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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. Feel caught over the medal. Michael Pittman Junior.

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Speaker 2: In the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the podcast started.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone to the Official Cold podcast. We're back.

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Speaker 5: We're back with JJ stag Piction.

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Speaker 4: Lara Overton is here and I'm smelling football right around

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Speaker 4: the corner. Days away from brad Park, the Colts training

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Speaker 4: camp will start. I just got to get the fire

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Speaker 4: up level out of YouTube because last week, the week before,

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Speaker 4: we had you know, the holidays, and we're getting ready

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Speaker 4: and solf, and after that swing happened, we went, oh

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Speaker 4: we're eight days away. Oh we're you know, nine days away.

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Speaker 4: Everything changes right now because our focus changes, obviously the

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Speaker 4: players change, but guys fire it up or not because

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Speaker 4: this thing is coming right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: I always get excited for like this week, just to

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Speaker 2: like the energy that there is that first day that

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Speaker 2: you doing on summer break, and everyone was like, it's

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Speaker 2: not summer break, this is summer work. We know that

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Speaker 1: I'm excited just for something new to talk about like

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we've been sitting here on this couch

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Speaker 1: I know we had OTAs and all that, but this

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Do you think anybody comes in with an exciting entrance

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Speaker 4: But how about Bernard Ryman skydiving into Grand Park?

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Speaker 4: Tell us about the move. It's a successful podcast that

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Speaker 4: you did, the documentary on the Colts Move from Baltimore

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Speaker 4: to Indianapolis. All four episodes are out right now available

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Speaker 4: on the Colts Audio Network. Congratulations, a lot of success.

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Speaker 4: What's uh? What's been the field the last couple three

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Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of hard work and a

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Speaker 2: Defensive line guru who is in demand all across the

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Speaker 5: junior year or so. It was the winter time, right

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Speaker 5: after they finished season. He was with me an all spring,

435
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Speaker 5: all summer, and then, Yeah, we just stayed in touch

436
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 5: throughout the process.

437
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Speaker 2: Obviously he was navigating through all of his injury issues

438
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 2: and all of that during that period of time. One

439
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 2: of the things that we learned from him when he

440
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Speaker 2: came into the building and you know, immediately got to work,

441
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Speaker 2: We've seen how hungry and how eager he is. I

442
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 2: know that you have witnessed that firsthand. He talked about

443
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: that early on. A lot of his training would be

444
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Speaker 2: done by observing YouTube videos and trying to replicate what

445
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: he learned, you know, being such a student of the game,

446
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 2: and how eager he has been to refine a lot

447
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 2: of what he's able to do. When you first saw him,

448
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: how raw was how raw was he? And maybe how

449
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: high of a ceiling did you see when, oh man,

450
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 2: if we can get some fine tuning on this guy

451
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 2: and his skill set and his pass rush, what the

452
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Speaker 2: possibilities might be for a guy of this caliber.

453
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Speaker 5: Very raw, very raw, but also a very visual you know,

454
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Speaker 5: he learns through his visual and so he would see

455
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 5: other guys take reps and pass rush and he would

456
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Speaker 5: see kind of them take a step here, or move

457
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 5: their shoulders or hands in a direction, bend to a corner,

458
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 5: and he would just try to emulate that. And he's

459
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Speaker 5: a very quick learner. Something I noticed about him early

460
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Speaker 5: on in the process of training him was he's able

461
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Speaker 5: to grow and get better within the reps that he's

462
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Speaker 5: taking at that current session, and not a lot of

463
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Speaker 5: guys are able to do that. It usually maybe takes

464
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Speaker 5: like two maybe three sessions, so he's he's a step

465
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Speaker 5: ahead almost every time he takes a training session. I

466
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Speaker 5: think that's why his development happens so fast for him.

467
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Speaker 5: He's such a he's so key on visual learning. But

468
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Speaker 5: you can tell when he when he's watching tape of himself,

469
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Speaker 5: he'll watch himself and be you know, I didn't like that.

470
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Speaker 5: He'll take it back out to the field and correct it.

471
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Speaker 5: So I think, you know, like I said, very raw,

472
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Speaker 5: but just quickly learning. And then he became obsessed with

473
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Speaker 5: the techniques. And once he started getting obsessed with the techniques,

474
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 5: he just started to put it to play. And we

475
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Speaker 5: saw his senior year at UCLA, he was really able

476
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Speaker 5: to get after the quarterback.

477
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Speaker 2: Plenty of other cults. So you've worked with this well,

478
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Speaker 2: and we'll get into a few of those in just

479
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Speaker 2: a minute. But one thing with your perspective and the

480
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Speaker 2: time that you have had in working with Leo too

481
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: through his college career and then in particular preparation for

482
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Speaker 2: the draft, that you know the combine process the pro

483
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: days how differently maybe have you specialized things from the

484
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Speaker 2: spring when he was getting ready for that period the

485
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Speaker 2: pre draft process to now knowing the system he's going

486
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Speaker 2: to be in, knowing the guys who is going to

487
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Speaker 2: be lining up alongside with this Colts front.

488
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Speaker 5: So I've been doing pre draft process like I like

489
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Speaker 5: to call it that, like since twenty eighteen was my

490
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 5: first class, and you realize that there's not that much

491
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 5: football happening in that process. It's more like don't break

492
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Speaker 5: the ferraris, you know, make sure they're just fast, ready

493
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Speaker 5: to go. But with guys like lats of who want

494
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Speaker 5: to get better and want to keep going and go,

495
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 5: kind of got to pull them back sometimes a little

496
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Speaker 5: bit because they want to train so much. You know,

497
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 5: he's able to get a lot through the process, but

498
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Speaker 5: the shift from training for a combine or training for

499
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Speaker 5: a pro dain are getting ready for interviews into hey,

500
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 5: let's go get ready for football. For him, he's just hungry.

501
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 5: Like I said, he's obsessed with that, so he can't

502
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Speaker 5: wait for that process. The other day he had said

503
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Speaker 5: to me, you know, he was just smiling on the

504
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 5: field and he was I was like, what's up. Why

505
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 5: are you smiling so hard? He was like, because this

506
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 5: stuff is getting really real, Like I can't wait to

507
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 5: get back out there and just play football again. Like

508
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 5: he's he's really obsessed with the game, and you can

509
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 5: see it within his actions every single day, the way

510
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: he approaches his day to day. But it's pretty awesome

511
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 5: to see it.

