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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio variation.

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Speaker 1: If you've listened to podcasts of mine in the past,

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Speaker 1: that is a topic that comes up all the time,

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Speaker 1: and it goes for exercise, it goes for nutrition, and

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Speaker 1: it also goes for the show. I'm bringing you a

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Speaker 1: variety of different shows so that you get everything you need.

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Speaker 1: The motivation, the nutrition, the science, the experience. Hopefully a

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Speaker 1: little entertainment. But we need all of those things. And

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Speaker 1: I know that many shows focus on just one thing,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine, but I can't. I can't for many reasons,

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Speaker 1: the number one being that I know that you need

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Speaker 1: all those things. That I need all those things, is

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Speaker 1: that we need all those things to be successful in

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Speaker 1: achieving our best lives. We need the nutrition, we need

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Speaker 1: the exercise, we need the motivation, and today's show is

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Speaker 1: a huge one into the motivation, to showing you what

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Speaker 1: can be done, what can be done, what you can achieve,

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Speaker 1: which is so much more than you think. And you

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Speaker 1: hear it all the time. People are great at posting

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Speaker 1: it on social media. Those people aren't living in They're

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Speaker 1: just not. It's easy to post. Answers are right there.

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Speaker 1: It's the application. That's challenging. And one way that I

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Speaker 1: can help make it a little less challenging is to

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Speaker 1: bring you people that have been successful. He's gonna hear

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Speaker 1: their stories, and there is no one way to achieve

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Speaker 1: that success, but you're gonna start to see the common themes.

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Speaker 1: That's what is really helpful. That ven diagram, where's the crossover?

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Speaker 1: What keeps coming up over and over? Now we focus

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Speaker 1: on those things. And my next guest, Carl boumb Guard,

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Speaker 1: seven times US National Track champion, US National one k

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Speaker 1: t T which is kilo record holder male group. He's

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Speaker 1: not young, he's not old, but he's not twenty and

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Speaker 1: he's a six time You see I World Track Championship

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Speaker 1: silver medalist, you go, okay, have no idea what that is.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna tell you. But he didn't come out of

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Speaker 1: the womb riding a bike really fast. In other words,

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Speaker 1: people you have often thought, you know, I had issues.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't run, I was on the bench shin splints,

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Speaker 1: entire childhood ankle issues. To think that I do what

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Speaker 1: I do today crazy, Same thing with Carl. Wait to

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Speaker 1: hear his story and although he has not yet crossed

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Speaker 1: over into that world that many of you, including myself,

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Speaker 1: had a journey, a journey that many people would have

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Speaker 1: stopped along the way and said, I'm done, done, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give up. There's too many obstacles, it's too hard,

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Speaker 1: that that is completely untrue. All right enough, it's time

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Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, Carl bomb Guard, we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. And yes, we are back. As I

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Speaker 1: said in the intro, it's all about variation, and it's

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Speaker 1: about bringing you the best guests, the best information, the

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Speaker 1: best guests, all of that type of variations so you

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Speaker 1: can achieve your goals. And you know, I talked about

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Speaker 1: this frequently that one of the ways I have done

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Speaker 1: it is to follow people who have been successful. And

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Speaker 1: this is yet another example to learn from someone who

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Speaker 1: is crushing it, who was crushing it with you know,

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Speaker 1: many obstacles, injury surgeries. As I said in the in

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty close. So, uh, Carl, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for taking the time. It has been a long time. Absolutely, absolutely, Tom,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been too long, too long for how

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Speaker 1: many years? So let me do you know this math

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Speaker 1: should be simple like nine ten years? Probably right, No,

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Speaker 1: I think we're a little further than that. I think

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Speaker 1: been that long a lot of years. So, as I

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Speaker 1: a Jim, I'm glad I did it. I learned a lot,

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Speaker 1: it confirmed a lot, and just added to that like

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Speaker 1: repertoire of of experiences. And so Carl, you know, let

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Speaker 1: me read again. I read it in the intro, but

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Speaker 1: So we're wired differently. Yeah, right, but give give your bio,

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Speaker 1: thanks time again. I really appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 1: an athlete who's been trying to find my sport. I

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Speaker 1: That's how we're starting, is that it's about that experimentation, right.

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Speaker 1: And and these aren't failures, they're learning stepping stones, right,

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Speaker 1: someone who has gone through everything that we're going to

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Speaker 1: not to say, you know, you can't train people. Of

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Speaker 1: probably seen track cycling once every four years, or you

426
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Speaker 1: know on the Olympics and they're in that bellach room

427
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Speaker 1: it's called they're going around the oval and a lot

428
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Speaker 1: of people think of the two guys one on one

429
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Speaker 1: and then they're going really slow and they almost come

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Speaker 1: to stop and then they sprint. Right. So that's like

431
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Speaker 1: the venue of the track, and so for free listeners,

432
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Speaker 1: that's where I do what I do and when I

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Speaker 1: do it at the highest level I can do it.

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Speaker 1: It has to be in an indoor track. But the

435
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Speaker 1: event itself is basically a time trial from a dead

436
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Speaker 1: stand fill. So you're in a gate, you're stopped, you

437
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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta pick a gear, right that because anybody

438
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Speaker 1: can pick a gear. That's easy and get it going fast,

439
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Speaker 1: but you've got to pick a gear that you know

440
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to apex your speed near the

441
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Speaker 1: end the middle of the end of the event, right

442
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Speaker 1: you want to keep that train going, and so it

443
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Speaker 1: takes a lot of time and effort to figure it out.

