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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky and Baldy as

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Speaker 1: we get a chance to talk about incredible weekend of football. Man,

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Speaker 1: there are some great games, unbelievable college game which we'll

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Speaker 1: hit on tomorrow when HTT comes back to join the

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Speaker 1: show with Indiana Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: We'll have some fun with that.

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Speaker 1: But NFL wise, Baldy, this might be my favorite week

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Speaker 2: It's unreal.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, these games went down to the wire.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was in Baltimore that happened there. We

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Speaker 3: watched Chicago Green Bays go down in the wire, Kansas City, Houston.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was really and it was you know

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Speaker 3: for playoff seeding. To think that Chicago could start the

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Speaker 3: day off as the number one seed in the NFC

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Speaker 3: lose the game to Green Bay by I mean just

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Speaker 3: a couple of different plays, maybe one pass and finish

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Speaker 3: the seventh seed right now.

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Speaker 2: It just goes to show you, like, there's so much

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Speaker 2: more football to be played.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes at you fast, by the way, Buck,

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Speaker 1: if you if you're wondering looking at Baldi's gear. Here,

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Speaker 1: we've got Baldi Breakdown Polo. We've got a Baldi Breakdown hat, Baldy,

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Speaker 1: this is merch. Where can the folks find it? Where

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Speaker 3: They can just go to baldis breakdowns dot com and

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Speaker 3: they can order away my buddy down in uh Monroe, Louisia.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we used to call it when I went to

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Speaker 2: college there, bald we called it fun there go. That

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Speaker 2: was the spot.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Buck, I've got a list of these games that

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Speaker 1: I want to get to, and there's a list of

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Speaker 1: games I have in order here. But I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make an executive decision here because I feel like

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Speaker 1: I think your Jags might be the most untold story

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Speaker 1: to the point where like they're they're still alive for

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Speaker 1: the number one seed. That's where they are right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to tell you, DJ, It's one of

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Speaker 4: the more remarkable things to watch and witness, like a

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Speaker 2: Like I say this.

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Speaker 4: Coaching high school ball, like you see players developed, you

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Speaker 4: see the team come and you see the connectivity. But man,

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Speaker 4: the job that Liam Cohen has done in terms of

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Speaker 4: quarterback that was trying to find his way forth different system,

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out who's who and what's what, and

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Speaker 4: there's a way that you go about doing business. The

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Speaker 2: It is just fun to watch, you know, you know buckets.

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Speaker 3: I went up to Jacksonville like during I don't know

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Speaker 2: I'm driving up. Let me spend the day.

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Speaker 3: So because it does start at the top, Bucky, like,

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Speaker 2: I feel for the first time they're actually in alignment.

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Speaker 1: I think that that alignment word is the is the buzzword,

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Speaker 2: So Buck like they've lined it up.

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Speaker 1: You want to have a physical team that a team

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Speaker 2: They've kind of put all their ducks in a row here.

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Speaker 4: And it is about the coach freeing him and saying,

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Speaker 2: U DJ do me a favor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look up Devin Lloyd when he came out of Utah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a big part of this whole turnaround, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got it. I'll pull it up right here.

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Speaker 1: We did this, not we've done this before. To find

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Speaker 1: Lloyd and Lloyd's a tall, rangy linebacker with exemplary versatility

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Speaker 2: There you go, man, you got that, like spot on,

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Speaker 2: That's who he is this year. Completely. The over ability

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Speaker 1: We've said this is we've kind of towards the end

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing, because there was some frustration in

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Speaker 4: And DJ your report reads to a t in terms

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Speaker 1: We got Houston k Cy, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Chicago, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: And we can't say we play favorites here because we

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Speaker 2: Casey's still alive, But they are clinging to their last breath.

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Speaker 3: Here they are, and you know we we we left

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Speaker 3: They're gonna go up fourteen to ten. Last year, he

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Speaker 3: Like now it's you know, nobody even second guest Andy

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Speaker 3: Give them credit, but Houston's defense is going to like

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Speaker 3: I wrote it down here, they're seven and oh when

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Speaker 2: They're not that team anymore.

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Speaker 4: And they had fought like the Dickens to be in

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Speaker 2: And I never thought that they would be able to

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Speaker 3: But they couldn't block Chris Jones all night. Like, he

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Speaker 2: It was the best game I seen him playing a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going through his stuff this morning, Baldi

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Speaker 2: Had eight pressures.

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Speaker 2: Was just this. It was a swipe right.

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Speaker 1: I wrote down Mario and Rivera. It is the same

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Speaker 1: He does that as well as anybody.

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Speaker 2: Man. No, no, no, no, It's consistent. It's consistent.

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Speaker 3: And in his takeoff like that guy is jacked up

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Speaker 3: just there's not enough. You know, everybody wants one of

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Speaker 2: Up to get him?

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Speaker 1: They traded yes, because yeah, that was they took straight,

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Speaker 3: I just remember the whole scouting process when he was

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Speaker 2: He started.

