WEBVTT - I Said No MotherFucker

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<v Speaker 1>We walked along the beach. What a moment. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>has my head is he kissed me. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend my luck with you. I want you for my

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<v Speaker 1>just been at the time, she said, not what you

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<v Speaker 1>want me.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Good Mops, Bad Choices, Episode thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey we made it. It's thirty, dirty flirty, thirty, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty. We're thirty. We're podcasting and doing things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>episode thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be our new intro music something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to intro.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know, because technically.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I do not know what we

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<v Speaker 1>speak of. Maybe not admit to mindous. You said you

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<v Speaker 1>own know you bought it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, so it's yours. Anyway, they're stoned again. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're recording this episode a little early because we are

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<v Speaker 3>going out of town and stuff and so apologies if

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<v Speaker 3>we're dated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're gonna be a little dated.

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<v Speaker 3>But because by the time this airs, we're gonna know

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<v Speaker 3>if Brett Kavanall is honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know the US Supreme Court, what do you what

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<v Speaker 1>do you guess? Yes? That isn't Yeah, yeah, I agree, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm for stopping these white people First of all, Clarience

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<v Speaker 2>got gone on black ass.

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<v Speaker 1>They are definitely don't give a fuck. How many pussies?

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<v Speaker 1>What's Clarence Claires? What's the face? He's in the clear.

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<v Speaker 1>He's good. I mean it's not good. He's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just know they're not going to recognize it

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<v Speaker 2>as anything, as an injustice, and they're rarely like believing

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<v Speaker 2>r now, So I know, hopefully if we're wrong, especially

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<v Speaker 2>because that means who knows what he's what is he

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<v Speaker 2>going to do once he gets on the Supreme Court?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean overturned row versus way do a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>things for the immigration. So I don't know who knows,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows? Maybe he'll surprise us, I don't know. All

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<v Speaker 3>I know is when I saw his little screaming face

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<v Speaker 3>getting all rouled up, something in me told.

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<v Speaker 1>Me he did. My psychic intuition said he's guilty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that, uh so many women gits abused,

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<v Speaker 2>Like of all my friends, I can think of, like

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<v Speaker 2>off top, like eight people have experienced in some form

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<v Speaker 2>of fashion, some inappropriatingness from a guy, and you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like brush it off because that's what guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how men act like fucking savages. But that's just

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<v Speaker 1>not true, and that's unacceptable. No, it's not. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>even like when I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Because so, guys, we're obviously talking about the sexual assault

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<v Speaker 3>case of accusations against Brett Kavanaugh, who is up for

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<v Speaker 3>to be Supreme Court justice, which is a lifelong appointment,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is being accused by three women of sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 2>One of which that happened in two in high school

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<v Speaker 2>and one in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't no, one in high school, two in college.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's the main reason people

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<v Speaker 1>are dismissing it or just general people dismiss stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 2>And she took a polygraph test that came out that

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<v Speaker 2>she was not being dishonest, but they rejected it.

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<v Speaker 3>They rejected it, and she also gave the notes. She

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<v Speaker 3>gave permission to her therapist to release her notes, which

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<v Speaker 3>she talked about this incident back in twenty twelve with

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<v Speaker 3>her therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like you no, no, no. All In all,

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<v Speaker 2>though we wanted to talk this along with Bilkosby's recent sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to talk about sexualbse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a serious topic, and it's something that I

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<v Speaker 3>think so many women feel uncomfortable about talking about, or

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<v Speaker 3>some women don't even realize they've experienced it, right, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, because you start to put the

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<v Speaker 3>blame on yourself, like, oh, I asked for this, or.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a real disease.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're here now, so now I have to right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see your penis. You know, these

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<v Speaker 2>are all in some form refreshing ways. You know, people

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<v Speaker 2>overset their boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Never have I been like you will, look at

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<v Speaker 1>this pussy, look at this?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you look at this? Can you imagine? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere. Come on, I'm not going anywhere, like

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<v Speaker 1>please come on, I mean not.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like demean men because I know men get

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<v Speaker 3>sexually assaulted as well, which I know it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's not funny. The sad part is men.

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<v Speaker 2>All the guys I know that have been like molested.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always I'm talking about men, like about well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know one guy I dated, he was molested for

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<v Speaker 2>a long period time by his mother's boyfriend. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a real place in molistation, but a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked to guys and I'm like, how over.

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<v Speaker 1>You when you not share your virginity?

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<v Speaker 2>They're like twelve, eleven, thirteen, I'm like, how old was

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<v Speaker 2>the person who It's always an older woman or an

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<v Speaker 2>older person at least a king who knows what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm always like, yo, that's not funny. You got

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<v Speaker 1>fucking rate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the lessation that is very disgusting. Even I for

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<v Speaker 2>like seven, and I'm like, that's not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true. It's so true, Like they don't mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Multiple guys that have told me that they lost a

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<v Speaker 3>virginity to like a much older, like a baby person,

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<v Speaker 3>but they don't even view it as they're not when

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<v Speaker 3>they're telling me. They're not telling me because they think

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<v Speaker 3>they've been sexually assaulted. They're either like girl almost bragging

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought if you guys be like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my virginity, it's like twenty year old. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's that's rape, that's yeah, or like

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<v Speaker 3>a seventeen year old and I was twelve, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the babysitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard crazy shit and it's like, yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's you might need to heal from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Also a big thing about like experience something experiencing something

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<v Speaker 5>like that when you're younger is sometimes you.

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<v Speaker 2>You like you numb it out, like the trauma is

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<v Speaker 2>so great that like your body makes it you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a dream or like they suppressed the memory because

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<v Speaker 2>it's too traumatic to relive and you feel gale and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know how to communicate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, seriously, I mean, I mean, I know, like I know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not cases of sexual assault for me, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>definitely like had moments of like where like something has

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<v Speaker 3>triggered a memory for me where I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>is that And I'll be confused like was that a

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<v Speaker 3>dream or was.

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<v Speaker 1>That all right? My tripmen? Right real? I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was real?

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<v Speaker 3>And like when that happens, it's just like you still

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<v Speaker 3>don't because like even when I think about stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>a memory that I have that I like I can't remember,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still not sure like what is real about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And what is it not? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And because you're thinking about it, are you what is

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<v Speaker 2>fabricated or what is memory?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So I have my friend this topic came up with

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to my friend on the phone tonight and

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<v Speaker 2>she was saying that she when she was like little,

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<v Speaker 2>like six five or six, she always wear of her

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor's house. There was two little girls over there, but

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<v Speaker 2>she never like she was always asking them and your

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<v Speaker 2>dad's going to be home? Is your dad going to

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<v Speaker 2>be home? And even her mom thought that was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if their mom thought it was weird, Like why

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<v Speaker 2>do you keep asking that? She said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So she said she.

