1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: and so much for that. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: with mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: It is Thursday, January second, twenty twenty five. Welcome to 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 4: the latest edition of The Break. We are alive from 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 4: the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the story. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: It's at the start. 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: We are presented by LGLG is the world's number one 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: OLED TV brand for eleven years in counting See why 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 4: at LG dot com. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: Forward slash o led Evo. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: It is our first show here of the twenty twenty 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: five year. Still got one game to finish out the 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season that comes up this Sunday. Cowboys 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: will face the Commanders here at at and T Stadium 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 4: at noon. But today we'll get you guys a little 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: more prepared for that game. Got a few topics we're 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: gonna hit today. We've got to talk about Zeke and 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 4: what seemed to me to be somewhat of a surprise 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 4: move that the Cowboys made, But we'll talk about that. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: We'll talk about the Pro Bowl selections. Cowboys got a 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: few guys into the Pro Bowl, if you guys are 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: surprised by any other people that were in or that 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: are not in. And then we'll get into the Washington offense. 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: Brian have a breakdown. 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure Nick's got some thoughts on this team and 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 4: their offense. Tomorrow we'll talk a little bit more about 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: the defense as we get you guys ready. 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: For the game. So let's start with Zeke. 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: We find out I think it was yesterday, all these 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: days of all run together, was yesterday, two days ago, 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: find out the. 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys were releasing him. 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: And my question, which I think most people know, but 40 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: I think it's worth the conversation. 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Why now? 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, for Ezekiel Elliott, he sees an opportunity to potentially 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: join a playoff team and he went to the organization saying, hey, 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 5: can I be released so I can be afforded that 45 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 5: opportunity in case it in case it arises, and uh, 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 5: the organization chose to let that happen, not that he 47 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 5: had been playing much in the last few weeks anyway, 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: So they released seek one on Tuesday. He cleared waivers yesterday, 49 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: and now he's free to sign with any team going 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 5: into the playoffs. I you know, I was trying to 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: think of teams that might be. 52 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: Needing a running back in the playoffs. 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: I can't really think of any I mean, you could 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: look at the Chargers and Detroit was my one thought. 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 5: If David Montgomery is not as healthy as maybe they 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 5: anticipate going into the playoffs, and that's maybe their short 57 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 5: yardage guy that they could bring in and you know, 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 5: mix in. But you know, how confident would another team 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: be based on, you know, the opportunities that he had 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: this year, the reports about him missing meetings and getting 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 5: left in uh left in Dallas during the Atlanta game. 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 6: I wonder how much that would factor. 63 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: In if if he had an opportunity that became serious. 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 5: But nevertheless, the return for Ezekiel Elliott overall, I think 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: it's it's fair to say that it was it was 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: a failure. It was it didn't quite work out in 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 5: the end. In the beginning, it looked great, you know, 68 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: we'd come out of that Cleveland game. He had forty 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 5: nine total yards in that game he had the hurdle 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: on the first play of from scrimmage. Everyone was like, okay, 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 5: he might have a little juice, and then that would 72 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 5: end up being not only the most yards he would 73 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 5: account for the rest of the season, but the most 74 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 5: touches he would get the rest of the season. And 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: it just kind of went downhill from there, the running 76 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: back by committee approach. I wonder how much that factored 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 5: into him not being able to find his rhythm. I 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of things you look at, but 79 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: in all, the number fifteen version of Ezekiel Elliott did 80 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: not work out here. 81 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Now, this is the first NFL version of the transfer 82 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: portal we've heard of. 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: Well, Dalwin Cook last year, are you talking about like 84 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: getting released right before the playoffs? 85 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? 86 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, Dalwin Cook last year? 87 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Or like, you know, there's a side of me that like, 88 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: I think that maybe we got some back channeling going 89 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: on here. Do you think somebody came in with the 90 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Rocky Arsenal and. 91 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: That you know, hey, if he was available, now the 92 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: guy's gone. 93 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: I could say this right, Yeah, okay, so maybe some 94 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: back channeling, like some say, hey, if you could get 95 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: them released, you maybe might take a look at him, 96 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: that kind of thing, clear waivers, that kind of thing. 97 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of things that are going 98 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: on here too. I think that maybe and this is 99 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: this is this is the conspiracy theories of me right now, 100 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: probably irresponsible. I kind of feel like that maybe that 101 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: that they were talking about that they were going to 102 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: play deuce on in this game, and maybe he was 103 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 3: going to be inactive. And you remember what happened when 104 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: they talked about him being inactive in the Atlanta week, 105 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: everything kind of went to hell. You know, He's like, 106 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: you know, oh well hey, you know, and then it 107 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: all came out about the miss meetings and things like that. 108 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: You know, all of a sudden, when he's not going 109 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: to be active, I don't want to be here anymore. 110 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: You know, go ahead and release me. It's all nice 111 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: and tidy and get on with a playoff team and 112 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: all that. You know, great, But I I if there 113 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: was some back channeling going on. You don't ask for 114 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: your releases late in the year unless you got something 115 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: going my opinion, Yeah, you know. 116 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: That's still as a game check you're missing, Yeah, exactly. 117 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: So there's you know, maybe the Cowboys can find out 118 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: there was some tampering going on here. Again, I'm not 119 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: it's Brian Broadest one O five three the fan, not 120 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, not it's my opinion. Sorry, okay, But yeah, 121 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: so that you know, maybe some back channeling going on, 122 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: we'll see. But maybe also too that they got to 123 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: the point where they were going to play they wanted 124 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: to see Deuce Fawn play, or they wanted to see 125 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: somebody else play, and Zeke Leveltt wasn't going to be 126 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: active this game. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying though, it 127 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: could be a situation where they did not want to 128 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: go through what they went through Atlanta week and they're 129 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: saying let's just move on. But it sounds really nice 130 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: and tidy that we'll get them an opportunity to get 131 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: on with a playoff team. You know. 132 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: You know one thing that that I just jumps out 133 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: to me is that I think this year we've seen 134 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: a resurgence of running backs around the NFL who were 135 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: guys that you. 136 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Take care of themself in the set. 137 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, in the second third contracts and they are 138 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: producing really well for teams this year. Do you think 139 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: that Zeke here, do you think that his lack of 140 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: production here was about other things, whether it was the 141 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: offensive line, whether it was the opportune Do you think 142 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: there were other things that were factored in or do 143 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: you think it's just he just doesn't have what he 144 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: once had. 145 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: There were go ahead, no, no really played. 146 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 5: There were there were multiple factors that I think played 147 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: into Zeke not being nearly as effective as even anyone 148 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 5: anticipated coming into the year. But I think it starts 149 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 5: with him off the field. It starts with what happened 150 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: off the field, him missing meetings, him losing support in 151 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: the locker room. I mean it starts there, and then 152 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 5: that stuff fizzles into when he actually does show up 153 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: to the meetings, when he actually does get onto the field. 154 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you look at that forty nine Ers game 155 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: and when Rico Daddle was ruled out for the illness 156 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: really late in Ezekiel Elliott starts in that game. 157 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 6: He didn't look comfortable the entire game. 158 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: I mean, you had Dalvin Cook getting worked in with 159 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 5: carries as well, But when Zeke had an opportunity, it 160 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 5: didn't work out because, in my opinion of what had 161 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 5: already been established off the field. 162 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: No, I think you're absolutely right about that. I mean 163 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: the guys you're talking about. They they you know, we 164 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: got to you know, Derrick Henry. They they give him 165 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: the award after a game the other day, like the 166 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: red Velvet cake, and he's like not interested. Thanks. There's 167 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: a guy that's kind of conscious of what he puts 168 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: in his body, you know what. You know, probably asleep, 169 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: probably spends a lot of money to take care of 170 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: himself so he can play at a very very high level. 171 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Zeke reminds me of me when I was age. I 172 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: had a great time in life. I absolutely had a 173 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: great time in life, you know, and a lot of 174 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: crazy things happened in my life at that time when 175 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: I was his age, So I understand it. I got 176 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: some Zeke in me. 177 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 6: Was that a church in New York with Bill Parcells? 178 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: No, No, that was a different trip. But but no, 179 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: but I'm serious. There's you know, guys have fun in life. 180 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: He had a lot of fun, you know, and I 181 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: think that finally caught up to him in a lot 182 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: of ways. And and so to me, uh, you know, 183 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: I I'm I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that it 184 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: didn't work out. I would be really interested if we 185 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: could do this, If Mike McCarthy, if you could get 186 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy on the on the side and asked Mike 187 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: McCarthy this question, did you really want Ezekiel Elliott here? 188 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: I wonder what Mike McCarthy would say, And maybe you 189 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: have to get Mike McCarthy when if he's no longer here, 190 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: you get him off at the side at the combine 191 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: or something like that and ask him that question. But 192 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: I really really wondered if this was a front office 193 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: driven thing, and then you know, and Mike was forced to, 194 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: you know, the San Francisco game, Okay, we're gonna we're 195 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: gonna load Zeke up here. You know, we're gonna. I'm 196 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: gonna show you, you know what that's all about. So 197 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: I think from the jump, just my opinion again that 198 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: maybe there was a divide between the front office and 199 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: the coaching staff on really what they what the vision was, 200 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: or what they wanted to do with Ezekiel Elliott, and 201 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: it never, for the entire season, never became anything of 202 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: any any substance. 203 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 8: I think right now, in my opinion, it would be very, 204 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 8: very difficult to really evaluate Zeke's position at the moment 205 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 8: and whether or not he would have been good and 206 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 8: productive for these offense, even though he did get some 207 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 8: chances at the beginning of the season, we saw what 208 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 8: the running game was there. It didn't matter who was 209 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 8: touching the ball and who was running. It just wasn't 210 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 8: working with what the offensive line was doing for you. 211 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 8: So right now, I do think if given the opportunity 212 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 8: in a better situation somewhere else, I can see him 213 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 8: being productive, still be productive. I think he needs a 214 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 8: change of scenery for sure, because you can take you 215 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 8: can see how off the field he wasn't the same 216 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 8: zek like he He wasn't the same goofy, happy guy 217 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 8: walking around. He didn't seem happy being here. And when 218 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 8: you hear about missing meetings and things like that, it's 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 8: very unlikely. It's it's not like. 220 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 9: Zeke, like the Zeke we used to know that was here. 221 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 8: And we saw even though he had that moment, his 222 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 8: crazy little moments here and there at the beginning of 223 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 8: his career, bring it up really quick. And he was 224 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 8: a leader in there, in the locker room. He always 225 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 8: stood in front of the media and always talked, and 226 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 8: he took care of business. He was practicing and did 227 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 8: what he needed to do. So whatever the reason may be. 228 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 9: And I saw it a training camp. 229 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 8: When he got there, he was putting in the work 230 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 8: and he was like focused and kind of a tunnel vision. 231 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 8: But it didn't pan out for him here. So I 232 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 8: hope that he can find that happiness again, because you 233 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 8: see it in a player. You see when someone has 234 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 8: success and then all of a sudden they're not having 235 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 8: that kind of same success or attention, And not that 236 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 8: he's looking for the attention like that like in front 237 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 8: of us or anything like that, or anything like that. 238 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 8: I don't know how to describe it, but you see 239 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 8: when someone's demeanor just changes. So hopefully he is able 240 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 8: to find another team and just have a little a 241 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 8: second chance, another a third chance, let's say, because this 242 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 8: would be what he was here in Dallas, went to 243 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 8: New England and then came back. So what would that be. 244 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 6: Fourth chance? 