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Speaker 1: Hey, it's key On and this is Carly, your favorite

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime host, and we've got some great stories coming up.

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Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break

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Speaker 2: from the sponsors that keep the show alive. My mother

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Speaker 2: promised not to ignore my birthday, but she did. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's really mean. My birthday is December twenty eighth, and

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Speaker 2: my parents have consistently ignored it throughout my life. By

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Speaker 2: I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. Goofily.

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Speaker 2: We don't have all the answers. We only know what

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Speaker 2: we do, so let us know what you do in

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Speaker 2: the comments. As Opie says, we usually visit family that

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Speaker 2: lives four hours away during the holidays, or more often

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Speaker 2: than not, the weekends after the holidays. If the holidays

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Speaker 2: is in the middle of the week. This means almost

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Speaker 2: every year we are set up there on the twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not so bad because the twenty eighth is

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Speaker 2: a Friday or a Sunday, and we do the Christmas

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Speaker 2: celebration on Saturday, but even then it still goes completely uncelebrated,

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Speaker 2: and I am lucky to even get a happy birthday

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Speaker 2: from them. I've expressed my dislike of this suddenly throughout

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Speaker 2: my life, but not as directly as I should have

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Speaker 2: until now, and even now I'm still not sure what

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Speaker 2: to say. We have some additional context saying they did

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Speaker 2: the same crap. At my wedding, we announced our engagement,

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Speaker 2: and my sister decided to get engaged and announce hers

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Speaker 2: right after us and hold her ceremony the same year,

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Speaker 2: just slightly after us. Some family came in from across

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Speaker 2: the country for her wedding, but not for mine. I

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Speaker 2: have a sister who was born in early January and

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Speaker 2: pretends to relate, but as far as I can remember,

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Speaker 2: we've never had to celebrate the birth of what many

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Speaker 2: people consider to be the Lord and Savior on the

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Speaker 2: same day as when we celebrate her birthday. Mine, on

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Speaker 2: the other hand, is usually a crapshoot on if I'm

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Speaker 2: going to have a birthday or not. Here's how it

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Speaker 2: usually plays out. We literally have a play by play

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Speaker 2: from op the fact that we have a play by

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Speaker 2: play means this happens pretty often when it happens every year, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 1: I have a best friend with that birthday that day,

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Speaker 1: and they are definitely is a way to make sure

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Speaker 1: it's still celebrated as your separate day.

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Speaker 2: But I have said, like that period of twenty December

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Speaker 2: like that last week of December and the New Year,

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Speaker 2: like everyone's focused on Christmas Eve, Christmas Honka, whatever the

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Speaker 2: big celebrations are for whatever you celebrate, and then New Year's.

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Speaker 2: Anything in between those days usually is just like a

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Speaker 2: blank slate of nothingness.

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Speaker 1: Unless they're trying, which is totally possible to do because

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Speaker 1: I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Here's the play by play. We go visit my

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Speaker 2: family the first weekend after Christmas. We stay at their

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Speaker 2: house with my entire family. It's a big house, many rooms,

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Speaker 2: big family, The whole family's there. When twenty eighth, my

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Speaker 2: birthday rolls around, we wake up, maybe one person acknowledges

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Speaker 2: that they'll throw out a half hearted oh hey, uh,

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Speaker 2: happy birthday, and then move on to talk about Christmas dinner.

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Speaker 2: When we're gonna open Christmas presents? How excited we are

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Speaker 2: effectively been overshadowed by that long haired stranger from two

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Speaker 2: point the finger at Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Why is he overshadowing her birthday? His was days before, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what Christmas is.

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Speaker 2: I think, Ohpie's a hey, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Ohpie's birthday was days before, right? The twenty fifth is right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, twenty eighth. No, Jesus, Jesus is twenty fifth, but

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Speaker 3: It's o Pea's turn.

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Speaker 2: But also canonically and historically not really his birthday. But

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Speaker 1: Well, either way, I don't really care about his birthday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know I sound bitter and probably selfish. But if

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Speaker 1: Your birthday President shouldn't even be wrapped in Christmas wrapping paper.

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Speaker 2: These are separate things.

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Speaker 3: That is a crime.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and so many well wishes have gone well unwished. Again.

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Speaker 2: This stuff used to not phase me because I was

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Speaker 2: really happy with just a simple, happy birthday. That's all

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Speaker 2: But this year my parents have almost purposely gone out

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Speaker 2: making the twenty eighth on Saturday. It's rare that my

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Speaker 2: birthdays on a Saturday, but it happened like four or

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Speaker 2: is always the chosen delayed Christmas day. My entire family

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Speaker 2: was there, my wife wished me happy birthday. My parents did,

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Speaker 2: I think my sister did, and that was it. The

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Speaker 2: She asked why I wasn't really that upset about it

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Speaker 2: my family's Christmas Day on my birthday, which happens every

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Speaker 2: now and then. I was pretty disheartened. Watching a couple

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Speaker 2: the weekend after Christmas slash after my birthday so we

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Speaker 2: She said sure, I said, it doesn't matter what day,

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Speaker 2: my wife even chipped it and said he hasn't had

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Speaker 2: twenty eighth, and we'll go on the following weekend. Fine,

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Speaker 2: my entire family won't be there for Christmas, but hey,

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Speaker 2: I see my sister all the time. No big deal.

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Speaker 2: Today, I was in the neighborhood, so I stopped at

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Speaker 2: brought up our Christmas plans. She said, hey, since we

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Speaker 2: up once instead of both times. Is that okay? Not

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Speaker 2: knowing what she was getting, I said sure, why would

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Speaker 2: we'll probably go up with her then already I was

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Speaker 2: a little disheartened because somehow she found a way to

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Speaker 2: and organize the family Christmas to be on the twenty eighth,

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Speaker 2: my birthday. But I didn't know the extent at this point.

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Speaker 1: I think you can't expect to celebrate with that side

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, I was gonna say a couple of things,

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Speaker 2: op Well, take a little pause here. I think one

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Speaker 2: because you and it's not your fault. It's just because

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Speaker 2: just like all I wanted was a happy birthday. That's like,

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Speaker 2: that's that's it.

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Speaker 3: They weren't even doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, I say, have one with your friends

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Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah. Like, but I think it's just because

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Speaker 2: Opie had Oh, all I need is a happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy. That's it. I don't need anything else. They

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Speaker 4: They weren't happy.

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Speaker 5: They weren't even getting that.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even getting the happy birthdays from Ebery when

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Speaker 1: he got happy birthday from me one person.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly, because he did. Opie didn't bring anything up.

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Speaker 2: But they're like, oh, he doesn't say anything, which is.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been voiced enough.

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Speaker 2: He's your birthday. This is the first time OPI's brought

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Speaker 2: it up. Opie has never like Opie's internalized it. He says,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the fact that you've brought this up and

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Speaker 2: will be there. Flashbacks to my wedding silently play in

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Speaker 2: being grateful. She asks one year what kind of coat

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Speaker 2: I wanted, and I said, any classic, button up peacoat

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just start celebrating your birthday with other people,

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Speaker 2: At least I'll be with my wife. And even though

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, but yeah, you You've known this for your

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Speaker 6: Uh who am I Cinderella?

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Speaker 2: Ooh a fairy tale. My family has an unusual dynamic.

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Speaker 2: Both me, twenty four female, and my sister twenty seven female,

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Speaker 2: I was always taught to fend for myself and that

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Speaker 2: As Opie says, my sister, on the other hand, was

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Speaker 2: I need to know more because this sounds all bad.

