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Speaker 1: Wednesday, February twenty first on the Just Baseball Show, Jack

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Speaker 1: Arham and I'm Peter. Guys, It's time for the countdown.

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Speaker 1: We know what episode this is three two one mail bad.

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing, here's what kills me about. This

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Speaker 3: now Arham is lip syncing the harmony, which is getting there.

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Speaker 3: He's getting there slowly, but surely we're gonna get mail

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Speaker 4: I pretend nobody's that we're talking to nobody, that that's

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Speaker 1: And we definitely aren't talking to nobody. We have tons

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Speaker 1: all so much for asking them. We have ten ready

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Speaker 1: address two elephants in the room. One for the people

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and one for Urum. Number one. I have

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's why you're wearing the glasses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looks like I have pink eye. I

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Speaker 3: Hey, one hundred percent. We were also talking about the

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Speaker 1: Ar What was your reaction when I took off the sunglasses.

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Speaker 4: I honestly thought you got like punched in the face

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Speaker 4: But it was actually, Oh, it would be vlatty Junior,

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Speaker 1: The second elephant in the room. Before we get into

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Speaker 4: I endorsed it, you know, I think Look, Bruce Sherman,

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Speaker 4: Marlin's owner, just just came out and said, yeah, attendance

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna mess around. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: That you just said lock on He just said knock

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the initial remark was made on Sunday, and

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Speaker 3: hearing this on Wednesday. Bryce Harper wants an extension. Apparently,

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Speaker 3: Harper and Scott Boris have started conversations with Dave Dombrowski

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Speaker 3: If you're unaware of Bryce Harper's contract situation, he has

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Speaker 1: Ask Arham before you know you answer that question kind

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Speaker 1: of from Jack. Do you think that it's Bryce Harper

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Speaker 1: going to Boris and being like, I want more years

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Speaker 4: A great question. I mean, I think Boris is always

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Speaker 1: But let's do that.

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Speaker 4: final three years of the deal, he's making twenty two

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to pay Bryce Harper twenty something million dollars

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Speaker 4: actually five. Let's let's bump up the twenty two million

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Speaker 4: To become like the NFL, Like, oh, like Bryce Harper

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what kind of precedent does that send or set?

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Speaker 4: Here's twenty percent of the deal back. Rendona ain't doing

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Speaker 3: We're not saying, you know, oh, poor organization for handing

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is so funny. Though I'm also thinking from

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Speaker 4: The last thing I'll say is zero dollars are deferred

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a great segue into question one of the

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Speaker 1: wit Broad on ig will this offseason mark the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the downfall of the Boris Empire? Now? He in

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Speaker 3: Jack real quick. I want to adjust the Korea narrative

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Speaker 4: So look, I don't know if any of those things

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Speaker 3: He used to he does.

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Speaker 1: I think Scott Boris used to be the smartest guy

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel. What I do know

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Speaker 4: He's one of the best ever to arguably the best ever.

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Speaker 4: He's probably the best ever. Do it really in baseball specifically,

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Speaker 4: But you know, there becomes a time where I think

435
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Speaker 4: teams shift with the way that they go about things,

436
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Speaker 4: and there's a new industry standard to the way that

437
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Speaker 4: you're supposed to conduct yourself. And I think normally Boris

438
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Speaker 4: used to set that standard, and it's just become a

439
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Speaker 4: very competitive industry as well. Right, you have so many

440
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Speaker 4: other agencies that have a lot of really good clients

441
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Speaker 4: and and and there's a little bit more of I

442
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Speaker 4: think parody across agencies now in baseball. So your teams

443
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Speaker 4: don't have to play Scott Morris's game as much. He

444
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Speaker 4: used to basically run a monopoly on on the top

445
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Speaker 4: players in baseball. And yeah, you might miss out on

446
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Speaker 4: some very talented players, but you can still go get

447
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Speaker 4: plenty of very good baseball players without playing the Boris

448
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Speaker 4: game and just you know, playing right into his hand.

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Speaker 4: So he's got to bend a little bit, and I

450
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Speaker 4: don't know if he if he's capable of doing so.

451
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Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see. I think the way

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Speaker 4: that these four guys, you know, these these free agents

453
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Speaker 4: settle up, you know, wherever it ends up if they

454
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Speaker 4: don't get deals that you know, we or or the

455
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Speaker 4: general consensus thought that you know, they were going to get.

456
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Speaker 4: I think it's going to start to become a much

457
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Speaker 4: louder conversation about whether these tactics that have worked in

458
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Speaker 4: the past are going to still be able to work

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Speaker 4: for Boris, and I think a lot of players will

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Speaker 4: start to wonder that too. You trust him here. If

461
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Speaker 4: Boris Tony to walk in your Snell, you walk, Okay.

462
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Speaker 4: He's gonna get me the money. He always gets guys money.

463
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Speaker 4: If you do all that shit and then you don't

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Speaker 4: get the best deal, that's where things are gonna really

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Speaker 4: start shaking up, I think.

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Speaker 1: And one of Boris's big tactics, right, He's a master

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Speaker 1: in the media. Right. We know certain writers, right, he

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Speaker 1: used to be right. And that's my point is that

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Speaker 1: these big time writers, I'll just John Hayman of the

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Speaker 1: New York Post will write about how the Yankees need

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Speaker 1: like these three certain players, or it's a failure of

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Speaker 1: the offseason like I think those columns used to put

473
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Speaker 1: more pressure on teams like the Yankees. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I bring them up is not because of my fandom,

475
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Speaker 1: but because there is a rumor right now that there

476
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Speaker 1: is an offer on the table from the Yankees to

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell now.

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Speaker 4: With the exact dollar amount, which is funny too exactly.

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Speaker 1: And there's there's a wrinkle in free agency that I

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Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people know, so that if

481
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Speaker 1: you are a team, you cannot come out and say

482
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Speaker 1: we're not interested in that player because what it does

483
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Speaker 1: is it messes with the free agency market. Like all

484
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Speaker 1: teams understand that they cannot say, no, we're out on

485
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Speaker 1: this team, on this player, or we have our full

486
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Speaker 1: set of guys, we're done with free agents, because it'll

487
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Speaker 1: mess up to market. Right. So, being a Yankee fan,

488
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Speaker 1: I've seen that Scott Boris I think has used the

489
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Speaker 1: Yankees in order to put pressure on the rest of

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Speaker 1: the market as kind of a big bad villain the

491
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Speaker 1: team with all of the money. I think teams are

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Speaker 1: starting to realize, hey, this is the same game being

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Speaker 1: played over and over again. So Jack, to your point

494
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Speaker 1: when you're saying he's not a master of the media,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's not anymore. But you can't

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Speaker 1: say that he didn't because these tactics have been used

497
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Speaker 1: for the past decade and a half since Twitter X

498
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Speaker 1: was even started to put pressure on because he knows

499
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Speaker 1: teams can't deny that they're in on a certain player.

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Speaker 3: Also, the one liner, shit got cool, corny quick, really corny?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean anything else on Boris Before we move

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Speaker 1: on to the second question.

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Speaker 4: He lost me at the belly like loosen up the

504
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Speaker 4: bell thing, and that one still makes me uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: I yeah, I will say Bellinger and Snell are the

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Speaker 3: two that, like I think, will decide the trajectory of

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Speaker 3: Scott Boris moving forward. Chapman has had concerns surely, and

508
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Speaker 3: Montgomery like Montgomery's consistent. Snell like, we've seen him look

509
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Speaker 3: like a guy that isn't a nine figure pitcher, but

510
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Speaker 3: he's coming off of a cy young So like, this

511
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Speaker 3: is a chance to have maximum stock for Snell and

512
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Speaker 3: then Bellinger. His stock couldn't have been lower three hundred

513
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Speaker 3: and sixty five days ago and now it couldn't be higher.

514
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Speaker 3: So like, if those guys aren't being paid at their apex, maybe,

515
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Speaker 3: like Snell and Bellinger scream, that might be the best

516
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Speaker 3: they'll ever be last year, How does he maneuver that

517
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Speaker 3: If they get jipped, it doesn't look good for Boris.

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Speaker 1: I have a quick question to add to the mailbag

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Speaker 1: on this topic. Sorry, do you think that teams are

520
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Speaker 1: getting weary of pitchers, most notably right because pitchers, you know,

521
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Speaker 1: take longer to get back into things. Do you think

522
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Speaker 1: the longer the wait Actually, the teams are less likely

523
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Speaker 1: to sign these guys because of spring training, and they

524
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Speaker 1: want to get all of their guys, all their ducks

525
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Speaker 1: in a row, right. They aren't sure like how a

526
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Speaker 1: pitcher looks because they haven't seen him taking him in

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Speaker 1: with only a couple weeks left of the season. How

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Speaker 1: do you think teams feel about it? Me personally, I know,

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Speaker 1: or at least I think I'd like to know that

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Speaker 1: pictures like Blake Snell, Jorn Montgomery are still getting their

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Speaker 1: work in right. This is not their first spring training.

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Speaker 1: They understand what it takes to get ready for a

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Speaker 1: season because they've done it a lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: for five seven years at least in Major League Baseball camp.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not that nervous right now. But let's say

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Speaker 1: a week passes, Let's say another week after that passes.

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Speaker 1: When do you start to think to yourself, these guys

538
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Speaker 1: might not sign at all, or that a team shouldn't

539
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Speaker 1: sign them because they won't be ready for opening Day.

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Speaker 4: So I think what works into his favor into Boris

541
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Speaker 4: and some of these players favors that you know, injuries

542
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Speaker 4: are inevitable on the mound, especially, and like if you're

543
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Speaker 4: the Orioles. Now you're stirring a little bit, like you're

544
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Speaker 4: trying to find I don't know if they're going to

545
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Speaker 4: spend now with the new ownership yet or not, you know,

546
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Speaker 4: but just an example, like if they were a larger

547
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Speaker 4: market team, maybe they pivot and say, all right, whatever

548
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Speaker 4: that we were forty fifty million apart. You know, we'll

549
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Speaker 4: meet you halfway and let's make this happen. I think

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Speaker 4: that side of it helps. I think you start to

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Speaker 4: sound the alarms once you get about a week I

552
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Speaker 4: would say, two weeks from opening day. Like at that point,

553
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Speaker 4: it's like, you want that guy integrated with your team.

554
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Speaker 4: You want I'm working with your catchers. I think that's

555
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Speaker 4: the biggest part, right, is like working with the catchers.

