Speaker 1: By the way, my dad likes eating pop tarts, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the names of anything, so he called
Speaker 1: it a jump tart. This happened like last week.
Speaker 2: Hey, when they're when they're in the toaster and they
Speaker 2: pop up, they jump.
Speaker 1: He also called a BlackBerry. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: called a BlackBerry a buck eye. He has a but
Speaker 1: he has a BlackBerry. And he goes, you know, these
Speaker 1: things are amazing, and I was like, yeah, but they're obsolete,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why you're charging it. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're still incredible whether or not they're obsolete.
Speaker 1: Look at this thing, I mean, and and then somehow
Speaker 1: he said this buck guy, Yeah, he doesn't care.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the technology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you.
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about there's a whole other plant.
Speaker 1: Who knows what he called pomp pilot.
Speaker 2: I wish I had a joke.
Speaker 1: I should have a punchline for that, but I don't.
Speaker 2: Hello the Internet, and Welcome to season three, seventy one,
Speaker 2: episode five of der Daily's Ice Stay production of iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: twenty five. My name is Jack O'Brien aka.
Speaker 3: Hem Baby Baby, Hem Baby Baby. My meat build up
Speaker 3: is killing me and I must confess the raw ham juice,
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Speaker 4: Juice, unknown meat. Read the dudes on the line, give
Speaker 4: me a sign large hand babies one more time. That's
Speaker 4: courtesy of you. Curn't do that on television. You curn't
Speaker 4: do that on television.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Also, sorry Steaming Chuck, author of
Speaker 2: yesterday's AKA for calling you steaming Chunk. I'm oh, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be happening more and more, folks. We just
Speaker 2: have to get used to me putting s's on the
Speaker 2: end of people's names, or you know, it's gonna be embarrassing.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate you all being along for the ride.
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be joined once again in our second seat,
Speaker 2: our miles seat, by a very talented writers, stand up comedian,
Speaker 2: and co host of The Bechdel Cast, one of the
Speaker 2: great film podcasts. It's Kaitlin Doronte.
Speaker 5: Actually it's Caitlin's Dorante's.
Speaker 2: You should have put that, Brad Pitts. So my dad
Speaker 2: calls him, Yeah, just kidding.
Speaker 5: It's me singular Caitlin, singular Durante.
Speaker 2: Caitlin Durante. Mid Atlantic. You're from the mid Atlantic region? Yes?
Speaker 2: When Justin asked if we were already recorded, yes, a
Speaker 2: very distinguished mid Atlantic way. I admire.
Speaker 5: Transatlantic, not mid Atland.
Speaker 2: I thought mid Atlantic. Maybe maybe it is transatlantic whatever
Speaker 2: the like hepburn thing is, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what's what.
Speaker 2: Like like a real sophisticate, But I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: not from anywhere so much as a time and an idea.
Speaker 2: So true, so true. Well he's been waiting patiently in
Speaker 2: our third seat. Hilarious stand up comedian, actor, musician, and
Speaker 2: you can listen to on his podcast Colebrew Got Me
Speaker 2: Like Anywhere in his book The Advice King Anthology is
Speaker 2: available anywhere fine books are sold. The poetry window is
Speaker 2: open because it's Chris motherfucking crafting.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Yeah, how are you guys doing? What?
Speaker 1: Let's see if I if I could save Chris Crofton
Speaker 1: in a bottle. The first thing that I like to
Speaker 1: do save every day till eternity passes, so I could
Speaker 1: spend it with Chris Crofton.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Chris crofton being saved in the bottle and
Speaker 2: my own.
Speaker 1: Aka's if I just bullshit, absolute bullshit that I do
Speaker 1: not have akas and I have to do these humiliating
Speaker 1: classic rock akas.
Speaker 2: Chris was fuming about the lack of akas, even though
Speaker 2: there's like tons of them in the discord by the way,
Speaker 2: for you for Chris Crofting, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I mean I can't do it. Clearly, I'm
Speaker 1: not even good at it. To be leaving me abandoning
Speaker 1: meat in my own ak k is when I'm horrible
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: I thought, don't heard it from a.
Speaker 1: Friend who heard it from a friend heard it from
Speaker 1: another You were, Chris Crofting.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 5: What's that chrisscroft song? Is there something there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Chris, I'm Crofting, warm it up, Chris.
Speaker 1: Hold different generations. I was like, oh, Christopher Cross, yeah,
Speaker 1: craft and take me away to where I'm going.
Speaker 2: This is the episode.
Speaker 5: Wait do I have? Does does anyone write a k's
Speaker 5: for me?
Speaker 1: Or am I That's a good question. That's what I
Speaker 1: feel like. It's not fair. There's Jack over there, all
Speaker 1: smug with akas like probably for days, probably.
Speaker 2: Scroll like a k as for a k days.
Speaker 1: No one calls my legs plumpers. No one does ship
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. I think there's a hit like.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are probably at least five a ka's
Speaker 2: for each of you. Wow, in the in the discord.
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people do anagrams for me.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then of course there's they do Yeah, Chris,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew this, but Caitlin is
Speaker 2: the most anagrammable name in the English language. Is that true?
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's very Titanic. Nine tit Dracula, Latin dancer,
Speaker 2: u t I.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, these are all good band names. Nine
Speaker 1: Dracula is a great name for a noise band.
Speaker 5: Or yeah, rules, I'll start one. Yeah, there's dozens others,
Speaker 5: dozens of others, and many of them have the word tit, taint,
Speaker 5: cunt uh nut like. It's a lot of dirty words too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm gonna stay away from those. Then I can't
Speaker 1: say those anagrams. I can't how are telling you without
Speaker 1: being gees? So you can't say that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: to anybody, even if it is an anagram. Hey, guess
Speaker 1: what your anagram is? Content? You can't the people content, Dracula.
Speaker 2: That might be true, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Also calling the police.
Speaker 2: All right, Chris, we're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 2: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
Speaker 2: the listeners a couple of the stories we're talking about
Speaker 2: later on, if we get to them. We are going
Speaker 2: to say rip to David Lynch who passed away yesterday.
Speaker 2: We might check in with Drake Suing his own record label,
Speaker 2: and uh, why the Village People will be playing at
Speaker 2: Trump's inauguration even though they said they were not gonna
Speaker 2: be all of that plenty more. But before we get
Speaker 2: to it, Chris, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 2: what is something for your search history?
Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna believe this one. Uh, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be something silly. If you've been listening to my
Speaker 1: Colbrew Got Me Like podcast, which is really it's been
Speaker 1: just nothing but good morning Got Me Likes. We're three
Speaker 1: days a week I do a podcast in the morning
Speaker 1: and just talk a little bit about my state of
Speaker 1: mind and read a poem and then play a song
Speaker 1: a little bit of a song to recommend a song.