444
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Speaker 1: But basically you get going and you start out of

445
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Speaker 1: the gate and it's like a multi phase event because

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Speaker 1: it's like from a dead stand fill. It's like literally

447
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Speaker 1: if you watch it, it's like a dead lift stop,

448
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Speaker 1: which so right out of gate you're using those big bustles,

449
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Speaker 1: huge heart trying to get that bike moving. There's technique

450
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Speaker 1: to it, which admittedly, even eight years in, I have

451
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Speaker 1: a lot to learn on that portion of the event,

452
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Speaker 1: but still learning. Always a student. I was a student

453
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Speaker 1: of all of it, but student particular of that. And

454
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Speaker 1: then you get this thing going, and you all get

455
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Speaker 1: a moving and get your weight swaying and you get

456
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Speaker 1: your going and then you get down into your position

457
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Speaker 1: and it's basically a time trial in time trial position

458
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Speaker 1: as fast as and hard as you can go around

459
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Speaker 1: the around the track. And for my one k kilo

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Speaker 1: as it's called the nickname kilometer, that is fallout effort

461
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Speaker 1: from the gas no stop. You know, I was able

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Speaker 1: to do it in sixty four points something seconds and

463
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Speaker 1: by the time you're done with it, you actually probably

464
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Speaker 1: in the middle of lap four. For me, I literally

465
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Speaker 1: am praying to God to remove me from my body.

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Speaker 1: It hurts that much. Yeah, yeah, seriously, seriously, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, so it comes to finish. And then another

468
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Speaker 1: event that I do that I was actually down in

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Speaker 1: Mexico back in October tempting was the three ks SO

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Speaker 1: three kilometer, which is a much more endurance based event,

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Speaker 1: and it takes that's like super technical. You really gotta

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Speaker 1: paste it. Well, you gotta go hard, but you can't

473
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Speaker 1: go all out. And you know, there's just so much

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Speaker 1: to that event. Wait, wait, wait, how long does that

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Speaker 1: take you? Officially that one will take me three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Call that that's not an endurance event. I'm I'm I'm

477
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Speaker 1: like my I'm throwing up in my mouth a little bit.

478
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Speaker 1: And the fact that you call it that so people

479
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Speaker 1: don't really I just have to emphasize people. You know,

480
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Speaker 1: I've done so many shows on high intensity interval training

481
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Speaker 1: and people think that they're you know, going hard, they're

482
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Speaker 1: not redlining they have no concept most people. There's some

483
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Speaker 1: out there. What Carl is talking about, the fact that

484
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Speaker 1: he just called a three minute event an endurance event

485
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Speaker 1: should just throw up red flags and go you have

486
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Speaker 1: problems Like it is when I tell people that I

487
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Speaker 1: would so much rather run a marathon than do a

488
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Speaker 1: five k. It's for that reason, right, So you are

489
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Speaker 1: not just physiologically, and we'll get into this shortly, you're

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Speaker 1: mentally in that headspace. You enjoy it in some way

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Speaker 1: physiologically and mentally, right, because three minutes is not an

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Speaker 1: endurance call. I hate to break it to you, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. Okay, so from a track stamp from a

494
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Speaker 1: track like so, so it's okay, thanks not for calling

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Speaker 1: that out, Like like seriously, you know, forty K, ten K,

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Speaker 1: fifteen k, you get over twenty minutes. You're newn endurance bent, right,

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Speaker 1: But this is this is absolutely a power event. And well,

498
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Speaker 1: but there is a part of your aerobic system is

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Speaker 1: working in that Like so I can not much anaerobic

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, but but but but

501
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Speaker 1: they're both super all out intensely like like the power

502
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Speaker 1: that we put out there in those things, they're just

503
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Speaker 1: it's just off the charts. He would You wouldn't even

504
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Speaker 1: dream of doing it on your bike unless you were

505
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Speaker 1: doing intervals, right, So it's it's and even then it's

506
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Speaker 1: it's just pains that that that powerful, in that painful,

507
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Speaker 1: it's a power of that. You're right, you're right, well,

508
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: and let's just go there. But yeah, let's go to

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Speaker 1: your mental because listen, I did in preparation for this

510
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Speaker 1: show a little bit. I'm an endurance guy. I don't

511
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Speaker 1: like to do intervals on the bike, and I've gotten

512
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Speaker 1: a way if I'm honest, which I always am. With

513
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Speaker 1: a huge engine, I was blessed right genetics, which means

514
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Speaker 1: I didn't have to do that stuff. And then we

515
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Speaker 1: realized when I want to go faster, I have to

516
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Speaker 1: do it. Yesterday I did a thirty minute, which you

517
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Speaker 1: know with intervals, and it was brutal. And what you

518
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Speaker 1: and I know go a little deep into the physiology

519
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: is you know, if I do running intervals, you see

520
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Speaker 1: peaks and valleys, right, I recover my body flushes the

521
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Speaker 1: lack tape much more efficiently when I then when I

522
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Speaker 1: do bike intervals. When I do bike intervals, they're not

523
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Speaker 1: the valleys that there should be because I'm not doing

524
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Speaker 1: enough of them. So I I cringe. I sweat before

525
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Speaker 1: I even start those type of workouts because I know

526
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Speaker 1: the pain and pain is is relative, but you are

527
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Speaker 1: choosing sixty seconds three minutes all out as far as

528
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Speaker 1: most people would experience it. So how do you prepare

529
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Speaker 1: yourself mentally? Well, that's a that's a yeah, Well that's

530
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: a great question, Tom. I mean it takes I think,

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Speaker 1: kind of a special person from the standpoint of you

532
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: do you know? You do the event. So so you

533
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Speaker 1: go to the track, you find out what you're good at,

534
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Speaker 1: you find out, hey, I'm pretty good at the short

535
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Speaker 1: power stuff. And then it becomes a matter of what

536
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Speaker 1: you want at your motivation. Do I want to succeed

537
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Speaker 1: at this or do I just want to be average

538
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: or below average? Right? Do I want to be so

539
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: I want to do? I want to compete at the top.

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Speaker 1: And so you have to force yourself to do these

541
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Speaker 1: really hard, painful efforts that literally people would go, why

542
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Speaker 1: would you do that? What's the matter with you? Mentally?

