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Speaker 4: It is our first show here of the twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five year. Still got one game to finish out the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season that comes up this Sunday. Cowboys
Speaker 4: will face the Commanders here at at and T Stadium
Speaker 4: at noon. But today we'll get you guys a little
Speaker 4: more prepared for that game. Got a few topics we're
Speaker 4: gonna hit today. We've got to talk about Zeke and
Speaker 4: what seemed to me to be somewhat of a surprise
Speaker 4: move that the Cowboys made, But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about the Pro Bowl selections. Cowboys got a
Speaker 4: few guys into the Pro Bowl, if you guys are
Speaker 4: surprised by any other people that were in or that
Speaker 4: are not in. And then we'll get into the Washington offense.
Speaker 2: Brian have a breakdown.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Nick's got some thoughts on this team and
Speaker 4: their offense. Tomorrow we'll talk a little bit more about
Speaker 4: the defense as we get you guys ready.
Speaker 2: For the game. So let's start with Zeke.
Speaker 4: We find out I think it was yesterday, all these
Speaker 4: days of all run together, was yesterday, two days ago,
Speaker 4: find out the.
Speaker 2: Cowboys were releasing him.
Speaker 4: And my question, which I think most people know, but
Speaker 4: I think it's worth the conversation.
Speaker 2: Why now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for Ezekiel Elliott, he sees an opportunity to potentially
Speaker 5: join a playoff team and he went to the organization saying, hey,
Speaker 5: can I be released so I can be afforded that
Speaker 5: opportunity in case it in case it arises, and uh,
Speaker 5: the organization chose to let that happen, not that he
Speaker 5: had been playing much in the last few weeks anyway,
Speaker 5: So they released seek one on Tuesday. He cleared waivers yesterday,
Speaker 5: and now he's free to sign with any team going
Speaker 5: into the playoffs. I you know, I was trying to
Speaker 5: think of teams that might be.
Speaker 6: Needing a running back in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I can't really think of any I mean, you could
Speaker 5: look at the Chargers and Detroit was my one thought.
Speaker 5: If David Montgomery is not as healthy as maybe they
Speaker 5: anticipate going into the playoffs, and that's maybe their short
Speaker 5: yardage guy that they could bring in and you know,
Speaker 5: mix in. But you know, how confident would another team
Speaker 5: be based on, you know, the opportunities that he had
Speaker 5: this year, the reports about him missing meetings and getting
Speaker 5: left in uh left in Dallas during the Atlanta game.
Speaker 6: I wonder how much that would factor.
Speaker 5: In if if he had an opportunity that became serious.
Speaker 5: But nevertheless, the return for Ezekiel Elliott overall, I think
Speaker 5: it's it's fair to say that it was it was
Speaker 5: a failure. It was it didn't quite work out in
Speaker 5: the end. In the beginning, it looked great, you know,
Speaker 5: we'd come out of that Cleveland game. He had forty
Speaker 5: nine total yards in that game he had the hurdle
Speaker 5: on the first play of from scrimmage. Everyone was like, okay,
Speaker 5: he might have a little juice, and then that would
Speaker 5: end up being not only the most yards he would
Speaker 5: account for the rest of the season, but the most
Speaker 5: touches he would get the rest of the season. And
Speaker 5: it just kind of went downhill from there, the running
Speaker 5: back by committee approach. I wonder how much that factored
Speaker 5: into him not being able to find his rhythm. I
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of things you look at, but
Speaker 5: in all, the number fifteen version of Ezekiel Elliott did
Speaker 5: not work out here.
Speaker 3: Now, this is the first NFL version of the transfer
Speaker 3: portal we've heard of.
Speaker 5: Well, Dalwin Cook last year, are you talking about like
Speaker 5: getting released right before the playoffs?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dalwin Cook last year?
Speaker 3: Or like, you know, there's a side of me that like,
Speaker 3: I think that maybe we got some back channeling going
Speaker 3: on here. Do you think somebody came in with the
Speaker 3: Rocky Arsenal and.
Speaker 2: That you know, hey, if he was available, now the
Speaker 2: guy's gone.
Speaker 3: I could say this right, Yeah, okay, so maybe some
Speaker 3: back channeling, like some say, hey, if you could get
Speaker 3: them released, you maybe might take a look at him,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, clear waivers, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of things that are going
Speaker 3: on here too. I think that maybe and this is
Speaker 3: this is this is the conspiracy theories of me right now,
Speaker 3: probably irresponsible. I kind of feel like that maybe that
Speaker 3: that they were talking about that they were going to
Speaker 3: play deuce on in this game, and maybe he was
Speaker 3: going to be inactive. And you remember what happened when
Speaker 3: they talked about him being inactive in the Atlanta week,
Speaker 3: everything kind of went to hell. You know, He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, oh well hey, you know, and then it
Speaker 3: all came out about the miss meetings and things like that.
Speaker 3: You know, all of a sudden, when he's not going
Speaker 3: to be active, I don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 3: You know, go ahead and release me. It's all nice
Speaker 3: and tidy and get on with a playoff team and
Speaker 3: all that. You know, great, But I I if there
Speaker 3: was some back channeling going on. You don't ask for
Speaker 3: your releases late in the year unless you got something
Speaker 3: going my opinion, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: That's still as a game check you're missing, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So there's you know, maybe the Cowboys can find out
Speaker 3: there was some tampering going on here. Again, I'm not
Speaker 3: it's Brian Broadest one O five three the fan, not
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, not it's my opinion. Sorry, okay, But yeah,
Speaker 3: so that you know, maybe some back channeling going on,
Speaker 3: we'll see. But maybe also too that they got to
Speaker 3: the point where they were going to play they wanted
Speaker 3: to see Deuce Fawn play, or they wanted to see
Speaker 3: somebody else play, and Zeke Leveltt wasn't going to be
Speaker 3: active this game. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying though, it
Speaker 3: could be a situation where they did not want to
Speaker 3: go through what they went through Atlanta week and they're
Speaker 3: saying let's just move on. But it sounds really nice
Speaker 3: and tidy that we'll get them an opportunity to get
Speaker 3: on with a playoff team. You know.
