WEBVTT - How Nuclear Weapons Work

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready, Are you did? In touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Polette,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am an editor at how stuff works dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across from me, as he typically does on days

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<v Speaker 1>like this, not rainy ones, but the days we do

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Although today's both senior writer Jonathan Strickland of

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert West who was my friend in college, and an

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<v Speaker 1>afterlife I can speak only with extreme terror. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one to start today. Yes, today we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about a subject that is, uh, it's pretty terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about nuclear weapons. Yes, yes, not clear not

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear he was. I was teasing him about this before

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that I had better not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say nuclear, I mean other than just then. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons I wanted to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this today is because it's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>news a lot lately. Um. Of course, uh iran um

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<v Speaker 1>is rumored or depending on whom you ask, more than

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<v Speaker 1>rumored to be working on nuclear weapons program. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that's been a busy topic. I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say, a hot topic, let's not go there

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<v Speaker 1>um lately, and I thought, well, you know, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we We've never really talked about, um, the technology that

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<v Speaker 1>makes nuclear weapons possible. UM. And while I'm not particularly

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<v Speaker 1>fond of things that cause death and destruction, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>the actual bombs themselves, how they make them work is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting, and it's it's important stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of discussions about nuclear arms races. You know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a famous nuclear arms race between the Soviet Union and

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<v Speaker 1>the United States during the Cold War, which uh started

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<v Speaker 1>to look like things were going to to improve, where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, both nations were starting to dismantle a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of their nuclear weapon programs. But then you've got other

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<v Speaker 1>countries like China and India and Pakistan and other countries

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<v Speaker 1>that are that have either have a nuclear weapons program

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<v Speaker 1>or developing. North Korea is another good example. They either

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<v Speaker 1>have a and a fully fledged out nuclear weapons program

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<v Speaker 1>or they're working on it. And uh, it adds a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of concern because these weapons potentially pack an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>punch and it's the kind of weapon that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most weapons, you use them and then the uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>immediate moment, the aftermath, that's that's all you're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>And the aftermath is generally, you know, not not uh

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<v Speaker 1>something that is perpetual, right, I mean, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>to do some massive clean up or whatever, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuclear weapons are different, and that the aftermath can be

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<v Speaker 1>as destructive or maybe not as destructive, but but destructive

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<v Speaker 1>on their own beyond the initial blast. And so plus

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<v Speaker 1>plus it's possible that the uh, the effects of the

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear blast can carry across the terrain to places that

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<v Speaker 1>the US, as we'll find out in in our discussion, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that people may not necessarily have been planning on being affected.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you might. You know, it's not just the immediate area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a precision weapon and that Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>precision blast area that you're that you can be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure is going to be vaporized when you hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's a large area around that. Depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>the climate and you know, the specific weather conditions at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, it could affect neighboring countries, you know, essentially

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<v Speaker 1>innocent bystanders to whatever. So let's get into this, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk first about atoms. Yeah, I mean you think about

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<v Speaker 1>it that One of the fascinating things about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that such a devastating reaction can be caused something as

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<v Speaker 1>tiny as an atom. Yeah. Uh. And just so that

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<v Speaker 1>we all have our little a little refresher course, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm sure no one listening needs it. Your basic

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<v Speaker 1>atom has a nucleus that is orbited by electrons. Now

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<v Speaker 1>your electrons are you're negatively charged particles. Yes, your nucleus

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<v Speaker 1>typically contains at least one proton. Actually it has to

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise it's not an atom. So the proton is a

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<v Speaker 1>positively charged particle, and the protons positive charge in the

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<v Speaker 1>electrons negative charge are attracted to one another. It's pretty powerful. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there can also be in that nucleus a and a

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<v Speaker 1>particle that carries no charge at all, a neutron which

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<v Speaker 1>has no charge, and neutrons kind of act like glue

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<v Speaker 1>for protons. Because you know, you've got this this nucleus

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<v Speaker 1>that could have more than one proton. Well, the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that a similar charges repel one another. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have to possibly charged particles and you try and

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<v Speaker 1>put them close to each other, they're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>repelling each other. Well, neutrons kind of act like a

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<v Speaker 1>glue that that allows these protons to group together to

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<v Speaker 1>form this nucleus. So, uh, if you've I'm getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. No, no, no, no, it's all right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Now you can change the number of neutrons

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<v Speaker 1>that are within an atom. And if you do that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, atoms have typically they have a number of

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<v Speaker 1>neutrons that you will naturally find within the atoms of

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<v Speaker 1>that element. Uh. If you find something that's outside of

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<v Speaker 1>that that either is gut either has more fewer neutrons,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an isotope. So isotopes of atoms are atoms that

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<v Speaker 1>contain a different number of neutrons than you would typically

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<v Speaker 1>find them in nature. Plus baseball team in Springfield, that's

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<v Speaker 1>also true. Now, this is not to be confused with ions.