543
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Speaker 1: But that is what kind of physical physiological adaptation you

544
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Speaker 1: are required to develop and with your body is you

545
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Speaker 1: need that and you need your body to be able

546
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Speaker 1: to efficiently do that again and again and again. It

547
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Speaker 1: just becomes not easier because you never it never gets easier,

548
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: as they say in cycling, you just go faster, right,

549
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: you never get easier, right. And that's really hard for

550
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Speaker 1: people to understand, Carl, But but tell them more about that. Yeah, So,

551
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: so it takes that mental toughness, um that unless you

552
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Speaker 1: really have that goal, you need the motivation to be

553
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Speaker 1: able to go out and do that kind of stuff.

554
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Speaker 1: You can't. No one in the right mind would just go,

555
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to some of these you know

556
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Speaker 1: kilo intervals or you know two k intervals, like all out.

557
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Speaker 1: You know this this huge waters and I use the

558
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Speaker 1: power of me to when I trained, so I know

559
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: my waters that I gotta hit. And you're like, so

560
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it at this power, and I'm gonna

561
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: do it at this power, and you know, my heart

562
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: rate follows it is you know, all these zone five,

563
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: zone six kind of things, and and it gets it

564
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: gets to me even it's painful. I I cringe sometimes,

565
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Speaker 1: Like when I get later in the season, my body's

566
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Speaker 1: you know in a certain place with my training, I'm

567
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Speaker 1: super tired. I don't want to do them. I mean,

568
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Speaker 1: you just don't. You just look at your calendar and

569
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Speaker 1: you go, oh my god, I put that on there

570
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: for myself today. What what? What? What am I thinking?

571
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: But you know what doing that over and over again

572
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Speaker 1: and doing the events specific training to be successful if

573
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Speaker 1: you event I think is no, I don't think. I

574
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Speaker 1: know is what got me to where I was able

575
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Speaker 1: to get at the end of this past season, where

576
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Speaker 1: I was able to set that kilo national record. There's

577
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: no question, no questions. And you hit on so many

578
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Speaker 1: things that are so important that people here but I

579
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Speaker 1: don't think it takes them time and experimentation. So you know,

580
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Speaker 1: your journey to find what you enjoy, your journey to

581
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: find what you were good at allows you to go

582
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Speaker 1: to that end, and that you are hardwired. I would

583
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Speaker 1: argue for more of the you know again physiologically and

584
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Speaker 1: psychologically for the shorter stuff. I'm the opposite, but we

585
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: both enjoy, you know, I went across the Grand Canyon

586
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: and back, different kind of mental anguish, but something that

587
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I enjoy and that you enjoy in a different way,

588
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: and and and it cuts you, you know, to get

589
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: through those injuries. So just another example, carl of of

590
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Speaker 1: how important goal setting is and that that goal is

591
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Speaker 1: something your y is so huge, you enjoy that, you know, Victor,

592
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: I would argue, it's it's there that you're willing and

593
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: you want to go there, right, And that's crazy, but

594
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: it's everyone has that. Oh yeah, I mean you need

595
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: you need the motivation to to go out and step

596
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: step outside. And I think people don't set my opinion,

597
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I think people don't set goals high enough for themselves.

598
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: Uh they look around who's doing what, it's in the

599
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: middle of the pack, and they're unwilling to reach for

600
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Speaker 1: the brass frame and afraid of failure. And I think

601
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Speaker 1: that's another one of my mental strong points is people

602
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: people will say to me, what, why, what? What possessed

603
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: you to even consider going to race your first national championship.

604
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm a track when you've only been doing this for

605
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: a year, What would even make you consider that? Right?

606
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I'm gonna try, because what's the

607
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: harm and not trying, what's gonna happen? I'm gonna fail? Right,

608
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: and and what and I get up and I do

609
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: it again, which I've done any of times. I have

610
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: had plenty of failures in getting to work. I've gotten

611
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: right right, And you know, I always go back to

612
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you listen to the episode is

613
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: so great with bas Routen u UFC Fighter and I said, like,

614
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like and I said, how do you

615
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: you know exactly what we're talking about? How you deal

616
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: with that? And he goes, listen the worst I thought,

617
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: what's the worst case scenario for me? And he's like,

618
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: it's that I get knocked out and he goes, I

619
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: hear when you get knocked out that it's not really painful,

620
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: and then you wait, I means, so you know, yes,

621
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: there's no failure and uh, you know, when it's something

622
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: you enjoy, you are not only willing you you desire

623
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: to push yourself in that way. Um, and there is

624
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: no like I can't motivate you, coral Like. That's one

625
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: thing I learned back and my master's work where I thought,

626
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I'm gonna learn how to motivate people.

627
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: And it's no. You provide incentives and you figure out

628
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: what you know that person us strengths are, and then

629
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: you help guide them as you're saying, and you have

630
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: those people which is amazing. Um, we can't leave without

631
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: doing a couple of things because I've learned people can argue, uh,

632
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: talk about cards, talk about what you eat. I love

633
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: you know. Uh In researching you carbs are our friend

634
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: to tell people why, oh my god. So I will

635
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: just share, you know, as a my background as a

636
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: nutrition I have my degree in baptis of nutrition, so

637
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Speaker 1: I come. I come to nutrition with a very shrewd eye.

638
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Speaker 1: When you know, we look at news and updates and things,

639
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: and I'll just share, Like you know, I left the

640
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: nutrition profession profession as a profession because the month I graduated,

641
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: they came out and announced that dietary stodium no longer

642
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: had an impact on hypotension high blood pressure. Right, You're like,

643
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: wait a minute. That was one of the golden tenants

644
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: that we've learned for decades and now you just basically

645
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: turned it up. I said, I can't do this. So

646
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: now I need to look at all this information. I

647
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: get to look at it through my filter of having

648
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: that background. But I also continue my education and I

649
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: continue to learn, and it's not formal, Like you know,

650
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: you've done a lot of continuing, formal ed formal continuing

651
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: ed for yourself. I just have chosen to look at

652
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: other sources and good sources by the way, um to

653
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: kind of filter information through. But everything comes back to

654
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: the same thing. So you know, I did the keyto thing,

655
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: tried it, and it wasn't that great. It didn't didn't work.