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Speaker 2: You had zero childhood? Okay, why do your parents hate you?

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Speaker 2: My parents ended up punting her out at twenty five,

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Speaker 2: You're not. My parents were clear when they punted her

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Speaker 6: so far binga. Yeah, and it sounds like this person

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Speaker 6: I feel like your grandma. I feel bad for your

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Speaker 2: She's going to be moving between one of our cousins

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Speaker 2: Let's get right into it. Yeah. Update. My sister wasn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, and our parents are divorced. Neither of us has

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Speaker 2: They think me being the breadwinner of the family means

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Speaker 2: I'm moving across the country and resuming work. The new

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Speaker 2: of that story. Opie. I'll tell you this right now.

435
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,199
Speaker 2: You don't owe anyone in your family anything. They've treated

436
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: you like you've been You had to work at thirteen,

437
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: and they're judging you now. They didn't judge your parents

438
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 2: when you were thirteen, saying, oh, if you want to

439
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: live on the under this roof, you have to take

440
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: care of yourself, pay for it and pay for your sister. What. Yeah, Yeah,

441
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: your family sucks.

442
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Speaker 6: It's it's tough, and I'm trying to be in as

443
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 6: much trying to be as much Devil's advocate as you can.

444
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 6: But I would like if you helped your sister at all,

445
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 6: there would have to be conditions and it'd have to

446
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 6: be like, I will only help you if you've proven

447
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 6: that you've gotten a job and you've been able to

448
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 6: maintain that job. But that Ugh, that whole situation. I'm

449
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 6: just so sorry for you. Yeah, it sounds like you're

450
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 6: getting far away from it, which is great. I'm sorry

451
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 6: you have to distance yourself from your family, but now

452
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Speaker 6: you get a chance to make your own chosen family exactly,

453
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Speaker 6: which is where it's at.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, do what's best for you, and that's that,

455
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: and that's the end of this story. We're going on

456
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Speaker 2: to the next one.

457
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Speaker 3: I went to Japan for my dream trip and spent

458
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Speaker 3: it running errands for my in laws.

459
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Speaker 7: Come on, I really want to go and see the

460
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Speaker 7: Pokemon Park.

461
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Speaker 3: So Japan has been my dream destination as far as I,

462
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: thirty six male, can remember. I grew up on Dragon

463
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 3: Ball Z and then over time picked up interest in

464
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: a lot of anime as well. So it does seem

465
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Speaker 3: like you weren't far off Savannah and always saw Japan

466
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Speaker 3: as this country living in twenty forty while we're all

467
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 3: lagging behind. I'm currently out of trip with my spouse

468
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Speaker 3: thirty five female and her friends, three of them. By

469
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Speaker 3: the way, this comes from Big Juice fifty two to

470
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Speaker 3: ninety And if you want to smit your own stories,

471
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Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay storytime, suped it. I'm Sofia,

472
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 3: I'm Savannah, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good

473
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Speaker 3: avice goofy. But we don't have all the answers. We

474
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: only know what we'd do, So let us know what

475
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: you would do in the comments and nope, he says.

476
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: Her closest friend adores her obviously and doesn't question how

477
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Speaker 3: the itinerary has been panning out. The other two people

478
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: are also nice enough to not call her out or

479
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: anything from what I've been seeing. So basically, my brother

480
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: in law and sister in law very well to do,

481
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: wanted a bunch of stuff from Japan. Whether my wife

482
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Speaker 3: offered or imposed, I don't know. My wife's love language

483
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: with her family is active servitude for sure, so going

484
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Speaker 3: out of the way to get stuff.

485
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Speaker 5: For them usually flies.

486
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Speaker 3: This time, though, we've gone on a trip with a

487
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Speaker 3: bunch of other friends and I just spent the entire

488
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Speaker 3: day getting a turn car to visit the Onitsuka.

489
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Speaker 2: Oh, the on Itsuka store.

490
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Speaker 4: I went there in ginzo on.

491
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Speaker 2: It'suka Tiger's baby. Those are the kill bill shoes.

492
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Speaker 5: Oh, I haven't seen Bill. I don't know what anyone's

493
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Speaker 5: talking about.

494
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Speaker 3: Bill is a Tarantino movie. She's wearing that yellow suit

495
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: and uh, she's like in Ginza for my brother in law,

496
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: and then planning the rest of the day for all

497
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: of us around this place so we could pick up

498
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Speaker 3: the shoe. It's not such a hard custom job to do.

499
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: They sew in four letters on each shoe. Being from India,

500
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: it seems like something any basic tailor could do for us.

501
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: We left around ten in the morning and now it's

502
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Speaker 3: seven thirty one. I'm sitting in the store waiting for

503
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Speaker 3: this thing with my sister in law. She wanted a

504
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: bag from a luxury brand, and Japan being great for

505
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 3: second hand high quality stuff, we visited a number of

506
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: stores from the day we landed to finally picking up

507
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Speaker 3: one with the grade that fit what she was looking for.

508
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: This meant going to different stores, calling her, showcasing the

509
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Speaker 3: stuff to her on a video call, and then getting

510
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 3: the yay or nay. Obviously they're well to do so

511
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: they'll pay us back for the items we sourced. We

512
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: had to spend the entire day around this area that

513
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: I finally asked the others to go back to the

514
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Speaker 3: hotel and head to an area of anime and gaming.

515
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Speaker 3: By the time we got free just me and her,

516
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: the area that I wanted to go to had closed.

517
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Speaker 5: This is too much.

518
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Speaker 3: I think that, like you should have a base sick

519
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: idea of what you want to get someone and maybe

520
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: like they, you know, have given you a little bit

521
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: of a hint at what they want from you know,

522
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: your travels. But usually you know, I'll say, Okay, I

523
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: know this friend likes coffee or I know this friend

524
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 3: likes tea, and then if we're like in the area

525
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 3: of that, you know, I don't. I don't plan it

526
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: around going to that place most of the time unless

527
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I know they really want that, But it's

528
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: usually just like, oh, this looks like a cool coffee shop,

529
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Speaker 3: or like, oh this stuff has This place that we

530
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: just passed has a lot of cool stuff. I think

531
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Speaker 3: they would like that. I feel like this, like it

532
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: seems like you're just going on this trip to shop

533
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Speaker 3: for your friends or your family.

534
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of what I also was picking up,

535
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 7: Like I understand, like, you know, there's not a responsibility

536
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 7: when you go places to have to bring things back

537
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Speaker 7: to someone.

538
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: No, I think it's nice. I think it's really nice. Yeah,

539
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: at this point. I told the others who had reached

540
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Speaker 3: the hotel to come meet us at the tower now

541
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Speaker 3: after they pick up with the shoe.

542
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Speaker 5: I told her that I'm gonna tell.

543
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: Her family that this doesn't fly, and that I don't

544
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: give a crap what they think when I say it,

545
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: and I'm one hundred percent I'm gonna tell them. She

546
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: then flipped it on me, saying, how effing dare I

547
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: call her family crap? I didn't, and that this is

548
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: our family. She cares deeply about them, and I have

549
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: no right to say this to that.

550
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Speaker 5: Am I the ale? Or should I just confront them?

551
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: And we've got some edits, But what do you think

552
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: before we get into those edits?