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<v Speaker 1>And ion is an atom that has either gained or

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<v Speaker 1>lost in electron, and so it either has a positive

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<v Speaker 1>charge or a negative charge because of that. So of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's gained an electron, then overall the atom has

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<v Speaker 1>a negative charge. If it's lost in electron, then overall

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<v Speaker 1>the atom has a positive charge. So that's the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between ions and isotopes. Now isotopes. Really that's what ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being important in these nuclear weapons. It's it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a key feature. Um. Another thing that's that's important

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<v Speaker 1>to note is that for the most part, atoms are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty stable. I mean, once you get them in their

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<v Speaker 1>natural state, they're unlikely to change all that much. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't uh, randomly shed electrons or the things unless some

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<v Speaker 1>force acts on them. They just sort of go along

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<v Speaker 1>there about their business and stick to themselves, right because

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<v Speaker 1>if they were if they were unstable, they would very

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<v Speaker 1>they would not necessarily very quickly. But if they were unstable,

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<v Speaker 1>they would change to become more stable over time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we call decay. So if you have an atom

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<v Speaker 1>that is unstable, it will eventually change to a more

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<v Speaker 1>stable form, and in the process of that, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to give up some energy, uh, and it can give

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<v Speaker 1>up energy and in multiple ways. There's actually three main

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<v Speaker 1>types of radioactive decay. There's alpha decay, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your nucleus and it it's going to kick

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<v Speaker 1>out two protons and two neutrons bound together, which is

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<v Speaker 1>also called an alpha particle. Then you've got beta decay,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where a neutron actually changes becomes a proton. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the neutron or the proton and the an electron

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<v Speaker 1>and an anti anti neutrino are all ejected together. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the beta particle or actually the ejected electron is the

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<v Speaker 1>beta particle specifically UM. So yeah, good all anti neutrinos.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you they they go opposite the best as

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light. So we talked about the whole

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<v Speaker 1>new trinos whether or not they were going faster than

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of light with large hatron collider. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like they didn't. Looks like that was all

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<v Speaker 1>due to some some issues with the measuring technology. Looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the scoreboard today right, which could change by the

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<v Speaker 1>time this podcast gets out. So the third type is

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneous fission. Now, fission is where you have a nucleus

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<v Speaker 1>split into two pieces. It's um the opposite of fusion.

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<v Speaker 1>Fusion is where two nucleuses come together and join, and

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<v Speaker 1>both vision and fusion you have a release of energy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for radioactive decay, we're specifically talking about fission, not fusion.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this the nucleus splits and it might eject

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<v Speaker 1>neutrons which can become neutron rays, and it also can

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<v Speaker 1>emit electromagnetic energy called gamma rays, which do not talk

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<v Speaker 1>about fantast stick for you're looking at me like I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about some or the Hulk. I was waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for you to make that joke. Actually, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was cosmic rays with the fantastic gamma radiation for the

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<v Speaker 1>incredible Hulk. I don't want to get my science wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely scientific. My air quotes science wrong. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>gamma rays. It's interesting that they are the only type

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<v Speaker 1>of nuclear radiation that comes from energy rather than particles. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I bet you learned that on how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Yes, there's a really good article about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We we have we have a couple of articles on

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works dot Com that are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really useful as we talk about this. They include how

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons work, how nuclear how nuclear radiation works, and

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<v Speaker 1>also how there's an article about the Manhattan Project. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Manhattan Project in a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've now got these three different forms of radioactive decay

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<v Speaker 1>and we know about this new spontaneous fission. Well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is that the fission doesn't necessary really have to

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<v Speaker 1>be spontaneous. If you find the right kind of unstable

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<v Speaker 1>atom and you are able to bombard it with neutrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Then sometimes those atoms will accept a neutron and in

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<v Speaker 1>the process they will become so unstable as that the

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<v Speaker 1>nucleus itself will split apart, and in that process the

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<v Speaker 1>nucleus will release energy. It also may release other neutrons,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that if you get a bunch of these

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<v Speaker 1>unstable items together and you shoot a neutron at them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that first that first nucleus splits apart and

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<v Speaker 1>more neutrons split off of it, it can cause more

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<v Speaker 1>of these unstable atoms to do the same thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you have a chain reaction. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>who it was that had that the TV show where

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<v Speaker 1>they had a clear plastic box and on the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the box they had uh mouse traps, and each

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<v Speaker 1>mouse traps, each mouse trap had two ping pong balls

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and those represented um the stable. Actually, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably been done by five thousand people anyway. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find clips of the same sort of thing on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and then by lots of different people, and I enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>watching it because it's really an excellent demonstration. So each

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<v Speaker 1>of these these mouse trap atoms with its two ping

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<v Speaker 1>pong balls represents these unstable atoms, and as soon and

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<v Speaker 1>the ping pong balls represent the ejected neutrons exactly exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And so uh, somebody else will drop a ping pong

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<v Speaker 1>ball inside a small hole in the box representing the

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<v Speaker 1>neutron in this case that is bombarding these these atoms.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as it hits one mouse trap and

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<v Speaker 1>sets it off, the ping pong balls from that one

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<v Speaker 1>fly in other directions, thereby setting off the other mouse traps,

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<v Speaker 1>and it all happens in a very very short period

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<v Speaker 1>of time. It takes almost no time at all for

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, for all the the mouse traps to release

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<v Speaker 1>their part of ping pong balls now. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>case of a nuclear weapon, these reactions are happening in

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<v Speaker 1>billions of a second. So now let's get to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual elements that are used in nuclear weaponry. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of them is an isotope of uranium, uranium two thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very complex atom. Yeah, it's got ninety two protons, right, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's got a hundred and forty three neutrons. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about this is that it will accept a