556
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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about him being ready physically or anything

557
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Speaker 4: like that. Like you said, they're gonna be getting their

558
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Speaker 4: work and they know their bodies better than anybody. But yeah,

559
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Speaker 4: working with catchers and really just being around the team.

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Speaker 4: Once you get about a week and a half out,

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Speaker 4: I got that's something that I would be pretty pretty

562
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Speaker 4: nervous about, especially with the amount of investment that's going

563
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Speaker 4: to be going into some of these guys, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Question number two, who are the best prospects to

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Speaker 1: watch in spring training? Besides the obvious? This was asked

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Speaker 1: by at d Voss eighteen on Instagram. He's going to

567
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Speaker 1: the Rays versus Twins spring training games and the Tigers

568
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Speaker 1: versus the Orioles. Sneaky prospects don't necessarily have to be

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Speaker 1: in those games, but if they are, I'm sure it'll

570
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Speaker 1: help ab out our guy. That's a question for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll let you go first.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 3: I stuck with those two games because, like I think

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Speaker 3: there's a sneaky prospect for a bunch of these guys.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, really fun listening. This week on

576
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: the Call Up, we did rapid Fire for US arm

577
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: and I storylines in each camp revolving prospects. So go

578
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: listen to that if you have interest.

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Speaker 1: I will say for one but yeah, one thing I

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Speaker 1: want to address before you get into the sneaky good prospects.

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Speaker 1: This is the worst podcast in America. For rapid Fire.

582
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Speaker 1: We've been called out so many times, big like quick

583
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Speaker 1: question that we just keep talking. I love it me personally.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get a ton of information, which is awesome.

585
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. But yeah, they call up. It was like,

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Speaker 3: again relatively speaking, rapid fire. We kept it under an

588
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Speaker 3: hour on rapid fire for us. Yes, so Rays. I

589
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Speaker 3: highlighted Dominic Keegan, who I know ARM is very high on.

590
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: Ronnie Simon is another guy that we both love. Uh

591
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Speaker 3: and then now you get Usawa, you'll probably see him

592
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Speaker 3: in like the sixth inning and that'll be fun. He

593
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Speaker 3: signed a minor league deal with the Rays in like December,

594
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Speaker 3: and you know, this is the guy that you know

595
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Speaker 3: was maybe looking at a one year MLB deal, maybe

596
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: he was going to go back to the NPB, but

597
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Speaker 3: he did get that deal. The Twins obviously all eyes

598
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: are on brooks Lee, but you and your Seve Reino

599
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Speaker 3: may hit a ball five hundred feet this spring, and

600
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Speaker 3: then Sean Curzy absolutely flies and he's a non roster

601
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Speaker 3: invite the Tigers. I'm fascinated by the catcher Dylan Dingler,

602
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Speaker 3: and then Eddie s Leonard, who we also talked about

603
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Speaker 3: on the call up, and then the Orioles pitchers, pitchers, pitchers, pitchers,

604
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Speaker 3: bradish Is hurt Means is delayed, talked about Chase McDermott

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Speaker 3: and kad Povic. If those guys look good, I mean,

606
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Speaker 3: why would you entertain the trade when McDermott could be

607
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Speaker 3: the opening day five? And apparently I got a text

608
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Speaker 3: from our friend Brendan Mortenson that Cole Irvin added five

609
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Speaker 3: inches of horizontal break to his sinkers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was like, are you bought in? I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, though, wait, we're not bought in. I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: might see.

615
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Speaker 4: Brendan Sharon propaganda here on Cole Irvan just pumping him up.

616
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Speaker 4: I'll be in when I see him roll like a

617
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Speaker 4: sixty percent ground ball rate for like ten starts, then

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Speaker 4: then then I might be in. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: you hit the nail on the head on a lot

620
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Speaker 4: of these players. There's a few I'm kind of looking

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Speaker 4: more at the double A guys that probably don't have

622
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Speaker 4: a chance to make it out of camp, but could

623
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Speaker 4: really expedite that process. The Mets. There's a few arms

624
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Speaker 4: with the Mets, and I'm just really fascinated to monitor.

625
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Speaker 4: I want to see what Christian Scott can do, because

626
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Speaker 4: I think that's a guy that could break into the

627
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Speaker 4: rotation this year. Really electric fastball that just gets a

628
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Speaker 4: ton off at the top of the zone. You got,

629
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Speaker 4: like Mike Vassel, another arm that I think will be

630
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Speaker 4: close to big league ready at the early parts of

631
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Speaker 4: the year. Those are two guys that I would love

632
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Speaker 4: to see Uasaw was top of my list of like

633
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what he does because I

634
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Speaker 4: thought he deserved a big league deal. Ray snag him

635
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Speaker 4: on a minor league deal because team said concerned about

636
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Speaker 4: the velocity. I think the pitch shapes are great, and

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Speaker 4: you know, all things considered, and I think he could

638
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Speaker 4: end up being a sneaky piece that ends up making

639
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Speaker 4: the team out of camp because they could always use

640
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Speaker 4: more arms. And then Jacob Marci with the Padres. You know,

641
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Speaker 4: the Padres are still try to figure out who's going

642
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: to play center field slash left. They got profar like

643
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: he might you'll probably play a corner outfield, but Marcie

644
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: can play center field. I was really impressed with him

645
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: in the Arizona Fall League. He had a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 4: Can run, he hits just enough, you know, just enough

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Speaker 4: power walks. I think Marci is a guy that if

648
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: he shows out in spring training, could end up breaking

649
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: camp with the Padres. And playing some center field.

650
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say all the guys that you guys said,

651
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: so thanks for filling in for me. Question number three,

652
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Speaker 1: Pick three teams that you think will have one hundred

653
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: wins and three teams with one hundred losses and why?

654
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: Asked by Owen castorline on Ig. Can I go first? Yes,

655
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: We'll start with the one hundred wins Dodgers, Braves. I

656
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: think it's pretty self explanatory. Dodgers, I mean, do we

657
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: need to say why? And Brave's kind of the same thing.

658
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: The third team that I want to throw in there,

659
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: which is also kind of self explanatory, But I don't

660
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: think they're getting enough credit for possibly the best roster

661
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: that they've had in this mini ish dynasty. The Astros

662
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: are loaded, loaded, loaded loaded. The offense. We know Jordon Bregman, Altuve.

663
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: I think Jeremy Panine is gonna be better. I think

664
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: inserting Janner Diez into the catching role instead of Martine

665
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: Maldonado is going to add a ton of impact at

666
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: the plate. Chas McCormick has developed from like this fourth

667
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: outfielder into a legit center fielder or a left fielder.

668
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: Wherever you put them. They have dudes at every position

669
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: on offense, and they're gonna be good defensively. The bullpen

670
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: with Hater Presley a Bray, you might be the best

671
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: back three in a bullpen I've ever seen in my

672
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: baseball watching life. We talked about the Royals back in

673
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: that twenty fifteen twenty fourteen kind of area with Kelvin Herrera,

674
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: Greg Holland and Wayde Davis. I think these guys are better.

675
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: And then we get to the rotation. Verlander is, you know,

676
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: still Vertlander, right, he still had a good year last year.

677
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Framber's gonna bounce back. Christian Xavier I think is still good, right,

678
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: And do you think Kavier is good?

679
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: Peter?

680
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: I do. I obviously think Kavier is good Hunter Brown

681
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: if he takes that next step, which I think he will,

682
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: and I think we all think so. And then they're

683
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna get Luis Garcia back in the middle of this season,

684
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: and in the meantime they have Rakiti. I don't know

685
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: if mcculluchs is gonna be back, but I don't think

686
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: it's going to matter. This Astros team is so freaking good.

687
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna be my World Series pick. You do not

688
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: want to face this team in the postseason, and I

689
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win one hundred games in the regular season.

690
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: Arm Jack wants to go next for one hundred wins.

691
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: I got it on wins. I got one other team

692
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 4: because it's the obvious. You got the low hanging fruit.

693
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 4: You know, you got the team's braves, the daughters. I

694
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: think this is finally the Mariners year where they oh

695
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: one hundred wins.

696
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: Here.

697
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm looking at the team the deficiencies from

698
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: last year, and I feel like they've pretty much answered

699
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: a lot of them. I wanted to see some more

700
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: consistent pop. We all did right, and we thought say

701
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: Oscar would do that. He didn't. Instead, they go get

702
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 4: Mitch Haniger or excuse me, well, they do get Michaniger,

703
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: but Mitch Garver.

704
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Wrong.

705
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: Mitch Garver, I think, is going to provide that thump

706
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: that they needed so badly. Don't even bother putting them

707
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: behind the dish. Love him at the DH spot. I

708
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: actually really liked the Luke Raley get too, because you know,

709
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: if it doesn't work for him in the outfield, and

710
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 4: maybe they get him some reps at first base. If

711
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: Ty France isn't performing ty France can't be worse. I

712
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: love the rotation, obviously, everybody loves the rotation. The bullpen

713
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: continues to just be fantastic. And the thing is is

714
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: they traded a lot of their top prospects to go

715
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: get Luis Castillo, phenomenal trade, and it's worked out extremely

716
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: well for them. But they've rebuilt the system since then,

717
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: and they've got assets now. They've been drafting well, they've

718
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 4: been developing pretty well, and I think if they are

719
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: playing well and look good, they could go make another

720
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: big splash. But adding Polanco to the fold two they've

721
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: got reasonably you could say they've got what six guys

722
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: maybe seven that could hit you twenty home runs next year.

723
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: They haven't had that since they've even been good again,

724
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: right Like, they haven't had a reasonable shot at five

725
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: plus guys hitting you twenty plus. And I think this

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: is the year where Julio Rodriguez assents to the MVP candidacy.

727
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: I think all these things can come together and we

728
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: might have one hundred win team here.

729
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: Wow, Jack, I have the same list as you, Peter

730
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: Low hanging fruit City and Houston is really good.

731
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: Houston is incredible. All right, let's talk the losers teams

732
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: that we think will lose one hundred games and why again,

733
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I think there's too low hanging fruit. And then there's

734
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: the team that you could throw in there, the too

735
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. Unfortunately, October is probably looking at a

736
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: hundred losses. There's another from the Zoom update number two.

737
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: The Oakland A's are probably looking at one hundred losses.

738
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: Now you can say three might be the Nationals. I'm

739
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: going to go a different route. The Miami Marlins are

740
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: going to lose a hundred games here this season.

741
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 3: No.

742
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: I went through their team. There is a path here.