Speaker 1: But if you've heard the last couple I've been talking
Speaker 1: about the ketamine treatments I've been getting, oh yeah, which
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't feel like I wasn't sure whether to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, how the podcast microphone could be like a
Speaker 1: truth serum. Like when I first started doing podcasts, I
Speaker 1: was like, what am I saying? I can't Why am
Speaker 1: I telling these people this stuff? Right? You know, like
Speaker 1: I you know, and I felt like maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 1: mention this ketamine stuff in case people think it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's insane, you know, But my depression has been a
Speaker 1: lifelong and I I take Zoloft. I've taken Zoloft for
Speaker 1: twenty years. I've tried various other SSRIs I do not
Speaker 1: They all make me basically nervous or have sexual side
Speaker 1: effects or both. And with Zoloft, it doesn't make me nervous,
Speaker 1: but I still have sexual side effects that suck, you know, especially,
Speaker 1: It's just it's just things that you put up with
Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, I'm I'm like I don't want
Speaker 1: to sleep all day because that's like sort of my
Speaker 1: My way of dealing with depression is I just can sleep,
Speaker 1: you know, for like insane amounts of time and yeah,
Speaker 1: like really surreal amounts of time. And I And that's
Speaker 1: like whenever you're thinking like depressions like fake, which I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people will have depression think it is,
Speaker 1: you know, because there's so many things going on in
Speaker 1: the world that could make you depressed. Now it's like
Speaker 1: if you have clinical depression as well, you start to say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, maybe I'm just like I'm
Speaker 1: just a big complainer. Like everyone else is sad too,
Speaker 1: you know. I Mean, so there's a lot of ways
Speaker 1: to like sort of gaslight yourself about.
Speaker 2: Depression into think it's just a thing to get over
Speaker 2: on your own. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean in my life, I've slept like thirty five
Speaker 1: hours in a row, like actually slept, like not not gotten,
Speaker 1: you know, get up, yes to like go to the
Speaker 1: bathroom or whatever, but you know, like really be asleep
Speaker 1: for that long. Like that's not something you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be able to do. I mean, that's like the species
Speaker 1: wouldn't survive everybody was sleeping thirty five hours. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think there is somewhere in the middle,
Speaker 1: like maybe ten hours. Like I don't think you have
Speaker 1: to sleep three hours and keep diet coke and a
Speaker 1: gun on your dresser, like, you know, I think there's
Speaker 1: a help that I think there's a happy medium, you know.
Speaker 1: So the thing about this drugs bravado is I my
Speaker 1: my new psychologists that I have because I'm so poor
Speaker 1: that I have heavily subsidized insurance that's actually kind of
Speaker 1: deluxe right now. But I do have right now nine
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month insurance for fourteen dollars a month.
Speaker 1: So I figured, and my psychiatrist said, because I was
Speaker 1: trying to approach this because of the winter, because the
Speaker 1: winter is when I fall apart, and it happens in
Speaker 1: California too, Like that was a funny thing to go
Speaker 1: to California and you're just like, Oh, this can't happen.
Speaker 2: Get winter here.
Speaker 1: You can get depressed anywhere, it turns out, any in
Speaker 1: any weather, especially if it's the time of year that's
Speaker 1: quote unquote winter, even if it's sunny out and warm.
Speaker 1: But so I just tried to take it seriously, and
Speaker 1: so she recommended, she said, well you tried this, I
Speaker 1: tried a new drug over the summer and it didn't
Speaker 1: agree with me, the usual anxiety. And I went in
Speaker 1: and I so, I said, she said, we can try this, Bravado.
Speaker 1: You're technically depression. Your depression is a treatment resistant. If
Speaker 1: you've tried like five antidepressants and they all you don't
Speaker 1: agree with you, which is certainly true. Sure I've tried
Speaker 1: more than that over the years. People always recommend well Buttrin.
Speaker 1: You know how I found out Well Butrin wasn't working
Speaker 1: for me. When I tried switched to it in like
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, I was like, because it makes me kind
Speaker 1: of manic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Beautrim the first got a little bit of
Speaker 6: up to it. So the first two weeks I'm like,
Speaker 6: I think I'm having a breakthrough. Yeah, I feel kind
Speaker 6: of I feel kind of wild. Maybe this is my
Speaker 6: natural setting, that's how it should be, you know.
Speaker 1: But then one day I was driving down like the
Speaker 1: highway freeway, you know, and and I was listening to
Speaker 1: the Final Cut by Pink Floyd really loud and drinking
Speaker 1: of vanilla latte, neither of which I do.
Speaker 2: To just change personality.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is I'm not this is
Speaker 1: not this is not going well, so I got off
Speaker 1: of it. But anyway, I've I've had two treatments of
Speaker 1: and the collision of Western and Eastern medicine is the funniest,
Speaker 1: most idiotic thing I've ever seen. Tripping in a strip mall,
Speaker 1: I would compare it.
Speaker 2: To right, Yeah, it's like a psychedelic Like some ketemiane
Speaker 2: treatment is like a psychedelic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tripping in a regular doctor's office with regular Tennessee mind
Speaker 1: you Tennessee, like not nurses, just like medical assistance, which
Speaker 1: is like.
Speaker 2: Kind of sitting with you and talking you through it.
Speaker 1: Your shaman is the ascent is the same as like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how the vibe would be like a
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like being talked through a
Speaker 1: trip by like two people who work at Jiffy Loop.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That happened to me on Monday, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're going to approach this at like
Speaker 2: a broad level, there's going to be a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like industrial trip sitters, you know, Like.
Speaker 1: It was insane. They were so nice and they were
Speaker 1: just like but they were just like You're gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: you know, but they look scared you know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I am like, why are you scared. They're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I just started doing this.
Speaker 1: I just started doing it.
Speaker 5: It's because they're also animating.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the truth. Okay, So this one
Speaker 1: of the two women who one was like, this is
Speaker 1: my job, right, And I was like, oh yeah, what's
Speaker 1: your degree? She's like, I'm a medical assistant. I went
Speaker 1: to school for a year.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you sound like an asshole. By the way.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh yeah, what's your degree?
Speaker 1: Listen. I said, well no, because I'm like I'm scared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I flipped on Monday. I don't do drugs. I'm sober.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I stopped doing psychedelics in nineteen ninety two because I lost,
Speaker 1: because I I thought I was dying and ruined everybody's
Speaker 1: trip and everything. You know what I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: worse than tripping with the you know, the anxiety guy.
Speaker 2: Sure, we're we've been. We've been this lace, this lace.
Speaker 2: I was the worst. I was a like hurricane level
Speaker 2: nightmare blunt rotation. I was the worst person to smoke
Speaker 2: weed with me too.