512
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Speaker 2: One of the guys that you've worked with, Quity pay

513
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Speaker 2: and I knew that Quitty had shared some time in

514
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Speaker 2: the spring with Laya two, and I traded some texts

515
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Speaker 2: with him the night that layaut To was drafted about

516
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: Quitty's excitement to be sharing a room, you know, with

517
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Speaker 2: Layau two among the other incredible guys who are in

518
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Speaker 2: that room as well, and just paraphrasing a couple of

519
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: things he said, is immediate implac impact is immediately going

520
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: to make a difference. We're becoming the best defensive line

521
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. What stands out to you about the

522
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: time that you have spent with Quitty and what would

523
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Speaker 2: you say maybe about now you know from the guys

524
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: who you've spent time with as well, how strong this

525
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: group is becoming thanks to the investment that's being made

526
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Speaker 2: in the front.

527
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Speaker 5: Well, Quitty actually has probably had the best off season

528
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Speaker 5: with any of my veterans I've ever had throughout this

529
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Speaker 5: process and in my since twenty eighteen, since I've been

530
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Speaker 5: doing this, it's not even close. He's completely changed his

531
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: mentality and I think that really came first, so he's

532
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 5: more locked in than ever. He's very he's very hyper

533
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 5: focused on his body. He's in tune with what he

534
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 5: needs to do to get his body right. He's healthy.

535
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 5: It was really his first full healthy offseason with me

536
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 5: since his rookie year, and he's improved every year. I

537
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 5: think the mentality side of it, though, really shifted. Like

538
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 5: I know, he texted me and was like, man, I

539
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 5: just feel I feel different mentally, and it's looked incredible.

540
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Speaker 5: Everybody that's been around him throughout this process, whether it's

541
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Speaker 5: his strength trainers or body you know, body peep, his

542
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 5: yoga instructors, his plates instructors. They've all said the same thing.

543
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 5: Even his business manager, who I'm close with. Everybody is

544
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 5: really really high on the off season Quiddy Pays had

545
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Speaker 5: and I think a lot of it had to do with,

546
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Speaker 5: you know, the Colts drafting somebody like Layout two, and

547
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: now he gets to spend time around the guy like

548
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 5: Latu and gets to see, man, this guy's love for

549
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 5: the game and joy for the game has really inspired

550
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 5: me to be a better player and to take this

551
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 5: a little bit, maybe more seriously or just locked in

552
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 5: on a different level. And he looks incredible. I am

553
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 5: extremely high on the Quidty pay train right now. I

554
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 5: am very excited for him.

555
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: We love hearing that, especially when it's a group that

556
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: set the single season franchise sack record last year. Most

557
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: of those guys are back. That group is now reinforced

558
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: with Layout two, Lasu, a number of the other guys

559
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Speaker 2: that you've met that you have worked with, Samson, Ebacom,

560
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: dioa Dangbo, at A Tamawa at a bar A, all

561
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Speaker 2: of those current Colts who are you know coming back

562
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: and they're gonna report here to training camp next week.

563
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: Immediately getting to work, I was reading an article in

564
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: which it's like two and a half seconds essentially that

565
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: pass rushers get to get to a quarterback before the

566
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: ball is released. When you have such a limited amount

567
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: of time. How specialized is the training to refine every

568
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: single millisecond of that process and making sure that you

569
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: are as efficient and effective as possible in doing that.

570
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Speaker 5: I think it's it's extremely specific, But also you don't

571
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 5: want to over technolize, if that's a word. These these

572
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 5: these athletes, like they're so good at what they do,

573
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: and they're they're so big and fast and strong. You

574
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 5: just want to make sure you sharpen their tools and

575
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 5: make sure that they're they're doing. It's almost a repetitive grind,

576
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 5: and I sometimes have to check myself and be like, man, Okay,

577
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 5: we're doing the same thing again and again and again,

578
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 5: just making sure I don't get, you know, content with

579
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 5: what we're doing and making sure what we're pushing them.

580
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 5: But these guys are bought in and they're locked into

581
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: what they have to do to get to the quarterback.

582
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 5: And I think the biggest, the biggest their biggest tool

583
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 5: always be their confidence, and I think that's something that

584
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 5: I always try to leave them with before they leave California, is, Hey,

585
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 5: make sure you're confident in what you're doing because it's

586
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 5: been working for you throughout this program. Let's make sure

587
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 5: we take that into training camp and throw your move

588
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 5: and and uh, you know, take risks and do things

589
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: that you were doing out here and make sure it's translating.

590
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

591
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: Those guys also getting to train together is uh, is awesome.

592
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 5: I think that's just a very underrated part of their chemistry.

593
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 5: I saw it last year between Quitty and Dial, you know,

594
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: both of them having their best years. They were locked

595
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: in all spring with me. They were here for you know,

596
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 5: I think it was like three straight months just going,

597
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: you know, four or five days a week of training

598
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: and spending time together off the field. So adding adding

599
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 5: somebody like Law two into that mix that you mentioned,

600
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 5: those guys already have a chemistry. They already understand each other,

601
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 5: and I think that's a huge part of pass rush

602
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 5: because if you understand how the guy next to you

603
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: wants to get to the quarterback, it's only going to

604
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 5: help you work off of his rushes and vice versa,

605
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: and this is.

606
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: A franchise that has long appreciated the art of the

607
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: pass rush. With Dwight Freeney, who's going to go into

608
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame of course next month. Robert mathis

609
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: a number of the guys who we can spotlight. And

610
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: one of the things that I've heard from defensive coordinator

611
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: Gus Bradley is in terms of scheming your defense and

612
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: you know, attacking the passer and different things, is you're

613
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: always kind of trying to stay one step ahead and

614
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: anticipate how offenses are evolving. How have we really seen

615
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: maybe even more refinement and more of a priority on

616
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: maybe the art of the pass rush and what different

617
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: guys are doing, Because it really does seem that there

618
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: has been a greater priority and you know, maybe a

619
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: greater appreciation across the league for what these pass rushers

620
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: are able to do and how they can completely change

621
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: the game plan for an offense.

622
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Speaker 5: It just makes it easy, you know, like if you

623
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: don't have to blitz and you've got four guys, if

624
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: you've got four guys up there that can just go,

625
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: it makes it easy. I know Gus loves doing that,

626
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: so you know it fits well when you have four

627
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: guys or five guys in your rotation that can just

628
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 5: pin their ears back and go. But as far as

629
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: I think, I think every year i've seen this, there's

630
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 5: more and more guys really investing their time in the

631
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 5: offseason to become true you know, artists of pass rush,

632
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of good trainers out there. You know,

633
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: I'm one of many, and I and I see it

634
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: all the time. I see new guys going out there

635
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: adding tools to their bag, coming out getting having huge

636
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: breakout seasons year after year. And it feels like almost

637
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: every single team across the league now has three to

638
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 5: four rushers that can just get after the quarterback. And

639
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: it's it's becoming a beautiful thing in my eyes.

