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Speaker 1: to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hi,
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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry. This is the Stuff you should know.
Speaker 1: H that was my Isaac Newton press. Really yeah, you
Speaker 1: didn't have an accent, that was That's what he sounded like. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's very it's a very common misconception that British people
Speaker 1: in the seventeenth century sound like British people today. They
Speaker 1: actually sounded exactly like how I existed. All right, well
Speaker 1: you did extra research, then it's pretty good. Let's travel
Speaker 1: back in time. We we just had a nice ten
Speaker 1: minute discussion Jerry and you and I about or me? Alright, uh,
Speaker 1: who cares? Yeah, about pop culture things that we've ingested
Speaker 1: since our break six weeks ago. Yep, And that could
Speaker 1: be a show. Everyone wants to know what we watched
Speaker 1: and absorbed and how we feel about it, but they
Speaker 1: never will. We talked about making of a Murderer or
Speaker 1: making a Murderer. We talked about Hateful Eight and Star
Speaker 1: Wars and The Revenant. People want to know, but they
Speaker 1: never will. You gotta keep him mysterious, right, guys, that's right.
Speaker 1: And all this leads to Isaac Newton, who it was.
Speaker 1: So you know, um Wolf from Science World. Who Wolf
Speaker 1: from Science World. It's a very very bona fide science website.
Speaker 1: No dumbing down there it so Wolf from put it
Speaker 1: like this, He's the bomb dignity. It is no, it
Speaker 1: is no exaggeration to say that Isaac Newton is the
Speaker 1: single most important contributor to the development of modern science.
Speaker 1: And Wolf from Science World knows what they're talking about
Speaker 1: when it comes to contributors to science. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I will agree with that, even though we will see
Speaker 1: he was many things, including a little screwy, super screwy.
Speaker 1: But um, what I gathered after researching this dude, is
Speaker 1: that science this is seventeenth century stuff going on. Science
Speaker 1: was the wild West. And he came in like a
Speaker 1: sheriff and basically brought order and discipline and said, this
Speaker 1: is the way we should do things if we want
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously, guys, varmints. Um, you can't just
Speaker 1: say things like the world's flat. You gotta prove it
Speaker 1: or or this is kind of the thinking. And he
Speaker 1: really kind of rose to prominence while the scientific revolution
Speaker 1: was already going, but he very much contributed to it
Speaker 1: because still at the time you could be like, well,
Speaker 1: the uh, the Earth spins because God spun it and
Speaker 1: it is God's will, and like people would be like,
Speaker 1: absolutely scientist. Not the case after Newton came along. Now
Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta prove the stuff. There's gotta be
Speaker 1: a method in place, you gotta test things again. And
Speaker 1: again he was I didn't know this. He was one
Speaker 1: of the or if not the first person to average data. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did they do before that? Just cherry pick something?
Speaker 1: Probably they're like, oh, that looks like the nice round number.
Speaker 1: I'll go, I'll use this one. So like, if he measured,
Speaker 1: say the how long a top spun because that's what
Speaker 1: scientists measure a lot of top spinning. Um, if he
Speaker 1: measured it four or five times, then he got different
Speaker 1: measurements every time. Yeah, I guess before they would just
Speaker 1: pick whatever when they like the most. It just seems
Speaker 1: so he was the first one to average. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: just seems so second nature to think while averaging something
Speaker 1: is what you should do, But back then it wasn't. No,
Speaker 1: and that's that's so that came up a lot while
Speaker 1: I was reading this article. It's a very good article
Speaker 1: by Jacob Silverman one on Jeopardy. Pretty yeah, um he
Speaker 1: uh he he. The way that he portrayed Newton. I
Speaker 1: think it gets across that we take Newton's work so
Speaker 1: for granted these days as just that's the way the
Speaker 1: universe works. That to think otherwise, it's just totally alien
Speaker 1: to us. And it's that's just such evidence of how
Speaker 1: much that man single handedly changed the world. But you
Speaker 1: also can't say single handedly he's His genius is unequivocal, right,
Speaker 1: But he also did definitely stand on the backs of giants,
Speaker 1: on the shoulders of giants, people who came before him,
Speaker 1: a sis, and the work of his peers. But he
Speaker 1: also like to take a lot of the credit for himself,
Speaker 1: sometimes unnecessarily. He was a very complex man. He was
Speaker 1: a scientist who deeply believed in God. He believed that
Speaker 1: you that there was law in order that could be deduced,
Speaker 1: that could be investigated, but it was orderly and rational,
Speaker 1: because God was an orderly, rational creator. Yeah, he saw
Speaker 1: logic and he thought God was that logic. He also
Speaker 1: thought that the stuff that he was uncovering was actually
Speaker 1: ancient wisdom that was being recovered from pre Christian civilizations.
Speaker 1: That's it gets a little screwy. Yeah, that had um
Speaker 1: kind of da Vinci coded, uh, this knowledge in things
Speaker 1: like pyramids and stuff like that, and that he was
Speaker 1: hand selected as a select view to uncover this knowledge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so much so that he made he made a name
Speaker 1: for himself, Chuck. And once you start to really investigate Newton,
Speaker 1: you can just kind of see him like tittering to
Speaker 1: himself as he's talking to himself in his chambers at Cambridge,
Speaker 1: calling himself this out loud to an empty room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He changed his name or didn't change it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He had a special name for himself, Jehovah
Speaker 1: Sanctus Unice, which means Jehovah the Holy One. And he
Speaker 1: he got that name by rolling a twenty sided die
Speaker 1: several times. So that was his special uh. I guess
Speaker 1: Council of of Unique Scientists, like a league of extraordinary gentleman.
Speaker 1: That was a super hero name. Yeah, and he was.
