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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily right now Roger's success has been defined

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Speaker 1: on the field, where he's been a fantastic player and

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Speaker 1: he deserved the money. But in his mind he goes,

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Speaker 1: I've been so damn good and we've won, if anything,

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Speaker 1: because of me. So I I do understand why he

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Speaker 1: would say, maybe I don't have to change, but this

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Speaker 1: is a good opportunity for maybe to take a deep

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Speaker 1: breath and like, is there anything I can improve on?

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Speaker 1: Because when you stop improving, whether it's just with your

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Speaker 1: basic fundamentals, which he's terrible at, I mean, his fundamentals

438
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Speaker 1: are awful and it gets them in trouble, or even

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Speaker 1: as a teammate or a leader. Hell, you can read

440
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Speaker 1: any leadership book. You always have to be evolving. You're

441
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Speaker 1: gonna get yourself into rough situations. And the division's probably

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Speaker 1: never been better with the Bear is gonna be really good.

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Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are gonna be really good, and

444
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Speaker 1: even even the the Lions are gonna be improved. But

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Speaker 1: those two teams are just better, all clearly better on paper,

446
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Speaker 1: and they were better on the field than than the Packers. So,

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Speaker 1: as a fan of football and as a lover of Rogers,

448
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Speaker 1: the player not necessarily the person I do hope they're relevant,

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Speaker 1: and I hope they're good this year, but I just

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Speaker 1: don't feel that confident that he's gonna make a willing change. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get into them Cowboys. Uh. You know you probably

452
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Speaker 1: argue the biggest brand in the NFL, and anything they

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Speaker 1: do is a story. This weekend, I think it was

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Speaker 1: Friday night, might have been Saturday, I don't know. The

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Speaker 1: weekend when you're when you're letting loose and getting after

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Speaker 1: it all kind of runs together. But they signed to

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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence for a lot of money, and Peter King

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Speaker 1: actually had some really good nuggets this morning and is

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Speaker 1: I wanted to call it MMQB, but it's like football

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Speaker 1: Morning in America now because he went to NBC about

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Speaker 1: how Steven Jones got on the phone with DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and typically the way it works in the NFL. I've

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Speaker 1: never negotiated a deal, but I talked to enough of

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Speaker 1: these guys. They just deal with the agent, right, just

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Speaker 1: deal with the agent, and you don't often talk to

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Speaker 1: the player, and that's where some issues often happened. Well,

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus lawrence Is representation told him, you should call Stephen Jones.

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Speaker 1: It will help make the deal go through, and they

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Speaker 1: talked and I think clearly it worked out because he

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Speaker 1: got paid well. Dak Prescott and Stephen Jones made a

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Speaker 1: comment that they need to sign a team friendly deal. Basically,

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Speaker 1: if the deal is gonna get done, it's got to

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Speaker 1: be team friendly. And I was thinking, like, for how

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Speaker 1: many people and a lot of you guys, and the

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Speaker 1: expansion of this podcast has really grown over last year.

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Speaker 1: The reason you know who I am is because of

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Speaker 1: Colin Coward. I'm on Colin Cowards uh podcast feed. If

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Speaker 1: it wasn't for that, a lot of you guys maybe

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Speaker 1: eventually would have found me. I believe the cream usually rises,

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Speaker 1: but you might not be listening to me right now.

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Speaker 1: So without Colin Coward, this podcast, even if I would

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Speaker 1: have started it completely on my own, probably would have

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Speaker 1: had a lot less people listening. I know for a fact,

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Speaker 1: a lot less people would have listened, and more than

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Speaker 1: likely many of you that have your ear pods in

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Speaker 1: at work, whatever would not be listening to this. I

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Speaker 1: need Colin Kaepernick much more than I call him Colin Kaepernick,

488
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Speaker 1: Colin Coward, not Colin Kaepernick, much more than he needs me.

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Speaker 1: I'll promise you that I got news for you, Dak.

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Speaker 1: You need the Dallas Cowboys much more than they need you. Now.