656
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: It helped me lose some weight short term. But guess

657
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: what happens as soon as I changed my diet back

658
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: to eating regular we'll call it balanced meal, A gain

659
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: the weight back or a good portion of it. Right,

660
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: So I for for my energy for doing what I do, specifically,

661
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: it's got to be high carb. And when I stay

662
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: high carb, I'm talking like my macros or carbs and

663
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: fat protein that for the number of calories I need

664
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: for my body weight. That we're a kind of ratio

665
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of. It's a balanced and it works well for me.

666
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: And there are times though that I don't need the

667
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: carbs when I'm not doing those really really hard efforts.

668
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: So I kind of also time my carbs as well,

669
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Like if I don't have a really hard workout that

670
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: day and it's something where it's zone two and zone

671
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: one and I'm just gonna go burn some you know,

672
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: spending my lege and burn some fat. That's okay. I

673
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: can do that, and I don't have to worry about

674
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: feeling up for that workout. But I'll tell you what

675
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: time you try and go do these intervals from no carbs.

676
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: You ought to see how unproductive the workout is. Well,

677
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: you and I can can go here. We can go

678
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: back to when we were doing natural body building. And

679
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: I was a trainer at the time, like just starting

680
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: out and was working like seventeen hour days. And in

681
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: that final phase where you and I cut our carbs,

682
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of two weeks one week out

683
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: depending on you know, the way you were cycling it.

684
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: It was brutal to try to work because our bodies

685
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: and our brains run on you know, carbs, and so

686
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: you know that extreme taught me and you about that,

687
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, and that's not even exercise, that's not fueling

688
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: our bodies. And I love that. That's what you just

689
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: kept saying. It's the F word. It's called fuel. We

690
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: need it, and we need quality fuel. So yeah, you know,

691
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: all diets work, as you said, most people are going

692
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: to try something short term, but the goal is to

693
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: find what you can do for a lifetime. Exactly, and

694
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, to really hit home on this, I don't

695
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: like eat perfect all the time. I mean, I'll just

696
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: share with with the audience. I have a food addiction,

697
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: and you know I can easily I was, you know,

698
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: before I got into body building, I was three pounds

699
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: like fat, like forty two inch waste, like you know,

700
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: got into the seventy hour work week, got out of shape,

701
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: and then I did the keyto thing to help, you know,

702
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: cut cards because I didn't need to feel I wasn't

703
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: working out like that, and I was able to bring

704
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: my weight back down. But you know, I still struggle

705
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: with that a little bit, and and it's okay. Like

706
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: so now I'm in my off season and guess what happened.

707
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: I gained twelve pounds, right so for that's five percent

708
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: of my body we roughly you know, doing the math

709
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now, And that's okay because guess what.

710
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: Guess what, I know what I need to do when

711
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: I turned the switchback on, you know, starting in a

712
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: few weeks, where I'm going to start bringing my nutrition

713
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: back to the forefront because it is such an important

714
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: component that it's everything, everything is in the kitchen that

715
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: I will now start tracking my carbs, tracking my macros,

716
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: tracking uh total nutrition, accounting for the work on the bike,

717
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: timing my carbs before my workouts so I get them

718
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: at the right time, more of them. Yeah, that's basically

719
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: how I approach it. But right now, if you you

720
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: came over my house, you look at my fridge, you

721
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: know it's it's healthy food. But I'm not hopping on

722
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: my app and figuring out what did I just put

723
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: my mouth today? Because it's my mental break from it, right,

724
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: But I'll get back there, no problems. I love that

725
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: you went there, I mean, so a hundred pounds and

726
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: kept it off. That's incredible. You know your background, your

727
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: story is enough with the surgeries and things like that,

728
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: and that's I hope snates with people. It's like, oh

729
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: my gosh, you know the number one thing so many

730
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: people struggle with is that weight loss. And as you said,

731
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: like you know, we all have different relationships with food,

732
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: but there is no perfect you said it, and you know,

733
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: back to social media, that's not what we see and

734
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: there are far too many UH fitness people with questionable

735
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: if that backgrounds and education and then they're posting Carl

736
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: my most what I'm spending the most time doing now

737
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: is fitness expert in lawsuits. And it's it's a great

738
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: thing and it's a sad thing. You know, bad trainers

739
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: and things like that. So people need to hear that.

740
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: They need to hear that someone like you struggles, uh

741
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: and and got through it and later in life you

742
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: still struggle, but you struggled differently. And what you realize

743
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and and you and I both know this from everything

744
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: we've done, is when you have that meal where you listen,

745
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning like two am, went downstairs

746
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: and I often do, and had two huge like cookies, huge,

747
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: like crazy, because I under I didn't feed myself enough.

748
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: But that's okay. And so when we have that one

749
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, I went had this fast food fiesta,

750
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: the whole day is not thrown away. That's the difference, right,

751
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: that we learn over time, right, it will heires it

752
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: because at all so it's math, right, it all adds up.

753
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Because you screwed up one meal doesn't mean you to

754
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: script the rest of the rest of the day or

755
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: the weekend, the whole weekend. People you know a number

756
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: of people I remember from you know, back in the name.

757
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: When I was working with people professionally and this, people

758
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: just instantly give up and they're like, oh, I just

759
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I messed up my diet. I'm off Like no, Like

760
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: it's it's small incremental progress. It's okay, you messed up. Okay,

761
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: guess what. We're all human, we're not perfect. That's okay.

762
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: But you got back on it, right, or you can

763
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: get back on it, So just get back to it.

764
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: And it's only one meal then instead of all weekend.

765
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: It's it's people don't want to hear that. I'm getting

766
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: ready to do another show on you know, The Biggest Loser.

767
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: And they had that study that came out that basically

768
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: said you couldn't do it. And now there's new research

769
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: that says they were kind of wrong. That it is

770
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: math and it's about hunger hormones and things like that.

