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Speaker 1: Also media.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's Behind the Bastards, a podcast hosted by a

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Speaker 2: man who is legally a judge and his friend Greezy Will,

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Speaker 2: who is legally greasy Will legally.

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Speaker 3: Not allowed to drive anymore.

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Speaker 4: Oh really did that happen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, every time you said colmbs with an L,

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Speaker 3: I took a sip over the last two episodes.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm just trash man.

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Speaker 3: I hope you've enjoyed this Behind the Bastards drinking game

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Speaker 3: that I have embarked upon.

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Speaker 2: Go back in time and just have like, what about

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Speaker 2: fourteen shots? Yeah? Uh So the late nineteen nineties is

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Speaker 2: an era in which Bad Boy Records is growing by

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Speaker 2: leaps and bounds and Diddy is getting rich as buck.

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Speaker 2: We are talking the insane pile, the cash pile so

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Speaker 2: large that you're only op is to either get really

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Speaker 2: into cocaine or start a series of ill conceived small businesses.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Diddy, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure does both. Actually two choices.

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Speaker 2: Wher's gonna sit in that failure.

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Speaker 3: While I was gonna make a decision to step out

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Speaker 3: of the darkness and die into the darkness, buddy, He.

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Speaker 2: Steps out of the darkness to launch a restaurant called Justin.

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Speaker 2: This is named after his oldest son. He starts the

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Speaker 2: first Justin in New York City in nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: and he franchises it out to Atlanta the following year.

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Speaker 2: The New York location shuts down after about a decade.

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Speaker 2: Sean claims because he wanted to find a larger location,

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Speaker 2: but he just never opens a new one.

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Speaker 4: I think it just failed.

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Speaker 3: This is the story of my mom when she said

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Speaker 3: the basement that we lived in, and then we just

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Speaker 3: lived in a basement for like eight years.

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Speaker 4: Good times, Mom.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is Diddy's version that now the Atlanta location hangs

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Speaker 2: on a little while longer. It eventually shuts down in

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Why here's a summary from an article in

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Speaker 2: b Et in July twenty eleven. Did he was sued

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Speaker 2: after music executive Tony Austen, a patron of the Atlanta Eatery,

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Speaker 2: was shot in the parking lot. Austin, former a and

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Speaker 2: music with another man when someone opened fire on the vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Austin alleged that the proprietors of Justin's were aware of

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Speaker 2: dangerous and hazardous conditions at the establishment, but failed to

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Speaker 3: Now isn't that something?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that something shocking? Shocking?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: By the time Justin's opened, Sean had split from Justin's

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Speaker 2: mother to date a model named Kim Porter, who gave

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Speaker 2: him his second son. In nineteen ninety eight, he launched

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Speaker 2: a fashion label, Sean John Sean John, Yeah man.

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Speaker 3: And it was the it brand. You know, I was

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Speaker 3: the shit. It was Boss and Sean John and foubu Man.

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Speaker 2: We can say markedly more successful than his restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Also, I need a fact check you on the oldest

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Speaker 1: son thing. He has an adopted son who's older named Quincy.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, and his adopted son who is older named Quincy. Sure,

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Speaker 2: interesting fascinating name. Now that year, the year that he

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Speaker 2: starts Shawn John, he is nominated for five Grammys. If

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Speaker 2: you want to know what a Grammy looks like, just

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Speaker 2: look behind Will.

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Speaker 4: And do a right on camera.

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Speaker 3: Off.

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Speaker 4: I guess, but I wasn't in the mood to turn

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Speaker 2: I noticed an episode you got it fucking back lit

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Speaker 2: was the first thing you did with that take a

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Speaker 2: shot out of it?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely?

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Speaker 3: In fact, you know what, to be fair, this is

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Speaker 3: behind the Bastards little we should do this on air

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Speaker 3: because like you know, it's.

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Speaker 4: Like, what else do you do when you get a Grammy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So also true.

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Speaker 3: I need you to understand that when I got this Grammy,

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Speaker 3: I was about to have a kid. At the time,

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Speaker 3: I had a bad month where my car the transmission dot.

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Speaker 3: It's just basically my point is I had like maybe

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Speaker 4: I still spent two hundred dollars on a bottle of

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Speaker 4: Don Julio.

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Speaker 2: Priorities are important so that.

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Speaker 3: I could take a shot out of my Grammy, because

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Speaker 3: that's the only reason to get one of these things.

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Speaker 3: What kind of like what kind of person gets this

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Speaker 3: to brag to their friends? No, like, this is to

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Speaker 3: take shots out of because it's funny.

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Speaker 2: And you're not going to get content like this from

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Speaker 2: the pod Save America.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting it from the Bowlwark, You're not getting

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Speaker 2: it from last podcast on the left. Only Behind the Bastards.

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Speaker 4: This is basically when Elon smoked a.

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Speaker 2: Blood honestly, maybe Joe Rogan, you might get this on

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan, you would.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, although we would both be racist

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Speaker 3: and one of us have some sex pest crimes behind.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you would be trying to convince my listeners to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, inject bleach into their assholes in order

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Speaker 2: to build muscle masts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eating like six hundred like like worms or silkworms

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Speaker 3: specifically silkworms. Eat silkworms for your colon health.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd be trying. Well, I do actually think

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Speaker 2: you should eat more elk. It's delicious, now, delicious, It's

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Speaker 2: very tasty.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: So that year, the same year he opened Sean John,

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Speaker 2: he gets nominated for five Grammys. Bad Boy pulls in

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million dollars in revenue.

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Speaker 4: What year is that?

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Speaker 2: That is ninety eight?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So do you know what Grammys those were that

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Speaker 4: he won?

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Speaker 2: That? I don't know. I could have looked that up,

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Speaker 2: but I'm a hack and a fraud. Now, from this

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Speaker 2: point forward in the story, Sean has infinite money, right,

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Speaker 2: which he still does basically so now, as I noted

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Speaker 2: last episode, he'd always had a knack for throwing huge

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Speaker 2: ninety eight is also the year of his first white party.

