1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I and Mike Spaffer joined by my 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: trusted colleague Weston Hodkoitz. We're coming to you hear from 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: our studios at Lambeufield and wes As we are taping this. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: It is Thursday afternoon. Two practices in the books from 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Packers twenty twenty five training camp. We managed to avoid 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: or be spared. I guess I should say the rain 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: that was in the forecast and the first two days 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: were not overly uncomfortable. There were some clouds and a 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: little bit of breeze, and you know, so I'm hoping 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: that that continues over the next month. But now I 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: probably just jinxed it. That being said, two days of 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: practice in the books. Practices are not in pads just yet, 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: but I'll just throw it out to you open ended, 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: but rises to the top of your list in terms 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: of your first impressions in this Packers training camp. 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: And Nate Hobbs, this guy coming to Las Vegas Raiders. 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: You were talking about it United discussion in the locker 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: about it. He's a tone setter, Yeah he is. He 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: makes plays he tells you when he's making plays. But 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: the part that I thought has been most interesting about 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: watching him, and this goes back to OTA's in mini camp, 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 3: It isn't just these two practices. 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: He is around the ball constantly. 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: He's had his hands on a ton of footballs, and 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: he plays physical, but yet he doesn't get penalized. If 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 3: you look at those numbers, four penalties in his first 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: excuse me, eleven penalties in his first four seasons. This 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: guy can play clean, but play smart and make plays. 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: And there was another instance today where it looked like 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: Jordan Love was going to hit don Tavian wicks on 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: and out here comes number twenty one into the picture. 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: That ball gets bounced out, and just like on Wednesday's 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: practice when he broke up pass for his former teammate 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: with the Raiders, Josh Jacobs, right in front of the media, 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: so we got to see the smile, we got to 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: hear the banter. He plays with an infectious enthusiasm, and 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: when you add that into the mix of a Keyshawn 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: Nixon and Xavier McKinney and a lot of really extroverted, 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: outgoing personalities on that defense, it's making. 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: For a very confident bunch, I would say. 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I asked Hobbs after practice on Thursday, he 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: spoke to some reporters at his locker. I asked him 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: just I'm like, dude, you're you seem to be like 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: really intense, like all the time out on the field. 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, have you always played the game that way? 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: And he was just like yeah, he says, because you 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: gotta love this game to play it, you know. I 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: mean that was really it's a simple answer, but yet 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: it says so much about his personality and how excited 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: he is to be here to be a part of 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: this defense. And we've seen already with the defensive backs. 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, the whole idea of playing mix and match 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and using versatility and whatnot is, you know, it's not 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: just lip service. Because we've seen Hobbs in the slot, 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: we've seen him outside, we've seen Javon Bullard in the slot, 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: we've seen him playing deep safety. We've seen you know, 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: Valentine and Nixon rotating in doing their thing. The way 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: things have gone these first couple of days with the 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: different packages of DBS, I think is very much the 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: way we previewed that on our show earlier this week. 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: It's there's been a lot going on in the first 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: couple of days because from our perspective on the sideline, 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: almost every play you have to double check the personnel 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: because they're switching things around all the time. 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they really are. 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: I think that showed up on Thursday as well, because 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: really important play of that practice where you had an 70 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: interception by Carrington Valentine and there was a lot of 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: people around me that were like, who tipped that up? 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, it was Isaiah Simmons, the Packers free 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: agent linebacker that they signed, all six foot four and twenty. 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: And you were trying to let me know on Twitter 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: who it was because I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure, 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: and I knew it was either Simmons or Hopper who 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: had tipped it based on where my angle was and 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: how I saw it. But I wasn't one hundred percent sure, 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to put it out there in 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: case I was wrong. 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: Journalist. 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you but you you knew you saw it 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: and you knew who it was. 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: But it's but it's those type of plays that another 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: person had remarked to me during practice. One of the 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: uh we usually have a lot of like sales and 87 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: business development guests that are there and they're like, how 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: do you keep up with everything? I'm like, well, there's 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: no replay, so you get one shot at this that's right, 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: not to be wrong, and you. 91 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: Try to see it the right way. 