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Speaker 1: we marched towards a huge weekend of football. Buck We've

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Speaker 1: But man, I'm great. I am great. Like obviously, you

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Speaker 1: is maybe the best young quarterback in the game. That's

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Speaker 1: how he's going to have to play for the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texas to win. On the flip side, if I'm the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and I am kind of coming in

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Speaker 1: and think about my game plan. If I'm in the red,

436
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Speaker 1: I am pushing the pace. I want to play fast.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if I can hit them with

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Speaker 1: a barrage very very early to get them on the heels.

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Speaker 1: When the Kans City Chiefs had normally come off for

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Speaker 1: bye week, in fact, when Andy Reid has come off

441
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Speaker 1: for bye week, he has been spectacular in terms of

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Speaker 1: his one lost record. I believe this game plan the

443
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Speaker 1: first fifteen has to be designed to get fourteen points

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Speaker 1: on the board. If the kN c C C Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: able to get fourteen points in those first two drives,

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Speaker 1: they are setting the tone. They're getting the game on

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Speaker 1: their terms, and that is the way they want to play.

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Speaker 1: Because I believe their defense has become one of the

449
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Speaker 1: better played from a hit defenses in football. They're doing

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Speaker 1: a really good job of creating turnovers. Steve speG new

451
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Speaker 1: Law has their defense playing well, and the Honey Badger

452
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Speaker 1: has done a great job of kind of settling everyone

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Speaker 1: down as a playmaker in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: Last basketball analogy will move on to the final game.

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Speaker 1: You you talk about the postseason being a tournament. Buck.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned, you know, having to play like Virginia. Um,

457
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Speaker 1: when we were talking a little bit earlier. This is

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Speaker 1: a Houston Texas team that just played Virginia. This is

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Speaker 1: un l V this week, brother, it is. It is

460
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Speaker 1: the running Rebels this week. A little different style than

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Speaker 1: what you saw against the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and in his money, DJ because in those games, like

463
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Speaker 1: sometimes it takes you while, you know, like we both

464
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Speaker 1: played high school basketball, played on the a U circuit,

465
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Speaker 1: and you go from playing one game to playing the other.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you play a slowdown team and so then

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Speaker 1: the next game you used to kind of walking the

468
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Speaker 1: ball up the court, but the other team is zipping

469
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Speaker 1: and it takes you a while to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder after the Buffalo Bill after Houston played

471
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills a week ago and it was a

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Speaker 1: very slow and methodical pace. It was one of those

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Speaker 1: games when you watch you like, man, I need some juice,

474
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Speaker 1: I need some coffee, I need something to kind of.

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Speaker 1: This is not their week, so they better come sauced

476
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Speaker 1: up early because if not there, we want to get

477
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Speaker 1: blown out of the building. And playing an Arrowhead. That

478
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Speaker 1: place is a little different, is really really loud, and

479
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Speaker 1: it's very advantageous for their defense when it comes to

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Speaker 1: getting after Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I think I takes some

481
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Speaker 1: chances defensively too. You're gonna give up some big plays

482
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Speaker 1: against his Chiefs team. You've got to make some big plays. Um,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens in that one. Seahawks Packer

484
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Speaker 1: Buck another one where I think the home team and

485
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Speaker 1: you gotta be a little bit nervous if you're the

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Speaker 1: home team here with this matchup. This is a this

487
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Speaker 1: is a Seahawks team with a veteran quarterback, a veteran

488
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Speaker 1: coach who, um, and that's not going to be this

489
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Speaker 1: environment will not be big for them at all. No,

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Speaker 1: it won't. It won't be big for them at all.

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Speaker 1: And and in fact, like I think the matchup kind

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Speaker 1: of plays in their favor because if you go back

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Speaker 1: and you really look at the Packer season, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to Packer fans to come at me because

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Speaker 1: I'm a gopack go guy. Look, I played there for

496
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Speaker 1: three years. I understand everything about Title Town. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I will say. This team is probably one of

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Speaker 1: the weaker three thirteen and three teams that I've seen.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that's overwhelming about any phase of their team.

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Speaker 1: Their offenses, Okay, their defense plays in spurts, and they

501
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Speaker 1: kind of live and die on the turnover. But I

502
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Speaker 1: don't know if they're a team that can dominate you

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Speaker 1: on either side of the ball. The scary thing about

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Speaker 1: playing the Seattle Seahawks they play a very slow and

505
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Speaker 1: deliberate and methodical style. They're gonna run the ball. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna try and run the ball at will to control it.

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Speaker 1: And when we've seen the Packers lose they couldn't control

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Speaker 1: the run game against Philadelphia early in the year. I

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Speaker 1: am sure that Brian Schottenheimer and Pete Carroll have looked

510
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Speaker 1: at that, and I'm sure that they're going to make

511
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Speaker 1: it a point to really try and run the ball,

512
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Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers haven't solved the issues that

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Speaker 1: plagued them when it came to the run. This could

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Speaker 1: be a very dangerous game that goes into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: And no one has played more one score games than

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. It is a very very scary game.

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Speaker 1: If I'm the Green Bay Packers, this is one where

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Speaker 1: they need to separate early. They're going to need advantage

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to show up in this game because they're

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Speaker 1: going to need some space between them and the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: to win this one. And I think you mentioned it

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Speaker 1: there with them running the football buck I'll take the

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Speaker 1: other side of it. If if the Seattle Seahawks failed

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Speaker 1: to establish the run, with the injuries along that offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you can see Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith t off

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have They're gonna have a tough time

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Speaker 1: blocking those guys. So that to me is the whole ballgame.