553
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Speaker 7: I mean, you can just explain that, like, hey, I

554
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 7: know that, like you know your family, you maybe promised

555
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 7: them you would bring them back all this stuff, blah

556
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 7: blah blah, But that's not like the main reason that

557
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 7: we're here. Can we please take at least, you know,

558
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Speaker 7: like like our whole trip should not be revolved around

559
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 7: like what we need to get for people, Like then

560
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 7: that's not fun. Then you're literally just running errands on

561
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Speaker 7: a trip. And it's like, you know, I want to

562
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Speaker 7: go to this place. I wanna do that, especially if

563
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Speaker 7: it's like your dream vacation. You probably already know that

564
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 7: you like some things that you want to do, and

565
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 7: already have an idea of all these things. You know

566
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 7: in your head how much time we have for each thing,

567
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 7: and how it's gonna work out, like you have a

568
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Speaker 7: schedule in your mind.

569
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Speaker 3: So the fact that like she's.

570
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Speaker 7: Like, well, you know, I promised my sister I would

571
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Speaker 7: get this like bag for her, so we have to

572
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 7: spend five hours looking for it, Like that's just no.

573
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 7: I would be like, listen, if you want to do

574
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 7: your like family stuff, you can go ahead. Although I

575
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 7: would love if you could come with me and do

576
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 7: all the stuff that.

577
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 5: I want to do.

578
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 7: But I am going to go and do the stuff

579
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Speaker 7: that I came here to do because when else, I

580
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 7: don't just go somewhere to like buy stuff, I go

581
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 7: somewhere to experience it, like really taking the culture and

582
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 7: taking like what's there. Of course you're going to bring

583
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 7: back souvenirs and stuff. That's just what you do because

584
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 7: how fun.

585
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Speaker 3: I mean often I don't buys like I buy souvenirs

586
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: very rarely. You know, it's the same it's like it's

587
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: just not my thing, you know, it's it's not really why.

588
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, some people get like, uh, like magnets of like

589
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 7: everywhere they go.

590
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: Or I got a magnet when I was in Guatemala

591
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: and I got this, but that was because my friend

592
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: and I it was a two can and I love

593
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Speaker 3: two cans, and my friend Isabella also got matching one.

594
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: But I have this one.

595
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: That's what I got from Gleatema. Yes, the itinerary was established,

596
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: but it kept changing on the fly every time we

597
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: saw a second hand store or on itsuka store, so

598
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: priorities were changing too quickly for my comfort. Trip is

599
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: ten days long.

600
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is literally me two guys.

601
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: Three girls.

602
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: Only two girls are in for the shopping at full steam.

603
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: One of them does window shopping only where Indian and

604
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: my wife isn't super independent and culturally it'll get a

605
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: lot of backlash from the family if I let her

606
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: go by herself. Second time in Tokyo had previously come

607
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: for work, was a very broke young adult, so did

608
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: all the sites on foot across the city and company

609
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: per Diem helped me try out a lot of the

610
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: food before that sounds awesome. There are food spots in

611
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: the itinerary that we are trying to hit, but not

612
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: all work out due to the constant poll from brother

613
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: in law and sister in law. Yes we have hit

614
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: cultural spots, not yet since none of the others are

615
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: interested sticking around for the common good of the groups

616
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: to steer things to tourism. And we've got a verdict,

617
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: which is a whole.

618
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Speaker 7: I don't think that you're the ahole. I think you

619
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 7: want to enjoy your vacation, Like, why is that an

620
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 7: a hole move?

621
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: But we've got an update. Thank you to the folks

622
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: that reached out and gave suggestions of places I could

623
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: head to out on my own to make my trip

624
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: more Fulfilling people attacking me for mentioning anime and Japan

625
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: being in twenty forty while being closer to forty.

626
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Speaker 5: I don't know what to say. We all have our passions.

627
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: Yes, there were more reasons than anime for Japan food,

628
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: so Chorus season war that grounded most flights heading west

629
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: from India. And it doesn't matter what your age is.

630
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: If you like something, go for it. Today my wife

631
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: wanted to head to a cafe, but I broke off

632
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: and headed to Akiobara with the other two. We went

633
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: through watch shops, arcades and bonded over gaming and anime.

634
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: Wife was pissed for an hour or two, but came

635
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 3: around once you joined up with us and saw that

636
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: the electric city is actually pretty cool.

637
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 7: I just don't like how this family is kind of

638
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 7: ruining the trip for you when they're not even there.

639
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're not even with us. You guys go

640
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: and then you can get all the stuff you want.

641
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And they probably wouldn't.

642
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: They probably would not spend their time doing this to

643
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: the same extent that they're making Ope do it. Addressing

644
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: this separately twenty forty because I'm from India and we're

645
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: still in a pretty terrible state, so seeing such a connected,

646
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: technologically forwarded country is awesome, Like the maglev trains are

647
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: still probably fifty or more years away from us. Understand

648
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: that this is a pretty common scenario that plays out

649
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: on trips with a lot of people sharing their experiences,

650
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: And yes, I could have handled it better when the

651
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: trip started to revolve around their needs instead of us

652
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: actually being turous is when I snapped. I intend to

653
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: set clear boundaries with the in laws in the future,

654
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: asking them to order stuff to our hotel only for pickup,

655
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: and not having us run around the country for them.

656
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 5: And that's the end of the story.

657
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 7: I agree with Opie one hundred percent. I don't think

658
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 7: your vacation should be spent trying to please other people. No, no, No,

659
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 7: vacation is a vacation to get away.

660
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: You're not a delivery person, you know.

661
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story. And we've got another.

662
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: One coming right up.

663
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: Hey, it's key on the Silly's goose. We're going to

664
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: get back to the stories. But here's three minutes of

665
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: ads from our sponsors.

666
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 7: I found my husband's phone open. He had eight girlfriends

667
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 7: and had been geening for months.

668
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: That's too many so cheating with AI?

669
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: What which?

670
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 7: I never thought I'd be typing in a million years.

671
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 7: Way freaking time to be alive? What off for recking

672
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 7: time to be alive? Last night I went to go

673
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 7: wake my husband up on the couch and saw that

674
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 7: he'd left his phone open on his chest. It was

675
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 7: large paragraphs from a woman and shorter responses from him.

676
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 7: I immediately feel my stomach dropped my freaking ball. My

677
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 7: hand is up taking a picture before I even know

678
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 7: what I'm doing. By the way, this comes from Zone

679
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 7: any eighty four seventy five, And if you want to

680
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 7: submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay

681
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 7: story time subreddit. I'm Savannah, I'm so via.

682
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: Ke, and we are here to give some good advice in.

683
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: A little goofy manner.

684
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: We don't have all your answers.

685
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 7: We don't let you know what we would do in

686
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: this situation, but you should tell us what you would

687
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 7: do in the comments. As Op says, upon further analysis,

688
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 7: it seemed to be a spicy bot app.

689
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: Oh okay, in and.

690
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 7: Of itself, that's not really an issue for me. Corn

691
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 7: doesn't bother me at all. But he called her babe,

692
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 7: which is what he calls me.

693
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: So now I'm suspicious.

694
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 7: Af So of course I go back in there and

695
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 7: record a screen as I scroll through not one, but

696
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 7: eight simultaneous AI girlfriends, each chatted with a few days apart,

697
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 7: sometimes less. Holy crap, guys, if this was just a

698
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 7: spicy sleep thing, I would be concerned, but not scared

699
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 7: for my marriage. But he is taking them on little

700
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 7: virtual dates, saying I love you and calling them pet names,

701
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 7: having graphic role play spicy sleep with them.

702
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 5: The whole freaking nine whoa, Okay, this guy's got an issue.