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<v Speaker 2>Later started having this dream that he'd come in the

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<v Speaker 2>room and touch her because she was sleeping in the

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<v Speaker 2>guest room, and her body would is like tense up

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<v Speaker 2>and get really stiff.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the dream she's having.

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<v Speaker 2>But later in like when she was eighteen, she took

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<v Speaker 2>a psychology class and they were talking about how as

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<v Speaker 2>children we make things into dreams because we can't process

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<v Speaker 2>the trauma. And at that moment she realized that shit

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a dream. This was what really happened, and her

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<v Speaker 2>body she was just thinking it was a dream. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had that dream when I was at my house,

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<v Speaker 2>only when I was there, So that's one way you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like people are like subconsciously don't even realize these abuses

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<v Speaker 2>happened and how it's affecting them. And then there's other

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<v Speaker 2>things like you said how you didn't remember, and then

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<v Speaker 2>like suddenly something I remember when I was little, When

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<v Speaker 2>I was like sixteen, I was in Philly and we

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<v Speaker 2>passed by like an old house my grandmother lived in,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad was like, I remember, your grandmother used

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<v Speaker 2>to live there. And I looked at it, and as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as he said that, I had this rushing memory

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<v Speaker 2>of like the neighbor two doors down like touching me

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<v Speaker 2>while we were playing house.

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<v Speaker 1>He was older than me. I was probably like three

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<v Speaker 1>or four, honestly, and he was he was older.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I don't know how much older, but like a

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<v Speaker 3>teenager or I can't really really it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's maybe like eleven or ten or something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much's a lot older. Yeah, maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>nine or something. Matter he's three or four. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I was like traumatized by it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what did he do, like to like go in

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<v Speaker 2>my pants and try to touch my pet?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Then I get confused because I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>think a boy. It depends on how age he was.

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<v Speaker 3>But a boy at a certain age doesn't even know,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're both right, right, I'm not, But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, if he was at that age, he should know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's even a big of a problem with parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Aren't teaching the kids like you don't do that, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't touch anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I remember mom telling me, like, always in

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, someone tends to hear you tell me. And

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<v Speaker 2>I told her, and I like, I don't really remember

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<v Speaker 2>happen with that. My grandmother must have said something to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But at sixteen, I was like, am I tripping? So

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<v Speaker 2>I asked my parents do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it came out. I was like, do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, they asked me, do you remember that? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I do. I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>traumatized or anything by it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the crazy part is is that had I not

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<v Speaker 2>drove past that house at that moment, and I may

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<v Speaker 2>not have.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever really remembered that.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really huge deal or anything, but just how your

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<v Speaker 2>mind can be so tricky. Even I have a cousin

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<v Speaker 2>and recently she's thirty two, and she was she smelled

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<v Speaker 2>the scent and it started triggering these really dark memories

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<v Speaker 2>of being like raped by a relative when she was

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<v Speaker 2>like six years old, and then she started to play

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<v Speaker 2>out other things in her mind where she was like

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<v Speaker 2>she she she associated that with like with like, like

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<v Speaker 2>like sex with love.

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<v Speaker 1>So she tried to make her brother touch her.

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<v Speaker 2>She tried to touch other people because even as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>she she didn't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't fully comprehend that. And it was someone she

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<v Speaker 2>loved and a door.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she thought he was like giving her like affection

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate effects, right, but six years old, raping a six

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<v Speaker 3>year old?

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<v Speaker 2>And the fourth the crazy thing is is that thirty

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<v Speaker 2>in a growing up this is my close cousin. She

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<v Speaker 2>was troubled, She got kicked out of schools a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>she was she was angry. I'm we humped like and

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<v Speaker 2>she even had asked him like me and me and

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<v Speaker 2>her oh no, But I'm just saying, you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>was hyper sexual, but she did never even understood why

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<v Speaker 2>until she smelled this sense and it triggered all of

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<v Speaker 2>these memories. And I'm like, fuck, can you imagine at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two years old suddenly.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you're like, oh oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And even she apologized to me about like things like

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<v Speaker 2>when we're kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we're both kids, Like we don't fucking know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, it was wrong And I didn't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously didn't know your drinking. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times that behavior stems from some where you learn that

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<v Speaker 2>behavior from. But I'm just like I've always thought, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a I know, I'm a very sexual person, hypersexual,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm probably that's probably like one of my vices.

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<v Speaker 2>But I always was like, damn, I don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>get like some type of hypnotherapy and see if there's

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<v Speaker 2>anything else in there, because maybe this is the reason

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something's wrong with me, because I just know how

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<v Speaker 2>tricky the mind is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think also like you might just be sexual. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, I'm just trying to find like a

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<v Speaker 3>good reason. But I think, but I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 3>things that come up, you know, that can trigger you

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<v Speaker 3>or influence you know, your level of importance on things,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's sex or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, right, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>How we view sex, how we how we go about

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<v Speaker 3>getting sex, like the kind of sex we like, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And that's another thing I talked about my

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<v Speaker 3>weird porn fantasies wait, what were they?

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<v Speaker 1>It's always like older, like being take advantage of. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh yeah, what's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe this is just my season right now when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm meanto is that in a recent thing or it's

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<v Speaker 2>more recent like the last year or two.

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<v Speaker 1>I like bondage, So what does that say? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't think. I don't know if does

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<v Speaker 1>have any correlation. Like to be tied up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I like to watch it, and no one

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<v Speaker 3>ever does it, even I've asked multiple people to kiss

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<v Speaker 3>pissed I am how.

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<v Speaker 1>Many times I gotta tell the nick of time me up?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that a fantasy? Is it just my fantasy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get anything out of it, so therefore it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't that okay? You would have well, I guess I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Also I'm always afraid like someone's gonna judge me because

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<v Speaker 2>of my fantasies.

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<v Speaker 3>And then some people are scared to like tie a

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<v Speaker 3>bitch up. Clearly, clearly I asked my ex to do

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<v Speaker 3>this for like seven years. I would want to be

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<v Speaker 3>tied up and gagged a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like tease me, show me your skills.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been tied up and gagged and I was hot, hot, hot.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like to fulfill fantasies to the off topic,

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<v Speaker 3>which maybe not off topic because maybe why do I

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<v Speaker 3>like to know? Because I'm sexual to it, which is

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<v Speaker 3>totally natural.

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<v Speaker 2>But this also goes back to like why as women

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<v Speaker 2>we have to even question our sexuality?

