, finding

839
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: a way to lose that game at home, bad turnovers,

840
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: couldn't get the big stop at the end to get

841
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: the ball back, and the Bucks escape with a one

842
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: point win. Now the reward, Greggie, is they go to

843
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: Philly to face the Eagles, who, as we just talked about,

844
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: didn't have a great Week one, especially on offense, but

845
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: their home and I do remember, Greg how the Vikings

846
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: and specifically Kirk Cousins played in primetime against Philly one

847
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: year ago around this.

848
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Time, either that was Week two or Week three, that's

849
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: exactly week two. Okay, so I believe that wasn Now

850
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: we're here Thursday night. But that is such a tough

851
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: ask and to uh spin it a little positive for

852
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: the Eagles. They have to be so excited about what

853
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: they got out of their Georgia Bulldog. Oh yeah, Jalen

854
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: Carter in Week.

855
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: One, my defensive Rookie of the Year pick.

856
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, had eight pressures. And oh, by the way, his

857
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: old college teammate Jordan Davis had the best game of

858
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: his career. Second year player, if you remember, an enormous

859
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: man who certainly had a slow start to his career,

860
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: was only getting ten to fifteen snaps per game. They

861
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: had to sign some guys. He played thirty five steps,

862
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: he had a fourth one, he had a sec. He

863
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: was very active. And I think of those two guys,

864
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: and I think these guys are gonna be a problem.

865
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: And oh, who are they playing this week? The team

866
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: that gave up more interior pressures than any team in

867
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Speaker 2: the NFL, who had Kirk Cousins getting killed all last year,

868
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: and who didn't make any changes to their interior line.

869
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: It's actually the exact same three guys. And what did

870
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: you see in that Tampa game. You saw a lot

871
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: of pressure up the middle, you saw them sending a

872
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: lot of blitz I could see the Eagles being creative.

873
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: I can see them not needing to be creative because

874
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Carter and Davis are getting after I think it's a

875
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: very positive sign for.

876
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 4: The And the Vikings already ruled out their center, Garrett Bradberry,

877
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: so that's a huge huge factor in this.

878
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: I know it was probably the best of their three guys.

879
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Their two guards especially really struggle.

880
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: The Eagles line is just so talented, like no matter

881
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 4: how you spin it, you're not going to be able

882
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 4: to double everyone there. And Jalen Carter was absolutely that

883
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 4: dude in this game. He was a force working against

884
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: the Patriots guards who aren't that great, but still he was.

885
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: He looked really, really good.

886
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 4: But when you think about the game last year against

887
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 4: the Vikings and how bad the Vikings look, the one

888
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: thing that's really different this year is the defensive coordinator

889
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: and the way that Brian Flores runs things because he

890
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: blitzes so much. And that's one of the things that

891
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: I'll be watching because Jalen hurts. He was blitzed a

892
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: lot in the game against the Patriots, and he you know,

893
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: he was all right. I thought the offensive line didn't

894
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: hold up as well as it normally does, but they

895
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: were in a lot of situations where they were in

896
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: obvious passing situations, in a lot of long third downs.

897
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 4: I mean, they got to be better on those early downs.

898
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: But this is I mean, they need to improve in that.

899
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: But obviously Ed Donna Tell, who was the defensive coordinator

900
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 4: for the Vikings last year, he didn't blitz nearly as much.

901
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: Rype of Flores led the league, and how many times

902
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: he blitzed last week. But they only had two quarterback

903
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: hits on Baker True holds the ball a little it

904
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: so that's a little concerning, like they might not have

905
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: the jew and theer a risk taking defense. I just

906
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: they need to get a more is what I'm saying.

907
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: If you're a Vikings fan, I've seen Kirk Cousins play

908
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: great games. I've seen him play bad games.

909
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: We all have.

910
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: I've never seen him look as shook as he did.

911
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: Hmm that game and you go back, you look at

912
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: his box score. I don't even need to, but I

913
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: know it was bad. If you watch the tape, I

914
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 3: remember he probably could have thrown two or three more

915
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: interceptions that even got credited with.

916
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: He was completely shook, and.

917
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: I m.

918
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I did Thursday Night football lock last week, and.

919
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: It's not lockable.

920
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? That's not what I'm seeing.

921
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's go with DraftKings as our official.

922
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you know these lines move sometimes. I look at

923
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: him at one point and I see a big honkin

924
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: seven and it's down to six.

925
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna grab the Eagles.

926
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: Listen, this is the mirror, a little foggy. Give me

927
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: a cut some slack. Okay, it's been a tough week.

928
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: We're going to lock up the Eagles. I don't like

929
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: locking up Thursday. I don't like locking up Thursday night

930
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: games ever, because they're just funky. But I just don't

931
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: love what I saw from the Vikings in Week one.

