1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Without Tiger in the field. And it's weird that we've 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: been talking golf all week in Tiger's name barely has 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: come up. Uh without Tiger in the field. Justin Thomas's 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Tigers target. Uh, he's got that, you know, get out 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: of my way quality. I'm all about the golf. There 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: really is no distracting interest in any love sports other 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: than golf, like like Tiger does. But he really is 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: about the work on the range, the work on the course. Uh, 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: and the score of the score of the score. And 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a I think that's a neat quality 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: in Justin Thomas. And uh, you know, I think if 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: you've got a direct line to Tiger Woods, I don't 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: see how that could be anything other than helpful. Put 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: another log on the fire nobody hears get the time. Hello, 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: This is Alan Schipnuk back for another Fire Drill podcast, 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: joined by Michael Bamberger Ryan French. It is the eve 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: of the United States Open gens. There's been a lot 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of build up. Um, finally here, I 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: guess let's start with what has been your takeaway from 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: the practice rounds at the country club. The way the 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: course is playing, but more than that, just the ambiance, 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: the feeling in the air, the Boston crowds, Like, tell 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: people what it feels like to be on the grounds here. Yeah, 24 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's my first major, my first open, so 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: obviously I just walk around like enjoying all of it. 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: So there's that. Um, And obviously I know how hard 27 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: the the u S Open is and set up what 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: it's it's great to see it in person and practice rounds. 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, we see bad shots here and there as 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: the U S Open goes on, but to watch guys 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: in the practice round true struggle is is really cool. Um. 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: The crowds have been kind of I mean, obviously it's 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday whatever, but the crowds have been somewhat disappointing. 34 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: But I assume they'll drink more and enjoy more. And 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: heckle Moore, Phil got a very nice reception yesterday. The 36 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: shambo got you know, some nice applause. I was like, jeez, 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: come on, Boston, let's get at it. But the imminence 38 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: have been great. The course it looks amazing and impossibly hard. Um. 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the the whole ropes thing and structure thing 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: and rules following thing is kind of disappointing. I'm at 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: events when there is no such things and no fans, 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: so that's obviously a bummer. But it's amazing. It really 43 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: is a very very cool. Have you seen any player 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: get the red ass over a bad shot in practice? 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: I haven't, but I've definitely seen some people like laugh. 46 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: You know, Um, I followed a couple of groups the 47 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: other day and uh, I think Monday, and uh, Andrew 48 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Putnam hit a whiff and then a shank out of 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: the rough at a chip, and you know, just chuckled 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: and went and picked up his ball. So, I mean, 51 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: these guys have been through it a lot, so there's 52 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: no there's no point in being mad at him on 53 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: a Monday afternoon. Is that the older Putnam or the 54 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: younger Putnam? That is the younger and the only current 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: playing Putnam? Oh, the other guys playing? Michael is not 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: he was. He was my roommate when you're well just 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: a few years ago, Channica Hills. Wow, Michael Bamberger, I 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: feel so badly. We have to have a story about 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: the cryptocurrency taxi ride one day. Anyway, go on, No, 60 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: the more you hang out with Bamberger, he'll he'll just 61 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: bust out surprising things at the all time classic is 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: we're talking and I knew he had just been vacationing, 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: like in Martha's video. I said, how was it? He said, Oh, 64 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: it was delightful. You know, it's just it's such a 65 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: nice place, such a great time. I said, do you guys, 66 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: are you gonna you know, fancy parties. I I know 67 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: it's a big thing. He's like, yeah, I went to 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: one good one. I said, yeah, you know, actually I 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: saw a Bomba was there at the same time. Did 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: you have any any hint of his presence? And Michael's like, yeah, yeah, 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: yeah I did. And um and then as there was 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: any cool people at your party? And He's like, well, 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: not really, I mean I guess Obama was there. He said, 74 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah. And as I said, did you have any 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: actions like yeah, yeah, I even talked about golf like 76 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: you would have never have mentioned it. Yeah, like hold 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: it out of it, Like whereas most of us I 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: would have taken out a full page ad in my 79 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: hometown news paper. I went to a party with Barack 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Obama and talked to him like I would have been 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: a hundred and seven tweets into my interaction with Barack Obama. 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: But I did tweet out today, good morning America. You 83 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: you you whiffed on ship knock? How dare you? I mean, 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, as you know, Alan, but the 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: forty seven mile walk that we made yesterday was just 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: I just told myself over and over again to shut 87 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: up and just listen to Michael stories, anything from ja 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: K to cryptocurrency to yeah house that I described friends 89 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: as we met winning the US Open in nighteen, and 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: I was only off by five years. I later learned 91 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: cult probably picked up on that, But you got to 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: the essence of the story. Yeah, that's what matters. Um, Michael, 93 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: You've been to a lot of opens, but you know 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: it's been whatever, it's been decades since we were at 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: this particular Um, does this one feel any different to 96 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: you now that you've been on You know, I've talked 97 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: to Curtis a lot about eighty eight, and then Curtis's 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: brother said to me, Uh, were you there? Were you 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: there in a eight? And I wasn't, And it's like 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: that was a bad US Open to miss? That was Uh, 101 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: that would have been a great US Open. The only 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: time I've been to the Country Club is when you 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and I were there together. I don't think you've been 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: there since then. In uh In, I love reading the 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Boston Globe when I'm here. It's just like one of 106 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: my hobbies. And uh and they made a reference to 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the rocky outcroppings. I hope I have this word correct. 