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<v Speaker 3>Did something happened to me and I oversexed? Because men

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<v Speaker 3>just fuck all day and it's all They're not wondering.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's asking them, Oh, they must have been raped?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you molested? That's why you like to fuck so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? But yeah, but we do experience more trauma than men.

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<v Speaker 3>I think women experience more trauma than men on a

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<v Speaker 3>daily basis, between getting cat called all day long to

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<v Speaker 3>just like just just being demeaned all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, even as questioning our five percent more than the

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<v Speaker 2>next bitch sexuality goes to show that, like, as women

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<v Speaker 2>were just held to a completely different accountability when we're

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<v Speaker 2>when something happens to us and we're raped and we're fucking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the victim is like what was she wearing?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what was her sexual history? What like what

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<v Speaker 2>did she do to get to deserve this? And I

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<v Speaker 2>think in even some one state, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a point.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like a point of entry, like once the dick

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<v Speaker 2>is in this reagina, then like even if you say no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't count at as rape. There's like a specific

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<v Speaker 2>amount like point in which they dictate no, no, it

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<v Speaker 2>is rape or you must continue, which is even quay.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's all the way in, then they can't

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<v Speaker 1>corry rape.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just yeah, that's the funck. Who's there

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<v Speaker 3>and how would they know? How who's there to measure?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I guess just hearsay, But I'm just saying that's

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<v Speaker 2>an actual lot I read it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so don't know that's insane. I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 3>put it past America, Okay, well right, I mean obviously

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<v Speaker 3>past America. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean even just.

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<v Speaker 2>Super low minimal charges to pedophile, to fucking rapist, all

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<v Speaker 2>these like it's just like, oh, bad boy, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just not eagle. No, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean we'll probably never really know if what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean with within this case in

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<v Speaker 3>particular with Brett Kavanaugh or you know, clearly it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter with Clarence Thomas. But that's what's so sad like too.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like this this woman doesn't have anything to

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<v Speaker 3>gain from this. If anything, she's going to she's giving

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<v Speaker 3>away a part of her life, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Like people are she's she had to move because she

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<v Speaker 3>was getting death threats from people who support him.

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<v Speaker 6>H Like, you know, her job, her job probably you know,

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<v Speaker 6>she probably compromised everything and compromise everything because but she's

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<v Speaker 6>the victim, and she's the victim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's she's like a doctor's and she's just

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<v Speaker 2>like she's super educating college.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the doctor of psychology. She I think palout, she's

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<v Speaker 3>a professor pado out. So I can't remember what college.

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<v Speaker 2>At the hearing, the woman on the board or whatever said,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know it was him? And she was

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<v Speaker 2>like just like how I know I'm here right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she broke me down, way down. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>the hippocampus sends.

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<v Speaker 2>A sense a vibration to the I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but she told.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, she just told you how the

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<v Speaker 1>brain work works. Take notes? What No, you had enough

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<v Speaker 1>fish sheets? Did you eat your pasta? Oh? Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>has some more. She eat some of Luna's fish sheets.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn god, I want something fishies. I want donuts? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we get I don't know what? What do they

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<v Speaker 1>call it? All the Krispy Kreme? Why do they close

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<v Speaker 1>donuts up so early? Don't they know? People? Hi? People

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<v Speaker 1>want donuts? Oh my god, we should open a late

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<v Speaker 1>night do That would be amazing. You know what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to open when I live downtown. It's so stupid now.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to open a delivery ice cream service where

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<v Speaker 3>someone walks around like you don't how like they have

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexicans, like the Mexican Like you want a donut car, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like have the little cards and like yeah so I

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<v Speaker 3>or like you know, they serve like the Mango and

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<v Speaker 3>the bomb. But you would travel around downtown. It was

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<v Speaker 3>specifically for downtown donuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Ice cream. Oh if they travel.

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<v Speaker 3>Around with ice cream and they scoop it at your door,

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<v Speaker 3>doorfront ice cream.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your idea, This is my idea. It's a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>It's genius.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I mean, I'm very similar to very so

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<v Speaker 2>much an ice cream truck, except in downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>People want door to door service at a moment. We

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<v Speaker 1>live in it.

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<v Speaker 3>We live in a town where we want. We have

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<v Speaker 3>Postmates to go fucking grocery shopping for us. I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>sorry we got high before this episode. Okay, our tangents

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<v Speaker 3>on donuts and ice cream trucks and fissiness ideas are horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it is nine thirty eight. Where the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck are we going to get some donuts from? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I was freaking.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we must make them. No I can't. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was your idea. No, no, I'm bad. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, back on dry background dry. Yeah, So I was

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<v Speaker 3>actually when I when we were talking, we were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this topic, I was trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any specific memories of being molested when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a child. I know, like my mom taught

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<v Speaker 3>me very early too, like his name would to my

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<v Speaker 3>mom's super paranoid about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember having like a rash on my vagina when.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like seven or like six, and I'm will

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<v Speaker 3>be like, who touched you? Who tell me what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's touching you? And I was like no, and there

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<v Speaker 3>really was no one. I think it was like the

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<v Speaker 3>soap was like irritating me. But definitely later on, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was telling to me, like I have this one

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<v Speaker 3>incident and I'm like actually embarrassed even share it, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I've never really shared this story with many people at

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<v Speaker 3>all because I felt so gross and I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>it was my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like I felt like a hoe, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I felt like a whore.

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<v Speaker 3>And he knew he was making me feel that way,

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<v Speaker 3>so that he knew I wasn't gonna tell anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just manipulating. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, like when I was like twenty or nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I really wanted to sing, Like I was really like

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to have this career in singing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was writing a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I was interning at Geffen Records and Interscope, and there

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<v Speaker 3>was this guy there and he was an A and

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<v Speaker 3>R there and he befriended.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and you know, found out I wanted to sing.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a little crush on me, and I knew,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was like whatever, you know, we're cool. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he started inviting me to the studio. He was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you should come to the studio. I was like, oh, ship,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the I want at the studio, like I want

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<v Speaker 3>to play all the heat that I had in my

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<v Speaker 3>gard how and I went bay, this is my favorite one, bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>So I played mysel my stuff and.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, yeah, you need know you need more production.

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<v Speaker 3>You need like let me help you, let some producers writers,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, la la la la la.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, oh my God, like he really wants

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<v Speaker 1>to help me. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>So we go into the studio a few times and

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<v Speaker 3>we do like maybe like we like start.

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<v Speaker 1>Things, don't finish them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I'm really like focused, like trying to like

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<v Speaker 3>show him that I'm like serious about this, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>How many times I went to the studio and this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But one night we were there and I remember like

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<v Speaker 3>there was somebody there. The sound engineer guy was there

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<v Speaker 3>and he was also there was like all this. So

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<v Speaker 3>this guy was like helping me with vocals or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're doing the song it was going to and

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<v Speaker 3>then he was like, Eric could come in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>come back in the back and talk to me. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like okay, and I thought it was weird,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was like what e's And so we went

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<v Speaker 3>back there and we're talking. He was like, you know

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<v Speaker 3>how how serious are you about like this your career?

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<v Speaker 3>Like how serious? Like what are you willing to do

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<v Speaker 3>to like? And I was like, what are you not

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<v Speaker 3>willing to do? He said how serious are you about it?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, you know, like I'm so serious,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, this is like my passion, my.

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<v Speaker 1>Gol like da da da da da. Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>asking all these questions. I thought like he was really

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<v Speaker 1>interested in my story.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he was like no, but like what are

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<v Speaker 3>you willing to do to like have a career?

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I was still like trying to tell him, like everything

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 3>I was willing to do vocal and he was like well,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he used a refereuse a reference of an

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<v Speaker 3>artist her name is Nicole Shu's and gir pussy Cat Dolls, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like she was willing to do whatever it took.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what a piece of shit guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what are you willing to do? And he

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<v Speaker 3>just kept like positioning did say what she did? Yeah,

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.000
<v Speaker 3>basically said that she slept with Jimmy I mean to

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<v Speaker 3>get her to get her to get her on the

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<v Speaker 3>pussy at Dolls, which is probably bullshit. Maybe she did

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 3>who knows, but she's actually really talented and beautiful.

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>We fucking saw the very first reality competition she was on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, that made that made the pussy

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Cat Dolls? What the fuck was it called?

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<v Speaker 3>She was on?

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>To show you?

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<v Speaker 3>Before that, I think, yeah, yeah, that one bitch was

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<v Speaker 3>working either way, but anyway, So basically, he just like

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 3>kept pressuring me, and like.

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Finally I understood what he was saying, and I was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like oh, and he was like, yeah, you know, you

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 3>might have to do some things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, you're not serious, Like you're not really

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.199
<v Speaker 3>serious about this then, And I was just at that

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 3>point in my life. That's why I was so like,

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I felt so shamed because I was like, am I

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 3>this week? Am I this desperate? And I said okay,

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 3>And we went to this hotel, this cheap ass hotel,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just remember him getting taking his clothes off

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 3>and he was just like overweight, hairy, shame on, older,

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 3>much older than me too, he was probably like forty two,

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 3>shame on that. And I remember exactly what he was doing,

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 3>getting on top of me, and I just like like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, oh he just let me be over,

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Let it be over, Let it be over, and then

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 3>it was over, and then it was over. And then

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<v Speaker 3>afterwards I felt so disgusted with myself. I was like,

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 3>how the fuck? What the fuck? But I like as

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<v Speaker 3>as fucked up as I felt like, I felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what, you know what, I'm gonna do what

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<v Speaker 3>I have to do. I'm gonna do what I have

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<v Speaker 3>to do. I want this and like whatever. I found

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 3>him a few times, fuck it whatever, you know what

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean? And I did it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after that second time, I like, I was

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<v Speaker 1>I never I couldn't even talk to him anymore.

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I can't even and so I just

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I blamed myself for that and because I felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're not You're not a child.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 2>You are the fucking thing is like nineteen twenty years Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I just I don't even feel

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<v Speaker 2>like an adult right now.

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>No. And he prayed on me, He prayed on he

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<v Speaker 1>prayed on.

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<v Speaker 3>All my shit, you know I do. I mean at

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<v Speaker 3>that point in my life too, like I did, I

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 3>was always seeking male attention and male validation, and I

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 3>felt at that time that I didn't feel powerful. I

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 3>felt like men were in better positions to help me to.

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Do and he used his position to manipulate you and

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of twenty year olds a lot of I

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>felt that. I felt like, like I don't want to

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>say weak, but like there's so many times I wasn't like,

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>get the fuck off me, I'm ready to go where.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Now you know what I'm saying, Like you were like,

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not, I'm a fucking with you. Also, there's a confidence.

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why is.

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<v Speaker 3>That, but I also think, now i'm thinking about it,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 3>is that I also felt like, because of my issues

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and insecurities and my needs for male validation normally for

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 3>male botchers, that I actually want to fuck.

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that I.

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Knew he wanted me, and I knew he thought I

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<v Speaker 3>was so beautiful, Like there was something about that that

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I was like, fine, I'll let you have this.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's weird that you said that, because I.

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Can relate to that, and I don't think i've ever

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 2>noticed that that feeling or thought in that moment until

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>you've saying it. Now, like some strange, some strange satisfaction.

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>That you have.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel like you're in control, but you're not you're

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 3>not because you're actually getting like taken advantage of.

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>You're almost aware of it. You're using your like oh yeah,

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>like it's me, yeah, to like downplay.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to describe what that is, but

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure some of the people are listening.

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can relate to that. But or is that

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like to make yourself not feel I think too, maybe,

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what it was. It was such

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>a fucked up feeling.

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't until like probably.

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Like a year or two later that I realized like

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I was taken advantage of.

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 3>And and I realized that when I ran into him

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 3>at a party like two years later, and I saw him,

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 3>and I was like paralyzed, and like I felt like trauma, trauma,

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't want to I wanted to leave, and

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 3>I didn't wanted to see me, and like I was

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 3>trying to like avoid him at all costs, and like

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 3>we didn't talk. I know he saw me, but I

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>just was like he knew too. He knew because he

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't even tried to come.

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Over there and talk to me. Yeah.

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>And usually if you're all give with somebody, you leave

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>someone good, you know what I mean.

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have no guilt, Yeah, but I couldn't.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just it's one of those incidents like you

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>just feel so like I felt shamed. I still feel ashamed,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean to talk about it because

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I know the woman that I am, and I know

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>who I am now, and I know like even then,

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 3>I knew I was capable of like come on, like

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I think back on that moment, America.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Come on, like, yeah, me, I even had a conversation.

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I've done a lot of stupid, stupid shit, and it's

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it was like when being manipulated, not

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 2>being like it just feeling strong, not feeling strong enough,

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>not feeling strong enough.

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, that's really it.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>And it's like crazy that something still like your your

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>body and like you're uncomfort your discomfort wouldn't be enough

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>at any age to just be like nah, like well,

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that is tippy, Like why does it

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>take thirty years for me twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 2>seven years to just be like no, like you don't

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>mean like have confidence enough to.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that's crazy. I think what

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>are we not telling our.