Speaker 1: He was an alchemist as well. He very seriously pursued
Speaker 1: the study of turning plain old metal into gold of um,
Speaker 1: finding long life Elixer's. He was a very complex man,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people like to put him in
Speaker 1: in this this um rational scientists compartment as like how
Speaker 1: we view scientists today typically, And he wasn't that. You
Speaker 1: just can't look at science the same in the seventeenth
Speaker 1: century as you do today, No, because different. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like this guy was helping form science today, and at
Speaker 1: the time it was he was seeking answers to the
Speaker 1: universe where ever there it was. There weren't many boundaries
Speaker 1: to him, Like if he could come to conclusions about
Speaker 1: the universe through weird mysticism, then whatever. He still came
Speaker 1: to the same conclusions that he did through mathematics, which
Speaker 1: by the way, a major part of of which he
Speaker 1: helped develop single handedly. Almost. Yeah, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: weird time because you could on one hand, be a
Speaker 1: very rational thinker and say you have to prove this,
Speaker 1: but you can also say that lady didn't float, so
Speaker 1: she's a witch and that's why she drowned, and and
Speaker 1: be completely like normal, say it with a straight face. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was like like Newton, like I can turn this
Speaker 1: mercury into gold, right, there's an elixir that will let
Speaker 1: you live forever. And I can also say you should
Speaker 1: average data and write the principia. Right, I can also
Speaker 1: literally discover gravity, like there was no such thing as
Speaker 1: gravity as far as humans were concerned before Isaac Newton
Speaker 1: came along. All right, that's a great setup. That was
Speaker 1: even better than our field. So January four, which is
Speaker 1: yesterday in real time, was his actual birthday? Did not
Speaker 1: know that? Weird timing? Um, it depends on the calendar.
Speaker 1: Depends on the calendar Christmas Day or January four, right, yes,
Speaker 1: but like a year apart rather than like a week
Speaker 1: or so apart. Right, Because one of the great myths
Speaker 1: is that he was born on Galileo's the day he
Speaker 1: Galileo died, which means that he's not true, right. Galileo
Speaker 1: reincarnated is what people say. It's some people catch you,
Speaker 1: some people like Isaac Newton. Probably I don't think he
Speaker 1: said that, but yeah, that was using the old Julian calendar.
Speaker 1: When you use the Gregorian calendar, his birthday was actually
Speaker 1: Jane uh, January four of the following year, or no
Speaker 1: of the year before. I think, oh wow, he got younger.
Speaker 1: No of the same year. So like if he was
Speaker 1: born in December twenty on one calendar. For the other calendar,
Speaker 1: he would go back in time to the beginning ing
Speaker 1: of that same year, so almost a year apart. And
Speaker 1: the reason that there is a weird discrepancy is um
Speaker 1: in fifteen eighty two the Catholic nations converted from the
Speaker 1: Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar, full hundred or so
Speaker 1: years before Newton, or a little less than hundred years,
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until the seventeen fifties that the British
Speaker 1: Isles Protestants converted to that Gregorian or Catholic calendar. We
Speaker 1: should do one of calendars. Oh, we definitely should. More
Speaker 1: complex than you think. But in the in in the
Speaker 1: in the continent, and in Great Britain or in the UK,
Speaker 1: um they I don't know still after all these years.
Speaker 1: So it's Great Britain in Northern Ireland, right, the United
Speaker 1: Kingdom and Northern Ireland. I'm just gonna let you go
Speaker 1: down this road anyway. Uh. They used to notate dates
Speaker 1: with um old style and new style, depending on what calendar.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the whole discrepancy between his birthday. No,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, Oh it sure it does. Uh, all right,
Speaker 1: so let's go back in time. Let's get in the
Speaker 1: way back machine and go back to one of those
Speaker 1: two days depending on our calendar that we have in
Speaker 1: the way back machine. How it's programmed, well, the way
Speaker 1: back machines programmed to um Gregorian. So it's fine. Great. Uh,
Speaker 1: So we are back when he was born as a
Speaker 1: little baby. He was a premature and very sickly. And
Speaker 1: here's how things can go in the world. He wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to live. And like, what would the world have
Speaker 1: been like without Isaac Newton? Pretty dark? Yeah, or at
Speaker 1: least it would have taken them longer. Maybe, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it just would have been someone else, like the clapper
Speaker 1: would have been invented, but we would just assume it
Speaker 1: worked because God willed it too. That's right. Born uh
Speaker 1: in eighteen I'm sorry, sixteen forty three, not eight um.
Speaker 1: He was from a family of farmers that did pretty
Speaker 1: well for themselves, although his dad, Isaac died before a
Speaker 1: few months before he was born, and was an illiterate
Speaker 1: farmer who was successful at his work, but very big
Speaker 1: that his father died before he was born. Because he
Speaker 1: never quite got over that. He ended up um living
Speaker 1: for a short time with his mother and new stepdad,
Speaker 1: Reverend Barnabas Smith. But he sounded like a jerk who
Speaker 1: did not like Isaac said, I cast the out, And
Speaker 1: he was cast out and lived with his maternal grandmother
Speaker 1: for nine years from age three to twelve. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it was pretty much raised by his maternal grandmother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was apparently old enough to realize what was
Speaker 1: going on, because the any psychoanalyst would have a field
Speaker 1: day with Newton, because he grew up to be a
Speaker 1: very insecure man who had a tremendous amount of difficulty
Speaker 1: trusting people because he's rejected, yes by his mother. Um
Speaker 1: and who who who suffered from what you would probably
Speaker 1: call these days hostile attribution bias, where the any any
Speaker 1: slight or something was clearly intended by the other party.