640
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: You mentioned your one of many specialized pass rush coaches

641
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: across the country, and you said, what twenty eighteen was

642
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: your first year, your first off season? I mean, this

643
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: has been such quick I mean following that you have amassed.

644
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: I know you've got guys dming you on Instagram all

645
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: across the country wanting to work with you. How have

646
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: you built this program in such a following and seemingly

647
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: such a quick period of time.

648
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: You know, I think the majority of it comes from

649
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: the success from the players, you know, and I never

650
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: forget that. At the end of the day, it's about

651
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: the guys, and it's about their success equaling my success

652
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: and we get to eat together. But I think I

653
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: just work well with certain guys and guys enjoy my

654
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: style of coaching. I'm not necessarily too hard. It's not

655
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: my way. I feel like there's, you know, a million

656
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 5: different ways to skin the cat when it comes to

657
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 5: pass rushing. Everybody has what they do and how they

658
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 5: get there in different ways, and I think that's the

659
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: true art and the true beauty of it. You know.

660
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: I was out at UCLA with a lot too, and

661
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 5: Khalil Mack, who's one of my players too on the

662
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: Chargers obviously, you know, speaks for himself there. He's a

663
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer one day, but even him, you know,

664
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: he sits there and he talks to law too, and

665
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: he's telling them, hey, like, you know, if that's the

666
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: way you get there, I've never done it like that before,

667
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: but it works for you, So do it your way.

668
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 5: You know. To see moments like that, it's like, you know,

669
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: that's pretty awesome in it. It it to me at

670
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: the end. Like I said, ultimately, if the players are

671
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 5: having success. That's my favorite part is when I get

672
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: a text from you know, Quity or a lot To

673
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 5: or a dio or whoever it is, and they text

674
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: me after the game they're like, oh, man, I was

675
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: on fire today. You know I had three sacks or whatever,

676
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 5: you know, four quarterback hits, and that's what hypes me up.

677
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: That's that's my favorite part of this process.

678
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought up Khalil Mack because I

679
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: saw on maybe Instagram or Twitter the clip shared of

680
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Khalil getting right up there working with Leya tu One.

681
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: What does it say about Layatu that you have a

682
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: guy like that, who is that, you know, the pinnacle

683
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: of that position, who's willing to spend that time hands

684
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: on working with Leayatsu and maybe what he sees as

685
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: Layoutsuo being one of the new era of pass rushers

686
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 2: you know in the NFL, alongside maybe a guy like

687
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack.

688
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's what it's all about, right, like

689
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: passing a so called passing of the torch right when

690
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: it comes to these type of guys like I personally

691
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: think the layout two is wonderful kind. I think when

692
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: it's all said and done, if he stays healthy through

693
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: this tough, you know, obviously an unforgiving game of football,

694
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 5: he's gonna have a chance to be in a guy

695
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: like Khalil mack shoes where maybe he's going for a

696
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 5: gold jacket one day. So for Khalil to just even

697
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: you know, someone someone that doesn't need to is grabbing

698
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 5: him during a session saying hey, here's a couple of

699
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: things that work for me. To me, that just shows

700
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: that Khalil sees something as well, you know, whether or

701
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: not he wants to say it that way, just the

702
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 5: action of him saying, hey, look, this is how I

703
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 5: do it to a young rookie like Law two shows

704
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: a lot. And I think, uh, that's I've said this before,

705
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 5: but that's my favorite part of what I do is

706
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 5: is mixing in these vets that have been doing this

707
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: for such a long time that can give you know,

708
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: such such a you know, free game in a sense

709
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: to these players that are just about to go start

710
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: their careers. It's so valuable to these guys even off

711
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: the field stuff. And I think, you know that's great too,

712
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 5: because these guys their lives are changing, especially first round picks.

713
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 5: You know, it's completely changing financially, and a lot of

714
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 5: my guys are in great financial situations to be able

715
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: to put their arm around him and say, hey, you know,

716
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 5: make sure you're doing this, make sure you're doing that,

717
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: you're not doing this. So it's a very well rounded

718
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: program in that sense.

719
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Speaker 2: I would imagine that there's nothing more, you know, satisfying

720
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: for you than being a mentor, a coach, a teacher

721
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: than to see someone that you've worked with embracing that

722
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: role as a mentor or a coach and finding, you know,

723
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: so much value in being able to do exactly that,

724
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: and especially with something you know, like the past rush,

725
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: when it is something that there is such great pride

726
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: in the practice, the technique of it all. There is

727
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: certainly no way to replicate the type of wisdom you're

728
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: gonna get from a guy who's been doing it at

729
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: such a high level for as long as someone like

730
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Speaker 2: Khalil Mack has For a rookie like leout two.

731
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, that's like I said, my favorite part is

732
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: just watching guys like that being and that's the brotherhood

733
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 5: of it because now they're all connected, especially in the

734
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 5: age of social media, Like, these guys all follow each other,

735
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 5: whether they train one time together or thirty times together,

736
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 5: and now they're all connected just because they all train,

737
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: you know, whether it's with me or with the same people.

738
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: So I love seeing that stuff. And they'll follow each

739
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: other throughout the year and you know, they'll I'll see

740
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: they'll comment on each other's videos and posts and hype

741
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 5: each other up. And it's great. It's it's a great brotherhood.

742
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: Is that one of the really cool aspects maybe of

743
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: being interconnected social media, all the different mediums that there

744
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: are in that no matter where you are, I'm sure

745
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: that you know you have young athletes who are able

746
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: to look up certain videos or look at maybe what

747
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: guys are doing, like a young layouts to a lot too,

748
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: was wanting to try to replicate those things and taking

749
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: such pride in using that practice and implementing it no

750
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: matter you know where you are, if you have access

751
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: to a training group or you don't, that you at

752
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: least have the ability to look up those types of

753
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: things and you know, utilize that within your own preparation.

