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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been thinking about this interview last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: They told me I get Philip Rivers, who was so

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Speaker 1: animated as a player, first round pick by the Giants,

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Speaker 1: traded for Eli Manning on draft day, and they both

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Speaker 1: end up having absolutely remarkable careers. He is now the

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Speaker 1: football coach and has been for several years in Alabama

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Speaker 1: Saint Michael Catholic. His son now is the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: a good one. Philip Rivers is now joining US live today.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta tell the audience, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: your son play, but his name is Gunner Rivers, and

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, that's a franchise quarterback name.

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Speaker 1: I would draft him sight unseen on that, just on

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Speaker 1: the name. Now, you were a trash talker and you

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Speaker 1: had a different delivery. Does he have your kind of sight,

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Speaker 1: arm delivery. Is he a little trash talker?

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Speaker 2: Does he?

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Speaker 3: Does?

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Speaker 1: He have some of the Philip Rivers classic traits.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Colin, how's it going?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, he uh, he definitely. Uh, he definitely has some

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Speaker 6: of the same traits.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He's a little more traditional throwing the football.

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Speaker 6: Than than I than I was. But a lot of

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Speaker 6: people see him throw and go, dang, you throw just

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Speaker 6: like your dad. So he has a little bit of that.

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Speaker 6: I guess it's just genetic.

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Speaker 4: Uh. And then he's a little more reserved than I am.

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Speaker 6: He has the fire and passion for the game, but

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Speaker 6: I think he's got his mom's calmness, which which will

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Speaker 1: I think everybody, very few people had your intensity on

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Speaker 7: You know what's amazing.

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Speaker 1: You were a trash talker, but players, even opponents loved you.

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Speaker 1: Did you think your intensity you're obviously talented. Did you

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Speaker 4: It was probably one of them. I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: I had to. I had to.

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Speaker 6: I had to a little bit toe the line. I

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Speaker 6: I think there's a there's a there's a you know,

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Speaker 4: So I'm sure that I didn't always keep that in check.

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Speaker 6: But I do think that the passion and the fire

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Speaker 6: And then you mentioned our opponents, and I hope, I

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Speaker 6: hope you know you gained You obviously gained respect of

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Speaker 6: Uh So, maybe not early on, but I think as

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Speaker 4: And that's really all I was.

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Speaker 6: There's a guy playing football in the backyard, and I

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Speaker 6: just never let that leave me, although we were playing,

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Speaker 1: You know, the you told me one time, and I've

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Speaker 1: used this whenever I give a speech, I always say,

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Speaker 1: the great Philip Rivers told me he liked the process

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Speaker 1: And can you instill that in your son or a

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Speaker 1: given an innate that you loved practice? Can you tee

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Speaker 6: I do think that there was a some of that

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Speaker 6: I mean, those things were so fun to work on

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Speaker 4: But it was the but the behind the.

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Speaker 6: Scenes preparations, you know, and it's those those the Saturday

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Speaker 4: I certainly love to play.

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Speaker 6: I loved the games and running out of the tunnel

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Speaker 6: and all those things that I used to ask my

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Speaker 6: out and we're playing soever, you know, whoever, and they

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Speaker 6: you know, getting introduced. So I love that part I'll

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Speaker 6: be clear on that, but it was the process that

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Speaker 6: just don't know how you play quarterback and don't are

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Speaker 6: all in on the process if you're trying to be

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Speaker 1: You know, it's I have said this one of the things.

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Speaker 1: I do think you can become more accurate with coaching.

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Speaker 1: I think your footwork can improve with coaching. But there

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Speaker 1: is one thing that I just think is innate. Certain

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks Mahomes, you could see this instantly. Patrick can see

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know if they I don't

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Speaker 7: There and I know there's a film study.

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Speaker 1: Did you get Did you always have that because you

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Speaker 1: were a good high school college coach the ability to

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Speaker 1: And I've heard this set about you, and I've heard

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Speaker 1: staring at it. The great quarterbacks have this innate ability.

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Speaker 1: They just there's a rhythm to the secondary. And I

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Speaker 1: guess my question is, are there can you teach that

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Speaker 1: you had an innate feel for the position? Are there

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Speaker 1: some things Philip that aren't teachable?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think yes.

