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Speaker 1: Something's going on here. That was a wild late window

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Speaker 1: It felt like the fall. What a wild late window.

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Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos final five possessions with bow Knicks touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants lead nineteen to nothing, they were

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Speaker 1: totally dominating the game. Denver roars back for a thirty

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Speaker 1: strangely great. Jackson Dart on the what we perceived as

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Speaker 1: the game winning drive, plays with total confidence. I didn't

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Speaker 1: like the pass interference call, considering the consequences, I didn't

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Speaker 1: hard call to begin with. But I gotta be honest

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Speaker 1: said it the week before. John first two years in

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Speaker 1: the league as a quarterback. If you can run, run,

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Speaker 1: it'll buy you first downs. These defenses are sophisticated. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Colin, it looked really ugly. I mean

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Speaker 2: there was a stat I saw going out of the

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Speaker 2: first half that over the last of course, of the

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Speaker 2: third down conversion percentage. I mean, they were atrocious. They

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Speaker 2: were just going three and out. They couldn't sustain any drives.

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Speaker 2: He kept missing the big plays and then it just flipped.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing you can't deny that he has.

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Speaker 2: He's got some mental fortitude and Sean Payton what looked

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Speaker 2: like was the game winning touchdown. They ran like a

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Speaker 2: quarterback power, you know, and they just let him. If

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Speaker 2: you remember a long time ago, the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: with Alex Smith played Sean Payton in a playoff game

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Speaker 2: with the Saints. They did the same thing, and I

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Speaker 2: you know that quarterback. They should institute more stuff like

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Speaker 2: that with Bow and their offense because they've been running

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Speaker 2: these deep breaking routes he's been missing them. Keep it shorter,

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Speaker 2: short intermediate, run the ball. I didn't think they ran

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Speaker 2: I won. Their quarterback just looks like he's kind of

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Speaker 2: Skataboo looks fantastic. Their pass rushers all look good. Listen,

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Speaker 2: it's not going well. They've lost two devastating games. This

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Speaker 2: But you know, i'd say, big picture, you're okay, but

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Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking John DeShawn because they really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would run the ball more. JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins I thought looked really good. I mean when they

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Speaker 1: Between George Pickens, Dallas acquisition and Hufunga. Those are great talent,

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Speaker 1: big mistake today. It was that interception. They were leading

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Speaker 2: So, I mean it was the only way Denver get

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Speaker 1: So we've seen boon Nicks do this multiple times. I

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Speaker 1: do think this is true. John. I think those sixty

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Speaker 1: in the NFL matters. Bow Knicks a lot of college starts,

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Speaker 2: I do wonder, you know, forever with Drew Brees, especially

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Speaker 2: bo Nicks, who has the physical capability of pushing the

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Speaker 2: he's very inclined to throw a lot of go routes

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Speaker 2: with Sutton and some of their longer guys, I don't

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Speaker 2: clearly is not working. I think some of the back

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Speaker 2: That's where their skill sets, especially with the way Bo's playing,

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Speaker 2: lot of balls batting today. That's a little cool he did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's clearly a game plan thing with the defense.

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Speaker 2: that game how many times on second or third down

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Speaker 1: But this league now, I mean, here's what it's exciting

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Speaker 1: just looked over my notes, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: feel so good. I mean they call it arm and hammer.

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Speaker 1: I think between Dart and Skataboo. I like Dabel more

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Speaker 1: one New York team is unwatchable. I've been saying this

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Speaker 1: I watched today. The Giants have a lot of guys,

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Speaker 1: These guys come out of nowhere. I mean they play it.

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Speaker 2: I'll defend Daveall on this. He clearly was the guy

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Speaker 2: pounding the table on Dart. You know, that was the

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Speaker 2: at this point in time. And they're not gonna end

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Speaker 2: six win team at best. To me, you roll it back.

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Speaker 2: Even if you got to give him like a fake

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Speaker 2: one year extension. I'm not in firing my head coach

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Speaker 2: if I'm day Ball. Who's an offensive guy, who's the

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Speaker 2: have even though in losses a lot of positive momentum. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you said, well, look at the team you share the

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Speaker 2: That is just I would not get rid of. I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm a proponent of keeping Brian Daball right now, I

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Speaker 2: don't exactly know contractually what's he going to turn down,

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Speaker 2: Like a one year extension. I want to get fired.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not gonna be a head coach anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: To me, I got no problem bringing them back for

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Speaker 2: another year based on what we're seeing right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had at one point fourteen straight completions. He

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Speaker 2: He's looked good two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 2: Well, Arizona's two and five, they could be six and one.

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Speaker 2: and Vilma mentioned something that I think the coaches had said, well,

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Speaker 2: something that I thought was pretty innocuous. I mean, stuff

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Speaker 2: It's kind of sad because they've definitely kind of been closed.

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Speaker 1: Like I think Rahma Dunza and Caleb had real connection

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Speaker 1: in the first half and they just kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like it just disappeared, it's very uneven to me.

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Speaker 2: To me, he had so many stretches to day where

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Speaker 2: it's like that hero ball syndrome of him just running

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Speaker 2: around sideline, the sideline on pass plays. It's like, I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine. That's not how Ben Johnson wants to play.

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Speaker 2: But what did he do? I was thinking about this today,

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Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson both being available in the

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Speaker 2: same cycle, Like, that's a pretty good cycle. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was quite enough competition for both

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Speaker 2: their services. You know, Ben Johnson's one of the better

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator candidates in recent memory. You could argue he's

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Speaker 2: a better candidate at the time when he was available

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Speaker 2: than Sean McVay was at thirty one years old, than

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell was. I mean, this guy was the number

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Speaker 2: one play caller by a mile. He was given all

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Speaker 2: three years. And then here's where I give him a

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Speaker 2: lot of credit, Like Dennis Allen's proven he's a really

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Speaker 2: good defensive coordinator and he gave him the game ball.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you saw the highlights, yeah, listen.

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Speaker 2: I also think that Spencer Rattler tried to like show

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Speaker 2: that I'm better than Caleb Williams, and he kind of

448
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Speaker 2: crumbled in this game. I mean, made a couple of

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Speaker 2: passes that were like made Caleb look like Lway some

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Speaker 2: of his decisions. But I'm with you, it's not even

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Speaker 2: just a passing game. It's Caleb did not look comfortable

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Speaker 2: today in the pocket he takes off. He's kind of

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Speaker 2: got that older you know, when Russell Wilson started kind

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Speaker 2: of leaving his prime because he's run around, but there's

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Speaker 2: no plays being made after he's scrambling around. It was

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Speaker 2: a lot of just three sixties and run around. But

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Speaker 2: if Swift's gonna look like that and their defense gonna

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Speaker 2: play like that, they're gonna be fighting. Now can they beat?

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Speaker 2: Do I trust him to be the Packers, the Lions

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Speaker 2: and some of these games, I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: go that far. You can't operate like that from a

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Speaker 2: passing standpoint. I mean, I'm I'm not trying to be

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Speaker 2: negative because you win four games in a row, that's

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Speaker 2: a big deal in Chicago, but you got to be

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Speaker 2: a little concerned with the quarterback and the way he's playing.

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Speaker 2: Really over the last couple of games, he wasn't that good.

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Speaker 2: Last week against Washington and they got lucky that Jayden

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Speaker 2: fumbled the ball or they lose that game.

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Speaker 1: Here's the upside. They did dominate time of possession, and

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Speaker 1: again so much like Detroit, they're creative, they pick up

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Speaker 1: first downs. I mean with Caleb like fifteen to twenty six,

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Speaker 1: they're not asking him to do a lot, but they're

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Speaker 1: dominating time of possession and they're running the football. When

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Speaker 1: they went and got Drew Dolman and Jonah Jackson and

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Speaker 1: who was the other kid, Oh Joe Tooney. You know

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Speaker 1: those are elite guys. And we talked about this. You

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Speaker 1: don't play offensive lineman veterans in the preseason. So the

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Speaker 1: first two or three weeks, you know, the offensive line

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Speaker 1: is all about chemistry and cohesion more than any single unit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the secondary, but it's all about cohesion. Well, from

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Speaker 1: about week three on week four on, this has been

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Speaker 1: a really good offensive line. They're running the ball, they

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Speaker 1: dimon dominate time of possession. So my takeout of this

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Speaker 1: thing is, you know, they're winning and these are games

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Speaker 1: they would have lost. And so for sure, when I

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Speaker 1: watch a coach, there are limitations any coach has, and

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Speaker 1: it's like Sean Payton. He's doing what he can with

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Speaker 1: bow Nicks, which is second half, they're running more. They're

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Speaker 1: often not very good early, but you can do only

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Speaker 1: so much with what you have. But when I watch

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Speaker 1: the Bears, I think this is a choppy, well coached team.