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Speaker 3: and it's just it has just continued.

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Speaker 2: Uh. He just played. He does everything the right way.

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Speaker 3: Leverage, hands, power, effort, like he's just he's just an

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Speaker 2: Right now, last thing will wrap up and move on

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Speaker 2: this one. But the sign of.

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Speaker 1: A of a kind of a generational player in terms

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Speaker 1: because every time it's Hey Booker, he was like the

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Speaker 1: like they talked about defense. Good player, I mean, not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the number one compunk.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, he's the measuring stick, you know, He's the

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Speaker 1: But I think you have a heck of an asset

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like, I think this is the first

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Speaker 4: and Chris Jones is the asset that we can move

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Speaker 4: So very much like INDOMICATESU at the end of his

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Speaker 4: that's where Chris Jones is going to be at this stage.

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Speaker 4: But for the Chiefs, they need that long term thing

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Speaker 1: By the way, before we leave this game, Straud played

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Speaker 1: well and if Stroud to me, this is very reminiscent

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Speaker 2: They want they always wide to hit.

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Speaker 1: You gotta hit him, like Stroud to me, doesn't need

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Speaker 2: But it was so mahomes life, like he's being chased.

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Speaker 3: He's got Karloftis, he's got Tranquil, They're all coming after him.

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Speaker 2: And his roles was right.

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Speaker 3: It's just hanging out there. But he gets enough on

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Speaker 3: They punted a whole bunch, but they didn't turn the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the team again.

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Speaker 1: Anybody wants us to have anything to do with Houston

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Buffalo another incredibly entertaining game in the snow. Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati is so competitive with the with the best teams

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Speaker 1: In the last three years so this year, in the

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Speaker 3: Well When he busted that forty yard touchdow up the middle,

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Speaker 3: Demetrius nights on coverage, you know, on Shakira at the

438
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 3: end zone right there, it goes right by his earlobe.

439
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Speaker 2: Some of them.

440
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Speaker 3: He can still put the highlights together as well as

441
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Speaker 3: anybody in this business.

442
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Speaker 4: Look, man, I just have always thought that he was

443
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 4: a version of Cam Newton with the stuff that Sean

444
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 4: McDermott and Brandon being wanted in terms of he gave

445
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Speaker 4: them that physical presence that is.

446
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 2: Really really tough to deal with in the red zone.

447
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Speaker 4: And the thing about Josh Allen that we've talked about

448
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 4: is when I went to see him at the the

449
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 4: Potato Bowl when Boys he played Western Michigan, and he

450
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 4: was inaccurate and he was.

451
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: Playing with a bunch of non descript players.

452
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Speaker 4: I never could imagine that this dude would be arguably

453
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Speaker 4: the best quarterback in the league given what he displayed then.

454
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Speaker 2: But I would say it's not only the skills that

455
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Speaker 2: he brings.

456
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Speaker 4: I would say it's the maturation that he is displayed,

457
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 4: where he's going from being the playmaker that is wild

458
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 4: and reckless to being the guy that knows when to

459
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: put the cape on when the game is hanging in

460
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,719
Speaker 4: the balance. And because he's able to do that, he

461
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: knows how to protect himself and preserve himself for these moments.

462
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 4: The only way the Buffalo Bills can make a deep

463
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Speaker 4: postseason run is if he does these superhero things each

464
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Speaker 4: and every week going forward.

465
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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't bet against him being able to do it.

466
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Speaker 4: Which is why you kind of put an astray by

467
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 4: the Bills, because as number seventeen goes, this team is

468
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Speaker 4: going to go when it comes to the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Well, when they've had better players on the perimeter, he

470
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 1: hasn't had to do that, and he's showing the maturity

471
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Speaker 1: to not, you know, even try to do that. And

472
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Speaker 1: we said it earlier this year, there were times where

473
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Speaker 1: I thought he was preserving himself a little bit, knowing

474
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Speaker 1: like Okay, I can't do this all the time.

475
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Speaker 2: But when it's needed, I need to do it.

476
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Speaker 1: Well, he found himself in a shootout with Joe Burrow

477
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: and so he had he had to crank it up

478
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: a little bit on this one. You know, to me, Baldy,

479
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 1: if they hit, if they hit on all these draft

480
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: picks around him, which they haven't really done on the perimeter,

481
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Speaker 1: then I don't think he'd have to be this superman

482
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Speaker 1: And in some ways it might end up shortening his

483
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Speaker 1: career a little bit. I hope they can add some

484
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Speaker 1: better pieces in the future so that he didn't have

485
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: to dial this up to eleven like this. But he's

486
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Speaker 1: got it for sure. He's got it if you need it.

487
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Speaker 1: I just I'd like to see them build a roster

488
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Speaker 1: where he doesn't necessarily have to do that quite so much.

489
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Speaker 3: Jackson Hall's bailed him out at the goal line there yesterday.