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Speaker 6: I mean I think there's certain things and talents that

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Speaker 6: so many guys have and so many different positions that

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Speaker 6: are God given ability. And you can, like you said,

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Speaker 6: I agree hundred percent. You know, we got to clamp

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Speaker 6: some footwork, we gotta cleamp some fundamentals. We can clean

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Speaker 6: up how you're reading this, or maybe your eyes are

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Speaker 6: just in the wrong place. But there are some things,

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Speaker 6: you know, accuracy, anticipation and to be able to see

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Speaker 6: it all in process it fast. Definitely you can improve it,

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Speaker 6: but you're probably in a window. You know, someone that

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Speaker 6: Someone that's pretty dang good at it. Maybe you can

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Speaker 4: It, but you can't. I don't think you can.

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Speaker 6: There's there's certain parts of playing the position that you

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Speaker 6: can't make vast improvements. And some guys like you mentioned Mahomes,

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Speaker 6: and you know, we could go on and on of

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Speaker 6: talking about guys there are at a certain level already

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Speaker 6: that they are able to process and do those things

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Speaker 6: But he was already, you know, pretty dang elite at it.

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Speaker 4: So I do agree. I do agree with you on

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's funny because and everybody has their process.

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Speaker 6: You know, me and Drew were teammates. We got to

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Speaker 6: not to mention this about Drew, but just we all

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Speaker 6: have our different routines. But uh, I used to I

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Speaker 6: coming off the field. Now I would go look at

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Speaker 6: or Dane, maybe they fooled me. I need to go

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Speaker 6: see it. But a lot of times, you know, it

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Speaker 6: was kind of a running joke. I'd say, I saw

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Speaker 3: Crap.

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Speaker 6: I know I should have gone the other way, you know,

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Speaker 6: so and again, and that was in an arrogant way.

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Speaker 6: It was just I saw live, you know, And so

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Speaker 6: certainly I use those tools as needed over there. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: there is definitely some of that. And and I say

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Speaker 6: it in humility because shoot, I threw it to the

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Speaker 4: So I certainly all right decisions.

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Speaker 6: But I feel like I did have that ability to

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Speaker 6: see it and process it quickly and throw with anticipation

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Speaker 6: and be acturate.

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Speaker 1: So I have this. I wrote about this in my

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Speaker 7: That there's an argument to be made.

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Speaker 7: You're getting hit, the windows are small.

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Speaker 1: These USC guys are throwing to wide, open wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: It eighteen times. I threw a hundred.

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Speaker 6: I threw one hundred passes in my first two games

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Speaker 2: You know, so but then you but you're right though.

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Speaker 6: You at the NFL, and I was in my first

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Speaker 6: And you know, uh, I definitely think there's something to

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Speaker 4: You have to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Antonio Gates makes the Hall of Fame speaking

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Speaker 7: Like you knew?

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Speaker 1: How long did it take for you to identify whoa

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Speaker 1: People can't guard him. He's too big for linebackers, he's

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Speaker 7: How long did it take?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 6: I mean I was in my rookie year and I

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Speaker 4: And it was just that over wrote that, that over you.

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Speaker 6: But he uh, he had a unique ability to he

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Speaker 6: I you know, he was always considered this basketball guy,

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Speaker 6: And where's the help and what? And once he learned that,

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Speaker 1: So finally your son, Gunner Rivers is is and you

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Speaker 7: Is there is there anything you're just thinking?

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Speaker 6: The game has just changed so much. You know, you

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Speaker 4: And all this when we're in California when he was

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Speaker 6: You know, so you're getting you're getting to practice that

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, it's it's it's been fun.

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Speaker 6: It's fun to it's fun to coach him and his

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Speaker 1: Well, you're a class guy, one of my favorite players

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Speaker 7: That is a lot of starts. Was there ever?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have a game day when you just

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have? I mean, you obviously were not

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Speaker 4: I really was.

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Speaker 6: But there were certain sundays that weren't real fun physically,

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Speaker 6: There was the one record that was one of my

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Speaker 4: Brett far As record. I'm gonna get there.

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Speaker 6: And I didn't play those first two years, as I

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Speaker 6: I do think there's a you know, the best ability,

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Speaker 6: that was one thing I was gonna be I was

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Speaker 4: I was gonna be out there every week. I was

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Speaker 6: And shoot, I know we fell short plenty of times,

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Speaker 1: Well, my favorite interview in a long time Philip absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Saint Michael Catholic High School in Alabama. He took over

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Speaker 1: first playoff game last year. Congratulations to you and your

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Speaker 7: Thanks man, Thanks Golling.

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Speaker 4: Enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Philip rivers, great stories. Just a impressive guy like that.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy like there's a guy that He had

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Speaker 1: some offensive lines that were a bit dubious. He took

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Speaker 1: a few hits in his day and was always there.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and forty consecutive starts in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: News around the corner.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: All Right, Joe Thomas and Philip Rivers. That's always a

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Speaker 1: good day. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 7: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herd Line News, all right.