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<v Speaker 1>neutron if if you bombard uranium two thirty five, it

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<v Speaker 1>very easily will accept that neutron. Yeah yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it it makes the uranium unstable, and then it will

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<v Speaker 1>split apart like I just said in and you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>that energy and those other neutrons released. So that the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with this, many problems with this. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the issues that the people who first started working on

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons technology encountered was that, first of all, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't sure which elements were going to react this way,

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<v Speaker 1>because not all of them do, so finding the right

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<v Speaker 1>elements was tricky. The other part is that uranium two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five is relatively rare compared to other isotopes of uranium. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So when you find naturally occurring uranium, the

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<v Speaker 1>uranium two thirty five in that deposit is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be relatively sparse, and for a nuclear weapon to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you need about uranium two thirty five so that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the right amount of material to perpetuate this chain reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise your your atoms that are unstable, maybe too far

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<v Speaker 1>apart from each other for that chain reaction to really

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<v Speaker 1>take off. Note to all the nuclear physicists who are

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<v Speaker 1>writing who have paused to podcast and rode in to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us that there are other types of fuel that

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<v Speaker 1>can be used for nuclear weapons. Yes, we know that.

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<v Speaker 1>However we're using we're starting here, starting with uranium because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where that's where, that's where the scientists started. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>plutonium also used as all as their hydrogen bombs that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about a little bit. But even hydrogen bombs

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<v Speaker 1>use uranium and plutonium um. It's just that they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>using a different mechanism. They're using fusion as opposed to vision.

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<v Speaker 1>So uranium two thirty five, you have to actually refine

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<v Speaker 1>your your right, your uranium. Wow, I can't talk today,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, you must take uranium, your uranium, yeah, toy

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<v Speaker 1>boat anyway, you have to take this uranium there we

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<v Speaker 1>got that works and refine it so that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a higher percentage of uranium two thirty five. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>what you hear about when you when you hear about

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<v Speaker 1>these these nations like Iran with their nuclear program, you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about are they making uranium for power facilities or

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<v Speaker 1>are they trying to make weaponized uranium. This is talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the enrichment process. Yes, so if you are enriching,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're creating uranium, so that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a section of uranium the is uranium that's indicative of

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon that's not. You don't need that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>concentration for a nuclear power facility. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that that inspectors try to determine when they

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<v Speaker 1>go and look at a nuclear power facility to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the uranium being produced is not weapons grade uranium.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that's the basis, that's the basic science behind

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<v Speaker 1>the fission part of nuclear weapons. Will get into fusion

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. So how did this all come about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first we have to look at a fellow named Einstein. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein came up with that famous equation E equals MC

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<v Speaker 1>squared the theory of relativity, which states that energy is

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<v Speaker 1>equal to mass times the speed of light squared the

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<v Speaker 1>constant of the speed of light through a vacuum. As

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, so that means that you take the

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<v Speaker 1>you take and a unit of mass, you multiply it

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<v Speaker 1>by the square of the speed of light speed of

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<v Speaker 1>light squared rather and and then that's how much energy

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<v Speaker 1>you get from that mass. So this tells us that

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny little bit of mass could equate to an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous amount of energy because you're multiplying that that unit

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<v Speaker 1>of mass against a huge number. Well, that starts leading

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<v Speaker 1>people to think, well, this is true, then there should

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<v Speaker 1>be some way to tap into the stuff that's around

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<v Speaker 1>us and get at huge amounts of energy. And you

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of really really smart people working on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of them were probably at least initially working

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<v Speaker 1>on this as a way of finding a new energy source,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a weapon. However, World War Two really helped

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<v Speaker 1>push the the the the research towards finding a way

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<v Speaker 1>of using this in a military application as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>to just a power generation alternative. So then we go

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<v Speaker 1>up to the nineteen thirties. You've got a fellow named

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<v Speaker 1>Enrico Fermi, and hep him in grade school. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>one who discovered that if you were to shoot neutrons

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<v Speaker 1>at atoms, you could sometimes form new elements. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were including ones that just did not show up on

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<v Speaker 1>the periodic table at all. So most of these are

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<v Speaker 1>are atoms that are so unstable that you know they

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<v Speaker 1>almost immediately decay. But uh that he discovered that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a few years later a pair of German scientists

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<v Speaker 1>Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassman discovered that by bombarding uranium

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<v Speaker 1>with neutrons that they could create cause the uranium atoms

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<v Speaker 1>to split. So they're the ones who actually connected the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of fission with shooting neutrons at an isotope and

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<v Speaker 1>uh it actually created a radioactive barium isotope once they

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and that's how they discovered, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happens. If you do this, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of other There are so many famous

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<v Speaker 1>names that we could mention that worked on this, but

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<v Speaker 1>Neil's Bore and John Wheeler started to theorize that if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to create a fission reaction within enough of

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<v Speaker 1>this material, you could cause a chain reaction, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to contain this in some way, you could

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<v Speaker 1>have a controlled nuclear reaction which would generate huge amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of energy. Uh. Now, a controlled nuclear reaction could allow

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<v Speaker 1>you to have uh power, or a controlled nuclear reaction

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<v Speaker 1>that then results in an uncontrolled explosion is a weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bomb. You know. I'm sort of reminded of