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Maybe Colt can can google it while I'm saying it. 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Those rocky outcrop things that you see at the country 110 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: anybody know what they're called? That's correct putting Stone? Who knew? 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: But they're so beautiful and the golf course is so 112 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: beautiful and as an and I know it the other day, 113 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: which you have Vogilly that yellow clubhouse. You know, it's 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: like it's like the light at the end of Gatsby's dock. 115 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's just it triggers a lot for me. 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: And uh I love being a colt. Or you're googling? 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: Can you google Getsby? So I know what the hell 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: that references? Do? Nobody know? You've got a PhD. And 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys, because you guys 120 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: have done this a billion times. This is a serious question. 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Like I assume some of this becomes routine, right, But 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: there's so much going on in golf right now that 123 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: has never happened in your time covering golf. Does it 124 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: feel different? Does it feel polarizing? Doesn't I mean any 125 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: of like what it What does it feel like with 126 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: all the what's going on in golf? Well, definitely this 127 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: the Live Saudi PGA Tour, Phil that that's captured the 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: non golf audience and even the non sports like um 129 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: for just Time magazine wants to talk to about all 130 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: this stuff like they today, I want to do an 131 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: interview with them. They they don't really wade into these 132 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: waters very often. And I saw Dave's are in you know, 133 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: he's who's kind of covers the intersection of sports and 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: culture and race and those issues, like I haven't read it. 135 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I just saw on Twitter just now that he has 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: a big think piece about all this stuff. So it's 137 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: definitely a big deal. And there's been you know, there's 138 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: been the strain of of our of our our readers 139 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: or the people interact with on on social media state, 140 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, enough questions about live like let's focus on 141 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the U s Open. I think that will happen starting 142 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow with the first round. But this is a huge story. 143 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean It's one of the biggest story in sports 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: right now. Like you can't deny of it. Um, there's 145 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening here. So it does. It's been 146 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: floating around for a long time. But it's like everything 147 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: collided here. Coming coming out of London. Uh feels re 148 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: emergent Bryson and announcing you know, the guy just won 149 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: the US Open a couple of years ago. Like all 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it just feels like this story is exploded. 151 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, that you know, we've been through this before 152 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: with you know, say the Augusta National Membership controversy and 153 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: that that became a fixation of the New York Times 154 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: and that definitely crossed over to the mainstream media. And 155 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: before that with Shoal Creek. Um, and there's you know, 156 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: golf has been at the center of some of these storms, 157 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: but not not really in the social media age. And um, 158 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, you know with Joe Biden is about to 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: go over there, and uh, it's it's Saudi Arabia's influence 160 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: has never been greater and people have never been so 161 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: tuned into it. And so you have sports, you have geopolitics, 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: you have oil, you have money, you have greed, you 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: have vengeance, and you have big teams here. So this 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: this feels like like a monumental story. And uh, I 165 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to overstattle the US Open, but 166 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: it's definitely defined the early part of the week. That 167 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: is really well said down and uh, I agree with 168 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: everywhere that that everywhere that you just said. And the 169 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: only thing I would add to it. What's very different 170 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: about this controversy and other things that have come over 171 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: the years, whether it's been Right's comment about quote lesbians 172 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: in the in the in the women's game, or you know, 173 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: women just happens to be another one's thing, but no 174 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: women had no, no, uh, members of color at different clubs. 175 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: This one we know is being discussed by the players 176 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: at every turn. So what we're doing is really reflecting 177 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the player's own interest in it. Now. Yes, once the 178 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: bell goes off in that ball sitting there and you're 179 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: trying to get near the whole, that's all different. But 180 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the PGA tour as we know it is being redefined 181 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: now and there's no way that can't be foremost on 182 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: virtually every player's mind. Maybe Ryan, maybe not so much. 183 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: Some of the guys that that that you deal with. 184 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: But for a hundred other guys who are in the 185 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: field this week, most definitely. Yeah, But even even even 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: the dreamers are going to be touched by this. I 187 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: mean on some level, if you have four d PGA 188 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Tour members who all of a sudden get excommunicated and 189 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: there may be some more playing opportunities that will open 190 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: up that you know, the Saudi money, they they're they're 191 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: cleverly gonna start targeting the lower levels of golf like 192 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna touch you know, even the people in Ryan's 193 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: golfing life. I think that's why it's such a big story. 