Speaker 1: By the NDID. For a while, I was pretty good
Speaker 1: at it, but then we got better and then I
Speaker 1: then I then I fell apart. But anyway, it was
Speaker 1: just I'm excited about it because the second treatment I
Speaker 1: had yesterday, I was able to well, this is the
Speaker 1: thing I asked all I'm all I asked was like,
Speaker 1: is there a doctor, Like? Can I see a doctor? Like?
Speaker 1: I didn't see a doctor through the whole thing. So
Speaker 1: I just saw these two people who gave me this drug.
Speaker 1: They said I was gonna be okay, and then but
Speaker 1: they just kept saying You're gonna be okay. But then
Speaker 1: they also did get get kind of scared in the middle.
Speaker 1: They were like, your blood rush is a little high.
Speaker 1: They said, that's me while I'm on the drug. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's like that's I don't care
Speaker 1: if I don't have a degree, and I have a
Speaker 1: degree in art history and I got like a C plus,
Speaker 1: so I'm not I just want to know that I'm
Speaker 1: not going to die. And if you're asking people who
Speaker 1: are kind of like I just did that. One of
Speaker 1: the people who was in there being my trip guide
Speaker 1: was the front desk person who I had seen the
Speaker 1: other day when they said that the medicine didn't come in.
Speaker 1: The person told me, right, So I was just like
Speaker 1: I was, and I was being sensitive while I was tripping,
Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm not trying to be a jerk,
Speaker 1: but do you have any kind of medical accreditation to
Speaker 1: be in here? Because the front desk the other day
Speaker 1: and she goes and while I'm tripping, she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have me bouncing around.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1: But I did get the head of the whole organization,
Speaker 1: which I of course won't mention, but she got on
Speaker 1: the face time or you FaceTime with me or what
Speaker 1: the hell it is? Yeah, that's what old people always
Speaker 1: say about stuff like that, Yeah, or whatever the hell
Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, whatever the hell it is. And she
Speaker 1: told me that it's an anesthetic, so when you feel
Speaker 1: like you can't breathe, it's just because you have been
Speaker 1: basically your whole body numbs out, so you can't you
Speaker 1: can't feel your breathing. But I needed to know that
Speaker 1: ahead of time, that was the thing.
Speaker 5: It would have been helpful, it really.
Speaker 1: Those because I kind of knew it was an anesthetic,
Speaker 1: but they didn't really get into specifics. So I ended
Speaker 1: up talking to these two people like in an intimate way.
Speaker 1: I've lost my mind. I thought I was dying, So
Speaker 1: I was like I was. I was talking to these
Speaker 1: people like that I met fifteen minutes ago about I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like tripping, having a meltdown like that, you kind
Speaker 1: of wanna it's pretty uncomfortable. Yeah, you know, Like I
Speaker 1: was telling them that I felt like a tongue depressor
Speaker 1: made of static and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know, and they're like, wow, pretty cool.
Speaker 1: They were like, well, your blood pressure is a little high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not. I don't know that being told your
Speaker 2: blood pressure is experience. It's not.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: If you think good morning got me like is boring,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta start tuning in because I'm doing
Speaker 1: reports on this stuff. I did have a great experience yesterday.
Speaker 1: I just was a little bit more ready for it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic, but I'm also not that optimistic. I don't
Speaker 1: know that there's a drug that can cure, you know,
Speaker 1: the modern malaise we have with you know, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know tech bros in the White House combined with clinical depression.
Speaker 1: I doubt there's like some.
Speaker 2: You know bros. Are giving like some of the psychedelic
Speaker 2: therapy a bad name. But I do think there's value
Speaker 2: to it for a lot of people, for a lot
Speaker 2: of conditions, if it's like being you know, if it's
Speaker 2: being done in a therapeutic setting with like good doctors.
Speaker 1: I got better answers yesterday because because I just texted
Speaker 1: them and I said, you know, I just was wondering
Speaker 1: if I go down on the dose. And I said,
Speaker 1: I just wondered also if there could be a doctor
Speaker 1: that maybe came in at the end and said like
Speaker 1: that went well or didn't go well. And they were like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't get a hold of you or not. Your
Speaker 1: doctor's gonna probably won't be able to call you back.
Speaker 1: But then one of the guy on the text and said,
Speaker 1: we talked to some doctor I've never heard of or met.
Speaker 1: We talked to somebody somebody, and we're gonna stay at
Speaker 1: the same dose. And then she wrote, we got you
Speaker 1: exclamation point exclamation.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: What kind of medical.
Speaker 2: Twenty five baby?
Speaker 3: This is?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I mean, all of it is
Speaker 1: because they are on a bare bones budget. A corporation
Speaker 1: owns this. This organization is is like, you know, why
Speaker 1: can't we like shift the front desk person to be
Speaker 1: the shaman, like, what's the problems? Like you just tell
Speaker 1: them they have to they'll do the best they can.
Speaker 2: It's a great idea in theory, but it's also becoming
Speaker 2: legal and operational as America is taken over by private
Speaker 2: equity whose whose job is Like what if one person
Speaker 2: did the job of ten people?
Speaker 5: And well, that's yeah, that's the drug we all need.
Speaker 5: The drug we need is revolution that dismantles capitalism and
Speaker 5: all the other oppressive structures. If we all just take
Speaker 5: that drug, a lot of our problems.
Speaker 1: Will gets me out of bed. Caitlin, I'll meet you.
Speaker 1: I'll meet you on the corner of Pico and Lebrea.
Speaker 1: If that's a real corner.
Speaker 2: I can't I can ever remember if they're like the
Speaker 2: ones that run parallel or not.
Speaker 1: But let's not get too early, though, Like let's meet
Speaker 1: it like eleven thirty, Oh.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, okay, all right, what a journey please? The
Speaker 2: cole Brew got me like.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good. I gotta say good, don't I
Speaker 1: don't you know? I mean to keep with it, and
Speaker 1: I because I'm hopeful. I mean, I am fed up
Speaker 1: with SSRIs, I'm fed up with the side effects from
Speaker 1: them and if I can, if there's any way to
Speaker 1: get out of it. If I don't, if I have
Speaker 1: to live on zoll Off for the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: I can do it. I've done it for a long time.
Speaker 1: But I would like to try, you know, see if
Speaker 1: I can do better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, let's take a quick break. We'll plan
Speaker 2: the revolution real quick, and we'll be back. And we're back.
Speaker 2: What Chris is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: Underrated? I would say, I can't remember what my idea
Speaker 1: was for this. It was gonna be. I think it
Speaker 1: was gonna be that it was my audiobook was underrated again,
Speaker 1: just so I can promote it. It's done. The Advice
Speaker 1: King anthology is.