754
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean I encourage everybody to go

755
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 5: out there and you know, watch other people. You know,

756
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 5: that's really what Latsu talks about in his development. He

757
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 5: watched guys like like he's obsessed with the way Max

758
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: Crosby rushes the quarterback. But who is it? You know

759
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: what I mean? And if you can pick a thing up,

760
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: you know, you might not necessarily be able to do

761
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 5: what those guys do all the time, but if you

762
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 5: can just pick up one little thing, it's only going

763
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: to benefit you. So I encourage all young defensive linemen

764
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: all the time. Hey watch just watch watch these guys

765
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: work in the eye season, watch how they train, watch

766
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: how they play on Sundays. Or if you're a high

767
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 5: school kid and you are watching a kid, a young

768
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: man like layout to in college, you know, watch how

769
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 5: he goes about his game, and it's only going to

770
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: help you. If you don't do that kind of stuff,

771
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: if you can't sit there and watch those guys and

772
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: appreciate it, the game might not be for you.

773
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: And where can everyone follow you on social media to

774
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: follow the work that you're doing.

775
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 5: On on Instagram it's d Line coach ed, d I

776
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: think d L coach ed. And then on what is

777
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 5: it twitter X? What do we call it these days?

778
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: X Twitter.

779
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: It's a d line coach, ed I try. I try

780
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: to stay a little active on there and post every

781
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 5: now and then some training videos of the guys.

782
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know we've done a couple of different

783
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: posts and things that we've shared from ours as well,

784
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: so it's all in our Colts timeline. Also, hey, can

785
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: we get you? I know you're out on the West Coast,

786
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: but you think we can get you to a Colts

787
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: game at some point.

788
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 5: This come out? I'm locked in h what was the

789
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 5: it was the Miami Dolphins game. I think it's like,

790
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: help me out. October seventy nineteenth, October twentieth, your flight

791
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 5: because I knew I got my flight. Yeah, okay, me

792
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 5: and my girlfriend are coming out. We're gonna we're gonna

793
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: see the guys. We're gonna be there. Hopefully they hopefully

794
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: they get us out on the sideline and give us

795
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: some guests pass, you know, so we can tour the facility.

796
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 5: But I got I gotta make sure I press them

797
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: about that.

798
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: I think we can make it happen.

799
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: We got some people who can.

800
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Hook you up for sure. Eddie, so very much for

801
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: the time, really appreciate it, all of your insight and everything,

802
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: all the work that you're doing. So cool to see

803
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: the impact and the growth there is within this defensive

804
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: line group especially. Can't wait to see those guys get

805
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: out there and get after it starting at training camp

806
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: next week up at Grand Park. Appreciate the time.

807
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Make sure you stay on those guys

808
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: at training camp. Make sure you stay onbody sent me.

809
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: I love it.

810
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 5: I love it.

811
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, excitement, excitement everywhere around with this man

812
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: and what he's going to do to help these young

813
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: colts players and stuff. How was that for it? You know,

814
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 4: what was the biggest thing that you learned that you

815
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: didn't know going in?

816
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: I think for me it was his endorsement strongly so

817
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: of Quitty Pay and the position that he has put

818
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 2: himself in going into this season. A lot of about

819
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: Layat two are things that we knew, But I think

820
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: one thing is, if we're going to Laau two is

821
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: how raw he was coming in to start working with

822
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: coach Eddie and then the development that he made. But

823
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: also when he was so raw and had such a

824
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: high ceiling already, Eddie was blown away by the things

825
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: that he was able to do. Primarily being self taught.

826
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: We've heard him talk about learning off of YouTube videos,

827
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: different things like that. So Eddie talked about just you know,

828
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: not over complicating a lot of the great things he

829
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: was already doing, just refining those aspects. But to me,

830
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: all of the things he said about the shape that

831
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: Quitty is in, not just physically but mentally going into

832
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: this season, I think is incredibly exciting, especially because this

833
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: is the first off season in which they've worked together

834
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: that Quity has been completely healthy, So that is significant

835
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: in terms of what you're gonna get from him going

836
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: into this season. A few other things I had to start,

837
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: like pulling out my notepad and jotting things down because

838
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: we'd stopped recording, and then we're talking like for another

839
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: ten minutes. Like this guy's energy is infectious. And in

840
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: talking to him about coach Charlie Partridge, the new defensive

841
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: line coach, he said, we're cut from the same cloth

842
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: when it comes to our philosophy with the pass rush.

843
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: He said, he is about his business with a coach

844
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: that's as experienced, as seasoned, as respected as coach Partridge is,

845
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't let little things slip, Like he is

846
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: never going to let something go. He is all about

847
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 2: creating the right habits and that comes from like ground up.

848
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: He said, it's really a perfect storm for this defense,

849
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: having both layout to Latu and coach Partridge coming in

850
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: in this off season to take this defensive line to

851
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: another level. He also told me that he and Partridge

852
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: talk frequently. He has the utmost respect for Gus and

853
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: how he operates as a defensive coach, and he's really

854
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: excited for now coach Gus Bradley to have this personnel

855
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: that he's now equipped with. And I think when I'm

856
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: looking at you know kind of storylines for this defense,

857
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: it is the frequency of disruption with your defensive front,

858
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: especially out of the gates with I'm just gonna go,

859
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna isolate the first three weeks this season, the

860
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that you have to face, you get CJ. Stroud

861
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: week one. You're gonna go up to Green Bay and

862
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: face Jordan Love week two, and then in week three

863
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: it's Caleb Williams. Right like, this is a gauntlet a

864
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: very talented, young, dynamic quarterbacks that are going to have

865
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: this defense proving themselves early on. And I think we have,

866
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: you know, in the past, we have somewhat seen. I mean,

867
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: what's the storyline going into Week one? Waste each and

868
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: every year, that sluggish start to the season, you know,

869
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: not getting out fast enough, not coming out, you know,

870
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: foot on the gas, all of those things. And you

871
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: know in talking and Coach Eddie is saying, like, you know,

872
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: you don't want to play from behind. They have an

873
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: offense now that will allow this defense to get after

874
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: the passer because it's a better balance in terms of

875
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: what you're equipped to do offensively. And you're not getting

876
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: yourself you shouldn't be. I guess I should say getting

877
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: yourself into these you know, two score, three score type

878
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: of deficits.

879
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: That's a really really good point just about how you know,

880
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: you can't just isolate the pass rush, right, It's got

881
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: to be the entirety of the team. And it's a

882
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: lot easier to rush the passer when you got to

883
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: lead than when you don't. That's proven. I mean, how

884
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: many sacks did you know Freenian mathis get when they

885
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: were closing out games in the fourth quarter and you

886
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: know Peyton Manning had given them a lead and said,

887
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: here you go, that stuff really does matter for a

888
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: pass rush. The thing that I'm going back to with

889
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: this pass rush is. I know we've talked a lot

890
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: about depth, and we've talked a lot about Okay, you

891
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: know you've got the here's kind of your starting forward.