771
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: But I, you know, you saying that is one of

772
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: the main reasons too, that it hopefully is so powerful

773
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: to people because you and I both learned that we

774
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: made those mistakes. And it's not even that that meal

775
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: is a mistake per se, right for you and I,

776
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: it's that, hey, either we kind of wanted it, you know,

777
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: after a race. I will eat garbage and then I'll

778
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: feel like garbage and I'll learn and that right, the

779
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: healthier we get, the less we want the garbage. But

780
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: we still have it. And to your point, we know

781
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: that in our head we keep kind of a running total.

782
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: We go, Okay, I'm gonna maybe go for a longer

783
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: walk and maybe throwing a workout, not to undo it,

784
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: but to just start to get back into balance. That's

785
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: so important and that's the thing. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't

786
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: agree more. Um, where do I want to go? As

787
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: we you take people will love this and just go

788
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: through it. It's rare that I do this, but because

789
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: you are, like, you're successful, right, so you talk about

790
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: like your nutrition approach, your results speak for themselves. And yes,

791
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: you have the same philosophy as I do, because you

792
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: know it depends. We're all experiments of one. But um,

793
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: I know there's certain people, including my producer who's a

794
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: huge cycling guy, tell people just go through quickly. You

795
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: don't want to go deep into them. But you supplement

796
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: and what do you use? Yeah, exactly. I think our

797
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: food supply is unfortunately not where it was in the

798
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: past when you and I were young and just the

799
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: mass mass produced food. I think there's a lot of

800
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: micronutrients that are missing, so I make sure that I

801
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: hit those points, right, Uh, multi vitamin, just like you'd say,

802
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: like a multi vitamin. I do cocute ten and I

803
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: take that for general hearthouse and believe it or not,

804
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: it's also good for a mitochondrial energy production. Right, So

805
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: that's a little age I look for cocute ten um

806
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: you've heard people take for endurance beat root powder, right,

807
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: So the n O production UM, magnesiums. Magnesiums on my

808
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: list avoid cramping and improved sleep. So it's you know,

809
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: I use it both day and night, right, my mediums.

810
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: I think one of the one of the best electrolyted

811
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: products out there UM for avoiding cramping, by the way,

812
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: So just put that on everybody's radar. Vitamin C again,

813
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: antioccident properties, Energy production twelve, the same thing again. Now

814
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna think I'm some supplement junkie, but

815
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of. I do take a lot

816
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: of stuff because I think it's important that and I

817
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: think our food supply is short of it, particularly particularly

818
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: tom when I'm you know, I'm using products like nutrition

819
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: bars or shakes that also you know, are loaded with

820
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: some of the stuff, but I think it's not complete

821
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: whole foods sometimes and that's the convenience part that I

822
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: use in my nutrition where I think supplementing back in

823
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: is important. Um, and I'll just continue. Literally it's a

824
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: pretty long list. Vitamin B D three, right, you think

825
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: I'd get enough sun out here, but necessarily that's not

826
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: the case because I've had mine tested even living out

827
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: here and it was low. So I think that's important

828
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: for hormonal balance, you know, sweep quality, that sort of

829
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: thing along that same line. Zinc, you know, nighttime recovery.

830
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Who's your immune system? A lot of people learn about

831
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: zinc and those you know, other supplements during COVID right, Um, yeah,

832
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: uh so and then and then more for the sports stuff.

833
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: It's definitely a creating which I know you you've talked

834
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: about in the past. Um, Beta alleni believe it or not.

835
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: So Beta allenen is a very specific and I would

836
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: say endurance, but it does improve your endurance in the

837
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: one to five minute power band and there's there's research

838
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: out there to support that. There's plenty of research and

839
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: I am the research also support that because I would

840
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: do efforts without taking it, and you don't. It's it's

841
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: something you don't stay on your round. And I would

842
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: take it, and then I would take it before, you know,

843
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: to build it up in my system, you know, ten, ten,

844
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: twelve weeks out and by the time I get to

845
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: my a RaaS my my my power numbers you literally

846
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: it just shows up. It's there. So that's a pretty

847
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: powerful one, the beta alleny um. And then I take

848
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: CBD as well. That's probably one of the biggest ones

849
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: that I take. Yeah, and you hit on a couple

850
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: of uplements. I have a laundry list of shows I'm

851
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: waiting to do, and you hit on a couple of

852
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: supplements that as you said, there there's research behind it,

853
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: so you know it's not gonna be something that makes

854
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: you caral and you know, hitting those those times, just

855
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: taking that but in conjunction with everything and and try

856
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: and eat healthy and then filling in the gaps. As

857
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: Carl is saying, like that's important. And let me just

858
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: say to like I found and I'm sure you find

859
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: this two Carl. When when you're training for something, there's

860
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: that psychological effect, the placebo. It's not even really placebo.

861
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: But when you're training hard for something, taking all these

862
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: things as well, it's just part of the whole process,

863
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: it focuses you more. It's it's just it motivates you more.

864
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure you find that right when you're like, Okay,

865
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm training for this event, I'm taking all these things.

866
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I see it with my son's right as their training

867
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: for certain things, I will give them certain supplements and

868
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: and it motivates him just to go down and work

869
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: out whether or not right he knows or cares or

870
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: you know. So there's a huge thing to that. What

871
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: I love is your CBD you are that's now a

872
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: side hustle or it is your you know, one of

873
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: your things you do now, um so talk about that.

874
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: And in full disclosure, Carl is now advertising on this

875
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: with the CBD. But I only bring on, would only

876
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: bring on something that I totally believe in and that

877
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Carl has proven, you know, he is the real deal.

878
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking back call when I was doing my

879
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: first fitness videos. You know, it's a crowded space. But

880
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: you're a guy who how old are you officially? Now?

881
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: What's the birthday? I'll be you haven't I gotta change

882
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: the title of the show almost fifty you know almost.

