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Subscribe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify, 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: or anywhere else you listen and always I'm Bloomberg Radio, 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Terminal, and the Bloomberg Business app right now 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: on market. 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: Sarah Hunt joins us this morning. 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: I was looking at the operating income of the banks 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: with Golden Sechs coming out, and they just their profit 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: growth is there, but it's not techlike. Are they profitable 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: and are they a growing profitable entity the big banks 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: or are they not? 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Well, the big banks are just getting bigger, right, so 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: to the extent that the regional banks are suffering because 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: the bigger banks are getting bigger. There is growth, there 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: is it tech like growth. No, But if you see 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: if you start to see some other areas pick up, 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: like capital markets, which has essentially been more abound for 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: the next for the last couple of years. They're pointing 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: to some opening in some of those areas. I think 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: the bigger banks continue to get bigger, and I think 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: in that sense there's growth, but no, it's not going 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: to be a hockey stick like some of the tech sacs. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: So, sir, I mean, we're getting into the meat of 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 4: earnings here this week. 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: Here. 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: What are you looking for for this earning cycle from 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: some of the leading players. 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: It's a combination of what the first quarter looked like 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: and what their expectations are for the rest of the year. 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Because I think that given where the valuations are in 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: the equity markets and all the geopolitical tensions that we're 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: talking about, you're at some fairly lofty valuation levels. 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: So you need to. 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: See some real earnings come through here, and to the 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: extent that people are already expecting or to be better, 42 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: they need to not just be better, but the going 43 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: forward has to look pretty good as well. 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: So I mean, it's interesting you talk about evaluation here. 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: We've had this big, big move for equity prices off 46 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: those October lows, up twenty five percent plus for the 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: SMP five hundred. I don't think we've seen necessarily that 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 4: type of earnings expansion as well. So where are we 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: in terms of valuation here? 50 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: We're on the higher end, right so to the extent 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: that some of the technology stocks have got the hockey 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: stick growth that is supporting multiples because people are expecting 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: the earnings to grow into those multiples. So the multiples 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: will come down because the earnings are coming up. But 55 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the market as a whole, 56 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: we're on that higher end on the multiple side, and 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: that's it's been a real multiple expansion more than an 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: earnings catch up. And if the earnings don't end actually 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: end up coming through, I think you have some vulnerability there. 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: So what do you do if you're in the game, 61 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: you know there's a lot I often talk about people 62 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: that have missed this school market. Let's say I'm in 63 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: it and there's like stage two, stage three. 64 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: The whatever. How do you treat cash right now? 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're trying to be an adult and 66 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: you're running at five percent cash or eight percent cash, 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: do you want to build that or do you want 68 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: to put money to work right now? 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: It's a combination of things. I think there's nothing wrong 70 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: with having something like a five percent cash position somewhere 71 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: in between. That the higher up you go, the more 72 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: you become at risk of not just not really managing money. 73 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: If you're supposed to be an equity manager, right you 74 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: want to be looking at what's going on. I think 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: the market has broadened out. I think that there's some 76 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: opportunities in some of the spaces. I mean, I've talked 77 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: about energy for ages, but certainly what's going on right now. 78 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: You've got some longer term better prospects for the energy group, 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because the geopolitical situation. But that combined 80 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: with the energy transition story, means that you're seeing some 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: of h oil prices. 82 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: Three month T bill five point three eight percent, one 83 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: year tea bill shockingly lower five point one five time. 84 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like ninety day money. 85 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: You're all set there in your triple all large cash 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: fund here, So what do you want. 87 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: To go through? 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: I learned this weekend we just did the end a 89 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: quarter review. I had a two and twenty payout. 90 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: Nice. 91 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: Great, we gross up thirteen point five percent. 92 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: Nice. 93 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: There's some fees involved. 94 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: There's everybody's got to get paid, just got to be paid. 95 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: You know, we got two and twenty Sarah, So what 96 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: do we do here? 97 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: I mean again, technology has been the leader in this 98 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: market since I can't remember when, and is that still. 