892
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: But then you can roll in Dio dang bo in

893
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Taekwon Lewis and Raywon Davis and these guys who are

894
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: really really good rotational pieces who are gonna make an impact.

895
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: I still want the Colts to get that double digit

896
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: sack guy, whoever that is, whether that's you know, a

897
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: jump from Quidy Peya, jump from Samson ebucom Dio Laatu

898
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate strong, the Colts have not

899
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: had a double digit sack player, And I know a

900
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: better way to say that, by the way, like a

901
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: guy with double digit sacks, sack artist, maybe double digit sacker,

902
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: double digit sacker Since twenty nineteen, that was justin Houston.

903
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: That's the fourth longest drought in the NFL.

904
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: Only still in the NFL, by the way, isn't he.

905
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: That's only behind the Seahawks, Broncos and Falcons or ahead

906
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: of those teams?

907
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: JJ, are you disappointed at this group? Charlie Partridge, I'm

908
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: coach mcgilvrey leat two love, Are you disappointed at all

909
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 4: if this group doesn't get fifty one sacks and breaks?

910
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: You had another record the following I'm not.

911
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: I think the sacks will come. Yeah, the sacks are

912
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna come. And look, you're talking about a back to

913
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: back sacks or fifty plus sax seasons are really hard

914
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: to do. That is really hard to do. But what

915
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: I want to see, and we've talked about it a

916
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: lot on this podcast, is that uptick in pressure rate.

917
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: That's like you mentioned Lair, the uptick in disruption. You know, Okay,

918
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe you don't get a Sacks.

919
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: Are just one measure, right, Like I mean, it's a

920
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: flashy one. Everyone loves loves that, right, we love that

921
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: stat but there are so many other measures of an

922
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: effective defensive line.

923
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: Think about the Here's here's the sequence that's just like

924
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: seared into my mind is Week eighteen against Houston, Ronnie

925
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior comes screaming off the ig sacks C. J.

926
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: Stroud for a loss of teck. It's second in twenty

927
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: and Stroud's able to complete two passes to get a

928
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: first time right, and there wasn't a whole lot of

929
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: pressure on there, and this year, then will and that's

930
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: that's where Okay, you got him in second and twenty,

931
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: keep attacking. He's not just one isolated sack. It's a

932
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: sack and pressure.

933
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: Pressure PreCure usually hand in ten sacks a year to

934
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 4: go down to forty one. I'm just saying, in the Colts,

935
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: if you can add a you know, fifteen percent more

936
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: pressure on right on places that the quarterback was not

937
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: even you know, worried about being touched by anybody.

938
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: The flip side of that is then getting that like

939
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: that that one guy who and I think Buck is

940
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: probably the closest the Colts have to this, but that

941
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: one guy who offensive coordinators are just, yesw we have

942
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: to play this guy this week. I got gotta change

943
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: it my whole protection plan because they're playing like the

944
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: Colts have had in the past. Trey Hendrickson, TJ. Watt.

945
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: We'll get the frequency that he's double teamed, right, that

946
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: tells you how much of a worry that he is

947
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: for it is.

948
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a little bit different when

949
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: it's an interior guy, yeah yeah, versus a guy in

950
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: the edge where you can double team in with the

951
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: guard in the center and then single everyone else up

952
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: and you can still get your running back out in routes.

953
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I want the guy in the edge who it's like, Man,

954
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's third and seven and I would love

955
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: to get all five guys out in the route. But

956
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: we got to keep our running back into chip to

957
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: chip and release because I can't trust that player X

958
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: is gonna block the guy in the Colts like that's

959
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: what he would love to see. Now, it's not a

960
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: that's not like a prerequisite for a good season, and

961
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: you can still have a very impactful season as a defense,

962
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: it's up front without having that guy. I think if

963
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: the Colts are starting to fancy themselves as a real

964
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: contender in the AFC, though, I think that that's a

965
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: guy you would love to see em merge in this team.

966
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean, don't you think given the career that he

967
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: had collegiately and looking at the defensive line, that he's

968
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 2: joining that to some degree When these coaches are starting

969
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: to think about the season, there are already is some

970
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: degree accounting for Layatu Latu to be a wrecker.

971
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: I think you kind of have to, right, guy.

972
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't played a game yet, he hasn't

973
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: suited up yet, but you're already you're like, Okay, this

974
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: is something we likely need to account for an anticipate.

975
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: Every team probably scouted Layatu Latu to some except question right,

976
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: because you're you're thinking he could go anywhere in the

977
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: draft based on you know, the medical concerns, which the

978
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Colts obviously are hey, haffitable with.

979
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: But half of the teams, you know, with that medical

980
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: thing you're talking about, half of them said we're out.

981
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: But even then, you're when you're looking at the tape,

982
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: you're you're looking at him and be like, man, this

983
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: guy he's good.

984
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

985
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone could look at his tape

986
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: and say that guy's not a really good pass.

987
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: It's also just that so many teams were so offensive smitten.

988
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's the other thing that wasn't that's you know,

989
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: it wasn't anything about him. It was so we we

990
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: want quarterbacks and receivers.

991
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: So I mean, but I think all these teams that

992
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: did scout lat To, which I think is probably most

993
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: of the leagues, are gonna say, this guy's really good,

994
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: and when we go into week whatever, we gotta have

995
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: a plan for this guy because when we scouted him

996
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: when we looked at him, when our defensive coordinator put

997
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: on its tape, he was like, this guy's really good.

998
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be an interesting kind of sub sext

999
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: to it. What I want to see though, and maybe

1000
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Maybe I'm kind of talking out of

1001
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: both sides of my mouth with the double double digit

1002
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: sack guy, but I want to see like this come

1003
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: in waves like I think sometimes you see with rookies,

1004
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: you get, you get off to this really hot start,

1005
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: then the league adjusts to Okay, if the league is

1006
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: going to adjust to Layatu Latu in week five, week six, okay,

1007
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: can can quity and die over come on?

1008
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: Then?

1009
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: Can Samson come on? Then? And you keep that that

1010
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: one guy just rolling where Maybe it's not that one

1011
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: single guy, but every week there's a guy on the

1012
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: edge who you're just like, he's he's on fire, he's

1013
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: playing great. Right now we have to account for him

1014
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: in ways that we don't want to.