883
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. Yeah, if you had set that record

884
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: and crossed over, all right, well we're gonna have to

885
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: bring you back again, you know after that as well.

886
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: But you know, you said, hey, this is something I use,

887
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: and then you went off and and created your own products.

888
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: So talk about that. It kind of ties in with

889
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: some of the surgeries and all that joint pain. That's

890
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: kind of where we started. It actually started with Bonnie Uh.

891
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: He's really the main impetus behind it. She went out

892
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: there and found a resource for CVD after hearing about

893
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: it from a friend, and she found a company called

894
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: Schroldd's web It's It's They were like one of the

895
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: first online places you could buy it. And so she

896
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: gets it and like it would come in this like

897
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: ground wrap package and it would take weeks to get

898
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: because they couldn't ship it out or it. It was

899
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: just a whole weird space at the time. Like so

900
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: this is back seventeen time frame. So she ends up

901
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: taking it and her hand basycically gets better and like

902
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, a week and then her back, which she

903
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: had some disc issues. She ends up having a lot

904
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: less pain and can sleep better after a month. So

905
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't like this instant lyracle pill. But for some

906
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: pretty serious you know pain and arthritic, you know, inflammation things,

907
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: it kind of helped pretty quickly. So I ended up

908
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: getting into it um more towards UM when I had

909
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: some some mental health things going on that related to

910
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: both work and sport. Um I ended up taking it

911
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: for sleep, which it helps with massively, and and also

912
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 1: anxiety or not. It really takes you down quite antch

913
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: and so you know, for me, it was about we

914
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: found this, We found that it worked for Bonnie, but

915
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: then we wanted a source that I knew that was

916
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: actually going to be super pure. It was gonna zero

917
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: point zero s INDHC. Because I'm an athlete and I

918
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: do get tested by by the SADA, right, so I

919
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: don't want to take anything and th HC s and

920
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: so I don't want to take a you know, I'm

921
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of HC, but you know, it's

922
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: fine whatever's don't even get into that. But I wouldn't

923
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: be getting on the bike, yea exactly, So I just don't.

924
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't get him to get into that port so

925
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: I just wanted it to be all about the CBD,

926
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: and so that's what we did. It's all of the plant.

927
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: We found it. We found a farm up in Colorado,

928
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: so it's American grown and that does matter. You know,

929
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: USA growing product is a big difference between that probably

930
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: gas station CBD you're thinking about where you go in

931
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: you get it, it it doesn't work, it's it's it's crappy

932
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: stuff from you know, India, China or wherever. You know,

933
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: where everlse it's grown. So we have a really good

934
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: uh control over our our chain from you know, see

935
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: the shelf. And we said, listen, this is not about

936
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: making money for us. This is about finding a great

937
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: product that works for us. And we found the supplier

938
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: and this farm and we said this is this is it.

939
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: This is the product. And so we decided to put

940
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: our name behind it and get it out there for

941
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: general consumption. And it's not about like let's get this

942
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: and make it this the biggest TVD company in the world.

943
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, we want to focus this this towards athletes

944
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: and athletic recovery because that's that's important. I think it

945
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: has a massive, massive edge over things like using end

946
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: sets which I used to eat like checklists like all right,

947
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: so so now I get better sleep, I have you know,

948
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: less less um inflammation lower and it's a dual thing

949
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: for me, lower anxiety and I don't have to think

950
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: and says, which obviously you know, there's studies out there

951
00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: that show that end says, um inhibit your post extras eyes. Right,

952
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: So any of the work you're doing and said reduces

953
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: the inflammation, and it's been shown to interfere with that.

954
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: So your body's natural yeah, ability to make gains is

955
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: diminished by using insets. And I don't know how much

956
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: you knew about that, but there are no total I

957
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: love that you're bringing that up. And and it's a

958
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: show for another day to that and uh and cryotherapy

959
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: type stuff where you know, we we thought it was helping.

960
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: It helps in the short term, but has the same

961
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: type of potential negative you know, muscle building, And yeah,

962
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: you're diminishing, potentially mitigating your benefit, which you know I

963
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: take it so rarely if ever for that reason. Yeah,

964
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: that's you're lucky guy. I mean, you're lucky guy not

965
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: to need it all the time. But but you know,

966
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: for like me, I still and my surgery was very successful,

967
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: but I still have jointing you know in the in

968
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: in some of the some of the surgical joints and

969
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: in general, you know, just being over fifty uh, you know,

970
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: overdoing it. Imagine I might overdo it on the bike

971
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: training com Yeah, go figure, right, and so, and that's

972
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: where this stuff really comes into play potentially, Right, you

973
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: gotta do the work, you gotta recover, and then anything

974
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: you can bring into help that. You know, that's why

975
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: had you list all the supplements and stuff that's gonna

976
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: make it different. But you gotta do the work right.

977
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: There's so many people recovering that aren't doing the work right.

978
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: But you know, and you are obviously going at such

979
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: a high level. And that's why that's why I love

980
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: bringing someone like you on. You're very rare and you're

981
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: the extreme, and we learned from the extremes. So so

982
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: many people, Carl obviously gonna wisk to go, well, I'm

983
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: not getting on and doing time trial and I'm not

984
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: gonna go that hard. But we know that. But we

985
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: want you to live your best life and to find

986
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: things that help you do that. Absolutely absolutely, And and

987
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: I think another important takeaway for all the listeners is

988
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, as a master's athlete, I have to look

989
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: at it from a standpoint. I need every edge I

990
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: can get. As I get older, your body is just

991
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: gonna lose more and more and it doesn't have those

992
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: massive pieces right. And I'm not talking about oh, one

993
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: day I'm great, the next day I'm failing. No. But

994
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: but age is what it is, right And I've heard

995
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: your episodes on aging and metapitalism and things like that,

996
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that right now I'm losing a

997
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: lot to age, but I need every edge I can get.