490
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: That guy can lock man. He's catching some touchdown. The

491
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Speaker 3: tight ends really helped them. It's a tight end based offense.

492
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Speaker 3: I saw a couple of guys though defensively though, DJ,

493
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Speaker 3: you know they did guys in the middle round. You

494
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Speaker 3: know that that was like, I don't know, I just

495
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 3: thought it was a great defensive line draft.

496
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Speaker 2: But TJ.

497
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: Sanders, Day one Walker, like these guys are Max Harrison,

498
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Speaker 3: like the defensive guys are contributing.

499
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Speaker 2: I know Eorro put up a big number at.

500
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati, but they didn't run the ball very well against

501
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Speaker 3: that front. I thought the big guys up front, I

502
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: thought they were a little limited in what you can

503
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: do with Sanders and Walker, But for what they're asking

504
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: him to do, I thought they they played pretty well.

505
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Speaker 3: And they need them. They need those guys, you know,

506
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Speaker 3: to step up. Day Kwon Jones is still around somehow

507
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: in this business. Like it's you know, a bunch of

508
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: guys in the middle that are still kind of plugging

509
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Speaker 3: things away to help that help that defense out right now.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of amasting to see them in the playoffs.

511
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Speaker 1: And if if they don't end up winning the division,

512
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Speaker 1: if New England holds on, got Lee, congratulations, you get

513
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: a home playoff game. Oh who's coming in here? Oh

514
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the first round is rolling in here.

515
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody be too excited about seeing those

516
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Speaker 1: guys come to town. All right, Buck, start us off

517
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Speaker 1: on this one. Iago green Bay, heck of a game

518
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. They get the interception at the very end

519
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: of this game to preserve the win. They went twenty

520
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: eight to twenty one, a game that was incredibly entertaining

521
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: and finished off with maybe the fastest post game handshake

522
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Speaker 1: between head coaches that I've seen in quite sometime.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, man, when Ben Johnson called Ajack, when he

524
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 4: called him out at the introduction press conference, he poured

525
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 4: kerose in on a rivaly that was already fully inflamed,

526
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 4: and in doing that have been played in that ribby activity.

527
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Speaker 4: It's as intense as it is. It would probably be

528
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Speaker 4: on part with the Ravens Steelers rivalry that we also

529
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Speaker 4: saw take place. But to me, man, this was a

530
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Speaker 4: great game on both sides. And I will say, and

531
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the Packers side on this. The Green

532
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Speaker 4: Bay Packers needed to dispatch the Bears in this fashion

533
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Speaker 4: to re establish that they're the team to beat in

534
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Speaker 4: the NFC North. This was a game where the Bears

535
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Speaker 4: were coming off a great win on Black Friday, a

536
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Speaker 4: physical win with a random ball all up and down

537
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Speaker 4: on the Eagles. For the Green Bay Packers to step

538
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: up and to contain the running game and deal with

539
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: all the things that Ben Johnson can do. A very

540
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: creative and physical run game that speaks volumes to their defense,

541
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Speaker 4: but offensively, they got back to who they are in

542
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Speaker 4: the passing game. Welcome back Jayden Reid, Welcome back Christian Watson.

543
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Speaker 4: This is the offense that we expected to see them,

544
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Speaker 4: throwing slash and intermediate stuff to those guys while running

545
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Speaker 4: the football with Josh Jacobs. If the Packers stick to

546
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: the script, this is the team that can be the

547
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: title team in Title Town.

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Speaker 2: Well, a couple of things.

549
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Speaker 3: Jordan Love throws three touchdown passes in the span of

550
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Speaker 3: twelve plays. Twelve plays and I mean three perfect touchdown passes.

551
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Speaker 3: Now Brisker misses the one touchdown to watching the end

552
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: zone by literally a fingernail like that. He's right there,

553
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: he sees the ball, he's half field. Safety makes a

554
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: break them to they're splitting the post right there, and

555
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just it's a different between winning and losing.

556
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: It's just that close. And that's what the game was.

557
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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

558
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Speaker 2: DJ one was Anthony Belton has played really good at guard.

559
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: They had a big weakness there once Jenkins went down,

560
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: and they're trying to figure out the center position with Ryan, they.

561
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: Had a real hole at guard. And I felt like.

562
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Speaker 3: Anthony Belton these last two weeks has played really really well.

563
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Speaker 3: First of all, the kid's got great balance, and I

564
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: don't know when you come down to North Carolina State

565
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: if you thought tack tackle guard, but he looks him

566
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Speaker 3: and Zach Tom on the right side, I thought played

567
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: really well, really controlled the line of scrimmage. Number one.

568
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Speaker 3: Number two, is there a more difficult kind of tackle

569
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Speaker 3: in this league than kylem an Unguy, Like nobody can

570
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: tackle that guy. It's unbelievable, and that's why they give

571
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: it to him on the goal line in short yard,

572
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: they're giving the ball to him because they can't tackle

573
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: that guy.

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Speaker 2: That's That's one.