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Speaker 2: These were the events where he'd invite piles of celebrities

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is starting to happen in the era of

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Speaker 4: This is ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: This is like the beginning of the internet, where like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone wears white because did he thought he

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Speaker 2: don't want to be complimenting the man, but he doesn't

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Speaker 3: That's not a bad The parties like legit, it's like

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Speaker 3: White is the first time you wear it. It is

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Speaker 2: Well, part of what I love is you can really

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Speaker 2: Look at some of the people below him, like that

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Speaker 2: You don't look like a rap star.

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Speaker 2: You get this wild mix of like beautiful people and

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Speaker 2: You've got like part of it is because these first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then Sophie's gonna show you next Regis Philbn.

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Speaker 2: Like he like like you would cast him in needful things.

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Speaker 2: He is selling you a cursed petrola. That's how Regis

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Speaker 1: The wedding cross designer? I can't, I don't I can't tell.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it's all of these people are rich,

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Speaker 3: The only poor people at these parties were the people

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Speaker 2: And the people being sex trafficked.

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Speaker 1: I look at like I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Like the devil. Yeah, my hands are too much.

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Speaker 2: I can see both of my hands. I ain't fucking

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Speaker 4: Uh was it?

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Speaker 2: He wants to be a millionaire?

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Speaker 3: At this point? I wish that we could just really see,

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Speaker 3: like if there was a guilt aura around every person

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Speaker 4: Are is a human being, because.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a fascinating shade above that crowd there.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna have an aura that looks like the drink

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Speaker 3: You are just as likely to be completely innocent in

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Speaker 3: are to parties complicit in all the bullshit he did.

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Speaker 2: There are definitely, especially at the end at the after parties,

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Speaker 3: Happily, he should be mentioned, but these are two different events.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason for it. The white parties are his

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Speaker 2: But also, you know, like they're legitimacy into the black

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Speaker 3: Yes, in almost every single one of these stories there

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Speaker 4: But the nineties, hey, let's be fair.

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Speaker 2: The white parties. Like, the most intense photo I've seen

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Speaker 2: That's not the problem. Yeah, not at some gay rappers

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Speaker 2: Where they're committing sex crimes, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, unless unless you know that's part of the blackmail,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like not that the two ven diagram circles

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Speaker 2: No, No, because he's not again, he's not stupid. That's

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Speaker 2: But here's a quote. The dealer said, did he opened

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Speaker 3: Way like the representatives to be talking about any of

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Speaker 2: And there's you know, the dealer claims he also saw

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's one.

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Speaker 3: It's very good to look like there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Now, in nineteen ninety nine, Diddy was arrested

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Speaker 4: That's his line. That's his liney, that's where he calls it. Hey, man,

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Speaker 3: Crucified on a Although I'm not gonna lie twelve year

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Speaker 4: That's so sacrilegious. So to be fair, as.

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Speaker 3: Man. That's the thing is like money is the savior

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Speaker 2: a woman in the probably someone. It's one of those

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00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: One of the things that's amazing is that like if

444
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: you read that, like a dispute ensued, shots were fired.

445
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 2: Did he is so rich at this point that he

446
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 2: has become included by journalists in the special exonerative grammatical

447
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: case that only get normally. It's like for cops, right,

448
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: shots were fired, someone was hit, there was a gun

449
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: not registered, a legal.

450
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 4: Gun in his possession.

451
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just so amazing.

452
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole situation, and there's there's still a lot

453
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: of like what happened, Yeah, the story gets really convoluted.

454
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: There's stuff coming out right now about it. You know

455
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 3: that it's been twenty years and we're still just now

456
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: getting like the pieces that come out about stuff about

457
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: like oh, this actually happened or this person was involved.

458
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: So it's definitely a bit of like you know, lost

459
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: a time and the whole concept of how unreliable human

460
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: beings are, like recounting things that have happened to them,

461
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 3: even completely sober, with no issues, not at a club

462
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 3: at two o'clock in the.

463
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 4: Morning in New York.

464
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: You know, I have clear procedural memories of about thirty

465
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: percent of our friendship.

466
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's all flashes.

467
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: It's like all flashes. It's lot.

468
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: Turns out, so Combs thanked God after the verdict and

469
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: made a big show of going to church after. To

470
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: further separate himself from the event, he changed his name

471
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: officially to telling Vanity Fair. When I changed names, I

472
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: put periods on those eras and the P Didty era

473
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: I love that got off from a fucking club shooting

474
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: time to become P Diddy. The P Diddy era was lucrative. Indeed,

475
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: he released more albums, he acted in several movies, and

476
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: he started producing reality television. He gets that Sakvod good.

477
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 4: Deal, right, Yeah, this is right?

478
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yep, making the band, yep, making the band.

479
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: In two thousand and two, he won awards for his

480
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: menswear fashion line. Sean John did cause a minor scandal

481
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: for him when it was found that the clothing he

482
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: sold was made in Honduran's sweatshops. With a terrible record

483
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: for workers' rights.

484
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 3: It happens, doesn't it.

485
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: It happens.

486
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you're gonna gonna try and get that.

487
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 4: That canna be some sweatshots.

488
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna have to sweatshot.

489
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: None of that kept him down for long. In two

490
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: thousand and four, he performed at the Super Bowl, he

491
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: started his famous voter Dyke campaign.

492
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: That election, man, that was huge. If you were a

493
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: teenager in the nineties.

494
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: UD Diddy was telling me to vote yep.

495
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 4: DP Diddy was recommending people to you.

496
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

497
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: Money continued to flow by the hundreds of millions. As

498
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: the bushyars came to an end, P did he changed

499
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: his name yet again, this time dropping the P and

500
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: becoming just Diddy. His white parties remained infamous social events,

501
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: but he also held increasing numbers of freak offs. These

502
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: were not for public consumption and acted as an opportunity

503
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: for him to provide himself and his celebrity friends with

504
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: endless young women drugs and young women on drugs. Now,

505
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: this brings me to the story of La Troya Grayson,

506
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: who had aged twenty three to one tickets via a

507
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: radio show to attend a ditty party. Her only recollections

508
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: of the event were meeting Mary J. Blige, having a drink,

509
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 2: and then blacking out. Because again she was drugged, She

510
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: has hazy memories of three or four guys she didn't

511
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: know taking her out of the room. She woke up

512
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: in the hospital, very ill and vomiting until she was

513
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: released several hours later. Quote. I left with no shoes on.