998
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: So supplementation, making sure my recoveries on point, making sure

999
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: my nutritions on point, making sure my mental health is

1000
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: on point, by the way, very important, and and just stink,

1001
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, aware of everything I'm doing and everything I'm

1002
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: putting in my body, and I'm in control of that

1003
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: as much as as much as I physically can be

1004
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: and mentally can be. And it's such a great way

1005
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: to start wrapping it up. Yeah, because you know, if

1006
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: you've listened that that's usually how I end the show,

1007
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: because it's about control. And that's why taking supplements again,

1008
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: it's it's we're controlling something so just by popping something

1009
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: that we feel like we're doing something and and listen,

1010
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: that's where companies take advantage, right, Carl. There's a lot

1011
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: of bad products out there where they take advantage of.

1012
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: You know, I did a show I think you should

1013
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: probably eat your vegetables. You probably can't get them in

1014
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: pill form, right, But there's other things. As you're saying that, um,

1015
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, they are supplements for a reason. They supplement

1016
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: what we do. But by the way, once you hit

1017
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: fifty car, it's all over. Yeh. I know there's a

1018
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: precipitous it's yeah, yeah, So enjoy your last couple of months.

1019
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: I thought you were already there. But you know, I'm

1020
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: gonna know, I kid, and you know what, let's finish

1021
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: with this. I now at fifty two, because you and

1022
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: I have done this journey. I would argue, you know,

1023
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: you started off by talking about, yeah, we went heavy,

1024
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: but we learned right, and we're trying to teach and

1025
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: and so often I have people, you know, who want

1026
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: to argue with me about crazy workouts. I go, listen,

1027
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, I'll give you the science

1028
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you that like you're not gonna hurt

1029
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: yourself probably right away, but ten years from now, you know,

1030
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: you might regret that. But you and I learned over time,

1031
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: and I am when I first started this business, people

1032
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: just always say, Carl, wait till your thirty weight, TI

1033
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: your forty wait tier fifth. I'm now loving this age group,

1034
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: right because we we learned, we did a lot, and

1035
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: now we can have the best years. And so let's

1036
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: kind of end with that because you're thriving now. You

1037
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: know you were was a three twenty? Was that your peak? Yeah?

1038
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: My god, you blew me away because I knew you

1039
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: had lost weight. To everyone listening out there, that was

1040
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: that's news to me, and that's just it's surprising, but

1041
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: it's not right because it shows who you are today

1042
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: and why you are UM, and that's even more incredible. UM.

1043
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: But we learned over time, and you know, explain that

1044
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: to people. How you feel now at this age, Well,

1045
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, again, I have gone through all the ups

1046
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: and downs that you know, growing up has offered a

1047
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: lot of life experiences like most people have. And you know,

1048
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: here in the end, it's like, I'm glad that I'm

1049
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: paying attention two what I'm choosing to do with work

1050
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: and fitness and everything, and I'm able to make more intelligent, smart,

1051
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: educated decisions and and not do the dump things I

1052
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: was doing in my twenties. And third, it's it's the

1053
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: best Like you said, it's the best time. Now I

1054
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: have another extra six months to enjoy it more. Don't know,

1055
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. Then it's like your v O

1056
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: two max drops. I think it's like, uh, yeah, these

1057
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Speaker 1: and then you can learn more about the products. And

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Speaker 1: um again, it's it's something that I put my name behind.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like I've been we've been approached to

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Speaker 1: not about that. It's about a quality product and putting

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Speaker 1: there's a question about so yeah, and I just want

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Speaker 1: to people know that I've listened to my podcast. I

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Speaker 1: don't ever have on anything that I don't believe in

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Speaker 1: and people that it just doesn't happen. I'm so fortunate

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Speaker 1: at this point in my life that every topic, every

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Speaker 1: person is my choice, and you know you would be

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Speaker 1: on obviously absolutely regardless. But I want to always give

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Speaker 1: people those options and different things. And people find success

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Speaker 1: with so many different things. You're saying, like your wife Bonnie,

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Speaker 1: like you know, if everyone had the same success with things,

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00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: then it would be easy, right then we'd all have

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Speaker 1: the solutions. All you gotta do are these exercises and

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Speaker 1: take these things. So that's the experimentation we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And when you have someone who has found not only success,

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Speaker 1: but like crazy great success that you just heard all

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Speaker 1: that from Carl, from the weight loss to the injuries

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Speaker 1: to now like thriving at at a brutal by the way,

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Speaker 1: I still like I have problems, Carl, Yours are totally different.

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Speaker 1: And you know, us and durance athletes look at you

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Speaker 1: and go, you're nuts, like like that's yeah, I'd rather do.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to maybe next year do my first post.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've done fifty mile run, maybe I'm doing

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Speaker 1: a hundred k. That's still to me is so much

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00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: more fun than your sixty seconds. I'd rather run sixtys.

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Speaker 1: Then what's your heart rate? Let's look and what's your

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Speaker 1: peak power? Just the throat for those nerves who so,

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Speaker 1: So my heart rate will when I get to those

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Speaker 1: max efforts, Uh, you'll be in the one eighties at

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Speaker 1: age fifth year, so um, mid one eighties. Um. I've

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Speaker 1: seen it pop higher occasionally, but you know it's um

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Speaker 1: my peak wattage. I would say, like, my peak wattage

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Speaker 1: isn't that high? Believing or not. It's like in the grange,

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Speaker 1: it's like a guy like what I do? You know? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's obscene. But but it's like the

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Speaker 1: sustained wattage is kind of where it's cool. It's like

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Speaker 1: that's like, all right, that's kind of like my thing.

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Speaker 1: I can hold it longer and throw that out. What

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Speaker 1: is that? Yeah? So that one minute effort, you know,

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Speaker 1: I I set a pr when I set the Kila record,

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Speaker 1: which is actually perfect time, and you can't after that

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Speaker 1: anything better than athletes. I ended up doing seven wats

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Speaker 1: for a minute. So this isn't apples to apples, but

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Speaker 1: for those of you who have the stationary bikes at

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Speaker 1: home and it's giving you certain metrics, and you know

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Speaker 1: there's one specific brand that does and again it's not perfect,

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Speaker 1: but it's close. Uh he's doing how many what was it? Seven? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My gosh, like insane, insane, that's amazing. All right, I've

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Speaker 1: taken up way too much of your time. I want

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Speaker 1: to have you back after your you know, you hit

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Speaker 1: fifty and you know, set the next record. What's the goal?