575
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Speaker 3: The last play, the interception that you talked about, you know,

576
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: makes a good play, but they basically ran that same

577
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 3: play against the Eagles last week Cole Comett. They hit

578
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: it to Cole Comet last week, and I thought it

579
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: was a fourth and one play. I thought it's the

580
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: same action, same play action, half boot roll to the left,

581
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: and I thought Caleb just stayed on DeAndre Swift too long.

582
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Speaker 2: DJE.

583
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Speaker 3: Maybe if he looked deep first he would have seen

584
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: Cole Comet break first, and maybe we're not even talking

585
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Speaker 3: about you know, Green Bay and what they needed to do,

586
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: like maybe Chicago wins that one or at least, you know,

587
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: send it an overtime right now.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah, on that play specifically, I think it was He's

589
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: the only thing he couldn't do was be in the

590
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: middle because he if he's on time, if he sees

591
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Speaker 1: it gets off, it sees that he gets Comet for

592
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Speaker 1: the touchdown. If he buys a little bit more time

593
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Speaker 1: seeing that that's that I'm too late on that and

594
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: waits for DJ Moore who's coming from the back side.

595
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: He could literally he could literally just option flip it

596
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: to him and he's he's probably going to get into

597
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: the end zone there. But I mean, look it was

598
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay was ready for it. They were in a

599
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: pretty good spot there. They covered up the flat, took

600
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: away the layup, and then and then he's a little

601
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: bit late. So I thought it was an incredible game.

602
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm going back through some of the stuff that I

603
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: watched Micah Parsons in this game at seven pressures, I

604
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: want to hit you on this body just to see

605
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: what you think from an offensive line perspective, because the

606
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: things that stood out to me, you line them up

607
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: on the edge and you can see you know, he'll

608
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: went out there. You'll see him cross face coming inside.

609
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: They use him as a looper at times, and he

610
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: was effective. But to me using him, I've always people

611
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: will call it different things, and people call it like

612
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: a joker or a walk around rusher. To me, when

613
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: he's when he just milling around and walking around and

614
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's going to insert into the rush,

615
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: that to me is a quarterback was a nightmare because

616
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I can you can chip him, you can slide protection

617
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: when you don't know which where he's coming from, and

618
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up what they end up doing a

619
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Speaker 1: lot of times they end up fanning out your protection.

620
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Speaker 1: And now you've got a guard with a three way

621
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Speaker 1: go and that four to three whatever he ran, Michael

622
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Speaker 1: Parson's coming at you like, have fun with that.

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Speaker 3: He literally is the He's the kryptonite for Caleb. He's

624
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: the one guy beat him.

625
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: To the corner. That's the first time I've seen anybody

626
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 2: beat Caleb.

627
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: Caleb pause. The guy can't turn the corner on. I mean,

628
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: how many throwaways did he have because of Mike and

629
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: chasing him. He had at least three or four, and

630
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: a couple of them were on third down. And so

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Speaker 3: you look in the stat page and Michael Parsons as

632
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: a tackle, you know, like, but he affected the game

633
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: so many different ways. And I agree with you, like,

634
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: when he's just on the edge, there's just too many

635
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: things you can do to him. You can set your protection,

636
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: you can chip, you can do all the basic things.

637
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: But when he's in the middle and he gets to

638
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: kind of free reign where he wants to go. I

639
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: always say he's like he's like water. He's just gonna

640
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: find the He's just gonna get through everything. He's just

641
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: going to be that leak and he's going to get

642
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: through the soup and everything else in the middle. And

643
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: then once that quarterback is running the way Caleb likes

644
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: to like, he's just gonna flatten it to the sideline

645
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: where you're gonna you're gonna have very little option to

646
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: be able to make any kind of a throw.

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Speaker 4: I want to figure back the last thing on Michael

648
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: Parson's going there. To me, it just kind of speaks

649
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: to the high standards that were already established when he

650
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 4: walked in the building in Green Bay. How he's not

651
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: only met those standards and kind of welcome and embrace

652
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: maybe the structure that they have in place.

653
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: But Jeff Hafley, I don't.

654
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: Think it's easy sometimes taking a great player and in

655
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: in the middle of the season trying to figure out

656
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: what to do with him. He's done a really good

657
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: job of putting him in optimal situations to impact the

658
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: game the most without compromising the rest of the defense man.

659
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: This team is playing their best ball heading down the stretch,

660
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: and there's so much meat left on the ball on

661
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: offensive defense that they can get to do.

662
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: You guys, remember when Rocky Long was the head coach

663
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. I remember what Remember they called the

664
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: lobo position erlacker played it. They put their erlacker eight yards,

665
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: so you had to level of the linebackers and all

666
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it looked like the top of the bucket.

667
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Would call it like the top of the Christmas tree

668
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: with a linebacker eight yards and he would just see

669
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: everything and just just shoot gaps and get to either alley.