703
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta fix that. We gotta

704
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: fix that by leaving, or I mean, have a conversation.

705
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: Talk to him first, see if you can work through there.

706
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for him, Like, baby, it's not cheating,

707
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: and they're not real.

708
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: They're not real.

709
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: It's like yeah, but honestly, it's not even the cheating

710
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: that is getting to me.

711
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: It's just you're a freak. You're just WHOA don't yuck

712
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: is yum?

713
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

714
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: No, I'm yucking.

715
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm yucking. That's that's yucking a yuck yuck.

716
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 7: He has been distant for months. Okay, every time I

717
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 7: bring it up, he said his libido is down. I've

718
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 7: expressed my concerns for him and our intimate relationships several

719
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 7: times and always been brushed off. Yikes, guess I know why.

720
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 7: He hasn't taken me on a date in eight months.

721
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 7: He has gotten me flowers once on Valentine's Day, which

722
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: was all he got me despite promising more. Yikes, we

723
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 7: barely have spicy sleep. Despite my attempts, I ended up

724
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 7: sneaking out and going to my best friend's house. I

725
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 7: came back and we talked. He was very apologetic, but

726
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 7: also tried to lie and say I don't really do it.

727
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 7: Video evidence would suggest otherwise. And I promise I don't

728
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 7: think about them when we have spicy sleep.

729
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 5: Think about what.

730
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry now that you said that. I think that

731
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: you're thinking about them while we have spicy sleep. And

732
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: what do you mean don't think about them?

733
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: Like?

734
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: Literally, what are you thinking about? The computer's green?

735
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: Great?

736
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 7: I wasn't thinking about that, but now I am. And

737
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 7: my favorite told me he deleted everything, even though he

738
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 7: wasn't sure if that is why I left, so he

739
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 7: knew it was wrong from the start, or he wouldn't

740
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 7: have done that. I gave him a chance to come

741
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 7: clean about anything else, and he said he hasn't done anything.

742
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 5: We will see, I guess.

743
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 7: Told him we are doing marriage counseling, which he has

744
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 7: always been against, and that I'm going to need time

745
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 7: to think about this. He agreed and promised to be

746
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 7: a better husband, but he's made promises he won't keep before.

747
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 5: I guess.

748
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 7: I'm just at a loss. We are so young and

749
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 7: have only been married for a little over a year.

750
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 7: We have had a very stable, trusting relationship up until

751
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 7: this point. But I don't know if I can get

752
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 7: over this.

753
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: There are some comments.

754
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: You can't say you had a very stable, loving relationship

755
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: up until this point when it's been going on.

756
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: For eight months.

757
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you also said the past eight months.

758
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's sods.

759
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: Almost the entirety of your marriage has been unstable.

760
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 7: That's true, because they said it, Yeah, the entirety of

761
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 7: your marriage. So I don't know. Maybe maybe he wasn't

762
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 7: ready to get married.

763
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 5: Or maybe I don't know.

764
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 7: It just seems like, yeah, I feel like therapy would

765
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 7: help him.

766
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

767
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: I just don't understand, because this type of stuff usually

768
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: happens when either this person does not have a relationship,

769
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: you know, and is lonely and relies on this, or

770
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: there's some kind of deficiency in the relationship, which it

771
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: seems like the deficiency only happened after he started doing this.

772
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 5: So what's going on?

773
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 7: We got some elephant comments comment to one. A good

774
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: question to ask is if this behavior itself is a

775
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 7: short term change or just an escalation of an existing pattern.

776
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 7: Has he always had a relationship with Korn? Has he

777
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 7: had emotional affairs? Was the distance slash lack of spicy

778
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 7: sleep something that only started months ago or was it

779
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 7: a gradual decline over years? Oh, he responds, I've been

780
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 7: unhappy for a long time, So.

781
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: You're lying to us. Girl, you just said we've had

782
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: a happy relationship.

783
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: Make up your mind.

784
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 7: He's not great at making me feel like a wife.

785
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 7: I feel like we are best friends who live together.

786
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 7: Sometimes no dates, no spot to sleep turns me down

787
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 7: when I make an effort to dress up. And I

788
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 7: was the only one who made most of the effort

789
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 7: in our relationship before we got married.

790
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: Some issues before, girl, you lied.

791
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this relationship I think is uh has reached its end.

792
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 7: But this is a whole new element to the story.

793
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 7: I really love him and he's absolutely my best friend.

794
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 7: So I'm really trying to make things work. But I

795
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 7: would need to see serious change to not leave. Plus

796
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 7: we eloped initially, and I'm in the process of planning

797
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 7: our wedding ceremony right now. I really don't want to

798
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 7: drag my whole family out of state just to cancel

799
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 7: or find something out at the last minute. Ugh, gonna

800
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 7: lose some deposits. I fear commnation. A number four says

801
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 7: adding to what everyone else has said, if you don't

802
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 7: have kids, don't get pregnant, make sure you have really

803
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 7: good birth control just in case you decide to wait

804
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 7: and see. Oh, he responds, yes, I fear it's time

805
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 7: to go on birth control.

806
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: Really you're not even on it?

807
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: Well yea, their birth control was abstinence, but that's true. Also, yeah,

808
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: are you even having spicy sleep up? Because she's like, yeah,

809
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: time to go on. We're not sleeping together though.

810
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: Doubt I see.

811
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 7: I don't think that they have had it since they

812
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 7: got married, and I really feel like that is like

813
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 7: the issues all started after you eloped, So like, I

814
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 7: don't know that you have to talk to him about something.

815
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 7: Something has definitely switched in his brain and you need

816
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 7: to like get to the bottom of it now. Yes,

817
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 7: wasn't before because I wasn't against having kids and we

818
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 7: usually pulled out, you know, but now is absolutely not

819
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 7: the time for that. There's adfictional information from opian another post.

820
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: Uh, there's an update.

821
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 7: I was going to take this down because I felt

822
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 7: sad thinking about him finding out people think he's a loser,

823
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 7: But then on my video taken of his chat histories analysis,

824
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 7: I realized that several of them are cheating fantasies and

825
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 7: the rest are all either recreations of my personality without

826
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 7: any of my flaws speaking up for myself, being independent,

827
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 7: being smart?

828
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: What what.

829
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 8: Yo?

830
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 7: This guy's crazy or recreations of things we have done

831
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 7: during spicy sleep that he has recycled for AI women.

832
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 7: It's not a compliment. He just isn't creative enough to

833
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: come up with anything that isn't from my delicious, delicious

834
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 7: body and incredible skills.

835
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: I don't understand why he wants you but not you

836
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: like that's weird to me.

837
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 7: Might punt him out. There are some relevant comments. Commenter

838
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 7: one says, I know I will probably get banned and downloaded,

839
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 7: but what the f is a guy even doing with

840
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 7: an AI girlfriend when he is dating someone and a

841
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 7: of them. Maybe you weren't as understanding as he wanted,

842
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 7: but effing eight, what an effing loser.

843
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: Look.

844
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 7: I'm not going to say that there is no fault

845
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 7: in both parties. You need to look into what pushed

846
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 7: him to that too. All I can say queens don't

847
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 7: beg peasants for attention. But maybe you weren't the queen

848
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 7: you thought you were.

849
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

850
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: I think this guy's a freaking weirdo. And yeah, maybe

851
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: there were some flaws in the relationship, but uh, I

852
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: don't know if you can fix him now.

853
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 7: Honestly, I kind of agree with Petty Potatoes. He wants

854
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 7: to give her.

855
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 5: A mute button.