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Speaker 1: Caleb's right now learning the position, but it's a whole

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Speaker 1: new staff, new players. I do think he and Roma

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Speaker 1: Dunze have a field. There is something there that I

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Speaker 1: think it's good. Swift is a very good running back.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think when you look at Chicago's

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Speaker 1: history beating a bad team at home, when your quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: on the then you gotta feel good about a driving home.

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Speaker 2: Well, to me, you're four and two, like you're in position.

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Speaker 2: If you just kind of stay five hundred, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be in the wild card mix. Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna translate for Chicago late in the season. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be cold, it's gonna be defense and running the ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at their schedule. They got the Lions last

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Speaker 2: game of the season at home, that's outside Green Bay

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Speaker 2: at home outside. Uh, you got the Browns at at

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Speaker 2: Green Bay at Philadelphia. I mean, these are cold, inclement

508
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Speaker 2: weather games, you're not gonna throw probably in some of

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Speaker 2: these windy situations, rain, snow, sleet. Who knows, you're not

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Speaker 2: gonna be throwing for three hundred yards anyway. So if

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Speaker 2: you get swift, give you one hundred plus yards. Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson's excellent with running backs. I mean, that was a

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Speaker 2: huge thing that he hung has had on in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: And if Dennis Allen can get because they're missing DB's,

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Speaker 2: that's the other thing. Like Jalen Johnson out for the season,

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Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, you know, a borderline all pro level guys.

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Speaker 2: So their dbs today were I mean, some of the

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Speaker 2: passes were awful, but they were their DB's made a

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Speaker 2: couple just incredible plays.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, here's the other thing. Remember last year they

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Speaker 1: scored twenty seven points in the first quarter all year.

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Speaker 1: Once again this week they took a thirteen to nothing lead,

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Speaker 1: So again that is a huge step john Last year

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Speaker 1: they could not score in the first So I think

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Speaker 1: as of now, I don't know what the number is.

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Speaker 1: They scored twenty seven first quarter points last year. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. I mean, I think they're now almost at

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Speaker 1: forty points for the year and or third through the season.

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Speaker 1: So if you just look at run game, improved functionality,

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Speaker 1: first quarter, improved defense, you can see the plan. When

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Speaker 1: you watch them play, you can see the plan. And

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Speaker 1: for the record, Caleb is better than last year. The

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Speaker 1: other thing about Caleb, it's interesting, and I thought about

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Speaker 1: this day with Spencer Rattler. For all the misgivings you

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Speaker 1: and I may have or questions about Caleb, you ever

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Speaker 1: noticed this John He doesn't throw a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: He didn't at USC. He only threw six last year

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Speaker 1: in total chaos and dysfunction. He may drive you nuts,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. He's just

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Speaker 1: he misses open guys. He didn't throw it to the

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Speaker 1: other team much.

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Speaker 2: And this gets back I think hiring Ben Johnson. We

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Speaker 2: said it for so many times with the Chargers when

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Speaker 2: they had these really good teams and they would hire

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Speaker 2: Mike McCoy or Brandon Staley, they went cheap. Finally you

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Speaker 2: get Jim Harbo. It's like, Okay, now you have a

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Speaker 2: chance for the first time in Bear's modern day history.

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Speaker 2: Like they spent huge money on a real guy that

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Speaker 2: every other team would want. And it's paying dividends right

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Speaker 2: now because I'm with you, like you know, if anyone

551
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Speaker 2: can just corral and fix some of these pocket deficiencies

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Speaker 2: with Caleb, And I also just think it gets back

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Speaker 2: to sometimes smaller guys harder to see. So part of

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Speaker 2: like why did Russell scramble around a lot because he

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Speaker 2: probably couldn't see anything. He scrambled, he got outside the

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Speaker 2: tackle box he could see. Caleb doesn't too, And like

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Speaker 2: you said, he's not doing as many hero balls across

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Speaker 2: his body to the other team. That that's a win

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Speaker 2: in itself.

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Speaker 1: And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey

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Speaker 1: Business brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official

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Speaker 1: whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast. So it wasn't one

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Speaker 1: of the better games, but Kansas City beat Las Vegas

564
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Speaker 1: thirty one to nothing. The Raiders were held in ninety

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Speaker 1: five total yards and in the last month, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are averaging thirty two points a game. And I was

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Speaker 1: sitting there this morning, I really believe the NFL has

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Speaker 1: come down to four tiers. First tiers Kansas City, it

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Speaker 1: looks like the best team in the league. Then there's

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Speaker 1: several teams Tampa among them, Rams, Detroit, Philadelphia, Colts that

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Speaker 1: appear to be really good, solid football teams. Maybe Denvers

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Speaker 1: in there, maybe not. There's three awful teams Titans, Jets, Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: probably Cleveland. But then there's about twenty one to twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Short said this today on the internet coin flips,

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Speaker 1: and so we've got a great team, a small handful

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Speaker 1: of good teams, a really small handful of awful like

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Speaker 1: bottom of the NBA level teams, and then most of

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Speaker 1: these games are it's a lot of coin flip stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the Raiders are off, but today's a

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Speaker 1: great Yeah. So today this is the first time all

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Speaker 1: year Kansas City had their top three receivers. Rice had

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Speaker 1: seven catches, Worthy had three, Juju three. I think I

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Speaker 1: told you two weeks ago keep your eye on Breshard Smith.

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Speaker 1: That kid's gonna end up being a really good player

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Speaker 1: for them, Hollywood Brown. Now you look at their receiving

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Speaker 1: corps with Rice and Worthy and you're like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: one of the deeper wide receiving corps. I I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just it was forty two to seventeen time of possession.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to me, Kansas City clearly looks like the

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Speaker 1: best speed, the most depth. The best team hands down

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Speaker 1: in the league. That's what my eyes tell me.

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Speaker 2: I think one major difference this year and the way

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Speaker 2: they look on offense they did last year. Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 2: basically missed the entire season. For him last season, he

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Speaker 2: adds an element of just I wouldn't say he's Tyreek

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Speaker 2: Hill by any means from a speed standpoint, but he

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Speaker 2: is a faster receiver, but he can catch ball's intermediate

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Speaker 2: go over the he makes a lot of plays for him.

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Speaker 2: To me, you put him with Juju. Now Rice is back,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of opened everything up because Travis looks way better.

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Speaker 2: Part of last year was like, Travis looks really bad

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Speaker 2: and looking back, clearly he's an older veteran player, but

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Speaker 2: everything was so condensed because they had no thread outside.

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Speaker 2: So now you add Hollywood Brown, who's completely healthy. Juju

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Speaker 2: and Patrick have a good chemistry. Rice now back in

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Speaker 2: the mix with Worthy, you can spread the field out

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Speaker 2: and open the middle of the field for eighty seven

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Speaker 2: to operate. Because to me, Travis over the last month,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say he looks like himself in

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Speaker 2: his prime, but he definitely looks way better than the

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Speaker 2: guy that I thought was kind of over the hill

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Speaker 2: last year, and part of it is he's not quite

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Speaker 2: fast enough just to take on two guys anymore. But

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Speaker 2: if he can get one on one coverage and just

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Speaker 2: work zones and what he does best, as he's doing

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Speaker 2: right now, their offense feels much more balanced. And like

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Speaker 2: you said, the Smith kid, I think from SMU they

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Speaker 2: drafted the seventh round to go with Pachako and Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 2: Their offense just has a lot of pros like that

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Speaker 2: guy's like I want to replace this guy. I place

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Speaker 2: this guy. Maybe not like Hall of Fame guys in

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Speaker 2: their peak, but just a well rounded bunch. I mean,

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Speaker 2: their star left tackle has disappeared for a couple of games,

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Speaker 2: got some personal stuff going on, so whenever they get

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Speaker 2: him back. Interior, their offensive lines excellent. Their quarterback I

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Speaker 2: thought's been playing well all season and today I mean spags.