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Speaker 8: Rams fans Collins are kind of panicking about this Matt

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Speaker 8: Stafford back situation. Previously, he was labeled week to week,

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Speaker 8: which that's not good.

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Speaker 7: Especially in August.

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Speaker 8: But reports today say Stafford is progressing to doing on

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Speaker 8: field work. He got an epidural in his back a

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Speaker 8: few weeks ago, and the Rams have tried to give

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Speaker 8: him time to let his back. Heel on his own,

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Speaker 8: and that means he's hanging out out and about in

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Speaker 8: let's say, the South Bay out here in LA. But

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Speaker 8: I'm of the belief he's going to be fine week one.

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Speaker 8: This is just an old vet getting a lot of rest.

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Speaker 8: I would not panic over this backstuff.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's a thing at all. I mean,

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Speaker 7: they've got.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that took some hits and

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Speaker 1: he's also and we've noted this, he's the last old

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league that will stand in the pocket

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Speaker 1: to the very end and take a helmet to the teeth.

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Speaker 1: But what about Osmond, Dude, he has Aaron Rodgers since

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Speaker 1: I think is twenty twenty two averages fewer big plays

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Speaker 1: twenty plus plays than Derek Carr. Oh yeah, Aaron is

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Speaker 1: done getting hit. He will not sit in there. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'd probably be more air than Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him, but Matt's gonna stand there and

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Speaker 1: take a hit to the very end. Tom Brady at

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Speaker 1: the end was practicing getting sacked. Aaron doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: get hit. Eli didn't want to get hit, and they're

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. Stafford will get hit, so it punitives those

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Speaker 1: hits have added up.

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Speaker 8: It is interesting the narrative surrounding these two old players. Here.

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Speaker 8: Stafford is ascending, wins the Super Bowl, projected to it

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Speaker 8: a super Bowl no look passes. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers has

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Speaker 8: been an unmitigated disaster since forcing his way out of

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Speaker 8: Green Bay. Obviously there was the injury, but I'll there

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Speaker 8: right now Stafford gets back to another Super Bowl, We're

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Speaker 8: gonna be talking. I guarantee you Super Bowl week. Well,

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Speaker 8: Stafford had a better career than Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I've been playing to get that high school college early

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Speaker 1: pro late pro.

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Speaker 7: Stafford's better now.

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Speaker 1: Now, was there a nine year period in the middle

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Speaker 1: when Aaron, with a really good organization and always having

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Speaker 1: good offensive lines, was better than Stafford in Detroit?

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Speaker 7: Yes, but this.

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Speaker 1: Goes back to something we talked about earlier. If you're great, great,

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Speaker 1: we'll find you. Sean McVay found a quarterback and a

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Speaker 1: losing franchise who kept losing and said that is special.

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's justice, Like this guy deserved finally

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Speaker 1: to get a great coach.

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Speaker 7: He was just too talented.

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Speaker 1: Tony John Elway was eventually gonna find his magical coach,

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Speaker 1: and he got it with Shanahan.

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Speaker 7: Certainly, let's move on to Drake May.

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Speaker 8: The hype continues to build for the second year QB

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Speaker 8: in New England. He's been getting comparisons to Josh Allen,

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Speaker 8: the reigning MVP.

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Speaker 7: Here's May responding to that compliment.

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Speaker 4: He's the MVP.

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Speaker 3: I think the comparisons are I got a lot of

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Speaker 3: work to do, you know, with kind of even give

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Speaker 3: me in the same you know stratusphere or atmosphere as

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Speaker 3: Josh so luckily in the division. So we have some

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Speaker 3: good matchups looking forward to, but really comparisons, I'm just

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Speaker 3: trying to be myself and hey, at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, some people think that that's a lot of

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Speaker 3: in respect for him, but at.

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Speaker 4: The work to do for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his comp is Herbert, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's an accurate one.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there is a comp for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 8: Jacques Allen and Herbert are the two comps essentially.

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Speaker 7: No, No, there is no. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I can see justin Herbert. You can see it,

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Speaker 1: same size, they move well, you can you can see Herbert.

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Speaker 1: You can see it in college that there is no.

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Speaker 7: Comp for Josh Allen. There's never anything quite like it.

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Speaker 8: But what about Dave Craig from your Seattle days, He's

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Speaker 8: a comp for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 8: But in all honesty, he was really good stood in

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Speaker 8: the pocket.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was as mobile.

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Speaker 1: As Drake Drake's I mean, when you watch Drake right there,

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Speaker 1: you can see it. I mean, he's got a he's

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Speaker 1: really talented and he has had nothing to work with. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got there. They've got there. It's exciting.