743
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Did have you seen the YouTube video?

744
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great YouTube video. Credit to Will Cohen.

745
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Cohen kicked and Tayton Peyton helped than that too.

746
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: Ayton kicked.

747
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: But the reason I am fading the Marlin so hard

748
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: is I look at this team and like there are

749
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: a couple injuries away from their key guys to having

750
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: literally nobody. They have no depth. Hayseus Zardo is the

751
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: ace and you got a twenty one year old on

752
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: an innings limit as your number two. Right, If anything

753
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: bad happens to any of those guys, This is one

754
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: of the weaker rotations, it's one of the weaker bullpens,

755
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: and if you look at each individual on the field,

756
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: they're all like zero point four f War guys because

757
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: they're terrible defenders. They lost Brent Brown, they lost the

758
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: hitting coach that all the all the guys in the

759
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: lineup were saying, this was the guy who helped us

760
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: with all, you know, just getting ready for a game,

761
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: and now he's the Seattle Mariners hitting coach, which speaks

762
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: to you here, one hundred win pick for the Mariners.

763
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I think this team could be a literal disaster in

764
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

765
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: I think it's fair. I think I think they're the

766
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 4: pitching's too good to to lose one hundred. I think

767
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: you struggle to find a team with pitching like that

768
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: that's lost one hundred games in the last few years

769
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: or ten years even. But I do think they're going

770
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: to struggle to win more than.

771
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Since the thing though, they had a pretty good rotation

772
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two when Sandy won the unanimous Cy

773
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: Young and they won sixty nine games. That's seven wins

774
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: away from losing one hundred. So that's what I'm thinking here.

775
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: They don't have Sandy's innings this year, and the last

776
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: time they were over seventy eight and a half was

777
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Last time before that twenty ten. Like, they've

778
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: had a lot of terrible seasons with good pitching staffs.

779
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: That's why if anything happens to Lozardo, this could be

780
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: a nightmare.

781
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: So in twenty twenty two, their starting lineup, they had

782
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: one player with an OPS or sorry, two but you

783
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: can't count jazz. They played sixty games, so they had

784
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: one qualified player with an OPS over seven hundred one.

785
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: It was Garrett Cooper seven to fifty two. Everybody else

786
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: was either in high five hundreds or mid six hundreds.

787
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 4: The next best was Jorge Solaire at six ninety five.

788
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: Oh so that team sucked ass. It's interesting. I think

789
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: that's not a bad pick because I could see the

790
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: wheels really fall off and then they'll trade and you know,

791
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 4: just deplete the team outside of the obvious looking around. Look,

792
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: I know the Angels are out here saying, oh yeah,

793
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: like we can compete, blah blah blah blah blah, Like

794
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I don't think they do. The White Sox are obviously

795
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 4: losing one hundred games. I think though, like I don't

796
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: see I feel very confident that the White Sox lose

797
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 4: around one hundred games. Is that? Is that not fair?

798
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: Jack?

799
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: Like, I'm just looking at what they're going to be

800
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: rolling out on a daily basis, pitching wise, because I

801
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: ultimately think when you have one hundred lost team, it's

802
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 4: really about the pitching. Like it's it's just this this

803
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 4: disaster that four out of the five days, you're pretty

804
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: much at a scheduled disadvantage. And I'm assuming they trade

805
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: Dylan Cis at some point in the season. But even

806
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: if they don't, who's your number two? Who would you consider?

807
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: Because I'll tell you I actually would consider the White

808
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 4: Sox number two. I swear to god, I'm not even

809
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: just trying to be funny. Eric Fetty, yes, I have.

810
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: I think Eric Fetti finishes with a lower ERA than

811
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: Michael Kopek. Then you have Mike Soroka, Chris Flexen, and

812
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be an open audition. It's gonna

813
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: be a legitimately open tryouts for whoever else wants to

814
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: grab a spot in the rotation. You know, they have

815
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: the fourteen guys they got for Aaron bummer. They have

816
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: a few other arms that they could sprinkle in there.

817
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 4: It's gonna be an opening competition with guys failing left

818
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: and right. Maybe a couple guys end up grabbing a spot,

819
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: but they're gonna throw away a lot of games. I

820
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 4: think the White Sox finished with one of the worst

821
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: records in Major League Baseball. It's not like the offense

822
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: is that good. I like some of the moves they made,

823
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: but they're not gonna be able to outslug, you know,

824
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: teams that they're facing with with that pitching staff.

825
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Jack, you had such a funny tweet about the White Sox,

826
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: you know graphic about like we're ready for spring trading,

827
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: and it was like it was like a bench at

828
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Bill Disease.

829
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: It was so pitchers and catchers reporting. The graphic was

830
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: Cease at the top and then it was like Crochet Maldonado, Baroca,

831
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: Martine Maldonado and Max Stassy And I said, the catchers

832
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three f war of this graphic outside

833
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: of Dylan Ceese was negative one point two.

834
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: Like dude, I was seeing the bullpen.

835
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I was about to get into the book and

836
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, Peter, I was like,

837
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: have you seen the White Sox pitching staff? I think

838
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: Jordan Leisure is a closer. We talked about that on

839
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: the call up, like he should be the closer. This

840
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: guy has yet to log a major league pitch, and

841
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: I think he should be the closer on opening day, John.

842
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: Breby, He's no Yamamoto, who hasn't thrown that ady, dude.

843
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: Forty year old Jesse Chavez, a non roster invite tee,

844
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: is lining up like a closer right now.

845
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: For the Wise.

846
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw a one hundred and fifty innings this year,

847
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: Jesse Chovez.

848
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: Dude, I mean this is one of the worst pitching

849
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: staffs I've seen in recent memories. So the White Sox

850
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: are my third one hundred lost team.

851
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: Mm hm, yeah, that's that's probably the right answer. But

852
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get a little bit crazy.

853
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: They even had the worst real five pick. I think

854
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to throw an I didn't understand, Like, I

855
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: still don't get that one.

856
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Like in fast Bot, did they pick a high in

857
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: the Rule five draft.

858
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: Like six or seventh.

859
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 4: There was a lot of arms they could have taken

860
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: instead of Shane Johan and and Johan's gonna I don't

861
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 4: think it's gonna do very well. So yeah, I mean

862
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: other than Crochet and you know leisure, I like Brebia

863
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: like that's it. Like this bullpick even when they have

864
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: the lead, this bullpen is going to kill them.

865
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Yes, good luck Suicago White Sox. All right, question number four.

866
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: We're staying on the shitting on people theme. Thoughts on

867
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: the Anthony Rendon and Levi Stout dramas as Bye how

868
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: An underscore medcalf on Twitter. So I think all of

869
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: us are aware of what Anthony Rendon has said, and

870
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: I'll read the exact quote for you in a minute.

871
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: But Levi Stout, I had heard this, but it's not

872
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: really over social media unless you're in red circles or

873
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: possibly Seattle Mariners circles. But here's what he said, and

874
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: I quote it was different, he told the Seattle Times.

875
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of i'd say lack of direction.

876
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: In my sense, it was kind of not much of

877
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: a philosophy. It was kind of just go play baseball

878
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: and will help you along the way. That's the most

879
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: exciting thing for me is to get back to that

880
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: process of them looking at me and saying, all right,

881
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: this is what we know and what we can do

882
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: to make you the best version of himself. So Levi

883
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: Stout is basically shitting on the Reds development. Let's talk

884
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Levi Stout before we talk Anthony Rendon arm.

885
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: So Stout the throw in in that Luis has to Castillo.

886
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Trade, no wast the Winker deal.

887
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was the u Hennio Suarez Winker deal, right.

888
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: He was Williamson Connor Phillipson Stout.

889
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, So here's the thing. I hear what

890
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: he's saying, and that's first of all, I think the

891
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 4: trend of these two totally different situations is that it's

892
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: things that a lot of players feel that you just

893
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: keep to yourself because it comes off as an excuse.

894
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, and like I

895
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: will never throw I wish I could be as good

896
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 4: at any athletic endeavors as Levi Stout is. I mean,

897
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: the guy's big league time, like that's everybody's dream. But

898
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you have to have

899
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: some more accountability for your performance. And at the end

900
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: of the day, no one's making you give up bombs.

901
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: You know, they're maybe not helping you get out the

902
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: same way. And I understand that. But here's the thing,

903
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: Levi Stout has one pitch. It's a slider. That's one pitch.

904
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: Everything else he didn't throw first strike. I can tell

905
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 4: you right now. This includes strip away final fifteen starts,

906
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: at the appearances starts of the season, he went. Did

907
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: his slider first strike seventy percent of the time, his

908
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: fastball first strike fifty six percent of the time, his

909
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: change up first strike forty six percent of the time,

910
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: and his curveball is strike forty fifty one percent of

911
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: the time. So when you're every pitch but the fastball

912
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: is a strike barely half the time, you know barely

913
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: more than half the time, and it's getting bombed. Like

914
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: what plan do they want you? What do you what

915
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: do you want them to tell you? Like they want

916
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: you want them to change your arsenal, change your pitch shape,

917
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: Like do you want them to make your fastball not

918
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: have a twelve sixteen ops against? Like I understand what

919
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: he's saying. It's it's but you have to have some

920
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: accountability for what you're doing. And I think that's I

921
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: think it's unfair to to to the Reds to just

922
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: come out and put him on blast like that, as

923
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: if you know you don't have more autonomy over your success.

924
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: I just I thought those quotes were kind of kind

925
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: of laying to be honest, and he could be an

926
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: awesome guy and he could be just airing out some

927
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: frustration and I hear him, I get it, air it

928
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: out privately, you know, And you could you could say

929
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: that without saying you could just say the Mariners are

930
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: very forward thinking pitching wise. I'm excited to be in

931
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: one of the best organizations that when it comes to

932
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: pitching development, you said everything you need to say without

933
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: saying it, you know. I just I think there needs

934
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: to be more accountability there.

935
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I fully agree. I never blame a player for

936
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: sticking to the script in media scrums, because those are

937
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: where you get outed. And I fully fully empathize with

938
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: the players that want to show a little bit of

939
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 3: personality and want to show a little bit of brain

940
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: power and they get dinged because they worded something poorly.

941
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: And I think this was worded poorly, and this was

942
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 3: a frustration that he could have expressed privately. I'm one

943
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: hundred percent with arm The rendome thing you guys don't

944
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: mind me pivoting real quick.