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Speaker 1: If Seattle can establish the run, they're in a good shot.

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Speaker 1: They're at least in a good shot to keep this thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, close as we come down the stretch. If

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Speaker 1: not win the football game, if they struggle to run

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Speaker 1: the football. Uh that's when I think you see the

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Speaker 1: Packers start playing downhill a little bit and they'll start

534
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Speaker 1: hunting up Russell Wilson and things can get away from him.

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Speaker 1: So that to me, on that side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: you flip it over to the other side with Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and company. Look, it's you know, Aaron Rodgers is

538
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Speaker 1: going to be the face of this team. It has

539
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Speaker 1: been the face of this team. But this is this

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Speaker 1: game is about Aaron Jones, getting him going in the

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Speaker 1: run game, getting him involved in the screen game. This

542
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Speaker 1: offense needs to roll through him if they can get

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Speaker 1: it through him. And it sounds weird, almost sacrilegious to

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Speaker 1: say it, but with Aaron Rodgers playing almost a complimentary

545
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Speaker 1: role to what they can do with the run game

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Speaker 1: and and just control passing game, um, I think that's

547
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Speaker 1: the formula for the Green Bay Packers. It sounds weird

548
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Speaker 1: coming off my tongue that, but I think this has

549
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Speaker 1: to be an Aaron Jones game. A two hallmarks too.

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00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Typically any good team, it comes down to commitment and trust. Um.

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Speaker 1: For Matt Lafleur, those two traits have to be on

552
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Speaker 1: display in this game. He has to be committed to

553
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Speaker 1: the run game, and he has to trust to run game.

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Speaker 1: This is a game that very very easily can become

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Speaker 1: an Aaron Rodgers game, and you don't necessarily want that

556
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Speaker 1: to happen. I would not like to see Aaron Rodgers

557
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Speaker 1: throw at forty to forty five times because to me,

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Speaker 1: it suggests that the Packers have gone away from what

559
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Speaker 1: has really made them a very very solid team, being

560
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Speaker 1: very balanced, being very um solid when it came to

561
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Speaker 1: playing complimentary or situational football. If this team veers away

562
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Speaker 1: from what has been really really good for them for

563
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Speaker 1: the most of the see the majority of the season

564
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Speaker 1: and becomes the old Packers where they're throwing it all

565
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Speaker 1: over the yard, they are playing into the Seattle Seahawks hands.

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Speaker 1: They have to be committed to the run. They got

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Speaker 1: trust the process and trust to plan. And then later

568
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: in the game and Rogers can take over, but they

569
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Speaker 1: can't deviate from how they've done it. And I think

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Speaker 1: this will be the biggest challenge for Matt lafleur first

571
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Speaker 1: real big game that he's coached in. Can't he stick

572
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Speaker 1: to the script or will he get anxious and kind

573
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Speaker 1: of deviate and fly out the cockpit. The other thing

574
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Speaker 1: you got to remember Pete Carroll. Uh, this La fleur

575
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Speaker 1: offense is one that he's he's very familiar with when

576
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Speaker 1: you look at what they see inside their division. So

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Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is something they should have a

578
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Speaker 1: good feel for it with Seattle's all I'm getting out there.

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Speaker 1: It should be a fun game, all right. The game,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Buck, These are great NFL matchups.

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Speaker 1: Playoff Football's outstanding. The game I'm most looking forward to

582
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Speaker 1: in the next week is the one taking place on

583
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Speaker 1: Monday night, and that's the College Football National Championship. Look, man,

584
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: fantastic game. Uh, fantastic game. And I think it has

585
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Speaker 1: everything that you look for. I think when we're looking

586
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: at these big games, um, not only from a scouting perspective,

587
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: but just as a fan, you want to see two

588
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Speaker 1: really good quarterbacks go at it. And I don't think

589
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: we could ask for a better matchup than Trevor Lawrence

590
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: going against Joe Burrow. Uh. Joe Burrow, the Hisman Trophy winner.

591
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has been the hottest quarterback in all of football.

592
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: What he's done this year is nothing short of remarkable.

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Speaker 1: The way that they have just carved up opposing defenses

594
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Speaker 1: all season is I mean, it's scary and with him

595
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Speaker 1: at the controls, look, I will like him because we

596
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: keep using these basketball analogies. He kind of reminds me

597
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: of old school Steve Nash. Steve Nash getting everybody into

598
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: the offense, getting everybody going while still being able to

599
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Speaker 1: get his shot. That is Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 1: the weapons that L. S U has on the outside.

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00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: He can get them going that way, but he also

602
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: can put him on himself and make some plays. Um.

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00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen a guy that is

604
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: better at executing and delivering in the R P O game.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a huge challenge for the Clemson Tigers.

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00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. I want to give everybody if

607
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Speaker 1: you're watching this at home and you're a fan of

608
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, you want to know what your NFL

609
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: team can be looking at. I'm gonna give you a

610
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: couple of things to to keep an eye on. Here.

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00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: A J. Terrell is a corner for Clemson, very athletic,

612
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: tall range corner. Um watch for him against Jordan Jefferson.

613
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: Both those guys potential first round picks. Uh top fifty

614
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: picks for sure when you look at their games, watch

615
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: that matchup, then you flip it over to the other side.

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00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins, wide receiver for Clemson, missed some of that

617
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State game. Real athletic, real range e um, great

618
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: catch radius. You're gonna want to see him against Christian Fulton.