Speaker 1: Everybody else was hostile and out. Again, I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: making a paranoid but just any slight was intentional, even
Speaker 1: when it was unintentional. It's a way to live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it took everything personally interesting. So this led over his
Speaker 1: life to a couple of nervous breakdowns. Um, and you
Speaker 1: know that also had to do with the fact that
Speaker 1: he worked tirelessly and didn't sleep well and was in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways a prototypical scientists like he never
Speaker 1: got married, was just consumed with his work and didn't
Speaker 1: take care of himself and uh, sort of obsessed with
Speaker 1: his with his life's work. Yeah, and some people have
Speaker 1: posthumously diagnosed him, including Simon Baron Cohen who's a um
Speaker 1: an expert on autism and uh uh Asperger's borat his relative. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's his brother, but there are related Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was totally kidding. Well, you're totally right. So what
Speaker 1: are he diagnosed with Asperger's? But that's definitely come under
Speaker 1: fire lately. They think that So there's something UM called
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it's called. But in sixteen his
Speaker 1: second his second nervous breakdown in the sixteen nineties, he
Speaker 1: um they he stopped doing any kind of scientific research
Speaker 1: I for that, and he apparently declined mentally compared to
Speaker 1: his previous state, which means that he came down to
Speaker 1: about normal levels I would guess. But they think that
Speaker 1: it was actually mercury poisoning. Yeah, and that he wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily autistic. It's an easy catch all to put him
Speaker 1: in that in that again in that compartment these days,
Speaker 1: but we don't know enough about him to say that
Speaker 1: whether he was autistic, like like one of the um
Speaker 1: one of the evidences was that he didn't play with
Speaker 1: the other kids, Um, he just kept two himself. So
Speaker 1: they're like, well, that that shows a lack of social
Speaker 1: communication skills or or um, you know, being able to
Speaker 1: connect with others. But then if you look back at
Speaker 1: historical data, he he he tried to hang out with
Speaker 1: his peers at school, but they didn't like hanging out
Speaker 1: with them because he was too smart for them, so
Speaker 1: they shunned him. So, you know, does that make him
Speaker 1: autistic or does does that mean he had autism spectral
Speaker 1: disorder spectrum disorder or aspergers. You can't say he may have,
Speaker 1: but easy to go back now and put people on
Speaker 1: the on the spectrum. But they do think because he
Speaker 1: was exhumed a few hundred years after his death and
Speaker 1: they found a lot of mercury still like in his
Speaker 1: um system or in his bones, I would guess, um,
Speaker 1: and they think that he inadvertently poisoned himself and that
Speaker 1: that led to his second nervous breakdown and mental decline. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, let's take a break here and uh
Speaker 1: we'll talk about his schooling years right after this. All right,
Speaker 1: so Newton in school, Uh wasn't a great student in
Speaker 1: high school? Um? He who was the mascot? Was there
Speaker 1: was there one? I don't think so, okay, because I
Speaker 1: thought they were God that would be like really great
Speaker 1: trivia Newton's high school mascot? What was yours in Silanto's mind?
Speaker 1: What you remember Silanto? The kid who's like watching me,
Speaker 1: watching me night. You guys went to the same high school.
Speaker 1: Remember I told you we were the Red and Raiders Raiders? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my elementary school was the Red and Little Raiders. Ah.
Speaker 1: That is cute, isn't it? H l I l Um.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't a great student. He was also a
Speaker 1: terrible farmer because of course, being uh the son of
Speaker 1: a farmer. They were like, you need to work on
Speaker 1: the farm. And there are some people that think he'd
Speaker 1: purposefully like he was clearly smart enough to do this,
Speaker 1: but purposely failed at it. So he didn't have to
Speaker 1: do it because he was really into book learning. Uh
Speaker 1: so that makes sense to me. Um, he did continue
Speaker 1: his education because he wasn't farming I went on to Cambridge,
Speaker 1: but UM had to act as a valot to wealthy
Speaker 1: students for a little while. Yeah, way through basically what
Speaker 1: we would consider undergraduate school. Yeah, and then he got
Speaker 1: a scholarship which allowed him to continue UM through his
Speaker 1: uh graduate studies. But all that didn't happen in like
Speaker 1: some smooth things. So he went to school first. His
Speaker 1: mom came back for him, took him out of school,
Speaker 1: tried to set him up as a farmer. He failed
Speaker 1: at that, ended up going to Cambridge, working his way,
Speaker 1: working to pay his own way to Why though, if
Speaker 1: they had money, did they not want to pay for school?
Speaker 1: I wonder. I think maybe his mom wasn't happy about
Speaker 1: it or something. I'm not sure because that's the only
Speaker 1: thing I couldn't figure out, because she didn't have money
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, but he had to pay his own
Speaker 1: way through Cambridge, at least undergrad. And while he was
Speaker 1: there as an undergrad, chuck, he he pursued his own studies. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He basically got a syllabus each quarter, tore it up
Speaker 1: and said, you guys don't know this yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: Isaac Newton and I'm gonna invent a great figgy cookie
Speaker 1: and a lot of other great stuff. That is a
Speaker 1: great figgy cookie. Um So, so he almost he basically
Speaker 1: failed out or almost self educating himself. But there is
Speaker 1: a man named Isaac Barrow who was the Lucazian chair professor,
Speaker 1: and he took a notice of Newton and said, I
Speaker 1: think there's a little more to this kid than appears
Speaker 1: to meet the eye. He was the Robin Williams to
Speaker 1: Newton's Matt Damon precisely, you know, precisely, except Damon was
Speaker 1: a custodian and Newton was an actual student. But he
Speaker 1: did clean rooms too. Yeah, so there is a pretty
Speaker 1: deep parallel there. But um so, Newton got his hands
Speaker 1: on something by the guy who came up with the
Speaker 1: Mercader projection I can't remember his first name, and basically
Speaker 1: took this book and expounded on it um and it
Speaker 1: was just mind blowing stuff that he did. And he
Speaker 1: did it as like a year old. And Barrow got
Speaker 1: his hands on it and said, you need to stick around.