1015
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: Right, guys are saying on the defensive side of the ball,

1016
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: camp is coming up, the storylines are everywhere. Let's go

1017
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: to pick put your thing caps on for a minute

1018
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: and pick a veteran on the defensive side of the

1019
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: ball that maybe not be a huge storyline in at

1020
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: Grand Park, but somebody that you know is going to

1021
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: bring it. We take this guy for granted type thing

1022
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: without talking about him a lot.

1023
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 1: What do you think I mean? We were just talking

1024
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: about the defensive line and I mentioned DeForest Buckner like twice.

1025
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, that's good. Let's not let's not lose sight. Yeah,

1026
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: and like through all this in me saying I want

1027
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: the double digit sack guy, all that the pressure. DeForest

1028
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Buckner is really really freaking good. Yeah, he's a really

1029
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: good football player who generates pressure from the interior. He

1030
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: is a menace to defend. If he gets you one

1031
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: on one, lookout and he and you give him. If

1032
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: you give buck multiple opportunities in a game one on one,

1033
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: he is going to hit home on at least one

1034
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: of them. He's gonna set it up. He's going to

1035
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: hit that trademark swim move. He's going to get in

1036
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: the backfield and do something. And then Grover Stewart, like

1037
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: that Buck and Grove duo that we become so used

1038
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: to here since twenty twenty. Let's not lose sight of

1039
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: how good they are. Yeah, right, during there are some

1040
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: practices up a grand park that we've seen over the

1041
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: years where it's just like it's an awful day for

1042
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: the offense, and it's because of two guys, because of

1043
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: buck and Grove, and it's like you're to keep him

1044
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Remember that one. This was like

1045
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: my first training camp le Era where Grove tipped a

1046
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: screen pass to himself and he picked it off, yes,

1047
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: and ran it back for like a pick six, Like

1048
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: Grove Grove during training camp, Grove, give me, give me

1049
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: a cue Verus Grove one on the let's go battle

1050
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: those are I can't wait one thing.

1051
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: There's just a report that came out ESPN's Jeremy Fowler

1052
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: was ranking best at each position and he put to

1053
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: Forrest Buckner among the top ten defensive tackles in the league.

1054
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, and this is an accumulation of

1055
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: a bunch of people who voted and contributed. He comes

1056
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: in at number eight on Fowler's rankings. Five You've got

1057
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: like Chris Jones at number one, Quinn Williams, Dexter Lawrence,

1058
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 2: but Faler rights. Buckner has been quote the model of consistency,

1059
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: not only since he joined the Colts in twenty twenty,

1060
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: but throughout his in his career in four seasons, recorded

1061
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: at least seven sacks each season, including eight of the

1062
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: last eight in the last two seasons, and averaged almost

1063
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: fifty four quarterback pressures each of those seasons as well,

1064
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: Like just a couple of and these this is like

1065
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: a recent this is in the last like twenty four

1066
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: hours that this report came out.

1067
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: And the CFLs that he gets against the run, for sure, yeah,

1068
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: a manusculea anybody.

1069
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: Keeping so Grover for me kind of to piggyback on

1070
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: what JAJ said, I picked two. I cheated a little bit.

1071
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: I think that you just Grover and we hear the

1072
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: guys like you know, stomping for him every year for

1073
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl voting and all of those things that are

1074
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: so well deserved based on what he does. Just looking

1075
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: at you know, his last season and he even you know,

1076
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: missed a couple of games last season, of course, but

1077
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: just like the tackle numbers, five TFLs right, eight quarterback

1078
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: hits for Grover, so him just he's a stalwart there

1079
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: up front. And I think that to some degree he

1080
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: gets overshadowed because of DeForest and what he is able

1081
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: to do. But that's a good guy to get overshadowed by.

1082
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: And those two have like the most fun dynamic right there,

1083
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: Like that synergy between the two of them. The other

1084
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: guy who I'm going to toss into this mix, who

1085
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't think we have the opportunity to talk nearly

1086
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: enough about, and he is, in my opinion, going to

1087
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: put the league on notice. It's EJ. Speed. I thought

1088
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: this season he had last year was monstrous. And I

1089
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: think that when you have seen the very steady trajectory

1090
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: of a guy like Zaire Franklin and then you see

1091
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: what EJ. Speed is doing alongside him, like this guy

1092
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: last season obviously like combined for one hundred and two tackles,

1093
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: twelve TFLs from him.

1094
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: Like it's just you know what, my favorite number that

1095
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: he had last year the sack three force fumbles.

1096
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: There you go, three forource fumbles, Yes, exactly, Yes, Like

1097
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: it's he is one to me that I think that

1098
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: you have seen and I never want to, you know

1099
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: kind of you don't want to compare anyone specifically to another,

1100
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: but you know, for so long we saw the you know,

1101
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: game wrecker that Shaquil Leonard had been within this defense,

1102
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: the way he was able to take the ball away

1103
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: and create pressure on opposing offenses. And I think that,

1104
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, no one is going to be the maniac

1105
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: and you don't want to put that like expectation because

1106
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: of the ridiculous seasons that obviously that he had, but

1107
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: you do look at you know, obviously they have that

1108
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: kind of similar style about them and EJ. Speed, So

1109
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: I think that he is very much positioning himself to

1110
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: be that complimentary piece in the linebacking, you know, alongside

1111
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: Zyr Franklin, to be that no pun intended one two punch.

1112
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1113
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: I also think it's it's just like under this category

1114
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: of like the players who we shouldn't take for granted,

1115
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: Like what a testament to Kenny Moore the second Zaire

1116
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: Franklin that like they're also part of this category that

1117
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: you're just like you can set it and forget it

1118
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: with those two guys in this defense and be like,

1119
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: they're going to be pillars in the defense, they're gonna

1120
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: be team leaders, they're gonna put up great seasons and

1121
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it. For an undrafted

1122
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: free agent and the seventh round draft pick right, that's

1123
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: like just remarkable for those two guys.

1124
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring with Sampson

1125
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: Ebukom getting pushed by a rookie and number one draft

1126
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: choice fifteenth overall, a new defensive line coach in Charlie Partridge.