245 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 9: I don't know. 246 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 8: I still wish him good luck and well because we 247 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 8: know he deep down is a good guy. 248 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, This is a bigger picture question 249 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: based on what he's done here, because I think there 250 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: was a time I think people sat quickly forget how 251 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: good he was in twenty sixteen, and then those subsequent years, 252 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: he was really really bad. 253 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that all being said, do you think Zeke Kelly 254 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: is a Ring of Honor caliber player? 255 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: I had this conversation with someone a couple of days ago. 256 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: The thing is if you if you get him in, 257 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: it opens up a really much larger situation or conversation 258 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: about a lot of other players around him, because if 259 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: you put in Zeke, then you're putting in Dak, who 260 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: you know may or may not be worthy of that 261 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: by the end. And if you're putting in Dak, you're 262 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 5: putting in Romo, and you're putting in Romo, you're putting 263 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 5: in does put if you put in it's just it's 264 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: kind of a domino effect from there. 265 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 6: But if we're talking about Zeke in a vacuum, I 266 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: don't know. That's tough, it's hard. 267 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: I think he's one of those guys that you look 268 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: at his reduction and when he was good man, he 269 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: was really really, really good, but the longevity just wasn't there. 270 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 6: Dorset is in right, Yeah he is. Yeah, yeah, Well. 271 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 9: How many years do you need? How many? 272 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know that 273 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: there is a certain number. Because Charles Haley didn't. Yeah, 274 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: he didn't have a large body of work here. Now 275 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: you look at his overall career between here in San Francisco, 276 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: he obviously had a pretty decently long career, but he 277 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: didn't have a long time here in Dallas. 278 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: But then you look at somebody like Dion. 279 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: Dion I think had more years here than Charles Haley 280 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: did I think in the ring is he No, he's not. 281 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: I want to say, Dion's like five years here, six 282 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: years here, Brian, you remember. 283 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh look, but I don't know what I had for breakfast. 284 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: The whole point I'm making. The whole point I'm making. 285 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: I think he is a really, really tough one because 286 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: at the height he was as good as anybody that's 287 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: done it here absent obviously EMMTT Smith and probably Dorset. Uh, 288 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: but you know, other than that, Like, I just think 289 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 4: he had a really great couple three four years and 290 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: then it just kind of went away, And I just 291 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: wanted that's enough to get him in. 292 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 5: And we're talking an offensive rookie of the Year knocking 293 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: on the door of MVP a couple of seasons, two 294 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: time rushing leader. That's tough to do. I don't know 295 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: that'll be an interesting conversation one day. If it were me, 296 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 5: i'd put him in. 297 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just me. 298 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't think he's Hall of Fame, but I think 299 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: ring Van and he has a case. 300 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: There's the fifteen on there too, like like Kobe gets 301 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: the twenty four in the eight Yeah. 302 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: Eh. The question, the question that I would ask is, 303 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if he was as good as Calvin 304 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: Hill was. And I'm old enough to watch Calvin Hill. 305 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 2: I never watched Calvin Hill, but yet knew of him, 306 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: but I didn't. 307 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 3: Watch Calvin Hill was a big part of some championship 308 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: teams here, and so you know, you think about of 309 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: course you're gonna think about Emmitt Smith, you're gonna think 310 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: about Tony dor set. I personally me, I don't think 311 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: DeMarco Murray gets nearly enough credit for being a good 312 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: back here, you know. And so you know, am I 313 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: saying that Ziekh's better as you look at DeMarco Murray? Sure? 314 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: But I mean I Calvin Hill to me was just 315 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: as just as when you go back in the seventies 316 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: and watch him play, and you know, they played a 317 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: shorter schedule, not a lot of teams, but every time 318 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys needed a big game. Calvin Hill delivered, 319 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: you know, And and so that's kind of where I'm 320 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: I'm at. I think the I think the backs from 321 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: the previous era, you know, the seventies, the eighties and 322 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: then into the nineties, I think those backs are pretty special. 323 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: But you guys did a special on Mariam Barber. He 324 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: guys did a specially. You know, we've you've seen some 325 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: really quality backs go through here. Zeke, you know, he's 326 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: kind of probably the head of that group. But I 327 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: don't know if I could put him ahead of Calvin 328 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: Hill in my in my mind, and I'm the oldest 329 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: one here and saw Calvin Hill play, so I can 330 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: say that. 331 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: Yep, that's fair. And I do think they'll obviously that. 332 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: The interesting part is there's only one person, Jerry, that 333 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: decides the Ring of honor. 334 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 6: One person, Jerry, Yeah, right, yeah, And. 335 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: We know he's very fond of him as a person, 336 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: and uh, and I don't know if that colors the 337 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: decision or not. I have no idea when Jerry knows that, 338 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: but but we know he's very fond of of of 339 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: a Zeke. 340 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 10: So we'll see that. 341 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 8: I mean, we saw Jerry's statement that came out. But 342 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 8: do you think, given what has happened behind the scenes, 343 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 8: behind the curtains in this couple of months that Zeke 344 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 8: has been here, do you think the relationship has changed 345 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 8: or been damaged a little. 346 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: Bit or But I know of Jerry, I doubt that. 347 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: Not with the front office. Maybe with the coaches. 348 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: You can't hear any worse than some of those guys 349 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: that are in the Ring of Honor. And that's that's 350 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: not to discredit anybody that is in the ring. I'm 351 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: just there's there's been off the field issues with a 352 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: couple of those guys as well, and I don't think 353 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 5: a couple of them weren't about as zekes. 