Speaker 4: You know one thing that that I just jumps out
Speaker 4: to me is that I think this year we've seen
Speaker 4: a resurgence of running backs around the NFL who were
Speaker 4: guys that you.
Speaker 3: Take care of themself in the set.
Speaker 4: But yeah, in the second third contracts and they are
Speaker 4: producing really well for teams this year. Do you think
Speaker 4: that Zeke here, do you think that his lack of
Speaker 4: production here was about other things, whether it was the
Speaker 4: offensive line, whether it was the opportune Do you think
Speaker 4: there were other things that were factored in or do
Speaker 4: you think it's just he just doesn't have what he
Speaker 4: once had.
Speaker 3: There were go ahead, no, no really played.
Speaker 5: There were there were multiple factors that I think played
Speaker 5: into Zeke not being nearly as effective as even anyone
Speaker 5: anticipated coming into the year. But I think it starts
Speaker 5: with him off the field. It starts with what happened
Speaker 5: off the field, him missing meetings, him losing support in
Speaker 5: the locker room. I mean it starts there, and then
Speaker 5: that stuff fizzles into when he actually does show up
Speaker 5: to the meetings, when he actually does get onto the field.
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at that forty nine Ers game
Speaker 5: and when Rico Daddle was ruled out for the illness
Speaker 5: really late in Ezekiel Elliott starts in that game.
Speaker 6: He didn't look comfortable the entire game.
Speaker 5: I mean, you had Dalvin Cook getting worked in with
Speaker 5: carries as well, But when Zeke had an opportunity, it
Speaker 5: didn't work out because, in my opinion of what had
Speaker 5: already been established off the field.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're absolutely right about that. I mean
Speaker 3: the guys you're talking about. They they you know, we
Speaker 3: got to you know, Derrick Henry. They they give him
Speaker 3: the award after a game the other day, like the
Speaker 3: red Velvet cake, and he's like not interested. Thanks. There's
Speaker 3: a guy that's kind of conscious of what he puts
Speaker 3: in his body, you know what. You know, probably asleep,
Speaker 3: probably spends a lot of money to take care of
Speaker 3: himself so he can play at a very very high level.
Speaker 3: Zeke reminds me of me when I was age. I
Speaker 3: had a great time in life. I absolutely had a
Speaker 3: great time in life, you know, and a lot of
Speaker 3: crazy things happened in my life at that time when
Speaker 3: I was his age, So I understand it. I got
Speaker 3: some Zeke in me.
Speaker 6: Was that a church in New York with Bill Parcells?
Speaker 3: No, No, that was a different trip. But but no,
Speaker 3: but I'm serious. There's you know, guys have fun in life.
Speaker 3: He had a lot of fun, you know, and I
Speaker 3: think that finally caught up to him in a lot
Speaker 3: of ways. And and so to me, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I I'm I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that it
Speaker 3: didn't work out. I would be really interested if we
Speaker 3: could do this, If Mike McCarthy, if you could get
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy on the on the side and asked Mike
Speaker 3: McCarthy this question, did you really want Ezekiel Elliott here?
Speaker 3: I wonder what Mike McCarthy would say, And maybe you
Speaker 3: have to get Mike McCarthy when if he's no longer here,
Speaker 3: you get him off at the side at the combine
Speaker 3: or something like that and ask him that question. But
Speaker 3: I really really wondered if this was a front office
Speaker 3: driven thing, and then you know, and Mike was forced to,
Speaker 3: you know, the San Francisco game, Okay, we're gonna we're
Speaker 3: gonna load Zeke up here. You know, we're gonna. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna show you, you know what that's all about. So
Speaker 3: I think from the jump, just my opinion again that
Speaker 3: maybe there was a divide between the front office and
Speaker 3: the coaching staff on really what they what the vision was,
Speaker 3: or what they wanted to do with Ezekiel Elliott, and
Speaker 3: it never, for the entire season, never became anything of
Speaker 3: any any substance.
Speaker 8: I think right now, in my opinion, it would be very,
Speaker 8: very difficult to really evaluate Zeke's position at the moment
Speaker 8: and whether or not he would have been good and
Speaker 8: productive for these offense, even though he did get some
Speaker 8: chances at the beginning of the season, we saw what
Speaker 8: the running game was there. It didn't matter who was
Speaker 8: touching the ball and who was running. It just wasn't
Speaker 8: working with what the offensive line was doing for you.
Speaker 8: So right now, I do think if given the opportunity
Speaker 8: in a better situation somewhere else, I can see him
Speaker 8: being productive, still be productive. I think he needs a
Speaker 8: change of scenery for sure, because you can take you
Speaker 8: can see how off the field he wasn't the same
Speaker 8: zek like he He wasn't the same goofy, happy guy
Speaker 8: walking around. He didn't seem happy being here. And when
Speaker 8: you hear about missing meetings and things like that, it's
Speaker 8: very unlikely. It's it's not like.
Speaker 9: Zeke, like the Zeke we used to know that was here.
Speaker 8: And we saw even though he had that moment, his
Speaker 8: crazy little moments here and there at the beginning of
Speaker 8: his career, bring it up really quick. And he was
Speaker 8: a leader in there, in the locker room. He always
Speaker 8: stood in front of the media and always talked, and
Speaker 8: he took care of business. He was practicing and did
Speaker 8: what he needed to do. So whatever the reason may be.
Speaker 9: And I saw it a training camp.
Speaker 8: When he got there, he was putting in the work
Speaker 8: and he was like focused and kind of a tunnel vision.
Speaker 8: But it didn't pan out for him here. So I
Speaker 8: hope that he can find that happiness again, because you
Speaker 8: see it in a player. You see when someone has
Speaker 8: success and then all of a sudden they're not having
Speaker 8: that kind of same success or attention, And not that
Speaker 8: he's looking for the attention like that like in front
Speaker 8: of us or anything like that, or anything like that.
Speaker 8: I don't know how to describe it, but you see
Speaker 8: when someone's demeanor just changes. So hopefully he is able
Speaker 8: to find another team and just have a little a
Speaker 8: second chance, another a third chance, let's say, because this
Speaker 8: would be what he was here in Dallas, went to
Speaker 8: New England and then came back. So what would that be.