194 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: A lot of different facets of the game are are 195 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: being affected, even though right now that the focus is 196 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: just on the top players and we you and I 197 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: talked about this the other day with with with Jeff 198 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: and and and matt Um. I think there is an 199 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: element of I'm going to raise the flag for my tour. 200 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: If you're a PGA Tour player, especially uh competing in 201 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: this US Open. Now, I don't think I can make 202 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: you try harder, but I think it can just raise 203 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: becausetead of trying as hard as you can. But I 204 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: think it just sort of raises the stakes to some 205 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: degree and in ways that maybe you can't even articulate. 206 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I think that does factor into into the week. Do 207 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: you have Do you guys have a sense of that 208 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: whether you agree with that or not, fairway on. Yeah, well, 209 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: so that was the thing I want to do on 210 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: this Podcastle's talk about some of some of the players. 211 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: And you know, the defending champ, John Ram, the guy 212 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: who just won the last major championship, Justin Thomas, the 213 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: hottest player in the game coming off that that very 214 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: emotional win in Canada, Roy Mattha really like they have 215 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: all very uh militantly thrown in with the PGA tour 216 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: and they you know, they they have made their leaders 217 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,239 Speaker 1: is very clear. And um, I do think that they 218 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: there's a righteousness there. You can certainly saw it from 219 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: Rory and you've heard it in Justin's comments and Rom 220 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's the guy who introduced fealty into the 221 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Gulf lexicon. Um So I do think that, um, there's 222 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: something to that. All these guys are fueled by different things. 223 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you know, when you when look at 224 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, like the Great Tiger Woods, he needed some 225 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: benign comment from Stephen Ames to get his engine revving, 226 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: and a million other things, you know, all the ways 227 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: he found motivation and fuel. Some off handed comment from 228 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: Rory Sabatini, some uh you know, Jack Nicholas, some newspaper 229 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: columnists and eighties six kind of just missing him as 230 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: a contender at Augusta like things that you that you 231 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: and I would think they would just blow off like 232 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: it does light the fire for even very accomplished players. 233 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think you're right, Michael, like this 234 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: is this is the has added in a level of 235 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: intensity and and just turned up the volume on the 236 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: whole thing. And so it's it's the United States Open. 237 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: They want to win this because they've always wanted to 238 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: win this. But if if a live player wins this tournament, 239 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: or one one of these guys who has become the 240 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: flag bearer for the PGA Tour, that's certainly going to 241 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: be uh commented upon, even probably by the player himself. 242 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: So it's a subplot, there's no question. And and and 243 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: just to follow up on that, if it's Rory or 244 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson down the stretch on Sunday, even though Dustin 245 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Johnson's in American, we're in Boston. I think they'd be 246 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: rooting for Rory. Now he's Irish. That might have something 247 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: to do with it. But you could substitute John Rahman. 248 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: I know I would be Ryan. Yeah, it will be 249 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: very interesting if there if there's a live, a live guy, 250 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: and a and a tour guy. And it's so weird 251 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: to say that that's where we're at in golf. Is 252 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: like we're at the for racing fans, we're at the 253 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: car I R l U pointing golf that we have 254 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: to point out where these players are are affiliated with. 255 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: But if it comes down, I would assume, no matter what, 256 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: they're going to go with tour guys. But I don't know. 257 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean Boston, Boston sports fans are are I a 258 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: fickle bunch? So it might be DJ just to mess 259 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: with everybody. Well, and also, I mean one of the 260 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: ironies and all this is that the monopolistic PGA tour, 261 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: this this organization that is crusted, crushed so many reporters 262 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: hopes and aspirations for telling stories in a different way, 263 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: and that has lorded over the players in so many words, 264 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're like the likable underdogs in 265 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: this story, which is kind of rich and um, you know, 266 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I had lunch yesterday with the DUDEO was U. He 267 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: was a long time executive at the Golf Channel and 268 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: he dealt with the PGA Tour for years and years, 269 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and he says it is such an I roll that 270 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: somehow the tours become sympathetic. He's like, they they are 271 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: the biggest pain in the acid to deal with at 272 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: every level. Like he's like, anyone engulf can't be rooting 273 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: for the PGA Tour. I thought that was an interesting 274 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: perspective and so, um, you know, there are people who 275 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: like chaos and and there's never been you know, in golf, 276 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: you're rooting for the human. You're not rooting for the jersey, 277 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: whereas in team sports, you're rooting for the jersey because 278 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: some of your favorite players just leave through free agency. 279 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: But you know, if you're a Red Sox or Celtics fan, 280 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: the players come and go, you're rooting for the You're 281 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: rooting for the laundry, right, You're rooting for the team. 282 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: And so golf has never had that that element before. 