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Speaker 1: They do need you too, And to me that that's

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Speaker 1: why the analogy of me and Colin doesn't work. Like

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Speaker 1: they do need Dak. He is a good quarterback and

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. But I know Colin has talked

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Speaker 1: about this on his show. He benefits a lot, and

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Speaker 1: let me repeat a lot from being the Dallas Cowboys quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that Dallas has that other

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Speaker 1: teams like when Khalil Mack left, he upgraded teams. The

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Speaker 1: Bears are a bigger deal in the NFL than the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: There is not a team that Dad could go to

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Speaker 1: unless he like took over for ton On Brady, there

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Speaker 1: would be a bigger deal than the Dallas Cowboys. So

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Speaker 1: whether he takes a little less money, and when we're

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Speaker 1: still talking, when I say less money, I'm talking like

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Speaker 1: a five year, hundred million dollar deals, so average about

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year and guarantee him like sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Now would Dad sign that? Probably not, But

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Speaker 1: if he was smart, he would because the amount of

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Speaker 1: money that he can make is the Dallas Cowboys quarterback

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Speaker 1: is basically infinite, especially if they win and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be good. The roster is loaded. You want to keep

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Speaker 1: this roster going, and his two key pieces on offense, Zeke,

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Speaker 1: the best player on the team, needs to get paid.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dad, he's much better than you as a player.

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Speaker 1: A Maori. I probably wouldn't pay a mari this year.

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Speaker 1: I'd make him play off the fifth year option. But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid too, especially if he has a

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Speaker 1: good year. But Dad has to realize the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: a lot of leverage in this now, how do they

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Speaker 1: find a quarterback. It's not like they have an unlimited

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Speaker 1: amount of leverage because they do need what he brings

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Speaker 1: to the table. But the problem with Dak and the

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Speaker 1: elephant on the roof him with with that, I think

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Speaker 1: when you talk to Dallas Cowboy fans, they go, how

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Speaker 1: good is he? He's never gonna be a top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. He probably on his best day

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Speaker 1: is like seven to twelve, and he has some days

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Speaker 1: where he's like fifteen to twenty. But because the team

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Speaker 1: is so talented, you can get by and like Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick when he was with the forty Niners, and I

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Speaker 1: would say Colin was more talented than Dak. Faster runner,

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Speaker 1: bigger arm, the whole deal. He benefited a lot because

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Speaker 1: he was also like that, a flawed player, very inaccurate.

534
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Speaker 1: Uh could not just throw basic routes, and Dack's downfall

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Speaker 1: is usually the deep ball. He's terrible. App Collin's team

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Speaker 1: was loaded, the defense was absolutely stacked. They were paying

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Speaker 1: a lot of people a lot of money. Patrick Willis,

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Speaker 1: Navorro Bowman, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree,

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Speaker 1: Justin Smith, Alden Smith, Ray McDonald. I mean, they had

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Speaker 1: a lot of good players. Some of them turned out

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Speaker 1: to be questionable characters, but they could ball. And that's

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Speaker 1: a big part of the Colin Kaepernick hype, which he

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Speaker 1: made happen. Just like Dak is a big part of

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys winning because when they're playing well, he usually

545
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Speaker 1: has playing decent even if it's with his legs, that's fine.

546
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Speaker 1: Their defense is so good and down the stretch. But

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Speaker 1: he wasn't good enough in that playoff game. He wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That's why to me, the Colin in the peak of

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick was a better player than Dak. Like you

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Speaker 1: could win playoff games with with Kaepernick as long as

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Speaker 1: your team was really good. Can you do that with Dak?

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Speaker 1: So far, he's one and two in the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: in two of the three playoff games. I guess his

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Speaker 1: rookie year when they lost the Packers, he was good

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Speaker 1: in that game. Uh, this year, he wasn't very good

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Speaker 1: in the game against the Rams, and he was fine

557
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: against the game in Seattle. But they need better. And

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Speaker 1: to me, that's why I'm not rushing, and I agree

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Speaker 1: with Steven like Dak, if you're willing to sign a

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Speaker 1: team friendly deal, will sign you right now. But let's

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Speaker 1: not act like you don't need us. We're not the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: This isn't the Houston Texans. This is in the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: This is Dallas freaking Cowboys. And you've been the quarterback