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: But I felt like for the first two practices though, 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: and it's gone both ways. The offense won one day, 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: defense won another one yep, and just the the overall 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: energy I think has been right where Matt Lafuers wanted it. 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: There, the competitiveness in the eleven on eleven has been 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: I think right where Matt Lafleuer wants it. I noticed 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: on Wednesday in the first practice when they were doing 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: some red zone work, there's a play where Nixon is 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: just blanketing Romeo Dobbs on a fade to the corner, 102 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: really good coverage pass didn't really have a chance to 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: get through there. But then a couple of snaps later, Dobbs, 104 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, makes the inside move on the slant at 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: the goal line and he wins that one and gets 106 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: the touchdown. Two really really good players, Romeo Dobbs, Keishawn 107 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: Nixon going ahead to head back and forth. Jordan Love 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: as the quarterback. Those are the kind of you know, 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: back and forth in training camp that makes it entertaining 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: to watch, but that also helps players get ready for 111 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: the season and helps them get better. 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: And to bring it back to the point you're making 113 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: a couple of minutes ago, the amount of rotations we've 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: seen at all these positions, even on the stationary positions 115 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: like offensive line and cornerback, the spots where typically it's 116 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: one guy one game that's their position, we've seen a 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: lot of guys going in and out of the line up, 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: a lot of versatility with how they're using the defensive front. 119 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: You got edge rushers in three point stances and two 120 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: point stances. You have these linebackers off ball like Simmons, 121 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: like Edgern Cooper being part of the pass rush plan, 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: being a part of the coverage plan, and then certainly 123 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: the multitude of different offensive line combinations. 124 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: They're working right now. 125 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: You saw with Elton Jenkins not being back yet because 126 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: of the back injury, that you have Sean Ryan, who 127 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: I asked during locker room on Wednesday if he'd ever 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: even played center before he got to Green Bay, and 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: he said, yeah, they had me do it once in 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: an All Star Game, but the last two years he's 131 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: learned that position. You're having Jordan Morgan competing at two 132 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: spots at both left tackle with Rashid Walker and then 133 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: also with Ryan at right guard. And then in Thursday's practice, 134 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: Aaron Banks stops. I don't know exactly what the context was, 135 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: but he no longer practices in the team periods. I 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: don't wouldn't necessarily call it dropping out, but he was 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: pulled from all that. And here comes Travis Glover, who 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: was the sixth round pick last year out of Georgia State. 139 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: Now he's working with the number one. So just a 140 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: lot of different combinations, a lot of different experience that 141 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: Green Bay is testing right now. And ultimately, these are 142 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: the things you have to do when you have a 143 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: deep roster and you want to see where guys potentially 144 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: can fit. 145 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we've mentioned Isaiah Simmons name a couple of times. 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: He got the tip on the interception by Valentine there. 147 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: He's he's made a pretty strong impression just in these 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: in these first couple of days. Because going back to 149 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice, there were two plays. One was a like 150 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: a pitch outside on a running play to Josh Jacobs. 151 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: The other one was a screen pass to Josh Jacobs 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and both of them, like Simmons was just he just 153 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: bolted into the backfield and was right there kind of 154 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: in you know, in Jacob's way, so to speak, like 155 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: immediately almost when when he got the ball, And it's 156 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: one of those things that you hear. Everybody knows Isaiah 157 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Simmons is, you know, a different type, a different kind 158 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: of athlete. He's got all kinds of speed for linebacker 159 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: that isn't normal. But this is the first time we've 160 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: actually kind of seen it in the in the eleven 161 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: on eleven and you can't miss it. I mean, it's 162 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: just it's a it's obvious out there. He's actually in 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: talking with reporters at his locker after practice on Thursday. 164 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: He's looking forward to getting into the pads because I 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: think he feels that his speed becomes even more of 166 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: an advantage in pads because he doesn't necessarily slow down 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: as much as some other guys do once the pads 168 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: go on. So there's there's a lot to watch here. 169 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what role Isaiah Simmons is going 170 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: to end up with in this Packers defense. But but man, 171 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: is this is is this an intriguing addition to to 172 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: what already is A is a pretty robust group at linebacker. 