Speaker 6: Fourth chance?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I still wish him good luck and well because we
Speaker 8: know he deep down is a good guy.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, This is a bigger picture question
Speaker 4: based on what he's done here, because I think there
Speaker 4: was a time I think people sat quickly forget how
Speaker 4: good he was in twenty sixteen, and then those subsequent years,
Speaker 4: he was really really bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that all being said, do you think Zeke Kelly
Speaker 2: is a Ring of Honor caliber player?
Speaker 5: I had this conversation with someone a couple of days ago.
Speaker 5: The thing is if you if you get him in,
Speaker 5: it opens up a really much larger situation or conversation
Speaker 5: about a lot of other players around him, because if
Speaker 5: you put in Zeke, then you're putting in Dak, who
Speaker 5: you know may or may not be worthy of that
Speaker 5: by the end. And if you're putting in Dak, you're
Speaker 5: putting in Romo, and you're putting in Romo, you're putting
Speaker 5: in does put if you put in it's just it's
Speaker 5: kind of a domino effect from there.
Speaker 6: But if we're talking about Zeke in a vacuum, I
Speaker 6: don't know. That's tough, it's hard.
Speaker 4: I think he's one of those guys that you look
Speaker 4: at his reduction and when he was good man, he
Speaker 4: was really really, really good, but the longevity just wasn't there.
Speaker 6: Dorset is in right, Yeah he is. Yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 9: How many years do you need? How many?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know that
Speaker 4: there is a certain number. Because Charles Haley didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he didn't have a large body of work here. Now
Speaker 4: you look at his overall career between here in San Francisco,
Speaker 4: he obviously had a pretty decently long career, but he
Speaker 4: didn't have a long time here in Dallas.
Speaker 2: But then you look at somebody like Dion.
Speaker 4: Dion I think had more years here than Charles Haley
Speaker 4: did I think in the ring is he No, he's not.
Speaker 4: I want to say, Dion's like five years here, six
Speaker 4: years here, Brian, you remember.
Speaker 3: Oh look, but I don't know what I had for breakfast.
Speaker 2: The whole point I'm making. The whole point I'm making.
Speaker 4: I think he is a really, really tough one because
Speaker 4: at the height he was as good as anybody that's
Speaker 4: done it here absent obviously EMMTT Smith and probably Dorset. Uh,
Speaker 4: but you know, other than that, Like, I just think
Speaker 4: he had a really great couple three four years and
Speaker 4: then it just kind of went away, And I just
Speaker 4: wanted that's enough to get him in.
Speaker 5: And we're talking an offensive rookie of the Year knocking
Speaker 5: on the door of MVP a couple of seasons, two
Speaker 5: time rushing leader. That's tough to do. I don't know
Speaker 5: that'll be an interesting conversation one day. If it were me,
Speaker 5: i'd put him in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just me.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's Hall of Fame, but I think
Speaker 2: ring Van and he has a case.
Speaker 5: There's the fifteen on there too, like like Kobe gets
Speaker 5: the twenty four in the eight Yeah.
Speaker 3: Eh. The question, the question that I would ask is,
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was as good as Calvin
Speaker 3: Hill was. And I'm old enough to watch Calvin Hill.
Speaker 2: I never watched Calvin Hill, but yet knew of him,
Speaker 2: but I didn't.
Speaker 3: Watch Calvin Hill was a big part of some championship
Speaker 3: teams here, and so you know, you think about of
Speaker 3: course you're gonna think about Emmitt Smith, you're gonna think
Speaker 3: about Tony dor set. I personally me, I don't think
Speaker 3: DeMarco Murray gets nearly enough credit for being a good
Speaker 3: back here, you know. And so you know, am I
Speaker 3: saying that Ziekh's better as you look at DeMarco Murray? Sure?
Speaker 3: But I mean I Calvin Hill to me was just
Speaker 3: as just as when you go back in the seventies
Speaker 3: and watch him play, and you know, they played a
Speaker 3: shorter schedule, not a lot of teams, but every time
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys needed a big game. Calvin Hill delivered,
Speaker 3: you know, And and so that's kind of where I'm
Speaker 3: I'm at. I think the I think the backs from
Speaker 3: the previous era, you know, the seventies, the eighties and
Speaker 3: then into the nineties, I think those backs are pretty special.
Speaker 3: But you guys did a special on Mariam Barber. He
Speaker 3: guys did a specially. You know, we've you've seen some
Speaker 3: really quality backs go through here. Zeke, you know, he's
Speaker 3: kind of probably the head of that group. But I
Speaker 3: don't know if I could put him ahead of Calvin
Speaker 3: Hill in my in my mind, and I'm the oldest
Speaker 3: one here and saw Calvin Hill play, so I can
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's fair. And I do think they'll obviously that.
Speaker 4: The interesting part is there's only one person, Jerry, that
Speaker 4: decides the Ring of honor.
Speaker 6: One person, Jerry, Yeah, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: We know he's very fond of him as a person,
Speaker 4: and uh, and I don't know if that colors the
Speaker 4: decision or not. I have no idea when Jerry knows that,
Speaker 4: but but we know he's very fond of of of
Speaker 4: a Zeke.
Speaker 10: So we'll see that.
Speaker 8: I mean, we saw Jerry's statement that came out. But
Speaker 8: do you think, given what has happened behind the scenes,
Speaker 8: behind the curtains in this couple of months that Zeke
Speaker 8: has been here, do you think the relationship has changed
Speaker 8: or been damaged a little.
Speaker 2: Bit or But I know of Jerry, I doubt that.
Speaker 3: Not with the front office. Maybe with the coaches.
Speaker 5: You can't hear any worse than some of those guys
Speaker 5: that are in the Ring of Honor. And that's that's
Speaker 5: not to discredit anybody that is in the ring. I'm
Speaker 5: just there's there's been off the field issues with a
Speaker 5: couple of those guys as well, and I don't think
Speaker 5: a couple of them weren't about as zekes.