932
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: Don't love the way Kirk Cousins played last year against

933
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: the same opponent in the same setup. So I think

934
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: the Eagles are going to get me back to five

935
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: hundred in the locks.

936
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, though, I mean, I know that he did

937
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 4: not look good last year against the Eagles. Darius Lay

938
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: completely locked him up. But James Bradberry's and concussion protocol

939
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: on a short week, so they're going to be shorthanded cornerbacks,

940
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 4: so that could be a problem because they also have

941
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: Jordan Adison.

942
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: No, I you know how I don't like doing the

943
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: same because this is probably the best one on the board.

944
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't have any issues with it. I mean, I

945
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: just don't like the feel of it, you know, just

946
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: like es are having different different ones.

947
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't like me taking him by the hand and

948
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: walking with him. He likes to lead with his chest.

949
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: I definitely don't like that either. I did think the

950
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: Vikings offense, despite a few major blunders like the o

951
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: lineman stepping on Cousin's foot in a wacky screenplay like

952
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: they had some pretty big blunders, actually looked like the

953
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: Vikings offense and threw the ball pretty well against Tampa.

954
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: If you can attack Philly, it's in the middle of

955
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: the field. Maybe their safeties they're linebackers, Dean like, That's

956
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: where the Patriots won over and over again. It was

957
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: a good performance by mac Jones for the most part,

958
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: so I think the Vikings could actually move the ball.

959
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't. I that said, I would even take Eagles,

960
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: mindus six. I'd take them to cover. Yeah, I think

961
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: the Vikings were far from hopeless.

962
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: On offense.

963
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: They moved the ball really well, especially through the air.

964
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: Didn't love the running game, didn't have a lot of

965
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: support there, and then just they made a bunch of

966
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: dumb plays that cost him that game.

967
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna lock it up too, wow.

968
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: I mean, guys, hold hands, I can.

969
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: I just know Nick's gonna get after us because you

970
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: have this one.

971
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Now, you have your own stuff with Nick. Don't bring

972
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: me into it with this US stuff. That's you and

973
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: Nick that's you, and Nick Westling that's you.

974
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 5: And we bring in Suzanne for this.

975
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Get her in here, by the way.

976
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: During my deeply unemployed era in the late aughts early ten,

977
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: I interviewed in person like over an hour with TMZ,

978
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: who were launching a sports division. And you know the

979
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: guy that with the dreadlocks, that's like Harvey Levin's guy. Yeah,

980
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: like me and him one on one, just like talking

981
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: for like ninety minutes maybe even it was like a

982
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: long time.

983
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Like, I guess I'm gonna get the job.

984
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: I didn't even really want it, but I needed a job.

985
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, never called me back, that's fine. Whatever I thought

986
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: about that just now when I looked at a text

987
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: you sent last night, headline from TMZ Sports, NFL's Fletcher

988
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: Cox sued, you ruined my marriage when you banged my wife.

989
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: Slammer.

990
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, I did not think this should be

991
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: on the show. This is from when I sent it

992
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: to you guys.

993
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 4: Because I was putting together these notes, I was not thinking,

994
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: and as I mentioned earlier, I asked Google a lot

995
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: of stupid questions and I just typed in Fletcher Cox

996
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: banged up instead of injury or anything like that, and

997
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: that was what.

998
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: Oh, this is from twenty seventeen, and I was like,

999
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: why is my computer doing this?

1000
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: I thought this was like a current events story from

1001
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: the people.

1002
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 5: To years old. It's basically when you were doing the

1003
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 5: TMZ interview, that's what.

1004
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: This was, just a report Greg from TMZ years ago.

1005
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what the outcome was.

1006
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: I was not aware of this. Yeah right, I'm glad

1007
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: that I am.

1008
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm merely.

1009
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: Sending along what was report from a news organization I

1010
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: once interviewed with, and perhaps I'm happy I ended up

1011
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: at a different organization.

1012
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: As it turned.

1013
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: Good, T and f game though, Al's gotta be happy.

1014
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: I know Al was, like, you know, really pumped up

1015
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: that the first Sunday or Thursday Night gave of the

1016
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: year Sunday Night gave. He's just rooting against that, and

1017
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 2: now he's got a hopefully a good one.

1018
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how many years have left on his contract.

1019
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: You never know how much Al Michaels you have left.

1020
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. Let's move to Sunday Night football.

1021
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: But you feel good about the Eagles, right, Yeah?

1022
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 5: If they lose this week, I won't feel good.

1023
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: And I did say the last segment I was a

1024
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: little eye on their offense a little bit. I just

1025
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: think at home in primetime, yeah, they'll be all right.

1026
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: Right. I also thought the Chiefs are gonna be all

1027
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: right in week one.

1028
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: And right now I'm with you.

1029
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna You can't know anything until four

1030
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: weeks have been played.

1031
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 5: That's my rule.

1032
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: Hey, season doesn't start until they after Thanksgiving back after

1033
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: it is all right, let's move to Sunday Night football.