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Girls that it's that first of all men think it's

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 2>okay because how many times also have you even like

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>in high school or whatever, college shit last week, if

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 2>you like, someone's trying you and trying you and trying

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>you and trying you and trying and you're like no, no, no, no.

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>No stop stop.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>They keeps rubbing on your back, fucking keeps rubbing and

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>keeps touching you and try and try and touch you

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>for trying, try and trying, try and.

0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Be like no no, no, no, no, no no.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And at some point you're like, fucking yeah, and it's

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>definitely happened to me.

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, even that is like, no, dude, no,

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>do you.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Lack that much self control? But even that is a

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>violation of your you know, well, I feel like.

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 3>The word no has been changed so many times, you

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? I feel like no can Sometimes

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>it just feels like, oh, this is what she wants.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>She's trying to like.

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 3>She's trying to let a hundred know, she's trying to

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>like make beg for it, you know what I mean,

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 3>She's trying to make me beg for it. Or you know,

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 3>they just don't know turns them on because they you know,

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 3>they want to convince you, and they want to show

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>you their dick or whatever that they can do it,

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 3>and like you're gonna like this.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Dick, you know what I mean? Dude, when I have

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a son, we don't play those type of games. It's

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>just no turn turnover, leave immediately. Yeah, like that's yeah.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Like first of all, you don't need any you don't

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>need no pussy that bad. And second you're a girl,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>like you're a respectful, self controlled.

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Man and no it means no. And you have a

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:07.959
<v Speaker 1>mother and aunts and sisters.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're all messages that like boys need to

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>know because what.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 3>In the fuck I mean even just like not even

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 3>like like yeah the no, no, no, no, no of course,

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>but like then there's moments where like you're having sex,

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 3>you you initiates, maybe you initiated sex, okay, and then

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 3>you start having sex and then you have sex and

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>then you're like, wait, I don't really want to do this,

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 3>but you just let it happen because it's easier. It's

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 3>like you don't want embarrass them, you don't want to

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 3>make it a thing, you don't want to be you

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 3>just you know you're already here. You brought this on

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 3>because you led him to believe you wanted this, you know,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 3>all those feelings that like we shouldn't have that, we

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 3>should just be like, you know what, I don't want

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 3>to do this.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Fuck it, get off, thank you, have a good day,

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>like or we could just chill again, you know what

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You have no idea how many times I've been situations

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too, And just like.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 3>And I can count on one hand how many times

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I've said get off, Yeah, I'm good. I've maybe, like

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how like probably twice. Yeah, out of

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 3>all the times that I was like, I'm not really

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>into this, right, even like having sex with like an

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 3>ex boyfriend, you.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, I'm even having sex.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>And and that's even more confusing because you're like, this

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 3>is my boyfriend. We do this all the time. It's

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 3>not like this is the first time. But like I

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>don't want to have sex.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's happened to me, and I'm in a relationship

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>and we're in an argument, and in my mind, I

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is weird, Like in my like I

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>felt weird even repeating it to someone else, because like,

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't even sound doesn't even sound right. But if

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I fucking say no at any point in a relationship,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>married whatever, no, no, no, right, yeah, women definitely get

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 2>brushed under the rug. I think that's why a lot

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>of time times we feel guilt. We feel like it's

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>our fault because everything like sex, women being like overly

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.239
<v Speaker 2>sexual a is not accepted, And then I don't know,

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>it's just all a.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I just I think about, like, okay,

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>how do I and because society, you can you can

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>only teach your kids so much, you know what I mean,

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 3>because society also influences all these thoughts too, like what

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 3>do I need to teach Iri to be strong enough

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 3>to like, first of all, well, we need to be

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 3>able to talk about sex with.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Our kids, openly, openly about.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.719
<v Speaker 3>It and not like just avoid the subject so they

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>can kind of figure out limits on their own, you

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like we have to discuss it

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 3>with them, because I mean, it wasn't discussed with me.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously my mom was like, no.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 3>One talks to your touches, your vagina, but she wasn't like,

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 3>and you know what, I guess that if you're having

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 3>sex and you don't want to have sex, you can

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 3>say no, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, like when she

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 3>found out I had These are things like when you

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 3>find out your child still starting to have sex. These

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<v Speaker 3>are the conversations you need to have with them, as

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable as they probably are, they need to.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Hear you didn't do it so much that they get comfortable.

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That's how I feel like we should have such an

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>open dialogue. I mean, I know everything doesn't happened, how

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>you whatever, but yeah, like this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>something we've discussed from like eleven on, because these are

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<v Speaker 2>not to encourage it, but like you have the power.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's true, because how do you prevent that?

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Like just oh my god, it's so scary, it's terrifying.

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Even oh yeah, even to like we were both discussing.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Like when I was like fifteen sixteen, there was a

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>dude who knew how old we were, took us to

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<v Speaker 2>the club, got me shit face drunk, like super drunk,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point right black dot.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that I thought you slipped something in my drink,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>but like I know, I just block up when.

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I drink a lot of drink a lot, or maybe

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>he did, I don't fucking know. I was sixteen years old,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>but like he was, he had to be shit in

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>his thirties and who the fuck wants to hang out

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>with the bitch in high school? And literally like who

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>wants to fuck with like Loki pasted out bitch because

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>like if I.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't remember, you know what I mean? And because it's

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a whole Yeah, it's just immediate.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe it is like that too, people like that,

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>and so later we stay friends up until recently. And

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend now was like twenty nineteen twenty when you

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>met here, dumb and also like he would tell me

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that he likes like teen porn and now like I

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to like.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, oh, this is your thing. People prey

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>on easily.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>They don't want to deal with women because they know

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>they're not up to par for like girl woman, So

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>they actually prey on like young.

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, women that are just learning about sex and what's normal,

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:10.399
<v Speaker 3>what's normal for sex and what isn't and they normalize

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 3>a normal behavior right early.

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So there's just so many, so many levels to it,

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 7>I know, And it's crazy because ninety percent of the

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 7>time statistically it's someone that you know.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why you have to be careful, Like with

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 3>family with you know, even when we had that talk

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 3>with Jessica when she came on and she was talking

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 3>about like talking about sex with your kids, like and

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 3>she I remember she talked about that percent usually someone

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 3>within your family like that, even.

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Aunts and uncles, they shouldn't be changing your kid. You

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just don't know. You just never know.