514
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: My shirt was kind of ripped. I noticed all my

515
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: money was taken out of my purse except for like

516
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: twenty dollars. I got robbed for my money. I had

517
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: just enough to get back to a motel in a

518
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: cab because.

519
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: So fucked up, Like these people are also not wealthy people.

520
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: They're doing this because they don't have money.

521
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: Out She what a contest on the radio and then

522
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: you get robbed anyway.

523
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: Party now.

524
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: She also says she realized afterwards that her vagina was sore.

525
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: She's not certain what happened because again she was drugged.

526
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: Drugged almost certainly not a good story.

527
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember half the things that happened to

528
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: me yesterday. Half super you know. Yeah, literally they found

529
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 4: baby oil.

530
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: With GHB and it. They weren't fucking around up in

531
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: that place a marble. In the wake of all of this,

532
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: I've read a ton of stories of people that have

533
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: recounted like their their Diddy situation, and so many of

534
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: them like induced with drugs in the most despicable ways,

535
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: the unexpected ways, not even drinking ways, like the I

536
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: had a soda ways, you know, like not crossing even

537
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: a boundary of alcohol, you know. And it's so it's

538
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: like to see this ship happen to people, It's it's

539
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: like it's it's targeted and mean and shitty. It's like

540
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: it's it's just like, yes, it's evil. It is evil.

541
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm not a god person, but it's evil. It's like

542
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: going after people that that are just living normal lives

543
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: and trying.

544
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: To person one a context, one a contest and this

545
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: is what and this is how and this is how

546
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: it ended. Like that's disgusting, vile, evil.

547
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's it's horrible. It's like the type of

548
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: ship that you're like, what the oh.

549
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: And I'm not done with the story, unfortunately.

550
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to read next. From an article on MSN.

551
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: After the incident, Grayson flew back to her home state, Oklahoma,

552
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: and he claims to have received an unsettling phone call

553
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: the next day in which a female allegedly attempted to

554
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: dissuade Grayson from speaking up Regarding the ordeal, She recounted

555
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: the anonymous woman's warning she had all my information and

556
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: was basically telling me that I couldn't do anything about it,

557
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: that puff Daddy was a famous person and I wouldn't

558
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: get anywhere with the issue if I tried to do anything. Puzzled,

559
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: Grayson queried, so, I'm like, well, how did you even

560
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: get my phone number? Do you know anything about my

561
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: money being missing? She's like, no, I don't know nothing

562
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: about that. I'm like, well, I mean, how did you

563
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: even get my phone number?

564
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: Rude, man, It's just so dark, dude. This is.

565
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: The power dynamic.

566
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: As someone who has been in the industry, right, It's

567
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: like even people that.

568
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: You're like a teenager, twenty year old girl whatever from

569
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: fucking Oklahoma with no money and he has goddamn p daddy.

570
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 3: Let me let me put this in perspective for people

571
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: for real.

572
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I was going into the music industry.

573
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: I was a twenty six year old male, six foot tall,

574
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: hundred eighty five pounds in.

575
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: The pretty decent shape, you know, with combat experience.

576
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: Because I was an ex marine with combat experience who

577
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: had been shot twenty eight times. I felt pressure from

578
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: people at times. I felt pressured to do things that

579
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do at times. You know, So

580
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 3: in perspective of like being just like a naive person

581
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: trying to get into the music industry like young, like

582
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: like no real harsh life experience, it is easy to

583
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: see that you could be asked to do something, to

584
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: be put in positions as you don't want to be in,

585
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: and how far people will make you go just because

586
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: you're afraid, because you're like actually believe that, like, yeah,

587
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: you have power that I don't understand.

588
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: And we're talking about the people who know something was

589
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: done to them and who have spoken out about it.

590
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: For every one of these not only are there obviously

591
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: there are people who haven't stroken up, but there are

592
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: also people who maybe years away from like actually coming

593
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: to Grips with no, actually that was bad, that was

594
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: like really fucked up what happened? I even thought about

595
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: it as like a good thing for a while, or

596
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: at least like a mixed thing bag form of it, Like, no,

597
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: that was actually really fun. Like, there's people coming to

598
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: terms with that right now.

599
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: Still, yeah, absolutely.

600
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: Grayson is not yet part of any of the ongoing

601
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: lawsuits against Sean, but her case represents the edge of

602
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: how women were victimized at his events right in that

603
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: she's not entirely sure what happened or even if she

604
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: was sexually assaulted because again drug, but the well lit

605
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: photos full of celebrities existed for one purpose to burnish

606
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: Sean's image. In order to keep his famous and wealthy

607
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: friends happy and to sate his own desires. He also

608
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: had to bring in cau as you stated, all of

609
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: these young women to be at the to act as

610
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: party favors. Right, that's how we bring you have these

611
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 2: radio contests. Some of them are paid sex workers, some

612
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: of them are women. Okay, you've just gotten started in

613
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: your career, you know, in the music industry or as

614
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: a model. You're at a low level in it right now.

615
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: Why don't you like come over to this party? You know, like,

616
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: why don't you, uh, you know and that, and then

617
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: you get there and then you get coerced. Some of

618
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: the women at these parties are paid sex workers, but

619
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: many of them are like great that women are being

620
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: poached in one way or another. Right, there's a different

621
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: method for all of them, and that means did he's

622
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: not handling this himself. He has a team of people

623
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: who are using different methods constantly to find women.

624
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: Because these parties are nineteen seventies equivalent of the roadie

625
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: who picks the girls out of the concert.

626
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: You know, this look like they're down more people.

627
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: Than work at the company Sophie and I run. Their

628
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: job is just to keep young women coming to these

629
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: parties as he is spending god knows how many millions

630
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: of dollars a year on just that part of it, right.