354 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: My thing is like, you just look at Jerry and 355 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: you look at his players. I think Jerry's very, very, 356 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: very loyal and those players that are his guys, they're 357 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: going to forever be his guys. I don't care what 358 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: happens because you look at somebody like dez Dez has 359 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: a lot of problems with a lot of people that 360 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: came through this building while he was here. You asked 361 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: you open the question about what he thinks about Jerry Jones, 362 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: and it is like he just loves the man, and 363 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: it's vice versas Jerry just loves him. 364 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: And it was some of those same. 365 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: Things that we've kind of been hearing about, you know, 366 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: the mis meetings all that. That was some of the 367 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: same stuff that was happening with Daz back in the day. 368 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: But the relationship is there between he and Jerry. It 369 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: might not be there with anybody else in this building, 370 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: but within him and Jerry, that relationship is there. So 371 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: I just I feel like Jerry just he keeps the 372 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: relationship with his guys and it just, for whatever reason, 373 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: it stays regardless of what the player goes through. You know, 374 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: there are a lot of guys around here who have 375 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: had careers and have had a lot of problems off 376 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: the field. Some of those guys are still working in 377 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: this building because Jerry just has loyalty for them, you know. 378 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: I just you know, if you I think if I 379 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: got this right, if you go in the stadium, you 380 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: have the pre nineteen eighty ninees on one side of 381 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: the stadium and the post nineteen eighty nine's on the 382 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: other side of the state. So yeah, there's a there's 383 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: a distinguishing line there that you know, that that you 384 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: can say, okay, well and then okay, you got guys that, 385 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: like you say, the Romos, the Does Bryants, the Jason Witten's. 386 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's Jerry them. Done a nice job 387 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: getting players to come through here, just hasn't turned into 388 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: the championships that you've seen on that opposite side of 389 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: the stadium. You know, you get eight men and Emmin 390 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: and Michael of course, but you know everybody else that 391 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: goes in now with that group on that on that side, 392 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: that's not going to be a super Bowl likely super 393 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: Bowl winning player that goes up in there. And and 394 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: now it turns into Nick is now watchdogging. You know, 395 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: when he goes to a stadium, he goes look at 396 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: these ring of honor dudes, Arizona is still. 397 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 9: Yeah there loves doing that. He loves every time we 398 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 9: look at. 399 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: Who's fright Tripuka here? Who's what did he do? So yeah, 400 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: you start watchdog and the other team spree of honor 401 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: and then it gets you to appreciate the ring of 402 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 3: honor you see ten times a year, you know when 403 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: you go into that stadium. 404 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 5: All right, I know we gotta go to break who 405 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: are some guys that are due though Witten is it 406 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: just Witting is is that the only home run Foreshore 407 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 5: will be up there one. 408 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 4: Day of the time that I've been here. Obviously, DeMarcus 409 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: is already in. I think Witten definitely gets in. Then 410 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: it becomes a situation of, like you said, if you 411 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: start letting in the Romo Romos, the des like those 412 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 4: are those were really good players, and I think they 413 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: were fan favorites, But I don't know if you put 414 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: them in the same category of the Triplets or of 415 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: you know, those guys that were great and they won championship. Yeah, 416 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 4: that's really just a hard thing. When you have a 417 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 4: franchise that's won five championships, then it's almost like without 418 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: a championship, it becomes very very difficult to get into 419 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: that upper echelon of players, right, And in some franchises 420 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 4: where they don't have that number of championships, it's a 421 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: little easier, and some of those guys who had really 422 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: great careers can get in because it's like, well, they 423 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: didn't have championships, but these other people didn't either, So 424 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 4: you know, I just think it's I think that's a 425 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: tough one. I look at Witne Witnes is the only 426 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: one for me that is a slam dunk. I don't 427 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: think there's anybody Well, I take that back, I take 428 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 4: that back. We're forgetting about the offensive lineman. Zach Martin 429 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: is a slam. 430 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Tyren Smith is probably a slam dunk. We're not talking 431 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: about the offensive line. 432 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 6: But I think those two guys, Yeah. 433 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: But those two guys added to wit and I think 434 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: those are the three players to me that are I 435 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: feel fairly certain they're going to end up in the 436 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor. 437 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 8: You answer your own question, what very your initial question 438 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 8: about Zeke? You just made the perfect. 439 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 6: Argument right there without. 440 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: Noting no, I think, but yeah, but Nick made the 441 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: point like if you put him in the got to 442 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: put it in a lot of other guys. And I 443 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: just I think longevity. Longevity matters, to be honest with you. 444 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 4: I think it's why Emmitt Smith is where he is 445 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: from the standpoint of just how he's recognized him obviously 446 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: being the leader in rushing yards in a career is 447 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: because of his longevity. Like he wasn't he wasn't killing 448 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: the league his last several years in the league. 449 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: He just kept doing it, kept doing it. 450 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: Over and over, and there's something to be said for 451 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 4: that in the sport where injuries are a part of it. 452 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: To be able to play that long, especially at a 453 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: position like that where you're taking hits every play, like, 454 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 4: I really think there's some value to that, and so 455 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 4: I think that's probably why he doesn't end up. 456 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: But who knows. 457 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: It's Jerry's call, So only Jerry knows. 458 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: It's gonna be interesting. 459 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's funny. I was trying to think of 460 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: how many Ring of Honor players are not Hall of 461 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: Fame members, and I was thinking of Don Perkins is 462 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: one of them. I know, I don't know if Don 463 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: Meredith is another one. It's very very. 464 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: Very few, rare Hall of Fame, so yeah, I think 465 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: he is. 466 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: I think that Perkins and Meredith might be the only 467 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: two tex Shrims in the Hall of gil Brandts in 468 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. I mean, yeah, it's it's a 469 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: very it's a it is a unique group of of 470 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: you know, so now you're going to get into some 471 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: situations woldn't will be a Hall of Famer well Romo 472 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: will you know, will others? That's if your standard is 473 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame players and executives. Then your man, your 474 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: list is going to be really really small from this 475 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: this current group of guys at the Cowboys half. 476 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 6: Is you're the only one in the Hall of Fame 477 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 6: that's not in the Ring of Honor right now. 478 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: Well the ring. I think Darren Woodson's the other one too. 479 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: By the way, now I think that Darren Woodson is 480 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: not in the Hall of Fame. 481 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: But correct, that's got to manifesting hopefully this. 482 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: So there's probably three guys that that were not that 483 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: are that are in the Ring of hondor that they're 484 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: not a Hall of Fame members. 