Speaker 4: My thing is like, you just look at Jerry and
Speaker 4: you look at his players. I think Jerry's very, very,
Speaker 4: very loyal and those players that are his guys, they're
Speaker 4: going to forever be his guys. I don't care what
Speaker 4: happens because you look at somebody like dez Dez has
Speaker 4: a lot of problems with a lot of people that
Speaker 4: came through this building while he was here. You asked
Speaker 4: you open the question about what he thinks about Jerry Jones,
Speaker 4: and it is like he just loves the man, and
Speaker 4: it's vice versas Jerry just loves him.
Speaker 2: And it was some of those same.
Speaker 4: Things that we've kind of been hearing about, you know,
Speaker 4: the mis meetings all that. That was some of the
Speaker 4: same stuff that was happening with Daz back in the day.
Speaker 4: But the relationship is there between he and Jerry. It
Speaker 4: might not be there with anybody else in this building,
Speaker 4: but within him and Jerry, that relationship is there. So
Speaker 4: I just I feel like Jerry just he keeps the
Speaker 4: relationship with his guys and it just, for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: it stays regardless of what the player goes through. You know,
Speaker 4: there are a lot of guys around here who have
Speaker 4: had careers and have had a lot of problems off
Speaker 4: the field. Some of those guys are still working in
Speaker 4: this building because Jerry just has loyalty for them, you know.
Speaker 3: I just you know, if you I think if I
Speaker 3: got this right, if you go in the stadium, you
Speaker 3: have the pre nineteen eighty ninees on one side of
Speaker 3: the stadium and the post nineteen eighty nine's on the
Speaker 3: other side of the state. So yeah, there's a there's
Speaker 3: a distinguishing line there that you know, that that you
Speaker 3: can say, okay, well and then okay, you got guys that,
Speaker 3: like you say, the Romos, the Does Bryants, the Jason Witten's.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's Jerry them. Done a nice job
Speaker 3: getting players to come through here, just hasn't turned into
Speaker 3: the championships that you've seen on that opposite side of
Speaker 3: the stadium. You know, you get eight men and Emmin
Speaker 3: and Michael of course, but you know everybody else that
Speaker 3: goes in now with that group on that on that side,
Speaker 3: that's not going to be a super Bowl likely super
Speaker 3: Bowl winning player that goes up in there. And and
Speaker 3: now it turns into Nick is now watchdogging. You know,
Speaker 3: when he goes to a stadium, he goes look at
Speaker 3: these ring of honor dudes, Arizona is still.
Speaker 9: Yeah there loves doing that. He loves every time we
Speaker 9: look at.
Speaker 3: Who's fright Tripuka here? Who's what did he do? So yeah,
Speaker 3: you start watchdog and the other team spree of honor
Speaker 3: and then it gets you to appreciate the ring of
Speaker 3: honor you see ten times a year, you know when
Speaker 3: you go into that stadium.
Speaker 5: All right, I know we gotta go to break who
Speaker 5: are some guys that are due though Witten is it
Speaker 5: just Witting is is that the only home run Foreshore
Speaker 5: will be up there one.
Speaker 4: Day of the time that I've been here. Obviously, DeMarcus
Speaker 4: is already in. I think Witten definitely gets in. Then
Speaker 4: it becomes a situation of, like you said, if you
Speaker 4: start letting in the Romo Romos, the des like those
Speaker 4: are those were really good players, and I think they
Speaker 4: were fan favorites, But I don't know if you put
Speaker 4: them in the same category of the Triplets or of
Speaker 4: you know, those guys that were great and they won championship. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's really just a hard thing. When you have a
Speaker 4: franchise that's won five championships, then it's almost like without
Speaker 4: a championship, it becomes very very difficult to get into
Speaker 4: that upper echelon of players, right, And in some franchises
Speaker 4: where they don't have that number of championships, it's a
Speaker 4: little easier, and some of those guys who had really
Speaker 4: great careers can get in because it's like, well, they
Speaker 4: didn't have championships, but these other people didn't either, So
Speaker 4: you know, I just think it's I think that's a
Speaker 4: tough one. I look at Witne Witnes is the only
Speaker 4: one for me that is a slam dunk. I don't
Speaker 4: think there's anybody Well, I take that back, I take
Speaker 4: that back. We're forgetting about the offensive lineman. Zach Martin
Speaker 4: is a slam.
Speaker 2: Tyren Smith is probably a slam dunk. We're not talking
Speaker 2: about the offensive line.
Speaker 6: But I think those two guys, Yeah.
Speaker 4: But those two guys added to wit and I think
Speaker 4: those are the three players to me that are I
Speaker 4: feel fairly certain they're going to end up in the
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor.
Speaker 8: You answer your own question, what very your initial question
Speaker 8: about Zeke? You just made the perfect.
Speaker 6: Argument right there without.
Speaker 4: Noting no, I think, but yeah, but Nick made the
Speaker 4: point like if you put him in the got to
Speaker 4: put it in a lot of other guys. And I
Speaker 4: just I think longevity. Longevity matters, to be honest with you.
Speaker 4: I think it's why Emmitt Smith is where he is
Speaker 4: from the standpoint of just how he's recognized him obviously
Speaker 4: being the leader in rushing yards in a career is
Speaker 4: because of his longevity. Like he wasn't he wasn't killing
Speaker 4: the league his last several years in the league.
Speaker 2: He just kept doing it, kept doing it.
Speaker 4: Over and over, and there's something to be said for
Speaker 4: that in the sport where injuries are a part of it.
Speaker 4: To be able to play that long, especially at a
Speaker 4: position like that where you're taking hits every play, like,
Speaker 4: I really think there's some value to that, and so
Speaker 4: I think that's probably why he doesn't end up.
Speaker 3: But who knows.
Speaker 2: It's Jerry's call, So only Jerry knows.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's funny. I was trying to think of
Speaker 3: how many Ring of Honor players are not Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame members, and I was thinking of Don Perkins is
Speaker 3: one of them. I know, I don't know if Don
Speaker 3: Meredith is another one. It's very very.
Speaker 2: Very few, rare Hall of Fame, so yeah, I think
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 3: I think that Perkins and Meredith might be the only
Speaker 3: two tex Shrims in the Hall of gil Brandts in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. I mean, yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 3: very it's a it is a unique group of of
Speaker 3: you know, so now you're going to get into some
Speaker 3: situations woldn't will be a Hall of Famer well Romo
Speaker 3: will you know, will others? That's if your standard is
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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the Washington offense right now.