631
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: And it shows even when he was busted in Florida,

632
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: I believe it was like he had a drug meal

633
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: with him at the time. It was like he was

634
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: always employing people to be the bad guy in the situation. Right,

635
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: you have someone right ahead of you with the drugs. Yeah, yes,

636
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: you give that shit to somebody else. That's their problem

637
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: if they get caught. You have accepted you. You are

638
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: the one that goes to jail. You say yes, this

639
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: is mine and you go to jail. That's the accepted

640
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: position of that person for sure.

641
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Precious Muir a former Playboy model, was one of

642
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: the women who attended a number of his parties. She

643
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: claims that he provided a car service to drive models

644
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: to and from the events, and that did he had

645
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: agents basically picking women out in public and plying them

646
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: with invites. She summarized the pitch one of these guys

647
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: gave her as I host these amazing parties. Everything is

648
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: taken care of if you don't have to worry about anything.

649
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: We provide accommodation, so when you go to the Hamptons,

650
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: there is a house you can stay at which is

651
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: very beautiful, very lavish, very stylish, and you don't have

652
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: to worry about anything. You don't have to pay it

653
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: for anything. Everything is covered. At the time she started attending,

654
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Precious was new to the industry, without power or connections.

655
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: Being invited to these parties seemed like the opportunity of

656
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: a lifetime. You can impress these guys, make your career,

657
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: and then you're just kind of, as she said, we

658
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: were kind of thrown in at the deep end amongst

659
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: all these people that are well established. People automatically knew

660
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: that we were new faces, we were new talent, and

661
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: we were vulnerable. We were seen maybe as fresh meat.

662
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: The power of influence, the power of like being able

663
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: to change your life in a moment.

664
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, Like we have a thousand of

665
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: these stories.

666
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: We have a thousand of bone thugs in the studio.

667
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: One woman came in and sang the hook, and it

668
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: was the moment of her Like, that's the thing that

669
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: keeps that shit going.

670
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: Is the dream.

671
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 2: If you're in entertainment, I can say, like when I

672
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: was new in my career, if I had had to

673
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: do something horrible for myself and my brain and body

674
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: in order to get a break as a writer, when

675
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: I was a baby writer, like I thought about it,

676
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: like I was like, yeah, I'll do anything, right, Like,

677
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: that's where your head is if you're trying to break in,

678
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: And that's what that's why so much bad stuff.

679
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: Right right, Like it's the hardest.

680
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: I mean, the reward is so great, right, the reward

681
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: of being like at the top of this industry is

682
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: so great that it is really hard to deny that.

683
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: There's like, when you want it that bad, right, you

684
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: want it bad enough to put in eighty hours, one

685
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: hundred hours.

686
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: A week doing it?

687
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you also want it bad enough to like

688
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: cross some lines every now and then.

689
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: You know, and it's difficult to those moments what happens

690
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: to me?

691
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: Right yeah, right, right, everybody goes through that thing.

692
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I'm fine as long as it just

693
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: fucks me up, right, Like that's really the thing.

694
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: It's just gonna fuck me up. Like I can take

695
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: some trauma. Yeah, yeah, I can take some trauma.

696
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: That dude. Everybody that's been in this industry for real

697
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: knows that it's fine if it's fucking me now.

698
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: I have had my own moments of like no, no, no,

699
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: I won't.

700
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: Watch you fuck somebody else up, you know, yeah, And

701
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: I won't watch you do this to another person.

702
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that the problem is that there's just so

703
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: many people who don't have that line.

704
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: Right. Of course, the line is also I'll let you

705
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: fuck me up, like I'll let you ruin me yeah.

706
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: So it's like, as long as no one else is

707
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: seeing that, it's okay.

708
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

709
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: So because of the nature of how the lawsuits are

710
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: coming out over there, I have no choice but to

711
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: jump around. So I'm just going to stay right now.

712
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: In February of twenty twenty four, a record producer named

713
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Rodney Jones Junior filed a federal complaint against Sean, accusing

714
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: him of running a human trafficking network to stock his

715
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: parties with women and girls from a write up and Vulture.

716
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: According to Jones, as he alleges in the complaint, Combs

717
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: reached out to Jones in twenty twenty two to help

718
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: him produce songs, but Jones claims the work Comebs required

719
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: of him went far beyond producing music. He claims in

720
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: the lawsuit that he was tasked with procuring drugs and

721
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: soliciting sex workers to perform sex acts to the pleasure

722
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: of mister Combs. Jones alleges that Combs also required him

723
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: to tape these sex acts, and that Combs would often

724
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: threaten to inflict bodily harm on him if he did

725
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: not comply with his demands. Jones alleged in his complaint

726
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: that Combs kept specific bottles of alcohol designated for females

727
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: on hand, and according to mister Jones, mister Combs forced

728
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: all the women to drink laced de Leon liquor. Upon

729
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: information and belief, mister Combs laced the liquor with ecstasy.

730
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: The lawsuit claims. He also accuses Combs of sexual harassment

731
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: and assault for allegedly grabbing him without his consent and

732
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: forcing him to work while Comb's paraded around naked. Jones

733
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: also alleges that Combs once left him alone in a

734
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: makeshift studio on a yacht with Cuba Gooding Junior. Goddam,

735
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: I have been twitching with anticipations.

736
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: Where comes in?

737
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 3: God damn it, Cuba good enginr Oh my god, dude,

738
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: the fucking Cuba Gooding.

739
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: If he is start to know he gropes the guy.

740
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: Folks, he is the worst.

741
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: Cuba Gooding Junior. If you are watching on YouTube right

742
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: now or whatever, I'm.

743
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: Here going big twitching waiting.

744
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: For Cuba Gooding Junior's name to come out of your mouth,

745
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: because goddamn Cuba Gooding Junior, the disgusting piece of ship.

746
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: Cuba Gooding Junior.