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Speaker 1: Christian Fulton is a corner. We talked to him on

620
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Speaker 1: the podcast a couple of weeks ago. We're gonna see

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Speaker 1: him at the Senior Bowl. He's not the best corner

622
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: on their football team, is Stingley their young freshman. But

623
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see that matchup of two potential first round

624
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: picks there. And then the last one. I would keep

625
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: an eye on the two running backs, Travis Etienne, who's

626
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: got tremendous burst for Clemson. Bucks even mentioned more of

627
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: kind of a straight line guy, not a not a

628
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: ton of power, not a ton of wiggle, but just

629
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Speaker 1: tremendous juice. They use him a lot in the screen

630
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: game as well. And then the running back for l

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Speaker 1: s u Um, who I always I always want to

632
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: screw up his his name Buck because I pronounced it

633
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: wrong each and every every time. Edwards a layer. I

634
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: want to say, yeah, I always screw that up. But anyways,

635
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: he's he's phenomenal. Kind of a little bit of a

636
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: Ray Rice clone in terms of how he played. If

637
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: you remember watching Ray Rice before he got his issues,

638
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: very I got bowling ball, very sturdy, excellent route runner,

639
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: not not tremendous top speed, but just a really really

640
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: good football player. Yeah. Look, you can't go wrong with

641
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: having really good football players. And I think both teams

642
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: have a ton of good football players. I think, um,

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Speaker 1: when you think about Clemson, you you mentioned the guys

644
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Speaker 1: Tee Higgins, Uh, Travis at tenne Uh the quarterback. Uh,

645
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback is really uh taken over. The quarterback has

646
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: really become the go to person on this squad. And

647
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: I think his performance in the semifinal, uh, the way

648
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: that he bounced back to being I mean he was

649
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: battered and abused early in the game. The toughness that

650
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: he displayed, the winning pedigree, the winning qualities that he

651
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: just aid to me, that is that is what may

652
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: separate him from others and big game, big stage, who

653
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: handles it better. We saw l s U just kind

654
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: of roll over Oklahoma the National Championship game is a

655
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: little different. I do wonder if Lawrence has a bit

656
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: of an advantage because last year he played in this

657
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: game against Alabama, so maybe he kind of settles in

658
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: a little sooner than Joe Burrow. But regardless, I think

659
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a shootout that goes to the

660
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. All right, Buck, let's uh, let's pick a

661
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: winner here and uh and let's kind of wrap this up.

662
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: We've got Brian Stump is gonna join us here in

663
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: just a minute, so uh, I'll go first and then

664
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: I'll let you go. Because I I hear you talk

665
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: about that game last year against Alabama. I think that

666
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Alabama defense that a freshman and Trevor Lawrence shredded is

667
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: much better than this l s U defense. L s

668
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: who has got a good defense at Alabama defense was

669
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: much better. Now we've got a more experienced Lawrence uh

670
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: defense he's going up against. It's not as good. L

671
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Sho's gonna score their points. I think this will be

672
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: a shootout. But man, Trevor Lawrence, and like he lost

673
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: two games in his whole life, uh uh, this is

674
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: not going to be the third. I think Clemson ends

675
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: up winning this football game against l s U. Man,

676
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: it's funny because we're on the same page. Just crazy

677
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: that the number one team would be viewed as an underdog.

678
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: But Clemson's experience to me, really really matters. Also, um,

679
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I just remember watching the the end zone copy of

680
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: this game and just trying to put myself in justin

681
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: field shoes with all of the different stuff that Clemson

682
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: does on third down and Isaiah simm Is moving all around. Man,

683
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: if Clemson is able to do what no team has

684
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: been able to do to L s U, which is

685
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: jump on them and make them chase points. This defense

686
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: with all of the moving parts, it could be a problem.

687
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: And so I'm just going to bank on the experience

688
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: and Clemson's feel having been there, uh three out of

689
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: the last four times, like having having just been in

690
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: this big game. I think it matters. I just think

691
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: experience matters in these games and that might be the

692
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: deciding factor when it comes down to it in the

693
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. DJ Man, I'm really excited to bring on

694
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: one of my closest friends, the president of Student Sports

695
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: who runs football events such as Elite eleven and the

696
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Opening Brian Stump, the President of Student Sports. How you

697
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: doing Brian, I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for Thanks for

698
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: bringing me on. Hey man, look, we have to bring

699
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: you on because that Elite leven camp is one of

700
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: the best that we've seen when it comes to delivering quarterbacks.

701
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: We've seen Andrew Luck, Matthew Stafford, Jameis Weston, Teddy Bridgewater, uh,

702
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez and on and on kind of come through

703
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: the camp. What is it about Elite eleven and seeing

704
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: these young guys in high school that enables you to

705
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: have a feel for which guys are going to pop

706
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: at the next level. Yeah, I think it's it's a

707
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: really unique opportunity with the event. That's the way it's

708
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: structured and the amount of time we actually get to

709
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: spin with the quarterbacks, particularly the ones that come through

710
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the finals every summer. You know, we get four to

711
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: five days with those guys in the classroom, on the field,

712
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: uh see how they respond to coaching and competition. That

713
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: is really a unique environment and not a lot of

714
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: people get to evaluate them. And so I think for

715
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: those those group of kids that come through the finals

716
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: every year, um, we get we get a really interesting

717
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to spend time with those guys and get under

718
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: the hood to see what makes them tick, and you

719
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: come out of those um, you know settings, really having

720
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I think a pretty good feel if who's got a

721
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: good chance to continue on and have success at the