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Speaker 1: What's the throw me out? The goals for the next year? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so this coming next year two, the goals are even

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Speaker 1: bigger than what I have now. I'm looking to break

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Speaker 1: the world record in the two K. So as I

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Speaker 1: age up, they make us go shorter distance, so two

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Speaker 1: kilometer time trial, so it'll be a two minute and

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Speaker 1: call it. I need to be under two minute and

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Speaker 1: eleven seconds change. That's the current world record, so I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping to break to ten. That's my goal. And then

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Speaker 1: also to race against the guy who's currently racing and

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Speaker 1: set the world record. He's still in my age group,

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Speaker 1: a group probably moving into to beat him and everybody

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Speaker 1: else and win a world championship at the two k

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Speaker 1: time trap. So those those are my two big goals.

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Speaker 1: I love it and I'm sure that if anyone can

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Speaker 1: do it, you can. That you so much, Carl for takeing.

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Speaker 1: It's so great to catch up and just so amazed

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Speaker 1: by your accomplishments. And and it didn't even realize the

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Speaker 1: weight loss thing, and I love that that was in

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Speaker 1: a side right. It's an important thing. It's a huge

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Speaker 1: part of I'm sure everything, but you know we are

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Speaker 1: so much more than that. And when you put it

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Speaker 1: on the back burner and focus on everything we talked about,

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Speaker 1: that's when it gets easier. Right, So continued success. Look

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Speaker 1: forward to checking back in with you and uh, happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. Speak soon Carl, and we will be right

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Speaker 1: back after this short break and we are back. What

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Speaker 1: do you thank Carl one more time? You know, I

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Speaker 1: always tell guests that it's going to be thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: and it rarely is because the guests I bring on

1148
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: there's so much to talk about. And I hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed that, because oh my gosh, catching up with Carl

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Speaker 1: uh and and I knew again that he had lost weight.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to harp on this, but it's obviously

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Speaker 1: what so many of you listen to the show for

1153
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: and are struggling with and to find out that he

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Speaker 1: had not only lost weight, but lost a significant amount

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Speaker 1: and has kept it off. And it's all connected people,

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Speaker 1: you know. He he talked about struggling with the psychological side,

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Speaker 1: as we all do. And that's why I keep hammering

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Speaker 1: home that this is all connected. That we exercise for

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Speaker 1: our sanity and it helps with you know, younger hormones

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Speaker 1: and feeling good about ourselves. But huge takeaway from Carl's

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Speaker 1: show is once again, don't think you're too old, don't

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Speaker 1: think you're injuries. You know, we could have talked about

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Speaker 1: his injuries for a half hour to think that he

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Speaker 1: had his hip done and his need done. And it's

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Speaker 1: not that he's just now riding a bike. He is

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Speaker 1: torturing himself at fred watt peak power and seven plus

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Speaker 1: maintaining that for for sixty seconds and more. You know,

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Speaker 1: it sounds so cliche to say the sky is the limit,

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Speaker 1: but it is. You have to be open to that.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I get so upset when I read

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Speaker 1: articles that say you can't accomplish something, that you're limited

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Speaker 1: by your genetics or something else. You're limited by your beliefs.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that say that, but haven't

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Speaker 1: accomplished much, if anything, other than telling people that line.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I bring people like Carl on because

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Speaker 1: he's done it, and he's continuing to do it, and

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Speaker 1: he's thriving, and he's yet another example that it can

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Speaker 1: be done so much more than you think, and so

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Speaker 1: you have to be open to it. You have to

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Speaker 1: give it time, you have to start to apply all

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01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: of the little things that aren't so little that you

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Speaker 1: hear on the show. I would argue that Carl is

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Speaker 1: in the best place that he's been in in his

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Speaker 1: life at forty and it's only going to get better

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Speaker 1: because of that self efficacy, because of the learning, the

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: failures that aren't really failures. So cool, so cool, And

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Speaker 1: the final takeaway that we started the whole show talking

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Speaker 1: about is that you've got to find your thing. But

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Speaker 1: Carl is a big dude, right the fact he's biking

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Speaker 1: as fast as he is. Sure they're short events, and

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Speaker 1: you know, his body type lends itself to that to

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Speaker 1: some degree, but he's got to, you know, get down

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Speaker 1: to a certain weight as well. But he was doing

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Speaker 1: the bodybuilding teaching, doing many different things until he found

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Speaker 1: that one thing that he's physiologically meant to do, psychologically

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Speaker 1: meant to do. I love the back and forth about

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Speaker 1: how nuts I think that is for a minute, three minutes,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather go for three hours, ten hours. But we're different.

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Speaker 1: You're different, and so don't beat yourself up because your

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Speaker 1: journey with exercise and eating healthy isn't what your friends is.

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Speaker 1: Too many choices, but we give you the science. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna find your healthy carbs, your healthy protein, your healthy fats,

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Speaker 1: your form of cardio that raises your heart rate, your

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Speaker 1: form of strength training, and finally you're gonna believe that

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Speaker 1: those issues you have can be fixed. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening again. If you want to reach out, Tom h Fit, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: tom h Fit is Twitter, Fitness disrupted dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can email me through the site. Love to hear from you, questions, comments,

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Speaker 1: follow the show, rate the show, comment if you can,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening. My most recent book is The

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Speaker 1: Carl spoke about this and not so many words. But

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Speaker 1: we all control free things. How much. We move what

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Speaker 1: we put into our mouse and our state of mind,

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Speaker 1: our attitude, and that is awesome. I'm Tom Holland. This

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