99 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: The case here? 100 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: Does technology need to drive this market? 101 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 3: This is the question of the week, folks. Sweety just 102 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: asked this is this is everything? 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes. I mean if you 104 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: just look at where the growth is, it's on technology. 105 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: So do you need other things to do well as well? 106 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 6: Yes you do. 107 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 5: But if you really. 108 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Saw a problem with technology, that's going to be a 109 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: problem for the entire market. I think it does need 110 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: to keep that leader. 111 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: So are you a buyer? 112 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: And this whole AI stuff, Tom and I are still 113 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: trying to figure out what AI means. 114 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 3: When you went down to Duke this weekend, O got smart? 115 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: I got smart? 116 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: Well, you look at all the areas that are going 117 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: to be impacted by it. There's a huge spend going 118 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: on right now because of it. And the question is 119 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: how is that going to make us profitable? Because the 120 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: real with AI is can I get my margins up 121 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: by using it in some way? And the questions are 122 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: sort of like AI question mark, I'm going to make 123 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: more money. That question mark is coming through. For some 124 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: of the players like Microsoft and some of the cloud players, 125 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: it's going to be a question going forward how you 126 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: actually monitor. 127 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: Microsoft as you were going, I get thirty seconds Microsoft 128 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: pre COVID fifty two bill excuse me, thirty eight billion. 129 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: Thirty eight billion free cash flow. Oh, it's almost a 130 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: double the arch question of Paul's great question, Can this 131 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: juggernaut be sustained? 132 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: You're saying yes, Well, I'm saying that they need to 133 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: continue to show growth and if they show growth and 134 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: the juggernaut will be sustained. If the growth slows down, 135 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: that's going to be a big question mark. How the 136 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: rest of the market reacts as well. 137 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Sarah, thanks for getting a start of this week. 138 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: Sarah hunt with us greatly, greatly appreciate that. With Alpine 139 00:05:50,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: Wood's Capital investors, I thought of Ian Bremer four or 140 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: five six times this weekend, because you need to describe 141 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: our G zero certitude, our comfort, our lack of warfare 142 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: on the soil of the United States and the other 143 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: G seven nations with what's going on out there. He 144 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 2: codified the phrase G zero and we're honored that doctor 145 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Bremer could join us this morning. What does the G 146 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: seven do here? Of the Kissingerian diplomacy, Ian, you got 147 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: to show up and be diplomatic. If you can't talk 148 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: to the other side, how to should the G seven respond? 149 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 6: They're showing as much support as they can for the 150 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: defense of Israel, and that is both intended to show 151 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 6: Israel that they are not isolated in the global stage 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 6: despite the war in Gaza and all of the opposition 153 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 6: to that war over the past months. But the Iranian 154 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 6: strikes in a sense are the higher priority for the 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 6: G seven, but that they don't want to see. They 156 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: really resist the potential for Israel to engage in strikes 157 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 6: against Iran that could precipitate a direct war. And right now, 158 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: I would argue, you've got Benny Gans largely sympathetic to 159 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 6: that message, someone that would like to be the next 160 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 6: Prime Minister of Israel, and he has a vote on 161 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: that war cabinet. And you've got Benjamin Yahoo, who is 162 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 6: fighting for his political life and is not sympathetic to 163 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 6: that argument. Gants is saying, this is the time that 164 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 6: you should strengthen alliances with countries like the US in 165 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 6: Germany and on Yahoo is saying this is the time 166 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: we've got to hit the Iranians back directly and hard, 167 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: even if that means a more isolated and a more 168 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 6: unilateral Israel. That is the nature of the debate inside 169 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 6: Israel right now. 170 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: And what's so important here, folks. You know you see 171 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: in Bremer and he's doing this media that meydia he's 172 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: writing this book, and what you don't see is the 173 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: granularism of his daily Eurasia note. And part of that 174 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: Ian is about the structure of the Iranian government and 175 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 2: a theocracy. Who's calling the shots in Iran right now? 176 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: Do they have a legitimate government or is it a 177 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: theocracy that staggers back to nineteen seventy nine. 178 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 6: Look, you know that they don't have a legitimate government 179 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 6: in the sense that the people don't have a voice, 180 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 6: They don't have the ability to vote for them or 181 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: vote them out. And indeed, there have been a lot 182 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 6: of people, myself included, that have both believed