945
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just say one thing before we move on

946
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: to Anthony Rendon. When I first heard the comments, I

947
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: did laugh because I also thought to myself, is he wrong?

948
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Like you might not be wrong, Like the Reds have

949
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: not objectively done a great job with pitching development, right,

950
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: compared to other teams. It's been better lately, Right, guys

951
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: like Andrew Abbott have come up the system. They have

952
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: a lot of young guns. Things are looking better, right

953
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: you draft Ret Louder. Reds fans are understandably excited about that,

954
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: and they should be. But maybe in the past ten years,

955
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: maybe in the past twenty years, like the Reds has

956
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: not been a starting pitching hot bet right, so there

957
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: might be some truth to what he is saying. However,

958
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: I one thousand million percent agreed with the both of you.

959
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: Why say it? I mean nothing good is going to

960
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: come from it. There's a difference between not using what

961
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: your agent or whoever you're working with, hands you a

962
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: script and then just saying things that have no no

963
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: positivity to it, like right, Jack, like you make a

964
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: bet right, where it's like, yeah, I bet all the time. No,

965
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: it's like you could punch me in the face if

966
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I get this wrong. There's no upside for you. There's

967
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: no upside in what Levi Stout is saying. No one's

968
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna come to his aid and be like, you know what, Levi,

969
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: I was so insightful of you. There's no upside to it.

970
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: And again look at to talk about.

971
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I would say, Luke Weaver is going to

972
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: chime in and be like, yeah, it meets too. Yeah,

973
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: they screwed me too, Like I just I don't, I don't,

974
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: I don't get it. Abbot, Abbot seemed to do well.

975
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw flashes of ashcraft showing some great things,

976
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 4: you know, but I agree, I mean, they haven't developed great.

977
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: But now it puts pressure. It's like, all right, you

978
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: got all the resources you need. Now you've got a plan.

979
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: Let's see what it looks like now that you have

980
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 4: those resources. So I think it puts a little bit more,

981
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: you know, pressure on him now to perform now that

982
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 4: you're out of that hell hole for pitching development.

983
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Sure love that you said that, because I was going

984
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: to add that at the end too. It puts pressure

985
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: on himself what he is with the mracters now now

986
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: you've got to prove it, dude. Yeah, one guy who

987
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: has failed to prove anything, Anthony Rendo. Here's the quote.

988
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: It's never been a top priority for me when speaking

989
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: about playing ball. It's a job. I do this to

990
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: make a living. My faith and my family come first

991
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: before this job. So if things come before it, I'm leaving.

992
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: It's a priority. I'm here, aren't I This is my job.

993
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm here.

994
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: Jack, is it a priority or is it not?

995
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand jack first reaction.

996
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: It seems like it is the third priority in his life.

997
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. That's fine, And there are way

998
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: more players in Major League Baseball than any fan would

999
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: care to admit that just few playing baseball is a

1000
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: job that they do really well and get paid really

1001
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: well to do that job. I will never knock a

1002
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: player for just viewing it as a job and a

1003
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: way to make a living. But this was the wrong

1004
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: guy to say it, Like anybody else could have said

1005
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: something like this, And I'm like, okay, yeah, Like you're

1006
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 3: gonna get heat from people that you know how I

1007
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: haven't been through the minor league grind like you, And

1008
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: aren't you know, arriving to a hotel at four am, Like,

1009
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: I get it. Like, and here's the thing, the struggles

1010
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: and the downside of being a professional athlete, that that

1011
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: changes ten years into your career. Hell, even like three

1012
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: years into your career, right, you get to the big leagues,

1013
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: you're just so happy to be on a charter flight.

1014
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: Then flights start to suck four years down the road

1015
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: because you're doing it all the time and you're away

1016
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: from your family.

1017
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking about the three year thing, once you

1018
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: play three years in Major League Baseball, like three years

1019
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: of service time, you get a pension for life on

1020
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: top of it. So I just wanted to add to

1021
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: that three year point. It might be then all right,

1022
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm locked in for life to get paid forever.

1023
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: Wait is it the biggest pension is ten years? I

1024
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: know ten years, tens where you get like everything tends

1025
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: where you get everything.

1026
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: But I know, three years you get a guaranteed pension

1027
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. Got it.

1028
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: I will say, like, I had personally no problem with

1029
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: him prioritizing faith and family over for baseball. For him

1030
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: to say that publicly, like the jackass that he's been

1031
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: the last three years, he and like what he has

1032
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: failed to do since COVID, since he really signed this deal,

1033
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: he was the wrong guy to deliver this message.

1034
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: Arm before you give your point, just to put things

1035
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: in perspective. Since twenty twenty one, he has played in

1036
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty eight Angels games. That is thirty

1037
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: point four percent of the total games played by the

1038
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: Angels in the last three seasons. So he's there every

1039
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: third day.

1040
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 4: So that's that's the problem is you know, when you're

1041
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: not available, and this is the thing, is you haven't

1042
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: actually really been doing your job. So it's one thing

1043
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: to say, yeah, you know, my job. Sometimes it feels

1044
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: like a job. But if you're doing it, then it's fine, right,

1045
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 4: But when you're available once out of every three games

1046
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: and you're playing at a mediocre level at best, when

1047
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: you are available and you're you're dodging media and you're

1048
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: grabbing fans by the by the shirt and like like

1049
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 4: like you're a middle school bully. Like there's little things

1050
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 4: like that where it's just like, okay, now I'm starting

1051
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: to question whether not only whether you you know, actually

1052
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: like your jobs, whether you're even willing to do the job.

1053
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: So when you go out and say things like that. Yeah,

1054
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: there's so many players that feel that way and they

1055
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: keep it to themselves and they work hard and they

1056
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: do their job. But when it comes from someone who's

1057
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: not really been doing his job and makes more money

1058
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 4: than the vast majority of the league, I think it's

1059
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: a little bit frustrating for fans to hear, you know.

1060
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: I think if and people are comparing it to like Yokic. Right,

1061
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 4: if Yokic came out out right and said I don't

1062
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 4: love basketball, I'm not complaining about it. If I'm a

1063
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: Nuggets fan because the guy's winning you titles and he's

1064
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 4: winning MVPs like he's a superstar. I wish, you know,

1065
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: everybody wants them to like it more, because no one

1066
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: wants to watch someone play a game that they love

1067
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 4: and have them not like it as much. It just

1068
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 4: makes it less fun. But that's the reality of it. Sometimes.

1069
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: The thing with Rendon is he strikes me like like

1070
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 4: an edgy team if you watch, like if you watch

1071
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: the interviews, he likes to get the reaction he loves.

1072
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: He literally is like that edgy team that doesn't get

1073
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 4: enough attention and wants to like ruffle feathers and rile

1074
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: people up. And that's the weird thing to me, is

1075
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: like he loves to stick it to people. He loves

1076
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: to stir the pot. And that's exactly what he was doing.

1077
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: He wanted us to be doing this right now. He

1078
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: loves it. He knew. He's a smart guy man, like

1079
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: he knew what he was doing. And that's the frustrating

1080
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: part for me, is like I watch a guy that

1081
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: is going out of his way to stir the pot

1082
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 4: and piss people off and rub people the wrong way

1083
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: just so he can say, oh, like, I'm sorry you

1084
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 4: feel that way.

1085
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care what the intention that it brings.

1086
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: He likes being the edgy team.

1087
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: He's he's forcing a reaction so he can in turn

1088
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: say I don't care what you think about me, and

1089
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: it's it's stupid.

1090
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 4: He's mature.

1091
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: He's like an edgy teen mixed with a forty five

1092
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: year old accountant who's been balancing sheets for the past

1093
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: twenty five years. And he's like, this job, yeah, it's

1094
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: a priority. I'm here, I get paid well, but it's

1095
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: not at the top of my priority list. And I

1096
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: also thought about it this way too, Like arm you

1097
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: brought up right, Nikole Jokic, who is the best player

1098
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and when he made those comments about

1099
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: not loving basketball, he's like, I just want to go

1100
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: home to Serbia. I don't want to go to the parade.

1101
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: A parade is what you get for winning an NBA title,

1102
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: and he's a multiple time MVP. I think back to back.

1103
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest basketball if you think it's back

1104
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: to back. But I was also thinking even smaller than that.

1105
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: If Marcus Semion came out and had these comments after

1106
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: missing seven games in seven years or whatever it is,

1107
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: give a shit. Nobody would give a shit, right, And yeah,

1108
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: he happened to win a title, but even if the

1109
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: Rangers didn't, I think people would laugh and joke and

1110
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: be like, no, wonder he thinks it's a job. He

1111
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: has a missed the game in seven years. At Rendon,

1112
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: you are not in the Marcus Semion bucket at all.

1113
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: And I think it pisses a lot of fans off too,

1114
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: just that inner kid in everybody. You're telling me you

1115
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: don't want to play professional baseball and get paid, That's

1116
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: what you're telling me. So I think it hits home

1117
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: with a lot of fans and hit home with me

1118
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: because I can't imagine somebody not thinking baseball is that.

1119
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: I get it. Family and faith, sure, but like the

1120
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: ultimate right, we'd play for free, to play Major League Baseball.

1121
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: So I understand that these guys feel a certain way.

1122
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: I have kids that I'm not.

1123
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't, I would, but I understand that some

1124
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: of these guys have been playing for years feel this way.

1125
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: But again, it's the same point. There's no upside to

1126
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: what he is saying at all.

1127
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: Oh his upside, and his upside is stir the pot

1128
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 4: and piss people off. He clearly gets off.

1129
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: To it, and he gets paid to do so, which

1130
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: is so unfortunate. A lot anything else from move on

1131
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: to question five. All right, question number five, you've been

1132
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: selected to seceed Rob Manfred in twenty twenty nine. What's

1133
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: the first change you would try to implement to improve

1134
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: the game? Asked by at Ryan Brody fourteen on Twitter.

1135
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: And if you didn't know, Rob Manfred is done as

1136
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: commissioner in the twenty twenty nine MLB season.

1137
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 3: No more.

1138
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: Rob Manfred personally be happy about it. I made a

1139
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: TikTok grittying to it. I'm very happy. I don't think

1140
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: we need him anymore.

1141
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 4: Maybe that's how you got that the sty Maybe.

1142
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: He's sending it's Vlattie, it's Rob Manfred and it's the Marlins, just.

1143
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 4: Like the right there, just got some dirt in there

1144
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: by accident grittying to bacteria.