1034
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 2: The game is a good one.

1035
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 5: As I pull it up, it is Dolphins and Patriots.

1036
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: Dolphins and Pats, a great AFC East matchup. I think

1037
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: some people are gonna be a little underwhelmed by this.

1038
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: For instance, how is the Tom Brady ringing this dumbbell

1039
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 3: thing and running on that, which is very cool. If

1040
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: I was a Patriots fan, I'd love him with a

1041
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: jersey on for the first time. How's that not the

1042
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: Sunday night halftime the Week one?

1043
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: What's fine? Whatever?

1044
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: But the way they played on defense, Connie, the Pats

1045
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: make me think this is a great, great game, because, yes,

1046
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: the Dolphins were unstoppable in Week one, but there's a

1047
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: difference between the Chargers at home with Brandon Staley and

1048
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: all the letdown juice that admits from every pore that

1049
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: they have, and Bill Belichick in prime time in his backyard.

1050
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: I'm Bill, and I'm gonna take care of business. It

1051
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: is gonna be different tho dime around.

1052
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 5: Do you better be careful to see the game last night?

1053
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: See the game? Did you watch a game one one day? Yeah?

1054
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 5: The Patriots defense looked great.

1055
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 4: Shocker that Bill Belichick's defense played really well and had

1056
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: a nice start there. They held the Eagles to nine

1057
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 4: points after the first quarter, which we talked about before,

1058
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: limited the Eagles to two hundred and fifty one total yards.

1059
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: I mean, but Tua and Tyreek like Ken, I would

1060
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: love to see. I can't wait to see how they

1061
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: play this game and if they can limit Tyreek Hill

1062
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: because it seems like he is someone that you absolutely

1063
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 4: can't I mean, he he played what he had two

1064
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen receiving yards in this game. And then

1065
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 4: even Tua when he threw that interception in the game

1066
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 4: against the Chargers, he wasn't frazzled at all. He came

1067
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: right back and went deep again to Tyreek, so it

1068
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: was like no problem for him. He was completely unfazed.

1069
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 4: But I think the biggest thing that I'm watching for

1070
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: the Dolphins defensively, can they clean things up and like

1071
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: really play up to the potential that they have, because

1072
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: the Dolphins gave up four hundred and thirty three yards

1073
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: thirty four points to the Chargers. Like I want to

1074
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 4: know if maybe the Patriots run game will actually come

1075
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: alive considering what this Dolphins run defense looked like against

1076
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: the Chargers. They were completely bolded by the way, and

1077
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: it was weird. It was just weird to see in

1078
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: that you looked.

1079
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of zeke. I mean they as

1080
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned the guards that they had a bunch of injuries.

1081
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 5: They didn't even start their two.

1082
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: Rookie guards, Tonio Maffi and cityso playing the guard position.

1083
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: Calvin and Anderson kind of a retread who was on

1084
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: the NFI list for most of the preseason, started right tackle.

1085
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: They're playing to Mario Douglas, a late round pick. They're

1086
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: playing Kendrick Bourne more than Juju Smith Schuster. I mean

1087
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: not Kendrick Bourne. They're playing Kaishon Boody more than Juju

1088
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 2: Smith Schuster, an undrafted rookie. They got Zeke out there,

1089
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: you got Time Montgomery. It's like the talent's not great,

1090
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: and yet I came away from that game being like

1091
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien got guys open. That was the best Mac

1092
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Jones game. I mean, Mac Jones was way up and

1093
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: way down. He was third in the NFL last week

1094
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: in big time throws only behind Tua in Matthew Stafford.

1095
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: He was third in the NFL and turnover worthy plays.

1096
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: So it was like a big ups and downs Mac.

1097
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: But at least he got some ups. He didn't have

1098
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: that last year.

1099
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 5: My first drive was brutal.

1100
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: I think that the Dolphins, to your point, will kind

1101
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: of invite them to run that's what Panjo does, and

1102
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: I think Belichick will be happy to they try to.

1103
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 3: Belichick's defense last year held the Dolphins under a three

1104
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: hundred and forty yards total in both games.

1105
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: The second time, I think there was no two to it.

1106
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: I went and looked too that. I think two has

1107
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: played them three.

1108
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 5: Times in four times that has won all four.

1109
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: And his numbers have been low. I just think that's

1110
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: going to be the storyline of one. I think that's

1111
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: the storyline of this game. I think people are going

1112
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 2: to be expecting the Dolphins to carve again.

1113
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be that type of game.

1114
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 3: And if they if they come out of this game

1115
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: in this environment, and I'm not really high on the Pats,

1116
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: but I feel like this is set up well for

1117
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: them to get a win and get back to five hundred.