and hoped 183 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 6: that people power would be more successful in rising up 184 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 6: against this brutal theocratic regime. But it is in place, 185 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: it is stable, it is calling the sh internationally and domestically, 186 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 6: and it does not want a war with the United States, 187 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: and so I look, I think the important thing I've 188 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 6: been seeing on the media over the weekend, please you 189 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 6: know how extraordinary it was that the Israelis were able 190 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 6: to defend so well against three hundred Iranian missiles and 191 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 6: drones that they knocked down ninety nine percent of them 192 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: and there were not any depths, there were not any 193 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 6: significant injuries. And that's a great story. But let us 194 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 6: remember that the Iranians gave a heads up as to 195 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 6: the nature and the timing of the attack to the Iraqis. 196 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: Why did they do that? 197 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: Why did they do that flying over Iraq and Jordan? 198 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: Why does the Iranians give it away? 199 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: It's like pretend war. 200 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because I think they were trying to accomplish 201 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 6: two things that are hard to do. At the same time, 202 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: they were trying to show a maximum display of force 203 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 6: in responding to the Israeli strikes on Damascus that killed 204 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 6: a high level Iranian military official, and they were trying 205 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 6: to minimize the likelihood that their show of force led 206 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 6: to further attacks and brought them into a war they 207 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 6: want to fight. So those two goals that they have 208 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 6: are not exactly fully in alignment tom Right. And so 209 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 6: what they did was they tipped their cards. They showed 210 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 6: their hand through the Turks and the Iraqis to the Americans. 211 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 6: So the United States had the ability to send the 212 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 6: Sentcom commander to Israel to coordinate a response, to get 213 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: your vessels and your aircraft in place in advance, to 214 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 6: let the Israelis know what was going to happen, to 215 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 6: tell the Israelis privately and publicly that there was I 216 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 6: Clad's support for Israeli defense. In other words, give the 217 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 6: Israelis a bear hug, help defend them as best you can, 218 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 6: but also help constrain them, and constrain specifically the Prime 219 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 6: Minister in making it hard for him to engage in 220 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 6: full throated military response following this Iranian attack. That's exactly 221 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 6: what the Iranians were hoping to accomplish. By the way, 222 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 6: it was also following the US playbook. In the one 223 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 6: week following the Iranian proxy attacks that killed three American 224 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 6: servicemen and women in Jordan, the Americans did the same thing. 225 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 6: And so I'm sure that the Iranians figured because it's 226 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 6: a dangerous thing for them to do, it worked for America. 227 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 6: The US is going to get it if we do 228 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: the same thing in response, and. 229 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: We're six months into this conflict here, I think I 230 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: speak for a lot of folks when I say we 231 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: just have no idea how Israel get out of this 232 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: situation today versus day one. How do you think this 233 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: plays out going forward? 234 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: I think most people are focused on Iran right now 235 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 6: and less on Gaza. That will of course change back 236 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 6: given the nature of the horrible civilian casualties, the famine 237 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 6: that's going on, and the rest. But this does give 238 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 6: the Israeli Prime Minister and his right wing government more 239 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: of a lease on life. They're likely to be there 240 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 6: for longer as opposed to forced out soon. That's a 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 6: problem for Biden. There's less focus on Gaza, which means 242 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 6: that not Yao's going to have a harder time being restrained. 243 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 6: In terms of eventual ground assault on Rafa. I suspect 244 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 6: it will be less dramatic, less overwhelming than he might 245 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 6: have wanted to do before the US ultimatum, and there'll 246 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 6: be more humanitarian aid coming in. But I think those 247 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: attacks are still happening, especially because it's harder to now 248 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 6: get the Hamas breakthrough on the initial hostage release in 249 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 6: the six weeks, see and. 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: Get some rest. 251 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: You've been up all weekend. Ian Bremer there owning the 252 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: high ground on our G zero realities. Doctor Bremer, of 253 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: course with Eurasia Group looked to his top ten risks 254 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, my book of the 255 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: summer with Chip Wars on our technology. 256 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: So what we're going to do here is different. 257 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: We have a former Supreme Commander of NATO, James Travitas, 258 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: vetted at one point as a vice presidential candidate by 259 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: one of the sides, and Erbral Stravitas joins us this morning, Ebro. 260 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: I want to talk about one thing. I want to 261 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: talk about Oury Burke destroyers. Now we had Spruance, one 262 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: of my heroes. We had Spruance Destroyers and almost Zumwalt 263 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: said we got to do something fancier. And now there's 264 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: Zoomwalt destroyers. 