1145
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, bacteria. Yeah, I have number one and it's just

1146
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: been my thing forever. And blackouts and blackouts immediately right,

1147
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: And it sounds simple, right, some more fans can watch.

1148
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: But the more fans watch, the more popular the game

1149
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: is going to be. You have to find a way

1150
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: to end the blackouts. Now. I don't even know if

1151
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: that's a Rob Manfred thing. I know it's like a

1152
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: TV deal thing, but I know he has his hands

1153
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: in that bucket. At least I know he could at

1154
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: least make some changes there. It makes no sense that

1155
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm in New York and unless I get the S network,

1156
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: I can't watch the Yankees, or that person in Ohio

1157
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: who can't watch the Reds or anybody across the country

1158
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: who can't watch their local team because of these TV

1159
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: deals causing blackouts makes no sense to me. And if

1160
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: you end them, you will have more people watching baseball.

1161
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: It's a literal no brainer. Other than money.

1162
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 4: And the irony is most of these companies are you know,

1163
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: not even paying out the money and the deal that

1164
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 4: they agree to, and then it's blacked out anyway. So

1165
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: you have these companies defaulting on their deal, and then

1166
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 4: I can't watch for the MLB package that I paid for,

1167
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 4: even though the team that's blocking my ability to watch

1168
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 4: it in my area didn't even pay all of the

1169
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: money that they owe the team for the television rights,

1170
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: which just is is broken. It makes no sense at all.

1171
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: You got your rule, Jack. I got two things that

1172
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 4: are very like One is obviously just an arm thing,

1173
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: but like that I doubt many people care about.

1174
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: So no more onions. No more onions at stadium.

1175
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: No onions in any ballpark in the area. You can

1176
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 4: have one to get the Blue Jays can have onions, that's.

1177
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: It, sure, Yeah, just not in the continental US. I've

1178
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: got one that I assume you guys will just kind

1179
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: of nod along to, and then one that maybe contentious.

1180
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: I want the ABS Challenge system in I want the

1181
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: challenge system in baseball. I you know, I would love

1182
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: to have that. I don't want the full ABS system

1183
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: in at all, because then that takes away human error,

1184
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: And I think human error is important, but I would

1185
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: like for that human error to be able to be corrected.

1186
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: And that is what the challenge system does. And I've

1187
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: loved it in TRIPAA.

1188
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially in big moments, right, Like you know, we

1189
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: don't need to review every other at bat, but if

1190
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: it's a you know, a three to one count and

1191
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 4: it's a difference between a full count or a base

1192
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: runner in the ninth inning, Like yeah, that's why I

1193
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 4: want to see the challenge. And I'd pay a lot

1194
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: of money to watch Josh Donaldson challenge and lose and

1195
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 4: get wrung up on a ball that like you watch

1196
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: the tennis challenges like that just like scrapes the edge

1197
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 4: of the strike zone and you just got to watch

1198
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: that guy walk back to the dugout, Like I need

1199
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 4: a Josh Donaldson on a challenge before he returns.

1200
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: If Donaldson have a job right now, I don't know.

1201
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: I don't think so maybe he'll be in triple A

1202
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: so I'll see that anyways. And here's the thing, Like

1203
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 4: you know that that guy is one of the very

1204
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: few that will still argue with the home plate on

1205
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: pirate after he sees the challenge. If he could do something.

1206
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the tech, like the computer just rung you up.

1207
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: My other one, I want the five best records in

1208
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: each league making the postseason. That eliminates the idea of

1209
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: a division winner going to the DS immediately. But I

1210
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: would like the top three in each league to go

1211
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: to the DS four and five to play a three

1212
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: best a three game wildcard set, and then the best

1213
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: record in the National League sees that winner of four

1214
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 3: and five. So a true kind of seating system. I

1215
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: would like that because you know, like, I don't need

1216
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: to see the eighty two win Guardians in the postseason.

1217
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: I really don't. When you've got a team like Toronto

1218
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: that was pinched last year.

1219
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: What if I bet on them to make the play?

1220
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: Is that cool?

1221
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, sure, go ahead this year.

1222
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: But no, no, But I totally love this idea too,

1223
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: because this schedule has changed, right. You don't play your

1224
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: division as many times anymore, especially this year. Every team

1225
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: is going to play every team in Major League Baseball.

1226
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: So the more interleague play we get, the more teams

1227
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: are facing teams that they haven't played before, and the

1228
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: less impact it is on the divisional matchups. It made

1229
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: sense when the Yankees and the Red Sox would play

1230
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: twenty times a year, and the White Sox and the

1231
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Twins would play twenty That's just not the case anymore.

1232
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: So I love that idea. I'd be pro that good shit, it.

1233
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: Does take away from the identity of a division, Like

1234
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: could you even name the NBA divisions? There's like a

1235
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: Pacific in Atlantic and all that shit. It doesn't matter,

1236
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: it's just where do you align in the Eastern Conference.

1237
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: I think that's fine. I get like the AL Central

1238
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: has an identity, but like, if you're the five seed

1239
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: in the American League, I think that's way more interesting.

1240
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: A battle for the five seed. Then oh well, you're

1241
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: battling for that second wild card spot, even though a

1242
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: team that has six fewer wins than you is going

1243
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 3: to get a postseason birth anyways.

1244
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: I actually think it could force new rivalries potentially, right,

1245
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: Like you're a fifth and a sixth seed battling. Those

1246
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: games are going to be contentious and like we may see,

1247
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Ray's face off against the Mariners and

1248
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: they're starting to throw at each other because like, this

1249
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: game matters a ton. So it may not be the

1250
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: division identity, but you're still going to get crazy competitive

1251
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: games regardless of that. Yes, it takes away a little

1252
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: bit from the identity, but at the same time, I mean,

1253
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: how much does that matter on I think.

1254
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 4: It does a little bit. That's probably my only concern

1255
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: with it is I look at the NBA. They had

1256
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 4: like rivalry Week or whatever the hell that was a

1257
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, and I was like, are those

1258
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: teams even rivals like that? There's not really And and

1259
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: the problem is with a division, you're gonna have the

1260
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 4: same teams going at it for the same spots for

1261
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: the most part every year, whereas the other five and

1262
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 4: six seed could be different, you know, every couple of

1263
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 4: years or every year. So that part of it is

1264
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: a little bit of a concern. And I think with

1265
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: baseball like you do have. I mean, it's been really

1266
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 4: fun as we've continued to just do a national show,

1267
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: seeing how much contention there is, especially in the NL Central.

1268
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: I look at the NFL Central, I'm like, I love it. Cubs, Brewers,

1269
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 4: Cardinals hate each other, and now the Pirates are trying

1270
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 4: to get in and like, let me add I'm like

1271
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: scrappy do and maybe they'll get in there. But like

1272
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 4: it's just fun to see like it's fun to see that.

1273
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: Of course, you always had it in the AL but

1274
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: now the Yankees and Red Sox have kind of ruined

1275
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 4: that in the AL East a little bit.

1276
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: But you don't want to see Clerk Schmidt taking on

1277
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: you know.

1278
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: That's my not there's my commissioner answer. I will stop

1279
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 4: ESPN games of the Red Sox and Yankees until both

1280
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: teams are good again. Lease, But then my actual answer

1281
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 4: is that one I would expedite expansion. I think that's

1282
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 4: one of the best things that Major League Baseball can do.

1283
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Speaker 4: Let's have thirty two teams. Nashville I think needs to

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Speaker 4: have a team. It's one of my favorite minor league

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Speaker 4: parks I've been to. And then you know, Salt Lake

1286
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Speaker 4: City wherever you can figure out the other one. I

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: just think having two more cities involved here would be

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Speaker 4: huge for baseball because baseball just does a really good

1289
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Speaker 4: job for the most part of engaging the community and

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Speaker 4: being something that you know you could do every single

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Speaker 4: day and follow and both of those areas would really

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Speaker 4: I think grab on to the team and support them well.

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Speaker 4: The others you know, and this is probably not a

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Speaker 4: hugely popular thing. But I just think it's so easy

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Speaker 4: and simple to do. I would love to see these

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Speaker 4: minor league games have some better coverage. And we've seen

1297
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Speaker 4: the spring breakout thing, but how about like you have

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Speaker 4: a matchup of the week or a matchup even a

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Speaker 4: couple games a month like air on MLB Network with

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Speaker 4: an actual television crew and cover an actual minor league game.

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Speaker 4: And I think you could actually generate a lot more

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Speaker 4: interest and attention to it if I tell you, I mean,

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Speaker 4: look at how many people watch the College World Series,

1304
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 4: watch Ret Loud or pitch against Paul Skeens. I know

1305
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 4: it's a little bit different because it's a College World

1306
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 4: Series and you have, you know, team pride and school

1307
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 4: Pride and things like that, and those were two draft

1308
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 4: guys right before you know they're they're gonna go and

1309
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 4: all that good stuff. But you know, I think if

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Speaker 4: I tell you, hey, you know, you get two of

1311
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 4: the best pitching prospects squaring off and some of these

1312
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 4: teams are so loaded, and you can watch that on

1313
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Speaker 4: MLB Network, I think it would be a blast. And

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Speaker 4: that's something that I think would really help promote the

1315
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 4: minor leagues, promote these players, and it doesn't take much

1316
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 4: a couple games a month that I think people would

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: would definitely gravitate towards.

1318
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Speaker 3: I'm with you because the long standing problem with minor

1319
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Speaker 3: league baseball is if you do not have an MiLB

1320
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: TV subscription, these guys disappear after college until they get

1321
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 3: to the big leagues. You don't watch your team's top

1322
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: prospects because you don't have MiLB TV. And I get it,

1323
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: and I think MiLB TV is a great purchase personally

1324
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 3: because I'm on there every night for six months. But

1325
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: it's like it is a helpful tool for people, but

1326
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: it's not. It's not the level of an ESPN Plus

1327
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: like a deal as simple as like ESPN plus. If

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Speaker 3: it was, hey, we were streaming on MiLB TV but

1329
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: also ESPN Plus. There you go. You have fans that

1330
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 3: are basketball fans that got it for college basketball that

1331
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: are tuning into minor league baseball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So the last thing I'll add on that is

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Speaker 4: you have a situation here where like some of these

1334
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Speaker 4: teams have become so loaded, Like you're telling me that

1335
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Speaker 4: you wouldn't watch you got the Norfolk Tides versus Durham

1336
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 4: Bulls and the Triple A championship in Las Vegas, which

1337
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: is just a lot of fun. You got Jackson Holliday,

1338
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 4: Colton Kowser, Kobe Mayo, Joe Ortiz, Kvee Povich was on

1339
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Speaker 4: the bump for Norfolk, then Durham. You know, depending I

1340
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: don't remember exactly what was going on there in terms

1341
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: of who was in the big leagues at the time

1342
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Speaker 4: and who wasn't. I don't think they were with the team,

1343
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: but you could have realistically had a junior Common Arrow

1344
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 4: and a Curtis Mean and so many different exciting young

1345
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 4: players squaring off in Vegas for the championship in Triple A,

1346
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 4: and those guys actually cared about it. Once you get there,

1347
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 4: you're in Vegas, like you might as well go win,

1348
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 4: and those guys cared about winning. That would be something

1349
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: that a three game set, you put that on TV.