1127
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: He knows what time it is. He's a veteran, he

1128
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: played well last year, and that's of depth that that need,

1129
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: that that room needs, is this guy to be up

1130
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: there with the eight nine press sacks potentially like he's

1131
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: brought in years past. So I'm gonna keep my eye

1132
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 4: out for Samson. Obviously, Quitty, you know, got the extension

1133
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: for this year. Next year we find out what happens,

1134
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: so he's gonna be playing with his tail on fire

1135
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: as well. So that's gonna be fun. We talked about

1136
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: it earlier in the show the kickoffs very quickly. Are

1137
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: we going to see this thing the kickoff? The new

1138
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 4: kickoff rules with the NFL JJ. Well, we see this

1139
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: thing kind of we don't know what it's gonna be

1140
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: just yet, but we gotta kind of cook it for

1141
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: three weeks, four weeks, five weeks to find out what

1142
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: it is.

1143
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: It is.

1144
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: It gonna change preseason game to preseason game.

1145
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: Yes, it will. It's gonna be a learning on the

1146
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: fly for the entire NFL because even you could sort

1147
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: of work on it during OTAs, but there's no pads,

1148
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: so you can't really get a feel for the speed

1149
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: of it, for the physicality that you're gonna encounter of it.

1150
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: And really, I mean during training camp, it's gonna be

1151
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: a little hard to work on it in those practices

1152
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna go full hitting potentially, you know,

1153
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: with those So really it's the preseason games. Like usually

1154
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: preseason games you're kind of like, all right, let's get

1155
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: the offense defense and work get them out of there,

1156
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: and then you stop paying attention the kickoffs. You better

1157
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: be tuning in forever kickoff in these games because it's

1158
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, hey, let's figure out who's going to

1159
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: be back there first and foremost, right, like is it

1160
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: gonna be Dallas Flowers, Is it going to be Anthony

1161
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: Gould back there? Is it going to be someone else

1162
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: back there? And then figure out who's going to be

1163
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: Are you going to have Mac gay kicking it off?

1164
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: I saw that report that Kansas City was thinking about

1165
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: having Eric Reid do it now. Eric Reed is a

1166
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: little bit of kicking experience, but he's a safety, and

1167
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, if you need guys to tackle.

1168
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why. When you said Eric Red, my

1169
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: mind went to Andy Reid and I was like, well,

1170
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: that would be we've seen If you have not seen

1171
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: that clip, like google Andy Reid punt past kick it's phenomenal.

1172
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: There's a six seven adult and then twelve year old out.

1173
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1174
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, now on these things is going

1175
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: to be a big deal. Sure, it's it's not going

1176
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: to be your traditional kickoff coverage, kickoff return personnel that

1177
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: we've seen in years past.

1178
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: The coordinators across the league in ots and mini can't

1179
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: say that they were trying out like receivers. You're talking

1180
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: running backs. If you even were saying that through a

1181
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: tight end back there just to see. I think that

1182
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: this is for sure like a trial and error a

1183
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: situation they.

1184
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 4: Have like going into camp, you know, a loose depth

1185
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 4: chart of who's on kickoff, who's on kickoff return. I

1186
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: think the time that's being spent during this camp at

1187
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: Grand Park, more time has to be spent on these

1188
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 4: new rules and the setup with it. But because even

1189
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 4: some of these guys, that's what I'm saying, we're not

1190
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: getting seven on seven as much as we well, as

1191
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 4: much as we want. We might be getting more special teams.

1192
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so, no, because I think you can't

1193
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: really simulate it until you get into a game.

1194
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: I do think the joint practices could be an interesting measure.

1195
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: I really think when you get Arizona in here for

1196
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: those two practices up at Grand Park, that'll be interesting

1197
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: to me with how they're handling it and how you're

1198
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: gonna see those two go ahead to head.

1199
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: You get a little more a little more physical in those.

1200
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you can. And it's just also your first

1201
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: opportunity to see what another team is doing shot out

1202
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: personnel wise, what they're doing, how they're handling it, how

1203
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: they're schieding.

1204
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: And then you wonder, okay, now now you kind of

1205
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: get into this like wheels of the wheels thing of

1206
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: like our coach is going to hold back their strategy

1207
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: preseason games are going, but also do you need to

1208
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: just try it? Yes, because if you get to week

1209
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: one and it's like we've held everything back behind closed doors,

1210
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: and then you get to week one and we haven't

1211
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: actually practiced live contact on these Is that going to

1212
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: be a problem. I don't know.

1213
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: Yah, here's what I think. I think that you are.

1214
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: I think that so many teams will be forced to

1215
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: try things out that there's going to be such an

1216
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: experimentation that there's really no clear cut this is what

1217
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: they're going to do, because the rotation will be so

1218
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: heavy with trying various things that you can get away

1219
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: with really being pretty honest but not totally tipping your

1220
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: hand because of you know, what we're going to see

1221
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: and how it's going to be manipulated and changed over

1222
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: those you know, critical what four weeks, five weeks or so.

1223
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't like you know, on offense or you

1224
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: run these bland concepts. Yeah, we're not showing you anything.

1225
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: It's like you can be honest, like you said, Lara,

1226
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: because we're being honest and that this might not be

1227
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: what we do anyways. Correct the season starts.

1228
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we might put a guy out there and

1229
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: try it out there and he may not end up

1230
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: being on the fifty three because this might not work

1231
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: the way that we want, but we serve have to

1232
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: try it out because we got to find that out.

1233
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: Week two of camp, we three of camp, and not

1234
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: week one, two three of the season.

1235
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 4: We have to we have to be open to this.

1236
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: This is a new angle of nflular season.

1237
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: I'll say though, I think that Brian Mason, special teams

1238
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: coordinator of course here for the Colts, is really well

1239
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: suited with this because he is such like I think,

1240
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a fond but like

1241
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: he is very uh he's a mad scientist with these

1242
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: type of things. Yes, Like he's incredibly cerebral with how

1243
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: he approaches these things. And when we had him back

1244
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: here in studio as soon as this was announced, he

1245
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: was launching into it and you can see like the

1246
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: wheels are turned and things were working, all of those things. Like,

1247
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: I think that it's really interesting because of you know,

1248
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: Brian's experience obviously navigating between college football now to the NFL,

1249
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: taking influences from you know, what they have seen with

1250
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: this model similar in the XFL. It's going to be

1251
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting merger of all of those things

1252
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: and in his mind and how that works for him

1253
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: alongside Joe Hastings.

1254
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on.

1255
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna be fun. Like I said, NFL

1256
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: fans they like their steak medium. Well every time they

1257
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: eat it, and now it's like, hey, wait a minute,

1258
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: it's a little bit medium rare. I don't know. I'm

1259
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: okay you like that analogy? I wicked guy, But like summertime,

1260
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: you know.

1261
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: I went to Commissioned Row got a medium rare steak.