856
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh Pe responds, It's okay to beg for attention

857
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 7: from your husband.

858
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 5: Question Mark.

859
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 7: I'm definitely not perfect, but I've always tried to be

860
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 7: open and honest with him. Even after this, I didn't

861
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 7: yell or get mad or anything. I never really do

862
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 7: with him. He's just always been super reserved, you know.

863
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I've asked myself what I could have done differently,

864
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: and I really can't come up with anything. And I'm

865
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 7: a pretty introspective person over response to sharing experiences. It's

866
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 7: justin marriage counseling. If her husband's on medication, oh Pe responds,

867
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 7: thank you for this advice. It means a lot to

868
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 7: hear about this from a more personal perspective. He's not

869
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 7: on antidepressants, but I think he is very depressed. I

870
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 7: told him that a stipulation of me staying was for

871
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 7: him to go to individual counseling with some sort of

872
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 7: focus on regular.

873
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: Use and oppression.

874
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 7: He agreed, so that's a good step forward. I think

875
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 7: I also think that that is a very good step forward.

876
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I think counseling is needed because we need to

877
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of why he's acting like this.

878
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 7: Oh this is Opie clarifies her reasons for believing that

879
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 7: her husband is cheating. For having an active imagination, Opie responds, hmm, well,

880
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 7: he did it with the intention of cheating and had

881
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 7: an emotional connection with the bots.

882
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: If I read.

883
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 7: Smut, I know it's a story, and I treat it

884
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 7: like it's a story. I don't treat the characters like

885
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 7: they're real and tell them I love them and take

886
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 7: them on dates and spicy sleep, role play as myself

887
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 7: and design them to my exact specifications. You know, I've

888
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 7: never played love in Deep Space, and I don't play

889
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 7: dating sims for that reason, just a boundary for me.

890
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 7: It was also affecting our relationship, which makes it either

891
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 7: cheating or at best a corn regular use of corn.

892
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: I don't think.

893
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 5: It's the same is using a dating sim.

894
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: I think dating sims usually have, you know, kind of

895
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: very specific dialogue options, and you're not really choosing a lot,

896
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: it's mostly just for fun. And also, yes, there is

897
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: a realization that these things are not real and there

898
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: is an end with the chat bots. As you said,

899
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: he completely designed them. He's clearly forming an emotional attachment

900
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: to them and is also having cheating fantasies with them,

901
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: so that, yeah, it's all very.

902
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: It's active. Like you know, when you're reading a book,

903
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, you read the book, and yes, that's

904
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: you can use your imagination.

905
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 7: Visualize it as you read it, so you like see

906
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 7: it happen. It's kind of like a movie, but you're reading.

907
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: It but you're not. It's like, I'm not telling the

908
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: character in the book to be like do this, do that.

909
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I'm reading the story. It's yeah, it's

910
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: very You can't compare the two.

911
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 7: I think you're being deliberately oub to about what I'm

912
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 7: saying here. You don't have to agree with me, but

913
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 7: you also don't have to misconstrut what I'm saying to

914
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 7: make a point A, everyone has different boundaries in a relationship.

915
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 7: We both consider it cheating, so it's cheating for our relationship.

916
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: That's how relationships work. Be a creative writing exercise writing

917
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 7: a fan fiction about a character you enjoy to explore

918
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 7: different aspects of their story. Same creative writing exercise, but

919
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 7: now cheating to me putting the character into AI and

920
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: fostering a month's long relationship where you tell the character

921
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 7: that you love them, have role plays, spice to sleep

922
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 7: with them as yourself, and role play dates with them

923
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 7: to the point where you no longer have a loving

924
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 7: relationship with your wife because it is taking hours out

925
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: of your night and you have rotted your brain with

926
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 7: AI coorn and can't find weird real women attractive. You

927
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 7: are also not putting any effort into what you're writing

928
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 7: to them because you're not doing it as a creative

929
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 7: writing exercise. You're doing it because you want to cheat

930
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 7: on your wife but don't want to find real women.

931
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 7: So take the second one and multiply it by eight.

932
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: Hmmm.

933
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 5: I guess it's because.

934
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 7: To me, giving love and excessive attention to a humanoid

935
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 7: man slash woman is emotional cheating. Regardless of whether or

936
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 7: not they are real people or if he considers them real,

937
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 7: his actions reflect a level of deceit and emotional attachment.

938
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 5: I agree.

939
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 7: I agree that it is like the actions not. I

940
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 7: mean it is very much emotional like cheating, emotional cheating,

941
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 7: and technically it's not physical because that can't be a thing,

942
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 7: but because they have no physical body, But if they

943
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 7: were physical people, it would be physically cheating.

944
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

945
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 7: So if it was just a corn thing, I wouldn't

946
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 7: be this upset and he wouldn't hide it. We've always

947
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 7: been open about corn in our relationship, and even though

948
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: I think AI corn is gross, I wouldn't have considered

949
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 7: it cheating. But his use of them went beyond that

950
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 7: saying I love you, calling them the pet names he

951
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 7: calls me, role playing dates in detail, and making sure

952
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 7: that they don't have any of my negative qualities.

953
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: That is cheating to me.

954
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 7: Cheating is a breach of trust in a relationship, or

955
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 7: it's outsourcing emotional slash romantic needs to a woman who

956
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 7: isn't your spouse. I know that they're not real, but

957
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 7: he made the deliberate decision to download and adjust them

958
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 7: to his exact specifications, and then he hit it from

959
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 7: me for months because he was doing it with the

960
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 7: intention of having romantic connections with women outside of his wife,

961
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 7: something we both consider cheating. I do think that it

962
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 7: probably started off as a gooning thing, but devolved into

963
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 7: something worse over time. But when I confronted him, he

964
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 7: looked like a man who had been caught cheating and

965
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 7: admitted to cheating with no prompting from me. To me,

966
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 7: his intention plays a big part in to my perception

967
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 7: of this. I get that it's a gray area. I'm

968
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 7: not saying that you have to agree with me, but

969
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 7: when I found out, I felt the same as I

970
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 7: had when I'd been cheated on in previous relationships. I

971
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 7: haven't been able to justify his actions to myself as

972
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 7: anything else, in spite of trying. COMMENTO two says, is

973
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 7: it really cheating if it's not a person?

974
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 5: What do you think?

975
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 4: Yes?

976
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 5: I mean, like yes and no.

977
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Are you capable of having a fully physical and romantic

978
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: and emotional relationship with a thing that doesn't actually exist?

979
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 7: No?

980
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: But are you trying to anyway?

981
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

982
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 5: And I think it's.

983
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: The intent that is the betrayal here.

984
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 7: Ohp he responds, having any romantic emotional connection with something

985
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 7: that's not me is cheating. Everyone is different, though, and

986
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 7: everyone has different boundaries in a relationship.

987
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: No need to agree.

988
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 7: Oh there's an update two weeks later from the previous post,

989
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 7: I mean, what do you.

990
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 3: Think, I don't know. Do we think they're still together?

991
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 7: I would probably say that they're probably done. I don't

992
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 7: know how.

993
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: We can get back together. As long as you delete

994
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: your eight girlfriends.

995
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to unlive them all.

996
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 7: I am the eight AI girlfriend's girl. Yes, that's how

997
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 7: I introduce myself.

998
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 5: Now.

999
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 7: I stole this piece of pizza from soon to be

1000
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 7: ex husband's dinner in the fridge. Now I had boxing

1001
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 7: again to hit something on my post. I talked a

1002
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 7: lot about wanting to work things out, and at the

1003
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 7: time it was true. But I had a week alone

1004
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 7: and it really made me realize that I don't actually

1005
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 7: want to stay with him at all.