747
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 3: Every read spend ten minutes of your life and read

748
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 3: about what Cuba Gooding Junior did to this guy, and

749
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: then follow that up with a cursory. I mean, the

750
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: least the Google search of anything else he's done. That

751
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: guy is the biggest piece of ship that is ever.

752
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: If you've ever wondered like we all did for a

753
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: period of time after he won that oscar.

754
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: Why hasn't he been him? Because he's a monster. He's

755
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 4: a monster, because he's fucking monster. This is my Hannibal

756
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: Burta's Bill Cosby moment.

757
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: Fucking Cuba Gooding Junior is a monster and we need

758
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: to connect laws and federal goddamn statues against this person.

759
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: He is a horrible human being and and what he

760
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: has done to the world is disgusting.

761
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: Take the sanctions off of Cuba, the country and put

762
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: them off onto Cuba the guy immediately immediately.

763
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: You know who he did play though radio? He played

764
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: fucking O J.

765
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: Simpson at that and to be honest, he was king.

766
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: He played in the in the TV show where Ross

767
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: from Friends played rock.

768
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: One of your favorite things, one of my favorite.

769
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Things, dude. It breaks my heart every time I think

770
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: about that thing, because.

771
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 4: Like, oh God, Cuba good to June is a horrible

772
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: human being. He did horrible things.

773
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and somehow knocks it out of the park, is Ohjay.

774
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: Not how No, but like has managed to evade all

775
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: of this puppy like.

776
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: Hopefully, and that's coming to an end now because stuff

777
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: about him, more stuff is coming out about him, you know,

778
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: we could talk more about Q, but I think we've

779
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: we've made our point.

780
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: He'll get his own episode. Give it time, yeah.

781
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: Combs's lawyers have denied the allegations and described Jones as

782
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: a con man. Subsequent allegations and the federal indictment against

783
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: Combs seemed to back up a number of the allegations

784
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: made by Jones. A few months before Jones filed that complaint.

785
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: In February and December of twenty twenty three, A Jane

786
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: Doe filed a lawsuit in Manhattan alleging that she was

787
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: gang raped and trafficked by Combs and Bad Boy Records

788
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: president Harvey Pierre when she was in the eleventh grade.

789
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: These allegations comport with the scenario Precious Mirror described in

790
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: her interview with The Mirror. Apparently, Pierre met this eleventh

791
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: grader at a lounge in Detroit and used Diddy's name

792
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: to draw her in. Holmes then approached and told her, Hey,

793
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: you're welcome on my private jet, which was flying to

794
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: his studio. Once they were there, she was given lots

795
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: of drugs and quote gang raped by Combs, Pierre, and

796
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: an unknown third person. There are a lot of other

797
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: hideous details.

798
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: You know, yes said term gang rate.

799
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: Make no mistake, this is a story that repeats itself

800
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: dozens and dozens of times across every so many to

801
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: the point where it starts to be like, oh my god,

802
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: we missed Jimmy Saville for like, yeah, sixty years, we

803
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: didn't see it. He's getting his episode soon.

804
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: We missed it all, oh man, turns out we almost

805
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: always do. Yeah, yeah, we miss it a lot of times.

806
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: Turns out we're not as brilliant as we think we're.

807
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: The rumors abounded.

808
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: There was tons of it happening, like you hear it

809
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: all the time, but you just make like you make

810
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: the decisions to keep yourselves out of those situations a.

811
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: Smaller scale, just being you know, I've been in comedy.

812
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: I was adjacent. I was never a big stand up guy,

813
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: but like I did a little and a lot of

814
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: my friends did. I went out to regular events as

815
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: I was employed in comedy, and like you just get

816
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: told by people. You meet someone and they'll be like, oh,

817
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: we should hang out, and then someone else will be like,

818
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: don't hang out.

819
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't, don't don't hang out with.

820
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: And it's usually usually a woman that you work with

821
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: will say like, that guy's piece of shit. You don't

822
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: want to write that guy's a piece of shit. You

823
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: don't want to know them. That guy's a piece like that,

824
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: you know.

825
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I said that earlier too. It's like

826
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: that old krusty dude that's like, hey man.

827
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: Don't work with that guy. You know, Like, yeah, you

828
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: don't want to be new.

829
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: You hear the stories for a long time before you're

830
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: ever asked to do the things you know and like.

831
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: But the problem comes when you don't hear the stories.

832
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: You know. The problem comes when you are new to

833
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: town and you're the first person to sit down at

834
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: YEP and somebody's like, hey man.

835
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: Fucking Oklahoma, right and getting flown in.

836
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. All you know is the RepU of that person

837
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: that exists in the tabloids or on the internet. You

838
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: don't know the story about hey man, don't.

839
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 4: Go to those parties because it's not good, yo.

840
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: Bad shit. In two thousand and six, Ditty's longtime partner

841
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: Kim Porter, gave birth to twins. That was the same

842
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: year that a friend gave birth to his daughter Chance.

843
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: Kim considered this a betrayal and broke things off. With Diddy.

844
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 2: While all this was going on, he was also starting

845
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: a quote unquote relationship with a young woman named Cassandra Ventura.

846
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: He had signed her to his label at age nineteen

847
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: and started a sexual relationship with her shortly thereafter. He

848
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: was thirty seven at the time. It was Cassandra's allegations

849
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: against him that would eventually open the floodgates of legal

850
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: consequences for Ditty. But before we get to that, I'm

851
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: going to quote from The Independent summarizing just a series

852
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 2: of his trials in the mid aughts. Eight months after

853
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: his twenty fourteen Howard commencement speech, TMZ reported that he

854
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: punched Drake in a Miami nightclub because of a viewed

855
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: over a song, which, in a rare case for these episodes,

856
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: points for Diddy on that. Six months later, he was

857
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: arrested and charged in California with three counts of assault

858
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: with a deadly weapon, one count of making terrorist threats,

859
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: and one count of battery after allegedly attacking one of

860
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: his football coaches at u C l A. The assault

861
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: reportedly involved a kettlebell, but prosecutors ultimately decided not to pursue.

862
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: Because his son, Justin Ye to play football, but.