670
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, Rocky Long must watch. I

671
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: hope Rocky lungs.

672
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

673
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what he is now, he's still I

674
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: hope he's watching Michael Parsons and going, Man, I would

675
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: have loved to have thrown that guy at the Lobo

676
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: position in Albuquerque.

677
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: Because it's what you're talking about.

678
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: It's the old three three five defense they used to

679
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: run in New Mexico. Brian Urlacher was low what he

680
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: would just have re rain and in an odd front

681
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: where you can move and do all this movement like

682
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: pits Burg has done for years. Like you're just able

683
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: to create these things. And I'm gonna say this, man,

684
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: Michael Paris is a freak of nature when it comes

685
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: to being able to rush, to pass or blitz, impact, impact,

686
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: just the athleticism, the explosiveness.

687
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: He's a problem and he is the ultimate eracer to

688
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: an athletic quarterback like Kaylei Williams. Yeah, I hate that

689
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: was that was fun to watch.

690
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there thinking, man, that's got to be

691
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: fun with a game plan every week to have an

692
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: athlete like that at your disposals. Figure out what you

693
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: want to do with them. Baldy, you were at my

694
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: favorite rivalry in the NFL, Buck mentioned it. Pittsburgh Baltimore.

695
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh goes on the road, huge win, and Baltimore all

696
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you look up, they are collapsing down

697
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: the home stretch. Here they lose twenty seven to twenty two.

698
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: What would your takeaway from this one?

699
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: Well, I thought that Aaron and the offense got aggressive

700
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: from the first play. First play they hit DK on

701
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: a fifty two YARLD go route against Marlon Humphrey.

702
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: It's a perfect throw by Aaron.

703
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: It's a throw that he will still make ten years

704
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: from now when he's playing you know, pick on, you know, in.

705
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: Elchino, California, wherever he's at.

706
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: But I mean it's a perfect throw, good play action

707
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: fake to get get the free safety Alloie Gilman just

708
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: to kind of freeze there. He can't get over the top.

709
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: But he hit that throw three times in a game.

710
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: They scored in all those throws. So he hit Calvin

711
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: Alson on one, he hit DK another time, he hit

712
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: DK on his ramble drill across the middle, and you

713
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: you know, for the first time in a while now,

714
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 3: DK was a big part of that offense. And so

715
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: that that that was good and that that kind of

716
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: set the table for what the Steelers were doing. They hit,

717
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: they hit a play to Jaylen Waht Jayleen Warren for

718
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: a touchdown. I mean, I don't know what Baltimore is doing.

719
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: They know didn't cover the tight end. They didn't cover

720
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Warren and it was just an easy, just swing route

721
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: to Warn. He went in for a touchdown, the final

722
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: touchdown the day. I thought, you know, Baltimore had some chances,

723
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: uh DJ, Like, I don't know, Like I don't know

724
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: what a touchdown is anymore. I think Isaiah likely has down.

725
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it and I'm going, I don't know

726
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: if it's the end zone. Isn't that the same thing

727
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: as a field of play, you know, Like he's got

728
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: the control of the ball and the third step didn't

729
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: get down.

730
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: Joey Porter punches at it, but like, is that what

731
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: we I don't know. It looked like a wind common sight,

732
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: common sense in the eye test, I mean.

733
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: An eye testing, so you can look at down and

734
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: you go and likely he's doing everything he possibly can

735
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: to show possession of the ball. He's squeezing it. He's

736
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: showing the whole world I got the ball in my hands.

737
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I felt like, you know, there's

738
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: a couple of calls in that game. You don't want

739
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: it to come down to calls. Travis Jones, you know,

740
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: gets called for uh, you know, hitting the center on

741
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: a field goal.

742
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh kicks the field goal. It's a three.

743
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: Point play, you know, and then they get the first down.

744
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: They didn't the score, so in terms of four point play,

745
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: and I'm watching Travis Jones, He's rushing the A gap.

746
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: He's not going over the center, but he's in the

747
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: A gap, Like are you not allowed to touch the

748
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: center at all? On some of these plays? Like he's

749
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: just getting pushed into it. So I felt like there's

750
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: a couple of calls that went again. Some hardball was livid,

751
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: but uh, you know, Pittsburgh, they they.

752
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: Did enough defense.

753
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: So I thought James Pierre played really well on the corner,

754
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: made a couple of big plays, got the interception on

755
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: Lamar on a really nice played by him. I thought

756
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: he played really well opposite you know, Joey Porter at corner.

757
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward eight pressures in this game, and they you know,

758
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: he moves up and down the line.

759
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 2: Three tech.

760
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: They'll use him as a four eye on the inside

761
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: of the tackle. He's not anywhere near as quick as

762
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: he was when he was younger as a player, but

763
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: he's got so much dang power that the lack of

764
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: twitch that he had a few years back doesn't really matter.