283 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: And maybe that that's gonna add something to the contrarians 284 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: out there and the anarchists, Uh, they might root for 285 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: the live guys because it just it adds spice to 286 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And then then the traditionalist might be 287 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: rooting for the tour guys, and so it's a whole 288 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: new layer to fandom. Um. You know, I think a 289 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: lot of the folks out there in the gallery aren't 290 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: paying attention to any of this. They're just happy to 291 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: be a golf tournament and just want to hit shots, 292 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: and they only known the name of ten players in 293 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: the field. But the lunatic fringe that consumes all of 294 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: our stuff and that that we're catering to at the 295 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: fire Pit Collective, they're tuned into this and they probably 296 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: have some some rooting allegiances, and some of them might 297 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: be against the tour for a variety of reasons. So 298 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a wild turn of events for sure. 299 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: I would say that PGA Tour out to your comment earlier, 300 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour maybe the underdogs, but they've got a 301 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: long ways to go to become likable. Yeah, I mean, 302 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a real thing. Like I will say this, 303 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: when I was over at the live event in London 304 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: and Phil hit one in the trees, I just pulled 305 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: out my camera and I filmed like this thirty second 306 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: recovery shot and the fans going crazy, and I posted 307 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter and it was like, wow, that was liberating, Like, um, 308 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: because I'm there for the fans. They want to see 309 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: all these shots. A lot of them are not going 310 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: to watch the live stream. They just they just didn't 311 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: get into it. But they want they want some highlights, 312 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: they want some sense of what it's like. And you know, 313 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: same thing that is, you know, the first t shots 314 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: to kind of kick this event off. I put those 315 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: up on Twitter, you know videos. Now, if we've done 316 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: that at a PGA Tour event, as we all know, 317 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: especially Ryan knows, like they would, they would unleash the 318 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: hounds on us. And we're public enemy number one because 319 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: we're trying to put some fun content out for fans 320 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: and at the live event kind of anything goes and 321 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: they almost encourage you to do that stuff because you're 322 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: helping them from you know, just read the word and 323 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: to bring fans closer to the action. So that was 324 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: a funny moment for me, like, Wow, this is cool. 325 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: I can do whatever the hell I want. Yeah, I 326 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: don't I don't know whether this is gonna. I didn't 327 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: know this podcast was going to go here, and Jay 328 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: can just cut this out if it is, but I 329 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: will tell quickly, Michael mind. I know the story. Alan 330 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: knows the story of my interaction with the PGA tour, 331 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: and you know why, Like you said, you know, it's 332 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: hilarious that that somehow they've become that good guys in 333 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: this thing. So I was videoing Monday Qualifies forever, got 334 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: a phone call that they wanted me to basically stop 335 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: after I had helped them walk, that they invited me 336 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: out and they invited me on a call to offer 337 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: me a job, and that they offered me a job 338 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: for thirty tho dollars a year that I had to 339 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: start a new Monday Qualifying account. Basically it was censorship. 340 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean I remember a person on the Zoom call 341 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: getting on and saying, Hey, Ryan, I'm I make a 342 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: pros and cons video, or of pros and cons list 343 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: of of where we go and when I look at 344 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: a new job. And he said the fact that you 345 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: can continue to video it would be in the in 346 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: the pros and that's all he said in the entire 347 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: Zoom call. And I didn't even know that I couldn't 348 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: video anymore. That was their way of letting me know. 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: So it's a state run media organization kind of. I mean, 350 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: that's how they keep it. They threatened people, not out ortally, 351 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: but very like, hey, if you write that, we're not 352 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: going to get you credentials or whatever. And so all 353 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: these guys have to swallow a lot of stories. And 354 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty avert. It's pretty overt. I mean, the threats 355 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: are not subtle. So it was very eye opening. I 356 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: got off the phone and I remember calling my wife 357 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: and it's like, it's basically like a video a call 358 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: with the mob. They were just like, hey, you're gonna 359 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: write this and do this, or you're not going to 360 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: be able to do this. And I'm like what, I 361 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: just had no idea. It was so eye opening into 362 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: you know what. It is, so long story short to say, 363 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe it that the somehow the PGA tour 364 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: is the good guys in there in here, They're they're 365 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: not they're the better guys, the best of the word. 366 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever the thing is. That's what my 367 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: wife said of Rex Tillerson when when when he finally 368 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: when she that's what she said when he finally left 369 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, we just lost the best of the worst. Uh. 370 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: Ryan to the point, by the way, Bryce and Di 371 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: Schambeau may have his price, but Ryan French is not 372 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna be bought forty dollars a year. There's I thought 373 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: about it. I had worked three years for a free talk. 374 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Just kidding. Good question for you. You're a lot of 375 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: your players haven't seen greenside pitch shots. Uh like these shots, 376 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: and Alan and I have been talking about this a 377 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: little bit of Alan has been mentioned several times. You've 378 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: got to be able to play two types of really 379 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: of green side pitch shots. I'm not even using the 380 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: word chip shots really because I'm really talking about an 381 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: open faced wedge shot when the balls in the air 382 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: longer than it's on the ground. The ferries are super 383 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: tight and they're gonna get tighter, and the rough is nerally. 