265 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: And all that. 266 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: How do Ourley Burke destroyers defend themselves in the Eastern 267 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: Mediterranean from oncoming drones? Their technology is world class, isn't it? 268 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 7: It absolutely is. And by the way, I'm thrilled to 269 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 7: talk about it. I commanded uss Berry and Arley burg 270 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 7: class Destroyer second of the class. I commanded a squadron 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 7: eight of these destroyers in combat. I commanded many of them. 272 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: We're gonna focus. 273 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna interrupt right now, folks, we're focusing on this 274 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: today because of all the media bladder. I get it, 275 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: I love it. I'm glad we're doing it in Bloomberg. 276 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: This is the adult on your men and women at sea. 277 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Admiral continue on the Arlely Burke in the Berry. 278 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 7: So the ships are about five hundred feet long, sixty 279 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 7: six feet wide. But here's the punchline, Tom. They carry 280 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 7: about ninety five anti air and land attack missiles. They 281 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 7: have an unmatched capability to defend themselves. Three hundred and 282 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 7: fifty sailors aboard two helicopters on most of the ships 283 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 7: in the class, and they've been used most recently over 284 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 7: the last forty eight hours in the Red Sea and 285 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 7: the Eastern Mediterranean, knocking down the Iranian air attack and 286 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 7: doing so quite effectively. 287 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Right, what's important here? You know, folks, we got an 288 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: idea of a nineteen year old in the deck of 289 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: an aircraft carrier. I think it's something we all understand 290 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: from Vietnam. Ford Max Hastings grabs it beautifully in his 291 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: book on Vietnam, at must vedis, do you have like 292 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: a nineteen year old kid handling a Falance close in 293 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: weapons system CIWS for point defense against drones from Iran? 294 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 7: Absolutely, there'll be somebody maybe twenty twenty five at the most, 295 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 7: sitting in the combat information center with his or her 296 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 7: finger on the button for that sea whiz system as 297 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 7: we call it. It's a gatling gun that fires uranium 298 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 7: projectiles if any of the missiles get through the air. 299 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: Defense is the. 300 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: Longer range ones. 301 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 7: We use those close in But the whole ship is 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 7: manned by very young people. When I was captain of 303 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 7: the ship, I was thirty seven years old. 304 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: Wow, this folks is just so important. 305 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: And I got to get one more question here because 306 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Paul's looking at me like when do I get to talk? 307 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: And amasturvedis, just where are we in our navy development? 308 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: We've got this whole thing that we stopped their shipbuilding. 309 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: But I don't mean the gerald Ford and the enormous platform. 310 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: How many more berries and Birks do we develop? 311 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 7: We're going to be bringing out a new class USS 312 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 7: constellation class frigate that's almost as big as these guided 313 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 7: missile destroyers. First one is having her keel laid this week, 314 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 7: as a matter of fact, So the follow on classes, 315 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 7: frankly will be even better than these early burks, and 316 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 7: they're pretty damn good. 317 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: Admiral, It's been a busy week in that part of 318 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: the world over there, with the Iranian response and shelling 319 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: of Israel. Put into context of how about risk are 320 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: our ships and our men and women in that part 321 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: of the world, and how do we protect them better. 322 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 7: Perhaps our sailors are on board the unmatched, most capable 323 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 7: warships in the world. They can absolutely defend themselves in 324 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 7: any scenario, but there's always a possibility of a missile 325 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 7: slipping through, of a mistake being made in a radar 326 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 7: bad intelligence as you're looking in the opposite direction. These 327 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 7: kind of incidents can happen. So thus far none of 328 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 7: our ships, our warships, have been struck by Iranian or 329 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 7: hoothy ballistic missiles or drones. But the sailors there absolutely 330 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 7: have to stand their toes to execute their mission, not 331 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 7: only defending themselves but defending our allies in the region 332 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 7: like Israel. 333 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: Adamirre, what do you expect from Israel over the coming 334 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: days and weeks. Here it just feels like we've kind 335 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: of gotten into this stalemate type of situation in that 336 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: part of the world. 337 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 7: The Israelis have said they will respond to this three 338 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty drone ballistic missile cruise missile attack. Fortunately, 339 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 7: the air defenses were discussing destroyed. It knocked down three 340 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty of them essentially, But Israel will respond. However, Paul, 341 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 7: I don't think it'll be a massive jets whistling above 342 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 7: Tehran kind of response. I think it'll include offensive cyber 343 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 7: maritime operations, special operations. Don't look for a big escalation 344 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 7: at this point. 