173 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and A first impressions go with both him and 174 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: then also Mikole Hartman has got kind of these guys 175 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: that were sort of the late signees at positions where 176 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: there's a lot of depth. They've found ways to make 177 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: themselves in their presence. Felt Yeah, I feel like not 178 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: only in these two practices, but again in the off 179 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: season program. And I'll tell you what, Mike, I'm not 180 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: a scout and I will be the first to admit 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: statistics do not tell you everything. But I've had the 182 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: darnedest time trying to figure out Isaiah Simmons career and 183 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: up until he got to this point, because if you 184 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: look at what he did in Arizona those first two 185 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: and a half years, he had a ton of tackles, 186 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: he had a ton of interceptions, he had a ton 187 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: of sacks. I mean, the guy was affecting the game 188 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: based on how the stat sheet looks alone, and Arizona 189 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: in that post Cliff Kingsbury era did not have a 190 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: role for him. He ends up getting traded to the Giants. 191 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: The Giants end up actually re signing him for an 192 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: extra season even though he'd played sparingly, and now he 193 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: finally ends up in Green Bay. And I'm telling you, man, 194 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to call Jeff Hafley the linebacker 195 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: whisper at all, but one of the big stories that 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: I've been pumping out a lot during the off season. 197 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: I made it a part of the Position by position 198 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: with the Countdown of Camp series is Green Bay had 199 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: the most depth they've had, bar none in my fourteen 200 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: years covering the team. This season and even last year, 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: they halfley found ways to maximize all these guys' abilities. 202 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: Isaiah McDuffie was affecting the game. I mean, you saw 203 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: what kway Walker could do when he's healthy. And certainly 204 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: Eddrian Cooper was a PFWA All Rookie team member and 205 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: a guy that made a case for being a defensive 206 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: Rookie the Year candidate. So yeah, you throw Isaiah Simmons 207 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: into the mix, you see where he could potentially fit, 208 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: but him hardman. A lot of these guys that were 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: sort of like the second tier conversation throughout the off 210 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: season program. I feel like they're off to some pretty 211 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: strong starts. 212 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because when Simmons was talking with reporters 213 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: after Thursday's practice, he was not only making reference to 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: obviously learning a new system with Halfley's defense and whatnot, 215 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: which any newcomer has to do, but then he also 216 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: kept referencing, you know, playing a new position. And so 217 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: then I asked him, I said, okay, you keep talking 218 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: about new position, like, what's new about it? And he said, well, 219 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: he said, it's it's it's a new position in the 220 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: sense of the last couple of years. When he was 221 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: in New York with the Giants, he was always in 222 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: the dB Rusty was he was considered a safety. And 223 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: he says now, he says, for the first time in 224 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: three years, essentially going back to his time in Arizona, 225 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: he's now back in what he calls the linebacker wild 226 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: and he's in that linebacker world full time. And he's 227 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of times now. He did it in 228 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the spring when he talked with the media, and he 229 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: did it again today talking about how his unique combination 230 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: of speed and length and agility and power, you know, 231 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: because he's got he's certainly got some hitting power in 232 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: that six foot four, two hundred and thirty eight pound frame. 233 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: But he was he was pegged as that v word 234 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: that you talked about on our last show as being 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: a buzzword, the versatility. He was the versatile guy who 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: can you know, can do all of these all of 237 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: these things. And he's actually talked about that as being 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: more of a curse than a blessing so far in 239 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: his career. What he's really liked about coming to Green 240 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: Bay is it's not the discussions are not about his 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: versatility necessarily. The Packers have said, hey, here's here's a 242 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: linebacker spot. This is a new defense, like learn this, 243 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: get really good at it, you know, focus on this, 244 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: And he really appreciates that because he said, it's not 245 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: he's not coming in and learning something new the next 246 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: day and then learning something new the day after that. 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Where that's where the whole versatility thing got to be 248 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: more of a curse than a blessing for him. So 249 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: it's one of those things, you know, every every player 250 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: has to somehow find their own path, right and who knows, 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Green Bay in je half Lee's defense and 252 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: with the way the Packers want to use him, maybe 253 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: that's where you know, Isaiah Simmons gets a complete reset 254 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: on his career. Who knows, we don't know. It's a 255 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: pretty deep linebacker group when you're talking about Kway Walker, 256 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: who has now been pulled off pup but is not 257 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: one hundred percent cleared to be on the practice field yet. 258 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: But you have Walker, you have Cooper, you re signed McDuffie, 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: you brought back Christian Welch, You've thrown You've thrown Isaiah 260 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Simmons into the mix. It's not as though the Packers 261 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: are hurting for linebackers, but you get the feeling that 262 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: they're going to find a role for this guy somehow, 263 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: some way. 264 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: I mean, he's being used as a flyer on specialty 265 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: on coverage too. So. But I think the one part 266 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: of it that I was really kind of looking at 267 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: when because I was with you on that when he 268 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: said that during the offseason about him spending that time 269 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: in the safeties room and with the DBS. Even if 270 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: you go back to his time in Arizona, the Cardinals 271 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: in that era were like one of the leading teams 272 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: with the day owned Book Buchanan type linebackers. 