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<v Speaker 1>our our discussion of quantum computing, which also works with adams.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is that figuring out the predict predictability

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<v Speaker 1>if you happen to listen to that podcast of where

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<v Speaker 1>the particle will go and in what direction um is

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<v Speaker 1>not always possible. That's one of the things that makes

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<v Speaker 1>quantum cryptography so useful. But yeah, in this case, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of scary because if you imagine that this

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<v Speaker 1>this reaction is going to unleash a large amount of power,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it won't. You know, that's that can be

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<v Speaker 1>a little scary because you don't know for sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen when you do this is which is

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<v Speaker 1>why UM, you know, they started doing experiments like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Columbia University in n um up in New York. They

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<v Speaker 1>starting to mess around with this to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>could make it work. University of Chicago squash court. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>now that's funny because of underground underneath the famous stag

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<v Speaker 1>field there at the University of Chicago. UM, they were

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<v Speaker 1>Enrico Fermi finally got it to work in the controlled situation. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, again, what what if it weren't controlled

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<v Speaker 1>that might have been a little scary, but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he got it to to uh to do what they

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<v Speaker 1>thought and this This was important because UM again this

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<v Speaker 1>is they realize is that this could be a seriously

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<v Speaker 1>potent weapon that they could be building. So UM they

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<v Speaker 1>realized that if they could harness this and do this

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<v Speaker 1>in a controlled way, you know, then they could turn

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<v Speaker 1>it to their advantage. UM. Around the same time that

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<v Speaker 1>work was being done on uranium uh and and nuclear fission,

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<v Speaker 1>scientists over at the University of California at Berkeley back

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<v Speaker 1>in discovered a new element, element ninety four uh and

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<v Speaker 1>They thought that this could also work as a potential

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<v Speaker 1>fuel for nuclear chain reactions. And this element they named

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<v Speaker 1>plutonium and the dog, Yes, it was named for the

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<v Speaker 1>dog the it took. It took his name for the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman god. But yeah, it was a year later they

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<v Speaker 1>had actually produced enough plutonium to finally do some experiments

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<v Speaker 1>on it, because it was not something that was easily found,

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<v Speaker 1>which I guess we should all be thankful for. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And they they figured out that plutonium also would undergo

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<v Speaker 1>fission when bombarded by neutrons. You know, we should talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the criticality of about the of the the atoms themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the thing is, UM say, say you have your

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<v Speaker 1>your creative mousetratchs and ping pong balls. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that nothing is going to set it off

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<v Speaker 1>before you mean to set it off. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to have something jostle that that system and have

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<v Speaker 1>it all go off prematurely. And of course with a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear bomb, this is truly important because of the the

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<v Speaker 1>just the enormous amount of damage that it could it

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<v Speaker 1>could it could cause. So yeah, so there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple different concepts here. There's a concept called critical mass,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the minimum amount of mass necessary for you

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<v Speaker 1>to have a sustain nuclear fission reaction. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the subcritical mass, which is where you've got lower than

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<v Speaker 1>that amount, And ideally what you want is to have

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<v Speaker 1>lower than that amount up until the point where you

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<v Speaker 1>actually want to detonate the bomb. Yes, because that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it as safe as you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>get it. So there were a lot of challenges in

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a way to create a bomb where

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<v Speaker 1>you had the material set up as subcritical until the

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<v Speaker 1>moment of detonation, where it would convert to a critical mass,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that nuclear reaction would remain sustained within it.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise your bomb would still be dangerous. It would still

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<v Speaker 1>emit radiation, It would still admit a lot of energy,

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<v Speaker 1>it just wouldn't cause as much damage as it was

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<v Speaker 1>designed to do. Right now, now, critical mass is, as

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan said, the minimum amount needed to to achieve the

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<v Speaker 1>fish and reaction. Now uh, ideally for a for a

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<v Speaker 1>bomb condition, if you're you're trying to do this, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you would want the fuel to be in a supercritical mass,

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<v Speaker 1>which basically means there's more than enough necessary to to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve the fish and reaction. Um uh you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>in this case it just applies and plenty. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that it's going to happen. You don't wanna,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to have it where through some weird

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<v Speaker 1>set of circumstances, just some improbable but possible outcome that

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<v Speaker 1>the bomb that a smaller percentage of the reactions takes

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<v Speaker 1>place than you had anticipated, because that means that the

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<v Speaker 1>effect is going to be smaller than you had anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're gonna be building something as nasty and

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous as a nuclear weapon, you kind of want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be effective. Yes. Yeah, The point is again to

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<v Speaker 1>to operate it when it's going to achieve the desired effect,

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<v Speaker 1>and not before and which is really I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where it gets hard to talk about this because

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<v Speaker 1>the desired effect is so mind numbingly awful. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to speak of it in a in a clinical sense. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a little rough. So there there are two

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<v Speaker 1>different ways to create a supercritical mass within a fission

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<v Speaker 1>based bomb. Uh. And actually both of these ways were

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<v Speaker 1>used in the first two nuclear weapons ever actually used

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<v Speaker 1>in battle. Um. One of the things that I think

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<v Speaker 1>of is uh, again in in a clinical sense, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's still kind of amusing to me, is in

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<v Speaker 1>reading about this. Um. The nuclear weapons that were detonated