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Speaker 1: here since you were a rookie. And you weren't some

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Speaker 1: first rounder. You were a mid rounder, and you know

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Speaker 1: you were a high character guy. But you did have

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Speaker 1: d Y right before the combine that PROBA coast you

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Speaker 1: around and we took you. We didn't really believe in

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Speaker 1: you off the bat because you were like a third

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Speaker 1: enforcer and quarterback. It took Tony getting hurt, then it

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Speaker 1: took Kellen Moore getting hurt. It took some things happening,

572
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Speaker 1: but you took advantage of it. You took advantage of

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Speaker 1: the opportunity like any human has to do in life,

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Speaker 1: and you ran with it. And you've been damn good.

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Speaker 1: But you're still flawed and you have to admit that

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Speaker 1: end you can. The one thing about where I always

577
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Speaker 1: sided with players, you gotta get your money while you can. Well,

578
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Speaker 1: when you're the Cowboys quarterback, you can make so much money.

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Speaker 1: Would he be on the Campbell soup if he was

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals quarterback? Of course not. They would not

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Speaker 1: have chose him. He's a Dallas Cowboys quarterback and he's good,

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Speaker 1: and I actually think he's got room to improve. But

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Speaker 1: I would recommend I don't think it's crazy to sign

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Speaker 1: a team friendly deal because unlike some of these organizations

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Speaker 1: where you got they can get cheap. I know the Cowboys,

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00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: they're all in with their chips and they need you

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Speaker 1: to sign a team friendly deal, not so they can

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Speaker 1: pocket some money because they want signed all your sweet

589
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Speaker 1: teammates two deals as they just did with DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: They want to do. It was Zeke they probably want

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Speaker 1: to do with them Mary. They want to do with

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Speaker 1: all these guys. That's where Kaepernick got screwed. He signed

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Speaker 1: a team friendly deal and they started letting guys walk

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Speaker 1: like Mike you Potti, Michael Crabtree, Frank Gore. They's like walk.

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Speaker 1: God that Jerry ain't gonna do that, Jerry, every guy

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Speaker 1: that you want him to keep, and that you would

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Speaker 1: think like, I'd want Zeke on my team, so does Jerry.

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Speaker 1: So why Jerry draft him really high? They they're gonna

599
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Speaker 1: want to keep him. Mary. They just traded a first

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Speaker 1: round pick for him. DeMarcus Lawrence became a franchise level player.

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Speaker 1: They broke him off. So but Doc, when if you

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Speaker 1: want to if you're adamant that you're an eight five

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Speaker 1: million dollar guarantee guy, which you're not, and if you

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year, you'll probably get that your

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Speaker 1: your team is not gonna be as good and that

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Speaker 1: is going to reflect your ability. Because I saw it

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Speaker 1: firsthand with Colin Kaepernick those first couple of years when

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Speaker 1: they started letting guys go. He wasn't good enough to

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Speaker 1: carry him, and Doak is not good enough to carry him.

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Speaker 1: But if your team is really good, and it is

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Speaker 1: and it's complete, it's good. On offense. You can run

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Speaker 1: a ball now that you have Amori Gallups. Not terrible.

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Speaker 1: You got a little bit of a passing game. If

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Speaker 1: your team stays complete, you got a chance Dac to

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl as a Dallas Cowboy quarterback. Again,

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Speaker 1: not the Cardinals, not even the Seattle Seahawks, not the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota the Dallas freaking Cowboys. You will be a lifetime legend.

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Speaker 1: And every let's say you signed for sixty when you

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Speaker 1: could have signed for seventy million. I'll promise you you'll

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Speaker 1: easily make that much money times tenfold, and you'll never

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Speaker 1: look back, and you'll be a lifetime legend. So listen

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Speaker 1: to Steven Jones. He's not trying to screw you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's uh, let's get into the middleoff mailbag. Got a

624
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of good Middlecoff mail bag Instagram. You can always

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00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: get a hold of me at John Middlecoff is my

626
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Instagram handle and it's the easiest way to get on

627
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Speaker 1: the show. You just fire into my d M s

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00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: and I'll answer your question. Good insight on Charlie Ambersaw,

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Speaker 1: You're the only one so far which sounds like the

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Speaker 1: correct hake on him. Sounds like he has a party

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Speaker 1: boy in dated Britney spears not too long ago. Not

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Speaker 1: even a question, just reading a positive comment. Try to

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Speaker 1: keep positive on here. Hey, John, Do you think that

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00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon throws a shipload of money at Gronk and

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Speaker 1: he ends up at XFL, either as the face of

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Speaker 1: it or as a face of a franchise. That is

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Speaker 1: a hell of a question. I never thought about that.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I would say for Gronk is money

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Speaker 1: hasn't been an issue. He's been making a ton for

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Speaker 1: the last five or six years. Everyone close to him

641
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Speaker 1: is adamant that he saved it all. So he's not

642
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: in financial you know, he's not anywhere near financial hardships.

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Speaker 1: He's retiring because he has a bunch of money in

644
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Speaker 1: the bank. He doesn't need the physical wear and tear. Now.

645
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Speaker 1: Does he make some sense as like a face of

646
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: the league? Yes, but if he's not playing, that only

647
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: goes so far. But I definitely think inc it would

648
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: make some sense right for Vince to get Gronk involved

649
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: in the w W e and then kind of use

650
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: him with the XFL. I've like, that's genius. So yeah,

651
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Speaker 1: I absolutely love that idea. I just I have a

652
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: hard time seeing him playing in even if the XFL

653
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: is cool that first year, it's not going to be

654
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: great football. I mean, let's call it what it is.

655
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: I watched them a f it wasn't that great. Is

656
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Speaker 1: Gronk who's gonna be a Hall of Famer gonna come

657
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: back for a season or two on the field for

658
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Speaker 1: the XFL. Have a hard time seeing that now if

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Speaker 1: they gave him fifteen or twenty million dollars, even if

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Speaker 1: he's got money in the bank. Like, listen, we've all

661
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: been doing well at certain points in time in your

662
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Speaker 1: life where you're like, you know, I don't need the money,

663
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Speaker 1: and then someone offered you a number. You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: actually do it, Like we we all got a number.

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Speaker 1: So would he played one season the XFL for twenty

666
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Speaker 1: million dollars? I wouldn't put it past Vince. I would

667
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: say that I have a hard time seeing him do it,

668
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: But you never know. I I definitely think there's already

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Speaker 1: some connections with him and wrestling him and Vince. I

670
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Speaker 1: was thinking more with just the w W E. But

671
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you get GROUNK involved in football? So best

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Speaker 1: question I think we've ever had in the middle Coff

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00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: mail back love it So hey, John enjoyed your last podcast.

674
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: So in your mind, who's the bigger dirt bag for

675
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: enjoying for ignoring their family? Patrick Read or Aaron Rodgers?

676
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Pretty good question for me to have a dirt bag ranking.

677
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: I have to know the reason you don't talk to

678
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: your family, uh, Patrick Read felt was more his wife,

679
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Reid's defending Master's champion golfer Jordan's speet hates does

680
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: not talk to his parents, but he's got kind of

681
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: a sketchy passed. Rogers doesn't have a sketchy passed. He's

682
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: never been in trouble or anything. He just kind of

683
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: has a pass where people think it's kind of a dick.

684
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: So I would lean Patrick read I think there are

685
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: two different animals. But I've been saying to a lot

686
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: of people that have been texting me about the I

687
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thing like again, man, unless she had like

688
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: criminal activity against you or you know, left you when

689
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: you were a child. Not talking to your mother if

690
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: you're a guy and she's still alive. That one's hard

691
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: to justify. I I really don't see how it is

692
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: justifiable so that they're both to me, I got massive

693
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: red flags. Now from the little information I have a

694
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: little more on read, I go read bigger questionable individual.