Speaker 1: So he ended up getting him basically a four year
Speaker 1: scholarship for postgraduate studies. Yeah, and not only that, but
Speaker 1: he uh for various reasons which we'll get into here,
Speaker 1: and there. Newton was reluctant to publish a lot of times,
Speaker 1: and Barrow was the one that really helped him say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to get this out there. This
Speaker 1: is great stuff you've got, ye, Matt Damon. Yes, Like
Speaker 1: you know what kind of movies you're going to be
Speaker 1: in after this? Yeah, you're going to be Private Ryan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You give me Jason Bourne and The Martian. You can't
Speaker 1: think of any other Matt Damon movies. Sure, uh uh
Speaker 1: of course. Oh you're gonna be The Scoundrel and The Departed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great movie it is. I thought Jack really overdid it
Speaker 1: in that one. Oh. I loved it. Although, dude, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something. Another movie I saw recently was The Shining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did say I saw it recently because I see
Speaker 1: The Shining probably every three months. Yeah, I saw it
Speaker 1: again recently. I think that that might be the best
Speaker 1: movie ever made. It's pretty great, and no joke, I
Speaker 1: really think The Shining might be at least my favorite
Speaker 1: movie of all time. Boy he uh, he can set
Speaker 1: a mood. It is so good and you can watch it.
Speaker 1: I can watch it anytime, any time of year, any
Speaker 1: time of day, any day of the week. Christmas morning exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll enjoy it just as much as I would
Speaker 1: on like Halloween or something. You know, it's my honeymoon night.
Speaker 1: Let's watch the shining right all the normal times. So um,
Speaker 1: Newton eventually, uh, well, actually not eventually. He was forced
Speaker 1: to leave Cambridge for um a little while because the
Speaker 1: bubonic plague swathed through London to the tune of about
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand people dead in six months. That's qui.
Speaker 1: So they closed Cambridge and said everyone go home. He
Speaker 1: went home, and everyone go home to London. He went
Speaker 1: home and h had a what they called later a
Speaker 1: year of miracles. He and us mirabilis uh. And it
Speaker 1: was a little bit mythical, and that supposedly he came
Speaker 1: up with all the great stuff of his career in
Speaker 1: this one year, probably played up for the newspapers or
Speaker 1: you know, for his own reputation of of the age,
Speaker 1: because in reality he did come up with a lot
Speaker 1: of great stuff, but he clearly didn't come up with
Speaker 1: everything in that year. He might have started a lot
Speaker 1: of good uh conversations in his head about things, but um,
Speaker 1: it was a little trumped up that that was the
Speaker 1: year of miracles. So it probably, like you said, there
Speaker 1: were some things I'm sure that he thought of during
Speaker 1: this year. But again, he placed his entire career in
Speaker 1: this one year, including the apple falling from the tree.
Speaker 1: Should we go and cover that? Sure? Did it happen? Uh?
Speaker 1: Probably not, And even if it did, it didn't. Historians
Speaker 1: are like, that is a fairy tale. On its face,
Speaker 1: you can tell it's a fairy tale. But Newton himself
Speaker 1: is like, oh no, this happened. That, this is really true.
Speaker 1: This is where the theory of gravitational um force sure
Speaker 1: came from. Yeah, Like he was laying on the ground,
Speaker 1: supposedly looking up at the moon, wondering, how's that thing
Speaker 1: just sitting up there? Spin off into space? Yeah, apple
Speaker 1: falls and he puts it all together. Sounds kind of unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Sounds like folklore to me, it does. But again he
Speaker 1: promoted this story. He was definitely for somebody who was
Speaker 1: just a hair's breath away from being uh shut in.
Speaker 1: And there was a d in there. It was breadth
Speaker 1: not breath, I know the difference. Um And and he
Speaker 1: didn't have virtually any friends. He had not one, but
Speaker 1: two nervous breakdowns in his lifetimes. Very insecure. He was
Speaker 1: also like an astute self promoter. Yeah, he he had
Speaker 1: a lot of contradictory sort of traits I think so. Um.
Speaker 1: Like we said earlier, he was very much noted for
Speaker 1: his precision with notes and experimentation. Um, with the averaging
Speaker 1: of data and uh what else the scientific method of course,
Speaker 1: putting these things into place. Yeah, the scientific method was
Speaker 1: already around. He didn't come up with a scientific method,
Speaker 1: but he definitely refined it and created the scientific method
Speaker 1: as we recognize as it today under ideal scientific inquiry,
Speaker 1: when when a scientist today follows that scientific procedure, what
Speaker 1: he's doing basically or she is following in Newton's footsteps.
Speaker 1: Like Newton took this thing and said, here's the best
Speaker 1: way to do this. Like you, you make some observations.
Speaker 1: From these observations, you come up with a theory, and
Speaker 1: then you figure out an experiment to test that theory,
Speaker 1: and then you either discard the theory or you um
Speaker 1: you yeah, you test it again until the theory becomes
Speaker 1: basically for all intents of purposes proven, And like you said,
Speaker 1: as a result, after after this coming up with it,
Speaker 1: when he laid this stuff down in his Principia mathematica UM,
Speaker 1: which is his big his not his life's work, but
Speaker 1: his his biggest published work as far as being widely
Speaker 1: accepted and remarkable and game changing. Yes, universe changing quite literally,
Speaker 1: or at least it changed our understanding of the universe. Um.