765
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: And they the last play of the game, the biggest

766
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: play of the game, they finished him off, was a

767
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: little pick stunt and he just kind of comes off

768
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: a pick stunt, ends up closing. He pops in in

769
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: Lamar's vision. So then Lamar, you know, tries to get

770
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: out of there, and then Hei Smith catches him much behind.

771
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: But it's kind of made by Cam Hayward. I mean,

772
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: he's he's another one. You go back and look at

773
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: that draft. He was in that draft with all those guys,

774
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: all those eleven Yeah, yeah, it was. It's one of

775
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: the best drafts of all time. And I feel like

776
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: because of that, and because of you know, playing with TJ.

777
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: Watt and playing with some of the other guys he's

778
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: played with that, I don't know that we realize how

779
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: good of a player this game. He's thirty six years old.

780
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: He's been doing this a long time, man.

781
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has been doing it a long time. And

782
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: you know the thing about the Pittsburgh steel Is. Dad

783
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: continues to amaze me with Mike Tomlin and all these

784
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 4: old guys is whenever you're ready to poor dirt on them,

785
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 4: they find a way to just kind of come back.

786
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a pretty performance.

787
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: But I mean, man, look the still has looked as

788
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: bad as I've seen them in the last few weeks.

789
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: I mean, they look terrible. Mike Tomley looked like he

790
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: couldn't get them going.

791
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers didn't look great. He was hurt. And then

792
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: they come back and they dust one off. Now can

793
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: they keep it up? I don't know. I think it's

794
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: still is.

795
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: Going to come down to that last game when the

796
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: Stellers in the Ravens played the rematch.

797
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

798
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 4: It's always just kind of funny when they're back to

799
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: the corner, they always kind of turn back the clock

800
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: and bring back a fintaged performance.

801
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Open Gym, Buck, where you go

802
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: to Open Gym and you got the two old guys

803
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, well, hey we're making the teams.

804
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: We got to give them a couple of these high

805
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: school college kids so they have a little more athleticism,

806
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: and then they lose, and then all of a sudden,

807
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: you see a couple other old guys walking with the

808
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: with the calfhi socks on it, like, hey, get these

809
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: young guys out of here. Come over here, guys, you

810
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: get forty five year olds, come play with us. And

811
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: then they just run the court against all the younger

812
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: guys like that's that's.

813
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: What the Pittsburgh Steelers like.

814
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: Hey, Robin Wilson and Yoo, four to three athletic, we're good,

815
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: adam feelings.

816
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: Get over here, Come on over here.

817
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: They got so they got young, and they didn't like it, Baldy.

818
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: They're like, no, we got it. We gotta go back

819
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: to the vets. The guy that's I think.

820
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this is four weeks in a row now, Well,

821
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: Lamar doesn't look and I know he's been he's had

822
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: an ankle, he's had the he's not limping or anything

823
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: out there like a no juice, like he cannot. He

824
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: does not have those splash run plays on scrambles right now.

825
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: They're just not there now where that's just you know,

826
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: eight years now of just getting beat up and hitting

827
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: everything else. But he does not have that ability at

828
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: least over the last month. Yesterday Pittsburgh did a good

829
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: job of containing him. Ran for a couple of first downs,

830
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: but nothing like where we've seen him just just run

831
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: by people. Like he's not doing that right now, and

832
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: I don't know that we're going to see that, you

833
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: know from Lamar Again.

834
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, when was the last time

835
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: we really saw that, Like, we haven't seen him be

836
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: the explosive thing. And the one thing about Lamar that's

837
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: different than Josh Allen Josh Allen size enables him to

838
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: play a different way. Yeah, like he can he can

839
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: still kind of grind it and do it or whatever.

840
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: But one of the things that we've talked about, Look,

841
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: year eight is great normally with these dynamic athletes at quarterback.

842
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: Year ten is when it's kind of done. And I'm

843
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: not saying that it's done for Lamar, but like let's

844
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: just talk about like from Michael Vick to Cam Newton

845
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: or whatever, year ten is kind of the line. And

846
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: if their games don't develop otherwise where they become very

847
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: efficient pocket passes, were they able to use other tools,

848
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: then it becomes very very hard for them to maneuver

849
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: in this league and I'm not saying that Lamar is done,

850
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: but I am just saying he has to transition to

851
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: being another player if he doesn't have that.

852
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: There's a play at the end of the game where

853
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: Lamar steps up in the pocket and he's throwing to

854
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins in the back of the end zone and

855
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews is on a crosser and he thinks the

856
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: balls to him, and you know, Joey Porter's on him

857
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: and the ball gets deflected or whatever. But I mean,

858
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: you could see DeAndre Hopkins just sitting there, just waiting

859
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: on the touchdown which is going to give him the

860
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: lead at that point twenty eight, twenty seven, and Lamar.

861
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: You can see Lamar go no, no, no, like I've

862
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: got to throw. CBS really didn't show any kind of

863
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: a replay of that reaction right there, But just watching

864
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: on tape this morning, like Lamar, I thought he had,

865
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: you know, at least the winning touchdown.