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: Which are those hybrid types, hybrid. 274 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: Safety types that they built their defenses around to kind 275 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: of keep up with the faster trend of the league. Well, 276 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: what ended up happening at that time was you had 277 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: teams like Tampa Bay and you had teams like San 278 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: Francisco who they had legitimate two hundred and forty pound 279 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: linebackers who also could run, and it kind of got 280 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: to be a they went back to the fundamentals of 281 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: that position, but they just looked for faster bodies there 282 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: and then that sort of ended that Morgan Burnett hybrid 283 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: role of those linebackers in those packages. I feel like Simmons, 284 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, got sort of just kind of boxed 285 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: into that corner even during his time with Arizona. So 286 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: now he comes into a defense like Green Bay, which 287 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: is not messing around with box corners. I mean, they'll 288 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: use a strong safety, but they're not asking their safeties. 289 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: To play the linebacker position, right. 290 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: They're not asking Simmons to play slot cornerbacker nickel cornerback 291 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: and go out there and line up against slot receivers. 292 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: They're asking him to be an off ball linebacker. And 293 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: it feels like to me, without knowing the ins and 294 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: outs of Arizona's defense, that this is the first time 295 00:14:58,920 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: that he's really been given that up. 296 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and he seems very interested and very excited 297 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: about it. So definitely a story to follow and to 298 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: see where it goes. I'll take care of a little 299 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: bit of sponsor business here. West Sirius XMNFL Radio delivers 300 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news 301 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: that true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, three 302 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: sixty five. 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A quick note that you had from 311 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Thursday's practice that I think is something to watch as 312 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: training camp continues and maybe even as we head into 313 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five regular season. Jordan Love got a 314 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: couple guys to jump off side that whole I mean, 315 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: he learned from the Master of the hard count, right, 316 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: all that deception, but he got Hobbs, and I believe 317 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: it was Cooper on the other one. Something something to 318 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: keep an eye on, because that's not something that Jordan 319 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Love has necessarily been focused on in any stretch or 320 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: all that adept at. It's not something that we've noticed 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot. But when it happens twice in one practice 322 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: and this early in training camp, it's definitely something to 323 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. 324 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, second non padded practice a training camp, and Love 325 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: has guys coming across the line and being able to 326 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: potentially get some free plays out of it. As you said, 327 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers did it as better as best, maybe as any. 328 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback in the history of the game. 329 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: Yep. And the way he was also able to use 330 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: those opportunities when he did get the free play, I mean, 331 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: that's a part of his legacy, right. 332 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: We've talked about it for a. 333 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: Decade now, Jordan Love incorporating that into him And I 334 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: think the fun part was just the amount of laughter 335 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: that was generated on the offensive side the ball when 336 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: it happened. Guys were having a good time with it, 337 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: and it was funny that one of the guys he 338 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: drew off sides was Nate Hobbs, who, as I said 339 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: earlier in the show, so you know, eleven penalties in 340 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: four years just so irregular for him to be in 341 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: that type of situation. But he did say, he was like, 342 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to come back and make it up to you. 343 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: He did that, went from third and seven to third 344 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: and two, and then he broke up the pass for 345 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: Wicks on that very next play. The tit for tat 346 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: there with the offensive defense. It goes without saying, but yeah, 347 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: I think twenty six year old quarterback a maturing leader. 348 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: I think this all comes around with it, but it 349 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: also does show his mastery for the game. I don't 350 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: know if you didn't you obviously wrote the piece, But 351 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 3: did you get a chance to watch the NFL Network 352 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: Top one hundred video on Jordan when he actually when 353 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: they actually. 354 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I did glance. I did glance through. 355 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: It, watching some of the NFL films footage of him 356 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: on the sideline and the way he carries himself. I mean, 357 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 3: there what I've always loved about Jordan since day one. 358 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: I think he's come out more of his shell as 359 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: a person. And as just a you know, a guy 360 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: in the locker room, but the cool, calm demeanor man 361 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: that is just you either have that or you don't. 362 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: And that man was born with it. Like just seeing 363 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: the way he acts on the sideline. And it's not 364 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: like it's not cockiness. It's not like some type of 365 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: weird Bravado or squager, but it is like literally just 366 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: a guy being incredibly comfortable in his skin. Yeah, in 367 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: every situation, even when the pressure is at its highest. 