Speaker 1: When he when he laid all this stuff down, it's it's.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you could just say it is because
Speaker 1: God wills it anymore. It was like, here is the
Speaker 1: framework for science from here on out. Follow this, this
Speaker 1: is the best practice, and there's math behind all of it.
Speaker 1: And that was another thing too, Like, so let's talk
Speaker 1: about you want to talk about his Principia mathematica. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there was just a little thing in there
Speaker 1: called the three laws of motion. No biggie physics at all. Right,
Speaker 1: So there's inertia um, a body that is at rest
Speaker 1: tends to say at rest, acceleration which means things go
Speaker 1: super fast sometimes when they're falling, and action and reaction,
Speaker 1: which is uh, the cub ball theory. Yeah, and those
Speaker 1: are while he didn't completely invent those he he you know,
Speaker 1: Galleo started a lot of that talk, a lot that
Speaker 1: jibber jabber, but Newton really solidified at all, and it's
Speaker 1: remarkable to think that all these years later that's still
Speaker 1: the thing. Well, he solidified it. And so what Galileo
Speaker 1: did was he said, I've observed this, and it seems
Speaker 1: to be universally applicable that if if a ball is
Speaker 1: sitting there on a table and nothing's moving it, no
Speaker 1: wind is blowing, there's no force acting upon it, it's
Speaker 1: not going to spontaneously move. And people went, Galileo, that
Speaker 1: was that's amazing. Can you explain why? And Galileo was like, no.
Speaker 1: Newton came along and he said, I can explain why.
Speaker 1: And he added a third law of motion to that.
Speaker 1: And the whole point was he figured out that everything
Speaker 1: has mass. Everything that has mass has some sort of
Speaker 1: force acting upon it, and as a result, also can
Speaker 1: exert force on other bodies that have mass. And what
Speaker 1: he figured out that force was, or that magical thing,
Speaker 1: was gravity universal gravitation, right, which his law of universal gravitation,
Speaker 1: which is also in the principia Um. And again, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can overstate this, Chuck. People knew that
Speaker 1: like the moon went around the Earth and that it
Speaker 1: was somehow adhered to the Earth, but they didn't really
Speaker 1: know why. And out of nowhere, like no one before
Speaker 1: him had ever suggested, maybe it's this thing called gravity. Newton,
Speaker 1: his perspective of the universe, gave us the idea of gravity.
Speaker 1: It wasn't there before Newton. It's amazing it was there
Speaker 1: because of Newton. It's here now. Like that's a huge contribution,
Speaker 1: just that alone. And he's not one of these scientists.
Speaker 1: It's like a seven century scientist said this, and he
Speaker 1: was close. But it turns out he was wrong in
Speaker 1: every way. But it was a good start, like Einstein,
Speaker 1: although Einstein did go on to change and uh uh
Speaker 1: not adapt well, I guess he adapted. But Newton was
Speaker 1: wrong in some cases. But some of these laws are
Speaker 1: still spot on right. And this is like the mid
Speaker 1: to late six yea. Our understanding of gravity has been
Speaker 1: refined tremendously by by Um Einstein and the idea of
Speaker 1: relativity and quantum mechanics and all that. But for what
Speaker 1: Newton was doing, yes, he explained the universe. He was uh.
Speaker 1: He was the first person to say, you know what, uh,
Speaker 1: this white light you see isn't actually white. It's actually
Speaker 1: a spectrum of colors and everyone's like, what he did
Speaker 1: this as a student, and he said watch this and
Speaker 1: he got out of prism and bam and everyone went, whoa,
Speaker 1: he got out of prison prism. He oh, I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then we had the Dark Side of the Moon
Speaker 1: album cover, so you can thank Newton for that as well.
Speaker 1: That's right. And he published that in seventeen o four,
Speaker 1: and which is way after he experimented with prisms because
Speaker 1: he was reluctant to publish things a lot. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. Was published an optics. Yeah, like magic.
Speaker 1: I guess they dropped magic. Yeah, sometimes magic spelled with
Speaker 1: a K, which you know, it's like the real thing.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, chuck. He published um Optics
Speaker 1: in seventeen o four, but he was doing these experiments
Speaker 1: in like the sixteen sixties um, and he didn't publish
Speaker 1: this stuff in part because he could not handle being
Speaker 1: challenged criticized. He did not like it, and he got
Speaker 1: into it a lot. Like part of the scientific revolution
Speaker 1: that was going on was that scientists around the world,
Speaker 1: well at least in the West, we're arguing with one another,
Speaker 1: we're picking apart one another's theories were um corresponding with
Speaker 1: one another about ideas and sharing all these thoughts, but
Speaker 1: a lot of it was contentious and um his first
Speaker 1: Newton's first nervous breakdown came because Robert Hook said that
Speaker 1: he stole some of his ideas, and then they had
Speaker 1: it out in the journals through letters back and forth
Speaker 1: through the life. Yeah, and then he also the Jesuits
Speaker 1: didn't accuse him of stealing any of their ideas, but um,
Speaker 1: he was. He was corresponding with the monastery and they
Speaker 1: were like, we like your your thoughts, but we think
Speaker 1: your experiment might be slightly flawed. And he went for zerk.
Speaker 1: He's like what And then he had a nervous breakdown,
Speaker 1: which was finally completed in sixteen sixty nine. I believe
Speaker 1: with the our sixteen seventy nine, I'm sorry, with the
Speaker 1: death of his mother, so he was doing experiments. He
Speaker 1: started to kind of come out with him publicly. They
Speaker 1: they were challenged in question, he lost his his he
Speaker 1: went berserk. It's probably stems from his rejection from childhood.