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Speaker 2: I don't quite understand what's up with the Raiders, but they,

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Speaker 2: I mean they Patrick Mahomes had sunflower season had on

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Speaker 2: at the end of the third quarter, which is pretty

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Speaker 2: unheard of in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Colin Well AFC had their chances, but the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: one in five. The Bills have lost two straight and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers now are just beat up. I have just

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Speaker 1: timetell you something. If you didn't watch the Chargers Colts,

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Speaker 1: don't blame it on Justin Herbert. He's getting hell kicked

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Speaker 1: out of them and he is just sitting back there

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Speaker 1: throwing darts. But I kind of look at Kansas City

638
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: and it drives people crazy. But this league, for as

639
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: long as I can remember, you can go back to

640
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: Eddie de Bartolow and Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. It's

641
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: a leadership league. If you're good at the top. I mean,

642
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, you go look at the New York Giants

643
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: fall from grace. They lose Tom Kaffin, they lose Eli Manning.

644
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they were ever great at general manager,

645
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: but they were capable, and it's just never been the same.

646
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: It's just very hard John to find. As you know,

647
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: there's no other Andy Reid in the league. And Brett

648
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Veach is one of the great mid round draft guys

649
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: in the league, and the Hunt family is mostly hands off,

650
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: and then Mahomes is uniquely gifted. And it's just I

651
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: always feel sort of like in college football, like if

652
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: your Notre Dame or your Georgia and you hire the

653
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: wrong coach, or Michigan or something like that. You know,

654
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: one of those schools, it's easier to catch up. You know,

655
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: it's easier. Once Lincoln Riley came to USC, their offensive

656
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: recruiting got better, right, and they may not win this

657
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: or that, but the offense got really good, really fast.

658
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Because he knows what he's doing us. He's a big brand.

659
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: It's easier for blue bloods. If Alabama gets Kaylin de

660
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: Borie struggles for a year, Nick say, but it's Alabama,

661
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Like it's a huge brand. And I kind of like

662
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City. It's like if they have a bad draft

663
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: or they have injuries. They're just so smart. I mean, owner,

664
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: GM president, quarterback, like everybody's an A toh and a plus.

665
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: So I just I think the last couple of years

666
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: it's they can't figure out the offensive line. I watch

667
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: them the last four weeks to average thirty two a game.

668
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: I just they look different than everybody else.

669
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Well, they have a huge advantage the infrastructure. I mean,

670
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Andy Reid and Breadveach have been there the entire time.

671
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: Beach hasn't been the GM the whole time, but he's

672
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: been with Andy from day one in Kansas City. Their

673
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: offensive line coach, Heck has been there the entire time.

674
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: Spags now has been there, what five or six years.

675
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey has been there since twenty fourteen. Chris Jones

676
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: has been there since twenty sixteen. Patrick Mahomes, I think

677
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: the standing and the standard it's it's pretty unheard of

678
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: and unparalleled. I mean, it's got a little mccordy, Edelman, Gronk, Brady, Belichick.

679
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Josh and Daniel.

680
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: It's a huge advantage they have that no one else

681
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: in the league has, even Denver, Like, how long is

682
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: this coaching staff and his crew really been together? Two

683
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: and a half years, So the advantage they have over

684
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: their competition. And listen, the Colts Shane Siken looks as

685
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: good as any offense. If you had to give me

686
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: who's the offensive coordinator of the year as we sit

687
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: here October nineteenth, he one would get my vote. But

688
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: like this is Daniel Jones first year there. You know,

689
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: they got some new pieces. Obviously got some new pieces

690
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: on defense. I got some younger players that are contributing,

691
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: like you're telling me. In the second round Colts against

692
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, even if Kansas City has to go to

693
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: the colt. You feel great about Daniel Jones against Kansas City,

694
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: of course not, you know so and he is calling

695
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: I mean today Colin he was like Andy, I think

696
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: early on. One thing about Andy, he's kind of wired

697
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: more like a Saban, Like he's not really there to

698
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: run it up. You know, he'll call off the dogs.

699
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: I mean, they just he's not into showing anyone up.

700
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: He respects Pete Carroll like that could have been a

701
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: lot worse. There are some coaches in college in the

702
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: NFL that would have tried score fifty.

703
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: That was.

704
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: That score doesn't indicate what I witnessed. That that game

705
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: was JV VERSU varsity. Crossby got injured, he was knocked out.

706
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: But and I would say the same thing for Indy

707
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: relative to the Chargers defense, they did whatever they wanted

708
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: and that that's the one thing Indy had. I don't

709
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: know if their offense or excuse me, their defense is

710
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: good enough to stop Kansas City. But offensively, man they

711
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: got I mean, the running back is playing as well

712
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: as any player in the NFL. Jonathan Taylor, Tyler Warren,

713
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: the tight end is fantastic. They got multiple wide receivers,

714
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 2: Pierce Pittman, they are They're impressive. Shane Stichen's having a year.

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Speaker 1: about the Dallas Cowboys. You know, they clobbert Washington forty

721
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: four to twenty two. I mean, Dallas had almost three

722
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: hundred yards in the first half, and they had a

723
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: great Dak had a great Dallas is so good this year.

724
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: At the end of the first half, like they're so good,

725
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: and Jaden Daniels got hurt, came back, Mariota had an

726
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: absolutely dreadful pick six to give Dallas a forty one

727
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: fifteen lead. But I will tell you right now, I'm

728
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: of all the surprises in the league. So I picked

729
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: New England to be the surprise team in the league.

730
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: I feel good about it. I picked Denver in Kansas

731
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: City to win that division and go to the playoffs.

732
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Chargers third, I feel pretty good about that. I feel

733
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: pretty good about my stuff. I had no idea. I mean,

734
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: I didn't think Dallas would be good. Defensively, they may

735
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: be the best offensive team in the league. They're situational,

736
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: They're unbelievable at the end of halfs. George Pickens, outside

737
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: of Halfunga and probably including Hafunga, is the steel of

738
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: the offseason. I mean a third round pick for that guy.

739
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: They had Cede lamback today. I'm blown away by Dallas

740
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: and Jayden Daniels doesn't look right. I don't think he's healthy.

741
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: That was both of our concerns when he came into

742
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: pro football. Could he stay healthy. I think Dak looks sensational.

743
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: That offense is as fun to watch as any in

744
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: the league. It is amazing what happens with CD and

745
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Pickens both. It just opens everything up for their tight

746
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: end play. Their running back Jevonte Williams looks like the

747
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: Denver guy. So I mean, I Dallas is I am.

748
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't say this very often. I am shocked about

749
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: how good they are offensively.

750
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: You could make the argument, and I'm not necessarily making it,

751
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: but you could did. Brian Shaan Namer right now as

752
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 2: the coach of the year they trade Michah Parsons whatever,

753
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: what was that? Two weeks before, a week before the

754
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: start of the season, he not a soul, thought he

755
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: should be the head coach, and every human being that

756
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: fallows football thought it was an embarrassment to name him

757
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: the head coach. And then once he's named the head coach,

758
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: they thought he'd be completely over his head. Well, offensively,

759
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: he's the offensive play caller and they are dominant. And

760
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: then you get rid of Micah to add Pickens, who

761
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: is a pretty big personality who is going to shatter

762
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: all of his personal highs. I mean, he's on pace

763
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: for about eighty catches. I think his career high coming

764
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: into the season was five touchdowns. He already got six.

765
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: And it feels like on any given play he can score.

766
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: I mean he is. He's pretty dialed in.

767
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Now.

768
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: I get it, he's a contract year, but those situations

769
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: can be touch and go. CD comes back seamless. Just

770
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: put him right back in. They hit the ground running. Offensively,

771
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: they've looked like a juggernut. Now listen, Washington, the magic

772
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: is out. I mean they look defensively, they look terrible.

773
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Jaden needs to protect himself more he's getting crushed. Obviously

774
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: they were missing wide receiver, but the magic from last

775
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: year is unempty right now. Colin and Dallas feels like

776
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: they got a little bit of it now. Defensively, Are

777
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: they going to be good enough big picture to compete

778
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: for a wild card? I don't know that, but we

779
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: all have to admit Brian Schottenheimer has done a remarkable

780
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: job as the play caller in managing this situation which

781
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to say senile quite yet, but Jerry's

782
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: pretty out there now in his mid eighties. Not an

783
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 2: easy situation for a first time head coach.

784
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's all because of Dak. I

785
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: think Dak is just one of those guys. You know.

786
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: It's like everywhere Chris Paul and the NBA went, you know,

787
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: the Clippers, if you go back to when he came

788
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: into the league, you know down In was at New

789
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Orleans and then the Clippers in wake Forest and everywhere

790
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: Chris Paul went. They remember Phoenix for years, they had

791
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, Booker, and they had a they were terrible,

792
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: and then Chris Paul got there in sixteen points a game,

793
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: and his IQ and his toughness and his distribution. It's

794
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: like everywhere Chris Paul went, your basketball team got better

795
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: and smarter. Like, let's just be honest about that. He

796
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: just he's played so many snaps at Mississippi State and Jerry,

797
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: whether it's Dez Tyron Smith, zeke Zach Martin, it doesn't

798
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: matter Amari Cooper. If he's upright, they win double digit games.

799
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's been sensational, and I think

800
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: it's just like anything else. I don't care if you're

801
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: a dentist, a sportscaster, or a quarterback. You just you

802
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: do something long enough you don't have to think about it.

803
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: And he did this a couple times today where clearly

804
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: the first two people weren't open. You're watching his head,

805
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: they're not open, and you can just his sense of

806
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: the pocket and pressure is so good. He just has

807
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't get nervous. He's just and he's also a

808
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: big guy. I mean, Dak to the average person in America,

809
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: even among pro athletes, Dak is big. He's thick. You know,

810
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: when guys get older, these pros, they've been in a

811
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: pro weight room forever and they also eat, and so

812
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks aren't cut. You know, quarterbacks they've got pudding. Dak's

813
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: a big human being, and I just watch him when

814
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: the pocket collapses, He's totally comfortable. You know. He's just

815
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: a really, really good football player, and I don't think

816
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I think he has really great

817
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 1: tight ends. I will say Javonte Williams, the running back,

818
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: has returned to that early Denver form. He's pretty damn explosive.

819
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't go down with one tackle.

820
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: Listen, their defense and major question mark. But the one

821
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: reason I was just thinking, like, I can't totally write

822
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: him off. The kicker they have is a major weapon.

823
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: So this is not college football. A lot of your

824
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: games are just gonna be within the balance of a score.

825
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: And if you get twenty thirty forty seconds on the

826
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: clock and you're down, you know two three points. That

827
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: guy can hit from seventy yards. I think Burkehart he

828
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: blasted a sixty two yard field goal today. He's like

829
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: that would have been good for eighty. I mean, he's

830
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: just he is. I don't think we've ever seen anything

831
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: quite like it. Now. I get it, these kickers have

832
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: access to the balls Monday through Saturday, but is that

833
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: really making a ten yard different it's remarkable whatever these

834
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: guys are doing. And that guy is the cream of

835
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: the crop right now because his ball doesn't even move

836
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: in the air. It's just right down the middle sixty five.

837
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: You don't even think about it. How good are they

838
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 2: like their red zone packages with Brian Schottenheimer, guys like open,

839
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: it's been really really impressive to watch. He's you know,

840
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: sometimes if you miss your window, I think sometimes in coaching, right,

841
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: this sport's pretty fickle and injury here all of a sudden,

842
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: you go from a hot name to a negative name.

843
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, he was somewhere in the middle. He

844
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: maybe got a little too hot when he was young,

845
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: but he kind of fell off the radar. He remember

846
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: he got with Russ Wilson. He got fired there in

847
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: Seattle and just he kind of fell off the map.

848
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: But clearly like this guy knows a little something about

849
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: offensive football.

850
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that their red zone packages are late

851
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: half are really It's like, I mean, honestly, it looks

852
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: a little bit like Denver and a little bit like

853
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Like there's just when you get into a

854
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: congested area and there's guys wide open that that's coaching

855
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: and I think I think Dallas deserves a ton of credit.

856
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Tony before we leave and

857
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: some college football. So the Eagles beat the Vikings twenty

858
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: eight to twenty two. It was an interesting day because

859
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was actually great down the field. You know,

860
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: that's been a big knock. It's a they can't run

861
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: the football anymore. They literally cannot run the football. You know,

862
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Jalen has has heard what people have said. He's a

863
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: super competitive guy. Devonte Smith, aj Brown, I mean, it

864
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: was it was big game hunting, and you know, Carson

865
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: Wentz is Carson Wentz. You know, he's just but Jalen

866
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: in the end was nineteen to twenty three, perfect passer

867
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: rating three hundred and twenty six yards and anything over

868
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: ten yards. He was exceptional. You know, I've kind of

869
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: come to terms with Philadelphia. It's always going to be

870
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: a leaky faucet because Jalen has There's some limitations, but

871
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: there's so many ways to win in this league. From

872
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: a quarterback, there's the movers, there's the big guys. I mean,

873
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: right now, Burrow can't stay healthy, and we both love

874
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, like Jalen Hurts, stays healthy, Jalen Hurts leads.

875
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is pretty damn good over the top. He's

876
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: got that Russell Wilson thing in his prime. He's pretty

877
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: damn good over the top. He runs, he's great on

878
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: the tush push, And I've just kind of come to

879
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: terms with when they're healthy, they're not great at corner.

880
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: But when they're healthy, a lot of their guy he's

881
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: going to look like this. They're just going to have

882
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: bad stretches. It will almost be like if the Dodgers

883
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: didn't have as good as starting pitching, they would have

884
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: bad stretches if they face good pitching. Like there, he's

885
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: not gifted enough in the pocket to get easy completions.

886
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: It feels like everything kind of feels like work. Now

887
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: they can't run the ball anymore. But I thought this

888
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: game today, the vikings off of by at a tough

889
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: place to play. Philly's a little beat up. I thought

890
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: it was a pretty impressive win.

891
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Did any two plays some up Jalen Hurts more than

892
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: at the end of the game. They ran a slant

893
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: I think it was like second and ten and he

894
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: throws it behind AJ Brown. It's like, oh my god,

895
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to punt and the Minnesota is gonna

896
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: get and then the next play they run the double move,

897
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: fake the slant and he goes hits him in stride

898
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: and you just went all all game long. He hit

899
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: Devonte Smith on a deep bomb for a touchdown early

900
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: in the game, he hit aj Brown and then when

901
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: when it was all on the line, they put it

902
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: in his hands and he came really on second anthrow down.

903
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: They trusted him enough, so I would say this it

904
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: was a good moment for the OC to just kind

905
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: of get everyone that they're not gonna be able to

906
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: run the ball because their centers banged up. Who's a

907
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: little bit of an overrated player, but their their star

908
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: guard Dickerson's out and their right guard situation has been

909
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: influx because they couldn't pay beckten he leaves. So last

910
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: year their interior offensive line, we know their tackles, they said,

911
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: arguably the best offensive line in the league. In Saquan

912
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: Let's face it, like pretty motivated last year, pretty big

913
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder, wins the Super Bowl, doing a

914
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: lot of commercials living life. Now, you know, life's good,

915
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: and I totally understand it. It's hard to be motivated.

916
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: As he got to the pinnacle, he proved the Giants

917
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: they were wrong. He doesn't he just maybe there's just

918
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: a natural wear and tear on the tires. Yeah, we've

919
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: seen now two years in a row, McCaffrey a couple

920
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: of years ago, Sakuan. When you have this historic number

921
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: of matches, usually little slower the next year. Everyone's be

922
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: lined on you. But here's what you know about the

923
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: Eagles and when Jalen's on. How many teams have DeVante

924
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: Smith and aj Brown? I mean it's like you just

925
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: kipt those guys the ball. You're unstopped. I bet how

926
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: He's up there in the in the box always like

927
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: just throw these guys the ball, bro go. I mean

928
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: this thing like to go deep. Unlike bo Nicks, he

929
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: has a lot of touch on deep breaking routes.