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan too, uh, or i should say over Japan

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<v Speaker 1>to um end the Second World War were really I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it seems like, well, they did what they were

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<v Speaker 1>intended to do, but they were really more like lab

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<v Speaker 1>experiments packed in a case and and and created. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, now things are are pretty standardized, but the

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<v Speaker 1>two those two weapons were very different and the way

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<v Speaker 1>they did things and uh and really they the scientists

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<v Speaker 1>weren't certain that they were going to do what they

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were going to do. Yeah. And those two

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<v Speaker 1>weapons were called we're called Little Boy and Fat many.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Boy was the one that was dropped on Hiroshima

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<v Speaker 1>on August six n and Fat Man was dropped over

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<v Speaker 1>Nagasaki on August nine. So these two us two different

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<v Speaker 1>methods to initiate this supercritical mass and begin the nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>fission process. A Little Boy used what was was called

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet. It's ah, you, in order to start this

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<v Speaker 1>whole reaction, you have to have something that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>create neutrons, and in this case, it actually was a bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>although not you know, in the sense of a gun.

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<v Speaker 1>The gun that fired, it was not the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gun that we would think of necessarily, right, This was

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<v Speaker 1>a So you take take a ball of uranium two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, all right, and then you take a small

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<v Speaker 1>amount of that two out as a bullet. It's a projectile.

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<v Speaker 1>It's placed at one end of a long tube. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got explosives behind it. So when the explosives go off,

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<v Speaker 1>it propels the bullet down the tube until it impacts

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<v Speaker 1>the sphere of uranim two five at the other end.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so, the here's how it. Here's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Explosives fire, the bullet goes down the barrel, the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>hits the sphere and it hits a neutron generator. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you have to have neutrons to start this

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<v Speaker 1>fission process. So just dropping uranium two five, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to cause a huge explosion. But by

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<v Speaker 1>creating these neutrons with this neutron generator, uh, it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up starting off that that series of reactions within the bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>So once those neutrons are generating and starts saying the

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<v Speaker 1>uranium two thirty five, the fission reaction begins. The individual

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<v Speaker 1>atoms of uranium two five starts to split, and A

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<v Speaker 1>two start to eject neutrons, which causes more uranium two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five to split, and that reaction continues and the

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<v Speaker 1>energy builds up until the bomb explodes. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>the little Boy version, by the way, in case you're

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how little little Boy was, uh, it was it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was able to drop a bomb that was equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to fourteen point five kilo tons of T and T

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<v Speaker 1>wait no, um, yeah, so yeah, so little is a

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<v Speaker 1>as a relative term. And then we have fat Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Fat Man used an implosion triggered bomb. Yes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is different from the bullet method, and what happens

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>here is you've got a sphere of the nuclear fuel,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>so in this case again uranium two thirty five and

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>then you have plutonium two thirty nine core inside that

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and and and surrounding the core are some explosives. So

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 1>what happens is in this bomb, the the sequence of

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>events is the explosives around the plutonium fires and that

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>creates a shock wave. The shock wave ends up compressing

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that plutonium to nine and that compression is what triggers

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the fission reaction within the plutonium. That reaction becomes a

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>chain reaction again, and the energy is build up and

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>then the bomb explodes. So the whole way that this

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>works is that it it creates and then directs that

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>shock wave from the un initial explosion to generate that

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>first fission reaction that becomes the chain reaction. So yeah,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a little different from the bullet method. Uh, and it

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>was it was interesting, you know, both of these methods

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>were being worked on at the same time during the

0:28:55.080 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Manhattan Project and uh, actually the implosion triggered bomb. I understand,

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it was the very first method that was tested. Who's

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the trinity bomb that was tested back in Los Alamos,

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>which was not prime real estate back in that time

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>because of all the nuclear testing they did. In fact,

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>back when they did that first nuclear bomb test, no

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>one really knew what the result was going to be, right,

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's just no way of knowing. And uh,

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it turned out that several of the scientists who are

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>observing the nuclear bomb test back in Los Alamos temporarily

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>lost their vision because the the explosion was so bright

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that it damaged their eyes. But they were able to

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>recover their vision after a while. But people didn't know

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>how powerful this was going to be, how intense the

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>energy was going to be, and so they were viewing

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it with their naked eye, and that turned out to

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>be a mistake, right, And of course, uh, an explosion

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of that magnitude also spread radioactive material over a very large,

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>uh physical space. So uh, you know, we were talking

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>about that a few minutes ago. When there is a

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>nuclear explosion like this, if there is um you know,

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it spreads nuclear material out over an area. Basically, you

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>can think of it in roughly, if you're taking weather

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the picture, um, you know, you would have

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a huge circular ish area over which this material is spread. Now,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>of course, if the wind is blowing um, you know

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>or you know, the temperature is right, the the material

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>can drift along with the wind. That can uh you know,

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>get into water supplies, it can you know, cover it

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>can move quite a bit. Um. And you know, the

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the effects, the physical effects of course, UM. You know,

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 1>there's there can be a lot more than just uh,

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>vision problems. I mean there's there's there's cancer has been

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>attributed to it um. There have band cancers attributed to

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>it um and many many other physical conditions um related

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to that. So it's not just the people who are atomized,

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>if you will, by the bomb right as they are,