1118
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins win a different type of game here

1119
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: where they're able to kind of go a little more

1120
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: smash mouth, hit passes and crunch time that are just

1121
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: you're not running all over the field uncovered, and they

1122
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: get out of here with like a twenty seventeen win,

1123
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, all right, now, we're really starting

1124
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: to talk.

1125
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: With the Dopins, I think they could win in different ways.

1126
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: The Mac Jones side of it, I yeah, he was

1127
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: very watching him this morning, very up and down.

1128
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: There was a pass.

1129
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: Overall I would say quite good. That would have been

1130
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: as one of it. That would have been his best

1131
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 2: game is aline. He's definitely on my radar. That's not great.

1132
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: It's there are balls that like there was a ball

1133
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: late and I think maybe it was Kendrick Bourne. Maybe

1134
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: Bourne should have caught it, but the ball kind of

1135
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: just floats in there.

1136
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: Oh he got hit.

1137
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 3: That was one of his best throws that I paid

1138
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: another one he got hit in the head where he

1139
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: threw one and crunch time a big spot in the

1140
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 3: game and it got almost intercepted at the line of

1141
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: scrimmaging to get away with it. So yeah, I'm not

1142
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sold on Mac and know you see him

1143
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: as a bounce back guy this year. I think it's

1144
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: going to be a lower scoring game and I think

1145
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: that's what we're going to be talking about on Monday Night,

1146
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: that the Dolphins didn't have their way.

1147
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: Now do they still find a way to win.

1148
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: I hate this spot for the Patriots because I think

1149
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are really good. They had sixteen explosives last week.

1150
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: That was the second most. I used this stat on

1151
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: our NFL Plus rewatch of Chargers Dolphins, and everyone should

1152
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: check out shoot that on NFL Plus. That was fun.

1153
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: Tu It just was so good. He was the best

1154
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: quarterback in the League's placement, his creativity, his deep stuff,

1155
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: like he looked like a guy ready to take the

1156
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: next step. And that worries me because the weird reaction in Foxborough.

1157
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: It was like they won this game. Everyone in New

1158
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: England is all fired up. It's like the most the

1159
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: biggest moral victory party I've ever seen. I'm very surprised

1160
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: by this because I looked at it and I was like,

1161
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: you got to take advantage when you outplay the opponent,

1162
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: which I think they did against the Eagles. Overall, you

1163
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: outgained him by one for it. You got to take

1164
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: advantage of that because you're not necessarily going to play

1165
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: at that level every week, and you have two straight

1166
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: home games to start the season. If you don't win

1167
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: this one, like that's great, here's your lollipop. You're owen too,

1168
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Like this is almost it's not a must win, but

1169
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: you start at home zero and two, You're you're not

1170
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: gonna be.

1171
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: Because after that they go on against the Jets and

1172
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: the Cowboys.

1173
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Right, So I think it's a big game and they

1174
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: could certainly win it. I think it's a coin flip,

1175
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: but it's a tough, tough one.

1176
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: I you know, I want the Pats to win, so

1177
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: I wanted the well, I want the AFC East to

1178
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: be kind of muddled with everybody like around five hundred

1179
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 3: or one to one. And I don't want the Pats

1180
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: going against the Jets in Week three in cornered animal mode.

1181
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: Oh Belichick being like needing that win, so get a

1182
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 3: nice w here and then no show against the Jets.

1183
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean that Mac Jones just throwing wounded ducks.

1184
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: Across the secondary, like you know, the Jets safety is

1185
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: like genuflecting and doing the sign of the Cross before

1186
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: they get the interception.

1187
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: Mean playing Mac root against the Dolphins because I think

1188
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: they're a big threat to everyone, But don't root for

1189
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: that result because of what you said, because every Jets

1190
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: game is a cornered animal game. To Bill Belichick is

1191
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 2: he's not letting he is not letting Gott. But at

1192
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: this point it just seems like it's they bring out

1193
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: their best stuff.

1194
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: He's a competitor.

1195
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins run rough shot over Belichick in primetime

1196
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: here on the road, that will be I know it's early, Gregy,

1197
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 3: but a major statement.

1198
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I agree.

1199
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: I feel like Belichick will just have like the red

1200
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 5: laser eyes.

1201
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: They've got some weird things going on though, too. They

1202
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: have a lot of guys making a lot of money

1203
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: on their defense AGBA, Bradley Chubb, XAVI and Howard David

1204
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: Long who either didn't play much long in AGBA that

1205
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: was weird or just didn't play well. So they got

1206
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: some They got issues to.

1207
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 4: Work, Greig, I have no idea how you read any

1208
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 4: of your notes. I've never seen handwriting this small in

1209
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 4: my life.

1210
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: I feel like I need a telescope.

1211
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: I got those contacts in you know.

1212
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 5: Wow, you want to do that is impressive.

1213
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: How do you like people looking at your stuff? I'm

1214
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: fine with it your private stuff. Yes, you did mark

1215
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: all the time.