863
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: You gotta do something real bad for me to be

864
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: on the side of a football coach. Guys, anyway, speaking

865
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: of football coaches, coach yourself on over to this podcast.

866
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: Sorry, we've been at this a while.

867
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: And we're back and finishing up the epic tale.

868
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: Epic tale of and.

869
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Into the stuff we are.

870
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: We're going to get into the Kassie stuff now. Yes, Cassie,

871
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: who was for a while his in kedu. If we're

872
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: doing the yogem meshra anyway, whatever, let's talk to after

873
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: his split from kim Porter. She was the woman largely

874
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: seen as Diddy's public partner.

875
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: Right.

876
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: She was a singer and a model in her own rights. Yeah,

877
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: very talented. The two are generally depicted in media as

878
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: like a power couple, right. In a civil lawsuit filed

879
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: earlier this year, Miss Ventura claims that from the beginning,

880
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: Sean used his wealth and power to force her into

881
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: a quote manipulative and coercive romantic and sexual relationship. He

882
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: assaulted her, constantly beating and kicking her and regularly leaving

883
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: quote black eyes, bruises and blood. Cassandra describes his freak

884
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: offs in her lawsuit and alleged that he would often

885
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: secretly film the days of debauchery with his famous friends.

886
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: The videotapes doubled as fuel for extortion if anyone crossed him,

887
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: which is part of why his social circle was so

888
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: loyal and so quiet for so long. Right, he has

889
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: videos of them doing the crimes. Again, The movie Don't

890
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: Blink really does cover a lot of this, and as

891
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: a bonus has Christian Slater and that's never a bad time.

892
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Christians is amazing.

893
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 4: Man, he's fucking great. Yeah, I love, I love Yeah. Yeah,

894
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: it's dark man, it's like this.

895
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 3: Do you talk about the fact that kim Porter also dies?

896
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: We yes, yes, age forty seven. That hasn't happened yet though.

897
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of like where it gets

898
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: to the point where it's like, god, dude, like the

899
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: people around.

900
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: You, so many things.

901
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just too many things.

902
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: The kid cutting explosion, like of his car where he says.

903
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: His car, yes, yes, there's a kid cut it.

904
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: Yes, There's so many things that you're like, oh my god, dude,

905
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: you are a bad person.

906
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: You're a bad friend.

907
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: There's something bad about you. And I just like every

908
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: person has a oh did you ever work with this

909
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: guy type story. It's like it's it's one of those

910
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: like badges of honor almost sometimes here in the industry

911
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, yeah, man, I spent a week

912
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 3: with Diddy.

913
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: Man, you know, yeah.

914
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: Man.

915
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, let's talk about the Kid Cutty story,

916
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: because you hear about this first. In twenty twelve, gossip

917
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: blogs report that Cassie, who was dating Kid Cutty at

918
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: the time, and Diddy, had had a fight in a club.

919
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: And now in the lawsuit, Cassie claims that did he quote,

920
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: blew up a man's car after he learned he was

921
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: romantically interested in Ventura. And here's my favorite quote. This

922
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: is from the Salon dot com article. The New York

923
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Times said through a spokesperson that Kid Cutty confirmed Cassie's

924
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: account that his car exploded in his driveway. This is

925
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: all true. He said, Oh my god, Yeah, just a

926
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: car explosion.

927
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 4: No way to say who did it? Yeah, man, who knows.

928
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: I was pissing this one dude off, And sometimes shit happens.

929
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes shit happens. Yeah, I don't know anything about him,

930
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: but he's cool and he has one less car than

931
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: he would otherwise have. We can say that for sure,

932
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: so true from the New York Times quote. Cassie in

933
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: her lawsuit said that mister Combs directed frequent freak offs

934
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: at high end hotels around the country, directing at the

935
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: events to poor excessive amounts of oil on herself and

936
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: tell her where to touch the prostitutes while he filmed

937
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: and masturbated. We're not gonna like go into a ton

938
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: of detail about the massive amount of baby oil, but

939
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: there's a lot of it. Some of it's drugged.

940
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: Us. There was a reason why they confiscated like a

941
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: thousand bottles of baby literally thou Yeah, it was like

942
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: it was like there's a reason why that that happened,

943
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: and there was absolutely.

944
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: Costco had to come out and a dog.

945
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: We don't.

946
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: We don't sell that ship.

947
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't that ship.

948
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: We are not in on that ship.

949
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: The only reason I can think of to drug it

950
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: is because you are getting it inside people in their

951
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: mucus membranes.

952
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, like.

953
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Fucking mbma or whatever. It isn't going to absorb. It's

954
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: not a bodily in someone's vagina. And so again, like

955
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: it's just it's hideous, right, Like we don't need to

956
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: belabor that point. I think you get it right. Cassie

957
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: says in her lawsuit he treated the forced encounter as

958
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: a personal art project, adjusting the candles he used for

959
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: lighting to frame the vis that he took.

960
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: Brothers in our tour sex crimes.

961
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

962
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: I wonder if he and Epstein ever a party. They

963
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: certainly had the opportunity.

964
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, but Trump's the common link, which is

965
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: hilarious because yeah, of course you say, didd he is

966
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: a great guy.

967
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: He's my friend and also your best friends with Epstein.

968
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

969
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, kim Porter passes away. The cause of

970
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: death was initially listed as deferred, but it was later

971
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: confirmed that she died of pneumonia. Right, and and a

972
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: lot of.

973
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: Conspiracy talking. There's a lot of paybe but but to

974
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: be fair, I know, King Comb's posted dishes son Yeah, Christian,

975
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: he posted that there has never been any question amongst

976
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: children that his death.

977
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: People do just die sometimes.

978
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: Yes, it's absolutely reasonable to say that people do, in

979
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: fact just die sometimes.

980
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: But yeah again, people have also said maybe that death

981
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 2: should be looked into, and probably not a bad idea.

982
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: Take a look, Take a look. JFK's head just exploded. Yeah.

983
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: I don't just know that. He just did just that.

984
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: Christians just do that.