866
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: Whether it was the go ahead.

867
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: Touchdown, whether it's gonna be the winner or not, I

868
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: don't know, but he had him right in his periscope.

869
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I want to get to one last game and then

870
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: we'll let let Baldi get out of here. I appreciate

871
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: you doing the savery week, Baldy. We've got Tennessee Cleveland.

872
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: You say, why are we talking about this game? Because

873
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: we got two rookie quarterbacks out there. Cam Ward gets

874
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: to win a big win for Tennessee. Schador did some

875
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: really nice things on the other side, and is to

876
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: me going to lead to one of the more interesting discussions,

877
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: which is everybody talking about, well, they need to let

878
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: him start for the remainder of the season. I'm like,

879
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: of course, who's saying that they shouldn't. I'm sure that

880
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: decision was made a week ago, like, let's give him

881
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: the runway to see what he can do. Did some

882
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: really nice things, so to me, absolutely give the rest

883
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: of this year see what you have. But when you

884
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: look at them with Cleveland and with what Tyler Shuck

885
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: is done in New Orleans, and you marry that up

886
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: with a quarterback class that doesn't look as exciting as

887
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: maybe it would have before the season started. I think

888
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: you're going to see some of these young guys get

889
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: more than just this year, Baldy. I think you're going

890
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: to see these guys get it next year as well.

891
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Well.

892
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: It's pretty interesting because, like Shador had forty four pass attempts.

893
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: I thought he played very well. You know, when it's

894
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: time to move, he moves. But when it's time to

895
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: just sit there and make the thrown into the zone,

896
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: he did. I'm not I don't really understand taking him

897
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: off the field for the two point try. Like maybe

898
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: that play looked good on Friday in practice, then't look

899
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: like the kid just took him down the field twice

900
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter from down thirty one seventeen. He's

901
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: got him right there on the door, Like, give him

902
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: a chance to at least hit the two point try.

903
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: But I thought, I mean, if Cam Woarre is the

904
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: number one pick and nobody argued that, and Chador is

905
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: the fifth round pick, you couldn't if you didn't know

906
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: who either one of those guys were, and just watch him,

907
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: you'd say Chador is just every bit as good as

908
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: Cam Woard. Maybe he doesn't have the torque on the

909
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: ball that Cam can can deliver, But that touchdown to

910
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy was a laser and it was in stride.

911
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: It was you can't throw it any better than that,

912
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: and that's through a snowstorm and a blizzard. I thought

913
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: Schador played really well. The offensive line around him been

914
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: very good. Both kids are thrown to nothing but rookies

915
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: like it's it's an all rookie class and Cleveland, So

916
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was a pretty good game just to

917
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: go watch those two players for just comp and just

918
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: go there's one really the first pick in the draft

919
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: and there was one really the fifth round picking this draft.

920
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: I think what it did is like for me, it

921
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: helped me make sure that my eyes are still okay.

922
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: Like I can't remember where where d DJ had Chadur

923
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: in the final thing. I know he didn't have him

924
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty four. He was at twenty.

925
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: So cam Ord was eight, cam Word was eight for

926
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: me and Shador Sanders was twenty. So it wasn't five

927
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: rounds where the difference yeah.

928
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: Right, right and so and so that's that's the thing,

929
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: because like the eye even.

930
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: In looking at Shador in Colorado and watching.

931
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: Me Cleveland, like okay, like I could see all the flaws,

932
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: but still this is a guy that rates in that

933
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 4: range where we talked about most of the time, first

934
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: round obviously whatever you want to do, he.

935
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: Was in that.

936
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: What we had a chance to see is him play,

937
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: and you saw the good and the bad. But the

938
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: good is good because he can throw it on time,

939
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: he can deliver, He does move around well enough to

940
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: escape the biggest issue that he's always had is drifting.

941
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: When he drifts and takes bad sacks in those things,

942
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: and he's done a better job of cleaning that up.

943
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: The Browns have to make the decision when they're looking

944
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 4: at Shoulder. It's should dure versus Mendoza, shouldure versus people

945
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: in that next class to see if you want to

946
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: run it back next year to then go shoulder versus

947
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven, because I think that has to be

948
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: the conversation, because we've talked about this next class coming

949
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 4: up being.

950
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: If I am the Browns, they might be.

951
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: Better served to build up the other parts of the

952
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: roster before you attack the quarterback position.

953
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: If they draft as well next year as they did

954
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: this year, they're ready to roll. And I saw a

955
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: stat that blew me away that was floating on social media.

956
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to check it. By the way,

957
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: Gavin said in the chat that Stefanski made it official

958
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Shore it's going to be quarterback for the rest of

959
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: the season.

960
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: That's seemed obvious you know that they had to do that.

961
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: But in the last forty years, four zero forty years

962
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns have five winning seasons and they've

963
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: been to the playoffs three times in forty years.

964
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I was only there for two and

965
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: I had one winning season.