Speaker 2: Done, and the audiobook is done.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and it took forever. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how anyone records an audiobook except to use AI because
Speaker 1: you have to have someone who can donate fifty hours
Speaker 1: of high quality studio time, which is the equivalent of
Speaker 1: making like fourteen indie rock records, right.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how that, you know, Like the
Speaker 1: budget is like I don't even know have the budget
Speaker 1: of an indie rock band for this thing. So anyway,
Speaker 1: but it's done, and so that's underrated only because it's
Speaker 1: not even out yet, but also I need people to
Speaker 1: buy it because it's like ten it's gonna be ten bucks.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. It's like three and a half hours of
Speaker 1: me doing stand up basically, I mean, I can't read
Speaker 1: these columns without getting and my mom does the interaction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just well, I'm just performing the columns
Speaker 1: like because they're like a lot of them are just
Speaker 1: straight up stand up except written, and so I had to.
Speaker 1: That's why it's it's gonna be fun. It's like a
Speaker 1: comedy album and it's got some like serious stuff in
Speaker 1: it about depression and things like that, but it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. And my mom does
Speaker 1: the introduction because Racy Moore, who wrote the introduction, she's
Speaker 1: a journalist out in Los Angeles. She couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, how great I am or what
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a nice it's the introduction to
Speaker 1: the book, like you know. So I was like, who
Speaker 1: would be good at reading something about me that's like
Speaker 1: really positive? And so I got my mom, who's eighty three,
Speaker 1: and she was so psyched to be in the studio
Speaker 1: and everything.
Speaker 2: And she, oh, that's great.
Speaker 1: She she rehearsed by reading. She's like, I need the
Speaker 1: book and I was like, I don't have a copy
Speaker 1: of it. She's like, I need the book to practice.
Speaker 1: So she was reading like obituaries out loud to the
Speaker 1: newspaper just.
Speaker 2: To get her Yeah, that's how I get ready for
Speaker 2: the show every day.
Speaker 1: I never I never practiced anything in my life. So
Speaker 1: I was just like blown away.
Speaker 2: What, Chris, what some of you thinks overrated?
Speaker 1: Overrated? Is this any news media right now that is
Speaker 1: covering any cable news Every single bit of it should
Speaker 1: be should be thrown out the window. I mean everybody
Speaker 1: knows that, but especially now because I'm so tired of
Speaker 1: hearing about how these tech guys Muskin Zuckerberg and there's
Speaker 1: a small list everybody knows of my guess, Larry Ellison
Speaker 1: and Peter Tiel and all and and uh, you know
Speaker 1: they they're not They say, oh, they've accrued as much
Speaker 1: wealth as during the Gilded Age, or like, we haven't
Speaker 1: seen this much wealth. But this isn't a matter of wealth.
Speaker 1: This is a matter of power. And they keep discussing
Speaker 1: this without without mentioning. The richest person in the world
Speaker 1: didn't own the news, the richest person in the world
Speaker 1: didn't couldn't meddle in government affairs in Me and mar
Speaker 1: by shutting off or turning on Spacebook. These people have
Speaker 1: power unparalleled in human history. These people are kings of
Speaker 1: the whole globe. There wasn't even an inter connected globe
Speaker 1: until thirty years ago. So the idea that they keep
Speaker 1: getting discussed, well, it's getting really bad, getting really bad.
Speaker 1: Talking about this in terms of money misses it. This
Speaker 1: is power on levels that have never been seen before.
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of hearing it being discussed in comparison
Speaker 1: to the Gilded Age, when all you could be was
Speaker 1: like the meanest guy on the block, and you could
Speaker 1: have the biggest tower and stand around in it and
Speaker 1: be mean to your you know, immediate surroundings. But you
Speaker 1: couldn't like try and overthrow the government of England with tweets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you just couldn't think you could yell at
Speaker 1: stable boys. That was what the old.
Speaker 2: Their stable boys.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, I'm not I'm not listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that was okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Biden coming through at the end of his thing
Speaker 2: and being like, guys, some of these tech oligarchs are
Speaker 2: bad news.
Speaker 1: I think I'm glad you brought that up. I can't
Speaker 1: even I can't even process that after anyone process.
Speaker 2: That after like a record, and I'm like, I think
Speaker 2: there was one person with one hundred and fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars before he started, and now there's like eight of these.
Speaker 1: He even raised the corporate tax right when he was
Speaker 1: in office.
Speaker 2: No, I did nothing but.
Speaker 1: The I mean, yeah, I mean, how's anyone And then
Speaker 1: we're not talking about the fires. You know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys have talked about it to death and you're
Speaker 1: also living through it, and I'm I'm so sorry. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. It's so horrible. Yeah, and on top of
Speaker 1: all that ship to have a guy saying stuff like that,
Speaker 1: who's the president of the United States. I mean, how
Speaker 1: much can people take? If that's what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like these, these these giant megaphones need to be turned
Speaker 1: off or we're never gonna be okay again. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna ever be okay again unless we turn these fucking
Speaker 1: things off. I remember there was a Hunter Thompson's fear
Speaker 1: and loathing in Las Vegas. He had a funny passage.
Speaker 1: I never forgot where he was saying. There was a
Speaker 1: machine on the Vegas Strip where for five dollars they
Speaker 1: could they would project you like one hundred feet tall
Speaker 1: on the side of a building and you could yell
Speaker 1: anything you wanted at Las Vegas. And he was saying this,
Speaker 1: he was saying, how insane that.
Speaker 2: Was, How so he was of taking drugs and then
Speaker 2: seeing like some random person.
Speaker 1: Let random people scream at a whole city.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I mean, we have we have
Speaker 2: you know, that's to take innovation of the past fifty years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's just.
Speaker 1: That's what's over overrated, is talking about things in content
Speaker 1: in ways that are not only I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're obfuscating, if are these people are too in the
Speaker 1: system to even understand. Oh it is either just as
Speaker 1: wealthy as the as the Gilded Age. I mean they
Speaker 1: can have as many carriages as they want. I mean
Speaker 1: they can have you know, like, that's not what's happening anyway.
Speaker 1: That's that's all just occurred to me.
Speaker 2: It's just I just found out about this today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's not comparable to any guilded age.
Speaker 2: It's not. And they're richer than anybody in the guilded
Speaker 2: age guild a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And I but they keep saying that, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and they're like, yeah, that's not that
Speaker 1: much different than the good that you know, we'll be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and that's the message that you're supposed to calm
Speaker 1: the fuck down really ultimately, yeah, and I it's making
Speaker 1: everybody insane.
Speaker 2: It has been just interested like that is the thing
Speaker 2: from Red Note that I keep seeing people, you know,
Speaker 2: so Red Note is interesting to me, like this new
Speaker 2: social media app where people are like going as an
Speaker 2: act of rebellion because of the cancelation of TikTok, and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh shit, we actually can like talk and
Speaker 2: speak to Chinese people who've been like cut off for
Speaker 2: us from us for decades, Like what are they like?