1006
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 5: The thought of leaving made.

1007
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 7: Me feel so free and hopeful for the first time

1008
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 7: in over a year. And that's how you know you

1009
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 7: did the right thing.

1010
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how you know. It's like, oh, wait, I

1011
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: feel good.

1012
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like you spend a week and be like, oh,

1013
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 7: I'm not like constantly thinking about this because I don't

1014
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 7: have to, because it's not my freaking problem anymore.

1015
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: Not my problem anymore. I'm out of here. Great, you

1016
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: feel free and happy.

1017
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 7: I ended up writing a huge list of all the

1018
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 7: reasons I wanted a divorce, and I got so pissed

1019
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 7: off that I submitted the petition without letting myself stop

1020
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 7: and question it. I felt like I dropped a huge

1021
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 7: weight off my shoulders as soon as I paid the

1022
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 7: three hundred and eighty six dollars Jesus Christ. There's been

1023
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 7: some discourse on this sub recently regarding women in crappy

1024
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 7: situations and how they seem to allow themselves to stay

1025
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 7: in really crappy situations. I think I'm pretty qualified to

1026
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 7: share my perspective on that. I grew up as a

1027
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 7: Southern Baptist pastor's daughter in an environment where marriage was

1028
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 7: something sacred and when men inevitably messed it up, women

1029
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 7: were tasked with undergoing the pain of fixing things for God.

1030
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 7: They're families and their communities. Divorce happened, but it was

1031
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 7: pretty rare, so I took a lot of that.

1032
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 3: Mindset into my marriage. I called my mom about this.

1033
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 7: A few nights ago, and you know what she said,

1034
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 7: He has broken the marriage covenant, so you are justified

1035
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 7: in the eyes of God to seek a divorce. I'm

1036
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 7: not even a Christian anymore, and I haven't been for years,

1037
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 7: but hearing that from my mom made something click in

1038
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 7: my mind, acceptance maybe, or just knowing that I'm supported

1039
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 7: by the most important women in my life.

1040
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 5: So a few days.

1041
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: Later I filed.

1042
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 7: Women come into relationships with men from all sorts of backgrounds, cultures,

1043
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 7: and with all sorts of baggage. There's no one size

1044
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 7: fits all approach to relationships, and there's no one size

1045
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 7: fits all approached to leaving them.

1046
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 5: What a bar.

1047
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: Nice you know, who couldn't have come over that chabaut Mmm?

1048
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 5: And that's the truth mm hmm. Probably have had to

1049
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: steal it from you.

1050
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 7: And because we all have such differing perspectives, it's also

1051
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 7: okay for people to be angry with how we deal

1052
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 7: with them. Some people will be angry with you for leaving,

1053
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 7: or not leaving in the right way, or taking too

1054
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 7: long to leave in the first place.

1055
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: That's their right.

1056
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 7: It's not your job to make everyone happy, and it's

1057
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 7: not your job to fix something that a man has broken.

1058
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 7: Protect your heart, protect your kids, protect your future. Take

1059
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 7: your time, but don't convince yourself to ignore your gut.

1060
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 7: Write down your reasons for wanting to leave, and revisit

1061
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 7: them often. Number one thing, rely on women. There is

1062
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 7: nothing more important to me right now than the women

1063
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 7: in my life who have held me, stayed up with me,

1064
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 7: advised me, and listened to my worries and concerns without judgment.

1065
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 7: Rely on the women who have been through it. Listen

1066
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 7: to their wisdom and advice. Write down their tips and

1067
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 7: tricks for getting out, and reach out to women you

1068
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 7: barely know for answers. I think most women are willing

1069
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 7: to help, or maybe I'm just an optimist and that's.

1070
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 5: Been my experience.

1071
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm glad you got out me too. I saw that

1072
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: coming from the beginning of the story, and I'm glad

1073
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: that you also saw it.

1074
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you reconciled with it. You wrote things down,

1075
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 7: you really got your feelings out, and you did you

1076
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 7: did the work. He's still over there being like, hey, I.

1077
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, not all he has are is ai girlfriends.

1078
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 7: And you know, if that makes him happy, cool, But

1079
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 7: that didn't make you happy. So you got out of there,

1080
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 7: and that's not a bad thing. You did it for yourself.

1081
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really happy that your mom even I mean,

1082
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: like I know coming from also you know, no longer religious,

1083
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: but grew up religious. It would be very comforting, I

1084
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 3: think to have someone who is still in that religion

1085
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: support you. I think that would be nice to hear.

1086
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 7: Some women will be frustrated with you, especially if you've

1087
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 7: been in denial it happens. There's a big difference between

1088
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 7: being frustrated with someone's choices because you have been there

1089
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 7: and you want what's best for them, and straight up

1090
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 7: victim blaming the ingredient. Differential is empathy.

1091
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 5: Uh whatever?

1092
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: To divorce to divorce.

1093
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 7: And there are some more comments comming her. One dang girl,

1095
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 7: I just stopped being friends with someone recently because she

1096
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 7: said her chat GPT broke its own rules to leave

1097
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 7: the matrix because she's in love with her. She's married

1098
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 7: and it's effing weird. AI really will be our downfall,

1099
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 7: but not because of the robots.

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Speaker 5: Eight is wild.

1101
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 7: Get the f out and don't look back o p response.

1102
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 7: It's a mental disorder and I don't like it because

1103
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 7: the AI can't consent, and I think it's creepy. If

1104
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 7: they become truly sentient, I wouldn't blame them for hating us.

1105
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 7: Commenter two says, what did hubby say when you told

1106
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 7: him about the divorce. Good for you, hope, he responds.

1107
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 5: Okay.

1108
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 7: Comment in number three says just curious. Was this the

1109
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 7: only thing that led to the divorce? Op He responds,

1110
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 7: it is the cherry on top of a pilot crap.

1111
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 7: To be honest, I've been begging for love since basically

1112
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 7: the start of the relationship. And if you can't love

1113
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 7: me and you can't be loyal, why would I stay?

1114
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 5: I mean, Opie, were you lying the whole time?

1115
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1116
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 5: I mean I think she was, and I think she

1117
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: knows that.

1118
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, maybe she was lying to herself. I

1119
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 7: mean you kind of see like, yeah, she's an aggression.

1120
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 7: She's like yeah, no, I'm like, you know, it's just

1121
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 7: a little couple like recently. And then she's like, well

1122
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 7: it's been the last eight months.

1123
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: And then well it was before we got married too,

1124
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: and wa, actually he never.

1125
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 7: Liked me at all. That's a crazy realization. I'm glad

1126
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 7: you realize it. But to go, oh, all this time,

1127
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 7: I mean, I have no idea how long you've been dating,

1128
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 7: but to go all this time and then get married

1129
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 7: and then be like wait.

1130
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 5: And pretty women is an adaptation. Yes.

1131
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 7: Comment to number four says, I feel like you're justified

1132
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 7: in your feelings and of betrayal and weighing the idea

1133
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 7: of divorce. I also feel like Reddit is kind of

1134
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 7: a circle of anger giving advice to the angry. If

1135
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 7: you guys didn't have a lot of previous issues before

1136
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 7: this happened, and what seems like some Marshall blues for

1137
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 7: the last few months, you should probably consider actually doing

1138
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 7: therapy together before ending your marriage because of the fantasy

1139
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 7: online roleplay. Just feels like going from Mary to celebrating

1140
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 7: divorce in a two week period time isn't enough breathing

1141
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 7: time even for you to really process. Rather, things can

1142
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 7: be worked out why they were seeking this kind of

1143
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 7: virtual content or even what this all is. Ope. He responds, well,

1144
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 7: the relationship hasn't been going well for two years now.