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, and at first I was like, well,

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to live in a world where like

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I just think I'm accused, Like I always think someone

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 3>is going to be harmicy.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 2>But to eliminate it by only you the only deals

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that you and the dad, Yeah, eliminated And then like, yeah,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 2>your parents they raise you, how the unlikely but didn't.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 2>She also tell us about a case where the grandpa

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was touching the little boy mm hmm, and he was like,

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>in diapers.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's just yeah, and also go with your gut,

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>because how do you feel like a lot of times, dude,

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 2>it's in your gut, like you know, if something feels off,

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, something feels like comfortable and anything. If you

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you have that thought even one time, trust it.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Don't take any chances with your fucking kids.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 2>It scares me.

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course it's scary. I mean, you know what. Also,

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>though I think I talked about this too, it's like

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the like the because of the situation

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 3>that I went through with my baby daddy and him

0:36:55.480 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 3>being falsely accused of rape, like my perspective change. Like

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 3>I've talked about this before, like he was a false

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 3>accused of rape and the woman was lying.

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 3>And it's like when those situations happen, it gives ammunition

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 3>to people like President Trump or like you know, these

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 3>people that don't want to believe women, you know what

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>And it shouldn't take like just.

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>A couple of liars, but like, see, you're all lying,

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you're all fabricating the truth.

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 3>No, but because of that, that's where that that's where,

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>that's where it's where the seed is grown out of you.

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Like I can't even believe that president our president. I can't.

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't even call him President Trump, but he is

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>our president.

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, he has spoken out about the situation and saying like, oh,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 3>like all these lies and all of this and all

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 3>of that and everything is created by the Democrats, and

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 3>like all these got dam accusations ain't all lies.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Bruh.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like saying Bill Cosby, Uh, Bill Cosby's shit was

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 3>all a lie. Like forty how many people came out

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 3>was like crazy, forty thirty forty people came out Like

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 3>at that point, one.

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Of somebody's not lying, somebody's selling the truth, you know

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Do you talk about his sentence and

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>his quarters? No? Yeah, so Bill Cosby was sentenced to

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>three to ten years. I don't know if you guys

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>have seen his mug shot, but sh is it's really creepy.

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It's sad.

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 3>It's very sad and creepy. I mean, that's I don't

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 3>know should have be said.

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Is it a limit? Kay? I'm trying to say as

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm smoking, I'm like an ash limit to go to jail.

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 3>No, like a sad statutory rape, no sagitation, a limited

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 3>statitute of womens.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah's limits of statutution. Oh my god, that's for fucking mind.

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 3>A limit like there's like a time limit up until

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>you can, like you know, be a quarter crime. Quarter

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 3>crime that's only in rape. There's no limit of statute,

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 3>limit of stuf altitude.

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh my god, in murder is no, only only

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>certain things? Why why rape? Because they don't give up?

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Because women, because women are the ones that usually getting rade,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>but they don't give a fuck.

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 3>They want to like, all right, you know, women, you

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 3>have up until you have twenty years to talk about this.

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>No, you've got twenty four hours if you don't report it.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>We don't get DNA. Yeah that's true, but no, you

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>don't get the rape. Kate, you're dead. I can't believe. Well,

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what the what is the How many

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>years is it? Is it like three? Ten? You said?

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That's first of all, I don't know how many years

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>do you have to report a rape?

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it fifteen or ten?

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.479
<v Speaker 3>It's like fifteen, that's it has to be fifteen, Because

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I think, how long do you have to report a rape?

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Siri? Siri? How long do you have to report a

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>rape which has happened? It sounds like talking with someone

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>might help. The National Sexual Assault Hopline website.

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Offers content, Oh you did no, go back in there,

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not in here.

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Go look in there, close it down.

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 4>You racey better see it, Lynette relaxed, calm down?

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>How long was that like that? I just noticed. It

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't fuck did sire answer? No, it's here's a number.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's fifteen years Okay, you might be right.

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>It's because I mean the still Cosby should happened a

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 1>while ago.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean there were ones from way back in the day,

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 3>but this was like one of I think this was

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 3>the most recent.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>One, and that's why he got Yeah what you made? Wait?

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So okay, fifteen years ago he was he was useful

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 2>enough to drug a bitch.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, for sure, what wait? What are his quarters?

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>He so he's in a single cell seven by thirteen

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 2>feet ten foot ceiling.

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 3>He can he has he can buy a tvablet, tablet

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 3>and books, a radio, books, a radio, and a tablet

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 3>for texting.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, to do emails, to do emails, so he can

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>basically talk to whoever he wants all day long. Well,

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. I mean a tablet.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess it's just like a limited limited edition

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>jail tablet.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and he's right by the infirmary, just in case

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>anyone was concerned.

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.479
<v Speaker 1>But he might go into popular general population in ten days. Yeah,

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what do you think they're going to do to it.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>He's probably gonna be the king.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Of that fu.

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Also in the article we read, they said they've been

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>calling him OG, which stands for original gangster. Don't ask

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>us our source, but that's what the article said.

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean fuck.

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 2>The thing is I don't really feel bad for him

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:51.879
<v Speaker 2>because he looks.

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Like a pretty uncle. Who I know you did that ship,

0:41:55.400 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean I didn't get me away with ship.

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>They've made an example, lot of billy example. I have

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to be an old black man. Why couldn't they guy

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>like get someone? Well that's what I mean.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 3>He needed to get got, but I'm just saying that

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't. The first example been like, what's the guy?

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's going crazy? Oh Harvey Wine ste Yeah, well he's

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 3>definitely going down. He better, he better go down because

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 3>this ship is all recent. So many people are coming

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 3>like people who are now yeah actively acting.

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, nigga, you know what you did.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Stevie's a creepy What are we doing.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 1>To raise creepy people is a question. Creepy men, creepy man.

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's creepy woman too. We don't know. Of course

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>there are there's a creepy women that molest girls, boys creepy.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what's happening that it's just that, okay, which

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>is the whole different thing. Because I sat next to

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>this Oh my god, I wish I could find her

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:04.240
<v Speaker 2>name was I should look her up. I met this girl,

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Sarah I think her names stare on a plane. She

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:11.280
<v Speaker 2>works for Ashton Kutcher's nonprofit, which is like aimed geared

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 2>towards finding people who like who make child porn and

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>like do sex trafficking I think the United States globally,

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and she makes the actual program to like to find

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>out the actual location or some shit. Anyway, we start

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>discussing it on the plane and she basically says that

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it is somewhat like a mental illness, and the fucked

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 2>up part is that because it's such a taboo thing,

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 2>people aren't comfortable teenagers whatever, people aren't comfortable to come

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 2>out and say I'm having these thoughts of children, blah

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, this way, I need help. And I think

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 2>if you tell a therapist, they have to report you

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. So she's saying the problem is

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>that there is no dialogue for people who have this

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>illness because it is actually an illness, there has to

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 2>first be like a place for them to feel like

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to say, be aware of it and tell someone to

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>get help and not feel like.