Speaker 4: They are fifth in scoring, they are fourth in total offense.
Speaker 4: They're sixteenth in passing offense, but they are third in
Speaker 4: rushing offense.
Speaker 3: Thank you, quarterback.
Speaker 2: I'm right.
Speaker 4: I'm going to take you back to the Cowboys first
Speaker 4: game with them, the first matchup this year, when they
Speaker 4: faced them in Washington. How well do you think the
Speaker 4: Dallas defense matched up against that Washington team in that
Speaker 4: first matchup?
Speaker 3: I felt like it was pretty good. I went back
Speaker 3: and watched the game just to make sure, and what
Speaker 3: they did was I like what Mike did with by
Speaker 3: putting Micah Parsons as a three technique and working against
Speaker 3: Nick Alagretti and Tyler Bottish and guys like that. So
Speaker 3: he kind of figured out that those those guys were
Speaker 3: going to struggle a little bit and they were able
Speaker 3: to get some pressure that way. Golston did a really
Speaker 3: nice job off the edge, you know, they were they
Speaker 3: were able to kind of create pressures. And then zim
Speaker 3: Are really like I said, he matched it up really good,
Speaker 3: putting his best players on their poorest blockers when it came,
Speaker 3: and there were a couple of times there were a
Speaker 3: couple of sacks Nick and No you remember this where
Speaker 3: Daniels is running outside the pocket, just unload the ball
Speaker 3: instead he kind of goes out of bounce and you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: thank you, sack. You know, sack. So yeah, this crew
Speaker 3: is hat. If you go back and watch the Atlanta
Speaker 3: game last week, this crew had problems with blitzing linebackers
Speaker 3: and then also some secondary pressure and that's what Zim
Speaker 3: did also too. We saw Wilson, you know, we saw
Speaker 3: we saw Jordan Lewis rushing and all that. So there
Speaker 3: was that that that the mug look, double a gap
Speaker 3: blitz stuff where pressure was gonna come from. Really confused,
Speaker 3: confused Daniels in that football game. His his reads weren't
Speaker 3: as clear, and I think I think that he could
Speaker 3: probably bet that we're going to see Michael Parsons move around,
Speaker 3: and because they're banged up at right tackle, Andrew Wiley
Speaker 3: has a growing problem. And so they used two different
Speaker 3: right tackles last week, you know, with with Scott and Lucas,
Speaker 3: and so it really wasn't as a good of a
Speaker 3: good of a combination for them. Wiley has been really
Speaker 3: good for them, So keep an eye on that, how
Speaker 3: that position or how the offensive line works out. But
Speaker 3: I think Zimmer's gonna hunt some matchups here Brandon Coleman,
Speaker 3: the rookie hunts some matchups there, he's given up some sacks.
Speaker 3: We think we talked about it last time we did
Speaker 3: this game. That that I think that's where things could
Speaker 3: could very well hinge for the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: I can almost guarantee.
Speaker 5: Leading up into that first matchup with Washington, Michael Parsons
Speaker 5: went to Mike Zimmer and he was like, Hey, I
Speaker 5: got something, line me up over Tyler Battish.
Speaker 6: I know I can doe this guy. And I don't
Speaker 6: know for sure, but I could.
Speaker 5: I could almost bet on it that that is what
Speaker 5: happened because you saw him generate inteer You're pressure more
Speaker 5: than that game than he has in any other game
Speaker 5: this year. Two sacks in that game for him and then,
Speaker 5: like you said, sending pressure from the linebacking court, from
Speaker 5: the secondary, uh it, it can.
Speaker 6: Disrupt a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 5: And you talk up with the double mug look as well,
Speaker 5: we could look at jayde Daniels, we look at c J. Stroud,
Speaker 5: we could look at Drew Locke. All these young quarterbacks
Speaker 5: of this defense has gone up against this year. Throwing
Speaker 5: that double mug disguise on them has given it has
Speaker 5: given them issues and so I think you can expect
Speaker 5: a little bit more of the same here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had some promise in the Atlanta games too,
Speaker 3: and some of the others that I watched that doubt
Speaker 3: was Blitz pick up with Brian Robinson. He was getting
Speaker 3: knocked around a little bit. Brian Robinson's a good player. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: if you remember, if you yeah, if you remember, if
Speaker 3: you remember, in the in the game, first carry of
Speaker 3: the game against the Cowboys, he got twisted up. Mozzi
Speaker 3: got in the backfield and he got twisted up and
Speaker 3: it hurt his ankle and he really won. The same player.
Speaker 3: They think they're going to get back, They think that
Speaker 3: they might get back, uh uh Eckler. Yeah. So well
Speaker 3: he's a big part of what they do. And he
Speaker 3: did play that Cowboys, he did, and he got a
Speaker 3: concussion in the game and hadn't played since, so he's
Speaker 3: dealing with that. But this team loves to throw the
Speaker 3: ball down the field, especially with Terry McLaurin. He is
Speaker 3: going to make plays down the field, and they love
Speaker 3: to throw screens. Get ready for the wide receiver screens
Speaker 3: and get ready for the running back screens because they're
Speaker 3: going to screen you to death to kind of see
Speaker 3: if they can hold that rushing place.
Speaker 4: When you talk about the rushing game, Jayden Daniels rush
Speaker 4: for seventy four yards on seven carries against the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: No other player game more than twenty two rushing yards
Speaker 4: that game. Between Eckler and Robinson, how do you think
Speaker 4: they can better contain Daniels based on what they did
Speaker 4: in that first game?
Speaker 2: Or is this one?
Speaker 4: Is this a situation where you like, as long as
Speaker 4: you stop those other guys, you can be okay with
Speaker 4: him having some yards as he did in this game where.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys ended up with the win, said Eckler.
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, how do you Daniel's if I'm.
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
Speaker 5: With with Daniel's eye, I think it's just sealing the edge.