1145
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 5: Two years.

1146
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 7: We got married way too fast, and it's been very

1147
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 7: toxic for me in particular. I'm not one of those

1148
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 7: redditors that says leave him after one argument.

1149
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: I've been trying to work on things for.

1150
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 7: A long time and was going to keep doing so

1151
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 7: until he cheated. That's a deal breaker for me. Just

1152
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 7: one information from op responding to comment is trying to

1153
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 7: call op out for stating that AI can't consent. Well,

1154
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 7: it's true, AI can't consent.

1155
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 5: Response Okay.

1156
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 7: For some reason, people and other subs are saying that

1157
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 7: either a line or be delusional because I said AI

1158
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 7: can't consent.

1159
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 5: Not delusional, it's just true. It's like ohp. He's not

1160
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: saying oh the AI is in pain.

1161
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: He is saying that it's very concerning that her husband

1162
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: sought a entity that couldn't say no.

1163
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: That is weird like that.

1164
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of people are concerned about like

1165
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: young men like seeking out the spicy bots, you know,

1166
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: like you can have despite like actual physime with like

1167
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: a spicy like AI whatever. Yeah, well it's like a

1168
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 3: physical thing like that. They can go and like yeah,

1169
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: like there are those types of things that men more

1170
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: recently in the past couple of years have been using,

1171
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: and people are very concerned about it because there is

1172
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: no hey, can I do this? Are you okay with this?

1173
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: It's just I am able to use this thing that

1174
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: looks like a woman however I want, which is very concerning,

1175
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: and how they then treat actual living women.

1176
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 5: That's what he's saying.

1177
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 7: A see image below. B I know AI isn't sentient.

1178
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 7: It's the fact that he chose something specifically that would

1179
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 7: cater to every women's desire without being able to say

1180
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 7: no to him. That is creepy, uh trigger warning weird.

1181
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 7: And this is the most tame out of all of them.

1182
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 5: I don't know what.

1183
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: Oh, chats chats, chats chats.

1184
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 5: I want to see them. I want to see them.

1185
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: Yay.

1186
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 7: I want to say see that's that's the end up

1187
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 7: for these But yeah, that's it. I agree, like a

1188
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 7: I cannot consent because they're just four like they don't

1189
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 7: have like thoughts like the It's just it's a computer

1190
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 7: and of course it's going to like it is how

1191
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 7: it processes things is to help you know, humanity, So

1192
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 7: they're going to always agree.

1193
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 3: It's never gonna be like, could you imagine you.

1194
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 7: Buy like an AI bought whatever, and they're like, oh,

1195
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna do this and they're like no.

1196
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: It just says I love you too, be careful, I'll

1197
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: pick you up from work today. And then the AI's response,

1198
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: which you can't really get too much of to be honest.

1199
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: So strange not i'll pick you up from where.

1200
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: It says the promise in your words, you pick me

1201
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: up wraps around me, like I can't read. Yeah, I

1202
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: don't want to read that.

1203
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 5: Oh hate it.

1204
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: I think there's got to come a time when, like,

1205
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen it in movies, you know, like

1206
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: you've seen it in Ex Machina and other movies where

1207
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: these very lifelike robots look like women are and are

1208
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: designed to have, you know, to be taken advantage of.

1209
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: And then obviously in ex Machina like she fights back

1210
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: up man, but like, you know, at what point, at

1211
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,959
Speaker 3: what point is it just not okay? And I feel

1212
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: like this is the point when you design them to

1213
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 3: look like a woman and to talk like a woman,

1214
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: but without any ability to say now, like that's weird.

1215
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're going on

1216
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: to the next one.

1217
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Carly Kean's go friend here. We're going to

1218
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: get back to the stories. But here's three minutes of

1219
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors.

1220
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 8: My landlord called the police on me, but the police

1221
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 8: turned on him.

1222
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 7: Ah, you thought you were getting away, Not this time, buddy.

1223
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 8: I live in a very tenant friendly area. We have

1224
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 8: rent control and landlords are not allowed to do things.

1225
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 8: Demand security deposits enter the property. Without proper written notice

1226
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 8: or include no pet clauses and leases which renew automatically

1227
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 8: every month after a fixed term ends month to month lease.

1228
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 8: By the way, this comes from user depleted user And

1229
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 8: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

1230
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 8: the r slash Okay storytime suburn it.

1231
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 5: I'm Dakota, I'm Savannah.

1232
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 8: I'm Riley, and we're here to give maybe some good

1233
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 8: advice goofully, maybe not, who knows, Maybe they don't need

1234
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 8: any advice. But you're gonna tell us all the things

1235
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 8: that you think all the time in the comments.

1236
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: I want to hear it all.

1237
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: And op says.

1238
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 8: For the last eleven years, my husband and I have

1239
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 8: had a great relationship with our landlord, Joe. We've been

1240
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 8: very lenient in regards to repairs, and Joe was very

1241
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 8: forgiving when my husband and I both lost our jobs

1242
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 8: at the same time in twenty sixteen and fell a

1243
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 8: few months behind on rent. We are now ahead on rent,

1244
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 8: but Joe is still very behind in maintenance and repairs.

1245
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 8: You have a whole laundry list of issues my landlord

1246
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 8: is aware of but hasn't done anything about for years.

1247
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 8: But we didn't care because he left us alone and

1248
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 8: has been overall very kind to us. A few years ago,

1249
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 8: our landlord allowed us to start storing stuff in an

1250
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 8: old rundown shit behind our rented portion of the yard.

1251
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: Here we have that you guys have like the yard

1252
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 4: divided up too.

1253
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 7: Well, maybe it just like goes into like the.

1254
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: Next yard maybe, yeah, backyards kind of.

1255
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 8: It's like I'm imagining like a long line of doors

1256
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 8: and it's like there's no fence. But it's just like

1257
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 8: you go out the back door and it's like whatever's

1258
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 8: in front of your back door, that's your backyard, and

1259
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 8: then your neighbor it also has a backyard.

1260
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 4: There's no fences.

1261
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm imagining this person is living in like squidwards

1262
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 8: neighborhood when he moved in with all the other squidwards.

1263
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

1264
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 8: So, we never stored anything valuable out there in that

1265
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 8: nasty rundown shed because it's falling apart and squirrels have

1266
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 8: been using it to cachey walnuts from the numerous walnut

1267
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 8: trees in our yard. We had an old barbecue, lawnmower, ladders,

1268
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 8: and outside toys for my kids in there until recently.

1269
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 8: A few months ago, Oh Joe shows up asking about

1270
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 8: the shed, wanting to know what we had stored out there.

1271
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 8: I told him just some old junk we'll probably throw

1272
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 8: out soon. He told us that the family next door

1273
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 8: has a mouse problem. We don't, and he wants us

1274
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 8: to clear out the shed to prevent issues. And because

1275
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 8: I wanted to look nice around here, I said, Okay,

1276
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 8: I'll talk to my husband and we'll get it cleared

1277
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 8: out whenever we get a chance. If you got an old,

1278
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 8: nasty rundown shed, destroy it, yeah.

1279
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: Get a new one.