384 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: A lot of your guys playing of courses don't have 385 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: these kinds of conditions. Have you observed them trying to 386 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: adjust and learn on the fly how to play some 387 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: of these shots? Yeah, I mean, I uh, I'm watching 388 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Luke close the closest, but a lot of these guys 389 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: are are spending way more time at then they would 390 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: around the greens. Um. For those that don't know, in 391 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: a in a apro practice practice round, drives and approach 392 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: shots outside of seeing how the ball reacts on the 393 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: greens aren't really a part of their practice rounds. If 394 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: they hit it in the rough, they know they're screwed. 395 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: So oftentimes they will hit a few out of the 396 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: rough just to kind of see how it reacts. But 397 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: outside of that, if they hit in the rough, they'll 398 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: move it back in the fairway because they want to 399 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: get a good assessment of the thing of the of 400 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: the how they would play the whole, assuming they hit 401 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: it well. Um. But and they do a few chips 402 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: and putts, But a lot of the guys that I 403 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: follow are doing way, way, way more chipping and putting 404 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: around the green than they would at a normal thing because, 405 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: like you said, there, they don't see rough like this, 406 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: And it's obviously one of the many disadvantages of playing 407 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: many tours. Many tours play on you know, municipal courses, 408 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: and they don't see They might see it at home, 409 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: or they might have access to a practice range that 410 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: has something or a practice area that has something but 411 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: they don't see this on an eighteen whole level, you know, 412 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: ever in competition. So it's one of the disadvantages of 413 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: the qualifier qualifiers faces. Yeah, they might be as talented, 414 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: you know as a guy who and you know, hundredth 415 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: in the on the PGA Tour, But the guy who 416 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: hundred the PGA Tour uh A has a place to 417 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: play next week, and b has played in conditions somewhat 418 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: like this. So yes, way more uh time around the 419 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: greens than they would normally would, right that. That's why 420 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Alan made the point the other day with Jeff Ogilvy 421 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: that in a weird sense, it's the easiest major to win. 422 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: It's no major's easy to win. But I think, if 423 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I may speak for you Allan, Allan's point was that 424 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: they're only thirty golfers maybe forty in the field who 425 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: actually have the golfing sophistication to play some of these 426 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: greenside shots that were talking about to get themselves in 427 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: position to shoot anything like two eighty in the first place. 428 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: Most of this field can't shoot two eighty. Yeah. And 429 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: and also to Ryan's point as well, I mean, really 430 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: firm greens is a differentiator at every level, and you're 431 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: not gonna find brick, hard baked out, closely cropped greens 432 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: like this in many places. I mean, it's not sustainable 433 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: at any level. Like you can, you can, you can 434 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: put push them to the edge for one week like 435 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: the U. S J always does and they've done here. 436 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: But no country club, no municipal course, is ever gonna 437 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: let their greens go go this far. So how the 438 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: ball reacts, what kind of shots you have to hit, 439 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: what kind of grind you have on your wedges like these, 440 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, on in these turf conditions, it's it's all new, 441 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: and it's a fascinating subplot. And that's why why we 442 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: love the US Open. It's just asked different questions that 443 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: any other tournament on the planet, and a lot of 444 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: the guys don't have the answers, and that that's what's 445 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: so thrilling about it. I was just gonna say along 446 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: those lines, when you when you take a really cerebral 447 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: player like Justin Thomas, who is playing really well, and 448 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: then you realize that he's come here a week ahead 449 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: of everybody else, and in a minute of speaking, you 450 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: can spend a week getting it in your head. What 451 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: am I going to do to play these shots, and 452 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: then you really come with a purpose. Could that mean 453 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, a half a shot around. There's no way 454 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: to really do the math. But it can't hurt, it 455 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: can only help. And with with that in mind, I 456 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: don't really know who in the field had that kind 457 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: of preparation. I know Justin did, uh, but I would 458 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: be I would be looking to players like that who 459 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: had that luxury of knowing they were going to be 460 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: in the event, may be coming here early and really 461 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: getting themselves in the mindset of this is what I'm 462 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: going to need to do to win a US Open 463 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: or contend in the US Open. I think it is 464 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: more likely how they think of it. I mean that 465 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: was that was part of Tiger's secret, is he felt 466 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: that the tournament owed him because he had put in 467 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: the work. He had come and he'd played the practice rounds, 468 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: he'd done the prep. He's like, I've worked harder than 469 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: anybody else. I deserve to win this, And that's an 470 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: important mindset. Is the same thing with Nicholas right, like 471 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: he's talking, I could go to the Majors. He played 472 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: four rounds and keep score and he Jack had already 473 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: shot two eighty on this golf course. He just did 474 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: it the week before, so um, and again, these are 475 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: not luxuries that a lot of guys have where they 476 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: can invest the time and the money and build their 