1350
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Speaker 4: I genuinely think people would it. Are you gonna make

1351
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 4: millions of dollars? No? But I think it's really good

1352
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: for the overall. I just think interest in the sport

1353
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 4: following these minor leaguers. So much money is going into

1354
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 4: cards and all this stuff. And then the last thing is,

1355
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 4: you know, I think they're doing these spring breakout games

1356
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: for a reason. Let's keep building on that and draw

1357
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: some more interest in the minor leagues. The broadcast the

1358
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: camera angles aren't good enough, and it's it's just tough

1359
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: to see you a lot of the time with a

1360
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Speaker 4: lot of these affiliates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, arm I'm just thinking about your incredible card collection too,

1362
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: like you mentioned that right in passing a little bit.

1363
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Speaker 1: How impactful has it been to be able to watch

1364
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Speaker 1: all these minor leaguers.

1365
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Speaker 4: It's fun by their.

1366
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Speaker 1: Cards and stock goes up on them, right, Yeah, that's

1367
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: like a big reason why some people get involved in

1368
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: baseball in the first place, is they view buying cards

1369
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: as like buying stocks, And imagine if that was just

1370
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: readily available, you get more people into the hobby, and

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Speaker 1: then that's just better for baseball as well.

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Speaker 4: One percent Dynasty Fantasy too, like you know, you can

1373
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 4: watch your guys on TV that you have, Like, that's

1374
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 4: that's interesting.

1375
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Speaker 1: Question number six And this one was our most asked question,

1376
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: and there was like six or seven different versions of it.

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01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: So I apologize for not crediting everybody, but at least,

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01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we're talking about these guys and

1379
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Speaker 1: the questions surround Hunter Green and Spencer Streider adding new pitches.

1380
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Speaker 1: And I understand why a lot of fans are asking

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Speaker 1: about it because right there's not a ton of headlines

1382
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Speaker 1: coming out of spring training. But to hear that two

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Speaker 1: guys who have two dominant pitches who could develop third

1384
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Speaker 1: pitches and really take that next step up, right, Spencer Schreider,

1385
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: him taking the next step up is like from potential

1386
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: Cy Young to like automatic Cy Young. But Hunter Green

1387
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Speaker 1: is a big guy to be adding potentially a splitter

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Speaker 1: or a curveball or a change up. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Hunter Green first, then will end on

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Speaker 1: Spencer Streider. Do any of you guys want to the

1391
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Speaker 1: floor is yours? For Hunter Green, I.

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Speaker 3: Will say, if you struggle to throw a change up,

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01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 3: it is so good that the splitter is being like

1394
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 3: introduced one mass to baseball. Again, so many hard throwers

1395
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 3: that are fastball slider are adding a splitter because it's

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Speaker 3: easier to cut speed and cut spin than a change up.

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Speaker 3: And are I'm sure is going to get into it,

1398
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: but like, you don't really have to have your hand

1399
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 3: move a different way with a splitter. It's like you're

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 3: throwing that at full speed. It's the grip that does

1401
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: everything for you. So it's a good way to have

1402
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: something that isn't like running glove side or cutting glove side.

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of these guys we talk about,

1404
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 4: you're like, you know, either a pronator or supernator. Supernatter

1405
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: is gonna be a guy that spins the hell out

1406
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 4: of the ball. Pronator's gonna be a guy that can

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 4: really throw a change up. Usually guys are one or

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 4: the other. A lot of these Japanese unbelievable freaks, like

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01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 4: in terms of what they can do with the baseball,

1410
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 4: can do both. But you know, I think it's one

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: of those things that you hear a lot of the

1412
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 4: lore of like, oh, new pitch, we're trying it. It's

1413
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 4: kind of the same thing as like guy taking VP

1414
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 4: and it's like, oh his swing looks different. It's nothing.

1415
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's something, and I think you got to take

1416
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 4: it case by case. Look, Hunter green splitter doesn't need

1417
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 4: to be good. It's just got to be better than

1418
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 4: whatever his change up looked like, which is change up

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01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 4: just looked like a It looked like a firm, ninety

1420
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 4: mile an hour fastball at times like it just it

1421
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 4: just was not a change up. So I think if

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Speaker 4: it's just half decent and it can change eye levels

1423
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Speaker 4: and give a third look, makes a huge difference. And

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01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 4: I look at Strider like Strider's obviously a souperinnater in

1425
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: terms of like he rips things, he likes to spin it.

1426
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: Guys that have been able to separate two breaking balls

1427
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 4: can have a lot of success. I'm probably buying the

1428
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 4: Strider curveball more than I'm buying the Green splitter because

1429
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 4: I think it's easier to do. But the thing is

1430
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 4: those curve that those pitches could blend a little bit,

1431
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 4: but I still think that's fine. It's enough of a

1432
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:52,919
Speaker 4: taste breaker. So I'm I'm more bullish on the Strider

1433
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: new pitch, but I am very interested to see what

1434
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: it looks like for Green because if it's anything decent,

1435
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: I think it'll help the play the fastball playoff too,

1436
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 4: which can can tend to be a little flat.

1437
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Strider really needs a pitch against righties. If you

1438
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: look at his splits, he was definitely worse off against

1439
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: right handed bats. You saw a lot of guys just

1440
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of sitting dead red fastball and just kind of

1441
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: taking on the Slider, and they were punishing the fastball

1442
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: in cases. Most cases they weren't because it's one hundred

1443
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: to twenty inches of induced vertical break and it's just

1444
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: going by it. You can sit there and wait on it,

1445
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: but it's still a hard pitch to hit. But if

1446
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: guys are timing it up, I saw a lot of

1447
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: opposite field home runs, like even in the playoffs, right

1448
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: the Phillies ambushed him on these fastballs and we're just

1449
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: crushing them. So if he can get a good pitch

1450
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: against righties, which seems weird with a guy like Spencer Strider,

1451
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: you would assume he'd be better off against righty's if

1452
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: you look at the splits, he actually hasn't been. But

1453
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: adding those third pitches you can pitch to both rightis

1454
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: and lefties, not to mention just having a third look

1455
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: so guys aren't just sitting on two different pitches, is

1456
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: incredibly impactful.

1457
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially because the changeup was just kind of on.

1458
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: There was a couple that he mixed in that we're

1459
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 4: good here and there, but he really struggled to locate it.

1460
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 1: He threw and he would only throw it to lefties.

1461
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 4: He threw it about seven percent of the time and

1462
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 4: landed at first strike barely barely over half the time.

1463
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 4: So I think it's honestly going to be more of

1464
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 4: an asset for him against lefties once he you know, really,

1465
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 4: I honestly think if you normalize it over five to

1466
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 4: six seasons or whatever it may be, he's going to

1467
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 4: skew still where he's going to dominate righty's more than leftiest.

1468
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 4: But I think it just gives him another look in general,

1469
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: so you can't play that guessing game and try to

1470
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: catch up to that fastball. And if it helps him

1471
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 4: keep the ball in the yard a little bit more,

1472
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty much the only thing he's missing

1473
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: at this point is just being able to keep the

1474
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: ball in the yard a bit more. And I think

1475
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 4: not being able to ambush heaters is pretty much what

1476
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 4: we'll do that for him.

1477
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else, boys, we'll move on, Move on. Okay.

1478
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: Question number seven, Which upcoming free agent makes themselves the

1479
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: most money this season and why? At Caleb Palm on Twitter.

1480
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: So I have a big list, right, I went through

1481
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: pretty much every position and name some guys that I

1482
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: think are worthy of talking about, and we can dwindle

1483
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: down the list or I could just hand it over

1484
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: to you guys, and you guys give your answer. Do

1485
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: you want me to go through the list?

1486
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 4: I mean up to you top names?

1487
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, go top names, because I've got some that are

1488
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: a little bit deeper too.

1489
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: So I think this is a big year for Tyler

1490
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: O'Neill when he signed with the Red Sox, because go.

1491
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: Ahead, no is Tyler O'Neal is not one of the

1492
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: top names. Are you going to go through the list

1493
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: of top names or are you going to go just

1494
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: guys that you I.

1495
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: Just think which upcoming for agent can make themselves the

1496
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: most money this season. I was thinking about a guy

1497
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 1: like Tyler O'Neal, because if Tyler O'Neill has another bad season,

1498
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: we're looking at a guy who's probably gonna work off

1499
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: one year deals for a very long time. If he

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: has that MVP type level season, which is in the

1501
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: tank when you look at just the straight talent, Now,

1502
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: can he do it? I don't know, but he's the

1503
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: guy of everything sets up for him this year and

1504
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: he does have that great year, I think he can

1505
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: sign a big multi year deal. If it doesn't, I

1506
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: think he's going to be more of a one year.

1507
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: The big free agents, right, Shane Bieber, Our Walker Bueller,

1508
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo, Husi and Kim As a mutual option. Of course,

1509
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: there's one Soto, there's Max Freed, right. But I identified

1510
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: Tyler O'Neill as this being like a big season for him.

1511
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so O'Neill was one of mine. There were a

1512
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 3: couple other guys that jumped out to me. The labor Torres,

1513
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: I think can have a huge year, and he's young man.

1514
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: He's going to hit the open market at twenty seven

1515
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: years old. I want to say twenty eight, yeah, Willi

1516
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 3: Adamis had a bad year last year. If Adamis gets

1517
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: on the right track again and puts together a season

1518
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: like he did in twenty twenty two, I want to

1519
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: say that guy can get himself a bag. And we

1520
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 3: know the people are willing to pay shortstops. Frankie Montas

1521
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: has a great opportunity here. If this guy's healthy and

1522
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 3: he throws one hundred and twenty innings, the stuff is

1523
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: the stuff, and if the stuff looks like it did

1524
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: is last year in Oakland before the trade in New York,

1525
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm giving this guy a three year deal and I'm

1526
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 3: paying a lot of money for that, and.