Speaker 5: I think it's containing the edge, keeping him in the
Speaker 5: pocket as much as possible, And I think they did
Speaker 5: a good job of that in that first the first matchup,
Speaker 5: he did get away for a couple of runs, especially
Speaker 5: there in the fourth quarter where things got crazy, he
Speaker 5: got away for one. I think of that touchdown drive
Speaker 5: that they had that led to the turp in return.
Speaker 5: I look at that and I see a couple of
Speaker 5: Big Daniels runs. But aside from that, they did a
Speaker 5: good job keeping him in the pocket, keeping him contained,
Speaker 5: and they got four sacks on him, and that it
Speaker 5: was a really good job by guys like Chauncey Golston,
Speaker 5: by guys like marshn England wasn't back for that game,
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons whenever he was lined up on the edge,
Speaker 5: being able to contain the edge and get.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I would have to say.
Speaker 5: Just continue to contain him, don't let him go outside
Speaker 5: of the pocket, because that's when he can make things
Speaker 5: really dangerous.
Speaker 6: He did that against Philly.
Speaker 5: Philly didn't do a good job of keeping him contained,
Speaker 5: and you saw him use his athleticism not only in
Speaker 5: scampering away but also throwing on the run.
Speaker 6: He's he's a Heisman winner for a reason.
Speaker 8: Go Tigers question their position in the playoffs?
Speaker 9: Do they have it? Like? Does this game change anything?
Speaker 3: They need to win because if they win, there the
Speaker 3: sixth seed, which means they go play the Rams. If
Speaker 3: they lose in green Bay wins, they can fall to
Speaker 3: seven and then that way then green Bay would the
Speaker 3: green Bay would be the sixth seeds.
Speaker 2: So they're playing in but they.
Speaker 9: Have, Yeah, the position.
Speaker 3: They're either going to play the Rams or the Eagles.
Speaker 3: That's why if you listen to dan Quinn talk, he's
Speaker 3: he's adamant about trying to play this game and win
Speaker 3: because he wants to stay in the sixth seed is
Speaker 3: what he wants to do. He would rather he would
Speaker 3: rather deal with the Rams in indoor climate control conditions
Speaker 3: that he would have to make a trip to Philadelphia again.
Speaker 2: And that's like they're playing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's that's where that's where this is
Speaker 3: at right now. So they're gonna play. They're gonna play
Speaker 3: to try. Now there comes to a level where all
Speaker 3: of a sudden how much you're willing to play to win?
Speaker 3: You know what if you get behind and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, then you start losing, you start to lose
Speaker 3: players then and then that quickly that playing the win
Speaker 3: bit turns into no, we're not playing anymore. But he's
Speaker 3: come out and set. He's trying to make sure that
Speaker 3: seating is important to him. Did he make sure that
Speaker 3: his team is seated in the best possible spot. And
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I'll take my chances
Speaker 3: playing the Rams that I would the Eagles. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll take my chances.
Speaker 6: Help the Eagles team because they're going to be resting
Speaker 6: this week.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and they're just playing well right now. That's
Speaker 2: the herd they are.
Speaker 4: They are one of those teams that's going to be
Speaker 4: a factor, I think in the playoffs. So yeah, if
Speaker 4: you want to if you can avoid playing them the
Speaker 4: first round, you probably want to avoid playing them that early.
Speaker 4: What do you guys expect as far as how you
Speaker 4: how you uh? Or who will be playing opposite Bland?
Speaker 4: And knowing what you're talking about with McLaren, is this
Speaker 4: a situation where.
Speaker 3: He plays a lot? He plays?
Speaker 4: Would you think about having Bland travel with McLaren just
Speaker 4: because he's their best receiver by far?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: And Bland is your best corner by far.
Speaker 5: He did last week with Brown, Yeah, they finally traveled,
Speaker 5: but I think it came to a situation where they
Speaker 5: had seven corners on.
Speaker 3: The keys can play though too for them. Yeah, you know, true,
Speaker 3: he's he's he had a good game, and Brown they've
Speaker 3: got some receivers and so yeah, I mean to me,
Speaker 3: it's you're you're, you're you're in a bad spot. You're
Speaker 3: in a bad spot. At that cornerback, you know, unless
Speaker 3: you want to, like we've talked about here for the
Speaker 3: last several weeks, is if you just say, Okay, we're
Speaker 3: playing is he on the outside and we're to play
Speaker 3: Lewis on the inside, and occasionally we're gonna flip because
Speaker 3: you're not going to get Terry McLaurin in the in
Speaker 3: the in the slot that much. He plays outside primarily,
Speaker 3: his all his routes are on the outside. So you know,
Speaker 3: they they they're going to try and find a way
Speaker 3: to match him up on whoever your corner is opposite
Speaker 3: or bland if that's the case, traveling, you know, travel
Speaker 3: travel bland and just and just hope the hell that
Speaker 3: everybody else can hold up, you know.
Speaker 5: And I'm hoping keim On Hall is ready to go.
Speaker 5: I want to see him, but I'm hoping he's ready
Speaker 5: to go for this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to just see him out there.
Speaker 4: I just want to see what he can do. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think he has some moments during training camp in
Speaker 4: the preseason. Be nice just to see what he can do.
Speaker 5: Had that pick six against Vegas, I remember that one specifically.
Speaker 5: That's probably the reason he made the team. Or the
Speaker 5: practice squad.
Speaker 9: Rather coming off a hamstring doesn't sound very promising.
Speaker 6: Especially one.
Speaker 2: So going into.
Speaker 8: That, Yeah, you guys want to be excited about this guy,
Speaker 8: but I'm saying, like he not hamstre seven.
Speaker 3: Let us have some enjoy it, right, I'll tell you what, Derek,
Speaker 3: you know you and if I can circle back on
Speaker 3: the whole thing with Daniels, you're not going to stop
Speaker 3: him running the ball. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen
Speaker 3: it all. I've seen it his l s U years.
Speaker 3: I've seen it here. Now, you know, the the the
Speaker 3: hope is that the hope is that you you could
Speaker 3: find a way to kind of make him play backwards
Speaker 3: a little bit. We've seen that before with the quarterbacks
Speaker 3: that have that ability. But you know he's he's going
Speaker 3: to if he feels like he can make it. You know,
Speaker 3: if if it doesn't look clean to him, he's going
Speaker 3: to run.