1216
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm good. I want to show my work I have, Yeah,

1217
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: I have no problem. Maybe I'll send it out, send

1218
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: it on on my ig.

1219
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: Little Christian Gonzales one on one of Tyreek. In this Gale,

1220
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 3: he looked I think he looked solid active. I'll give

1221
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: him that, Bill Belichick.

1222
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: He takes away your best weapon. I look, Bill Bilchick

1223
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: has a lot of practice trying to take away Tyreek Hill,

1224
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: a lot of big Chiefs games. Not now twice a

1225
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: year with the Dolphins, I would think they'll do everything

1226
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: possible to uh bracket him and make Jalen Wattle, who's great,

1227
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: and everyone else beat them. They we didn't mention it

1228
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: on the show, but they lost Jack Jones. They're starting

1229
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: cornerback to ir right off the top, so they're a

1230
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: little thinner than they'd like, all right. And then two

1231
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: Monday nights.

1232
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: Monday Night games.

1233
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 3: First one up is Saints at Panthers. Saints laying three

1234
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: points of wood. Here, Colleen on, I'm doing both thing.

1235
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 5: I can do two things at once.

1236
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. For the teams.

1237
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah there, here are the Saints.

1238
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: Now they're coming off at narrow win in Week one

1239
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: over the Titans sixteen to fifteen. You're gonna want to

1240
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: see some more from them, I guess on offense. The Panthers, though,

1241
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: Colleen set up as a nice matchup because that's a

1242
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: team that you kind of want to see more from

1243
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: an offense, But I don't know if they're ready to

1244
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: give you more on offense right now. So maybe another

1245
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: low scoring game, maybe one side of the fair we.

1246
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: Shall see could be.

1247
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: I mean, for Bryce Young, it's his first game at home,

1248
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: his first primetime game. I guess it's nice that it's

1249
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: his second division game in week two. But he needs

1250
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: to limit the turnovers as any young quarterback, as any

1251
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: quarterback in general needs to do. But he was picked

1252
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: off twice last week by Jesse Bates, who looked really good,

1253
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 4: but he did sort of look poised, I thought at moments,

1254
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: and he kind of had a problem because the receivers

1255
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: couldn't really get a ton of separation except on that

1256
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: one where Jonathan Mingo like streaked the length of the

1257
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: field and he completely overshot him on that. So for

1258
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: Bryce Young, it's one week in the NFL, so I'm

1259
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: curious to see how he'll look against the Singhs defense

1260
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: that looked really really good last week, especially that secondary.

1261
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 4: They combined for three interceptions against the Titans. They completely

1262
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: shut down Derek Henry. He couldn't go anywhere. But I mean,

1263
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: there's a lot to kind of unpack with this game.

1264
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a tough ask. I told

1265
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: Eric to get the lock sound ready, cause I was

1266
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: going to lock up the Saints at this spot before

1267
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: Dan alerted me to that would be chessed out a

1268
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: slightly a slightly better option. The only thing that worries

1269
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: me is the Saints always losing this spot. But that

1270
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: was like different coaching staff. They just really have struggled

1271
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 2: beating Carolina, especially in Carolina, and it's a Dennis Allen

1272
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: team that I don't trust. But Bryce Young struggled. Let's

1273
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: be real, two for ten on throws over ten yards

1274
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: with two picks twenty three yards, and marsha On Lattimore,

1275
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: like a lot of cornerbacks, is a little up and down,

1276
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: but man, he has that look this year of a

1277
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: guy that's gonna maybe be in the mix for All

1278
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: Pro first team cornerback. To Mario Davis, I can't. He

1279
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: just gets better and better. It makes no sense. He

1280
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: was dominant last week. And I just I think both

1281
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: offenses could struggle here because Carolina's defense certainly has talent

1282
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: and could look good, could stuff the run. I don't

1283
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: trust the Saints run game, but I think it's just

1284
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. For the Panthers to score all season

1285
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: and especially in this match.

1286
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: This is the second screen game for me. This is

1287
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: the iPad screen game for me on Monday night. But

1288
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: doesn't mean doesn't have value. Move the sticks. I had

1289
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: a good take, and he should. I mean, if he

1290
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 3: just had a platform to share these things, I can't

1291
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: believe that would be a huge mo into his career potentially.

1292
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: But he pointed out that he wasn't happy with the

1293
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: overall game plan and the scheme of the Panthers on

1294
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: offense and week went against the Falcons. They were not

1295
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 3: challenging Atlanta downfield until very late in the game, and

1296
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: he referred I like the way he said he said

1297
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: it was that was half court basketball, twenty two bodies.

1298
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: The safety said, zero fear of anything over the top.

1299
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: They need to take more early shots to expand the

1300
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: field or Bryce is going to have a hard time

1301
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 3: all year. Do they have the dogs to do that?