Speaker 1: Of course, he withdrew and then throughout the sixteen seventies
Speaker 1: didn't do any kind of um publishing or research. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of went dark. Yeah, then his mom dies
Speaker 1: and then um, he finally comes back out of it
Speaker 1: thanks to the help of like Isaac Barrow, and then
Speaker 1: later on other colleagues like Edmund Haley of Haley's comment,
Speaker 1: and then finally publishes. But if you notice the date
Speaker 1: of the publication of Optics, that comes after Robert Hook,
Speaker 1: who is his lifelong arch nemesis, has died, and they
Speaker 1: never worked it out. There wasn't some like, uh, leave
Speaker 1: on Helm, Robbie robertson deathbed, Hey, I still love you, man,
Speaker 1: Like they died, now, come on, they died bitter rivals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Newton and uh Hook. I know a band reference is
Speaker 1: probably lost on most people. Just google it. Google the band. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's also like a hundred dudes that are like, yes,
Speaker 1: what a reference? What else did he do? How about
Speaker 1: a little something called the reflecting telescope. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: big one. Back in the day, refracting tell us hopes
Speaker 1: were all the rage. But you couldn't really focus that
Speaker 1: well on him, which is sort of key with a telescope,
Speaker 1: would be like, is that a stock? Sure, let's call
Speaker 1: it a stock. Uh, and let's name it after me. Um.
Speaker 1: But these mirrors that he said, you know what, dudes,
Speaker 1: let's use lenses. It can be about one twelfth size
Speaker 1: and in focus. Boom, and all of a sudden, like
Speaker 1: if you dropped the average size of a telescope down,
Speaker 1: that would be good enough. Yeah, even if it's still Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he actually improved it as well. That's right, and
Speaker 1: that got him into the Royal Academy when he presented
Speaker 1: it at the urging a Barrow again, I think that
Speaker 1: was Barrow that actually did the presenting, but he said
Speaker 1: it's this guy and just stood off to the side
Speaker 1: with his security blanket around his shoulders. He had his woobie. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he also created a little something that I hate
Speaker 1: called calculus. I and you don't even hate calculus because
Speaker 1: I am that unfamiliar with it. Yeah, had to take
Speaker 1: a calculus class and I wasn't good at it. The
Speaker 1: remarkable thing is he created calculus because the limits of geometry.
Speaker 1: He was like, we need more higher level of math
Speaker 1: to figure this out, and I'm gonna invent it, not
Speaker 1: to figure it out, to explain it makes sense of
Speaker 1: it what he figured out. Yeah, so he's like calculus,
Speaker 1: it's great with things in motion and geometry. Isn't. And
Speaker 1: he was all about, well not all about. He was
Speaker 1: keen on things in motion. Yeah, well you kind of
Speaker 1: needed him, Like you could say, well this, you know,
Speaker 1: an ellipse is is Um. You can describe it geometrically,
Speaker 1: but you can't really describe an orbit of something. It's
Speaker 1: motion in the in an ellipse, just through normal geometry.
Speaker 1: So I'll just invent a supersized version of geometry to
Speaker 1: help explain my discoveries. Yeah, and um, it wasn't nuts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't called calculus though. It was called the fluxions,
Speaker 1: which I think, Uh, we should bring back, totally bring
Speaker 1: it back. We should call it. Everyone should call it
Speaker 1: the fluxions. You might as well. I refer to calculus
Speaker 1: so infrequently that I can just call it the flex
Speaker 1: and people be like, what does that mean? I'll say,
Speaker 1: look it up. All right, let's take a break here
Speaker 1: and we will get into the later years of Newton's
Speaker 1: life when things got a little weird. All right, So
Speaker 1: we mentioned his lifelong rivalry with Robert Hook. Um, not
Speaker 1: the pirate, not the pirate? Uh? Was there a pirate
Speaker 1: named Robert Hook? Captain Hook from Peter Pan? Was it Robert.
Speaker 1: I don't know, he didn't have any on it. Know,
Speaker 1: I think I want to say that's James Hook. I
Speaker 1: think James Hook. I think you're right. Um so not
Speaker 1: the pirate U. He also had a rivalry with um. Well,
Speaker 1: he had a rivalry with many scientists. But another dude
Speaker 1: who claimed he invented calculus, Oh Liban's. So that's a
Speaker 1: weird story, the story of calculus. Who invented calculus? Because
Speaker 1: think about it, people don't invent new, more refined forms
Speaker 1: of math every day, do they. Well, they don't. They
Speaker 1: think they might not even the state. Well, when they
Speaker 1: come down off the acid, they realized that it's all
Speaker 1: just chicken scraps and get this tinfoil hat off my head.
Speaker 1: So when when not only Newton said that he created calculus,
Speaker 1: Liban said that he did as well. Within a decade
Speaker 1: or some of each other, there was quite a bit
Speaker 1: of hubbub over who actually created calculus. And to make
Speaker 1: the whole thing even more murky, they had corresponded with
Speaker 1: one another about the ideas of calculus. And scientists aren't
Speaker 1: not all scientists, but polease, don't write in and say
Speaker 1: I'm not like that, but scientists a lot of times
Speaker 1: in history, some of the more notable scientists aren't big
Speaker 1: on being like, yeah, we we totally like help each other.
Speaker 1: It's usually like, no, I invented that, because that's their legacy.
Speaker 1: I think that they're fighting for sure, and sometimes it's
Speaker 1: definitely pride themselves on their legacy. And Newton was probably
Speaker 1: one of them, and big money so he um he
Speaker 1: and Leban's had this ongoing dispute and they had their
Speaker 1: supporters as well. Who who disputed? And it wasn't just
Speaker 1: a Leban's versus Newton in who created calculus. It was
Speaker 1: also the Aisles versus the continent, the Catholics versus the Protestants.