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they happen to be in close enough proximity that it

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>can have long lasting effects on on many many other

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>people and can make the area radioactive for many many

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>years to come. Yeah, These these elements that are experiencing

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>radioactive decay, they can be in this state for hundreds

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of years, depending on the materials. The Yeah. The essential

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>if you are if you're at ground zero of a

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>nuclear explosion, which is which is essentially right at the

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>center of the explosion, yea, the location of the detonation essentially, Um.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>The the thing that would kill you be the heat. Yes,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the heat would be so intense that you would you

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>would be essentially vaporized. Um. But following the heat is

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the pressure that's created from the shock wave of the explosion.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And so let's say that you're far enough out where

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be vaporized by that heat, that

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>pressure could be enough to knock over the building you're

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>in totally. It could crush you. So you have that

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to look forward to. Then you've got, like like Chris

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was saying, the radiation and the radioactive fallout. So you

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>can think of that sort of a bull's eye target, right,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Like the very center of that target is where the

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>heat is going to be the most intense. Just outside

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>of that is the general area where the pressure from

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the shock wave is going to be intense enough to

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>be deadly. Just outside of that is the radiation, where

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the radiation could be strong enough where you're you could

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>suffer severe radiation sickness, uh, just from the exposure from that.

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>And then the radioactive fallout could affect the largest area,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and like you were saying, the weather can end up

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>carrying particles that have this radioactivity to them and contaminate

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>other areas miles and miles away from the site of

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the bombing. It can affect living cells, uh, you know,

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>preventing them from behaving normally. I mean they can cause

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>birth defects in in future generations. Um. So this is

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>this is very very serious stuff of course. Um. Now,

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>later after one of the things that they realized after

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>using these weapons was these these fission bombs work very well.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Obviously they're very effective. But um they began thinking that, uh,

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>perhaps fusion would be a more effective or create a

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>more effective weapon. And that's the course they began following, right,

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>And they in some cases they first started looking at fusion.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Back in there was a physicist by the name of

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Edward Teller, and he came up with an idea called boosting.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And this is a process where you create a fusion

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>reaction in order to generate neutral ons, and those neutrons

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>then go on to create a fission reaction. So it's

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a hybrid really. Uh. Now, like we said, fusion is

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>where you've got the two atoms that combine together to

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>form a heavier single atom, and in that process it

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>gives off quite a bit of energy. Uh. And you

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>can use different kinds of atoms to do this, but

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>typically in a thermonuclear weapon. We're talking about hydrogen, and

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen has different isotopes, right, there's uh, deuterium and tritium. Yes,

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And this is all talk. Normally a hydrogen atom, uh

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>just has the one proton, Yes, But if you add

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the if you start adding neutrons, then you get deuterium

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and tritium. And deuterium is stable. If you have a

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>deuterium atom, it's stable. It's not gonna decay. You can

0:34:55.400 --> 0:35:00.959
<v Speaker 1>actually create water with deuterium, but it will in enough,

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>in large enough amounts. Deuterium is toxic, so it's not

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>something you want to have around you. Uh. Is that

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>heavy water? Is that heavy? You know what I couldn't

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you. All I remember about heavy water is uh

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>from Batman? Should it? Pretty sure? That's not very scit,

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>But then you think, you know, it would make sense

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>in a in a in a sense because deuterium, you've

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>got the neutron at it, which means that the actual

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>atom itself is heavier, which means any molecule created out

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 1>of that atom that would take the place of the

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>normal is or the the natural state of that atom

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>would be intern heavier. Sorry, you can keep talking. This

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is one of those times when uh, it's something didn't

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>click to me until we were actually talking about it.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And I'll let's see if I can find something like

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not a nuclear physicist, so I honestly can't

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>answer all those questions off top of my head. But

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>tritium is not uh stable, it will it will decay

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>retive relatively quickly. So it's a bit of a challenge.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>But what what is it, Chris, Yes, it's it's water

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>made with deuterium. There you go. And so trying to

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>create a fusion bomb is a little bit tricky because

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>tritium is one of those elements that is typically used

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>in these but it is not it's not easy to store,

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's got a very short half life. So so

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>if you have this problem with storage and how do

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you keep tritium stable so that you can have fusion

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 1>reaction in order to start off the fission that's going

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to ultimately lead to this destructive force. Scientists came up

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:48.280
<v Speaker 1>with a fairly creative solution. First, they created a lithium deuterate,

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>which is a solid compound and it does not have

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the problem of undergoing radioactive decay at room temperatures at

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>normal temperatures or even you know, normal operating temperatures of

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a nucle your bomb until you detonate it. And then

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>with the tritium problem, they began to rely upon a

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>reaction of fission reaction which will produce tritium from lithium.

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So first they have to induce a fission reaction with

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the lithium, and then the lithium in turn will produce tritium.

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.479
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the uh chance, you've got the

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the the right elements in place to have the fusion reaction,

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>so you have fission to fusion to fission again to boom. Yes,

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a little complicated, right, and uh that fission reaction

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>with lithium, it also gives off a lot of X rays,

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and the X rays are actually what allow uh well,

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the X rays end up increasing the temperature within the bomb,

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, And those that increased temperature and the pressures

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that are associated with it are the that's the energy

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that goes into the system that allows fusion to happen.