985
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a pre existing condition, pre existing. In twenty seventeen,

986
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: did he changed his name yet again. He told the

987
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: world he would now go by Love or brother Love

988
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: and really yeah.

989
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of people missed this.

990
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: Era. Knew this, I fucking knew this.

991
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: This is the snoop Lion era.

992
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he legally changes his name because Love is his

993
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: legal middle name. He tells Vanity Fair at the time.

994
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Love is a mission. I feel like that's one of

995
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: the biggest missions that will actually shift things. But besides that,

996
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: we the world is different. We have the Internet, we

997
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: have the power, we have a culture. I have us

998
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: on a five year plan. First off, yeah, talking like

999
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: Stalin there. Second, that was more than five years ago.

1000
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: Had the plan workout, did he?

1001
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1002
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1003
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: Man, good job broken Joseph Diddy Barria hell Now. During

1004
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: this period, Diddy's public image remained mostly benign.

1005
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: In articles from you know he named his youngest baby

1006
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: love right.

1007
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 4: Yes he did.

1008
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens with famous people. You see it with

1009
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: Elon Muskin X. You know, yeah, just name your kids

1010
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: something else. I don't care what you name your kids? Fine?

1011
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alberque, Yeah, why we gotta be weird about everything?

1012
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, in articles from the time he was fitted

1013
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: as a genius producer and interviewer, seemed happy to ignore

1014
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: the numerous assault allegations that way, you know, we're kind

1015
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: of in the shadows but not too shadowy to have found,

1016
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: and the very public fact that he had definitely killed

1017
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: people through negligence and had them murdered. He even managed

1018
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: to avoid me too entirely. In fact, in that interview,

1019
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: he tells Vanity Fair the movement inspired him and quote

1020
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: showed me you can get maximum change. Didn't say a

1021
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: word about his friend Weinstein that he's been looking for

1022
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: a project with what seven.

1023
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, sometimes people are sucking out there doing

1024
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: the you know, dodge ball equivalent of making it through life.

1025
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, I just can't get felt like dodge that bullet.

1026
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: Clearly it's clean sailing from here on out.

1027
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: Which is crazy because I mean, Sophie back on this,

1028
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: the Danny the Cane stuff. They talked about a lot

1029
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: of ship that he did so much super adjacent, you know,

1030
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: it's like never sexual assault, but super adjacent.

1031
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 4: To Robert about this because I was one of the

1032
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: first day.

1033
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aubrio day comes out for years, like at least

1034
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: a couple of years saying I don't think she sees

1035
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: or has evidence, and obviously you don't want to casually

1036
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: before all this breaks, call him a section.

1037
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: He has a lot of money, vocal about him for

1038
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: so many years.

1039
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: Yes, she did everything she could.

1040
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: But also she said Don Junior was her soulmate, so

1041
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: people like really stopped taking her and had an affair

1042
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: with him. There was like a lot of stuff there,

1043
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: so people didn't believe her, but she was fucking right.

1044
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think one of the most direct things

1045
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: she said in twenty twenty two, in an interview on

1046
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: the Call Her Daddy podcast, she said that Diddy had

1047
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: fired her because she quote wasn't willing to do what

1048
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: was expected, not talent wise, but in other areas.

1049
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: Right, right, brutal, brutal, brutal brutal, very clear what that means.

1050
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And here's another quote from an article again this

1051
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: is before Everything Breaks in Varieties is twenty nineteen called

1052
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: Abrio Dat is still recovering from making the band PTSD

1053
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: and making the past the reality show that didn't Oh mab.

1054
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: Them suffered so much. It's so horrible.

1055
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 2: Puff is a very difficult person to work with. Everything

1056
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: had to be perfect. I remember times where he looked

1057
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: at my toenails and was like, what is your third

1058
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: toenail doing? Go get that shit fixed before you walk

1059
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 2: into a room. Or we would be in rehearsals performing

1060
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: an hour and a half sece you get your toenails,

1061
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: and I would walk in for five minutes with a

1062
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: camera and say, Aubrey, why are you sweating? You look

1063
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: like a wet dog. You're the hot one, so you

1064
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: think anyone wants to see that? And again, this is

1065
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: all pretty minor next to all the horrible sections.

1066
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: It's like, you understand, it's like somebody that will go

1067
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: to the links of like fucking with your third toe,

1068
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: like the type make you feel powers about who you are.

1069
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no, guys, listen. I distinctly remember a

1070
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: clip from that show where all of them were presented

1071
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: to him and he like went one by one critiquing

1072
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: their personal appearance, and the things he said were just

1073
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: horshic and inhuman. But specifically that story is crazy because

1074
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: like Aubrey, like basically you could even see it and

1075
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: it like morphed into like whatever it was asked of her,

1076
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: and then he'd tear that down too, So, you know.

1077
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: To Devil's advocate this stupid situation because I hate to

1078
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: do it, but like I've been on the I've been

1079
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: in reality shows for some reason when you want to

1080
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: like hire somebody to pretend to be an engineer in

1081
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 3: a reality show.

1082
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 4: Because all of these people want to be musicians.

1083
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: Like I get hired to do these like stupid reality

1084
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: shows to play myself in a reality show. And so

1085
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: I've had these situations where I see the way it

1086
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: actually goes down, and it is absolutely people pushing the

1087
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: worst narrative. But here's the thing that I think that's

1088
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 3: really important to understand about it is that some people

1089
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: their worst is not that bad, you know, like in

1090
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: comparative speaking, it's like you see them do these like

1091
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: like like oh, they're trying to ham it up for TV,

1092
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: and they're not really good at being like me and people, right,

1093
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: you can feel the difference between somebody who's capable of

1094
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: actually coming up with shit that makes people feel horrible

1095
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: about themselves, you know, like to really like be a

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00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: shitty person towards somebody. And that's the type of thing

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: that you see in this where it's like man to

1098
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: like attack your toes like the way your toes look

1099
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: to attack like these like arbitrary things. They know that

1100
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: that's something that cuts deep on a person, that makes

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00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: them second guess themselves, like deep inside themselves, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, absolutely so. About five years after saying that

1103
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: he was inspired by me too in that article for

1104
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: Vanity Fair, Cassandra came forward with her lawsuit and she

1105
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: was joined very quickly in a flood of lawsuits. Not

1106
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: all of the people charging Sean with sexual assault are women.