485 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take our first break. 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How well do you think the 567 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: Dallas defense matched up against that Washington team in that 568 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 4: first matchup? 569 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: I felt like it was pretty good. I went back 570 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 3: and watched the game just to make sure, and what 571 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: they did was I like what Mike did with by 572 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: putting Micah Parsons as a three technique and working against 573 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: Nick Alagretti and Tyler Bottish and guys like that. So 574 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: he kind of figured out that those those guys were 575 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: going to struggle a little bit and they were able 576 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: to get some pressure that way. Golston did a really 577 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: nice job off the edge, you know, they were they 578 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: were able to kind of create pressures. And then zim 579 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: Are really like I said, he matched it up really good, 580 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: putting his best players on their poorest blockers when it came, 581 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: and there were a couple of times there were a 582 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: couple of sacks Nick and No you remember this where 583 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 3: Daniels is running outside the pocket, just unload the ball 584 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 3: instead he kind of goes out of bounce and you're like, okay, 585 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: thank you, sack. You know, sack. So yeah, this crew 586 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: is hat. If you go back and watch the Atlanta 587 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: game last week, this crew had problems with blitzing linebackers 588 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: and then also some secondary pressure and that's what Zim 589 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: did also too. We saw Wilson, you know, we saw 590 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: we saw Jordan Lewis rushing and all that. So there 591 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: was that that that the mug look, double a gap 592 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: blitz stuff where pressure was gonna come from. Really confused, 593 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: confused Daniels in that football game. His his reads weren't 594 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: as clear, and I think I think that he could 595 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: probably bet that we're going to see Michael Parsons move around, 596 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: and because they're banged up at right tackle, Andrew Wiley 597 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: has a growing problem. And so they used two different 598 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: right tackles last week, you know, with with Scott and Lucas, 599 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 3: and so it really wasn't as a good of a 600 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: good of a combination for them. Wiley has been really 601 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: good for them, So keep an eye on that, how 602 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: that position or how the offensive line works out. But 603 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: I think Zimmer's gonna hunt some matchups here Brandon Coleman, 604 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: the rookie hunts some matchups there, he's given up some sacks. 605 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: We think we talked about it last time we did 606 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: this game. That that I think that's where things could 607 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: could very well hinge for the Cowboys. 608 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 6: I can almost guarantee. 609 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 5: Leading up into that first matchup with Washington, Michael Parsons 610 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 5: went to Mike Zimmer and he was like, Hey, I 611 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 5: got something, line me up over Tyler Battish. 612 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 6: I know I can doe this guy. And I don't 613 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 6: know for sure, but I could. 614 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: I could almost bet on it that that is what 615 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 5: happened because you saw him generate inteer You're pressure more 616 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 5: than that game than he has in any other game 617 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 5: this year. Two sacks in that game for him and then, 618 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: like you said, sending pressure from the linebacking court, from 619 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 5: the secondary, uh it, it can. 620 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 6: Disrupt a rookie quarterback. 621 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 5: And you talk up with the double mug look as well, 622 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 5: we could look at jayde Daniels, we look at c J. Stroud, 623 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 5: we could look at Drew Locke. All these young quarterbacks 624 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: of this defense has gone up against this year. Throwing 625 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 5: that double mug disguise on them has given it has 626 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: given them issues and so I think you can expect 627 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 5: a little bit more of the same here. 628 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had some promise in the Atlanta games too, 629 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: and some of the others that I watched that doubt 630 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: was Blitz pick up with Brian Robinson. He was getting 631 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: knocked around a little bit. Brian Robinson's a good player. Yeah, yeah, 632 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: if you remember, if you yeah, if you remember, if 633 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: you remember, in the in the game, first carry of 634 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: the game against the Cowboys, he got twisted up. Mozzi 635 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: got in the backfield and he got twisted up and 636 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: it hurt his ankle and he really won. The same player. 637 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: They think they're going to get back, They think that 638 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: they might get back, uh uh Eckler. Yeah. So well 639 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: he's a big part of what they do. And he 640 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: did play that Cowboys, he did, and he got a 641 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: concussion in the game and hadn't played since, so he's 642 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: dealing with that. But this team loves to throw the 643 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: ball down the field, especially with Terry McLaurin. He is 644 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: going to make plays down the field, and they love 645 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: to throw screens. Get ready for the wide receiver screens 646 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: and get ready for the running back screens because they're 647 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: going to screen you to death to kind of see 648 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: if they can hold that rushing place. 649 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: When you talk about the rushing game, Jayden Daniels rush 650 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: for seventy four yards on seven carries against the Cowboys. 651 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: No other player game more than twenty two rushing yards 652 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: that game. Between Eckler and Robinson, how do you think 653 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: they can better contain Daniels based on what they did 654 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: in that first game? 655 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: Or is this one? 656 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 4: Is this a situation where you like, as long as 657 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: you stop those other guys, you can be okay with 658 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: him having some yards as he did in this game where. 659 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: The Cowboys ended up with the win, said Eckler. 660 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, how do you Daniel's if I'm. 661 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 662 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 5: With with Daniel's eye, I think it's just sealing the edge. 663 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 5: I think it's containing the edge, keeping him in the 664 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: pocket as much as possible, And I think they did 665 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: a good job of that in that first the first matchup, 666 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 5: he did get away for a couple of runs, especially 667 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: there in the fourth quarter where things got crazy, he 668 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: got away for one. I think of that touchdown drive 669 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: that they had that led to the turp in return. 