722
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: college level and potentially be on UM and really get

723
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: to know those guys on a personal level and see

724
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: what makes them ticks. So I think from that standpoint,

725
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a unique opportunity event that

726
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: we've created and a chance to really get to see,

727
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, some of these quarterbacks in a special setting,

728
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of them, like you said, do go

729
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: on to have some great success. Brian. When we're with

730
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: teams and you have your draft, there's you know times

731
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: where you get a a you know, first round it

732
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: and he's a little bit disappointing. But then man, you

733
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: you find out your seventh round pick or somebody just

734
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: brought in the last minute as a free agent ends

735
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: up really hitting. From all your years of doing this,

736
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: who was somebody that you were most surprised by in

737
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: a positive way, meaning that somebody that just kind of

738
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: barely barely got into the event, and then once they

739
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: got there, you saw them just really take off and

740
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: make tremendous strides during the process. UH, Jared Goffs a

741
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: pretty good example from a couple of years back. UM.

742
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Not not the biggest kid in terms of bills, especially

743
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: in high school. I think when we saw me was

744
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: about a hundred eighty pounds, but the arm talent really

745
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: stood out, and he was a guy that we were

746
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: probably higher on UM coming through spring evaluation periods and

747
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: in most colleges and any of the Internet recruiting services,

748
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: and brought him into the Little Eleven Finals that year

749
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: and he was really close to winning it. I think

750
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: he ended up being in the top three or four

751
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: UM as we went through a Little eleven Finals and

752
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: he was up there with the group that year that

753
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: included Christian Hackenburgh and Max Brown and UM Josh Dobbs

754
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: and some other guys that have gone on and and

755
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: played at a high level. But he was a guy

756
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: that I think was was not definitely not a nationally

757
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: known name and really came through the process on the

758
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: back end UM deeming a lot of confidence and also

759
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: being able to display his abilities in a way that

760
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people hadn't seen UM. And I think

761
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: we also see guys that come through and they're they're

762
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: not the five star guys that could really flash with

763
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: physical traits, but you see the makeup and the character

764
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: and the intangibles that are gonna allow him to have

765
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: a great career. And I'll go way back to a

766
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: guy like Chase Daniel, who you know, maybe a six

767
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: ft tall. He'll he'll probably fight you that he is,

768
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: but he was that same guy in high school that

769
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: we see now has gone on to really carve out

770
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: a successful career as a as a backup and spot

771
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: starter quarterback. But he's a guy that's going to play

772
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL until he's thirty five, thirty six years

773
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: old and gone to a successful career in broadcasting or

774
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: whatever else he wants to do, and all those traits

775
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: that have allowed him to succeed in that role. Uh

776
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: really stood out through the Elite leven process and he

777
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: was a guy that we we all loved the staff

778
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: when he came through and has gone on to great

779
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: success despite some you know, physical limitations. You know, it's funny, Brian,

780
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: because I bet back in the day it was probably

781
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: a little easier when the quarterbacks were more traditional. There

782
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: are pocket passes. You can set up things that enable

783
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: you to look at them in terms of reading coverage

784
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: and doing those things. We're now we're seeing a wave

785
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks in the National Football League that are these

786
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: dual threat guys, guys that can make plays with their legs.

787
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and Pat Mahomes are a little different because

788
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: they were classic throwers. But Lamar Jackson, how are you

789
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: now going to be able to evaluate some of these

790
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: dual threat quarterbacks that come from these places where they're

791
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: the primary ball carry you? How does that change the

792
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: quarterback evaluation process now that we're not only seeing these

793
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: guys have success in college, but now they're having success

794
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: in the pros. I think a lot of it. One,

795
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: we want to definitely lean back on the tape. There's

796
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: only so much we can do in a camp setting,

797
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: right to stimulate um what guys can do athletically and

798
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: how it impacts the game and how it changes the

799
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: defense with the coverages you're going to see. So we

800
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: definitely always want to go back to the tape. And

801
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: that's that's that thing in regards Tony evaluation, you know,

802
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: but definitely with with the guys that are more dual

803
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: threat and and still probably learning his pastors. And then

804
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: also we want to. We want to really have conversations

805
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: with him when we're in the person setting and see

806
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: how they respond to coaching and see kind of what

807
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: concepts might be new to them and how quickly they

808
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: can pick it up. Because there's a lot of guys

809
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: just because they haven't done it yet, it doesn't mean

810
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: they can. And I think Lamar is a great example

811
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: of that. You know, people question him coming through the

812
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: process the entire way, and um, he's been able to

813
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: pick stuff up like a sponge and everybody now raised

814
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: about his football like you, and I think if there

815
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: are more conversations that people had with him as he

816
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: came through the process, um, people probably would have been

817
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: able to pick up on stuff like that sooner. Well,

818
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: when you go to an event like the Opening, it's

819
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: not just quarterbacks up there. You see all the skill

820
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: guys as well. And I remember visiting up there at

821
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: that event. Maybe guys had to have been three or

822
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: four years ago now where we were talking about some

823
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: of these other positional players. I remember watching Xavier Thomas,

824
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: who's with Clemson now as an edge rusher who's had

825
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: a nice young career there for the Tigers, but from

826
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: from a non quarterback. Just maybe two or three guys

827
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: that have really kind of stood out for you or

828
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: for the years of doing these events as uh as

829
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: guys you earmarked really early on and said, well, well,

830
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a big time Sunday player. Yeah,

831
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: I think we we look back and a couple of

832
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: safeties that are really impacting the game. Um that made

833
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: a mark through the opening, not just on the field

834
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: but off the field. Two guys that just jumped out

835
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: from me, or Jamal Adams and Derwin James. UM, guys

836
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: that were when they were on the field there the

837
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: alpha males. They're the leaders of their respective you know,

838
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: seven on seven teams we put them on and that

839
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But they were also just the pied

840
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: piper of it. Might have been fifty guys that might

841
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: have been seventy guys. Everybody wanted to be around those dudes.

842
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: They were the life of the party. But when it

843
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: was time to work and it was time to learn,

844
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: and it was time to play the sports, they were

845
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: locked in. So those guys had that It's a really

846
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: unique trade and quality. Um. Some guys want to be

847
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, all fun and goofy all the time when

848
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: they're around a bunch of other kids that age and

849
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: and they can't really lock it back in. But those

850
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: guys had that unique ability to be both leaders on

851
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: and off the field, and and and guys that everybody

852
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: else really rallied around. And you can see that their playmakers.

853
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: Obviously on the field, they had physical traits that pop,

854
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: but their leadership qualities, um, and their drives to be

855
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: great and compete. You know, anytime the balls I rolled

856
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: out there, those two guys were first in the line

857
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: and ready to soak up reps and get better from

858
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: the coaches Mike Bucky. So, uh, those are two guys

859
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: that I think we identified early on, and you could

860
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: you could just tell um they came back as college

861
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: counselors as well, that they were going to be at

862
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: the front of the line as it relates to you know,

863
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: those football talents, but also just that character and ability

864
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: to take every advantage that was put in front of them.

865
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: You know, Brian, as much as I love talking about

866
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: the position players, everyone wants to know about the quarterbacks.

867
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: And you're in a unique position because the three top quarterbacks, um,

868
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: well I won't even say three in this class, but

869
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the quarterbacks, Uh, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow

870
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: and twa UM with Joe Burrow. And two what did

871
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: you see from those two guys, because there will be

872
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: in the draft class. What do you see from those

873
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: guys early on in the camp scene? Uh? And how

874
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: have you seen their games grow respectfully as collegiance? Sure?

875
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Um too. I think you know, some people might be

876
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: familiar a little bit more with with his story coming

877
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: through our events that it did get a little bit

878
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: of attention, especially when he he popped his first opportunity

879
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: there in the in the college football Championship game a

880
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: couple of years back. But Uh, he was a guy

881
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: through a process that had you know, the first time

882
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: we saw him, you could identify right away just his

883
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: his arm, talent and raw ability was was really top tier. UM.

884
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: And he was challenged by the staffsre and in particular

885
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: doper A head coach, to really refined his technique and

886
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: his mechanics and disciplined his jobs and things of that nature.

887
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: When we saw him from the regional coming back to

888
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: the finals. Um, he was not a guy that was

889
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: pre identified as the top patter in the class. He

890
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: was from Hawaii, not a lot of people had really

891
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: seen him get some good things on film and was

892
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: a multiple year starter. But as he came through and

893
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: spend a couple of months with him from a regional

894
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: two finals and then on up to the opening, Um,

895
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: he got better every time we saw him, and and

896
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: also was you know, able to display great later leadership qualities.

897
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: M he got in room with kids at the opening,

898
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, from South Florida and from Mississippi and from

899
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Texas and was able to gather those guys and they

900
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: all rallied around him. So UM, we saw not only

901
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: his physical talent come out, but also tremendous leadership qualities

902
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: that you know I have gone on and served him

903
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: very well in his career at Alabama, you know, allows

904
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: him to bring together another diverse locker room and and

905
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: be able to compete at a high level and win

906
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: championships and everything he's done at Alabama. So UM, he

907
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: rose through our process certainly and ended up being a

908
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: retal levit m VP for his year. And um was

909
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: was a great talent. I think by the time he

910
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: came through his recruiting cycle that that a lot of

911
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: people identified that at the end of the years as

912
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: potentially the top pastor in that class. UM. Joe Burrow

913
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: definitely a different story. UM. Joe was a small school kid,

914
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: I think Division three UM in Ohio. UM, we have

915
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: a couple of undersized guy on our staff, as you know,

916
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Bucky with Joey Robertson and Yogi raw To Uh. Kind

917
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: of when you watch tape like that and you say,

918
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, he might have some talent, but he also

919
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: plays against them, Joey's and Yogi, So you always wondered

920
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: sometimes how that's h um. But Joe did a great

921
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: job in high school. He put up big numbers. She

922
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: was Mr Football, committed to a house state a little

923
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: later in the process. But when we saw him at

924
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: a regional camp, I think some of the physical traits

925
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: that we might have wandered about watching on tape, they

926
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: just didn't they didn't pop when we saw, you know,

927
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: and he wasn't at a regional that was particularly loaded. UM.

928
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing, when when you look

929
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: back on his evaluation, there are certainly some things that

930
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: we probably missed and identifying that usually end up being

931
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: good indicators with a multi sports stand out UH that

932
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: you coach his son, which which usually can be a benefit,

933
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: as you guys know. Um, and then just I think

934
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: he ended up in the right situation right where he

935
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: didn't have to play right away. He was able to

936
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: physically mature. He was a multi spurt guy, so he

937
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: wasn't out throwing every day and lifting weights. And um,

938
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: he also I think was able to get a lot

939
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: better through competition, you know, being in the room with J. C. Barrett,

940
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: being in the room with Dwayne Haskins and the other

941
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: guys at Ohio State and really battling with those guys,

942
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: pushing those guys that it relates to compete in for

943
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: starting jobs. And it didn't end up working out for

944
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: him at the House State, but he was able to

945
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: get a lot better and physically mature. And I think

946
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: he also grew into himself little bit where some of

947
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: the moxie you know and in personality we see now,

948
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing that at Ton, especially in a

949
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: regional setting where we get to be around guys and

950
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: rapple him and talk with him a little bit. So

951
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I think from his standpoint, um, he got in a

952
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: good station situation and not every guy's best to play

953
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: right away, but um, the way it worked out for

954
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: him and ended up now at LSU. I don't think

955
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: it could have worked out any better for Joe Burrow.

956
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you one question, Brian, and then this

957
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: is what I've been dying to ask you. I've been

958
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: patient because I didn't want to ask it early on.

959
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: But how is Bucky rigging these teams? At the seven

960
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: on seven events? Asked him every year would you talk?

961
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: Would you have on your team? Why? Jerry Judy I

962
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: had to uh, I had like his team is back

963
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: every year. How do you go about setting these teams up?

964
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: And what is Bucky given you on the side to

965
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: give me a team so much better than everybody else

966
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: he has to go up against. That's a great question. Now,

967
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: I do remember one year since he did win it.

968
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: I think when guys win it, we will go back

969
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: to him the next and be like, hey, you know

970
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: with their guy ar Tee, you like some of the regionals,

971
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: you might want to get on your team and that

972
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But yeah, he's definitely had some some talent.

973
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: You know. I think there were some guys who probably

974
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: really liked working with and then there's some other guys

975
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: that were probably you know, it's not all, it's not

976
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: all uh, you know, rosen and unicorns and that sort

977
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: of stuff sometimes when when you get with some of

978
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: those guys. But you know, Ryan Harsh another guy that's

979
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: had a lot of success lately coaching guys at the

980
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: Opening and Thinking and Buff. You've had some some good

981
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: battles because Ryan had a good run of winning up

982
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: there too. But no, there's definitely no favoritism. We love

983
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: all our coaches, you know, right, it's funny a lasting

984
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Brian for me. Trevor Lawrence, Um, we're talking about guys

985
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: who have kind of pigged him as kind of like

986
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: a prodigy, being a young quarterback that seems destined to

987
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe be the number one quarterback in the one class

988
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: if he elects to come out. What did you see

989
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence very early in the process. Are you

990
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: surprised by success at the collegiate level? No, not not

991
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: surprised at all. Um, Trevor was definitely an outlier in

992
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: terms of his size and stature. And you know that

993
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: the hair has also always been identified when you go

994
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: to quarterback camps that are full with you know, kids

995
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: that are six ft to six two and you know,

996
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: wearing black shorts and things like that, and you got

997
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: the six six kids with long hair, so he he

998
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: always physically stood out, but he definitely had the game

999
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: to back it up. And you know, I think is

1000
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: the thing that's really unique about him outside of the talent,

1001
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: is just he seems like he's done everything right. Like

1002
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: do you ever remember him getting in any social media

1003
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: snapos or you know, any issues with teammates or his

1004
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: school and that sort of stuff. So, I mean, he's

1005
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: a testament. He had a great coach there at Partisanal

1006
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: High School with him in Georgia. Joey King is now

1007
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: at South Florida with Jeff Scott, and his parents did

1008
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: a great job with him. So I mean, the talent

1009
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: has been there. Um, he definitely as he came through

1010
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: with us at the opening. I would say he did

1011
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: have a little bit of struggle that at the finals,

1012
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: but that was just adjustment with to the speed of

1013
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: the game. Uh. But there was no flinch in him

1014
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: when he did that. And he was up every night

1015
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: working and you know, texting our coaches at twelve thirty

1016
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: in the morning about players that might work and things

1017
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: that you just don't see that often. So the talent

1018
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: was there. His makeup is outstanding. Um And like I said,

1019
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he just seems to make great

1020
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: choices over and over again. So there's nothing he can't

1021
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: do with the football in his hands. And now you

1022
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: see him at the running element to the game too,

1023
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: which he didn't have to do a ton in high school. Um.

1024
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: So he's a really complete player. And I just love

1025
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: his makeup in terms of the choices that he makes

1026
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: both you know, on off the field and how he's

1027
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of handled everything that's come to him at such

1028
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: a young age. That's great stuff, Brian. Last last thing again,

1029
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: just real, I'll give you one more chance here like

1030
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: courtside tickets to Carolina basketball. Nothing like what I mean,

1031
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: He's given you nothing, nothing, I mean. And this is

1032
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: the first you know podcast appearance too, So I mean,

1033
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: I gotta work back. But he might owe me some stuff, right.

1034
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, we gotta we gotta work. We

1035
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: gotta work. He does. We got I don't have many

1036
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, Granada years. Yeah, I mean, I mean, we're

1037
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna lean on your as we go into this

1038
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: thing to see if we can leverage some of that.

1039
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: Ale Leven quarterback uh, success into some personal Granada. He'll

1040
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: success like so I appreciate it. Brian. It's it's been

1041
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: so great to have you on to give your insight

1042
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: on all these players, particularly the quarterbacks. We definitely will

1043
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: be calling you back because as a draft heats up,

1044
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: we definitely gonna want to dig a little deeper into

1045
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and into draft. Appreciate it anytime, Thanks, Brian Box.

1046
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: It is great to catch up with Brian. Uh, great

1047
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: insight there on a lot of those players that we've

1048
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: seen come through and and guys that are still in

1049
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: college right now, including uh Trevor Lawrence. What to expect

1050
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: for him from him in a big stage, something he's

1051
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: been very comfortable with throughout his career in high school

1052
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: and in college. But a great resource. I'm sure we'll

1053
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: catch up with him again. Uh down the road. We

1054
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: do have some we do have some questions I want

1055
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: to get to in just a minute, Buck, because some

1056
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: people have left us some some good questions there on

1057
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Apple it owns or Apple podcasts. I should say, um,

1058
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: so we'll get to those just one second. But I

1059
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: do want to promote that top twenty five Rookie article

1060
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: and video articles out the videos coming out, UM, where

1061
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: I ranked the top twenty five rookies from the season.

1062
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: I'll tease my list here. I'll tease my list because

1063
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: at mine, I had Bosa Nick Bosa number one on

1064
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: the list and I had Josh Jacobs uh number two

1065
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: on the list. So those would be my offensive and

1066
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: defensive players here. I understand Jacobs miss some time at

1067
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: the end of the year, but he carried that Raiders

1068
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: team almost on the brink of the postseason. So that's

1069
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: where I give him the nod, you know, And I

1070
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: think both of those guys are are worthy of being

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00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: in the conversation. I'm a flip the offensive rookie the year,

1072
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: and I'm saying a J. Brown And what a J.

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00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: Brown was able to do for Sinsei Titans. Uh, he

1074
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: quickly emerged as a number one receiver and for him

1075
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: to kind of do it coming out of the second

1076
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: round is very, very reminiscent of what Michael Thomas has

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00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: been able to do with the New Orleans Saints. UM.

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00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about a guy who has we

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00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: knew he had great hand eye coordination, terrific hands, but

1080
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: the speed, the explosivest, the big play of Billy. I

1081
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: don't know if I necessarily saw that when I watched

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00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: him on tape at Old Miss. He has been a

1083
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise for the Tennessee Titans, and then I think

1084
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: defensively looked. Nick Boss certainly has been the guy. But

1085
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I have to talk about Josh Allen and what Josh

1086
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: Allen has been able to do for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: He has quietly put together a nice season for the Jaguars.

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00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: He's been everything that we thought he would be coming

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00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky, coming off the edge. We love the versatility,

1090
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: but really the past rush prowess that he has displayed

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00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Um, if you think about building a defense man,

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00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: he is a what I call a foundational piece to

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00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: rebuilding their defense. Terrific player who played really, really well

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00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: as a first time starter, no doubt. Um he ended up.

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00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: When I looked at my list here going back through it, well,

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00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: I won't give it away. Well, you can go check

1097
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: out the video and see the rest of it there.

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00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: Uh Nabil, how about some questions? I know some people

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00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: loving some questions there on Apple Podcast. What do you

1100
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: got fire away? Our first one? If Kirk Cousins doesn't

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00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: work out and the Vikings draft a QB. Would Jake

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00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: From be a good fit? What do you think? I

1103
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: just think he's a cheaper version of Kirk Cousins. He

1104
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: would just be an inexpensive, less experienced version of Kirk Cousins.

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00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins. Yeah, I don't think. I don't

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00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: think he's an other sound like he's He's a guy

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00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: who can play connecting dots. But I think for Jake

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00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: From everything around him will have to be right for

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00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: him to succeed as a pro. Doesn't mean that he

1110
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: can't be a starting quarterback, but I just think you

1111
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: have to understand the challenges that you may have with

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00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: him as your starting quarterback. I think Kirk Cousin has

1113
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: outplayed his draft status. I think he's been a solid starter. Yes,

1114
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: he has to have certain things around him for him

1115
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: to be right, but we've seen in the right system,

1116
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: with the right playmakers, he can play at a high level.

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00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: This year, to me, was one of his best years

1118
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: in the league in terms of how he played while

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00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: also operating within a system. Yeah, I don't think Jake

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Speaker 1: From could necessarily give the Vikings what they want if

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00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: they moved on from Kirk Cousins, which I don't expect

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00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: him to do him. Let me give you a team

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00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: for Jake From how about the Atlanta Falcons. Perfect to

1124
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: get somebody that can learn underneath Matt Ryan. He's obviously

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00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: the location would be pretty easy sell um play your

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00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: games indoors um in that division. I think I just

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00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: think his lack of top top shelf arm strength wouldn't

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00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: be as big of an issue in that division, especially

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00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: playing all your home games indoors. There no Minnesota plays

1130
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: indoors as well, but once they go on the road

1131
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: near in Chicago, you're in Green Bay. I don't know

1132
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: that that's necessarily a great fit for Jake from Yeah,

1133
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: because he's a golfer. He needs to play in an

1134
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: ideal situations so the ball can fly farther. He's he's

1135
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: kind of like me, like did you I don't know

1136
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: if if you never play golf with me, but I

1137
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: am a guy that typically plays with the ladies ball

1138
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: because I need the ball to fly farther. I think

1139
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Jake From kind of needs those advantages. He needs weather

1140
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: and perfect and ideal conditions for him to be able

1141
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: to utilize the entire field. Plus you have to put

1142
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: weapons around him, Julio Jones, Calvin Realley, you alluded to

1143
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta would be a nice situation. I don't know if

1144
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: he could play in a cold weather environment. All right,

1145
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: what's the next one of Bill? Let's go two more.

1146
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: The Packers may have the talent advantage on the Seahawks,

1147
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: but how much of the Pete Carroll versus Matt Lafleur

1148
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: matchup can they exploit? Well, I think that's a big deal.