1302
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not Adam Feelin at this stage. Like

1303
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: who who do you trust in a post Dymour world

1304
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 3: to make those plays?

1305
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: Right?

1306
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: Mingo is a second round pick who's got some vertical ability,

1307
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: but they were using him in a big spot a lot.

1308
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: And that's just it's a lot to ask of a

1309
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: second round pick.

1310
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I don't I don't have.

1311
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 4: I feel like they haven't really set him up yet

1312
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: to really succeed. But the Saints offense, they need to

1313
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 4: protect Derek Carr way better than what they did.

1314
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: That's where the Panthers could win. Maybe.

1315
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he said, and we talked about it on Sunday.

1316
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: That was a very physical Tennessee defense, one of the

1317
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: better defensive lines in the league. He took up beating.

1318
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: And now he's on a short week. But Derek Carr

1319
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: is a tough sob in fact, stick a pin in that.

1320
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: And for you NFL Plus people, we're gonna talk about

1321
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: Derek Carr on our Thursday NFL Plus program. Let's move

1322
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: to the second Monday night football game. I love this one. Greens,

1323
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: love the Browns versus the Steelers at the catch a Bottle.

1324
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: I still call it Hines across Hell. No, I'm not

1325
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: getting no pay check from across sure.

1326
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: Esther, but I like Hines.

1327
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: I do like to catch up if I am at.

1328
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: The store and it is the like the Ralphs brand

1329
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: for two nineteen and then Hines for two thirty nine.

1330
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm paying the extra two.

1331
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: Dimes three nineteen. It's a whole extra dollars.

1332
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 3: Typically not, but then now we're talking we're going over

1333
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: dollar one or nothing.

1334
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's in the Heines family.

1335
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 5: It's got to be right.

1336
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll look into it.

1337
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: Hey, Eric, can you check if A one is produced

1338
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: by the Hines company?

1339
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's why you have to have a top

1340
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: right producer.

1341
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: Brown Steelers, Browns.

1342
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: I was so impressed watching the Browns, by the way

1343
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: in Week one against the Bengals. The defense, what else

1344
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: needs he said Greggy. But I thought the offense. While

1345
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: they didn't blow the doors off in a bad weather game,

1346
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: I saw enough there to also feel like they there's

1347
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: a lot of room for improvement. And I like them

1348
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: a lot in this game, especially Steelers.

1349
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: Uh, he already did. I already did. But Cam Haybward

1350
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: kim Kem.

1351
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: Hayward is a huge player on the Pittsburgh defense, A

1352
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 3: massive contributor, the biggest contributor other than what he's out

1353
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 3: half the season.

1354
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: They think he could be out eight weeks.

1355
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: And on the other side, Deontay Johnson, who's very talented

1356
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: wide out that gives their offense depth and a big

1357
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: time playmaker. He's missing a month at least with a hamstring. GREGI,

1358
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 3: so you have a shorthanded Steelers team coming off a

1359
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: horrific Week one performance and the Browns coming in feeling

1360
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: no pain.

1361
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: Right, But that's partly why I think the Steelers at home. Definitely.

1362
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess it's not a quartern animal

1363
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: if you're zero to one, but they need this game,

1364
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: and you know I would lean Steelers just but barely.

1365
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: You're right. The offense for the Browns looked better. The

1366
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: run game looked good. It should, but the blocking was good.

1367
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: I know they lost Jack Conklin. We talked about that,

1368
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: but I thought Deshaun Watson was better. His eyes still

1369
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: came down a little quickly a few times and just

1370
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: looking to run. But he is looking to run and

1371
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: he's a good runner, and that bailed him out a

1372
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: few times. But throwing the ball for a team that

1373
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: reportedly really struggled to put together multiple first downs in

1374
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: practice and camp, it didn't look bad. He had a

1375
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: couple old Deshaun Watson throws. I would say he was

1376
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: closer to just like the league average quarterback this week.

1377
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: It was not a great performance, but it was tough

1378
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: weather situation, it was weak one. I think if you're

1379
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: a Browns fan, that's definitely something to hold on to.

1380
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: That that was progress. I would say that was better

1381
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: than any one of his six games last year because

1382
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: that was such a low bar. But he did clear it.

1383
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: And we talked about it this offseason that like, look,

1384
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: if he's even just okay, they have a chance to

1385
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: win a lot of games.

1386
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you will have to go and face TJ. Watt,

1387
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: who looked incredible last week. That was one of the

1388
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: bright spots for the stealers.

1389
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: Only bright spot.

1390
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 4: It was the only one spot three sacks in that game.

1391
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: He looked fantastic. But it's the Browns defense. For me

1392
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 4: and Jim Schwartz this they looked totally different. I mean,

1393
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett and Zadarius Smith were all over Burrow NonStop

1394
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: in this game. The secondary was money. They had blankets

1395
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 4: on the receivers the entire time. And what a blow

1396
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 4: up for Grant Delpit. I mean he did not look

1397
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: like this with Joe Woods as the coordinator, and in

1398
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 4: this game he had a team high eight tackles. He

1399
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 4: stopped a ton of first downs like he was great

1400
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 4: in this game. So yes, it was rainy conditions, but

1401
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 4: they absolutely shut down Cincinnati.