1262
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: It was great.

1263
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: I like it a little bit dumb.

1264
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: But you don't want to wait, hold on you.

1265
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: I want to go like off football for just a second,

1266
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: because we have like kind of this like final summer.

1267
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: So Ray, you had a great little visit to the

1268
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: ballpark right with your boys, just recently.

1269
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: Took them, took them to their first major league game.

1270
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: We went up to Socks Park to go watch the

1271
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: White Sox lose to the Pirates. Okay, they had a

1272
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: blast stage pitch No no, unfortunately, Yeah, some guy I

1273
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: never heard of pitch for the Pirates.

1274
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: They're holding out a Star game. Still, that's holding out

1275
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: for the All Star Games.

1276
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: That's your team, that's your team you bring.

1277
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 2: That's great, But my question comes back to Jeffrey here.

1278
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: Did you get a dog at the ballpark? How do

1279
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: you order your dog? And how do the stank boys

1280
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: order the dogs.

1281
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: The boys hold on the part of their dogs. No bun,

1282
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: just Charlie's just holding the hot dogs, bites out.

1283
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: Of it and old snak boys.

1284
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: Henry opted for the beef because he is my kid. Okay,

1285
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: so he had he had your your boiled beef, sure

1286
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: delicious with some j He didn't have the jardanara.

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Speaker 2: Is it was it Portillo's Do they offer Portillo bona beef?

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Speaker 5: Got it? Great?

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Speaker 1: Great stuff up in Chicago bona beef boil? Okay, very

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Speaker 1: well boiled. I got my hot dog with the In Chicago,

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Speaker 1: you'll get offered this like neon green relish. It's definitely

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Speaker 1: got some chemicals in it. Man, it's good. It's better

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Speaker 1: than regular relish.

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Speaker 4: I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: And mustard almost got in my car one day.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, get that Injurine Probably you

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Speaker 4: probably don't get It's a great question, by the way,

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Speaker 4: and I'm so can I answer this? Please? Double row

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Speaker 4: of yellow mustard on both sides, one row, two rows,

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00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: dog in the middle all day, so you need just

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Speaker 4: a slab of mustard. Great brought worse, same thing involved,

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Speaker 4: But I love that. Yeah, good job on you bring

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00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: your kids to the game. These kids will remember that

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Speaker 4: for the rest of their lives. I remember my first

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01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: Detroit Tigers game with my dad way back in the day.

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Speaker 4: So well done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately the White Sox are terrible. Yeah, and they lost.

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Speaker 4: Do the boys know that their father or their father

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Speaker 4: is a Major League Baseball two thousand, nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 4: through twenty thirteen savant.

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Speaker 1: Baseball legitimately, I'm not kidding you. I have actually searched

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Speaker 1: for a rold Mondes Toronto Blue Jays four ty jersey

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01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: because I was one day sitting up in bad and

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Speaker 1: I was like, it'd be really funny is to get

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Speaker 1: him like a random jersey from when I was growing up.

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Speaker 1: You should couldn't find.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely, or get him a Brian Fuentez jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're still man. Get me started. I thought I had

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Speaker 4: him on Fuentes. That's another story. But guys, all right.

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Speaker 4: Cult reunions coming up on the Colts Audio Network on Wednesday,

1321
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Speaker 4: we got the last word with Dallas Clark, who's going

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Speaker 4: in the Colts Ring of Honor mate Matt Taylor and

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Speaker 4: I had a chance to catch up with him. That's

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Speaker 4: also on the Colts Audio Network. What do you got me?

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Speaker 4: What do you guys got before me? Before we say

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Speaker 4: goodbye for a long weekend, because the next time you're

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Speaker 4: gonna hear and see from us, it'll be one day

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Speaker 4: before that camp breaks, working on Camp open.

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Speaker 2: Working on some great things in terms of training, camp

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Speaker 2: arrival and all of that. So we will be inundating

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Speaker 2: your feeds, you know, come next Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, with

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Speaker 2: all of the camp content coming in, exciting stuff with

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Speaker 2: the guys getting back and to the building, getting to work,

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Speaker 2: all of that. So we will have some exclusive access

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Speaker 2: for all those things.

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Speaker 1: Working on just some training camp previews, yep. Kind of

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Speaker 1: a lot of what we talked about on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: just in writing on Colts dot Com. Let's pump your

1339
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Clark interview too, by the way, you got a

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Speaker 1: good one sit down to Dallas Clark for the last

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Speaker 1: Word on Friday.

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Speaker 4: That's coming up on Friday. You can find it on

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: Colts dot Com as well in the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 4: But Dallas is overwhelmed and it's a it was a

1345
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: great interview that we just caught up with them on.

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Speaker 4: Had no idea this thing was coming, hell, he did,

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 4: He said, I had no idea it was even going

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Speaker 4: to get drafted in the first three rounds of the NFL,

1349
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: so you know, getting the Ring of Honors thing. Anyway,

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01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: that's available on the Colts Audio Network as well, And

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Speaker 4: next time you hear from us, we would be one

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Speaker 4: day from reporting to Grant Park.

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Speaker 1: And on that official podcast next week, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: previewing the offense. Yes good, and I'm gonna have a

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Speaker 1: conversation with one of Twitter's foremost Anthony Richardson supporters, Nate

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Speaker 1: Tice from Yahoo Sports. Nate Tice, Okay, quarterback guru, just

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01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: football guru, right, a guy who I've listened to a

1358
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Speaker 1: lot on his podcast from the Athletic Now at Yahoo.

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: Really excited to talk with him about Anthony Richardson and

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Speaker 1: Shanstike and get us right exciting stuff.

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Speaker 4: Next week, be sure to listen for that the official

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 4: Coats podcast. We'll be coming at you next week and

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01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 4: then we flip it over to training camp and all

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Speaker 4: heck breaks loose, but it's fun. I'll see you in

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Speaker 4: the lunch room. I'll also see you walking from our

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01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty yard walk to our cars.

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Speaker 1: You know it, can't wait for it. But guys, thank give

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Speaker 1: me steps in a camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. At Larra Overton on Twitter, X at

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01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 4: jj Stankoviitch. Be sure to follow him on social media

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01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 4: as well, and obviously on Colts dot Com.

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Speaker 5: You get it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. I know we threw a lot on you today,

1374
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,479
Speaker 4: a lot on your plate, but getting these Colts fans

1375
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: ready and myself included for the season. These guys are

1376
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 4: the best in the business, so'll make sure you follow them.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah,