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Speaker 1: all right? You know I don't get to watch other
Speaker 1: shows except yours, Nick because a lot of times I'm
Speaker 1: on the air. I pulled into the parking lot when
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick goes on, so I never get to hear Dan,
Speaker 1: who does a great job. I don't get a watch
Speaker 1: like Steven A. Rutter shows because either I'm prepping for
Speaker 1: my show, doing for my show, or driving home. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: I when I worked at the other place, I was
Speaker 1: there for the New England Dynasty, a big chunk of
Speaker 1: it ne eleven years and it was great. I was I.
Speaker 1: You know, my friends were all either New York Giant
Speaker 1: fans or Patriot fans, and I never thought the Patriots
Speaker 1: were the most talented team, although I did think the
Speaker 1: Randy Moss years were damn good. Yeah, but I thought
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of this stuff about officiating, and
Speaker 1: I was always like, ugh shit. I did think the
Speaker 1: Bills got a first down, but there were thirteen minutes left,
Speaker 1: and I don't care. I'm kind of a believer. And
Speaker 1: I've said this, I think to you and others when
Speaker 1: people used to complain about Jordan getting all the calls
Speaker 1: of the Warriors, I would always say this, how many
Speaker 1: turnovers did you have and how many phrase throws did
Speaker 1: you miss? If the answer combined is twenty. I don't
Speaker 1: care about that, go either way. Called in the fourth quarter, right, like,
Speaker 1: you had eleven turnovers and miss nine free throws. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to listen to you. I thought Buffalo was
Speaker 1: incredibly lucky. They fumbled four times and recovered all of them.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that in a playoff game in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: No, Colin. They there were five fumbles in the game
Speaker 2: because Mahomes fumbled and Buffalo recovered all five. Now, as
Speaker 2: far as back as the record books go, first playoff
Speaker 2: team ever to do that and lose, Like, it's very
Speaker 2: hard to go five for five fumble recoveries and not
Speaker 2: win the game. They got very fortunate on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my take on the entire game was very much
Speaker 1: like Matt Hasselback. Matt Hasselback and I and Drew Breese
Speaker 1: and I agreed that Sean McDermot acknowledged after the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the fourth and one stuff, you know, we just
Speaker 1: kind of let Josh, you know, and we just kind
Speaker 1: of figure, Josh, we're gonna kind of let him do it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like Andy Reid has never once said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let Mahomes kind of do it. And
Speaker 1: I've been on this now since you've known me at
Speaker 1: FS one for eight years. I think offensive coaches are
Speaker 1: better with star quarterbacks than defensive coaches. And I think
Speaker 1: one of the things I've said about Brady is where
Speaker 1: Brady really deserves credit. He won with Arians, he won
Speaker 1: with Belichick, Charlie Weiss, he won with like six different
Speaker 1: people because remember Bill didn't really run the offense. It
Speaker 1: was whoever the coordinator was. Is that I do think,
Speaker 1: and this is not a shot at Mahomes all of
Speaker 1: us in life. Some kids grow up with really doting,
Speaker 1: rich parents and supportive parents, and some kids grow up
Speaker 1: in chaos. Is Mahomes would be successful regardless. But do
Speaker 1: you think it's crazy to consider that if Mahomes and
Speaker 1: Alan's switch coaches, that Alan would have more Super Bowls
Speaker 1: today than Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, I do think that's crazy. I don't think
Speaker 2: you'd have more super Bowls than Mahomes. And I think
Speaker 2: that Listen. I think Patrick is going to go down
Speaker 2: as a Mount Rushmore athlete, not football player athlete, and
Speaker 2: I think that he is has a special innate ability
Speaker 2: that right now no other quarterback in like the people
Speaker 2: have been beaten over the head with the Mahomes stats,
Speaker 2: but some of them are just like impossible to believe.
Speaker 2: So he already now has the more playoff victories. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when his defense allows twenty nine points than any quarterback
Speaker 2: in NFL history, So he has four. He has won
Speaker 2: four playoff games. Was even's allowed twenty nine points. That's
Speaker 2: Tom did it. I think Peyton did it, I think
Speaker 2: three times, and Tom did it once drive vice versa.
Speaker 2: But no one's done that that. Patrick has played twenty
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna get to the Josh Allen piece
Speaker 2: of this. Patrick has played twenty playoff games. Okay, eleven
Speaker 2: of them were what I would call easy wins. They
Speaker 2: were leading in the fourth quarter, led the whole way.
Speaker 2: The nine games Colin that he was not that he
Speaker 2: trailed in the fourth quarter, six of them he won.
Speaker 2: One of them he forced overtime against New England, never
Speaker 2: touched the ball, another one he forced overtime against Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: did not come through and lost. And the other one
Speaker 2: they were down thirty one to nine against the Bucks
Speaker 2: entering the fourth So again and put a little finer
Speaker 2: point on that. In his playoff career, in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: trailing by one score. He has had fourteen possessions. They
Speaker 2: have tied or taken the lead thirteen times and so
Speaker 2: and the one time he didn't, he then got the
Speaker 2: ball back and did it.
Speaker 1: So do you believe, though, that Andy Reid is a
Speaker 1: is a is a prominent.
Speaker 2: That one hundred percent absolutely, But I also believe the
Speaker 2: knock on Andy before Patrick came into his life, was
Speaker 2: brilliant play designer. But in these exact moments I'm describing,
Speaker 2: gets tight and messes up the clock or situationally isn't
Speaker 2: buttoned up. That's how you lose a twenty eight point
Speaker 2: lead to the Colts with Alex Smith, That's how you
Speaker 2: lose an eight and in the playoff an eighteen point
Speaker 2: lead to Marcus Mariota. You know, Andy was the chiefs
Speaker 2: coach when those things happened. So I think it's the
Speaker 2: perfect marriage. I think Andy is the perfect preparer of
Speaker 2: offense and plays and all of it, and Patrick is
Speaker 2: the steadiest hand in the world. And so to me,
Speaker 2: it's like the most brilliant medical school professor pairing up
Speaker 2: with the most naturally gifted surgeon ever, Like he is
Speaker 2: going to give you all of the tools and then
Speaker 2: you're gonna, you know, be the one with the steady
Speaker 2: hand going to do it. So that part, and I
Speaker 2: think Josh is excellent. I also think that Josh had
Speaker 2: the ball of three and a half minutes left down
Speaker 2: three and got seventeen yards and zero points. And that's
Speaker 2: a year after getting the ball back with six minutes
Speaker 2: left down three and got forty yards and zero points. Like,
Speaker 2: that's not Patrick, that's not Andy's. That's in those moments
Speaker 2: the fourth and five play, Josh was excellent. First down,
Speaker 2: second down, he was not, which set up the third
Speaker 2: and tam, which set up the fourth and five. Here
Speaker 2: is the thing I want to say about the sneaks, Colin,
Speaker 2: and this is where I'm surprised. More teams don't, more
Speaker 2: contending teams don't take a page out of the Chiefs notebook.
Speaker 2: Why at some point during the year didn't the Bills
Speaker 2: say internally, okay, guys, I think we pretty much well
Speaker 2: know how to run this snake. Can we work on
Speaker 2: a couple other short yardage things?
Speaker 1: So thank you. A.
Speaker 2: Teams have to prepare for other things, and b even
Speaker 2: though we've been basically undefeated on it, if somebody has
Speaker 2: a wrinkle, that can stop it, we have a pivot point. Instead,
Speaker 2: they just ran the same thing all year because it
Speaker 2: was so successful, and that's that should be the lesson
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs. The Chiefs early in the year, people like, oh,
Speaker 2: Kelsey's washed, and it's like, Okay, he's obviously slowing down.
Speaker 2: But is it is it that he's washed or is
Speaker 2: it that they are saying, hey, it it hasn't happened
Speaker 2: in years. But what if someone in a playoff game
Speaker 2: takes him away. Let's make sure Xavier Worthy's ready, Let's
Speaker 2: make sure everybody else is ready. And then in the
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, he has his worst game in five
Speaker 2: years in the playoffs, and other guys step up. If
Speaker 2: you're contending for a championship, sometimes preparing to win the
Speaker 2: title is not the same as making sure every single
Speaker 2: possession of my Week seven game against the Jets is
Speaker 2: the highest EPA. And that's where the Chiefs have been brilliant.
Speaker 2: And that's where the Bills I.
Speaker 1: Think have not been well. And I yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think to defend Josh here because I think he's all
Speaker 1: time stuff. I don't think fans understand this if you watched,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to give away where I
Speaker 1: heard this, but it comes from a good source. Belichick
Speaker 1: can't even speak offensive football like defensive coaches. They don't
Speaker 1: really understand offensive football. That's not what they do. And
Speaker 1: one of the things I've always pointed to, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm the only guy talking about this regularly pat
Speaker 1: myself in the back. Have you noticed how offensive coaches
Speaker 1: can rearrange the deck chairs with an offensive line within
Speaker 1: an off season and fix it. And He's done it
Speaker 1: twice the seasoned and left multiple times. This year. They
Speaker 1: were terrible the first five weeks. By the end of
Speaker 1: the year, Stafford never got touched. Defensive coaches can't do that.
Speaker 1: Tomlin's on seven straight years of battle lines. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz showed during the playoff loss the Steelers offensive
Speaker 1: line mayhem. They didn't know where they were going. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were often pulling to the wrong place. Offensive coaches
Speaker 1: speak the language of offense, and the league has pivoted
Speaker 1: to reward them. It's almost like if Trump. You know,
Speaker 1: when Trump goes out and says, hey, I'm pro you
Speaker 1: know bitcoin, cryptocurrency, I am pro cryptocurrency. Well, you know
Speaker 1: that that benefits people in the industry, like the NFL's
Speaker 1: basically said over the last ten years, we're gonna go offense.
Speaker 1: We're gonna literally change the game. And so there's a
Speaker 1: big chunk of these defensive coaches. They don't speak it.
Speaker 1: They don't speak it. They don't understand the language and
Speaker 1: what you're asking, which is why wouldn't they create a
Speaker 1: second play. Well, that's not their natural instinct, that's not
Speaker 1: who they are. Andy Reid in the off season will
Speaker 1: send me plays he's working on that he found on
Speaker 1: YouTube for Rose Bowls in the forties, Like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you what I'm gonna use this,
Speaker 1: don't share this and look at this play. That's not
Speaker 1: what defensive coaches do. And I think it's the great.
Speaker 2: So what do you think they should do? Because the
Speaker 2: thing is because because the I agree with a lot
Speaker 2: of what you're saying, and I also it's like, but
Speaker 2: there isn't a the proven excellent offensive coach available. B
Speaker 2: Belichick took the Carolina job, So it's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's just get better situationally, and you know, even in
Speaker 2: a short term, he's beaten Andy, he's beaten Patrick. And
Speaker 2: I understand the folks who are like, man, if it's
Speaker 2: been this long, you haven't broken through against this team.
Speaker 2: Even if mcdermot's an excellent coach, sometimes what happens to
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson to elevate to Steve Kerr as Brew talks about,
Speaker 2: needs to happen. I get all that, but can you
Speaker 2: take the risk of this part of Josh Allen's prime
Speaker 2: of we're handing the reins over to a first time
Speaker 2: unknown head coach because he's an offensive guy. Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I think listen. I think so is Sean McVay,
Speaker 1: and so is Matt Fluor.
Speaker 2: Right, I think you so was all the guys who failed,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, Sean McDermott. I think my comp has
Speaker 1: always been Chuck Knox. I'm saying this is my age.
Speaker 1: But Chuck Knox was known as an organizer, highly competent,
Speaker 1: B plus coach, Seahawks bills. If you were a shit show,
Speaker 1: he got you on the right path. But he was
Speaker 1: called ground Chuck because the playoffs would come, and like
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer, he got hyper conservative. And I just think
Speaker 1: that's your fade in life? Is that sometimes? Nick? You know,
Speaker 1: let's just take our business for instance, is that some
Speaker 1: people in my age don't do social media. I think
Speaker 1: it's a huge disadvantage. I do a ton of social media.
Speaker 1: I've got a TikTok clip on Brawny today. They'll get
Speaker 1: three million people. I feed into it. I'm into it.
Speaker 1: I love it. Not everybody sixty plus with gray hair
Speaker 1: is into all these social media platforms. The world we're
Speaker 1: in has changed. TV doesn't drive all the business. I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. There are other things in other industries
Speaker 1: people aren't comfortable with. The NFL culture has changed. It's
Speaker 1: all offense, and so a lot of these defensive coaches,
Speaker 1: they're beholden to hiring the right OC in the minute.
Speaker 1: You know, Josh McDaniels and Brady leaves bella check screwed.
Speaker 1: There's nothing he can do. He doesn't know what he's doing,
Speaker 1: and so I think it's just like anything else. This
Speaker 1: is something I think about all the time. In broadcasting.
Speaker 1: I'm watching the culture. I'm not worried about me being
Speaker 1: good or you after me being good. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about my staff. What I'm constantly worried about in the
Speaker 1: volume is where's the culture going? Where is it going?
Speaker 1: I want to be ahead of where the culture is changing.
Speaker 1: I know my people are talented, so that's the stuff
Speaker 1: I lose sleepover. Offensive coaches have been given the baton
Speaker 1: by the league, and defensive coaches now are trapped. They're
Speaker 1: totally beholden to hiring the right OC and they know
Speaker 1: if he's any good in two years he gets a
Speaker 1: head job. So it is really a disadvantage to be
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Sean McDermott. What is he on
Speaker 1: his third or fourth OC?
Speaker 2: Well, right, you had Dable, you had Doris orc and
Speaker 2: now you have bra Brady, so you're on your third. No,
Speaker 2: the the.
Speaker 1: And each one's a different language. I mean with Andy,
Speaker 1: he's always got the system.
Speaker 2: Correct, and that's well. Listen, the chiefs are that the
Speaker 2: dream scenario is brilliant offensive head coach paired with brilliant
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator who the whole league has just decided can't
Speaker 2: be a head coach, and then it's just like okay,
Speaker 2: and we lose.
Speaker 1: But for the record, this is why what Ben Johnson
Speaker 1: did in Chicago's great Dennis Allen's not getting a head
Speaker 1: job he.
Speaker 2: Has I totally agree with that. That's exactly right. That
Speaker 2: could be in Spagnolo exactly.
Speaker 1: Right, And he hired a twenty eight year old OC
Speaker 1: that nobody's going to hire for four years until he's
Speaker 1: thirty two. So basically Ben I thought this was the
Speaker 1: smartest move of all the coach is Ben Johnson hired
Speaker 1: two assistants, will not leave for four years, and that
Speaker 1: organization's been all movement and chaos.
Speaker 2: And it also a similar thing might happen for Vrabel
Speaker 2: because I don't know who's giving Josh McDaniels his next opportunity,
Speaker 2: but it'll be a sad time.
Speaker 1: He never sold his house there either.
Speaker 2: Right, And so with like McDaniels, he got the Broncos
Speaker 2: job that didn't work, he walked out on the Colts,
Speaker 2: he got the Raiders' job that didn't work. So if
Speaker 2: you're Vabel and you're like, Okay, Drake May's the future,
Speaker 2: I don't want Drake May to have this rotating offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator situation. Josh McDaniels is perfect because what is probably
Speaker 2: doesn't get another head coaching job, and if he does,
Speaker 2: it's in like five six, seven years. It's one of
Speaker 2: the sneaky I don't want to make commanders fans feel
Speaker 2: worse today. But semi concerns for Jaden is well, you
Speaker 2: definitely want Jayden to be awesome again, right, Okay, sure,
Speaker 2: if he's awesome again next year, Cliff Kingsbury is getting
Speaker 2: another job.
Speaker 1: It's just just you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like, the the only way Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 2: This sounds so shitty, but the only way Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 2: doesn't leave Jaden Daniels in a year is if next
Speaker 2: year goes terribly So that like that is the curse
Speaker 2: of the defensive head coach is You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: worry about that for you know, CJ. With Demiko amazing
Speaker 2: as a rookie, people are worried, Oh man, Bobby Sloan's
Speaker 2: gonna get a head coaching job. Then this year Slogan's bad,
Speaker 2: they get rid of him either way. That that that turnover.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why I thought, as much as I
Speaker 2: respect for Abel and think he's an excellent coach, for
Speaker 2: Caleb's sake, I wanted them to hire Ben Johnson because
Speaker 2: the hope is he is he is hearing this all
Speaker 2: offensive language for the next decade, and that's the only
Speaker 2: way you can guarantee that is an offensive coach.
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Speaker 1: Let's both think of something where we were the most
Speaker 1: wrong we've been all football season. So I'll give you
Speaker 1: what it is and why it is, and I'll let
Speaker 1: you think. So you know, this is how I think,
Speaker 1: I love. I think it matters. I want my quarterback
Speaker 1: to have a little artist but mostly be an accountant.
Speaker 1: I want you to go. I want you to be
Speaker 1: have kind of Matt Ryan Jalen Hurt's personality justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: stand up there, talk about the team, put out fires,
Speaker 1: be in line. Brady's as good as anybody for as
Speaker 1: big as star as Mahomes is, he really always just
Speaker 1: says nice things. He's really he's figured.
Speaker 2: Out how the art. My buddy, my former intern started
Speaker 2: interrupts in Kansas City, and who I'm sure hates that
Speaker 2: I always call my former intern because he's now the
Speaker 2: afternoon drive host six ten in Kansas City and has
Speaker 2: been for a long time. He has a weekly interview
Speaker 2: with Patrick Mahomes and has had it for years, and
Speaker 2: God bless Carrington Harrison, who does a great job. That
Speaker 2: poor guy never ever gets any news out of it
Speaker 2: because Patrick says.
Speaker 1: Nothing like He's had a weekly exclusive interview with Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes for five years.
Speaker 2: And if you ever played one clip of it on
Speaker 2: your show. The answer is probably not, because Patrick is
Speaker 2: just so trained to say nothing, just say absolutely nothing,
Speaker 2: but go ahead.
Speaker 1: So and that's how I like my quarterbacks. I've said
Speaker 1: this Johnny Manziel, Baker, Mayfield, Jamis Winston, Cam Newton. If
Speaker 1: I see ego, if I see self importance, if I
Speaker 1: see Jay Cutler grumpiness, I just do not like it.
Speaker 1: And I think I've overwhelmingly been right. So I watched
Speaker 1: Nick Surreanni's opening press conference. It's the worst I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: He's terrible at the podium, he wore a jersey at
Speaker 1: the last time after last win. He's yelled at fans,
Speaker 1: he's gone after players, and he's had position coaches hold
Speaker 1: him back. His methodology stinks, and yet they love him.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is ridiculous. This is the exact
Speaker 1: opposite of what I want my coach to be. And
Speaker 1: so I've come to try to figure it out. And
Speaker 1: I went and watched In Chicago, I went and watched
Speaker 1: the comedian Sebastian Menacowsko. Very very funny guy, great performer.
Speaker 1: He minds me a lot of Chris Rock. He's like
Speaker 1: Allie in his prime. I mean, he's got the look,
Speaker 1: the physicality. He's really a performer, very funny, and a
Speaker 1: lot of his act is his Italian family and how
Speaker 1: dysfunctional and how they yell at each other and the
Speaker 1: love is so deep and embedded in the family. And
Speaker 1: I've learned this. Cultures are different. There are couples that
Speaker 1: argue and that yell at each other, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. And they've been married thirty seven years,
Speaker 1: and I imagine the makeup sex is great, like they
Speaker 1: just get along. It just works. And I've come to
Speaker 1: terms with Siriani is that in a highly emotional city
Speaker 1: with a highly intense GM and fan base and radio media,
Speaker 1: that's just barking and make he just fits. He is
Speaker 1: the family member. He can handle the bs, he can
Speaker 1: handle the noise. He sometimes he's half fan. I just
Speaker 1: thought this is not He's very dependent on coordinators.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, man, everything you're saying is fair. I
Speaker 2: still can't get there with him. Like everything you're saying
Speaker 2: is true, Here's what's also true. Had they blocked Jalen Carter,
Speaker 2: they being the rams on that third down in round two.
Speaker 2: I think it's possible he was fired ten days ago.
Speaker 2: If after that, he's up thirteen against the Rams with
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts injured, and then up six when he called
Speaker 2: that boot play action roll out on second and seven
Speaker 2: that resulted in a dozen yard sack and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Stafford's driving down the field down six, chance
Speaker 2: to steal the game. I think they might have gotten
Speaker 2: rid of him now. Instead, he's a game away from
Speaker 2: having the greatest start to a career or any coach.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it. I because everything,
Speaker 2: every instinct I.
Speaker 1: Have says, well, this guy's just a dofis the same.
Speaker 2: But you have, like, if any position should be judged
Speaker 2: based on their record, it should be head coach, and
Speaker 2: his record is historically good. So I don't it really
Speaker 2: tests a lot of my beliefs of what should and
Speaker 2: what does work in the NFL. And so yeah, this one,
Speaker 2: I mean this offseason, they totally you know, what's the
Speaker 2: word that's always used in political twitter, definished traded him,
Speaker 2: I think is the word. They didn't even let him
Speaker 2: pick his own coordinators, you know what I mean. Early
Speaker 2: in the years, he's freaking out, yelling at his fans
Speaker 2: after Quinn. Even after the NFC championship game, Jalen hurts,
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, coach finally let me out of my
Speaker 2: straight jacket. Like that's a weird thing the whole. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. But they haven't lost a game that
Speaker 2: Jalen started and finished in four months, and they're playing
Speaker 2: in the super second Super Bowl in two years, ear
Speaker 2: in three years. So yeah, this that one baffles me.
Speaker 2: That's that's my worst. I was basically perfect on my
Speaker 2: AFC preseason.
Speaker 1: Takes, saying, I predicting it's become a very easy conference
Speaker 1: in the standings to predict.
Speaker 2: And so I got and I could not have been
Speaker 2: more wrong about the NFC. So I obviously famously had
Speaker 2: the Bears not only making the playoffs for winning the conference,
Speaker 2: but I also had the Eagles missing the playoffs. I
Speaker 2: did it. I had Washington finishing ahead of the Eagles,
Speaker 2: and my rationale was, Man, something really weird happened last
Speaker 2: year to that team, and I don't trust this coach
Speaker 2: to pull them out of it. And I also thought
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley would be good but not great for them,
Speaker 2: But instead Saquon had one of the greatest years any
Speaker 2: running backs had in the history of football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's.
Speaker 2: I'm really whiffed on the NFC stuff this year, I think,
Speaker 2: and even my gambling on the NFC was worse this year.
Speaker 2: I do think that there's probably a tax for me
Speaker 2: on being so dialed in on Kansas City that I
Speaker 2: see the AFC a lot clearer than the NFC.
Speaker 1: Well, also, in the last eleven years, if you count
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, there's been ten different quarterbacks from the
Speaker 1: at NFC represented the Super Bowl. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is the first and eleven years to do it. Like,
Speaker 1: you don't know who's gonna win the NFC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because all the Hall of Fame quarterbacks except for
Speaker 2: the Packers quarterback basically over a long period, I guess
Speaker 2: Breeze and Rogers were the two great NFC quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: then all the other ones were in the AFC. Can
Speaker 2: I ask you a question, sure, Yeah, go ahead, after
Speaker 2: this year, take this year out of it. This group
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks, the Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Lamar, that group, they're
Speaker 2: all twenty eight to twenty nine. Let's say optimistically they
Speaker 2: all have ten more good years. That's probably on the
Speaker 2: high end, But let's give them a decade, ten more seasons.
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five season onward Man, at least one
Speaker 2: of those guys is never making much less winning a
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Like moving forward, so I know Joe's already
Speaker 2: made what because here's the way I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, because everyone's like, do you think Josh
Speaker 2: will eventually get one? And intellectually I'm like, yes, of course,
Speaker 2: he's the second best player in the league. Of course
Speaker 2: he'll get one. But then I'm like, well, wait a minute. Okay,
Speaker 2: So in the next ten years, let's say Patrick slows down,
Speaker 2: he only makes four of the next.
Speaker 1: And Andy Reid retires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's just say Pat. Let's say Patrick only
Speaker 2: makes four of the next ten, So there's six. So
Speaker 2: that's six for Lamar, Josh, Joe. I know You've got
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert getting the one eventually, Bo Nix, CJ. Stroud
Speaker 2: And we're talking about ten years, so a couple more
Speaker 2: generations coming into the league like these guys. All of
Speaker 2: these guys being in the AFC is devastating for the
Speaker 2: resumes they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Build well, and the one that's in trouble is Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: The Bengals had to sell naming rights to the stadium
Speaker 1: to pay his contract. People don't understand this. The gentleman
Speaker 1: who first of all, the Bengals don't have any money.
Speaker 1: They don't have any money. It's just like the poorest
Speaker 1: ownership group. Joe Burrow knows it. They had to sell
Speaker 1: naming rights to a stadium to pay him. They started
Speaker 1: peeling off players even before they paid Jamar Chase. They're
Speaker 1: peeling off of them now. Safety yeah, and they're already
Speaker 1: peeling off players. They are the opposite of the Eagles.
Speaker 1: They are anti risk and reward. They take no risks. Tobin,
Speaker 1: the general manager, has been there forever pleasant, very nice guy,
Speaker 1: got no power. I mean, the Brown family runs the organization.
Speaker 1: They are essentially a Triple A operation in Major League
Speaker 1: Baseball that happens to have Joe Burrow. People make fun
Speaker 1: of the Raiders. The Raiders because of some new ownership
Speaker 1: groups that have come in, are flushed with cash. That's
Speaker 1: why they can pay four coaches and three general managers.
Speaker 1: They got nothing but money. They got Mark Davis has
Speaker 1: nothing but money. And the Raiders are a brand. And
Speaker 1: also it's Las Vegas. It's a growing city. There's real
Speaker 1: money there, no state tax, very attractive place. Cincinnati, they
Speaker 1: got no money Burrow. They'll never have a stacked roster.
Speaker 1: The only time to really be great with him was
Speaker 1: when he was on the rookie contract. When they pay
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, they're out of money, like Joe Burrow, I
Speaker 1: feel terrible for him. Joe Burrow would need to be
Speaker 1: super human. I mean, this year, he was as good
Speaker 1: as he's ever been. They couldn't make the playoffs. Herbert's
Speaker 1: gonna get better with Harbaugh. Like that's gonna only get better, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like you're just Herbert. I think
Speaker 1: Burrow is the one in trouble.
Speaker 2: And here's the other. Here's the other concern for all
Speaker 2: those guys. Will they may be different for Joe because
Speaker 2: he's done it, But will those guys be able to
Speaker 2: play Patrick Mahomes beat him, which is part of the hypothetical,
Speaker 2: and then psychologically be able to recenter and be like
Speaker 2: that wasn't the super Bowl? Not like we like that's
Speaker 2: the thing that I would worry about for the Bills.
Speaker 2: Not I do think Listen, Mahomes is not gonna go
Speaker 2: undefeated against Allen in his career in the playoffs, they
Speaker 2: will win. But man, if next year the Bills finally
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs in the playoffs, it's gonna be really
Speaker 2: hard to psychologically then reset and be like, actually, the
Speaker 2: next game is the tougher, bigger one. And so that's
Speaker 2: the we have never. I can't remember a time when
Speaker 2: it felt this disproportionate in quarterbacking talent conference to conference,
Speaker 2: and what it's going to mean for these guys kind
Speaker 2: of legacies when it comes to who they were as
Speaker 2: far as winning players or winning championships.
Speaker 1: So I grew up a baseball fan, but the sport
Speaker 1: it's like what democrats named like Bill mar will say,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is leaving me. I haven't changed. I
Speaker 1: was a baseball guy over a football guy when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, and then the sport just got slow
Speaker 1: and ponderous and football was just better on television. And
Speaker 1: I've lived through TV like that's my life as a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw something at you that I think
Speaker 1: is going to happen is that I think if you
Speaker 1: take out the NFL, that every other sport is dependent
Speaker 1: on where the best players play, and it does not help.
Speaker 1: For instance, college football got too southern and two regional Alabama, Georgia, Clemson.
Speaker 1: It hurt the sport. Michigan and Ohio states emergence will
Speaker 1: help the sport over time. It will bring a big group.
Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast guy. I was a big ten
Speaker 1: PAC twelve guy because the Rose Bowl. So I'm more
Speaker 1: of a big ten guy an SEC guy, although I
Speaker 1: can acknowledge the SEC's great. I think we're going to
Speaker 1: have a change here in the next five to ten
Speaker 1: years in sports. And that is when the regional sports
Speaker 1: networks went away and Fox let them go. They were
Speaker 1: out of money an hour later. And those were vital
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh's, Cincinnati, Oakland, Kansas City, Seattle. They were vital.
Speaker 1: Sure the sport now is basically in the hands of
Speaker 1: the Dodgers Steve Cohen, and I mean, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Steinbrenners can compete. Steinbrenners are saying
Speaker 1: they can't. What you're seeing now in baseball is all
Speaker 1: the riveting players play for the Dodgers, the Phillies, the
Speaker 1: Mets or the Yankees. And I think we're going to
Speaker 1: have a renaissance in baseball is that with these regional
Speaker 1: networks gone, there's not even the forget the fake of parents,
Speaker 1: that there's parody. There are like four kings at the top.
Speaker 1: Everything else is upon nothing else.
Speaker 2: And if you think that's good for the sport.
Speaker 1: No, No, what I think it's good for is the
Speaker 1: primary weakness of baseball. It's television ratings. The attendance is fine,
Speaker 1: it's always dominated this summer. It has died on television.
Speaker 1: Last year's National League playoffs, it was like New York,
Speaker 1: La San Diego and eight of the best thirteen players
Speaker 1: in the sport. And that we always think parody matters, No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. The truth of the matter is if the Celtics,
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, and the Lakers were great right now, the
Speaker 1: NBA would be in great shape. Oklahoma City is not
Speaker 1: good for the league. There is this belief. This is
Speaker 1: where I always say about Kansas City. Dynasties aren't bad.
Speaker 1: Great players on great brands are not bad for the league.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a run. I think the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: Steve Conan, the Mets, the Yankees, and maybe one other
Speaker 1: team will not be able to afford the best players.
Speaker 1: That that's it. Philadelphia, maybe Phillies because their attendance and
Speaker 1: their merchandising is so strong. I don't know about their
Speaker 1: TV radio deals locally. Is that I think baseball has
Speaker 1: something the NBA doesn't. All they're fascinating players. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I told you this is the six big TV
Speaker 1: products they have Otani, Judge, Bryce Harper, Mookie Betts. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's all Manny Machado, Tati. They're all in the big
Speaker 1: They're all in these big, glossy, favorable markets. There's my
Speaker 1: take is that we're going to have a renaissance, that
Speaker 1: baseball is going to come storming back. It did in
Speaker 1: the postseason.
Speaker 2: So I think this year is the most important year
Speaker 2: baseball's had in a very very long time because of
Speaker 2: two things, and you kind of alluded to both of them.
Speaker 2: One is the momentum of last postseason, which is absolutely tremendous,
Speaker 2: and the other is the general angst an annoyance by
Speaker 2: the average fan towards the NBA.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that it is incumbent upon baseball too. And
Speaker 2: I don't have a listen. I haven't spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time thinking about this, so I don't even know
Speaker 2: exactly what I mean by this, but to seize this
Speaker 2: moment because I agree with you. I mean, we did
Speaker 2: our show from the World Series. Now, that's because it
Speaker 2: was in New York so it was easy to get to,
Speaker 2: but also because we were all so into it. It
Speaker 2: was great. It felt like such a cool event and
Speaker 2: it was. It was so lively and active, and it
Speaker 2: made me remember when you know, and when we when
Speaker 2: I first started, it was shortly after when you first started,
Speaker 2: was before I even had a show. We were doing
Speaker 2: our shows from the NBA Finals, even though they were
Speaker 2: not in LA. It was Warriors Calves every year, and
Speaker 2: we traveled to Cleveland to do our shows because it
Speaker 2: was such an event that I think baseball. So I
Speaker 2: was talking to a mutual friend of ours. I don't
Speaker 2: think you'll mind me saying this, so I'll just yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll quote him on it, our friend Maverick, and he
Speaker 2: said that the media is moving towards an events model
Speaker 2: where things have to feel like an event. And it's
Speaker 2: why even though Mike Tyson's sixty years old and could
Speaker 2: barely get to the ring, that was huge, it felt.
Speaker 2: And the NFL every game feels like an event. You'll
Speaker 2: have the college football playoff.
Speaker 1: Playoff is exactly UFC feels a big an.
Speaker 2: Event and so that's really really hard for baseball. So,
Speaker 2: you know what, because there's so many games, so finding
Speaker 2: ways maybe it is via marketing their stars to fuck
Speaker 2: to pick these benchmarks that are their events of the
Speaker 2: year or mono matchups or games.
Speaker 1: This is where Fox gets credit. They're the one that
Speaker 1: came up with the London game, the game in the Cornfield.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Field a Dreams game. That felt big. That's
Speaker 2: an event like something cool like that that makes it
Speaker 2: stand out from the the noise of everything else. That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was Fox. Fox management came and said,
Speaker 1: you guys need more big events and they work. By
Speaker 1: the way, I watched the London games, they were cool.
Speaker 2: Especially Field a Dreams game is cool every year. It's
Speaker 2: just awesome. It looks cool, it's it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think Maverick Carter's right on that. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of reasons for that. But I
Speaker 1: think you have to you know, like I, it's easy
Speaker 1: to root for the Dodgers or the Chiefs. Like I
Speaker 1: have the Dodgers on throughout the summer in Los Angeles, everybody,
Speaker 1: every other guy that comes to the bat is an
Speaker 1: all Star. It's like an All Star game. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 1: you get down to like Taoscar Hernandez is batting fifth,
Speaker 1: and you're like, Jesus, he just dominated the series in
Speaker 1: the Bronx, like everybody's great. The whole damn team is great.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, they've got Tommy Edmund batting eighth.
Speaker 4: That he was like the NLCS MVP, You're like, it's
Speaker 4: an all star team.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the Chiefs on this
Speaker 1: because of your phanom and and your loyalty and devotion
Speaker 1: to him. And I made this argument that I think
Speaker 1: I talked to an executive two weeks ago because I
Speaker 1: had said something on the air and he disagreed. He goes,
Speaker 1: there's this because I called the Bills the Chiefs without
Speaker 1: the trophies. And he goes, and this GM's team played both,
Speaker 1: and he said, the Chiefs got way better players, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, he said, Josh Allen's great, he said, but
Speaker 1: and James Cook is a nice find, he said, But
Speaker 1: none of their receivers scare you. He says, their defensive
Speaker 1: line doesn't have a dominant player russo At Oliver. There
Speaker 1: flashes at Oliver gives you flashes. He said, Kansas City's
Speaker 1: linebackers are better tacklers and faster. They've got the best
Speaker 1: corner they Chris Jones is unblockable and moves all over
Speaker 1: the line. And he said, there's this feeling that Buffalo
Speaker 1: and Kansas City and even Baltimore to agree to a degree,
Speaker 1: it's just Mahomes is the difference. And he said, he said, no,
Speaker 1: Kansas City's got six to seven players that Buffalo that
Speaker 1: would start immediately for Buffalo over players perceived as really
Speaker 1: good players for Buffalo.
Speaker 2: So all all just you know, listen, I think Patrick,
Speaker 2: if you give them a chance, finds a way. And
Speaker 2: I obviously Andy is you know, we've talked about it.
Speaker 2: I end up the greatest coach of all time. He's
Speaker 2: certainly now on the mount Rushmore and moving up. But
Speaker 2: it's also the margins are so thin in what makes
Speaker 2: a good team great and a great team legendary. So
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go to two seemingly innocuous Draft
Speaker 2: day transactions that involve the Chiefs and the Bills, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Not You're right with both of them, By the way,
Speaker 1: you're right with both of these.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm not talking about the Chiefs trading
Speaker 2: with the Bills to get Mahomes. Set that aside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in in twenty twenty one, after the Chiefs trade. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill. They have the
Speaker 2: extra first round pick. The New England Patriots are on
Speaker 2: the clock. The Bills are drafting right after him. The
Speaker 2: Chiefs need a corner. They're drafting later. The Bills need
Speaker 2: a corner. The Chiefs trade up with New England with
Speaker 2: the express purpose of getting ahead of Buffer. They draft
Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie, who now is a two time All Pro
Speaker 2: and in my opinion, a top four corner in the
Speaker 2: entire NFL.
Speaker 1: Well University of Washington. I watched him twenty five times
Speaker 1: in college.
Speaker 2: The spectacular player.
Speaker 1: Spectacular player.
Speaker 2: Again, two time Not Pro Bowl, All Pro after three
Speaker 2: years in the league. The Bills still need a corner.
Speaker 2: They got jumped. They take kyer Elam, who has been
Speaker 2: at the bottom of their roster since they took him.
Speaker 2: When he got put in the game because Benford got
Speaker 2: hurt On Sunday, Romo basically was like, well they're in trouble.
Speaker 2: That's happened in the draft last year. In the draft,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Bills both need a receiver. The
Speaker 2: Bills do not value Xavier Worthy because they like a
Speaker 2: lot of people. By the way, think ah, one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty pounds, I don't know man. The Chiefs want
Speaker 2: him because Patrick really really wants him. The Bills want
Speaker 2: a big red zone target. They want Keon Coleman. He's
Speaker 2: gonna be there later, so they're like, I think we
Speaker 2: were gonna take Keon here anyway, probably might as well
Speaker 2: get the extra pick trade with Kansas City. Kansas City
Speaker 2: takes a receiver Xavior Worthy, they take Keon Coleman. Man.
Speaker 2: You flip those two players. In the AFC Championship game,
Speaker 2: Buffalo wins if the chief If the Buffalo is Tritt
Speaker 2: mcduffy and not Kyrielum or even the Xavior Worthy. At
Speaker 2: one hundred yards and a touchdown, Keon Coleman had.
Speaker 1: Nothing Buffalo see, I'd push back. Buffalo wouldn't use him
Speaker 1: like Andy Reid. Andy Reid because I was one of
Speaker 1: those He's one hundred and sixty pounds, He's a gadget guy,
Speaker 1: and he was in the first two months of the season. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's Andy's development of him into I mean, if you
Speaker 1: go look at Rashi Rice, he came in, you're.
Speaker 2: Like, and he was awesome by the end of the year.
Speaker 1: People are I talked to Andy, read about this today
Speaker 1: on the show, or it'll be a Wednesday if you're
Speaker 1: listening Thursday morning. I'm like, everybody thinks college and high
Speaker 1: school's development. I'm like, take me through the process of
Speaker 1: how you turn a gadget guy into a volume guy.
Speaker 1: And he just said, we asked him to do a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff, and not all the players will do this.
Speaker 1: Xavior Worthy said yes to all the things we asked
Speaker 1: him to do. Because Xavier Worthy. I talk to people
Speaker 1: before the draft, I get a lot of my opinions
Speaker 1: and they're like, he's a gadget guy. He's not a
Speaker 1: twelve target guy. And Andy made him that. So I
Speaker 1: don't think if I don't think if Xavier Worthy, I
Speaker 1: don't think if he's in Buffalo he ever becomes the
Speaker 1: chat that.
Speaker 2: Might be true. McDuffie. I think is great anywhere. I
Speaker 2: think he's a great player. And so it's just the
Speaker 2: point I'm making is like, it's it's really got to
Speaker 2: be the whole organization, Brent Beach pulling in the same direction.
Speaker 2: If you are trying to achieve something no team ever has,
Speaker 2: whis what they're trying to do?
Speaker 1: How about this? The Chiefs have made five of the
Speaker 1: last six Super Bowls. Yes, the Eagles and Niners two each.
Speaker 1: The other two winners, Rams and Bucks. What do they
Speaker 1: have in common? Uber aggressive gms all make moves at
Speaker 1: the deadline, all trade up to the draft. Conservative teams
Speaker 1: like the Steelers and Packers, Bengals in the end, in
Speaker 1: personnel they can't keep up. Is that this this is
Speaker 1: a real thing? Is that? Veach? Look at the trade
Speaker 1: ups mahomes, Yes, McDuffie, and this is this is why
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows screwed. Look at look at Howie Roseman. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody talks about the Saquon Barkley move. That wasn't even brilliant.
Speaker 1: That was an easy one. I could have made that move.
Speaker 2: I mean right, and I'm not the I don't want
Speaker 2: to undersell it because again I underestimated saque But the
Speaker 2: risky moves are you bring up? Howie? Listen? Howie Roseman
Speaker 2: said Jane Carter might be the most sounded player in
Speaker 2: this draft. He's falling because of the off the field
Speaker 2: issues with the car accident in the tragedy there. We
Speaker 2: want him, we think he's a superstar. We and we're
Speaker 2: gonna trade up. They traded up with Chicago. Chicago had
Speaker 2: that pick traded back. They take Jalen Carter. He's instantly,
Speaker 2: you know, the best d tackle in the whole conference
Speaker 2: for them, Like, yeah, that's that's right. The things less
Speaker 2: Sneam did Jason Light with the Bucks. It really if
Speaker 2: you it's too hard to win championships in this league. Yes,
Speaker 2: you need to have a quarterback that kicks ass almost always.
Speaker 2: You also, though, need you know this, the sharp head
Speaker 2: coach and the forward thinking GM and the guys, the
Speaker 2: young players to develop you gotta you gotta hit all
Speaker 2: of it in quick succession.
Speaker 1: So you know I'm moving to Chicago here in the spring.
Speaker 2: Have you So it's official, it's official.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bought a house.
Speaker 2: Well I well, I did see that you bought a house,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if you have it's officially. This
Speaker 2: is this you're breaking the news.
Speaker 1: No, No, first of all, it's I figured you and
Speaker 1: I talk about this stuff, and so no, I mean
Speaker 1: I told Fox six months ago and Fox has been great.
Speaker 1: Fox has been I know Fox knows.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, is the audience finding this out from you
Speaker 2: for the first time right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know if they are. I don't think they
Speaker 1: care because when you watch me on TV, you don't
Speaker 1: care where I'm at, do you?
Speaker 2: So, are you gonna be do you think full time Chicago? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Eighty five percent. I'll come and do a week during
Speaker 1: the football season in Los Angeles. I'll do a week
Speaker 1: like in September. I'll come out for a week October November,
Speaker 1: and the staff will build. You know, we'll have a
Speaker 1: lot of live But ninety percent of my guests. You're
Speaker 1: a great example my three or four strongest guests that
Speaker 1: pop rating. You're one of them. You're not live. Next
Speaker 1: to me, Joel Klatt is probably as strong as any
Speaker 1: guest I have because he is in studio and we
Speaker 1: go back and forth to each other. But the truth
Speaker 1: of the matter is is Brady's been on, Drew Brees
Speaker 1: and Hasselbeck. They're not live, They're not live. Co Sell's
Speaker 1: not live and flown.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, So none of it's or none of it's in studio.
Speaker 1: I am because I think my wife has given a
Speaker 1: lot to my career and sacrificed. I love Chicago. I've
Speaker 1: said my two favorite cities in the world are London
Speaker 1: and Chicago. I like LA. My wife doesn't like it
Speaker 1: as much.
Speaker 3: I like LA.
Speaker 1: It's kind of spread out for me. I kind of
Speaker 1: like the downtown area I like. I like Kensington, Paddington.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: In London, I like like kind of urban areas where
Speaker 1: I can just walk all day long. In Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I don't have that Chicago. I can just walk down town.
Speaker 1: I like that that. I like Florence, Italy, London, Chicago.
Speaker 1: I like walking around a town. You can't do that
Speaker 1: in Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles. LA is just too spread out.
Speaker 1: So I like where I live, but it lacks that
Speaker 1: sort of feel for me, and so I love the city.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: She's got her sister there. I've got a lot of
Speaker 1: friends there. And I think it's just time to help.
Speaker 1: I think it's a better guy.
Speaker 2: And so this well number of things. One is that's
Speaker 2: touching that you're doing this for your wife. I think
Speaker 2: it's fair to say the I think that's great. I
Speaker 2: think it is also exciting. You've never lived there, correct,
Speaker 2: so like you I know you have an apartment there,
Speaker 2: like you spent time. But you've lived a lot of places,
Speaker 2: but you've never had you know where you spend the
Speaker 2: majority of your time to Chicago, So correct.
Speaker 1: I've lived in four different homes in LA and eight
Speaker 1: so I move a lot.
Speaker 2: You move a lot, I do.
Speaker 1: I've lived in Connecticut, I've lived in Portland. I've lived
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I've lived in Tampa. I live in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, now Chicago. You know what I always said, Nick,
Speaker 1: I think it's an advantage as a broadcaster. I think
Speaker 1: it gives me a sense of every region. When I
Speaker 1: lived in Tampa, I had a motor sports, sec football.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the passion. It's like wow. For two years,
Speaker 1: I really learned what people care about. I look at
Speaker 1: it and first of all, you know, Chicago. Chicago is
Speaker 1: one of the great guys cities ever. Great bars, great steaks,
Speaker 1: great sports, great beach. It's just incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know you're gonna you're breaking our
Speaker 2: dear friend Danny Parkin's heart because I saw the article.
Speaker 2: Because listen, your you know your big time When you
Speaker 2: buy a house and it's a news story, It's like wow,
Speaker 2: famous broadcaster. I hate that so much and that I
Speaker 2: know you hate it, but it's cracks me up. But
Speaker 2: because of that, not only did I know you bought
Speaker 2: a house, but I know where it is. It's like
Speaker 2: six minutes from where Parkins used to live. And now
Speaker 2: Danny moved to Chicago. He's still you and him still
Speaker 2: I don't think have ever met in person. You guys
Speaker 2: are gonna be in person together for the first time
Speaker 2: ever at the super Bowl. But it also means all, see,
Speaker 2: if you're in Chicago, you're going to be in New
Speaker 2: York more often because you don't come to New York ever.
Speaker 2: And I now now it's a shortened a flight. I
Speaker 2: can guilt you into it. Our wives who have spent
Speaker 2: no time together can get together. We can go to Broadway.
Speaker 2: Do you have I told you this about me that
Speaker 2: the oddest thing that happened with me moving to New
Speaker 2: York is I found out I absolutely love Broadway. When
Speaker 2: I say love Broadway, I mean like I've seen Wicked
Speaker 2: four times. I see all the shows. I don't care
Speaker 2: how it sounds. I know. People. Here's the thing. When
Speaker 2: I got to New York, I'm like a musical that
Speaker 2: sounds terrible, and then you go and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is really like having court side seats to the
Speaker 2: NBA in that you're this close and these are the
Speaker 2: best in the world at what they do performing live
Speaker 2: and so that's like the food and Broadway or what
Speaker 2: I love about New York more than anything. But but
Speaker 2: so you'll be a little closer. That's exciting. Congratulations. It
Speaker 2: also means FS one is now like we're everywhere. We're
Speaker 2: in New York, Chicago, LA. That was na for That
Speaker 2: was my pever or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was my pitch. I said, Fox News, nobody's in
Speaker 1: New York and they're all over the country. Why does
Speaker 1: FS one have to all be in LA? And my
Speaker 1: take was, we don't have a show in the middle
Speaker 1: of the country. Why not?
Speaker 2: That was that was your pitch? Yeah, my pitch was
Speaker 2: probably like, this is really what I want to do,
Speaker 2: and you, guys, I'm I'm an important, good employee. You
Speaker 2: should probably Oh, I didn't say that. No, I that's exciting, man.
Speaker 2: I'm really happy for you. You've been talking about this
Speaker 2: for a while and so I'm really happy that's finally happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess I am announcing it. It is.
Speaker 1: But for the record, my employers have both been amazing.
Speaker 1: They both said, what do you want, We'll build your studio.
Speaker 1: So the thing about Fox Sports Fox Sports, I don't
Speaker 1: know that there's an ownership position with a Big ten. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: not to bore people with it, but there's certain things
Speaker 1: in television called fibers. And because Fox and the Big
Speaker 1: ten building and the Fox LA building have similar or
Speaker 1: share fibers, it's a really easy transition. Oh so I did.
Speaker 2: So I for the record, so the audience doesn't feel
Speaker 2: out of the loop. I have no idea what these
Speaker 2: fibers are. So I didn't know what you just said.
Speaker 2: I didn't know the audience to know. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: But you know, I did figure when you were first
Speaker 2: bringing this up, I didn't know exactly you're gonna pull
Speaker 2: it off, but I assumed Chicago was easier than if
Speaker 2: you were Like, guys, my wife desperately wants to live
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis. Let's figure it out, Like, Chicago's a
Speaker 2: huge city, the Big ten's there. Well, do you think you'll.
Speaker 1: Go You'll go to more college football games? Being right there, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm already a Bulls and black Hawks season ticket. Yep, older,
Speaker 1: So I bought season tickets there. I bought a suite
Speaker 1: at this at the basketball arena. So I go to
Speaker 1: you know, so I told Anne if I said, we're
Speaker 1: going to move to Chicago, and just to show you
Speaker 1: my commitment to you and the city, we're going to
Speaker 1: go to stuff a lot. So every time we go,
Speaker 1: I mean every other night, we go to an event,
Speaker 1: we go to a place downtown, we'll go watch music,
Speaker 1: do whatever we do. So and I got to tell
Speaker 1: you something. You know how you said you've discovered that
Speaker 1: you love Broadway, and Broadway is amazing. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: found that. I like, like, I love going to Europe.
Speaker 1: I've gone. I made a promise to my wife. I said,
Speaker 1: the next twenty years, we're gonna go minimum once a year.
Speaker 1: I love that. And I gotta be honest with you, Nick.
Speaker 1: You know what I really love. I like going out
Speaker 1: at night. I never thought I was go out at
Speaker 1: night guy. If I could go out every single night,
Speaker 1: every goddamn night, I would.
Speaker 2: I that's remarkable, all right. So I wouldn't have thought
Speaker 2: that either, because I am I'm not as much the
Speaker 2: club guy as I used to be. But let's not
Speaker 2: talking about clubs. I know you're not. I'm talking about me.
Speaker 2: But they I met my wife, she was a club promoter,
Speaker 2: is how we met. And so she and I used
Speaker 2: to go out all the time to clubs. Now we're
Speaker 2: more the very late dinners. Like last night, we had
Speaker 2: a night it was a Tuesday, whatever last night was.
Speaker 2: We had a nine o'clock dinner reservation some Italian place
Speaker 2: in New York. So I totally get that. So here's
Speaker 2: an added benefit, whether you're think about it or not.
Speaker 2: Even though your show's on at the same time, for you,
Speaker 2: it's two hours later.
Speaker 1: That's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you can you will be able to, you know,
Speaker 2: stay up later and you know, do more stuff. So
Speaker 2: here's the deal. Post super Bowl, this is what I am.
Speaker 2: I am foisting on you, but also committing to you.
Speaker 2: My wife and I will come to Chicago and we
Speaker 2: will all hang out. We will because that's an easy flight.
Speaker 2: I want to see the house. So Danielle and I
Speaker 2: post super Bowl sometime once you guys are settled, will
Speaker 2: come spend a weekend in Chicago.
Speaker 1: You will. Chicago is such you know, I've lived in
Speaker 1: two cities in the country that get a bad rap
Speaker 1: and are both pretty amazing. Los Angeles is really full
Speaker 1: of unbelievable people, and secondly Chicago. Chicago is such a
Speaker 1: cool town, the architecture, the people. I still don't think
Speaker 1: they've totally recovered from COVID. I think Michigan Avenue feels
Speaker 1: a little less active than it was, but I don't
Speaker 1: know it well enough to have big, strong opinions. I
Speaker 1: don't know how New York feels. I think COVID beat
Speaker 1: up some Midwest towns more than others, but I think
Speaker 1: it's I think you know people, you know, McIntyre's always like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's cold. I'm like, dude, they're called coats. I can't
Speaker 1: take like you live in Houston. I couldn't take that heat.
Speaker 1: I can take cold. I grew up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, the winter winters in Chicago, weatherwise,
Speaker 2: are rough. But there's there's a trade off to everything,
Speaker 2: and so I agree with you on that there there
Speaker 2: are certain cities that become just avatars for political points
Speaker 2: people are trying to make. Yeah, and so like San
Speaker 2: Francisco has become one in certain ways, Chicago forever has
Speaker 2: been one and because of that it has gotten listen
Speaker 2: it is it's one of the just objectively one of
Speaker 2: America's finest cities. And if you're one of America's finest cities,
Speaker 2: not all uber patritic, you're one of the finest cities
Speaker 2: in the world. And so and if you're a big
Speaker 2: obviously like you know, you want to spend more time
Speaker 2: going to Europe. It's not the biggest difference in the world,
Speaker 2: but it is a considerably easier flight like Chicago there
Speaker 2: from la there is a difference. It's why like my
Speaker 2: wife we spent last year after the Super Bowl, we
Speaker 2: went to Tokyo and then went to Tokyo South in Japan,
Speaker 2: and I truly think it was the greatest trip my
Speaker 2: wife's ever been on. She loved it so much. It
Speaker 2: it just feels almost prohibitive because it's like, man, it's
Speaker 2: six hours flying and you're still in the US like
Speaker 2: that from New York there, like it is a brutal
Speaker 2: in Europe, so easy from here. So that's great, man,
Speaker 2: And I'm glad. I'm honored you got announced it with me.
Speaker 2: This is gonna you know, the trades are gonna have
Speaker 2: a big field day with this oh, broadcaster con Coward
Speaker 2: and move in Chicago. Also, by the way, sweet sweet
Speaker 2: little kind of flex on the I already have a
Speaker 2: suite at the United Center. My goodness, gracious.
Speaker 1: Well that wasn't that was my wife, I promised my wife,
Speaker 1: I said, because she said, you're never gonna leave La.
Speaker 1: You love La. And I said, no, I have friends
Speaker 1: I love. I love my little clubs. I go to
Speaker 1: my little my little places with my buddies, my buddy
Speaker 1: David Slay, who owns restaurants in Manhattan Beach. I love
Speaker 1: the people, and I do think that the weather's nice,
Speaker 1: although I will tell you where I live is by
Speaker 1: the water. It gets cold in La in the winter
Speaker 1: a lot. My car was it was forty one degrees
Speaker 1: when I pulled out this morning.
Speaker 2: I would guess that's not an argue. You say that,
Speaker 2: and people in Chicago are like, my car literally froze.
Speaker 2: They're like, nobody wants to hear the forty one degrees.
Speaker 2: But listen, you're you're entering it. That's great.
Speaker 1: And I told Anne, I said, I'm going to commit
Speaker 1: to the city. I'm going to commit to tickets and
Speaker 1: we're going to go to events and comedy shows. We've
Speaker 1: seen John Mulaney and Sebastian Manekawsko, and we're going to
Speaker 1: go to anybody that's in town. And I love the people,
Speaker 1: and you know, I it's funny the life I've lived.
Speaker 1: Not to bore people, but it's a trade off. It
Speaker 1: would be awesome to live on the same street for
Speaker 1: forty five years and literally know my kids would have
Speaker 1: stories that, you know, they hung out with the Hamilton's
Speaker 1: cross the street. I think that's awesome. I've followed commerce,
Speaker 1: I've bounced all over the country, and there's some advantages
Speaker 1: and disadvantages to it. But I'm so excited to live
Speaker 1: in the Midwest, to live in a make great city
Speaker 1: next to cousins. I'm fired up. And my situations no
Speaker 1: disastern here in a couple of years maybe, So that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, you deserve it, and it's fantastic. I could
Speaker 2: think of no better way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're a Kansas City kid. You've lived in
Speaker 1: New York. It's been an amazing experience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and no, I've lived. I've lived Kansas City, Houston, Angeles,
Speaker 2: New York. I've lived you know, geographically, never SEC and
Speaker 2: never Pacific Northwest, but everywhere else I feel like I
Speaker 2: kind of have a feel for.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's one of the cool parts about the
Speaker 2: job is being able to have lived different places. I
Speaker 2: am at I think, and then I know we have
Speaker 2: to go. I think the next place all live is Vegas.
Speaker 2: I think that the because my wife wants to open
Speaker 2: a store in Vegas, and I obviously have, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of connections to poker and stuff, and so
Speaker 2: I the I think that I'll do. You know, my
Speaker 2: youngest is in sixth grade, and so all you know.
Speaker 2: I plan to be in New York for the bulk of,
Speaker 2: if not the entirety of my forties. But if I
Speaker 2: were to leave New York, I think Vegas is where
Speaker 2: is the place I.
Speaker 1: Think I would go next? Well, I lived there for
Speaker 1: seven years. I lived there when there was still mobsters,
Speaker 1: remnants of mobsters. It's a very corporate towns. It's an
Speaker 1: incredible food city, incredible and.
Speaker 2: It's even gotten better. Yeah, all the restaurants are there now.
Speaker 1: Because Nick Wright, good to see anybody. I love having
Speaker 1: you on as always, and this is going to become
Speaker 1: a more regular thing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Congrats man, talk to you soon. See you come
Speaker 1: The volume