345 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: One more question the airon Roling's doing this because we 346 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: want you to come back in the show. I noticed 347 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: that the USS Barry was named two years ago the 348 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: Navy's top Pacific fleet sub hunter. Bring that over to 349 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: the Hormon Strait. How much risk do we have of 350 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: it RAN? Without our technology like the USS Berry shutting 351 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: down the Hormone Strait. 352 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: RAN could shut it down Tom with mines putting minds 353 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 7: in the water. That's why our mind sweepers are stationed 354 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 7: over there. Our allies have mind sweeping capability and then finally, 355 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 7: the Iranians also have diesel submarines quite quiet, quite capable, 356 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 7: but a ship like uss Berry should be able to 357 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 7: handle that threat as well. Watch the mind sweeping. That 358 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 7: would be the way they would close the strait. 359 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: Admiral, thank you so much this morning, Admiral Stravitis. Of 360 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: course I can't say enough about twenty thirty four and 361 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: just out moving on to the technology that we can't imagine. 362 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: Elliet Ackerman and James Travitas twenty fifty four. 363 00:19:46,720 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: It is my book of the summer. A day to 364 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: look at the front pages around the world. Sue Decker 365 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: x DLG the iconic of this. Sue Decker's on the 366 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: board at Costco. She emailed, she did. 367 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: Like a DM, like not an email, a DM on Twitter, 368 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: Lisen that's like where you're talk inside to Lisa Matteo. 369 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: Did you really spend five hundred dollars at Costco? 370 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: Five hundred eighty dollars to be exact, missus. 371 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: King's looking at your photo going, my god, we don't 372 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: eat like that. They eat. 373 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 8: It's my once a month kind of going there, and 374 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 8: you got to stock up. 375 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: I have the extra freezer, I have the extra freeze, 376 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 5: you do. 377 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 8: I put them in the garage where the beers. That's 378 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 8: where the beer is, and I come over. 379 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: It's healthy beer, it's gluten free beer. Sue Decker at 380 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: Costco says, thank you. 381 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: What do you got? 382 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was quite a time. So we talked about Netflix. 383 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: That one was crazy. 384 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 8: From the New York Times, I want to talk about 385 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 8: We've been talking so much about squatters. 386 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: This one stood out to me from business insider. 387 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 8: Waters have taken over Gordon Ramsey's restaurant in London. Believe 388 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 8: it or not, at least six people they're living there 389 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 8: outside York and Albany. 390 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 5: This is according to the BBC two. 391 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 8: The restaurant was temporarily closed, so that's why this happened. 392 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 8: And they're not sure when the squatters first showed up, 393 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 8: but they're calling themselves the occupiers. They have a sign outside, 394 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 8: they posted a sign, they locked themselves inside, they boarded 395 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 8: up the windows. They're threatening legal action against anybody who 396 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 8: tries to kick them out. Ramsey's called the authorities about 397 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 8: the property, but so far they're still there. 398 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: So this is a small mad Why New York Mayor 399 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Adams just focused on, you know, the rights of both 400 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: sides of the transaction. 401 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: I don't see it's brutal. 402 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: There was a Yahoo financed chart out over the weekend 403 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: on where the inflation is rent number two, home ownership 404 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: number three. 405 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: That's all there is to it. I'm sorry, our audience 406 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: is correct. 407 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: The people we talked to are ron They're all micromanaging inflation. 408 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 3: I'm sorry people are getting crushed. 409 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 410 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely Yeah. 411 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Maybe groceries are better now, but I don't buy it. 412 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: What else do you have? 413 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: The New York Post the once popular power Lunch. 414 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 8: Remember we've been talking about, you know people, maybe they're 415 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 8: trickling back to the office. Apparently they're coming back because 416 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 8: the Power Lunch is making a comeback. 417 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: Okay, this is according to side. 418 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 8: Dish, a number of Midtown restaurants, newer hotspots. They're reporting 419 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 8: the power Lunch expanded not just from Tuesday to Thursday, 420 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 8: but five. 421 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: Days a week. 422 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 6: Really. 423 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, So they're enjoying the food, they're making big deals. 424 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 8: And here's something interesting, Ladies who's lunch? 425 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 5: Ladies who lunch? 426 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 427 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: I love that is back. So the women are making 428 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: the deals too. They're going out for lunch. 429 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 8: More. 430 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 5: Friday is the more popular lunch day. 431 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 8: Because the workers don't go back to the office after lunch, 432 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 8: so you can kind of make a longer lunch, maybe 433 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 8: two three martinis. 434 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but good morning. Michael McCarty in Steve Millington. 435 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: I mean, the bottom line is there. I was power 436 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: lunching on Friday. 