1402
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: The reason why I was even more impressed with Cleveland.

1403
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: After watching the game was it didn't feel like the

1404
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: Bengals ever even had a chance. Never that when Burrow

1405
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: dropped back the pass, the coverage was so good and

1406
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: they were so they had him cooked up so well,

1407
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 3: and then the defensive line, led of course by Garrett

1408
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 3: was getting home and it was just like a complete performance.

1409
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: And the weather again that factored in, and of course

1410
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: the opponent the quarterbacks layoff. I think it made maybe

1411
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: Cleveland look like they were the eighty five Bears. I'm

1412
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 3: not saying they're that, but I think, especially the way

1413
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett played and the offense looked in weak one,

1414
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a tough assignment and it's gonna

1415
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: be I don't know where Sizzlers heads at on this,

1416
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: because you got the Browns going to Pittsburgh here, and

1417
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: what would be a happy outcome from I think I

1418
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: know what it would be, but Steelers. That for Pickett,

1419
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a lot of pressure on him because

1420
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: there the Boobirds were out a little bit in Week

1421
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: one after all the positive press. He can't go out

1422
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: there and stink out the joint and primetime in week

1423
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: two and do that again, and the Browns are not

1424
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: going to make it easy on him.

1425
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: He looked like a totally different quarterback than we saw

1426
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 4: in the preseason. He was accurate in the preseason, like

1427
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: they were scoring. This offense did not look like themselves

1428
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 4: at all. And when you go back to last year,

1429
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 4: I essentially no one won the week after they played

1430
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 4: the Niners because it is such a physical matchup.

1431
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 5: So that's also bad for the Steelers.

1432
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1433
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,479
Speaker 2: That is a good way.

1434
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: Nobody wins after that.

1435
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: I think it was like maybe I gotta go back

1436
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 4: and look, but I think it was only like one

1437
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 4: or two. It was a thing following week after playing

1438
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: the Niners. Someone check that.

1439
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: I was taken by Mike Tomlins quote where he said,

1440
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: look that I watched the film and those cornerbacks for

1441
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: the Browns won the game for them. He just said

1442
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: it clearly, and on paper they do. It's maybe not

1443
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: as well known, but it's one of the better trios

1444
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: in the league. Denwi de Ward people know I have

1445
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: been there a long time with Martin Emerson, Greg Newsom,

1446
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: and then with this defense where they're using Garrett on

1447
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: the inside more kind of lining up as a defensive

1448
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: tackle or even kind of a linebacker in rushing like

1449
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: he did it more in that game almost than he

1450
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: did all of last season. And Zadarius with defense. I've

1451
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 2: believed this for a long time. It's not as much

1452
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: on offense as offense as about the players. It is.

1453
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: The players matter, but it's more about like and it

1454
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: can change from year to year. I remember the Bengals

1455
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: defense two years ago. Immediately you could see, Wow, they're

1456
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: playing just more together, with more energy, more physicality. They

1457
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: want it like they just you can see it, and

1458
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: you can kind of see that with Brown's defense. You

1459
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: think that could be consistent where they're just going to

1460
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: play with a great level of physicality and energy and

1461
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: that goes a long way on defense. It's it's a

1462
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: big Week two game. That's what's great about the NFL.

1463
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Damn it's good.

1464
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: Like the importance to the sport. It keeps stacking.

1465
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 5: Up stacking importance.

1466
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 3: Would I also be okay just pushing pause and coming

1467
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: back and with the NFL next September.

1468
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: I would be okay with that.

1469
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: Like week two, we do in like September seventeenth, twenty

1470
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: twenty three, and then anybody, anybody on IR or anything

1471
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: like that can play like that.

1472
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 4: I would be willing to sit out a year of

1473
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: your life just to get to next season.

1474
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 3: Well just yeah, just so like everyone could be on

1475
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 3: the field again, and I.

1476
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: Would I would wait, Now, what about what's happening in

1477
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: your actual life outside of football, Like do you miss

1478
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 2: a year of your kids development?

1479
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 3: All those basements, so everything else goes on the NFL

1480
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 3: pauses and when they come back after a year of

1481
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 3: rehab and rebuild it, I mean, after just a year

1482
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: of time passes, it's still the twenty twenty three season,

1483
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: and it'll be a little confusing because by the end

1484
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty three season will be twenty twenty.

1485
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: Five at that point.

1486
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: But we're all just gonna be like we get it,

1487
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 3: Like it was just a different type.

1488
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: So also, like when you're you know, going to you're

1489
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: still coaching the baseball teams, Yes, are you working during

1490
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: this seas?