477 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: whole season around majors and and preps. That it's another 478 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: reason why the best players are the best players, because 479 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: they've put put in very intentional work and a lot 480 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: of guys don't don't have that appetite or they don't 481 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: have that freedom. Um. I'm glad you mentioned Justin because 482 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about him. He's a guy who's 483 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: kind of been overlooked and Rory has become the face 484 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: of the sport. Um. But I think going back to 485 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the two thousand seventeen PGA that that justin one, no 486 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: one had doubled up on a major until until JT 487 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: just did it. And you know he has he has 488 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: bones as his caddie now, who's obviously brings a certain 489 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: presence and know how and what do we think about 490 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Justin Thomas's place in the game. What Live has done 491 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: is kind of made people outspoken, at least at this 492 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: aspect of it. So he's definitely become more outspoken. Um, 493 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: and a defender's kind of put everybody in the camp. 494 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: So I kind of like to see that about Justin 495 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: is you know, just I like to see it about athletes. 496 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I say it all the time to you guys. Is 497 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: the players that I cover have no one to answer to. 498 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: So I I get honesty and and rawness and UH 499 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: at all times for the most part. Um. But from 500 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: the top athletes, they have so many ramifications from saying, 501 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, what is on their mind. But this has 502 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: kind of made people forced to answer though, So it's 503 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: been good to see a more animated, opinionated Justin. Uh. 504 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: I would follow up by saying, without Tiger in the field. 505 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: And it's weird that we've been talking golf all week 506 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: and Tiger's name barely has come up. Uh, without Tiger 507 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: in the field, Justin Thomas's Tigers target. Uh, he's got that, 508 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, get out of my way quality. I'm all 509 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: about the golf. There really is no distracting interest in 510 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: any love sports other than golf, like like Tiger does, 511 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: but he really is about the work on the range, 512 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: the work on the course. Uh. And the score, the 513 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: score of the score. And I think that's a I 514 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: think that's in neat quality in Justin Thomas and uh, 515 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think if you've got a direct line 516 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: to Tiger Woods, I don't see how that could be 517 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: anything other than helpful. Yeah. I feel like, you know, 518 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: like the guys lose their way, right and with the 519 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: money and the fame, and I think it's easy to coast. 520 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: And you've seen a lot of young players who they 521 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of peak earlier, they flat line. But I think 522 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: Tiger is like it is like JT's conscience and uh, 523 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: and if you're feeling if you feel like you want 524 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: to take a week off and you don't want to 525 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: work on your game, whether Tiger actually says it in 526 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: a text message or you just know he might like 527 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: I think that gets I think that gets JT out 528 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: of bed. And then he does have a special gift. 529 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: And I think Tiger's instilled in him like he has 530 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: an obligation, like like there's there's there's something to chase 531 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: and that that's invaluable. You know, you can imagine that 532 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: Justin Thomas to do list it looks something like this 533 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: to do list today, get better at golf. No second, 534 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: no second, Yeah, or maybe number two is scan the 535 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Alabama football message boards for the latest recruit information. But 536 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: that's about it. I mean, m so it's impressive. Well, 537 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about Tiger because you know, his he looms 538 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: large in his absence and we we all got to 539 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: watch the grind at Southern Hills, and uh, I think 540 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: it's a little melancholy that he's not there. I think, 541 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, the Masters was giddy. It's like, oh my god, 542 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Tiger's back. He's got so much heart, Like it's such 543 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: a thrill to watch him. And maybe he can he 544 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: can keep improving and the lego gets stronger. Southern Hills 545 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: was like a reality check like, Okay, this is gonna 546 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: be harder than we thought. Um, and I think this 547 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: week is like it's kind of it's a bummer, like, well, um, 548 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: this is this this, this is the reality that even 549 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: an iron will cannot necessarily overcome just a broken body. 550 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: You know. It's it's I think if if you told 551 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: Tiger he had to walk a hundred miles, he would 552 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: do it if he had to, if there was a 553 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: competitive aspect to it. But that's not the same as 554 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: being able to execute golf shots and get your body 555 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: to move in a certain way. And um, it's just 556 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: like the reality is like he's damaged his body in 557 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: so many ways and his absence here is heavy to me. 558 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, this is even even Tiger acknowledging like 559 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I can't do this. And what is your 560 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: guys take away from from him kind of punting on 561 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: this tournament and saying he's gearing up for for the 562 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: old course, But what is the state of Tiger? I 563 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I take it kind of opposite Alan from the standpoint that, 564 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: and it comes off of your tweet that on at 565 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the Master's he should have withdrawn at the last round, right, 566 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Like Tiger, as you said, has never had anything that 567 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: has kept him back, even injuries. He's driven through those 568 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: to the detriment of his body. Obviously, maybe this is 569 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: the side of Tiger that he's matured enough to know 570 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: that he can't walk this course, he can't hit out 571 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: of the rough in these courses, So he's going to 572 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: save himself for the Masters and the Open Championship. That 573 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: kind of fit a what he can do for clear 574 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: and be his game at this point. So I take 575 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: it as a good sign that he knows that his 576 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: body is broken down, that he can't do the U 577 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: s open anymore, and he's going to play and pick 578 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: events that we're going to be able to see him. 579 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: So maybe this run, let's say it was five years. 