437 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: Yep. I was stunned how busy it was, given when 438 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: Monday is. 439 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: A new Friday and they actually talking to Steam about it, 440 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: and you know, he totally agrees with what the New 441 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: York Post is saying, there's just a new step, a 442 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: new pop, let's go. I hope it continues. I think 443 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: people know how bias stam on this. 444 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: I'll be at the La Gourmet Deli power lunching today 445 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: with my sandwich. But I know usually I'm a Michael 446 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 4: Stone that that's my go to spot. That's where the 447 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: media folks hang out. 448 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, media, I just sit at the bar, 449 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: you know, Like you know what I saw there? Nick Corlish, Yeah, he. 450 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: Was in some intense private meeting. I think he was 451 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: trying to sell Google or something. But Nick Corlis came 452 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: he was there. Yeah, he was having the green asparagus 453 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: with the French sauce. 454 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: I can't pronounce. 455 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: Next fancy stuff and this is the last one. 456 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 8: It's it's a bit of a battle going on at 457 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 8: the gym because a lot of these implacers are taking 458 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 8: their phones and they're filming themselves and they're posting all 459 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 8: these things. The people in the background they don't want 460 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 8: to be on their feed. So it's this back and 461 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 8: forth thing about people saying, stop filming yourself at the gym. 462 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 5: Enough of it around? 463 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: Do you film yourself with the gym's gonna say? You're 464 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 4: looking at us like you guys have no idea what 465 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea what you're talking about? 466 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: Do you have your phone out to Jims. Our audience 467 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: wants to know. 468 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 5: The thing is, I work out at home, I go 469 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 5: to the gym and you've got the power Jem. 470 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 4: This is not like the peloton tom like or like 471 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: the little walking on a treadmill nose. 472 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 5: She's got like free weights. 473 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: And it's like there's a house it's like three houses 474 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: down from Dann Lobe in the hand. 475 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: I don't know who owns it. 476 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: And it's like literally four thousand square feet of gym equipment. 477 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: Do you have something like that? 478 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: Not four thousand maybe a little piece of that. 479 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 8: But all of my friends who go to gym, that's 480 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 8: what they complained about. They're like, enough of this already, 481 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 8: Like do your workout. You're taking up my time on 482 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 8: the bench. You're doing this, and so. 483 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: You got to get your phone all set up and 484 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: the lighting and all that. 485 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna get serious and good morning. Jeremy. 486 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: I through who I Adore out in Vancouver is just 487 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: phenomenal out on YouTube. It's really helped me a lot 488 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: and trying to keep this aged body going Lisa. 489 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: How long should you work out with weights? 490 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 5: With weights? No less than two days a week? 491 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: Oh no, he's Jeremy's four days or more? There? What's fine? 492 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: I see guys in the gym and they're there for 493 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: three hours? What are they doing? Much? Too much? 494 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 5: They don't want to go home? 495 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 2: That's there. 496 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: How many minutes do you work out in a given 497 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: day with waits? 498 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 6: Me? 499 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: Forty minutes, that's it, forty minutes. But today say in 500 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 5: arms day or his arms shoulders and that. 501 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: After after the trip's what's I do a. 502 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: Hockey Seriously, I do a hockey workout. I do it 503 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: in less than twenty minutes, and I get about eighty 504 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: percent seventy five percent done because I don't have time. 505 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 5: For this stuff, not like you don't have that. 506 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: Long and I am taking photos y Pharaoh. Pharaoh still 507 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: talks about being the gym because I'm actually lifting weights. 508 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: The rest of them are doing three sets. 509 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: In that is what is Barrow doing. 510 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 3: I like not seeing tell up? Not seeing tell up? 511 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: Does this? You do like one set? Get over it 512 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: and move on. That's it. 513 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna follow Lisa. She's the expert's yeah, yep, 514 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: she's all right. 515 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 5: But the bottom line is about. 516 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 8: Stop film Stop filming yourself. 517 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 5: People are tired of it. They don't want to be seen. 518 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 8: It's actually some legal issues too, or starting to go 519 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 8: from this. 520 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, well I don't in the background of your 521 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: social media posts. It's according to the Wall Street Journal. Okay, yes, 522 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 4: all right, Lisa, thank you so much. 523 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: For Thank you, Lisa. That was brilliant, Starting stronger. 524 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Surveillance Podcast, bringing you the best 525 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: in economics, finance, investment, and international relations. You can also 526 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: watch the show live on YouTube. 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