1491
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, We're just asking for a year of VICA.

1492
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 2: When you are working what are you coming here and doing? Yeah,

1493
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing construction in and around Englewood.

1494
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 5: We're going to the site.

1495
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you guys could keep doing podcasts previewing the season.

1496
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 3: I'm taking a I think you could do that. I

1497
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: think if you if I go to HR and I'm

1498
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: like tough stitch for me, I'm talking to Teresa a lot.

1499
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to do some Teresa.

1500
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 5: Is your Suzanne?

1501
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh, Susanne talking to Susanne.

1502
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: I gotta do some construction until Anon Rodgers' ankle and

1503
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: achilles is better.

1504
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: And they'll be like, well, we can't tell you. You can't.

1505
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh see Suzanne.

1506
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 3: So you're gonna do it, and you're gonna do construction,

1507
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: and then here we go, a construction sabbatical.

1508
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: Beautiful.

1509
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 3: I think the Browns were slept on this offseason. I've

1510
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: said that. I think some of the reasons why people

1511
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 3: weren't picking the Browns were things that not necessarily are

1512
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: about football. And I get that too, But I think

1513
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: they're gonna drop a bomb on the Steelers. Almost want

1514
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 3: it up. But if I would have won in Week one,

1515
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: maybe I would have been feeling a little randy and

1516
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 3: do it a little big funk and I would have

1517
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: done it, but I'm not so. But I think this

1518
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: will be a one sided Browns victory. People are flying,

1519
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,839
Speaker 3: People will be quietly flying and not saying that they're flying,

1520
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 3: and some people will be out of their chairs flying.

1521
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 3: And people will be asking two questions on Tuesday morning,

1522
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: what's wrong with the Steelers?

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: And wow? Are the Browns gonna.

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: Win this steader?

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: Wow?

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01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: And if that happens, Yeah, I'm looking forward to the

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: Monday night recap that we'll be doing with the Sizzler

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: because my cold, empty and little heart would say, this

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: is a game to me that circles like Steelers, because

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: if this game was played a week ago, the Steelers

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: would have been three point favorites, maybe three and a half.

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: Two teams both expected to be at a similar level

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: going into the season, but Steelers a little higher, a

1534
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: little better, a lot of talent. I know they've had

1535
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 2: a bad week, certainly on the field and then the injuries.

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: Fast forward a week, not that much has changed. They

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: are now under There are now two and a half

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: point underdogs in this game, and that that usually is

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: the moment where you know the desert wins.

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 4: I kind of thought the Browns were I put the

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: Browns above the Steelers going for season?

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01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so both not by much? Both? You have it

1543
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: that way?

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01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: All right?

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: That's it, hey, Eric, behind the glass, do you have

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01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: an answer? That's like the most important question?

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01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 10: Of course A one is in fact the Hines product.

1548
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 10: There we go, and after sure they did not wipe all.

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: Of the Heins references.

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01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 10: So I guess towards last the end of last season

1551
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 10: they put a Hins name above gate Sea guys.

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01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean so.

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01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 10: Okay, and there is the behind what does that even mean?

1554
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 10: So they put like Hines logos above. I guess it

1555
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 10: comes out of the Allegheny Light Trail light rail system.

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01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: So that's there. He really went in the week like,

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: I see what you're doing.

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: Corpos.

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: By the way, it's like what oh jiha Stadium at

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01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 3: Arrowhead Field's like, f you it is? You want to

1561
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 3: call it Hines Field at akroshor Stadium.

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: Not gonna do it.

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 10: But the best part, guys is every time the Steelers

1564
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 10: enter the red zone, they enter the Heinz Ketchup red

1565
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 10: zone when digital ketchup bottles.

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: Pour all over the scoreboard. There you go, very good.

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what accurate for sure? Is still all right?

1568
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: It hasn't worked.

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01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 5: We don't know anything about the Niners last year.

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 10: Team, Oh we do. Yeah, this was from Sam Sam.

1571
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 10: He sent this over there. They are what is it?

1572
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 10: One and twelve after playing the Niners this year. Let

1573
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 10: me say I pulled it up a lot.

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 2: I mean that's impossible. There's sorry anymore.

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, teams are a one to twelve record in weeks

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 10: after playing the forty nine ers.

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01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I take it back. Maybe they had bie weeks

1578
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: the week after and that's what Oh that makes sometimes

1579
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 2: I stick the old the mouth.

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01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: Right in the old mouth. All right, that's it, Colleen,

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: You've said it all.

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01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 5: Guys, should I come back next Wednesday?

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01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: If you're not booked out with Susan yeah, or at

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: the site you don't.

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01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: Have a conflict, please join us?

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Speaker 2: All right now let me know I said hi, thank you?

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Speaker 3: All right, Thursday preview tomorrow till then eat the call.