Speaker 2: What are they into? And they're all just like Luigi
Speaker 2: Mangioni fucking rules is what is like the the number
Speaker 2: one most popular meme on social media. It's just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's that's the most popular meme on on.
Speaker 2: Red Note, Like on Chinese social media, they like love
Speaker 2: Luigi MANGIONI that is weird, yeah, but I don't know
Speaker 2: like it. It just seems like there is this whole
Speaker 2: thing that's being massively missed, to your point by CNN, and.
Speaker 1: He's a multicultural phenomenon, like that guy's like universally considered hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is universally considered I mean that is like
Speaker 2: one of the explanations by someone was like, that's just
Speaker 2: because he looks good, Like the expert on Red Note
Speaker 2: is like, it's just because he's hot. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, Like there Miles had put the story in
Speaker 2: of like it's a sound clip from Sean Hannity's radio
Speaker 2: show where he's like talking about how rich billionaires, Like
Speaker 2: he's just shaming people for being fans of Luigi Mangione
Speaker 2: and for anyone talking like getting on board with taxing
Speaker 2: the wealthy. And I just I think there's a going
Speaker 2: to be this massive fucking uprising of like people at
Speaker 2: least like their sentiment being like this is a fucking disaster,
Speaker 2: Like what are you guys talking about? And I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's gonna look like necessarily, but
Speaker 2: it just seems like the disconnect is so profound and
Speaker 2: like I agree. Yeah, the Luigi Mangioni stuff is like,
Speaker 2: you know, gotten tamped down, you know, because there's not
Speaker 2: like new news coming out because he he just like
Speaker 2: makes made like two appearances over the course of the
Speaker 2: past three months, and every time he does social media
Speaker 2: is like yeah, fuck, I.
Speaker 1: Can't wait till he's on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: I know, right, masked singer. Yeah, there's that moment over
Speaker 2: a break where like Colin just mentioned his name and
Speaker 2: the crowd like started cheering and he was like, you
Speaker 2: guys are cheering for justice, right, Like you're cheering because
Speaker 2: he got caught, And like I he was joking. But
Speaker 2: like I I don't know, there's just such a weird
Speaker 2: thing happening with like the complete disconnect.
Speaker 1: There's a tipping point and and and I think the
Speaker 1: Uyres in Los Angeles, even though first and foremost they're
Speaker 1: just a tragedy, Yeah, but they affected. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for the wealthy who were affected
Speaker 1: to say the Palisades, A lot of the very uber
Speaker 1: wealthy in the Palisades to feel like they don't need
Speaker 1: social services. If a lot of those Palisades people sadly well,
Speaker 1: all rich people everywhere voted for Trump because they don't
Speaker 1: want to pay taxes. But then when you're starting to
Speaker 1: question where the water was and where the helicopters are
Speaker 1: and those sorts of questions, you start to understand, Wow,
Speaker 1: we just voted for a guy who has vowed to
Speaker 1: cut more help, cut the helicopter, get less helicopters, to
Speaker 1: get less fire firemen, fire people. You know that that
Speaker 1: is we're really I think the collision of those two
Speaker 1: things is like, I mean, the Pacific Palisades is like
Speaker 1: not a place people you can really I've been there.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it feels like otherworldly. It feels untouchable, right
Speaker 1: and and and it's you know, it's like these narratives
Speaker 1: that we believe in, like that somehow life is this
Speaker 1: thing to win, and you know, it's like but the
Speaker 1: but the point is that I think even rich people
Speaker 1: are starting to smell a rat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or they're like making up like the the articles
Speaker 2: I'm seeing covering like rich people's responses, like this guy
Speaker 2: hunkered down with like a gun and a fire hose
Speaker 2: and he's protecting his house himself, and yeah, he blames
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, like that's kind of how they've figured out
Speaker 2: their way to like justify what they previously believed and
Speaker 2: also blame it on unhoused people that they claim are
Speaker 2: lighting the fires, which, yeah, it's I've been I've come
Speaker 2: out of the fires and like the misinformation shit storm,
Speaker 2: like kind of less hopeful or I don't know, more
Speaker 2: certain that something needs to be done about fucking social media.
Speaker 2: But feels like the wrong time for that sentiment. I
Speaker 2: do just want to read this quote from Sean Hannity
Speaker 2: because it's like kind of a good example of the
Speaker 2: type of shit you're talking about. Is he said. I
Speaker 2: even heard some Trump supporters say they want to soak
Speaker 2: the rich. You sound like Bernie Sanders, you want to
Speaker 2: soak the rich. When I didn't have any money, I
Speaker 2: was a contractor. I never got hired by a poor person.
Speaker 2: In my ten years in the restaurant business. I never
Speaker 2: got a tip from a poor person, which absolute fucking bullshit.
Speaker 1: That's wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I want to thriving economy where Americans have
Speaker 2: high paying career jobs and you got to focus on
Speaker 2: the basics. But yeah, so complete definitely did not work
Speaker 2: as a tip based employee in the service industry, because
Speaker 2: then he would know that rich people are the fucking
Speaker 2: worst tippers in the world.
Speaker 1: I've waited on billionaires before. I think it's funny because
Speaker 1: they actually the two that I waited on tip twenty
Speaker 1: percent exactly, and they acted like they were so like
Speaker 1: they're we're not monsters.
Speaker 2: I'm a job creed dear god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tip less than poor people. They're I mean,
Speaker 1: just like, oh, twenty percent, buddy, you should be giving
Speaker 1: me a million dollars if you're a millionaire.
Speaker 5: And they won't even miss it.
Speaker 1: They won't even know. This is so funny. They're like,
Speaker 1: here's your twenty percent. See, yeah there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah see you thought I was gonna tip be like nothing.
Speaker 2: It's like so like with shit like that being put
Speaker 2: out there from the mainstream media and like the new administration,
Speaker 2: I'm like part of me is like, is how are
Speaker 2: people going to react because that they're they're rejecting that
Speaker 2: sort of bullshit at this point, the sort of like
Speaker 2: all right, Bernie Sanders, you want to soak the rich,
Speaker 2: get on out of here, or you know, Ben Shapiro
Speaker 2: coming out and being like the radical left is supporting
Speaker 2: Luigi Mangioni and like all of his listeners being like, uh,
Speaker 2: it's not just the radical left man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I think people look at the problem.
