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Speaker 2: your calls that we've recorded all week. And I have

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Speaker 2: decided that I am going to explore a second career,

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Speaker 2: maybe separate from this, or maybe it'll replace this. What

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Speaker 2: are you doing? I'm going to open up a hospice.

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Speaker 2: Oh and you could be my first patient. I'm not

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Speaker 2: ready for hospice quite yet. I guess that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I'll be your first patient. Well, you guys could both

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Speaker 2: make a lot of money. That's what I was.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't. You don't have to show up

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Speaker 2: and lay in a bed. Okay, all right, you just

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Speaker 2: I just need your name and your Social Security number

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Speaker 2: and I'll split the winnings with you. Okay, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: all right. This is something we've been covering now probably

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Speaker 2: since late January, when doctor Meme Oz, who runs the

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Speaker 2: Medicare and Medicaid system in the Trump administration, came to

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Speaker 2: LA released a video saying Van Nyes has dozens of

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Speaker 2: these hospice care companies but no actual hospices, no patients

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Speaker 2: in most cases, no offices, no employees, and there they

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Speaker 2: are getting millions of dollars in medical benefits. And he

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Speaker 2: put it out and he also said, notice the signage

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Speaker 2: on all these businesses, it's all Russian and Armenian lettering.

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Speaker 2: They're alphabets. So Gavin newsom right, he didn't pay attention

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Speaker 2: to the tens of millions of dollars being defrauded here.

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Speaker 2: He said, well, you made fun of the Armenians, and

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Speaker 2: he actually filed civil rights complain against doctor Oz, a

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Speaker 2: most asinine response. Imaginable. Well, now it is pylon time,

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Speaker 2: because just this week CBS News did a long network

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Speaker 2: investigation of exactly the same thing. You had fake hospices

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles by the hundreds and hundreds of millions

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Speaker 2: a Republican assembly woman, Alexandra Messdo. She was part of

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Speaker 2: an investigation along with an independent journalist and they found

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Speaker 2: a similar story. So it's doctor Oz, and it's CBS News,

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Speaker 2: and it's Alexandra Messido and the journalist. And now here's

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Speaker 2: You're in this one, you're really not gonna believe because

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Speaker 2: it focuses on one doctor, one doctor who's whose name

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Speaker 2: at least is connected to six hundred million dollars of

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Speaker 2: medicaid fraud. And this is William Lagenes from Fox News.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for doctor Faustina. This is his address of

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Speaker 3: record with the medical Board.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't work here. He doesn't work here. He is

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Speaker 1: your medical director. However, isn't that Fred, He's not Since.

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Speaker 4: When I got In December, New York Congresswoman Claudia Tenny

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Speaker 4: asked the Trump administration to investigate healthcare fraud in LA.

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Speaker 2: The money's being sucked out of the system by these fraudsters.

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Speaker 4: Specifically, she asks how a single physician living out of

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Speaker 4: state helped providers build taxpayers for six hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Somehow you are responsible for twenty nine thousand patients and

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Speaker 4: that and here's the billing information that physician eighty seven

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Speaker 4: year old Gilbert Faustina these home healthcare agencies, but they're

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Speaker 4: using your number. Them lives in Las Vegas, but we

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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing anybody now.

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Speaker 4: Last month I saw about ten or fifteen charts when

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Speaker 4: I would visit, but that's one day a week. Yet

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Speaker 4: records suggest he filed seventy six thousand claims.

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Speaker 1: I don't do the billing.

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Speaker 4: I've never built medicare for any of these patients.

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Speaker 3: How many charts and so forth can you go through

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Speaker 4: But these documents suggest that you're seeing thousands of all

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Speaker 4: the document is wrong. Federal documents show three hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty five providers build Medicare six hundred million over five

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Speaker 4: years using fusting his position number. Yet he claims only

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Speaker 4: to have contracted with three companies in this building.

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Speaker 3: At this address. I have millions of dollars of healthcare

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Speaker 2: Both highlight and ares and on call.

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Speaker 3: There's more than nine hundred patients and seventeen million dollars

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Speaker 1: It certainly sounds on seemly to me. Doctor Ira Biok

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Speaker 2: They're all only serving a few patients, which keeps them

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Speaker 1: This isn't a mistake, this is a strategy.

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Speaker 4: Records also link Faustina to eighteen hospice providers.

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Speaker 1: I am not associated with any hospice and three thousand claims.

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Speaker 2: I'm not associated with the claim at all.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen the claim. So what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hospital soon Suite two four.

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Speaker 4: We visited several hospices billing under Faustina's Medicare number. Many

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Speaker 3: My name's William Lachenez and I'm with Fox News.

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Speaker 4: We also spoke to one company that provides doctors and

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Speaker 2: He used to be employed with as one of our

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Speaker 4: Days after receiving the TENNY letter, Medicare ended Faustina's ability

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Speaker 2: We are not sure what happened this, Well, you're not

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Speaker 4: If there is fraud, Faustina says he not getting a cut.

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Speaker 4: So you think somebody's probably committing fraud on your back.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not on my behalf, on their behalf.