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Because this is one of the tricky things about fusion.

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>You gotta or energy into the system in order diffused

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>two atoms together, right, right, and the components of the

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>bomb are separated by casings that prevent accidental or or

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>or maybe premature detonation, so that that initial explosion UH

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and causing the X rays basically UH causes the deterioration

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>of those materials and allows the bomb to continue detonating. Yeah,

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so let's it's it's it's a little complicated to talk

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>about this without an illustration. Yes, but the way this

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>fusion bomb would work is that you've got an implosion

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 1>fission bomb with the cylinder casing of uranium two thirty eight,

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>which is acting as a tamper. A tamper is the

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>thing that is controlling this reaction so that you get

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 1>as much energy involved before it actually unleashes the energy. Um.

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>The within inside that that tamper of uranium two thirty

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>eight is the lithium deuteride, and there's also a hollow

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.240
<v Speaker 1>rod of plutonium two thirty nine in the very center

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of all that. And then separating this this cylinder of

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>a tamper of the uranium two eight from the implosion

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 1>bomb is the shield of uranium and some plastic foam.

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And this is what once you start detonating at the

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>sequence of events, is that the fission bomb, So that

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>first explosion goes off, and this generates the really intense

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.399
<v Speaker 1>X rays which increased the temperature and the pressure within

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the bomb. Uh the shield, that uranium two shield with

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the foam, it actually is what keeps that contains that

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that explosion so that it does not prematurely detonate the

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>rest of the fuel. But the heat causes the tamper

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that cylinder of the uranium two thirty eight to start

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to expand and it begins to burn away. It starts

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>put more pressure on the lithium deuterate, which is squeezed

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>so hard that it causes shock waves that initiate fission

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>within the plutonium rod. So here's you've got your second

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>fission reaction. So you've got the first fission reaction which

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>causes the shock wave. Ultimately that begins a second fission

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>reaction within the plutonium rod. Now that reaction starts to

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>give off radiation, so it begins to to expel neutrons,

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>and also it gives off a lot of heat, so

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>now you've got even more heat in addition to the

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>heat that was generated by the X rays. The neutrons

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>go into the lithium deuterate, which then combine with the

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>lithium and that makes tritium. So now you've got this

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>environment of incredibly high temperature, this incredible pressure, and it

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>allows the tritium and deuterium and also deuterium deuterium fusion

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 1>reactions to occur. So you've got tritium combining with deuterium

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and deuterium combining with itself in these reactions, which produces

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>even more heat, more radiation, more neutrons. Those neutrons from

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>those fusion reactions induce a final fission reaction in the

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>uranium two eight pieces that are making up that tamper,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and the the shield that's around the whole thing, which

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of course creates even more radiation and heat, and then

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the bomb goes boom. So you've got these this series

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of explosions going on in a fusion bomb, several which

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>are fission, one of which is fusion. The reason for that,

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you may wonder, well, why do you need so many

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>reactions to go on for a bomb to explode? Well,

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>when we were talking about Little Boy, Uh, the interesting

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>thing to me about Little Boy is that it was

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>incredibly destructive weapon, but only one point five percent of

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the material the fission norble material within that bomb actually

0:41:55.560 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>underwent fission one five percent, so it could have been

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>even more destruction. Yes, the energy it unleashed could have

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>been orders of magnitude larger than it was, so a

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>fusion one. A fusion bomb is designed in part to

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>try and create as efficient a series of explosions and reactions,

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>really we shouldn't even say explosions reactions within the bomb,

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>um as as many as possible or as much of

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that material as possible, so that what it does detonate,

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it unleashes the largest amount of energy it possibly can

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>for the the amount of payload that it has. Now,

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>this also means that we have been able to reduce

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the size of the actual payloads because we can create

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>just as an effective and explosion but with a smaller

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>amount of material as we could from several decades ago. Yeah,

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>the weapons these days are far more reliable than than

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 1>those early ones. UM. And we've gone from dropping them

0:42:55.840 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>from planes to mounting them on cruise missiles and I

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>see b MS intercontinental ballistic missiles UM. And of course, uh,

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.919
<v Speaker 1>you know these these weapons now travel under their own

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 1>power at a certain point anyway, and um, you know

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the the I C B ms can they actually leave

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere and re enter the atmosphere so they can

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:24.439
<v Speaker 1>travel very very long distances that way. Um, and we

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't really be able to to accomplish that if

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>we hadn't moved to a fusion method where we could

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>be so efficient with the way that we eliminate the

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>existence of other people on the planet. I hate to

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>put it that way, but you know, ultimately, even though

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about something that's really scientific, the application of

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely horrifying. But it's not even to get

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>away from that, but the uh yeah, because if if

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we hadn't done that, if we hadn't come up with

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the fusion process, then it would be much less efficient,

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and we might not have the option of putting something

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.479
<v Speaker 1>on a missile because it would the pay it could

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>be too great for for a missile to be uh practical,

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>because at that point you would have to build a

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>missile that would be able to carry enough fuel so

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that it could propel both the missile itself and the

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>payload to wherever it is you're going to send it.

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And it could just become a matter of scale and

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and it just would not be It would be possible

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>but not practical. By making it way more efficient, we

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>can now put it on top of lots of stuff,

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>including you know, not just missiles, but weapons aboard submarines.