1527
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: The reports out of Reds Camp is that he's good

1528
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: throwing really well right now.

1529
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, sneaky one for you here. I know this guy

1530
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 3: hasn't been great the last two years, but Peter, you're

1531
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 3: gonna watch him very very closely this year. If Jonathan

1532
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: Lewaizga looks like an elite setup guy, I'm willing to

1533
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 3: pay one hundred at a bowling.

1534
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: Ball staying in that division two. Brandon Lowe Brandon Law.

1535
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: That's another big one because if he's back in the

1536
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: thirty five to forty home run department, which he has

1537
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: shown in the past, it's like, well, how much is

1538
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: he worth when he hits the open market at thirty

1539
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: right arm, who else is on your list?

1540
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 4: That's definitely a guy because you know the power from

1541
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 4: the left side at second base is so valuable if

1542
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 4: he can stay on the field and do that. Tay

1543
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 4: Oscar obviously another answer where it's just because of what

1544
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 4: he's capable of. And now you put him in LA

1545
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 4: in a situation where you know they seem to maximize guys,

1546
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 4: and uh, it's a good situation for him in terms

1547
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 4: of that line up, Like we know what he can

1548
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 4: do in terms of the bat of all that is crazy.

1549
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 4: It's just consistently, you know, the approach, driving the ball

1550
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: in the air, doing all those things, like if it

1551
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 4: all clicks, he could hit thirty five, you know, and

1552
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 4: and and and put up ridiculous stat line. So that's

1553
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 4: a guy I'm definitely looking at. And then you know,

1554
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 4: Michael Confordo, because right now Michael Confordo is is just

1555
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 4: not going to get anything on the open market after

1556
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 4: this year. It's going to be one year, small small

1557
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 4: amounts even at this point. So like, if Confordo plays

1558
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 4: the way that you know, we know he's capable of

1559
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 4: and has played in the past, I think that's a

1560
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 4: guy that can make himself some money. He'd still be

1561
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 4: you know, like thirty two hitting free agency, and we

1562
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 4: know what is in that bat. I'm not super optimistic

1563
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: about it, but you know, he's a guy that could

1564
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 4: definitely make himself a good chunk of change if he

1565
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 4: performs you know, the way he is capable of and

1566
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 4: that we've seen in the past.

1567
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: Another deep cut, Mike Oka, it's going to hit the

1568
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: open market next year at twenty seven. Now, I was

1569
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: just thinking to myself, like Mike Soroka throws one hundred

1570
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: and fifty innings at a mid three ZRA and he

1571
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: gets on the market of twenty seven. I know, I know. No,

1572
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: That's why I was thinking, like, that's why I said

1573
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: deep cut. I don't think it's going to happen. But

1574
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: I've seen crazier, right. We can't forget this guy was

1575
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: a really top pitching prospect and burst onto the scene

1576
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: then was dealing with tons of injuries. The Villo left him,

1577
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: the command left him. Yeah, but if he can look

1578
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of what he did that incredible season

1579
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: I think it was back in twenty nineteen, could he

1580
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: earn himself a two or three year deal for sure?

1581
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 4: I think if he's in the low fource and healthy,

1582
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah. And one more is Tanner Scott, because yes,

1583
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 4: he did it last year. But if Scott can prove

1584
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: that that wasn't a fluke, right, that he is that dude.

1585
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: And if he's even you talking about like seventy's seventy

1586
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 4: five eighty percent of what he was last year, that

1587
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: guy's getting paid like one of the better closers in

1588
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, I mean he was, he was nails

1589
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 4: last season. So that's a guy that I think just

1590
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 4: anything close to what he did last year. He's getting

1591
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: a handful of years, and he's getting a lot of money.

1592
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Question Number eight or top prospect talk.

1593
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: The question is for top prospects who are likely to

1594
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: get called up this year Schemes, Langford, et cetera. Is

1595
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: it more important for a pitcher to get a few

1596
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: starts under his belt in the minor leagues or for

1597
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 1: a hitter to get reps against minor league pitching before

1598
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: getting the call? Basically, who benefits the most from minor

1599
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: league reps before going to the majors hitters or pitchers?

1600
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: Asked by at Cody Boga Voga on Instagram. Arm Jack

1601
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: wants to tackle it first.

1602
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 4: I think it's a great question. The interesting thing is,

1603
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's it's a little bit nuanced,

1604
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: but I would say for the most part, it's it's hitters, man,

1605
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 4: Like it is so hard to freaking hit in this game,

1606
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 4: and like you can work on some things in bullpens.

1607
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 4: I think you could do a lot of things pitching

1608
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: wise and get yourself pretty pretty close to ready to go.

1609
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 4: They do those sim games and things like that that

1610
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 4: get guys ready when they're coming back off of injury

1611
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 4: and things like that, Like a lot of top guys

1612
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 4: don't end up even going and throwing that many rehab innings.

1613
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 4: And I know rehabs different than prospect development, but I

1614
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 4: think for hitters it's way more important to get those reps,

1615
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 4: get those at bats. I mean, I'm not even making

1616
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 4: any judgment on hitters. I think this is the best

1617
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: way to summarize it. I can make some pretty definitive judgments,

1618
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 4: you know, I wouldn't say definitive, but I could feel

1619
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 4: much more confident about my assessment on a pitcher in

1620
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: one to two starts than I could in a hitter

1621
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: and ten to fifteen twenty play appearances. And it's because

1622
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 4: it takes so much more for a hitter to get

1623
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 4: those reps, to get those opportunities, and whether it's to

1624
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 4: prove themselves as a hitter or to just develop. So

1625
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 4: I think those things kind of align, and I think

1626
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 4: for a hitter it's way more important. That's why I

1627
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 4: think Jackson Holiday should start the year in triple A.

1628
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, you have pitchers that

1629
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 4: you know, there's so many injuries. Now if a guy's

1630
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 4: pretty close to ready. I'd rather finish that the development

1631
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 4: at the big league level, because not one hundred percent

1632
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 4: ready could still be you know, a solid era in

1633
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 4: competitive starts on the mound. Not one hundred percent ready

1634
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 4: at the plate could be I'm getting blown up and

1635
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: hitting two hundred and striking out a lot. So it's

1636
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: kind of two different. It's more zero sum for hitters

1637
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: versus pitchers, like you can compete and still not be

1638
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 4: one hundred percent big league ready.

1639
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: The way that I look at it is like, we

1640
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 3: have the data now to compare pitches from low A

1641
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 3: to the big leagues, so we can look at a

1642
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: pitcher pitch by pitch and say, well, this fact, this

1643
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 3: fastball and a vacuum is equivalent to this successful major

1644
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 3: league fastball. This slider in a vacuum is equivalent to

1645
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 3: this successful major league slider. So you see certain data

1646
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 3: points and pitchers you think that they can get outs

1647
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: at the major league level if the command is right now.

1648
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: I do think that there is a bit of acclamation

1649
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 3: as you continue to climb the ladder against quality of hitter,

1650
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 3: where it's like, hey, you may get thrown here, you

1651
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 3: may get you know, a little. I don't know, concerned

1652
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: about like the ability of the opposing hitter here, Like

1653
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: in Double A and Triple A, the hitters are just better.

1654
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: But if you've got a Spencer Strider esque fastball, that

1655
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 3: thing is going to make some big league hitters look silly.

1656
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: If you are hammering low A fastballs, Guess what. Overwhelming

1657
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 3: majority of those guys don't have Spencer Strider fastballs. So

1658
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: I want to see the stuff and the chess match

1659
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: get harder for hitters level by level.

1660
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 4: Yle Harrison Marco Luciano look at their stats from last year.

1661
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 4: I think both were about in the same spot about

1662
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: of being ready for the big leagues, and one was

1663
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 4: a lot more comfortable with the big league level than

1664
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 4: the other.

1665
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just going back to some of our converse

1666
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: conversations about college baseball, right, we've on most answer this

1667
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: question without answering it in the sense of Jack You've

1668
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: said Paul Skens could get outs right now, right with

1669
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: how good Dylan Cruz was in college or White Langford,

1670
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: you weren't saying, oh, yeah, they could twenty five home

1671
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: runs this season. No, apparently could Langford. Maybe curtis proving

1672
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: different freak, But I think that, right. We think Chase

1673
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: Burns when he's one oh one with the slider in

1674
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: the curveball, he could probably get out right now. Now there's,

1675
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: of course, there's an acclamation process. He has to learn

1676
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: more and just because you have great stuff, but that

1677
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: translates better to major League Baseball than however good of

1678
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: a hitter. Right. We've even seen pitchers make their debuts

1679
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: much earlier than hitters, notably right. So that's kind of

1680
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: the answer to that. I think you guys hit hit

1681
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: the nail on the head. Question number nine, do the

1682
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: Rays trade establish big league pieces like Harold Ramirez or

1683
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Lau at the trade deadline to clear room for

1684
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 1: guys like Curtis Mead Junior, Cameronaro or eventually Carson Williams.

1685
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: Or should they trade pieces now to make room on

1686
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: the opening day roster? Asked by Todd Bernius on Instagram. Jack,

1687
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: you're smiling, great question, Todd.

1688
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, like, I have no idea what they're

1689
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: doing right now, trading for Cabero, signing Amed Rosario. You've

1690
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: got Piretes at third, you got Yandi at first, you

1691
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: got Lao at second, but then you've got Kamonaro's big

1692
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: league ready? You got me who's big league ready? You

1693
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 3: got a slaves basave looks like a big league utility piece.

1694
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 3: There are so many pieces here. I have no idea

1695
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: what they're thinking right.

1696
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: Now trading for Dylanc's potentially that's not really in thebo

1697
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 1: but I mean, what do you do? This is basically

1698
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: the Orioles, right, a surplus of guys with not enough positions.

1699
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: And you could say, well, depth is important, right, We're

1700
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: looking at Matt McLean right now, no excuse me, who

1701
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: has a set back due to an oblique thing? Right,

1702
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: and Red's Twitter understandably is saying, well, we now have

1703
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: tons of infielders, right, It's good to have depth. But

1704
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 1: at the same time, Zach Lttel is the number three

1705
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: starter right now on like, we need more pitching in here.

1706
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 1: And you could say, well, Ryan Pepiot is better than Zachlytel.