580 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is that he could come 581 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: back and play. Maybe it's now seven, or it was 582 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna end. You know, he could come here and twist 583 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: the wrong way and there's a lot of little hills 584 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: and the ground isn't even and those kind of things. Uh. 585 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I think it's maybe a sign of maturity that hey, yeah, 586 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: my body is is seriously broken. Let me play whatever. 587 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: That number of events is a year, three two seven 588 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: events a year, and maybe I can do this for 589 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: four or five more years instead of playing all the 590 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: events I want to play for two years. I agree 591 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: with that. Ryan part of the genius of of Tigers. 592 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: He's both hyper realist and an idealist or fantas just 593 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: really about about what what what he can do and um, 594 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: but the realism he's so realistic about the ball in 595 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: the lie and what he can do with the shot, 596 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: and he's and he's so realistic about his expectations. So 597 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: if he's gonna I think he knew he had very 598 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: little chance to come in here, and even making a 599 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: cut and being able to walk it for thirty six 600 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: holst alone seventy two, and he's looking at the old 601 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: course and he's thinking, it's flat, I can walk it, 602 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: I know how to play it, and uh, the greens 603 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: are you know whatever, whatever, the greens are there slow 604 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: And I mean he's a great fast, green green putter, 605 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: So that's kind of a he knows how to play 606 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: links goff is what I'm really trying to say. I 607 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: got a chance, uh and uh and I need and 608 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: I need to rest myself up. So I think he 609 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: knew for that Friday around in Southern Hills there's a 610 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: really poor chance of me not even shooting eight and 611 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: what kind of toll will that take on me? And 612 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: he was wise to withdraw. It's unfortunate, Uh, but it's understandable. 613 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: And uh so yeah, I think he's just sized up 614 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: this scheduled. Having said all that, I find it really 615 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: hard and everything you say about Tigers wrong and so 616 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm not being modest. It is almost literally effect. I 617 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: really don't see a path for Tiger to play competitive 618 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: golf at the highest level again until maybe he's fifty 619 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: and he's playing in in in senior Majors, Jake, please 620 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: edit that out, um for the listeners. That's jakemble Downey, 621 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: who's these podcast producers, And uh, we love Jake and 622 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: he's great, but we're not gonna hut that out I think. 623 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope you guys are right, you know. 624 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: I guess I'm feeling just pessimistic. And yeah, this is 625 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: definitely not an easy walk and the old course is 626 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: certainly flatted. It's a bummer to think that Tiger is 627 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: going to have to choose his schedule by the length 628 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: of the grass and the topography. But maybe that's just realistic. 629 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: But of course Augustin National is the hardest walking golf, 630 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I think this would have been 631 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: a great, great course for Tiger because he could have 632 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: played so many crafty shots off the tea um, and 633 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the fairways are are slick. I mean, he could have 634 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: he could have just hit two irons and stingers and 635 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, you know, shaping the ball into 636 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: these tiny greens and then the recovery shots. Like I 637 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: actually think this is one of the best you guys 638 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: open venues for him because a lot of them are 639 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: now like you saw wingfoot it's just about how far 640 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: you can hit it, and whether you're in the rough 641 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: or not, it doesn't even matter. Um Ah, I think 642 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: this is a different kettle of fish, and I think 643 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: it would have been amazing to watch him navigate this 644 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: golf course. But well, to your point, Mary shapes up 645 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: well for him. There you go. Yeah, I mean, um, 646 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I appreciate your optimism. I need I 647 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: need some of that because I'm I'm missing Tiger this week. 648 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: It's just his presence to me. It's kind of glum. Okay, 649 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: I just addressed Tiger directly here. If he's he's listening 650 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: this far into the podcast, presumably he is. I think 651 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: there's a great second chapter. I know I've said this before, 652 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: but I want to keep saying it until we get 653 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: some kind of reaction from Tiger, like, yeah, that's a 654 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: really good idea. I would love to see him get 655 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: really involved in the PGA Tour and be something like 656 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: Chairman of Competitions and be part of a small group 657 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: that's going to reinvent the PGA Tour as we do, 658 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: because they think it's going to have to happen. And 659 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: I think there's no one with more gravitas and more 660 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: experience um to do it then he Uh. I just 661 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: think would be a really neat thing for golf and 662 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: it would be great for him. My goal, Michael Bamberger, 663 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: is to use the word gravitas, he learn what how 664 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: the hell to use it and be use it in 665 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: a podcast before the end of the week. You just 666 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: did Alan. Uh, Well, Tiger isn't is an X factor 667 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: in all this wrangling between the tours, because what