Speaker 1: The problem we have is that people are so used
Speaker 1: to looking at the television for for what, like what
Speaker 1: the score is, like you know, are people starting to
Speaker 1: wake up? You know? And the TV will never admit that,
Speaker 1: So then they're just like, I guess people aren't starting
Speaker 1: to wake up, you know, but everyone is. But it's
Speaker 1: just you just can't get validated. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: when I was in that room like freaking out on
Speaker 1: the ketamine and wanted somebody of authority to come in
Speaker 1: and say like this is okay, right, like you're right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like your right to be
Speaker 1: freaking out because this, that and the other thing. But
Speaker 1: we will never get that validation because the media is
Speaker 1: owned by these same people, so well we're never ever
Speaker 1: And it's really important in a culture that looks to
Speaker 1: TV for reality. It reminds me of Network Caitlin, do you.
Speaker 5: Watch you know I'm not gonna take it in one
Speaker 5: of my.
Speaker 1: Favorite movies, you know, and and you know, talked about
Speaker 1: all this stuff in nineteen seventy four. You know, and
Speaker 1: and and uh that line where Peter Finch is imploring
Speaker 1: the audience for his news show saying, we're the fake ones.
Speaker 1: You're real. You're the you think we're the real ones,
Speaker 1: and you're fake. That's how he's like, that's how fucked
Speaker 1: up this has gotten, is that you think we're real.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it's and it's just it's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that it just keep keeps going. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: stop looking at screens either, you know, it's not like
Speaker 1: I know how to stop.
Speaker 5: There's addictive. Is that highly processed food we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, uncrustables as addictive as a visual mouthfeel?
Speaker 5: Yeah that I feel, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, how's the I feel? Your apps?
Speaker 1: The Titanic has great I feel?
Speaker 5: Oh the movie Titanic, of course, yeah, I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: I know who's here.
Speaker 5: Wow, thanks, thanks for reading the room. Yeah. No, it's
Speaker 5: that's the thing, like the oligarchs who control the media
Speaker 5: and who control you know, all of our systems, they
Speaker 5: muld oh wow, so true, so true. Yeah, they're never
Speaker 5: gonna admit that people are acknowledging the class divide and
Speaker 5: uniting on that because they thrive on the right and
Speaker 5: the left fighting like all this just like arbitrary and
Speaker 5: not it's not all arbitrary because like you know, people
Speaker 5: on the right want trans people to die and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. But so you know, there's certainly justified disagreements
Speaker 5: on the political side of the side of the aisle,
Speaker 5: but we do need to unite from a class point
Speaker 5: of view. Then that's the revolution I'm talking about. So
Speaker 5: I'll see you on what did we say, the corner of.
Speaker 1: I'll see you on the corner of.
Speaker 5: They are those run parallel to each other.
Speaker 1: I'll meet you at Schwab's drug store.
Speaker 5: Ye'll see there.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take one more break and we'll be
Speaker 2: right back. And we're back and an R. I p
Speaker 2: to David Lynch, who passed away yesterday. He had emphysema,
Speaker 2: was completely isolated in recent years so that he wouldn't
Speaker 2: get more sick, but there was still hopes that he
Speaker 2: might direct a project remotely that you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what he was working on at the end, but
Speaker 2: very very sad news. He was a big smoker, big
Speaker 2: smoker who I did like respect. You know, his statement
Speaker 2: about how much he loved smoking when he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm dying now because of smoking. But and then just
Speaker 2: like wrote a like paragraph lung love letter to like smoking.
Speaker 1: Yeah part of the art, like.
Speaker 2: Smoke into his lungs and feeling it burned there and
Speaker 2: yeah I miss it. Yeah, it got that.
Speaker 1: It was part of the art life. And I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like the idea of an art life,
Speaker 1: you know, and also taking you know, like yeah, like
Speaker 1: we're all gonna die, like you can do something that's
Speaker 1: bad for you if you.
Speaker 2: Enjoy it, right, yeah, and he certainly did.
Speaker 5: And just the eating baby hamdbabies.
Speaker 2: Hand babies, I get those baby today.
Speaker 1: What's a ham baby? Like a baby that's in the
Speaker 1: in the cake in the in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: No, it's a ham. So you know how like when
Speaker 2: you go to the grocery store if you want to
Speaker 2: get like ham cold cuts, you, Yeah, they take a
Speaker 2: big they take a big hunk of ham. They call
Speaker 2: that a hand baby. They call that a large hamdbaby.
Speaker 1: Not in my not around no one on no, we
Speaker 1: we just discovered that on yesterday that it's horrific. No
Speaker 1: one should call anything a hand baby.
Speaker 2: And the Boars head line of like, you know, the
Speaker 2: conveyor belt of ham babies was getting clogged because too
Speaker 2: many defective ham babies were getting Like you want told off?
Speaker 1: Then you want to know why more people don't listen
Speaker 1: to my podcast because the joke that just crossed my
Speaker 1: mind is the only thing that should be called a
Speaker 1: hamdbaby is when the parents met communicating on ham radio.
Speaker 2: And that's good stuff, right, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's why my podcast is only for certain people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the original sexting is uh sexual kind over ham radio.
Speaker 7: I was wearing over over our tube top, all right,
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, So I don't know, there's just like good
Speaker 7: good stories about him.
Speaker 2: Also, like people I think, like I don't everybody knows
Speaker 2: who David Lynch is, right, he made Blue Velvet and
Speaker 2: Mulholland Drive we talked about recently because it is the
Speaker 2: moana Io of great films in that it started as
Speaker 2: a TV show and then people were like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: nobody's gonna watch this as a TV show, and so
Speaker 2: they edited it into like what is considered one of
Speaker 2: the best movies of the twenty first century. Mulholland Drive.
Speaker 2: Is that the one with the Laomi Wattson. It's the
Speaker 2: one the dumpster in the back of the yeah diner. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's and it has the street Mulholland Drive in it
Speaker 2: as the title.
Speaker 1: What's the what's that? You don't have to be that.
Speaker 2: Of Pico and thank you oh Man?
Speaker 1: So so that what's the movie with Robert the guy
Speaker 1: who may have murdered.
Speaker 2: His wife Robert Blake Lost Highway?
Speaker 1: That one's good too. Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 2: So people see his movies and they're like, this guy
Speaker 2: must be fucked up, this guy must be like a
Speaker 2: real dark person. And I just want to read this
Speaker 2: one interview from a reporter who visited the set of
Speaker 2: Blue Velvet, which was like his his movie that like
Speaker 2: was really kind of the mainstreaming of the David Lynch
Speaker 2: kind of esthetic and super dark and fucked up, and
Speaker 2: like when it came out, a lot of people were
Speaker 2: like reacted as if someone had committed a crime like.