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Speaker 1: If you're a New England fan. You got your guy, now,

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Speaker 1: how great will he be? But listen, Chicago's never had

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Speaker 1: their guy like some of these organizations. I mean Tampa

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Speaker 1: before Brady. I mean they look forever. The Jets, they're

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Speaker 1: still looking for another name of thanks. So, I mean

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Speaker 1: it just when you have Drake Man, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: twelve years, let's just get him protected and get him weapons.

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Speaker 7: You've got your guy, all right, Let's wrap up with

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Speaker 7: a little baseball.

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Speaker 2: My Yanks.

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Speaker 8: They got an Aaron Judge back last night, but it

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Speaker 8: did not matter. They lost their fifth straight to zero

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Speaker 8: defeat against the Rangers.

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Speaker 7: Yanks are lost five straight.

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Speaker 8: People are panicking. I think it's time to take a

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Speaker 8: deep breath. Here's Judge talking to the media after the game.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I guess I'm worth to do. I know a

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Speaker 10: lot of things to clean up, but the boys that

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Speaker 10: are fired up to, you know, change all that and

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Speaker 10: get things right. And you got a great ball club

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Speaker 10: in here. So there's a lot of mistakes all around,

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Speaker 10: you know, some mental mistakes and physical mistakes. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: you guys are you gotta pick them and we gotta

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Speaker 10: fix them.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very They're very I mean, once Garrett Cole's gone,

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Speaker 1: you lose your a's you become very Aeron Judge reliant.

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Speaker 1: And he just got back he would he was out

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Speaker 1: and they didn't play well. They're very home run reliant

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Speaker 1: and very Aaron Judge reliant. They for all the money

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Speaker 1: they spent, and I think the Dodgers and the Mets

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Speaker 1: spend more, I think they're third I think right now

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Speaker 1: in baseball for all for all the money based spend.

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Speaker 1: They feel like they have a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: uneven roster. And I mean they're just very Judge and

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Speaker 1: home run reliant.

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Speaker 8: And all the Dodgers fans here put together this interesting

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Speaker 8: chart Yankees compared to the arguably worst team in baseball,

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Speaker 8: the White Sox, since July sixth, So we're looking at

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Speaker 8: a month of data here. Not great when you're compared

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Speaker 8: to a historically bad White Sox team. I will just

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Speaker 8: say the Yanks are gonna be okay. They're still firmly

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Speaker 8: in the wildcard mix.

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Speaker 7: There's like forty five ish games left in the season.

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Speaker 7: They'll be Everybody goes through these lulls.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a right maybe the Dodgers was in

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Speaker 1: about six weeks ago. The Dodgers were tire fire. They

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Speaker 1: got swept for the Brewers. Yeah, I mean they got

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Speaker 1: swept by the Brewers.

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Speaker 7: They and't score.

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Speaker 1: They have injuries. You have one hundred and sixty two games.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to ask players have ultimate urgency. If you

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Speaker 1: have a couple pitching injuries, you're done right now. The

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Speaker 1: Yankees have a you know, Aaron Boone the bullpen and

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Speaker 1: Devin Williams. You know, it's just like if they got

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Speaker 1: back end issues.

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Speaker 7: It's the way it works. Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: The Good Show today, Philip Rivers was hopefully if you

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Speaker 1: were in your car listening for about twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: he was, He's got great stories. And Joe Thomas came

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Speaker 1: on earlier today. And you know, you get these days

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Speaker 1: on the internet. I swear to got between AI and

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Speaker 1: the tribal nature of political fans.

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Speaker 7: Half the time I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: And then you got people on the internet that are

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Speaker 1: pretending they're Adam Schefter. I mean, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: is true and what's not. So with Cleveland, the video

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Speaker 1: I've seen, I think Shador Sanders looks better than Dylan

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Speaker 1: Gabriel now say, well, well you Dylan's getting snaps with

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Speaker 1: the better players. I will say this, the Browns have

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Speaker 1: a very weak receiving core. So the difference between the

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Speaker 1: number two receiver for the Browns and the number four

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Speaker 1: is probably not that great.

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Speaker 7: They're both throwing to just guys.

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Speaker 1: But Joe Thomas earlier today on on sort of how

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Speaker 1: he views the current Browns quarterback pecking order.

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Speaker 5: So I think Chadur is ahead of Dylan right now.

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Speaker 9: Dylan clearly has some things that he does really well,

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Speaker 9: obviously his mobility, his ability to get outside the pocket.