368 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a self assuredness to his demeanor and 369 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: his actions that it's not something that can be taught 370 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: or coached. Either you've got it or you don't. 371 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: And you see it on the practice field now, you know, 372 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: when they're going through the no huddle periods and when 373 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: they're just calling stuff at the line of scrimmage, he's 374 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: just there's no wasted amount of time out of you know, 375 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: anxiety or worry. 376 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: Or yeah, the emotions or anything like that. 377 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: It feels like time moves in slow motion when Jordan 378 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: Love is at the controls. And I feel like that 379 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: was one of the things that Matt Lafleur and these 380 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: guys knew when they were making that transition, they were 381 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: going to be able to count back on that. So 382 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: adding that into his repertoire, making that a part of 383 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: his game now obviously it makes it makes practice is 384 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: always fun when you get a guy jumping off sides 385 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: like that. 386 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Well, anything else from these first couple 387 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: of practices that you think it was worth commenting on 388 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: at this point before we call it a day. 389 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: Well, first, I got to apologize to all the women 390 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: in the forty nine to sixty four demographic. They don't 391 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: get to see this hair today. It got a little 392 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: sweat outside of practice. I apologize. I was joking with 393 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: you beforehand. I think this is the first time in 394 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: ten seasons doing this show I actually wore a hat. 395 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: But that's what happens when you shoot in the afternoon. 396 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've worn a hat a few times, just out 397 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: of necessity when we've had to shoot a show after practice, 398 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: because I need to wear a hat at practice to 399 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: kind of keep the sun off and try to protect 400 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: the the nose and the forehead from the burns a 401 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: little bit. 402 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, a very I wish I could isolate for 403 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: you one specific moment, but like, there's like eight things 404 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you have Nathaniel Hacketts back on the coaching 405 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: staff in a consultant way. But you know, Matt Lafleur 406 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 3: has been doing this now where he's brought in these 407 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: veteran assistants, some of whom have had experience in Green 408 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: Bay before Luke Getzi last year. I think back to 409 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: Tim Lester when he came in for that one season 410 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: as a senior assistant. Now as the offensive coordinator for Iowa, 411 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: Robert Sala, a close friend of the floor, came in 412 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: to assess the offense during the latter half last season. 413 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: Now Nathaniel Hackets back in an advisor type role, the 414 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: sort of the guy that was the face of the 415 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: gold zone offense, you know during those those high mark years. 416 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: Into the gold zone. 417 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: It's free too. 418 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I hear guys in the locker room 419 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: every once in a while they'll still say it still 420 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: comes up, still say gold zone. Yeah, it hasn't gone away. 421 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: Walking back from practice us about how that's still here. 422 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I heard about it. 423 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: But then also like, just look at we have a 424 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: brand new locker room. 425 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: For the Green Bay pack. 426 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: That was the other thing I was going to ask 427 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: you about. I know there are some cool videos on 428 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: the website. People want to check that out and the 429 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: photos and whatnot. You and I have actually been in 430 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: there now after each of the first two practices, as 431 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: somebody as somebody who has been here with Packers dot 432 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: Com since two thousand and six, which was just a 433 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: few years after the renovation, when and that locker room 434 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: back in. You know that the mid two thousands, like 435 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: that decade was pretty darn cool and it served the 436 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: packers well for a for a long stretch. But wow, 437 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: is this, I mean, this new locker room. All you 438 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: can say is wow, it's it's it's amazing. It's amazing 439 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: to me what it looks like now compared to what 440 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: it used to look like. 441 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: We were walking back for practice. 442 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: We were talking to some fans and I even said 443 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: it reminded me of something out of a sci fi movie. 444 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: Yes the way, look, I'm saying that in a compliment. 445 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: I mean just the led screens, the lighting they have, 446 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: drying units and mechanisms both for the helmets and the 447 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: shoulder pads. I mean, it's just the amount of technology 448 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: that's gone into it and the thought that's gone into it. 449 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: The guy's headshots are up there, their names are up there, 450 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: hometown's all that stuff, And it was funny. We were 451 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: talking with bou Melton. I don't know if you caught 452 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: this in the transcript. I think Jason Moldy put together 453 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: the shower system was changed too. We don't see that, 454 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: but both said, it's not just like a spickett on 455 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: top of the more now there's water. 