930
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: What's amazing about Philadelphia's offenses last year they would just

931
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: squish people with time of possession. They didn't have the ball.

932
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean the Vikings had the ball. I mean, if

933
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: you were casually watching this game on the red zone,

934
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: every time you turn on, it felt like Minnesota had

935
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: the ball. You know.

936
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, Carson was atrocious. At parts of this game.

937
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: They were horrible guys wide open. He was bad.

938
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: He was bad. And again, you know they wanted Sam Donald.

939
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: You and I know that they wanted Sam Donald. I

940
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: mean the JJ McCarthy thing. He can't stay healthy. So

941
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: it's Minnesota has been well run since the seventies and

942
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: they have like Buffalo. Now, Buffalo's had long stretches where

943
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: they were really a mess. I mean, Jim Kelly years

944
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: were great, the Josh Allen years are great, but they

945
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of lean years. They had leaned decades.

946
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean New England went twelve years, just beat them

947
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: twice a year. Minnesota's been like Kansas City. They've been

948
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: playoffs or borderline playoffs for most of my life. It's

949
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: just when you get Mahomes, it changes everything. Minnesota's just

950
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: waiting for that great quarterback they probably should have signed.

951
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: It was hard. They gave up a fourth and a

952
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: fifth to move up to get JJ McCarthy. I think

953
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: they wanted to sign Sam Darnold, but Sam flake you

954
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: drafted the guy I want to know. I mean, Sam

955
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: and his agent made the right call. But now you're trapped.

956
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: You kind of have to play JJ and I think

957
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: inside the building they have real doubts about it.

958
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: I think Breer talked about this last week, you kind

959
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: of resurface they had tried to go all in for

960
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: Drake May. Did you talk about that last week on

961
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: your show? Like they had they had offered I think

962
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: their two first round picks and the four the next

963
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: year's number one, like they put an enormous package, and

964
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: the Patriots smartly just said no. But let's face it,

965
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: like they do feel now and you have Kevin O'Connell,

966
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: so you never know, like you found Sam Donold, like

967
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: they could find a party type, but they could have

968
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: a little couple of years of like being like the

969
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: Colts right now, because you're like Wentz definitely is not it.

970
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean he's on this is sixteen and six years

971
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: and let's face it, at this point in time, how

972
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: could you have any faith in JJ McCarthy just to

973
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: stay healthy, let alone be a good player. So you

974
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: watch them, you go, they the personnel's pretty good. They're

975
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: coaching is good. But if you don't have a quarterback,

976
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: I mean there were guys. Even on the one that

977
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: Hawkinson they called a drop. I thought it was a catch,

978
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: but I get the rule. He was wide open and

979
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Carson like does this like side arm, like he's chuck knoblock,

980
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: just just lobbing the ball and have him catch in

981
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: the bread basket. What are you doing?

982
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

983
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 2: And that that cost him. And but that's like Carson

984
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: wentz your quarterback twenty twenty five, what are you gonna do?

985
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: JJ comes back next week or in two weeks. They

986
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 2: got problems that stability at that position because you couldn't

987
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: watch it any moment because the players around him, I

988
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: mean justin Jefferson spectacular. Honestly, the talent relative to the

989
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: Eagles was pretty equal. The quarterback play. The gap was

990
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: how he had to feel pretty good. I got rid

991
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: of that guy for this guy.

992
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: I won, Yeah, no question. I want to talk about this.

993
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: The Rams beat the Jags thirty five to seven, And

994
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: if you watched that game, it was twenty one nothing

995
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: at half. You were watching a great organization, a great coach,

996
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: a great quarterback, and a great receiver. But it was

997
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: really an organizational win they got in twenty four hours

998
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: before the game. The Jags, by the way, had more

999
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: yards and more yards per play and lost thirty five

1000
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: to seven. The Jags had a touchdown called back, multiple sacks.

1001
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor Lawrence got whacked more mistakes. I gotta

1002
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: tell you. I watched the Rams. They are such a

1003
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: well run organization. They had a seventh round rookie have

1004
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown. They had the other rookie. I think he's

1005
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: a second or third round Terrence ferguson the tight end

1006
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: from Oregon. Suddenly they're deep at tight end. They're not flashy.

1007
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean because Stafford's not going to give you any

1008
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: cheap yards in the outside, like unlike a bo Nicks

1009
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: for dark even young guys. You know, Stafford athletically at

1010
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: this point is closer to Jacoby Brissett. He's going to

1011
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: sit in the pocket. And I mean, just let's be honest.

1012
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Denver does not win the game without bow Knicks's legs,

1013
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: and the Giants don't win without Jackson Dart's legs. Like

1014
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: Stafford is a great pocket passer. But you know there's

1015
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: three or four times a year or a game you'd

1016
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: love Matt just to take off and pick up fourteen

1017
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: yards because sometimes the defense creates pressure. They guess, right.

1018
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: But I'm watching him today when he's on and he

1019
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: has bad halfs when Matt Stafford was dialed in today

1020
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: he and Devant I mean, in a weird way. The

1021
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Pooka injury was great because Devonte Adams now he was

1022
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: the focus of the offense this I guess takeout Kansas City.

1023
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: I feel like McVeigh is the second best coach in

1024
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: the NFL.

1025
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I set my alarm this morning for

1026
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: six thirty. I hit snooze, and by the time I

1027
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: opened my eyes and turned that thing on, DeVante was

1028
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: just scoring his first touchdown. It was fourteen to nothing

1029
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: and they were off to the races, and that thing

1030
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: was over. I mean, the game was the game was

1031
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: over before halftime. He is kind of an underrated MVP

1032
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: candidate right now, Colin. He's got seventeen touchdowns and two

1033
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: interceptions this year this season, and you know when Puka

1034
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 2: comes back, he is going to be able to build

1035
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 2: a rapport. Like one thing with Devonte, it's a little

1036
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: more of a timing right back shoulder throws like that's

1037
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: what he always hung his hat on with Aaron. You

1038
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: saw today some of those over the shoulder, some of

1039
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: those in the red zone. If they developed like a

1040
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: serious report, he already has it with Puka. That's pretty dangerous,

1041
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, especially the way their defense, their front can

1042
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: just dominate the game, dominate. So it's like I was

1043
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 2: high on Jacksonville. I think they've been pretty impressive this year.

1044
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: That was pretty embarrassing. I didn't they showed up twenty

1045
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: four hours before. Did they stay on the East Coast

1046
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: and then just.

1047
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: Fay stayed they practiced The Rams practice at Camden Yards

1048
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. They came over. I mean the first half

1049
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: was one of the smartest, most crisp efficient first halfs

1050
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: by any team this year. I mean the Rams just

1051
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: march down the field, play action, clever, a lot of

1052
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: double tight ends. At one point, I think they had

1053
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: three tight ends on the field. They used all of them.

1054
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: Davis Allen, Terrence Ferguson, is it, Tyler Higbee, Colby Parkinson.

1055
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they used all their tight ends. I thought

1056
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: it was such a chris. I thought it was an

1057
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: organizational win. It was, And you know McVeigh tends to

1058
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: do this. He won't play his rookies early and the

1059
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: fans will complain about have come Terrence Ferguson's not playing.

1060
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: But tight end as difficult, as you know, because tight

1061
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: ends don't have to block. You know, in the NFL

1062
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: you have to block. In college, you can kind of play. Now,

1063
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: there are some programs like Michigan Harbaugh makes his tight

1064
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: ends block, Utah Kyle Whittingham makes his tight ends block.

1065
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys don't, so you know, they

1066
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: spread it out and they're just they're like they're like

1067
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: receivers that are a little bit slower but bigger. But

1068
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: I watched the Rams in the first half, and I'm like,

1069
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: this is an organizational win. They're such Jacksonville is just

1070
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: just kind of a little loose and I think you

1071
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: saw one of the most efficient, well runned organizations in

1072
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: the sport and one of the loosest organizations in the sport.

1073
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: And that's what I watched, because Jacksonville had the yards,

1074
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: the yards per play, and they just unraveled and mashed

1075
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: thirty five to seven.