Speaker 1: There were a lot more divisions to it than just
Speaker 1: these two men. But from what I can gather, historians
Speaker 1: now believe that um Liban's and Newton independently developed calculus
Speaker 1: on their own. Really is that the modern way of thinking? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Newton probably beat his notes suggests that he came up
Speaker 1: with calculus before Liban's, but that Leban's came up with
Speaker 1: it on his own as well. Wow, that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1: It is. It's almost like a soccer score. Everybody wins,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh. He also in the dark years we
Speaker 1: talked about when he sort of fell off the radar
Speaker 1: and wasn't publishing much. That's when he was getting into
Speaker 1: the alchemy um, which we said, um range is what
Speaker 1: really was was sort of a precursor to chemistry in
Speaker 1: some ways, UM And now we look back on it
Speaker 1: with a little more understanding. At the time though it
Speaker 1: was illegal up until like I think of right before
Speaker 1: his birth, was actually illegal because it was I guess
Speaker 1: like one of the dark arts or something, and they
Speaker 1: were burning people at the stake for practicing alchemy, right,
Speaker 1: which again at the time it was a little fruity,
Speaker 1: you know, but it wasn't so much so that uh,
Speaker 1: it wasn't science wasn't necessarily so close to the concept
Speaker 1: of mystical truths as it is today. Um, So you
Speaker 1: could conceivably be involved in scientific inquiry and find yourself
Speaker 1: going down this alley of alchemy. Even still, Newton was like,
Speaker 1: this would be bad for my name, and I might
Speaker 1: be fired if they found out that I was into alchemy,
Speaker 1: and so he kept it a closely guarded secret. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not only did he, but his family after his death
Speaker 1: kind of kept that stuff quiet for a while, and
Speaker 1: I think it was the early ninety nineties when all
Speaker 1: of his works were finally published and they were like whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really all over the place, well out there. Uh.
Speaker 1: We also mentioned earlier briefly that he thought that um,
Speaker 1: he thought that alchemy was like any ancient riddle, um,
Speaker 1: and it was up to him and other uh, up
Speaker 1: to him, Jehovah sank this unus Yeah, to figure it out,
Speaker 1: and the answer is out there. And he's one in
Speaker 1: a line of great men chosen to do so little
Speaker 1: screwy Yeah at this point, right, m I being cold,
Speaker 1: He believed in the Philosopher's Stone. I have a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of respect for him, having a scientific mind that
Speaker 1: was open to all sorts of stuff. And again, this
Speaker 1: was the seventeenth century, so let's cut him some slack.
Speaker 1: But he did believe in the Philosopher's Stone, which was
Speaker 1: thought to aid in alchemy cure disease, and um, somethink
Speaker 1: or thought that like the key to eternal life was
Speaker 1: in the Saucerer's stone, Philosopher's Stone. Sorry, that's a whole
Speaker 1: different things, a little different, and chuck um. Not only
Speaker 1: was he into alchemy and mysticism as well. Um, he
Speaker 1: also was very much into uh like obscure Christian stuff too. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: like one of his pursuits that he amused himself with
Speaker 1: on the side was chronology. He wanted to he believed
Speaker 1: the Bible was a literal history of um the world,
Speaker 1: and that the prophecies in the Bible were directly from
Speaker 1: God who could who who could see to the end
Speaker 1: of time and knew everything that was gonna happen already.
Speaker 1: So everything in the Bible he called a history of
Speaker 1: future events basically. And so his whole thing was, if
Speaker 1: you can go back, now that we understand time keeping
Speaker 1: better and astronomy, you could go back and sink, um,
Speaker 1: things that happened in the Bible to current astronomical dates.
Speaker 1: You can put a current date on them, so you
Speaker 1: could say when, um, you know this happened, when the
Speaker 1: walls of Jericho actually fell, because he believed all this
Speaker 1: stuff happened, or when something might happen in the future exactly.
Speaker 1: And apparently he did just that. He interpreted this one
Speaker 1: section of the Bible about the end of the world coming,
Speaker 1: and he dated it to coming up. We'll see, So uh,
Speaker 1: I read a little blurb from a scholar of on
Speaker 1: Newton who said, like he, this is something he did
Speaker 1: to amuse himself in private. It was never meant for
Speaker 1: perfect consumption. But he probably would have believed that he
Speaker 1: got that date right. Oh really, Yeah, he he worried
Speaker 1: about getting dates wrong and didn't think that people should
Speaker 1: mess around with stuff like that because you are fallible
Speaker 1: and in setting dates like that. Um, which is probably
Speaker 1: why he never meant it for publication. But he probably
Speaker 1: thought he was right. Yeah, and that had he lived
Speaker 1: in twenty six he would have seen the end of
Speaker 1: the world. He also dabbled in something called arianism, which uh,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with white people. Um, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was actually a priest named Arius from
Speaker 1: Libya is the Olivian priest who came up with this.