456 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: Shooting out from the sides on that. 457 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: I mean like basically, the Packers cut no corners when 458 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: they came to elevating and adapting and renovating the locker room. 459 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: But you know, to Matt Lafleur's credit, and I wrote 460 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: this an Insider Inbox this week, he did say this 461 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: guarantees us nothing. It gives us no wins. It's a 462 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: nice luxury to have. They're thankful for it. They appreciate 463 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: the Packers' investment into it. But ultimately, the practice and 464 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: the preparation still happens on the grass. You still have 465 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: to perform on Sundays. But I mean, who doesn't want 466 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 3: to feel kind of cool? Right? We have brand new 467 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty three throwback uniforms. I mean, it is a 468 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: good time to be a Green Bay Packers fan and 469 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: obviously a good time to be a player as well. 470 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it, And I will say that was 471 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: definitely the message that was delivered. I think it was 472 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: delivered to the players, but then it's also been sort 473 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: of delivered through the media by Matt Lafleur and Brian Gutukountz. 474 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: With all of this stuff going on, the new locker 475 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: room and the new throwback uniforms and all the excitement 476 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: of the start of training camp and everything like that, 477 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: you can't lose sight of the fact as a football 478 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: team that there's a lot of work to be done. 479 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: You have to put in the work. As Brian Guducuntz 480 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: likes to say, you can't skip any steps along the way. 481 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: You can't just say because you've been to the playoffs 482 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: the last two years that it's that It's like, okay, 483 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: it's all about you know, it's all about trying to 484 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: do better in the playoffs. Well, no, you can't skip 485 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: any steps. You have to put in the work to 486 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: get there in the first place and to try to 487 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: get yourself in the best position possible. So this is 488 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: where it starts. There's all kinds of fun stuff going 489 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: on right now. But the message inside the walls and 490 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: certainly in those meeting rooms and in the locker room 491 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: that you know, fancy brand new locker room, is that 492 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to be done and embrace 493 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: the daily grind because because that's what's going to get 494 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: the Packers where they want to go. 495 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: We won't also have a chance to shoot a show 496 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: by the end of the week. Mark Murphy, his last 497 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: week on the job for the Green Bay Packers, would 498 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: be remiss if we did not quickly mention that a 499 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: credit to Mark all the innovations we've seen with the 500 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: locker room, with the NFL or you know, the coaching staff, 501 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: all of their facilities. You look at Title town, the 502 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: enormous impact he's made. Next month, we'll have another chance 503 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 3: to celebrate him as he goes into the Packers Hall 504 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: of Fame. So's right standing at practice for a few 505 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: minutes today, getting a chance to talk with them very cool, 506 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: and it's it's nice for when you look at a 507 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: guy that has done what he's done for as long 508 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: as he's done it all these different levels. You know, 509 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: whether it was working in the Justice department or whether 510 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: it was being an NFLPA rep or obviously All Pro safety, 511 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: the guy that was a two time Division one college 512 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: athletic director, a seventeen year executive for the Green Bay Packers. 513 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: You talk about somebody who's accomplished something in his life, 514 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: Mark Murphy has done that and then some so tip 515 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: of the cap to Mark as well. Yeah. 516 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the torch officially gets passed on Friday at the 517 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: shareholders meeting from Mark Murphy to ed policy and as 518 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: you said, we'll be able to reflect on some of 519 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: that a little bit more when about a month from now, 520 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy gets inducted as the sole inductee. In twenty 521 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty five, Mark Murphy gets inducted into the Packers Hall 522 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: of Fame. And that'll be a fun time as well. 523 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: So you're gonna go to seventy? Is that your plan? 524 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: Editory editor role of the Green Bay Packers can deserve 525 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: a seventy. 526 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Years If I'm still if I'm still editing your copy 527 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: when I'm seventy years old, something went wraw. I'll just say, 528 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: I'll just say that I don't think I don't think 529 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hanging around hanging around that long. But uh, 530 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: to those to those who do more. Power to you man. 531 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: So with that, we're gonna call it a rap on 532 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: this additional Packers unscript. I'd be sure to follow all 533 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: of our coverage of training camp. We got five Things stories, 534 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: three Things videos feature stories on players. It's all there 535 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: for you on packers dot com for Wes, I am Mike. 536 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We will see you 537 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: next time.