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Speaker 4: Neither doctor Fustina nor any of the providers associated with

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Speaker 4: illegal conduct. However, the US Attorney is investigating home health

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Speaker 1: In LA Is that is that amazing?

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Speaker 2: Now? If you saw the video of this guy and

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could do this sitting from home. We

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Speaker 2: thousands of forms. And in Gavin Newsom's administration, they just

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Speaker 2: pay out everything. Nobody checks. They're not interested. And Newsom

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Speaker 2: has been told repeatedly about the fraud. I mean, we've

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Speaker 2: this is like the unemployment fraud from a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: You know when Scott Peterson on death row was getting

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine how much money is being shoveled out

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Speaker 2: fraudulently for illegal aliens because illegal alien healthcare busted the budget.

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Speaker 2: and also most of them not even speaking English. I mean,

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Speaker 2: God knows what these claims are, but to say, eighty

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Speaker 2: seven years old, and how is it that Fox figured

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Speaker 2: this is astonishing. Six hundred million dollars connected to one

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Speaker 2: the in the story, it's they're just bail drop. There

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Speaker 2: the door, phone numbers jump to voicemail, names ripped off

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Speaker 2: the lobby marquee, but everybody was still billing Medicare. We'll

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's California.

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Speaker 2: the address for hundreds of fake hospices that are collecting

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Speaker 2: This is California's medical system. They were paid seventy six

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Speaker 2: Of them and seventy I so seventy six thousand hospits

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Speaker 1: We'd spent a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: On hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars of

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Speaker 2: Round and round, and Shannon Grove kept getting more and

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Speaker 1: It just seems it just seems.

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Speaker 2: Like almost everybody connected to governments and the nonprofit world,

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Speaker 2: But if you wonder why our budget tripled, our state

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Speaker 1: It is bad. It is very bad. Talk more coming up.

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show. You've got a number of candidates running

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Speaker 2: We briefly mentioned this story last week. There's a bishop

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Speaker 2: but you know that's a crime of the flesh. He

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Speaker 2: also stole at least two hundred and seventy thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: from the church. That's a lot of action at the brothel.

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Speaker 2: That is, he was one horn done. Those girls are exhausted.

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Speaker 2: They're rich, but boy, they tired of the bishop. It's

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Speaker 2: like not again, Come on you. He's been charged with

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Speaker 2: fifteen felony counts financial crimes stealing the money, eight counts

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Speaker 2: of embezzlement, eight counts of money laundering, one count of

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Speaker 2: aggravated white collar crime.

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Speaker 1: Why you know, he could be an off.

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Speaker 2: He's got so many crimes against him. They caught him

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Speaker 2: at the airport trying to flee to Germany. He's an

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Speaker 2: actual sitting bishop. He had nine thousand dollars in a

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Speaker 2: bag and u because they had a fight over whether

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Speaker 2: he should get bail or not, and Shalida's attorney said, well, no,

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Speaker 2: that flight to Germany, that was that was planned already.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't fleeing charges, but the judge didn't believe him.

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Speaker 2: There is four hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars unaccounted

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Speaker 2: for at the church. It could be as much as

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Speaker 2: a million dollars. The money has vanished, he claims. I've

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Speaker 2: never used any penny of church money. And now the

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Speaker 2: thing is I talked. I told you before that when

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Speaker 2: there's really wild, crazy news, people don't want to believe it,

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Speaker 2: and people the Chaldean eparchy, which I guess is the

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Speaker 2: what would you call it, it's the governing body over

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Speaker 2: the church, says after hearing all the critics and attacks

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Speaker 2: against the bishop, we asked the Lord to protect him

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Speaker 2: from all the negative attacks. That's very kind, and one

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Speaker 2: of the parishioners, Nidhal Shamun, says, I cried he doesn't

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Speaker 2: deserve to be there, meaning jail. It's like people didn't

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Speaker 2: want to believe all the Catholic priests who were who

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Speaker 2: were engaged in and all the child sex rapist stuff

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Speaker 2: years ago. In fact, that was the problem is for decades,

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Speaker 2: going back to when we were kids, if a kid

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Speaker 2: got diddled with, they'd go home and tell their parents,

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Speaker 2: and the parents should tell him to shut up.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Father Smith would never do that. Well he did. Don't

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Speaker 2: you dare say that you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, really it happened. And so people flat

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Speaker 2: out don't believe extreme stories. I guess it's part of

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Speaker 2: human nature makes their brain freeze up. Here's another parishioner

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Speaker 2: for Ruke Goarjez. This charge is not correct. It should

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Speaker 2: be removed from him. They should come and talk to me. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean he had nine thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: his bag that he was running off to Germany with.

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Speaker 2: And I think all the prostitutes in the brothel might

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Speaker 2: be able to do an id like there is nobody

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Speaker 2: you could tell me, like anybody in the world is

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Speaker 2: guilty of either financial crime sex crimes.

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Speaker 1: Up to me, I don't know what you're up to.

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Speaker 1: Nothing would surprise me.

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