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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with our radio. This is

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Speaker 1: a really like emotional day for the podcast. Uh. Not

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Speaker 1: without my co host Ashley have been. What are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do about? This is no longer Ashley I. We

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Speaker 1: know we have an aster, she's married. Honestly, it's another

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Speaker 1: human being. When you say Ashley Haven, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared extravaganza, the wedding of the Millennia. We

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Speaker 1: are here live talking about paradise because that's how much

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Speaker 1: we love the show. But I'm I'm poode. Are you

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Speaker 1: We have Toria, Danielle and Studio along with Easton. UM.

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Speaker 1: We like to call them the magic behind the scenes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: So let me start here. Though. UM, if if anybody

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Speaker 1: didn't know that listened to the podcast, actually got married yesterday.

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Speaker 1: She got married. Wonderful. Yeah. Um, she got married to

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Speaker 1: Jared Jared Hamn, who was a good friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of tweets this week from you all tagging Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. I tried to go through and like them

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Speaker 1: this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise. Perfect, Daniel, you

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Speaker 1: want to go first? Sure, Okay. I want to know

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Speaker 1: I have a question about those those dunkin donuts that

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Speaker 1: surprised by this. Tanya and Becca were incredible, absolutely incredible

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Speaker 1: Saaler and they're up there and Ashley's like getting fixed up,

429
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Speaker 1: and then you know, just continually hit me that this

430
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: was the moment she's been waiting for and she found.

431
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Speaker 1: This isn't just a ceremony to her, this is this

432
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: is a miracle coming true. She found a man that

433
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: loves her. And so I started crying. I started crying

434
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: pretty good. And Jess looked I could see like through

435
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: a corner, and she looked up at me, and I

436
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: was like, I don't mind a cry in front of her,

437
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I ever have. And she

438
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: just looked at me, and then she took her hand

439
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: and she grabbed my hand and she just squeezed it

440
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: and just sat and looked forward and just like like

441
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: was like just kind of patting my hand like oh

442
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: it's all good, Like this is good. And I was like,

443
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: this is this is a girl loves me Like this

444
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: girl loves me. She she she She's in it with me,

445
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: no matter thick and thin. So that was that was sweet.

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00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: Did you hear the music with you? No? I did

447
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: not hear the music, but I'm assuming it was really great. Hey,

448
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: can I tell you guys a story? We're ready? Of course.

449
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: I think I've I've touched on a few times um

450
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: during this podcast, but ever really interesting. So we all

451
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: know we love Ashley. Ashley. I could go on and

452
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: on and I will and I do. Uh. You know,

453
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: she feels she says things that are crazy and awkward

454
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: and weird, and then she feels strong and she feels

455
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: a lot of emotion and she cares and every single

456
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: one of her friends that it up on stage. Uh.

457
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: During the rehearsal said I've never met a friend, UM

458
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: that literally would be lay beside me as I'm in

459
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: the hospital she's done it, or she lays beside me

460
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: during every breakup, or she'll sit beside me between Like

461
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Ashley just loves hard and she wants people to be

462
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: the fullest version of themselves. I can go on Ashley,

463
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about Jared. Jared because actually

464
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: is such a a big figure, a prominent figure. Jared

465
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: doesn't get talked about a lot, but I want everybody

466
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: to know how incredible of a man Jared Haben is.

467
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: And he he is the Yang to Ashley Yang completely.

468
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he is the opposite of Ashley and that's

469
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: what makes them so great. But Jared has been consistent

470
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: to me ever since the time I was on the show,

471
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: and on the very first night of the bachelrette this

472
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: is a moment that really means a lot to me personally.

473
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: I get out of the limo feeling completely out of place,

474
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Speaker 1: not knowing what I'm doing. I go inside of the

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Speaker 1: house and I sit down on the out and I'm

476
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: sitting there and all of a sudden, I hear this

477
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: laughter coming from one of the windows of the house,

478
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: and so I get up and I look out it

479
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: and it's Jared taking off his shirt and during Bachelorette,

480
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: and his shirt says love man on it, and I

481
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: was like, that guy is a nerd, a complete nerd,

482
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: and I like it, and I need to talk to

483
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: him because he's gonna make me feel more normal here.

484
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: So he comes to the house and it just happens

485
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: that he sits right next to me and we get

486
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit, and then I just I

487
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: couldn't help it. I just looked at him and said, dude, man,

488
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: like I don't belong here. Like I don't. There was

489
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: professional athletes and there was a great looking dudes coming

490
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: in and they're all had swagger and nice suits and

491
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: all those things. I said, Jared, I don't belong here,

492
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: and he, without hesitation, with however knowing me, Jared looked

493
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: at me and he goes, don't be crazy, man, you

494
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: belong anywhere, You belong anywhere. And that really was like

495
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: this moment of accountability from somebody that didn't know me,

496
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: somebody that had never met me. That kept me saying, okay, Ben,

497
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 1: stop being the victim here. Stop getting down on yourself here.