1076
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: One thing, Colin, if you look the last couple of years, right,

1077
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: these last two years they won ten and ten, right,

1078
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: So twenty games he has thrown in twenty three through

1079
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: twenty four touchdowns and last year he threw twenty touchdowns

1080
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: and this year, like he's on pace for probably in

1081
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: the mid thirties. So if you're getting the guy with

1082
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: the way their defense is playing. I saw Schrager up

1083
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: Chris Shula, who deserves a lot of credit. He's been

1084
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: excellent as defensive coordinator. But if you're getting thirty five

1085
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: ish touchdowns out of Stafford, like this isn't a ten

1086
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: win team, it's a twelve or thirteen win team, you know,

1087
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: with that defense and that potency. I mean DeVante Adams

1088
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: he's just a pro, but he doesn't work with every

1089
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: quarterback like part of the reason him and Jimmy look

1090
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 2: so lost, or even him and Derek Carr like their

1091
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: accuracy they're touching the red zones not the same you

1092
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: saw Stafford today. I mean he can do that shit

1093
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: with his eyes closed. I mean, well some of those

1094
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: pinpoint over the shoulder, over the dB like that. That

1095
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: is going to be a potent weapon for them to

1096
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: go when Puoka's healthy. That you like them in those

1097
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: big games like down the stretch of the season.

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00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Marvin Harrison and Deavonte Adams and George

1099
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: Pickens are great. They don't necessarily separate Ceedee Lamb and

1100
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson separate. Rashi Rice has the ability. He separates.

1101
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith separates.

1102
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: Totally separates, but George Pickens doesn't. He's just a great player,

1103
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: remember and Kwon Bolden just throw it up like Davante.

1104
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: I think he did separate more, probably four or five

1105
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: years ago. But what he is is strong long. I

1106
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: mean again, some of these receivers have kind of an

1107
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: NBA quality where big hands really long. They're just strong.

1108
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: So DeVante needs the right quarterback. George Pickens has never

1109
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: looked this consistently good. Well, Dak Prescart's a huge part

1110
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: of that equation because Dak knows where to throw it.

1111
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: So some guys separate. That's you know in the NBA,

1112
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: they always say the great players can score without a screen.

1113
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: They get their own shot. And I've talked to gms

1114
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: in the NBA that say, it's not nearly as many

1115
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: people as you think can get their own shot. It's

1116
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: a lot of MJ's and Kobe's and you know SGA's,

1117
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: but you know, Luca, most guys need a screen, most

1118
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: guys need a.

1119
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: Toomp's the Hall of Famer couldn't get his own shot.

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Speaker 1: That's right. In the end, NFL, you think all these

1121
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: guys are on four to two Eight's a lot of

1122
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: these guys don't separate. It's everybody plays zone. Everybody can bracket.

1123
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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson today had to cash up the sideline and

1124
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: just literally caught it, looked trapped and just sprinted down

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Speaker 1: the side, just flew past pro athletes. You're like, Jesus,

1126
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: this guy is past like eagle players are just flying.

1127
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: He was trapped.

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Speaker 1: He's a ran right past everybody. But I think I

1129
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: think DeVante without Pooka there today, It's like, okay, this

1130
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Speaker 1: is my offense. It was a really impressive organizational win. Well,

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Speaker 1: last NFL thought Cleveland beats Miami. I think thirty one

1159
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Speaker 1: to six. They bench to it too is horrible no

1160
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns three picks. Cleveland now is one in five. They

1161
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: no longer. The Jets are going to get the number

1162
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: one pick. It looks like Mendoz at Indiana, Dante More

1163
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: whoever they picked, maybe Ty Simpson from Alabama. Cleveland's actually functional.

1164
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland is well coached. Cleveland. I think that running back

1165
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: int of Ohio State had a hell of a day Milesgarre.

1166
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland's a functional team. I think they traded Flacco away

1167
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: because they thought they'd win six games with Flacco. I

1168
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: really do. I think they thought, God, we beat Green Bay,

1169
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: We're going to win five to six games here. We

1170
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Miami. They're not the Jets

1171
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: or the Titans. Miami is a disaster. I mean, to me,

1172
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: i'd move everybody, the GM. The coach in Tua. I

1173
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: think somebody would buy to a Dome team or something.

1174
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Tua has a market?

1175
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: No? I mean he mayn't wagh too much money. No,

1176
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: it makes too much money. You know. Part of their

1177
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: problem has always been and like when weather changes, they struggle,

1178
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: and it makes sense, right, I mean, they live in

1179
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: ninety degrees, what three hundred and fifty days a year.

1180
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty beautiful. Their coach today looked so uncomfortable on

1181
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: the sideline, like he was cold. If he represents that,

1182
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: what do you think the team? Everything about one thing

1183
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: that's Cleveland's defense is really good, Like they are not

1184
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: a bad you put their unit on like the Steelers,

1185
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: you'd have a Super Bowl contender. You can combine their

1186
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: offense with that defense. But Miami, like we knew this offseason.

1187
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: They told us right, And I honestly defended Tua in

1188
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: his comments last week about the people late, like it's

1189
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: not your job, Like it's not Seal Team six's job

1190
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: to create the missions they get told what to do.

1191
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: It's the coach's job to set the discipline. So when

1192
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: you get all these players being late, that's you know,

1193
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: even Peyton Manning or Tom Brady like they need the

1194
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: head coach or the GM to set the tone in

1195
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: the organization. Then they can help voice it out. But

1196
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: like it starts with Mike McDaniel and really the GM

1197
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: the type guys that you bring into your organization. So

1198
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: when you see these high level teams that win a lot,

1199
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: it's because the type human beings they bring into the

1200
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: locker room and you bring. If you look at Miami,

1201
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: like there's not really a rhyme or reason to anything

1202
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: they've done. And everyone's coming down on Tua, which he's not.

1203
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: He's having an atrocious season, but like it's to me,

1204
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: it's way above his head, Like he's just he's a

1205
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: cog in this thing, and he is a functional player.

1206
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: If he made twenty million dollars one hundred percent, someone

1207
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: problem is he's got this enormous contract. I don't think

1208
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: unless they ate some of the money or you know,

1209
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not movable, but he's kind of

1210
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: like a Kyler Murray situation. Money's way too much.

1211
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna draft like a Tye Simpson with

1212
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: like the fifth pick, and then I think they're gonna pay.

1213
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: What they're gonna do is what Denver did with bo

1214
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Nicks is like we're just gonna eat some dead cap.

1215
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: Can we get somebody to pay a little bit of it?

1216
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Denver's been fine with all that dead cap.

1217
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean the dead CAP's funny if if you remember

1218
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: all the people Denver flushed out, they didn't flush out

1219
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: the general manager. Sean Payton likes the general manager. He

1220
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: could have easily just said I'm doing it. I mean

1221
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Denver because they drafted well and they hit on bow nicks.

1222
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: You can You're fine with that dead cap stuff. You

1223
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: just have to hit on like four or five draft picks.

1224
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: And Greer hasn't shown the ability to Miami to do that.

1225
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny. I want to transition to college.

1226
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: So you know, I watched Ty Simpson this weekend. I

1227
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: watched Mendoza for Indiana. I think Dante More is good.

1228
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: I think there's three really good college quarterbacks. Nuss Meyer's okay,

1229
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: it's just not the guys we thought. Drew Aller to me,

1230
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: isn't a first round quarterback. I don't feel it. I

1231
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: don't think he has the jew. Some of it was coaching.

1232
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: Cave Kludnik is actually like Jackson Dart. He can actually move,

1233
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: He's got a decent arm, He's talented. I don't know

1234
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: how I feel about him. But I was sitting there

1235
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: looking at the mock draft last Friday before I did

1236
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: the Herd. It's the same teams, you know, It's all

1237
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: the same kind of teams. And I really do think

1238
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Speaker 1: I was watched a lot of college football the last

1239
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: three weeks. Ohio State's the only great team I think

1240
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: Indiana Bama, and I'm gonna say Notre Dame. So Notre Dame.

1241
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: I predicted they'd win by ten and run the ball

1242
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: because I and they did. I think Notre Dame's good.