Speaker 1: I saw when I was eighteen. I had no idea
Speaker 1: what the hell it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still hard to know exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: But it's a you know, a work of art, that's
Speaker 2: what that is. One thing we can say and not
Speaker 2: just because he smoked so many cigarettes making it. It's
Speaker 2: just unmistakably a vision of the country and the of
Speaker 2: one person. So somebody shows up. It's a movie with
Speaker 2: like fucking like just some brutal, horrible things happening. Ears
Speaker 2: and dirt. You know. It opens with somebody's like severenty
Speaker 2: ear and the dirt and anyways, someone comes out. They're like,
Speaker 2: all right, this guy's gonna be real fucked up, and
Speaker 2: found him riding around set on bicycles with streamers fluttering
Speaker 2: from the handlebars. His pockets full of peanut eminems like
Speaker 2: that detailcle pockets full of peanut eminems like bordering on
Speaker 2: like what are you doing that? Those are gonna melt
Speaker 2: and be Your hands must be like covered in like
Speaker 2: different colors candy coating all the time unless he just
Speaker 2: has the least sweaty hands of all time.
Speaker 1: Also, he's going to make He's going to make himself sick.
Speaker 2: Am I right? He The reporter said, David is a
Speaker 2: genuinely happy person, and this is one of the remarkable
Speaker 2: things about him. I've never met anyone as serene as
Speaker 2: he is. He's also a lifelong devotee to transcendental meditation, right,
Speaker 2: so I don't know, Caitlin, you're a film person. What
Speaker 2: are you Lynch?
Speaker 5: I have a master.
Speaker 2: You are a film master. I'm sorry, and the rest
Speaker 2: of us are film people. You are a film master.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of a master.
Speaker 2: What are you a fan of Lynch?
Speaker 5: I would say I'm not a fan. In fact, I
Speaker 5: tweeted something something to this effect a few years ago
Speaker 5: and absolutely got destroyed on the internet. But I don't
Speaker 5: regret it because I stand by what I said. But
Speaker 5: I mean, I I like Twin Peaks. I haven't seen
Speaker 5: the more recent season that, like, you know, when they
Speaker 5: kind of revitalized it, but I liked the original series
Speaker 5: and I enjoyed Elephant Man because he directed that too.
Speaker 2: Those is one like kind of mainstream.
Speaker 5: So I like his like more normy stuff, and that
Speaker 5: just speaks to my taste, I guess, because I don't
Speaker 5: know what the fuck muhalland Drive is about. I've seen
Speaker 5: it many times and I just get frustrated because I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm not smart enough for this. But then I'm also like, well,
Speaker 5: maybe the filmmaker it's not smart to so I'm dunking
Speaker 5: on David Lynch even post more. But either stuff of
Speaker 5: his I liked. I'm sure I didn't finish his dune,
Speaker 5: but it seemed wacky and fun, so I might go
Speaker 5: back and watch it.
Speaker 2: I dkay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Also, I would imagine as a woman
Speaker 1: would probably be sick of hearing about David Lynch from dudes.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what my tweet was about. I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm really I really resent. It was something like I
Speaker 5: resent like all the I don't know if I like
Speaker 5: made a gender specific and said like all the men
Speaker 5: or just like all the people who spent years trying
Speaker 5: to convince me that David Lynch was any good. So
Speaker 5: it was like a really bitchy tweet. I'll admit it,
Speaker 5: but listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll tell you this guy happens the men too, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a certain type of man will confront
Speaker 1: you and be like have you seen the latest Lynch?
Speaker 2: You know, and you're like.
Speaker 5: I had. I shall not name names, but there was
Speaker 5: a man comedian who I know who like got furious
Speaker 5: with me to the fact that to the point where
Speaker 5: he was like yelling at me because I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not that big of a David Lynch fan, and
Speaker 5: he got so like viscerally angry about that. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: so I'm like, Okay, calm down, everybody. But I'm sure
Speaker 5: he was a very nice person. And I love the
Speaker 5: image of him riding around on a bicycle with streamers
Speaker 5: from the handlebars and eminem's in his pockets. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his documentary about the documentary about him, where
Speaker 1: they're showing him like booking, Like there's one where he's
Speaker 1: making phone calls and he gets like some celebrity to
Speaker 1: be in his movie and he's like.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he's like a star stuck too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's a lot of charming things about him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I definitely have been cornered at parties and
Speaker 1: like grilled about David Lynch by like dudes who are
Speaker 1: trying to prove they were smart and it's going yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I told one guy I watched The New I remember
Speaker 1: I was at this party. It was kind of like
Speaker 1: a fancier party than I would usually be invited to
Speaker 1: in in Los Angeles, And and there was a guy
Speaker 1: who's a director, like that's what people were saying he was,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what he directed, but he you know,
Speaker 1: he certainly wasn't like a director i'd ever heard of,
Speaker 1: but he was like had a bunch of tattoos, you know,
Speaker 1: And he was just like, have you seen the new
Speaker 1: twin Peaks? And it had just come out and I
Speaker 1: was like yes, and he was like, you saw it,
Speaker 1: He's like the whole thing. I was like, he's like
Speaker 1: the whole thing because he had seen the whole thing,
Speaker 1: you know. But he was like he thought he'd gotten
Speaker 1: the jump on I guess humanity. And I was like, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: go to it, and he just like didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk to me anymore because I think he knew I.
Speaker 2: Was lying right all right.
Speaker 1: I did eventually watch that, but I did had not then,
Speaker 1: and I just did not want to get into what
Speaker 1: was going to happen if I said no, I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't even imagine what would happened next.
Speaker 2: Well, Chris, it's wonderful having you as always on the day.
Speaker 2: Get where can people find you? Follow you, hear you
Speaker 2: all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, I got a couple of good things to promote.
Speaker 1: The audio books not out, but I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say I get, I get. I have a pretty good
Speaker 1: deal with Vanderbilt University with that thing. So if people
Speaker 1: buy it, I get kind of a good chunk of it,
Speaker 1: as opposed to the book, which I don't get a
Speaker 1: good chunk of. But the audio book. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: if people knew how much money you make off of
Speaker 1: a book, Holy God, Holy hell. Anyway, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: in Chicago this coming week on Wednesday at a studio
Speaker 1: in it you can look on my it's like a
Speaker 1: secret show in like someone's music studio. It's but they
Speaker 1: have regular shows there. It's like a thirty six seat place,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing a show with Kristen Toomey. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read my book like probably to stand up and then
Speaker 1: play a couple songs. And that's Wednesday in Logan Square area,
Speaker 1: and you can get the specifics from my Instagram at
Speaker 1: the Crafton show. And then Friday, I'm gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a set at the Lincoln Lodge Friday eight pm show,
Speaker 1: which is supposed to be a really fantastic show up there.
Speaker 1: And just to shout out to Kristen Toomey, who was
Speaker 1: kind of like helping me out with all this, and
Speaker 1: she's you guys, will if I mentioned her before, she
Speaker 1: would be such a great fit for Daily ze Geist.