670 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 5: I look at that and I see a couple of 671 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: Big Daniels runs. But aside from that, they did a 672 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 5: good job keeping him in the pocket, keeping him contained, 673 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: and they got four sacks on him, and that it 674 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 5: was a really good job by guys like Chauncey Golston, 675 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: by guys like marshn England wasn't back for that game, 676 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 5: Michael Parsons whenever he was lined up on the edge, 677 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 5: being able to contain the edge and get. 678 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 6: But yeah, I would have to say. 679 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: Just continue to contain him, don't let him go outside 680 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 5: of the pocket, because that's when he can make things 681 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 5: really dangerous. 682 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 6: He did that against Philly. 683 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 5: Philly didn't do a good job of keeping him contained, 684 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: and you saw him use his athleticism not only in 685 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 5: scampering away but also throwing on the run. 686 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 6: He's he's a Heisman winner for a reason. 687 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 8: Go Tigers question their position in the playoffs? 688 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 9: Do they have it? Like? Does this game change anything? 689 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: They need to win because if they win, there the 690 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: sixth seed, which means they go play the Rams. If 691 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: they lose in green Bay wins, they can fall to 692 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: seven and then that way then green Bay would the 693 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: green Bay would be the sixth seeds. 694 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: So they're playing in but they. 695 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 9: Have, Yeah, the position. 696 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: They're either going to play the Rams or the Eagles. 697 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: That's why if you listen to dan Quinn talk, he's 698 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: he's adamant about trying to play this game and win 699 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: because he wants to stay in the sixth seed is 700 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: what he wants to do. He would rather he would 701 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: rather deal with the Rams in indoor climate control conditions 702 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: that he would have to make a trip to Philadelphia again. 703 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: And that's like they're playing. 704 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's that's where that's where this is 705 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: at right now. So they're gonna play. They're gonna play 706 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: to try. Now there comes to a level where all 707 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: of a sudden how much you're willing to play to win? 708 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: You know what if you get behind and all of 709 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: a sudden, then you start losing, you start to lose 710 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: players then and then that quickly that playing the win 711 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: bit turns into no, we're not playing anymore. But he's 712 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: come out and set. He's trying to make sure that 713 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: seating is important to him. Did he make sure that 714 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: his team is seated in the best possible spot. And 715 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I'll take my chances 716 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: playing the Rams that I would the Eagles. Yeah, you know, 717 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: I'll take my chances. 718 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 6: Help the Eagles team because they're going to be resting 719 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 6: this week. 720 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, and they're just playing well right now. That's 721 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: the herd they are. 722 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 4: They are one of those teams that's going to be 723 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: a factor, I think in the playoffs. So yeah, if 724 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: you want to if you can avoid playing them the 725 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: first round, you probably want to avoid playing them that early. 726 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 4: What do you guys expect as far as how you 727 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: how you uh? Or who will be playing opposite Bland? 728 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: And knowing what you're talking about with McLaren, is this 729 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: a situation where. 730 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: He plays a lot? He plays? 731 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: Would you think about having Bland travel with McLaren just 732 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: because he's their best receiver by far? 733 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: Sure? 734 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: And Bland is your best corner by far. 735 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: He did last week with Brown, Yeah, they finally traveled, 736 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 5: but I think it came to a situation where they 737 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: had seven corners on. 738 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: The keys can play though too for them. Yeah, you know, true, 739 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: he's he's he had a good game, and Brown they've 740 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: got some receivers and so yeah, I mean to me, 741 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: it's you're you're, you're you're in a bad spot. You're 742 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: in a bad spot. At that cornerback, you know, unless 743 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: you want to, like we've talked about here for the 744 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: last several weeks, is if you just say, Okay, we're 745 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: playing is he on the outside and we're to play 746 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: Lewis on the inside, and occasionally we're gonna flip because 747 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: you're not going to get Terry McLaurin in the in 748 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: the in the slot that much. He plays outside primarily, 749 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 3: his all his routes are on the outside. So you know, 750 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: they they they're going to try and find a way 751 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: to match him up on whoever your corner is opposite 752 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: or bland if that's the case, traveling, you know, travel 753 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: travel bland and just and just hope the hell that 754 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 3: everybody else can hold up, you know. 755 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 5: And I'm hoping keim On Hall is ready to go. 756 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 5: I want to see him, but I'm hoping he's ready 757 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 5: to go for this one. 758 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to just see him out there. 759 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: I just want to see what he can do. I mean, 760 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: I think he has some moments during training camp in 761 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: the preseason. Be nice just to see what he can do. 762 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 5: Had that pick six against Vegas, I remember that one specifically. 763 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 5: That's probably the reason he made the team. Or the 764 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: practice squad. 765 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 9: Rather coming off a hamstring doesn't sound very promising. 766 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 6: Especially one. 767 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: So going into. 768 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 8: That, Yeah, you guys want to be excited about this guy, 769 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 8: but I'm saying, like he not hamstre seven. 770 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: Let us have some enjoy it, right, I'll tell you what, Derek, 771 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: you know you and if I can circle back on 772 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: the whole thing with Daniels, you're not going to stop 773 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: him running the ball. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen 774 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: it all. I've seen it his l s U years. 775 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: I've seen it here. Now, you know, the the the 776 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: hope is that the hope is that you you could 777 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: find a way to kind of make him play backwards 778 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: a little bit. We've seen that before with the quarterbacks 779 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: that have that ability. But you know he's he's going 780 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: to if he feels like he can make it. You know, 781 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: if if it doesn't look clean to him, he's going 782 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 3: to run. 783 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: Let me ask he, Brian. 784 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: And this is because you've watched him in college and 785 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 4: the style of runner that he he is doesn't match. 