966
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: I feel like my batting average is way above average

967
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: there in my two years in Cleveland. But goodness gracious,

968
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: that is it takes a lot to get that turned around, Baldi.

969
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, with all the ammunition they have

970
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: with draft picks, if Shador can hit and it looks

971
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: like he is right now, and you can use those

972
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: draft picks to move around the board or maybe trade

973
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: some for veteran guys and continue to draft good players,

974
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: like it's going to be an exciting team that could

975
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: put that that number in the rearview mirror and start

976
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: having some winning seasons.

977
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Jeffrey Summing is all over a number of

978
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: times in that game in the pocket and pressure, he

979
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: does not he does not flinch.

980
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: He does not flinch when guys are around him, Like

981
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: he stands tall to pocket, is feet calm, Like there's

982
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: so many good things to like about what we saw.

983
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: Yester I mean you you know.

984
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: You just look at some of the guys are coming

985
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: after Martin Key whatever, like like when it's time to

986
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: spin out. I agree with you, Buck, he probably does

987
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: drift to too frequently. He's trying to make every play

988
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: a good play. He could do that at Colorado and

989
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: you're not going to do that in the NFL. But

990
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: at the same time, he got out of harm's way

991
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: a bunch and made some good throws extending plays and

992
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: those aren't good conditions to you know, to throw the

993
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: ball in. But it didn't seem like it bothered him

994
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: at all.

995
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Nope, and Buck.

996
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: The last thing as we wrap this thing up, we

997
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: talked about this with Ben Johnson's comments, you know before

998
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: this last game, I know they didn't win, and we

999
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: talked about it with Jim Harbaugh and when he went

1000
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: to Stanford, like to turn around a perennial loser, you

1001
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: need you need a cockiness, you need a brashness, you

1002
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: need someone to say that not this, I know what's

1003
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: gone on here before. That's not me, and that is

1004
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Schador. Signetti was the other one we

1005
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: talked about like that who came in as I don't

1006
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: care about Indiana history, like I don't lose this is

1007
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: who I am, and I feel like that's your door's

1008
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of to be honestly, it's kind of exactly what

1009
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: they needed from that standpoint.

1010
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 4: I mean, he has certainly given him that that delusional confidence.

1011
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 4: I thought what was interesting was Jeffrey Simmons' comments about

1012
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: Shuder afterwards and when they engaged in the back and

1013
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: forth and the conversation in trash talk and all that

1014
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: other stuff, and just how he didn't flinch and how

1015
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: he gave it just like he was getting it.

1016
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: To me. It's all interesting.

1017
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: And I don't know where the Browns are going after

1018
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: the season as it relates to like their composition of

1019
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: coaching staff and all this other stuff. But it is

1020
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: shocking to me that you tell me that this team

1021
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: five winning seasons, three playoff appearances in forty years.

1022
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: That is how is that possible? That is unbelievable. And

1023
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: always picked at the top of the draft.

1024
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, we're yeah, you getting getting a chance

1025
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: to get good players every year, right, That's insane.

1026
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: Hey, Baldy, you're the best, buddy. Appreciate you.

1027
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: We always love these mondays man. We'll see you next week. Yep,

1028
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: there he goes. Uh Baldy's breakdowns gear. By the way,

1029
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: we'll get you some of that Christmas time. Great for

1030
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: somebody out there, Hey buck, Uh one more win, buddy

1031
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: winning one more win?

1032
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: Get the Christian State championship here. That's so crazy and

1033
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: it's come. So where's your game?

1034
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: Is that they're playing Buyna Park. Boyna Park High School

1035
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: is where they're going to play that game Friday, four pm.

1036
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: I believe against the fighting Hardy Nickerson's and Bishop Odout

1037
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: home of Elijah Verett, Tucker, Javon Holland. They've got they

1038
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: got a running back that's really good. So the Patriots

1039
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: got their hands full here. But it's been man, you've

1040
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: been on it. It's it's so fun.

1041
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: It's sixteen games. This will be their sixteenth game. High

1042
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: school at they're going to be practicing doing an exam

1043
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: week basically. Yeah, we all they have finals this week.

1044
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: Yeah like like like it is. It is a fun ride,

1045
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: is a long ride. It takes to stamming to be

1046
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: able to do it. But now that you're here, you

1047
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: want to get it done. You know what I'm saying.

1048
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: You want to find a way to get it done.

1049
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: So it should be fun. Hardy nickoson squad, Oh yeah,

1050
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: tough guys. Yeah, there'll be a tough team. So looking

1051
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: forward to it again. High school football. There's nothing better.

1052
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: So fun.

1053
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: It's been a fun of all. All right, that's gonna

1054
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: do it for us. We appreciate you guys hanging. We'll

1055
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: see it tomorrow. Red's gonna join us. New father of

1056
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: a baby girl, going to join us to talk some

1057
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: college football tomorrow, So looking forward to that one. We'll

1058
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: see you next time right here on movie sticks.