695
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: I think Rogers and for people in the know, acted

696
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: like Olivia Munn played some role. But Rogers today when

697
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: he talked to the media, I mean, was adamant. One

698
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: thing he kept saying was claiming that he doesn't hold grudges,

699
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: or that he thought like that him still holding a

700
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: grudge over Alex Smith was like preposterous, preposterous. Well, wouldn't

701
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: it be kind of crazy holding the grudge with your

702
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: parents over that happened years ago? Like they're your parents, man,

703
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: and you're in your late thirties, meaning they're probably I

704
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: don't know, six or five seventy, Like they're not gonna

705
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: be around forever. You might want to get on that

706
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: and just call her and see how she's doing. Hey, John,

707
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: not a really big Barrys sports fans, seeing that I'm

708
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: from northern Ohio. But since I've been listening to you

709
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: and watching your live streams, I've gained an interest in

710
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: the Bay Area as a whole. What are the chances

711
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: that Gruden in mayok take Devin White over Josh Allen?

712
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: On Twitter, it seems like Josh Allen is a lock

713
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Speaker 1: to go to Oakland if Williams and Bosa are gone

714
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: at two and three, I definitely think it's on the table.

715
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Speaker 1: I personally would take probably Devin White. I'm gonna write

716
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: something this week on Josh Allen. I really only watched

717
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: Josh Allen hardcore in the Bowl Game. So a lot

718
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: of my thoughts on Josh Allen have been through friends

719
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL that they've been adamant about two things.

720
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Speaker 1: Whenever I go Alan or Bosa. People that I trust

721
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: the most, guys that I work with that I know

722
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: know what they're talking about and don't have a skin

723
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: in the game, they're not. And these players, because most

724
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: of my friends are in the playoffs, they they say

725
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: that they don't even think it's close. That boast is

726
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: a much more natural pass rusher Josh Allen. If you

727
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: talk to certain people that they will go you know,

728
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: he's really more of an overachiever. Now, he's a talented overachiever,

729
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: like he plays really hard. There's nothing wrong with playing hard,

730
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: Like Khalil Mack plays really hard. Von Miller plays hard,

731
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: but they have elape attributes. I gotta dive in and

732
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: watch Josh Allen six four. He's long, he's productive, but

733
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Speaker 1: how's it gonna translate? And also he is a from

734
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: what what I've talked to, more of a three four

735
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. I think Alden Smith. Now, Alden could play

736
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: for three and three four and you could argue nowadays

737
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: you're in, you know, passing situations so much, your hands

738
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: in the dirt or you can stay and it doesn't

739
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: necessarily matter. But you know the Raiders, are they an

740
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: ideal fit for him? I'm gonna have to look at

741
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: that later. I think Devin White's really good. The one

742
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: knock I've heard on Devin White from my people in

743
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: the league, and I watched a lot of Devin White

744
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: and he makes them just in readible flash plays. He's

745
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: a freak athlete and can fly. Is that like think

746
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: ro Quan last year? What made ro Quan so special?

747
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: He was a heat seeking missile because he was so instinctive,

748
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: so he was always in the right place. And I

749
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: got a front row seat in the prime of their careers,

750
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: Willis and Bowman what made them so dominant? And I

751
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: think keith Ley was like this too. It is like

752
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: this when he's on the field. Is their athletic ability

753
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: is elite and their instincts are elite, and then their

754
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: physicality is elite. So it's like they're always around the ball.

755
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: And my buddy was like, you know, Devin White, sometimes

756
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: he just he makes some plays even though he's taking

757
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: wrong angles or he's in the wrong spot because he's

758
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: a freak athlete. Now you can get away with that

759
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: in college, but every step you take it gets a

760
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: little harder. Now he is really young. Can you coach

761
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: him up for sure? Like I watched Devin Bush, who

762
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: is not going to go as high as Devin White.

763
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: I'd say Devin Bush is best attribute from that I've

764
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: seen is his instincts, elite instincts And to me, I

765
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: I that matters a linebacker. That that matters you know

766
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot. You have to admit that the Steelers Raiders

767
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: rivalry is renewed. Yeah, I don't think there's much of

768
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: a rivalry there. Uh. DeMarcus Lawrence has a new deal

769
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: since he won't play under the franchise tag. Could the

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Speaker 1: team technically use a franchise tag on someone else. No,

771
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: I think there's a date that you have to franchise

772
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: him by before the season ends or not the season

773
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: ends before uh the league year starts. So whenever free

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Speaker 1: agency starts, like the week before the franchise tag, there's

775
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: a deadline, do you have to franchise them? And then

776
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: once you franchise them, there's that deadline in the middle

777
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: of June or July they have to sign it by.