1149
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: I think experience does matter. We're talking about coaches in

1150
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: the postseason buck and I think Pete Carroll, we mentioned

1151
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: it earlier on in the show, about his familiarity with

1152
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: this offense, seeing at a bunch inside the division over

1153
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: the years, I think that does I think that is

1154
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: an advantage there for Pete Carroll. Yeah. I think experience matters,

1155
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: and the experience that they don't know have from the

1156
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: coaching staff. But also with Russell Wilson. Uh, this is

1157
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: a huge game for the Green Bay Packers because I

1158
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: think this is a game where they have to show

1159
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: that they're better off without Mike McCarthy because now they're

1160
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: in their postseason tournament. Coaching really really matters. We saw

1161
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: that in the first round of the playoffs, in the

1162
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: wild card round, coaching, the adjustments, being able to come

1163
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: up with game plans that may be a little different

1164
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: than what you've done throughout the year. This is a

1165
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: huge advantage. And look, I would say the coaching and

1166
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: all of this stuff kind of goes into Seahawks favor.

1167
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: So this is a game with Matt Lafleur and even

1168
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers may have to help Matt Lafloor. They have

1169
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: to kind of even up some of those disadvantages. If

1170
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, Buck to correct me if I'm wrong

1171
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: on this one. But I was with Mike Petton with Baltimore,

1172
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: Mike Patton with the Jets at the same time Schottenheimer

1173
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: was with the Jets, right, Wasn't that We'll see DC

1174
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: if that there was familiarity there, Yeah, that was that

1175
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: was the combination. Those were the coordinators doing Rex's time

1176
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: with the Jets, and look it it will certainly help

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00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: Mike Petton understand the mentality of where Brian Schottenheimer wants

1178
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: to do. Some of those things have necessarily have changed

1179
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: going to Seattle with Pete Carroll kind of insisting on

1180
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: the game being played a certain way. But yeah, Mike

1181
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: Patton's familiarity with that offense and maybe Schottenheimer's familiarity with

1182
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Petton's defense. It should be a little chess master to

1183
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: a chess match to watch. So we'll see how it

1184
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: plays how it plays out, all right? One more in

1185
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: the bill? What he got? Why would or will the

1186
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: Lions pass on to a go ahead? Buck? You know

1187
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: like this, this is a tricky one for me, and

1188
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: it'll be tough until we get the evaluation. There are

1189
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: a couple of things that are played that the Detroit

1190
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: Lions have to consider. One, they have to understand what

1191
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: the long term pregnosis of Matthew Stafford's back injury is.

1192
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: What does that look like? How much uh pain is

1193
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: he going to be willing to endure as he gets older?

1194
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: What is the chances? What are the chances of that

1195
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: injury reoccurring? Then when it comes to toa is okay,

1196
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: how significant is this injury? What are the percentages of

1197
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: a recurrence? Uh? Can we trust that he's going to

1198
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: be healthy when throughout his collegiate career he's had to

1199
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: deal with a number of injuries. Uh, this is a

1200
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: really really tough one. For the Detroit Lions, and I

1201
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: think it won't be decided until they get a little

1202
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: deeper in the process after the draft, after workhouse to

1203
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: they really can determine who too he is and where

1204
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: he can be when we get to the regular season.

1205
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: In terms of just his health and his availability. Well,

1206
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I think to of would give you financial flexibility, uh

1207
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: for the next five years. That would be one thing

1208
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: that would that would make sense there. Um, Matthew Stafford

1209
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: could fetch you tremendous, tremendous amount in a trade thirty

1210
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: one years old. I know he's had the injury buck,

1211
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: but man, if healthy, uh, you get him healthy, you're

1212
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: talking about another six premier years you could get at

1213
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: the position. Uh. And that is a hefty price you

1214
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: would have to pay for somebody like Matthew Stafford. So again,

1215
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: we talked about it on the podcast UH this week

1216
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: earlier this week about that decision that they'll have to make.

1217
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: And I think even if they aren't interested in in

1218
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: uh selecting to Ah, I think you at least put

1219
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: off that you would consider it. UH. Put that out there.

1220
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: I should say that you would consider it, because it's

1221
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: just going to continue to drive up the price for

1222
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: that pick for those teams picking five, six, and seven

1223
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: that could potentially come up to take him. So I'll

1224
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the lines do as we

1225
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: it towards April. Anything else you want to add here,

1226
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: but before we get out of here, No man, it

1227
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: was a loaded, uh loaded podcast, a lot of good information,

1228
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: a lot of great discussion, and really loved having Brian

1229
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: stuff onto to uh talk about the quarterbacks. I think

1230
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: anytime we get a chance to gain more insight on

1231
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks that are coming down to pipeline, guys that

1232
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: have gone be in the draft, guys that are gonna

1233
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: play on the big stage on Monday Night, I think

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00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: it's always fascinating. We do appreciate him taking some time

1235
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: to join us. Thanks again though for the questions on

1236
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: Apple Podcast. If you have a question for us, leave

1237
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: us a review, give us a little rating there and

1238
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: uh and drop a question. We'll answer it. Trying one week,

1239
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: one day a week we try and knock out some

1240
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: of these questions. So appreciate that feedback. That's gonna do

1241
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: it for us today. I want to thank no Bill

1242
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: for all his hard work putting this show together. We're

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: out of here. We'll see you next time. Right here on,

1244
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Speaker 1: move the sticks to a moment ut