Speaker 2: Let me ask he, Brian.
Speaker 4: And this is because you've watched him in college and
Speaker 4: the style of runner that he he is doesn't match.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't match his body type. No, he takes
Speaker 4: a lot of.
Speaker 3: His he doesn't know how he doesn't have to slap, he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't how to protect his body.
Speaker 4: Don't think he can hold up in an NFL career
Speaker 4: continuing to do what he's done to this point.
Speaker 3: No, No, he can't because he takes some wicked ass
Speaker 3: hits and he gets up. But you wonder. You know,
Speaker 3: early in the year he was dealing with the oblique
Speaker 3: or ribs or whatever it was. You know, he's on
Speaker 3: the sidelines. I got a big pad around him, and
Speaker 3: he's waiting, waiting, and then they take off the pad
Speaker 3: and he goes and plays, and it affected the way
Speaker 3: he played. They were not as good offensively when he
Speaker 3: was banged up. Yeah, I've seen him take some of
Speaker 3: the most violent shots, you know, and I'm thinking he's
Speaker 3: not getting up, and he gets up, and you know,
Speaker 3: he keeps playing. But he's a slightly built guy. He's tall,
Speaker 3: he's thin, and but he is so smooth running the ball.
Speaker 3: It's like he runs and it's seven yards and you're thinking, like,
Speaker 3: that doesn't look like a seven yard run. But that's
Speaker 3: how he plays. And he's got that feel for how
Speaker 3: to do when he gets to the side, to get the
Speaker 3: first and get out of bounce or you know, get
Speaker 3: what he needs, turn back up inside or make the
Speaker 3: read and all. So this is going to be a difficult,
Speaker 3: difficult matchup for the Cowboys again this week, and having
Speaker 3: to deal with the quarterback that runs. They haven't handled
Speaker 3: that very well this year.
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Speaker 2: Cowboys get five players into the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4: There were only I think I think I heard this
Speaker 4: morning there were only four teams with more Pro Bowl
Speaker 4: selections than the Dallas Cowboys, which is pretty remarkable to
Speaker 4: say that they've had the year that they have. But
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons, Brandon Aubrey, and Cavante.
Speaker 2: Turpin all make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4: Any surprises for you guys, either with guys that got
Speaker 4: in or maybe even some guys that you thought should
Speaker 4: have gotten in that did.
Speaker 5: Not give credits to where credits do. I'll start there
Speaker 5: with Cavante Turpin getting in. I think he's very well deserved.
Speaker 5: I think he's the best return specialist in the league.
Speaker 5: He'll be a first team All Pro. Looking at CD
Speaker 5: the year he had. That's great, Micah, that's great everything.
Speaker 5: Why is Jordan Lewis doing the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 6: What is this?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 5: All right, we got we got some numbers. I'm about
Speaker 5: to I'm about to go a little sick o. Can
Speaker 5: I go sick o?
Speaker 2: For a little bit, go for it.
Speaker 5: So four four corners made the Pro Bowl in the NFC.
Speaker 5: Of those four corners stacked up with Jordan Lewis, Jordan
Speaker 5: Lewis allowed the second least amount of receiving yards to
Speaker 5: those guys. I'll put that with the caveat that he
Speaker 5: got credited for that eighty.
Speaker 6: Six yard touchdown in Washington. He did, and I do not.
Speaker 5: Believe that that should be the case, but that's what
Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus gave him.
Speaker 6: So we're going to give it to him here.
Speaker 5: But if you want to throw that caveat, and I'm
Speaker 5: sure and there could be some caveats with some of
Speaker 5: these other guys, we'll put that there.
Speaker 6: When it comes to miss Tackles, I don't think the
Speaker 6: third least.
Speaker 3: I don't think Next Gen gave him that. I think
Speaker 3: they gave that one too.
Speaker 6: There were.
Speaker 2: Next year, right, I think they're winning.
Speaker 5: I think Hooker got that one in next year. It
Speaker 5: should have been Hooker. It should have been Hooker. In
Speaker 5: my opinion, miss tackles.
Speaker 19: For the story, Miss Tackles third least out of these
Speaker 19: guys we're talking Byron Murphy and Minnesota, JC Horn for Carolina,
Speaker 19: Jalen Johnson for the Bears, Devin Witherspoon for the Seahawks.
Speaker 5: Now, if it's a situation where they can only get
Speaker 5: in one nickel corner and they put in Devin Witherspoon
Speaker 5: over Jordan Lewis, I still don't agree with that.
Speaker 6: I don't agree with it.
Speaker 5: We're looking at Devin Witherspoon giving up five hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty six yards through the air compared to Jordan Lewis's
Speaker 5: four hundred and five. Byron Murphy gave up seven hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty. Like, what are we talking about here? Who's
Speaker 5: watching the film? Who's making these decisions? Put Jordan Lewis in?
Speaker 4: And to Marvin and Oversham, can I complicate your argument
Speaker 4: a little bit?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 4: Did you ever look at yards per per? I guess
Speaker 4: yards per rep.
Speaker 6: The reason why I say the exception, Well, no more.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out how you can do it
Speaker 4: as the number of yards they gave up based on
Speaker 4: the number of targets they got. Because as a nickel corner,
Speaker 4: maybe he played less meant less reps than some of
Speaker 4: the guys that played on the outside, which may have
Speaker 4: meant that he gave up fewer yards I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to see if that.
Speaker 2: Made a difference in the numbers that you were quoting there.
Speaker 5: I will say, of the five that we're talking about here,
Speaker 5: he had the second, uh, the second least amount of targets. Okay, JC,
Speaker 5: excuse me. Jayalen Johnson was the only one that had
Speaker 5: less target targets. Jaylon Johnson's the best corner in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not arguing Jalen Johnson here. I'm arguing Byron Murphy
Speaker 5: and Devin Witherspoon. I think Jordan Lewis is better than
Speaker 5: those two guys. I think he had a better year
Speaker 5: than those two guys. It's my opinion.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you this, regardless whether they made the
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl or not, and maybe maybe he still gets in.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you'll have guys that can't go or whatever.