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's all sorts of stuff, right, so terrifying

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 1>in a way, but yeah, we we have we have

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Einstein a thing for it. So next time you see

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that guy, well, UM, one of the things that I

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to mention too. And we don't have to get

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>into it in great depth because we're getting there as

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>far as time goes. But um is the testing of

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>these these weapons traditionally UM. Of course, as Jonathan mentioned earlier,

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in the very very early days before they had been

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>actually used, UH, scientists wanted to test them to to

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 1>find out if it was even possible to make uh

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the weapon of mass destruction that they envisioned, to to

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to see exactly what would do, how well it would work. UM.

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>So they did all this testing outside, um and above ground.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Now they've a lot of in a lot of cases

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 1>they've done well, they've done tests pretty much in all

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>sorts of forms. I mean they still do them outside,

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.240
<v Speaker 1>but uh, in a lot of cases now they uh

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>weapons engineers do this underground um in an attempt to

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:41.240
<v Speaker 1>contain the reaction. Of course, although it UH, a nuclear

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 1>reaction can produce such force that it can vaporize large

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>amounts of rock, so they have to be very careful

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 1>where they do this. UM. You know, for a long time,

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>many governments around the world would use UH islands to

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.439
<v Speaker 1>to test their their weapons, places that they felt were

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>uh somewhat unoccupied. UM. And for for example, UH actually

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 1>that inspired uh the Godzilla series of movies, UM, where

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>they a lizard was irradiated on an island. Where it's

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a series of documentary documentaries where uh, the the the

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the one, the one lizard who was irradiated by this

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>this nuclear explosion turns into Godzilla and not you know,

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>all of the other animals that happened to be living there.

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Um he got just the right amount of deust apparently.

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>So UM. They've tested weapons underwater, um, you know, and

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 1>in space, but people are are gradually moving to computer testing, UM,

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:46.240
<v Speaker 1>which allows scientists to get a much better idea of

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>how things might work without having to actually blow something up,

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>actually blow something up uh and create the environmental conditions UM,

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the the fallout and and reactions that would follow UM.

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>And they've found that this can be actually beneficial. I

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>was reading an article I believe it was in the

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post that was saying that uh uh computer modeling

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>had allowed engineers to discover problems that they hadn't realized

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>existed with the weapons system that they built UM and

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>uh prevented it from becoming you know, they re engineered

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the weapons that were in existence because there was a

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>possibility that it may not then it may cause problems

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't be a stable UM and uh, you know,

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting. But of course they've found out through

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 1>testing that that fallout can travel UM through air currents

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and water. And uh, I think that's one of the

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>things that leads to UM fear that keeps people from

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.720
<v Speaker 1>using nuclear weapons more freely, because people really understand now

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>more than they did UM years ago, that you know,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>this is not something that should be done casually. You know.

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>There's also the fear of the hypothetical nuclear winter, yes,

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 1>which you know, the particulate matter from multiple explosions basically

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>causing clouds above the earth right which would block the

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>sun's light from reaching the ground, thus killing off a

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of the plant life that depends upon sunlight and

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 1>then that it ends up that ends up killing off

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the species that all depend on plants, humans being one

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of them. So it could end up being a global

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>extinction event. It could also be something where it just

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>changes the climate globally where you know, we actually do

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>have a really harsh winter because the sun's light just

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't hitting the surface and warming it the way it

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>usually would. Uh. And we see, we see things that

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 1>could point us into like suggest that that's true by

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>by things like like a volcanic eruptions where a lot

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of matters is ejected into the atmosphere and it can

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>affect uh, local weather patterns. Now, when we're talking about

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear winner, we're talking about something that would last

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>longer than a you know, just a month or two.

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty it's a it's a it's a one

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of those doomsday scenarios. It's a sobering thought, to be sure.

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Um And uh, you know, it's one of the reasons

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in this is, you know, to see the

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>flip side, you know, the idea that that nuclear energy

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 1>can be used as a very efficient and clean source

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of power. Of course, we saw we we talked about

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the Fukushima UM reactor last year, right after it happened. UM,

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but that's not the same as an intentionally intentionally using

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>nuclear power to cause the destruction of many people. So UM,

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's amazing to me personally that a little tiny

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:56.240
<v Speaker 1>atom can be used to do these amazing things, whether

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, and I mean amazing and the clinical

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>good thing, instructive or destructive. It's it's amazing. It is amazing,

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>And well, probably I think what we'll need to do

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>is in a future podcast, we'll have to do a

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:13.879
<v Speaker 1>full episode just on the Manhattan Project, because the if

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you look at a list of names of the people

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 1>associated with it, if you've ever taken any any classes

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 1>in physics, you're going to recognize a lot of those names.

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the era that the Manhattan Project existed in

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>was remarkable in the sense of it was it was

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>an unprecedented era of scientific exploration and innovation. UM. One

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of those where you just it was phenomenal the amount

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of of uh work and scientific discovery that went on

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 1>at that time, and in no small part that was

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 1>due to things like World War World. World War two

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:58.080
<v Speaker 1>was definitely one of the reasons why that those those

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>advances were made at the pace they were. It's not

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 1>the only reason. It was one of those things where

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff doing together all at once and

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of created this environment. Anyway. Hence for another podcast,

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.760
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