778
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't I don't think they can franchise.

779
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm no cap guru and I don't know all the rules,

780
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: but I'm like positive that once free agency starts, you

781
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: can't retroactively franchise. Now. You can yank the franchise tag

782
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: or yank the transition tag like happened to Josh Norman.

783
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: H Uh that had happened to Folds, or they just

784
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: never franchise him. But you can yankee at any time,

785
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: but you can't add it now. Luckily for them, they

786
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: would have been in a tough position had like Zeke

787
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus been a free agent, And if that had

788
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: been the case, I think they would have been more

789
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Speaker 1: active and got one of them done. That's the part

790
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: thing about the Cowboys, Like next year, what years is

791
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Speaker 1: for Zeke? Is this gonna be his fourth and it's

792
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a Mari's fifth. So yeah, there, I guess

793
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: next year, technically they would have a Mari and Dak

794
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: would be free agents, so you can only franchise one.

795
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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's fair to say and safe

796
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: to say that they are one because Dak there's gonna

797
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: be Dak's fourth year and he was a mid round pick,

798
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, so he's a four year contract. This

799
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Speaker 1: is a Mari's fifth year option, so you that that's

800
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: where you get a situation where if you want to

801
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: keep them both, you better get one signed this offseason.

802
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: So then worst case scenario, to me, I'd rather sign

803
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: a Mari because I think I can get a Mario

804
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: a little cheaper, probably sixteen seventeen a year. If Dak's

805
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: not signing, the team friendly d you like, I'm sorry, Dak,

806
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: You're playing out this year and then I'll franchise you

807
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: next year unless we win the super Bowl or something.

808
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not giving you a huge catch. You

809
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: just you don't deserve it. Everyone on this in this

810
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: planet beside Dac and his agent and maybe his family

811
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: know that. And I also, like I said earlier, I

812
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: think it can be a win win with Dac. I

813
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: really do. I think him making twenty to twenty two million,

814
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: it's not a bad deal at all. If you're U

815
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: c l A, why aren't you sending the house at

816
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: Chris Beard from Tech seems like a no brainer. Well,

817
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: now that I'm way deeper in the podcast, let me

818
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: flip on the National Championship Game. It was just reported

819
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: that Rick Barnes, former Texas coach, now at Tennessee, who

820
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: had them number one in the country Virginia. As I'm

821
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: recording this is up thirty seven twenty nine. I feel

822
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: like Virginia is gonna win. But Rick Barnes. When I

823
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: grew up having I grew up in Davis, and you

824
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: know what's about forty five minutes away from Berkeley, and

825
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: my dad we used to go to a lot of

826
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Speaker 1: coal football games. We were also big cow basketball fans.

827
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: I became a pretty big U c l A basketball

828
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: fan because I had a family friend that played on

829
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: some of those teams with Steve Lavin, and it used

830
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: to I mean the West Coast. We were actually weren't

831
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: a very good football conference. Like when I was growing up,

832
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: Stanford wasn't good, Cal wasn't good. U c l A

833
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: was okay, USC was down, Arizona was okay, like Oregon

834
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: was solid, Washington was okay, Oregon State was decent, like

835
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: the pat rob wasn't great in football. It was much

836
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: more of a basketball school because U c l A

837
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: was good, You said it was really good. Arizona was

838
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: really good, Stanford with Mike Montgomery was excellent, Oregon was solid. Uh, Washington,

839
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: Washington State had their moments, so that this conference was

840
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: a basketball conference. Ye, we'd laugh at the SEC. Now

841
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: the SEC U c l A, who was like the

842
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: equivalent for basketball on the Pack twelve, I wouldn't go.