Speaker 1: And the idea is that um the Holy Trinity, Father, Son,
Speaker 1: holy Spirit. And in Christian theology it disrupted that and
Speaker 1: said that Jesus may have been created by God, but
Speaker 1: he is not divine. If you believe in arianism, that's
Speaker 1: what you believe. And Newton was an adherent of arianism,
Speaker 1: which super popular at the time or ever. Probably it
Speaker 1: was basically stamped out by the seventh century, and here's
Speaker 1: Newton in the sixteenth, seventeenth, and eighteenth century. Yeah, he's like,
Speaker 1: oh this, this makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1: What an obscure, arcane thing to think of. And he
Speaker 1: got into a religion in college. Actually another weird thing
Speaker 1: to do, even at that time. Yeah, that's when you
Speaker 1: get out of religion. Sure, that's when you started to
Speaker 1: question things, right, that's when he got into it. Apparently
Speaker 1: one of the first things that he did he was
Speaker 1: a bit of a prude. One of the first things
Speaker 1: he did was um, right down a list of every
Speaker 1: sin he ever committed. And they weren't exactly groundbreaking, like
Speaker 1: um Silverman points out that one of them was he
Speaker 1: broke the Sabbath by baking pies one Sunday. How dare
Speaker 1: he like? This is the kind of sins that he's like.
Speaker 1: He also said he wanted to burn his mother and
Speaker 1: stepfather alive in their home, which was one of the
Speaker 1: sins he recorded. So he did have a darker side,
Speaker 1: did he really? Oh yeah, oh we really did. That
Speaker 1: wasn't a joke. I thought. I was like, that was
Speaker 1: a weird joke. No, he had quite arranged from baking
Speaker 1: pies to burning his parents alive, like just wanting to though, right, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: he didn't make an attempt to r no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was yeah, the sin was threatening to her, wanting
Speaker 1: to I'm not sure if he got verbalized it or
Speaker 1: if he just thought it in his head. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like he was a rejected little kid, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: who wouldn't want So we're talking about arianism though there's
Speaker 1: um it's a very heretical thought that Jesus isn't divine,
Speaker 1: but that you should still worship him, right, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a very unusual line of thinking, right, and and
Speaker 1: like critics of that kind of thinking say, well that
Speaker 1: that worships um poly or that creates poly theism because
Speaker 1: you're worshiping God, but you're also worshiping Jesus, who's not divine.
Speaker 1: You're a wrong wrong wrong, wrong wrong. And the Council
Speaker 1: of New See you UM, which was a learned council
Speaker 1: that basically decided what went into the Bible UH in
Speaker 1: the fourth century, said uh, no, the Trinity is absolutely
Speaker 1: correct and anything against that is heresy and you should
Speaker 1: be burned at the state. So even that, UM, I
Speaker 1: get the impression that his fellow dons at Cambridge I
Speaker 1: knew that he was into Arianism, or if they didn't,
Speaker 1: they may have suspected that he had unorthodox beliefs about Christianity,
Speaker 1: and so that just created an even wider gulf between
Speaker 1: him and and the people who he saw on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. Well, he definitely thought that Catholicism and uh
Speaker 1: some other like branches of major religions were very corrupt
Speaker 1: and not to be trusted. Uh, yeah, he was. He
Speaker 1: was an odd guy. Uh, we can't get that across enough. Um.
Speaker 1: Later in life, but he did not sit on his laurels.
Speaker 1: Later in life, he was made uh he accepted a
Speaker 1: position at the mint um and apparently that that sort
Speaker 1: of sounds like the old I'm going to retire as
Speaker 1: the CEO and work as a consultant, Like I'll make
Speaker 1: more money than I did ever before for not doing
Speaker 1: much work. Um. Apparently that was the deal with the mint.
Speaker 1: He got appointed later on in your life to the
Speaker 1: mint and he kind of just made a lot of
Speaker 1: dough and didn't do much. He was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm gonna actually do something. He like
Speaker 1: three years later became master of the Mint and he
Speaker 1: is the one responsible for changing the English pound standard
Speaker 1: from sterling to gold. Is that right? Yes, he was
Speaker 1: actually trying to get things done and he went after counterfeiters,
Speaker 1: went after counterfeiters. Pretty interesting. Yeah, not bad. He was
Speaker 1: also later in life elected the president of the Royal
Speaker 1: Society of London, which is the Academy of Sciences in
Speaker 1: in the UK. Yeah, he was a member of parliament.
Speaker 1: He's elected to parliament, but he yes, he was twice.
Speaker 1: And actually he was knighted in seventeen o five and
Speaker 1: the Queen apparently knighted him for political reasons. She wanted
Speaker 1: to help He was standing for parliament again and she
Speaker 1: wanted to help his chances of being elected, so she
Speaker 1: united him, not for his scientific achievements because of the
Speaker 1: election of se five. It didn't help. He still didn't
Speaker 1: unseat the guy that she wanted out of office, but
Speaker 1: he got knighted anyway. Good for him. Yeah, what a
Speaker 1: complex dude. Yeah, there's a T shirt just a picture
Speaker 1: of him complex dude underneath, and we should We didn't
Speaker 1: really talk quite enough about it, but he definitely stole
Speaker 1: people's ideas in certain ways. There's a guy named um
Speaker 1: John Flamsteed, and he, like Newton, used a lot of
Speaker 1: his work to help form the basis of his theory
Speaker 1: of universal gravitation, and Um Flamsteed, I guess, rubbed Newton
Speaker 1: the wrong way, and Newton just removed any reference to
Speaker 1: Flamsteed in his second edition of the Principia. I think
Speaker 1: all scientists build on the backs of those who came
Speaker 1: before them. But it's been it'd be cool to say, like,
Speaker 1: and this would not have been possible without the work
Speaker 1: of Flamsteed, not like, oh you know what, let's redact
Speaker 1: that and took his name out of there because I
Speaker 1: think it's a jerk. I don't like how it's spelled. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We'll end with his epitaph, though, because it definitely gets
Speaker 1: the point across I think correctly. His epithap says, mortals rejoice.
Speaker 1: That's so great an ornament to the human race. Wow.
Speaker 1: I thought it was business in front, party in the rear. No,
Speaker 1: he invented the mullet. You know. Oh, I know, you're ready.
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