Speaker 1: You guys would love her, and she's huge in Chicago.
Speaker 1: She's just like, I don't know. I'm totally intimidated. She's
Speaker 1: gonna kick my ass.
Speaker 2: You up. I already told her.
Speaker 1: She's like, it's not a competition. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Great. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh?
Speaker 1: I forgot to do that one. Can you guys go first?
Speaker 1: I always forget to do that one.
Speaker 2: That's good. Where can people find you? Is there work
Speaker 2: a media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 5: You can find me follow me on Instagram at Caitlin Toronte.
Speaker 5: You can go to my website. There's information about what's
Speaker 5: it called the classes I teach. Sorry my brain, you're
Speaker 5: witnessing its collapse in real time. Thank you Caitlyn University
Speaker 5: where you can take take my screenwriting classes. I oh,
Speaker 5: there are live Bechdel cast shows coming up. There was
Speaker 5: one in La on January nineteenth that we have pushed
Speaker 5: back because of safety concerns because of the fire and
Speaker 5: the air quality. So that is rescheduled for March second.
Speaker 5: And that is not only a live show in La
Speaker 5: at Dynasty Hypewriter on March second at seven thirty. But
Speaker 5: it's also being live streamed, so if you live anywhere
Speaker 5: in the world you can still catch it if you
Speaker 5: buy a live stream ticket. So that's that one, and
Speaker 5: then our other shows are still happening as planned. One
Speaker 5: in San Francisco for Sketch Fest on January twenty third.
Speaker 5: That's a show on Titanic of course, of course, and then.
Speaker 2: Find with Titanic by Titanic.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, with Titanic for Titanic. I have announced that
Speaker 5: if that show sells out, I will get naked so
Speaker 5: that Jamie can draw me like one of her French girls.
Speaker 5: It's not very close to selling out, so I really
Speaker 5: need well it's not that I want to get naked
Speaker 5: right on stage, but I will do it just for
Speaker 5: for the laugh and for the story.
Speaker 2: But what I really want for the drawing.
Speaker 5: And then I'll auction it off and you know, donate
Speaker 5: the money to a good cause. But what was I
Speaker 5: going to say, buy ticket to the show please? Is
Speaker 5: the point? And then finally we have a show in
Speaker 5: Portland on January twenty sixth, and that is a show
Speaker 5: on Shrek. I will not be getting naked during the
Speaker 5: Shrek Show.
Speaker 2: Fair.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: That is fair.
Speaker 1: I got my I gotta work media just real quickly
Speaker 1: because I don't have one Donald boat, that laser boat.
Speaker 1: The main problem is I think I'm Eric Cartman therapist.
Speaker 1: Let's examine this me. I mean, I just feel like
Speaker 1: Eric Cartman in this bitch sometimes therapist. I'd like to
Speaker 1: pry into this for just a moment. Me Like I
Speaker 1: walk into rooms and I think, damn, I'm stepping like
Speaker 1: Eric Cartman. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's it seems like a real exchange. I love it.
Speaker 2: Work of social media I've been enjoying is from there's
Speaker 2: a clip from Carly Leopard l e c a r
Speaker 2: l y l e p a r D of somebody
Speaker 2: just being like a real debonair person in a hot
Speaker 2: tub in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. That I feel like, Chris,
Speaker 2: you would really enjoy this. So that's my recommendation. I'll
Speaker 2: send the link to you. I just found it because
Speaker 2: somebody said that they found their soulmate and it is
Speaker 2: this person. But that's right up the street Pigeon Porge. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: It's like a place you could buy, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a tourist. It's like a Gatlinburg where Dollywood is,
Speaker 1: but one I forgot. I have a show Sunday too
Speaker 1: in Kirksville, Missouri at Aorda, which is some kind of
Speaker 1: performance space, and they Zeygang people asked me if I
Speaker 1: wanted to do a show up there. So that's what
Speaker 1: I'm doing on the website.
Speaker 2: Yeah, enjoy that. I'm excited at that pipe and smoke
Speaker 2: at Missouri.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, don't look at the map before
Speaker 1: I say yes to things though it's like seven and
Speaker 1: a half hours. Yeah, yeah, America and I have nothing
Speaker 1: in between, you know, I have no snow halfway point
Speaker 1: show or anything. I'm just like, yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: How far could Missouri be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been enjoying a workimedia. I've been enjoying. Harrison
Speaker 2: Wine Red tweeted, tell me again how having an entire
Speaker 2: room dedicated to pissing and shitting is more practical than a.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's surprisingly good if.
Speaker 2: You're so smart when you explain that to me. Can
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Speaker 2: the episode description of wherever you're listening to this, you
Speaker 2: can just look at it and you can see the
Speaker 2: links to the sources, and we also in that area
Speaker 2: we link off to the sources of the information we
Speaker 2: talked about. We also link off to a song that
Speaker 2: we think you might enjoy. Miles is out but super
Speaker 2: producer justin really good at this. Is there a song
Speaker 2: that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So there's this group I've really been digging called
Speaker 8: Secret Night Gang out of Manchester, UK, and they like
Speaker 8: to mix American R and B soul and views that
Speaker 8: with jazz and some gospel elements and it's just a
Speaker 8: great composition of things coming together, great musicianship. And this
Speaker 8: track starts off with smooth and like relaxed elements and
Speaker 8: then builds into this absolute rock jam and then recedes
Speaker 8: back into smooth jazz again and it's called the Sun
Speaker 8: And you can find this song in the footnotes that
Speaker 8: again is Secret Night Gang.
Speaker 2: Secret Night Gang cool. The song is called the Sun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: A lot of their songs are about the daytime in
Speaker 8: the sun. And then they actually met during like a
Speaker 8: music class and secretly they started like making their recordings
Speaker 8: at night. Yeah, and they started writing songs about you know,
Speaker 8: the daytime and the sun and stuff and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, all right. Well, we will link off to
Speaker 2: that in the footnotes to Daily Zeit guys are production
Speaker 2: of my Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio,
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Speaker 2: listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it
Speaker 2: for us this week. We are back on Monday to
Speaker 2: tell you what is trending, what trended, what happened over
Speaker 2: the weekend. And we also have a episode that recaps
Speaker 2: cuts together some of the highlights from this week that
Speaker 2: drops tomorrow, so you can check all that stuff out.
Speaker 2: We hope you have a great weekend. Thanks again everybody
Speaker 2: who for reaching out supporting Miles and his family. He
Speaker 2: I think is going to be back fairly soon, but yeah,
Speaker 2: appreciate all of the support and love coming from the listeners,
Speaker 2: and we will talk to you all on Monday. Bye.
Speaker 2: Nice so much