843
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're basically our Kentucky can't even get Tennessee's

844
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: head coach. It's crazy, it really to me. It's a

845
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: reflection of the conference. And I say it all the time,

846
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: and it's part of its bias, part of its anger,

847
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: but part of it's just facts. There are four major

848
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: conferences right now in college sports, and it's and let's

849
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: call it what it is. When I say college sports,

850
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean basketball and football, and really the main thing

851
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: is football, but basketball is big two. The SEC is

852
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. The Big ten is right there.

853
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: The a c C is damn good because there are

854
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: a basketball conference, but they also their best football team

855
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: is Clemson, so they've won two or three national championships,

856
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: so they're pretty good shape. And the team Big twelve, well,

857
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. They got Oklahoma, they got I mean

858
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: ship text texts in the national championship, and then you

859
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: got Us, so you got the Big four and then

860
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: like there's a tier and then there's the Pack twelve

861
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: and they're like right behind the Pack twelve. And hell,

862
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: you can even argue might not even be that big

863
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: of a difference, like the Mountain West whatever, the Health

864
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: Conference they call that one, that Houston it in UCFSN,

865
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: Like you could argue the last couple of years those

866
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: conferences have been every bit of the equal in basketball

867
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: and football as the Pac twelve. And it's all about money.

868
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Like the highest paid coach out West is Chris Peterson.

869
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: I think he makes like four or four and a

870
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: half million dollars. That's like what, I don't know the coach,

871
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: You know what, what do you think Kirby Smart and

872
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen. I'm not even talking saving Mark Stoops or

873
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: Mike Stoops or whatever the Stoops brother is in Kentucky. Remember,

874
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: I had a buddy that was coaching a position in

875
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: the SEC. A position was making like four fifty girl.

876
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: That's like what we pay offensive coordinators out here. That

877
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: financially we've fallen completely behind. Because you can coach basketball

878
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: definitely football in like the Big twelve or the SEC

879
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: or the a CEC. I mean Dappli makes like eight

880
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: million dollars. Dappl's coordinator makes two. That's NFL money. Used

881
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: to you'd always go to the NFL because you make

882
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: way more money. Well, you don't need to leave Ohio

883
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: State for the NFL. I've stated for the coordinator pays

884
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: you one and a half million dollars. To the coordinator

885
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: claims you the coordinator, Alabama coordinator, Florida coordinator at Oklahoma,

886
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: you make huge cash. It was always like you gotta

887
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: go to the NFL. That's the private sector, that's where

888
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: the big money is. Now. These colleges pay so much

889
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: unless you're in the Pact twelve than you always leave

890
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: because the money is not there and again, these are

891
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: first world problems. These guys all make a lot of cash,

892
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: even a lower I mean, no one's crying for an

893
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the Pact twelve making seven fifty grand.

894
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: But when you're just factoring in the industry, they're not competitive.

895
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: And now it's it's football failures have now bled into basketball.

896
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: U c l A can't land a coach to save

897
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: their life. It's it's kind of sad. It kind of

898
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: pissing me off, to be honest with you. Uh, I'm

899
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: a huge Seahawk fan, and I was wondering how they

900
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: might go about building a team around what's Russell Wilson

901
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: if they signed them to a new mega deal, And

902
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: how much you think the new deal would be worth.

903
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: I think I might have talked about this on the

904
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: last podcast. To me, a fair deal would be no

905
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: math major. Let me pull out my calculator. Five years

906
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: times thirty five million dollars a year. That's a hundred

907
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and seventy five million dollars. So he's thirty one years old.

908
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I'll give you a five year deal at a hundred

909
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: seventy five million per and hundred twenty to a hundred

910
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: thirty million i'd started a hundred twenty I'd give a

911
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: hundred twenty five million. How you build a team? The

912
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: salary cap is no longer seventy million, you know, it's

913
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: we're talking a hund two hundred million. It's this year.

914
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: It's so by next year it'll be like it's got

915
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: up ten million a year for the last five or

916
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: six years, so it's only gonna go up. And they

917
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: have a ton of money now. Their owner just died.