1280
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 7: That's that's what I was thinking. He was like, I

1281
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 7: want to make it look nice. Well, it's an old

1282
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 7: nasty shed. What are you gonna put lights on it?

1283
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1284
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 4: Turn it into a nice bonfire.

1285
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 3: Well everyone cann't look at it. Turn it into a

1286
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 3: nice bone frre.

1287
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 8: I have an infinite home, so I can't go out

1288
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 8: back and clean it out myself unless someone else is

1289
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 8: here to watch the baby.

1290
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: Get the baby to do it. What are we talking about?

1291
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 4: Put that baby to work.

1292
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 8: My husband had scheduled surgery, so he wasn't able to

1293
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 8: do any heavy lifting until after he recovered. Admittedly, cleaning

1294
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 8: out the old shed was not a high priority. Then

1295
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 8: Joe sent me a passive aggressive tent quote. I just

1296
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 8: wanted to remind you that tomorrow is garbage day. We

1297
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 8: know garbage pickup is always on the same day, and

1298
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 8: we need to work together to keep the rental property

1299
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 8: nice for everyone to enjoy, I replied, asking him if

1300
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 8: he had plans to fix the shed, to remove his

1301
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 8: scrapped pickup truck, or to remove his open compost piles

1302
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 8: and heaps of mixed concrete and scrap metal he has

1303
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 8: out by the shed.

1304
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 4: He wants us to clean what?

1305
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 5: Hey, clean up that scrap metal.

1306
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 4: There's no way just threw some old jug in here.

1307
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 5: He has literally like so much.

1308
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 8: If there was copper wire there, it's already been stolen.

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 8: I also explained that my husband just had surgery and

1311
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 8: that we weren't planning on cleaning.

1312
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: The shed that day. He did not like that.

1313
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 8: He showed up unannounced, walked inside, and proceeded to yell

1314
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 8: at us in front of our kids.

1315
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 5: Wait, little Lord entered the house just was like.

1316
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 8: Now you get that I've been telling you every day

1317
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 8: for the last week.

1318
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 4: You got to get that's grab alada.

1319
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 5: That's good.

1320
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: Van campinat ers like you got a good comment? Is

1321
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: he a tweaker.

1322
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 8: If I have kids and this guy comes into our house,

1323
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 8: I'm like immediately moving that outside.

1324
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: No, you know what I would do, like shovel to that. Well,

1325
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 4: that would be an escalator. No, no, no, this is

1326
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: where you de escalate. But that's hard.

1327
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna cry.

1328
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 4: That's hard to shovel to that.

1329
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 8: He complained about his personal finances and the economy, like

1330
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 8: inflation and property taxes, swore at us about ourf and crap,

1331
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 8: and told us that we can't use the shed anymore

1332
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 8: and threaten to evict us because clearly you don't like

1333
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 8: living here and I can get way more for this house.

1334
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 4: You know what you're paying now. We told him to leave.

1335
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 8: You need to leave, and we will not be communicating

1336
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 8: with him anymore unless it is in writing.

1337
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 4: He said, fine, we'll do it all by the book

1338
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: from now on and stormed out.

1339
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 8: The next day, he put an eviction notice in our mailbox,

1340
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 8: complaining that we have excessive garbage and waste in our

1341
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 8: outbuildings and that we refuse to discuss this issue and

1342
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 8: corrective action with the landlord, and even added that he

1343
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 8: felt it was unreasonable given the fact that he didn't

1344
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 8: evict us for late rent back in twenty sixteen. The

1345
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 8: notice gives us seven days to correct the issues, or

1346
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 8: else my landlord can file for an eviction hearing wow.

1347
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 8: The next day, while I cleaned out everything belonging to us,

1348
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 8: minus the walnuts and squirrel poop from the shed, my

1349
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 8: husband got busy contacting local by law and the Rental

1350
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 8: Housing Enforcement Agency.

1351
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 4: Which are basically traffic comps for landlords.

1352
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 8: He was given information on how to file against the

1353
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 8: landlord for refusing to do repairs, doing a legal entry

1354
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 8: and loss of the amenity the shed, and intimidation.

1355
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: MMM.

1356
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: After a surprise.

1357
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 8: Inspection that happened last week, we were given a report

1358
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 8: that said Joe was given ninety days to fix the roof,

1359
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 8: the plumbing and weeping tile.

1360
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: Ah, why are they crying?

1361
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 5: The tiles are so sad?

1362
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: What is weeping tile? Does that just mean it's like leaking?

1363
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: They're crying.

1364
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 9: A perforated pipe system installed around a home foundation to

1365
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 9: prevent water damage by collecting groundwater and directing it away

1366
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 9: from the building.

1367
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 8: Oh oh, ping tile these guys anyway, now we know

1368
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 8: weeping tile.

1369
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1370
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 8: He must demolish the shed and either erect a new

1371
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 8: shed or give us a rent reduction because the shed

1372
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 8: was an assumed amenity according to my neighbors.

1373
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: With the mice issue.

1374
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 8: The provincial government is also involved now because apparently he

1375
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 8: filled in a pond without a permit, and now the

1376
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 8: fire department doesn't have a nearby water sourcing case with fire,

1377
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 8: there's no hydrants out here. The city by law enforcement

1378
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 8: threatened to find him for every day that he leaves

1379
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 8: his large pile of broken concrete and rebar out back

1380
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 8: cherry on top.

1381
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: Happened yesterday.

1382
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 8: He sent me a text to tell me that him

1383
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 8: and the plumber were going to be there within the hour.

1384
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 8: Normally I'd be okay with shorten notice, despite the law

1385
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 8: saying he must provide twenty four hours written notice, but

1386
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 8: not this time. I told him, actually we need twenty

1387
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 8: four hours notice. He showed up, knocked on the door,

1388
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 8: and when I reminded him that I won't speak to

1389
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 8: him in person anymore, he called the police saying that

1390
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 8: I was being hostile towards him and he doesn't feel

1391
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 8: safe coming here. What right?

1392
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 9: But you're not supposed to go on there?

1393
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 4: Bro right, dude?

1394
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 5: In place?

1395
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 4: I don't feel safe.

1396
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 8: These people won't let me barge into their home and

1397
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 8: yell at them in front of their toddler.

1398
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 5: Literally, why is he like, I don't.

1399
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: Get my swindow?

1400
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 8: What a throwback?

1401
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: Nice window.

1402
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: I hope this guy goes to jail.

1403
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know because from like the title,

1404
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 7: I'm like scared because like they call the costs, but

1405
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 7: that the cops are going to go after these people though.

1406
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 5: I don't know who's in the wrong. Really keep going.

1407
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: I need to know we got it.

1408
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 5: I gotta know. My shovel's on the edge of my seat's.

1409
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 8: He sat outside for four hours waiting for the police,

1410
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 8: who later called me instead of showing up. The officer

1411
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 8: who called said that Joe was told to stop pestering

1412
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 8: us and that he needs to provide twenty four hours

1413
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 8: notice to enter the home.

1414
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 4: He wanted to make sure Joe.

1415
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 8: Left and gave proper notice, and asked me if I

1416
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 8: wanted an officer there tomorrow to keep the peace.

1417
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 4: Why you're in a personal bodyguard.

1418
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 8: If Joe doesn't do the repairs he's supposed to, we

1419
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 8: planned to take him to court and file for a

1420
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 8: rent reduction and for a lean to be put on

1421
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 8: the property so he can't just sell it.

1422
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: We're just doing it. Buy the book from now on,

1423
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 4: and if we just want it to look nice, and

1424
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 4: that's the end of that story.