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Speaker 9: But the challenge of being a short quarterback, especially in

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Speaker 9: the NFL and NFL passing offenses, is that you have

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Speaker 9: to throw to a spot a lot of times. You

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Speaker 9: have to build that trust and that understanding of looking

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Speaker 9: at the structure of the defense knowing where the ball

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Speaker 9: needs to go. So far, Chadur has, I think, in

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Speaker 9: my opinion, outplayed Dylan at this point in training camp

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Speaker 9: because Dylan's had some struggles with accuracy in Shadur although

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Speaker 9: it's not been great with.

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Speaker 5: The procedural side of things.

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Speaker 9: When he's up there under the center and he's trying

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Speaker 9: to make calls and adjustments at the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 9: he's getting everybody lined up the snapcount.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Of all the voices in Cleveland, that's the one, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on the other journalists and

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Speaker 1: all the people. Mary kay Cabot, I know she's been

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Speaker 1: very optimistic with Shador Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot's excellent. She's

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Speaker 1: been optimistic. And Joe Thomas is like I like him

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Speaker 1: better than Dylan Gabriel. That's what I'm gonna trust, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust my eyes. He's just a bigger kid

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Speaker 1: that throws the ball more accurately, more often. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he's you know, I don't know lining people up.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not as good at that. I think you

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Speaker 1: can develop that over time and reps and practice. But

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Speaker 1: here's Joe Thomas. Also, the other thing I asked him about,

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Speaker 1: I said, and Joe, I don't know the number. Joe

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Speaker 1: Thomas must have had forty quarterbacks behind him, at least

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Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean, there's a different guy every week.

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Speaker 1: But one of the stories that came out, it's a

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Speaker 1: team that's the Browns rival the Steelers, and these are

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh reporters saying, yeah, this Aaron thing is very dink

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Speaker 1: and dunk.

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Speaker 7: He won't throw the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: And my take is he doesn't trust the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: He didn't trust the Jets all line, and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: all line, according to PFF, is worse. And here's Joe

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Speaker 1: Thomas on older quarterbacks than Aaron Rodgers sometimes going underneath

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Speaker 1: instead of sitting and waiting the extra beat.

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Speaker 9: The young quarterbacks they don't know any better, right. Their

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Speaker 9: youth is their ignorance, and it serves them well because

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Speaker 9: they're willing to stand in there and they're willing to

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Speaker 9: take those hits right in the chops. And I think

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Speaker 9: that remains to be seen a little bit with Aaron

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Speaker 9: Rodgers because he's never been a guy that loved being

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Speaker 9: hit him. He's never been a huge guy, but he's

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Speaker 9: always had great feet. He's always been able to extend

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Speaker 9: the play get out of the pocket with his athleticism,

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Speaker 9: and we really didn't see that with the Jets and

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Speaker 9: so far coming out of the Steelers' training camp.

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Speaker 5: There's been some conversation about him not really showing.

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Speaker 11: Great mobility, not showing an ability to escape the pocket,

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Speaker 11: escape the rush, and that comes into question then about

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Speaker 11: how much is he willing to be able to just

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Speaker 11: stand in there and extend the play if you can't

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Speaker 11: do it with his feet anymore, and he's not willing

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Speaker 11: to take the hits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I've said is I said this

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Speaker 1: two or three days ago, and I read multiple stories

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Speaker 1: out of the Steelers. I think it's going to look

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Speaker 1: like a more polished, better coach version of the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Aaron didn't want to take the hits, and I don't

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Speaker 1: blame him. Brady didn't, Peyton didn't, Eli didn't, Aaron doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Stafford's an outlier. He'll sit in there to the very end.

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers took some shots. Big Ben took way too

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Speaker 1: many shots. In my opinion, big Ben would hold the

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Speaker 1: ball later in his career, say bro get out of there.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, when you watch this video, you know

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Speaker 1: you can watch his movement.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't look like twenty six year old Aaron.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He's an older guy. So and since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The staff put it here. The last season in Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: Aaron's got fewer what they call big pass plays twenty

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Speaker 1: plus yards than Derek Carr. And that's It's not that

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Speaker 1: Aaron can't throw it deep. It's just not going to

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Speaker 1: sit in the pocket and take shots.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I think if he played with the Lions or the

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Speaker 1: Eagles and their own lines, those numbers would all change.

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Speaker 1: It's not his lack of ability Aaron still tents hits.

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Speaker 1: His lack of willingness to get hammered. He got no

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Speaker 1: interest in that stuff.

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Speaker 7: All right, we're done. We are done. I think we

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Speaker 7: fulfilled our obligation for three hours.

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Speaker 1: You know what,