918
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: But I'd have no problem given him five years thirty

919
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: five million dollars per and guaranteeing a hundred twenty hundred

920
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: thirty million. Here's my problem. And people it feels like

921
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: there's some smoke and people like, oh, they're gonna trade him,

922
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: and I don't. Collins talked trade him for what, like,

923
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: how do you replace him? He's basically the Michael Jordan

924
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: of their franchise, the best player they've ever had. Now

925
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: you could are your Earl Toms. They've had some really

926
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: good players, even with the early Russell Wilson team, but

927
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: the most important he's a quarterback. So you're gonna trade

928
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: him for even if he traded him. Let's say again

929
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: some crazy hypothetical the Raiders would offer you six first

930
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: round picks, Well, how are you gonna find Russell Wilson

931
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: with one of the first round picks? I give you

932
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: six first rounders, but how do I fill the Russell

933
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Wilson void? I got news for you. You You don't. That's

934
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: why you don't trade him, Why you don't even entertain trading.

935
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: It's just why you pay him. You make them your

936
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: quarterback for the rest of Pete Carroll and John Schneider's career.

937
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Just wondering why the NFL doesn't have a sponsorship patch

938
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: yet on their jerseys, like the NBA studies a showing

939
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: that sponsorship patch alone is brought in over a hundred

940
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: fifty million to the league. Seems like the NFL owners

941
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: should talk about this at the league wide meeting, but

942
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not hearing any information about it. What are your thoughts? Well,

943
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: I know the Niners, the Cowboys, and the Eagles off

944
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: top of my head, and I'm sure countless. I think

945
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: the Vikings a lot of teams on their practice jersey,

946
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: so like during training camp, during O t A s

947
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: all their players or interviewed have them. I don't know

948
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: if there's like league by laws anyone that's involved in

949
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: some sort of club, and that's basically what the NFL is,

950
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: just a you know, fifteen billion dollar a year club.

951
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: There are by laws, and maybe they had stuff written

952
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: in for the jerseys. I'm not exactly sure. I'm the

953
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: wrong guy to ask on that, but I do know

954
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: for a fact that many teams and probably you guys

955
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: listening because I have I get so many d ms

956
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: from all you guys, you probably every single team is

957
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: representative that listen to this podcast. You know you go, oh, yeah,

958
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: the Bengals have one. Oh, the Saints have one. Most

959
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: teams on their practice jerseys now have one. Now why

960
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: don't they have them on the game ward jerseys? I

961
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: would guess, and this is just an educated guess, it's

962
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: in like the NFL by laws that you can't mess

963
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: with the jersey. Maybe it's easier in the NBA to

964
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: put them on the side. Like in baseball they don't

965
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: have either, I mean a golf and like NASCAR, those

966
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: guys are walking just sponsors. I'd be all for it.

967
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you know, really what a basketball

968
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: steal it from? Right? The EPL and the soccer clubs

969
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of ship all over their jerseys,

970
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: and you know, fans don't care if the team is good.

971
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: So I were headed that way. Whether that's next year,

972
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: whether that's in five years, we're gonna be there for sure.

973
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: And you know, if it's a hundred fifty million for

974
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: the NBA, think of what the NFL would think of

975
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: what a major company, Netflix or whoever, Gatorade or I

976
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: make it s Gatorade's already represented. But just any of

977
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: these companies would pay to be on the Cowboys jersey,

978
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: to pay to be on the Patriot jersey, to pay

979
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: to beyond the Eagles jersey. Think how much money they

980
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: could make off that. So they're definitely talking about that,

981
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: But they're also at the point, like you know, to me,

982
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not necessarily that adding that is not like

983
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered. That's just good business.

984
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: But you gotta be a little careful of that because

985
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: they already have this kind of public perception that they're

986
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: all about the money, and they are as they should be.

987
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: It's it's their business model is to make money. But

988
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: I would imagine we're headed towards you know, Google being

989
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals, Jersey or whoever. But you can

990
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: always hit me up at John Middlecoff Middlecoff mail Bag.

991
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: We'll answer your questions. Thanks for all. They're pretty good

992
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: this week. Uh, watch the end of this game and

993
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: I will talk to you Friday. We're not that far

994
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: away from the draft, right around the corner. God speed,

995
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: enjoy the week, talk to y'all soon. See it week