1707
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. But the thing is the

1708
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Rays are still throwing out guys who should probably not

1709
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,520
Speaker 1: be the three or the four in a prohibitive playoff

1710
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: favorite right in the Rays.

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01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're in an interesting spot because you know, we

1712
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 4: we thought that they'd move Peretti's that seemed to be

1713
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 4: the talk. Doesn't look like that's gonna happen. Low. I

1714
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 4: feel like would have been moved by now he hasn't been,

1715
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: so like I feel like that's a guy that maybe,

1716
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 4: if something's there, you could do it. But how many

1717
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 4: teams are gonna swap pitching for one year of you know,

1718
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 4: an injured second baseman. Does allow make them more willing

1719
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: to move somebody else, maybe, but it's not the Rays

1720
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 4: m O. Because if you move somebody else with more

1721
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 4: control and then allows a free agent who you're probably

1722
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 4: not gonna pay now, you're left with even less. So

1723
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 4: they're in an interesting spot. And I just look at

1724
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 4: the the prospects, and I know you never want to

1725
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 4: plan around the performance of prospects, but we're talking about

1726
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 4: arguably the best offensive prospects in baseball, and Junior camon Aro,

1727
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 4: who can play third, who can plug in a short

1728
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 4: one needed, and probably you know, comes into that DH spot.

1729
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 4: I think you know brainer have to move Harold Ramirez

1730
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 4: at this point because not only do you have cammon Arrow,

1731
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 4: you also have Curtis Mead, who could play first base,

1732
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 4: who could also take that DH spot. I know Harold

1733
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 4: plays a little outfield, but basically never does. I think

1734
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,839
Speaker 4: Harold's the guy you move and probably get to you

1735
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 4: a sneaky return. And for them, it's like it doesn't

1736
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 4: have to be a to B where it's like I'm

1737
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: trading Harold for pitching. They could trade Harold, get prospect

1738
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: capital back and then be more comfortable about comfortable about

1739
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 4: trading other prospect capital to go get another arm. I

1740
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 4: will say they have to do something, especially after signing Rosario,

1741
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 4: and to me, it seems like signing Rosario is them

1742
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 4: tipping their hand of like saying, hey, we're gonna move

1743
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 4: one of these defensively limited guys of Jonathan Ronda, Harold

1744
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 4: Ramirez because we signed I know Verra, Sorry it is

1745
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 4: not the best defender, but we signed a guy that

1746
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: is a little bit more defensively talented I think than Aranda.

1747
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 4: Harold Ramirez and some of the other pieces they have.

1748
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 4: Curtis Mead and Junior Kamonaro cannot be in the minor

1749
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 4: leagues come May. I think it would be ridiculous for

1750
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: them to still be in the minor leagues there, so

1751
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 4: they got to clear some space. And to me, it

1752
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 4: really only makes sense if it's Harold Ramirez, Jonathan Ronda,

1753
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 4: and then maybe it has to be the perfect situation

1754
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 4: for Brandon Law. But you know they've held onto him

1755
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 4: this long. Why trade him?

1756
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Now?

1757
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: Let me give you guys a hypothetical. And my fear

1758
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: is that this hypothetical will just end up being the truth.

1759
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Let's say they move none of these guys. Is Junior

1760
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: Caminaro and Curtis Mead in the minor leagues, like, is

1761
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: that what's going to happen? Unfortunately, as much we don't

1762
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: want it to happen, like we're dealing with that here,

1763
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: they probably won't end up trading these guys, like who

1764
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: wants herod Ramirez on February twenty first right now, maybe

1765
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: some teams do, yeah, but it's probably not gonna be

1766
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: the package of the Rays want. Then they won't end

1767
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: up moving him because they're the Rays and that's what

1768
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: they do.

1769
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: I saw a quote earlier today. I'll find the source.

1770
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: Junior camin Aro went right from Montgomery to the big leagues.

1771
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 3: He didn't stop and Durham let's see pipeline. It was

1772
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 3: an MLB dot com article. Junior Camentaro isn't a lot

1773
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,759
Speaker 3: for an opening day roster spot. He's confident about one thing. Quote,

1774
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 3: if I go to Triple A, I'm not gonna spend

1775
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 3: a lot of time there.

1776
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 4: You might.

1777
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 3: I hope you don't. I hope you don't spend a

1778
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 3: day in Triple A. I hope you're on the opening

1779
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: day roster, Junior, But like, who's to say you know

1780
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 3: you've got an everyday job on April fifteenth. I'm just

1781
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 3: not sure that that's gonna happen, unfortunately, And like man,

1782
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 3: I wish they had one one of these dudes that

1783
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: like could play even a serviceable shortstop. I wish Junior

1784
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 3: could play like a passable shortstop and held it. If

1785
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 3: he goes to Triple he might play shortstop. He should,

1786
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 3: he should, And if he brings over the course of

1787
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 3: a month that camon Arow can play a passable shortstop,

1788
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 3: get his ass up there quick.

1789
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how Junior Cavandaro could play shortstop

1790
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: for the rest of his career, just because, like I

1791
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: saw him at the Futures game, and obviously you guys

1792
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: know way more about me, but it was my first

1793
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: time ever seeing him in person, and I looked over

1794
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: to you guys and I'm like, how was he even

1795
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: playing third? Because this dude is look like the biggest

1796
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: player on the field by far. And I was like,

1797
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 1: and then you guys are saying he's playing short, and

1798
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, how it's like Judge playing short.

1799
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 3: He's enormous, He's not just know, but he's just one

1800
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: no way, he was six five to fifty. Now you listen,

1801
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 3: bro I think two at tallest.

1802
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 4: He is a Peter Vision.

1803
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Peter Vision is incredibly accurate.

1804
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: I know, sorry, he is built like a truck. But

1805
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 3: I will say, like you've seen Carlos Korea, You've seen

1806
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 3: some of these bigger shortstops.

1807
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 1: You you guys hate him by your right gigs.

1808
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, but to Peter's point, like he'd be stretch, frail,

1809
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 4: finished or yeah, so okay, e place third. Nope, can't bridies.

1810
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 4: I think the most clear spot is you have a

1811
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 4: mead common arrow competition for a DH spot that you know,

1812
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 4: I think currently is a platoon between Ronda and Harold

1813
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 4: Ramirez and should honestly just be Harold Ramirez traded Ronda

1814
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 4: bench left. You know, this gives him one left handed

1815
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,879
Speaker 4: bat on the off the bench, and then your DH

1816
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 4: is is common Arrow. That just seems to make way

1817
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 4: more sense to me. And then you know, when you

1818
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 4: have a left handed pitcher and in llow bench, you

1819
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 4: move over Parretti's maybe you could play second base common

1820
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 4: Arrow plays third, like, I think you can get creative there.

1821
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 4: But they can't even do that until they trade Harold.

1822
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 4: So my prediction is they move Harold and then if

1823
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 4: common Arrow is really playing well or Meat is really

1824
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 4: playing well, then I think they clear another spot. But yeah,

1825
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 4: it's it's a weird situation. I was very surprised to

1826
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 4: see the Rosario signing, but you know, at one point

1827
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 4: five million with five hundred kN Escalators because they felt

1828
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 4: like they had nothing to lose and they needed an

1829
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: insurance policy at shortstop with walls out right now. I mean,

1830
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 4: Cabira is really the only guy that can play shortstop

1831
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 4: for them outside of Aasabe, who I guess they look at.

1832
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 4: Rosario is an upgrade over.

1833
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 1: It is also confusing because they have Jose Cabiiro and

1834
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: Junior Caminero. That's it's also just generally confusing for anybody listening.

1835
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: The Mariners of two guys named Mitch. You heard arm

1836
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 3: screw that up, like that's crazy.

1837
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 4: And that was a me thing.

1838
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: My prediction is they do absolutely nothing and we have

1839
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 1: a ninety minute podcast and what the race should do

1840
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: opening day. That's my prediction because that's normally what happens

1841
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. We like to say that they

1842
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: should do the right thing. However, will they is always

1843
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: the question, And the last question here on the mail

1844
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: bag is does Jack hate Just Baseball?

1845
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 4: Media?

1846
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Asked at Running Noah thirty four on Twitter, Jack, do

1847
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:21,879
Speaker 1: you hate us?

1848
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Audio answer no, video answer, hat change, no.

1849
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: Go get yourself some just baseball merch.

1850
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 4: In the episode, it.

1851
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 1: Looks I mean, look at mine.

1852
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 3: It's got a little fold right here that just kind

1853
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 3: of pisses me off.

1854
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 4: And then it looks like it got run over by

1855
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 4: a semi Look.

1856
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: At the difference between Jack and my hat.

1857
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 3: But I've got like this, this is a guy.

1858
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: This is a guy who cares about the company. That

1859
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: guy in that zoom does not p head.

1860
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah it is p head like that is my excuse.

1861
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 3: But also Peter wearing yours into like ditches, like are

1862
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 3: you digging ditches?

1863
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 4: While man first diving with the hat on?

1864
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on here?

1865
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: It does look disgusting. God, I've been wearing so much

1866
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I worked at the gym, know whatever, So go get

1867
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: yours in the episode description. Again, thank you everybody for

1868
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 1: asking questions for this mail bag. It was a blast. Again.

1869
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Make sure to be on the lookout on our instagram,

1870
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: on our Twitter. We'll do these every couple of weeks

1871
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: and then during the season every other Wednesday, either arm

1872
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: and I will do it, Jack and I, whatever combination,

1873
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: we'll be doing the mail bag. So be sure on

1874
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the lookout, follow our Instagram and Twitter. Those are in

1875
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the episode description. And if you enjoyed, leave a five

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01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: stear review, whether that be on Spotify, Apple podcasts. Been

1877
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: really enjoying the reviews I've been coming in. Please They're

1878
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: the best way to support this podcast and another great

1879
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: way hit that subscribe button on YouTube. Come on, people,

1880
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: and if you haven't listened yet, my five U to

1881
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: play is on our YouTube channel. Thought it came out

1882
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: really well. Shout out Peyton, Shout out our editor Will Cohen.

1883
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Shout out arm Lateon for giving me the idea in

1884
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: the first place, when he's just kind of his thought

1885
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: process of like, yeah, the Marlins are just not gonna

1886
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: be that good this year, and I'm like, I'm gonna

1887
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: look more into this, and then I saw what he

1888
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: was saying, to make sure to go watch that YouTube video.

1889
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 1: That's Jack, that's arm I'm Peter. We'll be back on Friday.

1890
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 1: And with that thing,