786 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: But it doesn't match his body type. No, he takes 787 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 4: a lot of. 788 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: His he doesn't know how he doesn't have to slap, he. 789 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't how to protect his body. 790 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: Don't think he can hold up in an NFL career 791 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: continuing to do what he's done to this point. 792 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: No, No, he can't because he takes some wicked ass 793 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: hits and he gets up. But you wonder. You know, 794 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 3: early in the year he was dealing with the oblique 795 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: or ribs or whatever it was. You know, he's on 796 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: the sidelines. I got a big pad around him, and 797 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: he's waiting, waiting, and then they take off the pad 798 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: and he goes and plays, and it affected the way 799 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: he played. They were not as good offensively when he 800 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: was banged up. Yeah, I've seen him take some of 801 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 3: the most violent shots, you know, and I'm thinking he's 802 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 3: not getting up, and he gets up, and you know, 803 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: he keeps playing. But he's a slightly built guy. He's tall, 804 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: he's thin, and but he is so smooth running the ball. 805 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: It's like he runs and it's seven yards and you're thinking, like, 806 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: that doesn't look like a seven yard run. But that's 807 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: how he plays. And he's got that feel for how 808 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 3: to do when he gets to the side, to get the 809 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: first and get out of bounce or you know, get 810 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: what he needs, turn back up inside or make the 811 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 3: read and all. So this is going to be a difficult, 812 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: difficult matchup for the Cowboys again this week, and having 813 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: to deal with the quarterback that runs. 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But 886 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 4: Tyler Smith, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons, Brandon Aubrey, and Cavante. 887 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: Turpin all make the Pro Bowl. 888 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: Any surprises for you guys, either with guys that got 889 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: in or maybe even some guys that you thought should 890 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 4: have gotten in that did. 891 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 5: Not give credits to where credits do. I'll start there 892 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 5: with Cavante Turpin getting in. I think he's very well deserved. 893 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 5: I think he's the best return specialist in the league. 894 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 5: He'll be a first team All Pro. Looking at CD 895 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 5: the year he had. That's great, Micah, that's great everything. 896 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 5: Why is Jordan Lewis doing the Pro Bowl? 897 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 6: What is this? 898 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: What is this? 899 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 6: Okay? 900 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 5: All right, we got we got some numbers. I'm about 901 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 5: to I'm about to go a little sick o. Can 902 00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 5: I go sick o? 903 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 2: For a little bit, go for it. 904 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 5: So four four corners made the Pro Bowl in the NFC. 905 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: Of those four corners stacked up with Jordan Lewis, Jordan 906 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 5: Lewis allowed the second least amount of receiving yards to 907 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 5: those guys. I'll put that with the caveat that he 908 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 5: got credited for that eighty. 909 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 6: Six yard touchdown in Washington. He did, and I do not. 910 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 5: Believe that that should be the case, but that's what 911 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus gave him. 912 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 6: So we're going to give it to him here. 913 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 5: But if you want to throw that caveat, and I'm 914 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 5: sure and there could be some caveats with some of 915 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 5: these other guys, we'll put that there. 916 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 6: When it comes to miss Tackles, I don't think the 917 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 6: third least. 918 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: I don't think Next Gen gave him that. I think 919 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: they gave that one too. 920 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 6: There were. 921 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 2: Next year, right, I think they're winning. 922 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 5: I think Hooker got that one in next year. It 923 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 5: should have been Hooker. It should have been Hooker. In 924 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 5: my opinion, miss tackles. 925 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 19: For the story, Miss Tackles third least out of these 926 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 19: guys we're talking Byron Murphy and Minnesota, JC Horn for Carolina, 927 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 19: Jalen Johnson for the Bears, Devin Witherspoon for the Seahawks. 928 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 5: Now, if it's a situation where they can only get 929 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 5: in one nickel corner and they put in Devin Witherspoon 930 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 5: over Jordan Lewis, I still don't agree with that. 931 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 6: I don't agree with it. 932 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 5: We're looking at Devin Witherspoon giving up five hundred and 933 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 5: thirty six yards through the air compared to Jordan Lewis's 934 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 5: four hundred and five. Byron Murphy gave up seven hundred 935 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 5: and twenty. Like, what are we talking about here? Who's 936 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 5: watching the film? Who's making these decisions? Put Jordan Lewis in? 937 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 4: And to Marvin and Oversham, can I complicate your argument 938 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: a little bit? 939 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 940 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: Please? 941 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: Did you ever look at yards per per? I guess 942 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: yards per rep. 943 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 6: The reason why I say the exception, Well, no more. 944 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out how you can do it 945 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 4: as the number of yards they gave up based on 946 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 4: the number of targets they got. Because as a nickel corner, 947 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 4: maybe he played less meant less reps than some of 948 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 4: the guys that played on the outside, which may have 949 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: meant that he gave up fewer yards I'm just trying 950 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 4: to see if that. 951 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: Made a difference in the numbers that you were quoting there. 952 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 5: I will say, of the five that we're talking about here, 953 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 5: he had the second, uh, the second least amount of targets. Okay, JC, 954 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 5: excuse me. Jayalen Johnson was the only one that had 955 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 5: less target targets. Jaylon Johnson's the best corner in the NFL. 956 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not. 957 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 5: I'm not arguing Jalen Johnson here. I'm arguing Byron Murphy 958 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 5: and Devin Witherspoon. I think Jordan Lewis is better than 959 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 5: those two guys. I think he had a better year 960 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 5: than those two guys. It's my opinion. 961 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you this, regardless whether they made the 962 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl or not, and maybe maybe he still gets in. 963 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you'll have guys that can't go or whatever. 964 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 4: But regardless of that, what we know is this was, 965 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 4: in my opinion, the best year he's had it in 966 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: his career, which is which is something to say at 967 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 4: the stay this stage of his career to still be ascending. 968 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 4: I think it's been a phenomenal year for him. So 969 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 4: I think all the accolades are due, and they're warranted. 970 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 4: It's just when you start getting into this year, you're 971 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 4: really splitting here when you. 972 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 8: Start I don't think he's ever been in the Pro 973 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 8: Bowl conversation. I think so in his career so far. 974 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 8: So to your point, it is very impressive that we 975 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 8: are actually having this conversation about him and the way 976 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 8: that he's overcome everything that he's overcome and got into 977 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 8: this point. So maybe that's not something to keep an 978 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 8: eye on with backups and. 979 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: What do they call them replacement. 