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00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: We have mostly focused on that, but I want to

1108
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: be very clear that he is alleged of assaulting men

1109
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: to not just through Cuba. One man currently incarcerated in

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00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: Michigan for kidnapping and criminal sexual conduct himself says that

1111
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: did he drugged and raped him in Detroit in nineteen

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00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: ninety seven. A judgment was briefly issued on that case.

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00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: But did he's lawyers, because they hadn't appeared in court,

1114
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: uncleared me what happened, you know. But like that's not

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00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: the only allegation of him abusing a man. To write,

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00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: I just.

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00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: Want to be clear about that, there's just less of it. Yeah,

1118
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: it's damn near fifty to fifty on the ratio on this.

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00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: It's like it's pretty even. He he seems to be

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Speaker 3: an equal opportunity sexual assault.

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00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 2: And he's got famous friends who are gay and creeps.

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00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's also just like so many like allegedly

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00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: things that have happened that like, obviously we can't comment

1124
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: as fact right now, but like as this trial proceeds,

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00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot more will come out. But there's

1126
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: a lot of grooming allegations as well.

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00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: And to be very fair that it would be irresponsible

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00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: to not mention the amount of people that will jump

1129
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 3: on a situation because they are themselves shitty people that

1130
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: will like jump on something, Oh this happened to me

1131
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: because they see the wave and it will give them

1132
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: a tiny bit of respect or money or whatever the fuck.

1133
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 3: But without a doubt, there is allegations that exist inside

1134
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: of this.

1135
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Speaker 1: That are horrifying.

1136
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, horrifying and real.

1137
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: You know.

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00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: So there are so many of these allegations that we

1139
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: were not going to cover.

1140
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: More than them, right, We've done seven part I think

1141
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: this gives you a pretty good understanding of him, and

1142
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 3: the fact that I've cut out allegations which I've cut

1143
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: out like two for everyone I've included.

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00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: It says nothing about the legitimacy of those It's just

1145
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: a space thing. I should say a bit here about

1146
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: Christina Korum kg R R A M. She was Combs's

1147
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: chief of staff and is a codesfendant in the Jones lawsuit.

1148
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: We talked about the lady from Oklahoma who was like

1149
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: brought into a party and drugged and possibly sexually assaulted

1150
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: and then called by a woman afterwards and threatened. I

1151
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: think there's a decent chance that was Christina Korum. Jones

1152
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: claims that Korum bought a lot of the drugs and

1153
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: actually handled the booking and paying of sex workers for

1154
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: Combs's parties. She was his Gillan Maxwell in other words.

1155
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: And also it's worth noting again I keep bringing up

1156
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: that movie that I didn't appreciate as much until this

1157
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: all came out link twice. The woman who is there's

1158
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: like an older woman who is like the creepy sex CEOs,

1159
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: like like Fixer, and she's Christina Korum. That's who I

1160
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: didn't real sie how directed was there.

1161
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: Is always somebody who is adjacent and willing to use

1162
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: their vulnerability with people. You know, their ability to access

1163
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: the vulnerability of people you know, that makes you feel like, Oh,

1164
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: it's a woman.

1165
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about what they There's always

1166
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: one of those.

1167
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: There is always one of those every single time.

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's Christina Korum. In this story, we'll see

1169
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: what happens to where Sean Puffy Combs was arrested on

1170
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: September sixteenth, twenty twenty four, several months after the FBI

1171
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: rated his La mansion and seized firearms, illegal drugs, and

1172
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: more than a thousand bottles of baby oil. Homes has

1173
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: been nied all charges and pled not guilty. More recently,

1174
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: a judge declined to set bail for him, noting that

1175
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: he's still posed a danger to the community.

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00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: He's been nied bail like once a week, once a week.

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00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the same part of the jail.

1178
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 4: Very recently.

1179
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: There's been all sorts of allegations of him, you know,

1180
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: stealing phones or bribing other inmates to let him use

1181
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 3: their phone time and like.

1182
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 4: To intimidate witnesses. Typically like he's already in jail trying

1183
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 4: to run ship from what they say. So it's like

1184
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 4: it's not like he's just chilling out in there being calm.

1185
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 4: He is absolutely still trying to run an intimidation game

1186
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: from inside prison.

1187
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

1188
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 4: And that's the episode. Everybody.

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00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know I feel really good about money.

1190
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: Time to party.

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00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just want to make a lot

1192
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 3: of money so I can do anything I want.

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00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm with you.

1194
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: I think I think we just we build an empire,

1195
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: take it to the FDA.

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: We really, and that'll save us, you know, and our

1197
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: reputations will die historic, you know, in again fight with

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00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: the FDA.

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Speaker 4: That's all I want, the way to go down. Yeah,

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00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 4: it's all I want.

1201
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 3: Because they say you only die when the last person

1202
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: that remembers your name dies. You know.

1203
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: It's like and every one of those FDA agents is

1204
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: gonna remember us.

1205
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 3: Forever, children, all of their children's children, they'll never forget ye.

1206
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna have to start selling supplements first, will

1207
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: You know it's funny to me, man, every time I

1209
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: post on TikTok, people would be like, man, you would

1210
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: really like this behind the bastards, And I always.

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: Every time with him do I ever?

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: And I know that guy so funny yep.

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00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: So this has been Behind the Bastards, a podcast about

1214
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: a guy. I almost named it go for It has

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Speaker 2: been a fantastic time.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate this ship out of you man, Thank you

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00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 4: Appreciating you too. Will let me hang out and get very.

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Speaker 3: Drunk, get extremely drunk while listening to somebody that made

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Speaker 3: me feel icky cool.

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Speaker 4: That's the podcast e experience.

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Speaker 2: I hope they went home or drunk or something to

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Speaker 2: anybody and godspeed.

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