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it an illness or is it trauma from their childhood?

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess like with this approach, it was an illness,

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>but either way trauma or an illness. If that trauma

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 2>has developed into use six shit, some sick shit, that shit.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Fixed, I feel like we have a we have a

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 3>way of making everything.

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Curable. When you're saying, what some shit is just like

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>an illness or like.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that I think that like should happen to

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 3>people that definitely affects their life. You know, people have terrifying,

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 3>horrible situations happened to them that you know, could potentially

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>make them serial killers or rapists or whatever that may be.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if I would consider I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think trauma is an illness, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean? Because I think that's where that's like where

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<v Speaker 3>it gets confusing, you know what I mean. Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>think also that I think they are all there are

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<v Speaker 3>people in this world that maybe you haven't experienced any

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 3>trauma and they are still fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, okay, so you've seen Frankie and Alice. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was that with Calgary. Yeah yeah, So it's this movie

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<v Speaker 2>hal Iberi does and basically this relation amendous experience happened

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<v Speaker 2>to her and she produces all these different personalities. She's

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<v Speaker 2>a schizophrenic and doesn't recognize she's switching between these different

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<v Speaker 2>personalities inside of her.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a true story, I know. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is if trauma, trauma can trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger and you're like your cellular memory can be triggered

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<v Speaker 2>so much that it does, it can be considered a

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<v Speaker 2>mental illness. Even if it's inflicted, that's just trauma because

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<v Speaker 2>just like we talked about, when shit happens to you

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, your body, your memory automatically does things

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 2>that we may not even recognize, and it could and

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<v Speaker 2>that I mean, I don't know if this is like

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<v Speaker 2>behavioral behavioral traits, not saying that to the extreme that

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<v Speaker 2>that's an illness, but I think it could be so

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<v Speaker 2>severe that it becomes an illness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. Actually, you're right. You just convinced me,

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<v Speaker 1>okays convinced it was based on the story.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've come to the conclusion scientifically sold but also

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to talk about too, the guilt that

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>as victims when stuff happens to you, that you behold

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>guilt and you're like, it's my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened because of X, Y and Z, and how

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<v Speaker 1>important it is as we go into our adulthood.

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<v Speaker 2>Even small things, big things, whatever, even things that you

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<v Speaker 2>may have in some might consented to or didn't say

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 2>anything and allowed the shit to happen. All of these

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>things things we collectively need to be like, that's that

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not letting this like this guilt and this this

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:18.720
<v Speaker 2>feelings that I didn't do enough like steer my whole life.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm worthy, you know, and I can move forward and

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 2>accept it and forgive myself and forgive that person in

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<v Speaker 2>some way, shape or form or fashion, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>release it and move forward and live at peace.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. No, Yeah, I just had an equiphany when

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 3>you were just saying all that. Sorry, I just realized

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 3>that a lot of me and a lot of like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that situation with this guy that I had

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<v Speaker 3>sex with and I didn't want to I think really well,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>A it steered me away from music for sure, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I had so told you before, Like after that like

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<v Speaker 3>I slowly kind of just stopped like wanting to do

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<v Speaker 3>music anymore, Like I didn't want to. I felt like

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm not good enough because the fact that he

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<v Speaker 3>made me that he that I had to fuck him,

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 3>or that he was suggesting that this is what had

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<v Speaker 3>to be done, Like maybe I was just not that talented.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It really affected me and my confidence in like what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good at, you know, because especially because music had

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<v Speaker 3>been so important to me and I felt like I

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<v Speaker 3>was really good at it and it was like my

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<v Speaker 3>whole life and then to find to put that in

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly that was questioned.

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<v Speaker 1>By an older person in power, and I believed it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And just how that can like shape the landscape of

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.320
<v Speaker 3>your life, Like who knows, maybe I would have like

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 3>been more successful music had I just persevered and pushed

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 3>through that and didn't let that situation like shape me

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 3>in that way, right, And that's that's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of scary. You're so probably so unimpressionable even that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You do think I could be fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Britney Britney spears, bitch.

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 2>You can't go with any bit more current than Britney

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna you want to do the next Britney Spears, baby, baby,

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna think. No one's gonna think your talents. I

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>could notice Britney's talent. I could be something gone. I

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 2>could have been launch all right, okay, all.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I.

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Can't be There's no limit. Wasn't it Britney pop? Because

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that'sn't you? Very differently I would write pops. But for me,

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to do more. You know, you need

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to might have need to pull up those EPs for

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>good girl. Don't make me pull them up making me

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the intro the intros to this episode. We need music.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, maybe I have like a really deep

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 1>song I composed the beginning of this episode. Oh my god,

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. Oh my god, I have one. Can

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you called Seasons? Okay, I can't wait to hear it.

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>You guys for a treat. Oh my god, it's gonna

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>be so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, anyway, that just like when you were talking about that,

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I was just like wow, Like I was kept thinking

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 3>like how did that situation affect me? What did and

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 3>how did I really feel after that happened? And I

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 3>did I felt obviously like dirty, ashamed, but I also

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 3>felt like I wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also felt like I wasn't good enough, you

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Like I'm not worthy. Yeah, and

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I think I still carry that now. I think I

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 3>already had that in me with my dad and like

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 3>him not being around, But this was a different not

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 3>good enough like my dad wasn't obviously thought.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes when you're when you're used to receiving like

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>a male attention in a certain way, we kind of continue.

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 1>We kind of like it shows up in different forms. Yeah,

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it shows up in different forms because we're not realizing

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we're we're doing it because but it's almost like.

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<v Speaker 3>Because like my dad, like for me, like my dad

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 3>not being around and not choosing that to be in

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 3>my life, I felt like not good enough to like

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 3>for his love.

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Right with this, I felt like another man of power, not.

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 3>A dead father figure, but maybe in some way, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because he was guiding I wanted to guide me right,

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 3>and then he wanted to have sex with me in

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 3>order for that guidance to happen. So then like I

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 3>felt like, well, maybe I'm what I'm providing. Like the

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 3>music isn't good.

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Enough, right, So then that kind of correlated the other things.

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It's all correlated, you know, and it built upon it,

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's probably why I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been very insecure in my life, not those not

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 3>just those two situations, but they definitely for sure shaped

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot of things for me now that I'm thinking

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you guys, guys enough, No, close close the door,

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 1>close the door, close the door all the way. No, oh,

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 1>don't hurt your fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think even like high school, like that's why I said,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you consented or didn't consent?