980 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 8: Replacements, because I know CEEDI lamb, I'm sure I would 981 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 8: imagine he doesn't go. 982 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: But you know that's the thing. 983 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: Now, now that there's not an actual game, I wonder 984 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 4: if more guys will be like, yeah, I'll show up 985 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 4: to be able to do or I'll just show up 986 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 4: to wear a ball cap and just like hang out with. 987 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: I think it's probably gonna be a lot of guys. 988 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, there will be a lot of. 989 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 4: Guys unless you literally have to have surgery or you 990 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 4: got you know, some other committment you got to go to. 991 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a free week to go hang out 992 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 4: with with the other guys around the league. So my 993 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 4: guess is that there will be a lot of people 994 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 4: that that probably show. 995 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: Up with. 996 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 6: Maybe replaced. 997 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: You think you just don't want care. He doesn't care. 998 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 2: I don't want to go. 999 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 9: Imagine playing Talk Award, you know. 1000 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: But I'm saying he might still go, is what I'm saying. 1001 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 4: Because there is no game, he can still they do 1002 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 4: they do that? 1003 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: Like I guess that's the point, Like will they replace 1004 00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 2: him for. 1005 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a player a couple of years ago. 1006 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 5: I forget who, but he had just had an ankle 1007 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 5: surgery and he was on the sideline and crunches. 1008 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 4: Have games though, Like that's what I'm saying now that 1009 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 4: there's not games and everybody does everybody. 1010 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 2: Do something in some of the competition type stuff. 1011 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 4: I believe so because there's even a game show this year, 1012 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 4: so you don't have to necessary start. Yeah, you don't 1013 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 4: necessarily have to actually do anything physical to be a 1014 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 4: part of all a Pro Bowl week, Right. 1015 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 6: They should just do like a three on three basketball tournament. 1016 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: That's the last thing. 1017 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 3: JA, let's football again. 1018 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 4: Somebody wrecked his knee at the Sander Edwards Yeah, yeah. 1019 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 6: But justin Jefferson a running point. 1020 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's a I think it's a good 1021 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 4: showing for the Cowboys running after all that's happened this 1022 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 4: year for them to get five guys in. 1023 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: And I love it. 1024 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: For Brandon Aubrey, I think it's well deserved and I 1025 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 4: think it's not even close. He's the best kicker in 1026 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 4: the NFL and if I could get him at Texas, 1027 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 4: I would try very hard to do that if he's 1028 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 4: got some I texted you that. 1029 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: After the game. I said, congratulations, and think Aubrey's off 1030 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 3: next week? You can mini no. 1031 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: I literally was like, does he have anyellow? 1032 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 4: You know? 1033 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 3: It's it's funny though, when nice when you get these kickers, 1034 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: and it's it comes down to it's like a forty 1035 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 3: eight yard field gold or a thirty eight yard field gold, 1036 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 3: and you're just you shouldn't be thinking about it. You 1037 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: should think about me celebrated and now that things are 1038 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 3: hooking and hitting off the uprights and you're like, it's 1039 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 3: thirty eight damn yards. 1040 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: Are if you can't do what are we doing thirty 1041 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: eight yard kicked? 1042 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 5: Then? 1043 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 3: What? Yeah? 1044 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 1045 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we need to spend some nil money on kickers. 1046 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,919 Speaker 3: That's what we're going to do. Let's let's yeah, like, hey, listen. 1047 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 1048 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Backup, quarterback, dude, you're not getting a 1049 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 3: million dollars. We're going to pay our kicker. 1050 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 2: Tell me what to send my money. I'm sending my money. 1051 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: I want to kick. Give me a kicker. 1052 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: That'd been awful to lose that game twice yesterday for Texas. 1053 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 3: If you if either one of those kicks, I mean, 1054 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 3: you lose that game and you drove into position both times, 1055 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 3: and you this and I mean that, that would have 1056 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 3: been a hard way to lose. Oh yeah, well me 1057 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 3: for Arizona State was a hard way to lose the 1058 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 3: game too. Yeah, fourth and fifteen. 1059 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 5: I watched the game from a sidecar social over here 1060 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 5: in the Star District supports the Star District, and whatever 1061 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 5: that field goal dooinked off the upright to end the game. 1062 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 5: You would have thought that, you know, something happened in there. 1063 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 5: You would have thought, like somebody passed out. They're like, 1064 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 5: oh my god. But the fourth and thirteen, I completely. 1065 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 6: I was like, this is over, this is it. 1066 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 4: I honestly, I'd gotten to a point where I was 1067 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 4: already thinking, Okay, how am I going to handle this? 1068 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 4: We're gonna lose this game, and I know I'm gonna 1069 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 4: start getting the text and the phone calls you all right, 1070 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 4: and I'm respawn or should I just ignore everybody? Should 1071 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 4: I turn off my phone and just walk away? And 1072 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 4: then obviously yeah, everything happens from that point and it's like, okay, great, 1073 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 4: we won. 1074 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,240 Speaker 5: But man, I know this isn't talking longhorns but sending 1075 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 5: seven on fourth and thirteen. 1076 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: Thank you? 1077 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 5: What are you? 1078 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 2: Thank you? 1079 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 4: Honestly, we necessarily picked up, like when they said pressure, pressure, 1080 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 4: they had gotten there and they created some problems for 1081 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 4: I get the point of what they were trying to do. 1082 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: It just didn't work. 1083 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 3: Two stupid pills and a cup of Gatorade Game, I'll 1084 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: tell you what, Jim han me my two stupid pills 1085 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 3: and a cup of game. 1086 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 2: But we are moving on long ones to the semi. 1087 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 9: Say no to drugs. 1088 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 4: If you guys join us, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll 1089 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 4: wrap this thing up. It'll be our final show of 1090 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 4: this season. 1091 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: Till then. 1092 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 4: For Nick Harris, Brian brot us In Ambergarci, I'm Derek Eagleton. 1093 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 4: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 1094 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 4: Com Radio. 1095 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1096 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club