1243
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they're great, but I don't think any

1244
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: of it. I don't think Ohio State's great. I think

1245
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State's defense is great. I think Carnell Tate the receiver,

1246
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: is a sensational player. Like the NFL, I think there's

1247
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 1: one really special team and then it's just a bunch

1248
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: of good. But I think I was watching Marcus Freeman

1249
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: and his agent texted me because I said, you have

1250
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: to pay Marcus Freeman whatever the market bears. You can't

1251
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: let him go. Notre Dame is a better job to

1252
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: me than Penn State. But Marcus Freeman is what a

1253
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: college coach should be today. Young, handsome, energetic recruiter, smart,

1254
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: just like to tough. He's tough like his teams. But

1255
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I said years ago Nebraska's done,

1256
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: and I think they are. I'm surprised at how good

1257
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is. I think Notre Dame can go toe.

1258
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame is one of the few teams

1259
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: that can go toe to toe with Ohio State. I

1260
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: think they have the quarterback. I think they have the

1261
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: run game. I think they have the intelligence. It's not

1262
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: just that they beat USC, but I mean they ran

1263
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: at will against USC. They looked really impressive. All right.

1264
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus Freeman, do you stay at Notre Dame?

1265
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: Because I think he's I don't think there's a job

1266
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: in college he would leave for. I think he stays

1267
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: forever at Notre Dame. But I watch him and I'm like,

1268
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: I listened to him. I watch him, I follow their recruiting.

1269
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: I think he's the next college guy to go pro.

1270
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, the only job I would leave him

1271
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: would be Ohio States, where he played. Uh, you're not

1272
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: leaving Notre Dame for Penn State. I mean you were

1273
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: just in the National championship game. They're gonna make the

1274
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: playoffs again, like they're going to run the table. Yes,

1275
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: and they are. They have probably the best running back

1276
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: combo in the league. I mean, how good that George

1277
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is just but but the backup that had

1278
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: the big kickoff return is a stud too.

1279
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: He's that good.

1280
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: I think he might go if if if Ashton Jenty

1281
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: can go six, he can go in the top ten.

1282
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: For sure. Here's the thing. At an academic power, you

1283
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: can build it. And Brian Kelly did this, you know,

1284
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: dominate the offensive line, dominate the running backs, and dominate

1285
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: the defensive personnel. And that's how they're there, That's how

1286
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: they're built, and that translates, especially now these playoff games

1287
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: are in the first round, which they're always going to

1288
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: have to play because they're probably not going to get

1289
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: a buye. Well, they're definitely not this year, cold environment. Well,

1290
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: what translates. They're running the ball, playing defense. Yeah, I

1291
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: actually thought USC was pretty impressive. You know, I didn't

1292
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: expect them to be that close as they were, and

1293
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: they had the lead at one point before the kid

1294
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: returned it to the house. But yeah, I mean I

1295
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: think I also think it's really really difficult to judge

1296
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: these teams now and look at Georgia. Georgia couldn't stop

1297
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin for three quarters every single drive touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

1298
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: The day and age of these dominant teams going back

1299
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: to Pete carroll A or Urban Meyer and Knicks, they're done.

1300
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: The transfer portal, even a good backup, and you like

1301
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: the coach, you just leave. So I think we got

1302
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: to look at it a little bit differently. But that's

1303
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: what's fun about this. You now, like Miami, you have

1304
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: no chance to win a national championship with Carson beck

1305
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: As you're starting quarterback right now? Can they win a

1306
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: playoff game? It's their talent for sure? Are they gonna

1307
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: win three straight playoff games with that guy playing quarterback?

1308
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: Did you see his comments after the game? He's pointing

1309
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: the finger at other people. That's the type stuff like

1310
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: that's not flying at Georgia that Kirby Smart would that

1311
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: would not fly with Marcus Freeman. Saban would have had

1312
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: a conniption. I bet Mario's not happy about those comments.

1313
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: But you buy a guy, you pay him, what's seven

1314
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: million dollars in free agency, he say whatever he wants.

1315
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: And that's where I think, like the culture at Notre Dame,

1316
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: like they started owing too. But you know what, it

1317
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: turns out they lost two pretty good teams. It wasn't

1318
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: the end of the year. And that's what this playoff

1319
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: thing it doesn't you know, back not that many years ago,

1320
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: you lost one game and it was over. Now it's

1321
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: a little more fun and it's the regular season. I

1322
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: don't know, to you, it still feels as powerful as ever.

1323
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: No, I mean I watch all the games. I never

1324
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: bought into that the sky is falling. Nonsense. The bottom

1325
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: line is the portal has really helped the rest of

1326
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: the country because it was lobsided. The SEC had backup

1327
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: corners that were better than everybody else's starters. Well, you

1328
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: know Georgia and Bama. Now Bama's struggling to keep up

1329
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: in the Nile. They don't have the money I mean

1330
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: fans to chip in.

1331
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: One theory I have and I wrote this down yesterday. Vanderbilt,

1332
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean Brian Kelly. He has been passed now by

1333
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: Ole Miss and now Vanderbilt like Vanderbilt work them. That

1334
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: was a lopsided game. The score does not reflect what

1335
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: I watched. Nashville. Is your daughter still live in Nashville?

1336
01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1337
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: Booming city, I mean money is flowing there. Scottsdale, ASU

1338
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: just beat Texas Tech, who has a twenty eight million

1339
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: dollar These cities that are booming before you need a booster,

1340
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: and you still do.

1341
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: Right.

1342
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: If you're Texas Tech, you got this billionaire. If you're Oregon,

1343
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: you got this billionaire, but not all these universities are

1344
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: just gonna have billionaire. Sometimes you're just gonna need Scottsdale

1345
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: has all these corporations moving here, so the athletic department

1346
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: might not have individuals, But what if I can go

1347
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: to corporations and get them to be part of the program.

1348
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: So it's like Carvana or door Dash or whoever. In Nashville,

1349
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: all these hubs, you can start going to them, They're

1350
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: gonna want to be involved in football. It's an advantage

1351
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: to be usc these big cities. Like how is some

1352
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: of these po done places. It's gonna be a little difficult.

1353
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm watching. Well, yeah, the school in Nashville is gonna

1354
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: have advantages that Baton Rouge in the NIL is simply

1355
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: not gonna have undeniable So like Ohio State a little

1356
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: bit of an outlier some of these big ten schools,

1357
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: but some of these SEC schools, like watch out for

1358
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt because they're gonna have money flowing into their program.

1359
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I made this prediction three years ago,

1360
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: and it may have been offensive, but I said, in

1361
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: these small southern towns, sometimes you're number two. Booster is

1362
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: a car dealer and There's nothing wrong with being a

1363
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: BMW dealer. I own a BMW. I love BMW, but

1364
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be your second richest donor if you're a

1365
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: top eight college football program, it should be like you know,

1366
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean at Michigan they have multiple billionaires and venture capitalists,

1367
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: and the Big ten schools are bigger. They're just bigger universities,

1368
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: and they flood the zone and then they circle back

1369
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: to their program. So this is something I said three

1370
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: years ago. It's one of the things I thought that

1371
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: would save the Pac twelve. It didn't, but I thought

1372
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: it would. Is the explosion of the nil because of

1373
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: all the Apple and Google Pac twelve kids. But the

1374
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: truth is those aren't sports fans. They don't care about football.

1375
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: So a lot of those USC UCLA grads, you know,

1376
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: they don't give back to the program. But the Big

1377
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: Ten Andrew.

1378
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: Andrew Locke got fifty million dollar from a guy, Like

1379
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: how many schools just have a guy that could just

1380
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: hand you fifty millions?

1381
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: Insane? By the way, Stanford beat Florida State. Want a win,

1382
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy? Okay, I want to wrap with this. So

1383
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: I always thought the greatest athlete, not the most dominant.

1384
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: Serena is probably the most dominant, or Michael Phelps and

1385
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: swimming is the most dominant. Usain Bolt. But the greatest

1386
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: athlete I thought I had ever seen was a guy

1387
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: named Carl Lewis. So Carl Lewis was in track and field.