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<v Speaker 1>Is even like high things just just shit, like even

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:02.439
<v Speaker 1>stupid she did in high school? College? I I wild out,

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like wild out, and even now is the adult have

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to go back and be like, Okay, what the fuck

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>was going on here?

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 2>But and was it like a lack of male attention

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>from when I was young? Am I just fucking wild

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 2>and free and crazy? Did it just sound fun? But

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>also like do I subconsciously still have guilt from those things?

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Do I still not feel worthy and deserving? And that's

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 2>why like when someone says something to me specific a

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 2>trigger or something, but there's like even that's why I

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like even if you've consented to some shit or

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 2>you need, you have to realise all of that because

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like what, anything that happens yesterday is yesterday and everything

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>else is just moving forward.

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's true, it's true, it's true. Anyway. Oh wait,

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>do we have a question about email?

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<v Speaker 4>Do? Yeah?

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I still I think I think I'm happy.

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 3>We're in a place now where you know, we're at

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 3>least supporting each other more, you know what I mean.

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't really think things are changing that much, but

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 3>they're slowly starting to and hopefully, like.

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Women just need to.

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Get in power powerful positions and just shut the ship down,

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 3>shut it down, you need, it's just right, just go

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 3>to oundboxes when it's recent. Oh going, Oh, okay, So

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 3>we had a question from someone in our email, which,

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 3>by the way, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Email us Parental Advisory gm b C at gmail dot com. Again,

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 2>that's Parental Advisory GMBC at gmail dot com. Feel free

0:53:57.239 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 2>to email us asking us, invite, telling us some horries,

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 2>just to say, hey.

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<v Speaker 8>Girl, hey, you know, free shit if you're gonna be

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 8>in the LA area. Okay, So this is our question

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 8>from anonymous. I have an eight year old daughter, who's

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 8>my best friend, and it's been a whirlwind, whirlwind and

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 8>raising her as I became a mom at twenty Now

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 8>that I'm twenty nine, the sing and single, I'm curious

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 8>on advice on dating and putting yourself out there but

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 8>being cautious about letting people into my space and protecting

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 8>my peace. I don't know.

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like two conflicting things. Wait, how does she?

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 3>How does she? Basically, how do you put yourself out

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.919
<v Speaker 3>there and dating, but also be cautious about letting people

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 3>into your space and protecting your peace?

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Yea filter? The filter, the akna happens out.

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, But is it like, don't lie yourself,

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 2>don't try to compromise too hard in your brain to yourself,

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't ignore the red flags. You see a red flag,

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>believe it.

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You know who you're really not that into. And when

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you see that, when people tell you who they are,

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 2>believed them. I mean, there's basic boundaries when dating. You

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>can put yourself out there. You go on dates, obviously,

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 2>don't bring people back to your house, maybe drive your

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 2>own car maybe or separately. Always obviously, you don't immediately

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.839
<v Speaker 2>like introduce anyone to your kids. No guys should ever

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 2>be around your kids without you.

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Being there period. I mean I don't know, Like you

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 1>just have to feel it out protecting your peace. I mean,

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>if he starts disrupting it early on, no, it's just

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna get worse. Yeah, what I mean, if you.

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Feel this should mean there should be no disruption of

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 2>peace in the first eight months, six to eight, like

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>literally like forty six.

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.359
<v Speaker 3>And also take a look at the like why your

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 3>past relationships haven't worked, and try to notice the trends

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:02.320
<v Speaker 3>and see if there are any similarities popping up in

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 3>him that remind you of your ex because or something

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 3>you don't want in your life or don't want to

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 3>attracting your life. Because I've had to do that, I've

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 3>had to sit back and be like what is it that?

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Like why am I I'm dating the same person but

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:20.279
<v Speaker 3>in different forms? Like there are very different but they

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 3>share one quality, which is narcissism.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Why do I love people that love themselves too?

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, but they shut up in different forms, Like

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:31.560
<v Speaker 3>there's the nerd narcissist, then there's a thug narcissist. Then

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 3>there's like the yoga narcissist.

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, there was all different types of versions

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 1>of that, and so you know, like for me in

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 1>dating right now, because.

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I am like, i'm very I'm actually

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 3>really hyper aware of that too. I'm like maybe too

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 3>hyper probably be like, oh my.

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 1>God, it's conceded. He's conceded. He's conceited, and he just

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like looks in the mirror something he like wiped the book.

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you love yourself.

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Let that buggers say, there, no, no, But it's just

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 3>something that I just look out for now. But also,

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 3>like you if you put out good energy and you

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 3>put out love and you're like in a place now

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 3>where you feel like you said you're ready to date,

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 3>and like you feel like mentally you're in a good place,

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 3>like you'll start attracting good people, and you know, you

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 3>just have to kind of like feel it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to feel it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I definitely am like now that I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>in such a better place than I did a year

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<v Speaker 3>or so ago. Like I'm attracting different types of men.

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<v Speaker 3>They're still not perfect men, all of them, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>different than anything I've ever attracted. And also I think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also in a different place want to be different

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<v Speaker 3>also well, babe, Okay, come in here. She's an't ask

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<v Speaker 3>for issues. We're gonna take a quick break, guys, br

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<v Speaker 3>b anyway, okay, sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we answered her question. I think, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just you have to get out there. You know what,

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<v Speaker 3>you're filtering until you encounter. Yeah, you gotta get out there,

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<v Speaker 3>that's true. And then you gotta filter.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're twenty nine and your kids are your kid

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<v Speaker 1>is older, like, get out, you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>Get on tender asa, Yeah, get on that ship tender

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<v Speaker 3>and bumble not bumble, just get on Instagram because apparently

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<v Speaker 3>these days just using the d ms.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and Jamil are both really tired, and Hi, the

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<v Speaker 3>kids won't leave the room, so we're gonna We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>to end it now. So thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>joining us. If you haven't checked out our last episode,

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<v Speaker 3>you definitely should. It's a London Brown. We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>if men and women can actually be with patonic friends,

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<v Speaker 3>which was an interesting discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't touch that lamp.

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<v Speaker 3>And do you want to say bye? You guys over here? Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, bye, okay one two three?

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<v Speaker 2>Bye?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, mom, bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Choice. That's Whennie follow us A good moms underscore bad

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<v Speaker 3>choices and we will see guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We a bye f Savada.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like Baba.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Bobiba, I'm not b Staa.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like to Baba.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make it an hour, Savva.

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<v Speaker 3>You go Savada by agreeing without you, I'm in Helen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not a good A three without your perfect vision.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a good without your mother.