does 668 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: Jamna have, Monahan have that the Saudis don't Tiger fucking 669 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: Woods like the greatest golfer of all time, still the 670 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: biggest draw. And as you're saying, Michael, if if he's 671 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to play that much tournament golf, 672 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: how can you leverage Tiger? And if I'm Monahan, I'm 673 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: gonna fly down to Jupiter. I can say, Tiger, what 674 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: is your vision for the PGA Tour and how can 675 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: we bring it to life? And let Tiger shape the schedule, 676 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: let him create his own invitationals, his own formats, like 677 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: have a tour within the tour, as you're saying, that 678 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: is completely Tiger centric, and he has a he's the 679 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: he's out front and center and whatever crazy idea has 680 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: the answers yes and whatever if you want, if you 681 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: whatever course he wants to go to, whatever format, if 682 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: he wants to give Charlie a sponsors exemption. Sure like 683 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: like Tiger Woods, is could be the savior of the 684 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: PGA Tour in a way that we never would have 685 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: imagined given his limit. And I don't think of leverage 686 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: as a political word in this context, even though he 687 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: does represent a great a great deal leverage. I just 688 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: mean his actual intelligence and love of tournament golf and 689 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: the creative side that we we actually do see on 690 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: the golf course. We don't see it too much off 691 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: the course. Um, he could just end the fact that 692 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: he needs something in his life. It would just be 693 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: an absolute win win. Yeah. I love that. Uh all right, well, 694 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: as we as we set the stage for for tomorrow's 695 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: first round, in any any parting thoughts about about this Open, 696 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, do we have has anything caught your eye 697 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: either in the press conferences in the practice rounds, I 698 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: would just offer this really quickly, and Ryn you may 699 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: you may know the answer. It's amazing to me to 700 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: think that we haven't been here for US Open since 701 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: and I don't know of him. Maybe you guys do. 702 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: When is it coming back here? Because this place is 703 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,959 Speaker 1: iconic and beautiful and Boston is a great city for 704 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: for for for national open um. Did you know when 705 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: it's coming back? I have no idea. Do you happen 706 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: to al? I'm googling it right now, but I don't 707 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: think every googling, I don't think it. I don't think 708 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: it's it's been announced. But to get to that point, Michael, like, 709 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: we all have our for a mental bucket lists of 710 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: the courses that we want to play that we haven't 711 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: and the Country Club has like skyrocket in my own 712 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: rankings because it just just so visually spectacular and it's 713 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing like it in American golf with the blind shots, 714 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: and I mean, it really feels like you're at Cruton 715 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: Bay or something. I mean it's it's wild and wooly 716 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: and funky and you know, to use Jeff Ogli's word 717 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: from the other the other night, I mean, it's nuanced 718 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: and it's quirky. And I love this place. I mean 719 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: it it is just fit to me. This is like 720 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: the most beautiful golf course I've seen in a long time. 721 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: And this golf course place in US use hands because 722 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't emphasize length exactly. I mean, one of the 723 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: one of the first you know, it's been said many times, 724 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: one of the founding members of the U s g. 725 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: A is one of the oldest clubs in the world. 726 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: And if they can't make a US Open work here, 727 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: they should just fold up and quit the whole thing. 728 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: So the fact that it's gonna be a spectacular tests 729 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: and the score, the winning scores are gonna be even 730 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: par or whatever, and it's not eight thousand yards like. 731 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Of course, they have lengthened it and they have tweaked it, 732 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: but that's that's the way it goes. But yeah, it 733 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: looks timeless and I think it's gonna be. It's going 734 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: to be such a star this week. So it makes 735 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: me even more excited about about this open. Ryan. Any 736 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: last thoughts, Uh, here's to a Here's to a qualifier winning. 737 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. This is the the 738 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: chance of a lifetime in any sport. Nothing like it. 739 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: A guy could come out of the mini tours to 740 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: win the biggest championship in the world. So um, Jake 741 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: is showing me a sign that I have to mention 742 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: our sponsors are awesome sponsors power Points. 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They've been super awesome to us, 749 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: and we appreciate this so we can do this crazy 750 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: stuff and yell at alan and talk over each other, 751 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: and uh, we appreciate their their Hell yes to um 752 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: to the listeners who have endured the cross talk, we 753 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: we love you and we thank you. UM. And it 754 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: will be reduced as the week goes on. We're gonna 755 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: come up with some elaborate hands signals an look like 756 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: a third base coach or the base is loaded, and 757 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: we'll work out the kinks. But this is another fire 758 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: drill podcast. We will be doing them probably every day 759 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: going forward, or we'll bring on US Open champion Jeff 760 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: Ogilvie for a few of them at least. And uh, 761 00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: thanks as always for listening. Michael Bamberger, Ryan Frent Uh onward. 762 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: Were enough talk. Let's let's let's let's play some golf 763 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: in earnest let's start counting up the strokes, I mean, 764 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: early weeks. Stuff is interesting, but now when it gets 765 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: really good. So the US Open US year, we're loving it. 766 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Put another log on the fire. Nobody 767 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: here is get the time.