Speaker 4: But regardless of that, what we know is this was,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, the best year he's had it in
Speaker 4: his career, which is which is something to say at
Speaker 4: the stay this stage of his career to still be ascending.
Speaker 4: I think it's been a phenomenal year for him. So
Speaker 4: I think all the accolades are due, and they're warranted.
Speaker 4: It's just when you start getting into this year, you're
Speaker 4: really splitting here when you.
Speaker 8: Start I don't think he's ever been in the Pro
Speaker 8: Bowl conversation. I think so in his career so far.
Speaker 8: So to your point, it is very impressive that we
Speaker 8: are actually having this conversation about him and the way
Speaker 8: that he's overcome everything that he's overcome and got into
Speaker 8: this point. So maybe that's not something to keep an
Speaker 8: eye on with backups and.
Speaker 2: What do they call them replacement.
Speaker 8: Replacements, because I know CEEDI lamb, I'm sure I would
Speaker 8: imagine he doesn't go.
Speaker 2: But you know that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Now, now that there's not an actual game, I wonder
Speaker 4: if more guys will be like, yeah, I'll show up
Speaker 4: to be able to do or I'll just show up
Speaker 4: to wear a ball cap and just like hang out with.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably gonna be a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know, there will be a lot of.
Speaker 4: Guys unless you literally have to have surgery or you
Speaker 4: got you know, some other committment you got to go to.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a free week to go hang out
Speaker 4: with with the other guys around the league. So my
Speaker 4: guess is that there will be a lot of people
Speaker 4: that that probably show.
Speaker 3: Up with.
Speaker 6: Maybe replaced.
Speaker 2: You think you just don't want care. He doesn't care.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go.
Speaker 9: Imagine playing Talk Award, you know.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying he might still go, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Because there is no game, he can still they do
Speaker 4: they do that?
Speaker 2: Like I guess that's the point, Like will they replace
Speaker 2: him for.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a player a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: I forget who, but he had just had an ankle
Speaker 5: surgery and he was on the sideline and crunches.
Speaker 4: Have games though, Like that's what I'm saying now that
Speaker 4: there's not games and everybody does everybody.
Speaker 2: Do something in some of the competition type stuff.
Speaker 4: I believe so because there's even a game show this year,
Speaker 4: so you don't have to necessary start. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 4: necessarily have to actually do anything physical to be a
Speaker 4: part of all a Pro Bowl week, Right.
Speaker 6: They should just do like a three on three basketball tournament.
Speaker 2: That's the last thing.
Speaker 3: JA, let's football again.
Speaker 4: Somebody wrecked his knee at the Sander Edwards Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: But justin Jefferson a running point.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's a I think it's a good
Speaker 4: showing for the Cowboys running after all that's happened this
Speaker 4: year for them to get five guys in.
Speaker 2: And I love it.
Speaker 4: For Brandon Aubrey, I think it's well deserved and I
Speaker 4: think it's not even close. He's the best kicker in
Speaker 4: the NFL and if I could get him at Texas,
Speaker 4: I would try very hard to do that if he's
Speaker 4: got some I texted you that.
Speaker 3: After the game. I said, congratulations, and think Aubrey's off
Speaker 3: next week? You can mini no.
Speaker 2: I literally was like, does he have anyellow?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: It's it's funny though, when nice when you get these kickers,
Speaker 3: and it's it comes down to it's like a forty
Speaker 3: eight yard field gold or a thirty eight yard field gold,
Speaker 3: and you're just you shouldn't be thinking about it. You
Speaker 3: should think about me celebrated and now that things are
Speaker 3: hooking and hitting off the uprights and you're like, it's
Speaker 3: thirty eight damn yards.
Speaker 2: Are if you can't do what are we doing thirty
Speaker 2: eight yard kicked?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 3: What? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 3: I mean, we need to spend some nil money on kickers.
Speaker 3: That's what we're going to do. Let's let's yeah, like, hey, listen.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Backup, quarterback, dude, you're not getting a
Speaker 3: million dollars. We're going to pay our kicker.
Speaker 2: Tell me what to send my money. I'm sending my money.
Speaker 2: I want to kick. Give me a kicker.
Speaker 3: That'd been awful to lose that game twice yesterday for Texas.
Speaker 3: If you if either one of those kicks, I mean,
Speaker 3: you lose that game and you drove into position both times,
Speaker 3: and you this and I mean that, that would have
Speaker 3: been a hard way to lose. Oh yeah, well me
Speaker 3: for Arizona State was a hard way to lose the
Speaker 3: game too. Yeah, fourth and fifteen.
Speaker 5: I watched the game from a sidecar social over here
Speaker 5: in the Star District supports the Star District, and whatever
Speaker 5: that field goal dooinked off the upright to end the game.
Speaker 5: You would have thought that, you know, something happened in there.
Speaker 5: You would have thought, like somebody passed out. They're like,
Speaker 5: oh my god. But the fourth and thirteen, I completely.
Speaker 6: I was like, this is over, this is it.
Speaker 4: I honestly, I'd gotten to a point where I was
Speaker 4: already thinking, Okay, how am I going to handle this?
Speaker 4: We're gonna lose this game, and I know I'm gonna
Speaker 4: start getting the text and the phone calls you all right,
Speaker 4: and I'm respawn or should I just ignore everybody? Should
Speaker 4: I turn off my phone and just walk away? And
Speaker 4: then obviously yeah, everything happens from that point and it's like, okay, great,
Speaker 4: we won.
Speaker 5: But man, I know this isn't talking longhorns but sending
Speaker 5: seven on fourth and thirteen.
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 5: What are you?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Honestly, we necessarily picked up, like when they said pressure, pressure,
Speaker 4: they had gotten there and they created some problems for
Speaker 4: I get the point of what they were trying to do.
Speaker 2: It just didn't work.
Speaker 3: Two stupid pills and a cup of Gatorade Game, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what, Jim han me my two stupid pills
Speaker 3: and a cup of game.
Speaker 2: But we are moving on long ones to the semi.
Speaker 9: Say no to drugs.
Speaker 4: If you guys join us, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 4: wrap this thing up. It'll be our final show of
Speaker 4: this season.
Speaker 2: Till then.
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