1388
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: He was a very unique personality, not really appealing to

1389
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: the masses, I guess. But in nineteen eighty four he

1390
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: goes to the LA Olympics and he wins the one

1391
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: hundred meters, the two hundred meter, the long jump, I mean,

1392
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: winning any of those sensational. He wins all of them,

1393
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: and he win's a four by one hundred, so he

1394
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: wins like four golds. Then he goes to Soul in

1395
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: eighty eight and he mostly duplicates it. Then he goes

1396
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: to Barcelona in ninety two and he mostly duplicates it.

1397
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: And forget the PanAm Games or the Goodwill Games, or

1398
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: the World Championships in Tokyo and Helsinki and Stuttegarten, Rome

1399
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: or wherever they are. Then he comes back to it

1400
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: in ninety six, starts in eighty four ninety six. I

1401
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: mean there was just like a twelve year period. It

1402
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: was pan Am, Goodwill World Championship's, Olympics. He was dominated

1403
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: in everything. And then I'm watching Otani Friday, and I'm like,

1404
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth did not pitch and hit simultaneously. And remember

1405
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: the split finger fastball kind of came into baseball in

1406
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: the seventies or eighties with Bruce Souiter. Remember Bruce Suery

1407
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: pitched for the Cardinals and Cubs. He was a relief pitcher.

1408
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: He want to sigy up and he was a He

1409
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,919
Speaker 1: was the first guy to throw a split finger fastball.

1410
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth didn't face that stuff that those guys in

1411
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: the twenties and thirties and forties fifties, they weren't facing

1412
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: split finger fastball. For Otani to walk into this sport,

1413
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: to be a power hitter, to have that speed to

1414
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: hit for average, to be a dominant ace, he may

1415
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: have one of the top five splitters in baseball. His fastball,

1416
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: he punches out Jackson Curio in the first inning at

1417
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: one hundred. All of his off speed ranking stuff is

1418
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: above average. It's very good. Then he hits it out

1419
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: of the stadium. But I was sitting there watching and

1420
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think, how good Reggie Jackson was? I mean,

1421
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson was World Series MVP's iconic five hundred and

1422
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: fifty plus home runs. Reggie Jackson was a terrible fielder,

1423
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: didn't run the bases, not a good teammate. I think

1424
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: o Toanni is the greatest athlete I've ever seen. I mean,

1425
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan wasn't a great passer, he wasn't a great

1426
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: deep ball shooter. He was a great offensive, mid range player,

1427
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: rest relentless, and a great on ball defender. But I'm

1428
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: watching Otani and I'm like, he's a top top eight pitcher.

1429
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a top base stealer when he wants to.

1430
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: I just I sat there watching and I'm like Jesus

1431
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: to just be an elite pitcher. Hell, guys can't stay healthy.

1432
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: Snell Glass, no Dodgers, nobody can stay healthy. I just

1433
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: watching that game, I thought, this is the greatest single

1434
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: athlete I've ever seen in any sport. That was my

1435
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: take on it.

1436
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely the greatest game that's ever been played.

1437
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: Ten strikeouts, three home runs in the NLCS, Like, that's

1438
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: something you see the kid in the Little League that's

1439
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: going to be on all the travel teams. That's twelve

1440
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: years old. You wouldn't even you'd be hard pressed to

1441
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: find that in high school, you know. I think LA

1442
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: this year had a couple guys that were drafted in

1443
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: the top ten, like high school players. I would be

1444
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: shocked because typically now that they focus on one, they're

1445
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 2: not playing both ways. So the guys in the league pitcher,

1446
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: he's just pitching, if the guys in the league hit,

1447
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: or he's just playing shortstop. I vividly remember when he

1448
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: first started playing for Anaheim, because you had heard all

1449
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: this hype and the Giants tried to sign him coming

1450
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: out of Japan. I didn't realize how tall and fast

1451
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: he was. And I remember, like a ball that most

1452
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: power hitters do not make it a second. He not

1453
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: only made it a second, he was there with ease,

1454
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: and you went, holy shit, But you see that, guys.

1455
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: If Shoheo Tani was born in Los Angeles or Dallas,

1456
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: Texas or something, he's probably a quarterback right potentially, he's

1457
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 2: six foot five, two hundred and ten pounds. He's definitely

1458
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: playing a lot of different sports growing up. Who knows,

1459
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: maybe basketball as well. I mean maybe because he's athletically

1460
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: he's an elite athlete. Yes, you know you watch the Yankees,

1461
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: it's like all their players look the same. You watched

1462
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: the I remember two years ago going to a spring

1463
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: training game with Maria and we had really good seats

1464
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, I thought, Mookie Betts is an

1465
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: outfielder and he's playing short and second base. I'm like,

1466
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: this is insane. It's like this guy I thought. I

1467
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: thought he played like right field in centerfield, he can

1468
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: play shortstop and he had to play in this series.

1469
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: Then it was like Derek Jeter is like, so they're

1470
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: two best players. And I saw, you know, Matt Muney Smith,

1471
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Speaker 2: he had charger games with him and DJ came down.

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Speaker 2: I played golf with them like last year. But I

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: saw this clip that he posted interviewing Andrew Friedman and

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01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: he's like, what do you say to everyone saying you

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Speaker 2: just bought this team? And He's like, we play all

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Speaker 2: these teams that have all these star player players, and

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Speaker 2: I see none of them out early. You know, three

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon. You come out and you watch

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01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, Mookie Bett, Shoeo, all of our star players,

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman are doing extra work, like Peyton Manning, Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady tiger Wood style. So it's like this isn't random

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: their greatness. Obviously they have freak talents, but like clearly

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Speaker 2: from a team building standpoint, like really they they kind

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Speaker 2: of got like a Patriot vibe going, like they're all

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 2: just it's like, this is a serious group. Now. Obviously

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01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 2: show hey, you know, because he didn't pitch that well

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01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 2: this year, no Granny was coming back off the injury.

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: But he's got a pitch like that and hit like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like there's never been that home run. Listen, I'm

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: a Barry I'm a Giants fan at heart. That's a

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Speaker 2: Barry Bonds level home run on the cream and the

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Speaker 2: clear with Balco, right, I mean, that's that was That

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Speaker 2: was insane. How far that ball you can see it?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when Barry hit the ball against Anaheim

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Speaker 2: in the two World Series and I think Tim Salmon

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Speaker 2: was in the it was in the dugout and he mouthed,

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Speaker 2: that's the farthest ball I've ever seen hit. Obviously, you

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Speaker 2: know Barry was kind of a mutant by then. The

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: Dodgers faces in the dugout all kind of had that vibe.

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Speaker 2: I know, we've never seen a ball hit this far.

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Speaker 1: Ever, Yeah, it's it's just remarkable to watch him. And

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Speaker 1: you know I've said this, I think the Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: the best run organization in North America. Max Munsey, the

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Speaker 1: A's cut him. I mean, Tommy Edmund was a two

1505
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Speaker 1: sixty hitter in Saint Louis. He was a good fielder.

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01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals were like, we don't want to pay him. He

1507
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: was the NLCS MVP. I mean, Glassno's always had good

1508
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: stuff six seven, but he can't stay healthy. So let mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no question they can roll what the Dodgers biggest

1510
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: advantage isn't just like oh Otani because other teams could

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Speaker 1: have paid for him, but great players want to play

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers. Because Otani comes up I five to

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, he has better people hitting in front of

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Speaker 1: him and behind him, and the pressure isn't for him

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Speaker 1: to go four for four. Oh Tani had a terrible

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01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 1: series until that game Friday. He couldn't get So I

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: think it's it's like one of these things. There's a

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Speaker 1: reason five star players want to go play for Ohio

1519
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: State or Georgia because you're surrounded by better players, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's like that if you're a great like Freddie

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Speaker 1: Freeman was playing for Atlanta, but it's like, look who's

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Speaker 1: hitting in front of me, Look who's hitting behind me?

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Speaker 1: You get better pitches.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say this, you would say Otani and

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Speaker 2: Mookie Betts. You know, Manny and Poppy were incredible power

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Speaker 2: but neither of them could run. I mean it's got

1527
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Speaker 2: to be when you talk about all around game, the

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Speaker 2: two most talented players that have ever played together, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how do you beat that? Offensively and defensively. You've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of these duos one to just mash. I

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Speaker 2: bet you know Mannel and Garrig if we go back

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