498
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: That's doing you no good. Um. And it's been a

499
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: consistent message in my mind ever since then. And I

500
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: don't even know if Jared knows it, but when I

501
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: do feel that way, his little love man voice is listening,

502
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: is whispering and mirror saying, don't be crazy, man. You

503
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: belong anywhere, You belong everywhere you're at. And and then

504
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, Jared and I, uh

505
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of time to talk privately. Combers

506
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: are around very often, and we're down to the final four,

507
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: and that down to the final five and three of

508
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 1: the guys on a date and Jared I are not,

509
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: and we just get the opportunity to go into a

510
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: steam room during the show, and we locked ourselves in

511
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: the steam room for forty five minutes when it was

512
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: at full capacity, just so we could talk with cameras.

513
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: And at that moment, I realized that this dude cared

514
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: so deeply for the people around him. He asked me

515
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: questions about my life, which I don't feel like it's

516
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: to happen very often. He asked me questions about my family,

517
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: about what I want and a partner if maybe at

518
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: the time Caitlin was it or not. He asked me

519
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: about my insecure like this dude cares and so on

520
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: their wedding day, I know this is Ashley's moment, this

521
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: is should be Ashley's moment, and he wants it to

522
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: be Ashley's moment, But I also want Jared to feel

523
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: how much he has loved as well. And I am

524
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: so so pumped um for them to start their lives together,

525
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: and it closes all up. Ashley just had to put

526
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: a little icing on the cake this morning because I

527
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: went over to say goodbye to her before they left,

528
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: and guess what shirt she was wearing? That Are you kidding?

529
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: A generous coffee shirt. Um. So yeah, great wedding. I'm

530
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: sure when Ashley gets back, we'll break it all down again.

531
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: But what an incredible experience. Hey, uh, how about this.

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Speaker 1: there listening, if you hear my voice right now, I'm

574
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Speaker 1: tired and I'm I'm exhausted. Here's a cool part about

575
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Speaker 1: Ashton Jerry's wedding. I'm not tired from drinking. I'm tired

576
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: from like dancing. My body hurts. Um But we're gonna

577
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: get through this. Because Bachelor in Paradise so far has

578
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: been incredible. I will say this. I will say this,

579
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: It's fallen a little bit short when it comes to

580
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: kind of investing into the storylines that I really want

581
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: to hear about. I think, and I want to know

582
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: if you at home feel the same way. I think

583
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: we've focused a lot on Blake and the things that

584
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: he's done outside the show, and I do think, for

585
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that's important for us to know. It's good

586
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: information because it is making up a lot of the storylines,

587
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: and the impact on the has a huge impact on

588
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: the show. But personally, I just I don't want to

589
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: hear about it every five minutes, Like I want to

590
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: hear about the Clay and the coals, and I want

591
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: to hear about what's happening even between the j pj's

592
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: and Yakas and and how Cam is processing Kalin actually

593
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: not being that into him. I don't love I just

594
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: don't love the focus on Blake right now, and that's

595
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: my take going into it. But I still think this

596
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: season is going to end and be really good. Uh.

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00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: We start out this episode with the Rose ceremony. Derek

598
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: picks Dimmy Clay picks Nicole, Will's picks Katie, Kevin picks Sydney,

599
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: J p J picks and yak Camp picks Kalin. Dylan

600
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: picks Hannah Gee, Blake picks Tasia that seems like a

601
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem brewing, and Chris picks Christina. In

602
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: a surprise to send Anneale, who was blindsided by Chris

603
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: home hot sauce, Jane who literally had a thing of

604
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: hot sauce six inches down her throat. It cannot be healthy.

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00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: And Bibiana, who once again has to go home on

606
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: this franchise. We don't like that about Bibiana. Bibiana is

607
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: one of our favorite She's spicy, she's great, she's beautiful.

608
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: At some point, Vibiana is gonna find a guy that

609
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: swoops her off her feet and we're all going to

610
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: be celebrating it. So then, yes, quick question for you.

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: Do you think if the rose was first offered to

612
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: Blake and was given to Hannah Ge, would she have

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00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: accepted it before Dylan was given the rose first? Based

614
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: on what we saw this episode, it seems like if

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00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: you would have asked me that Senara right after the

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: ROAs somebody I said, I would have probably said no

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: because I thought her and Dylan had something like really

618
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: good going and I think she I thought she realized it.

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Speaker 1: But after watching this episode, I don't think I think

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00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: she would have. I think she would have left and said, Okay, Blake,

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00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: let's give this thing a shot. I actually think that's

622
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: kind of what she's saying right now on this episode. Well,

623
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: and follow up do you if I don't know if

624
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: you know this or not, because I don't know you've

625
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: never done Bachelor in Paradise. But if let's say Blake

626
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: went first and offered his rose to Hannah Gye and

627
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: she said no because she wanted it to be given

628
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: to Dylan, does he get like a second go around

629
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: being like okay, then I pick you? Or would he

630
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: would he have gone home immediately? Oh? I don't know

631
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: if I know the answer to that. That's a great question. Yeah,

632
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: so what happinking about that? Because I was like, oh

633
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: my gosh, we need to know who's going first, because

634
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: if Blake does it, that could have been a game

635
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: changer to the whole scenario. If she would have been

636
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: like no, sorry, because she it seems like after this

637
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: episode she really has only communicated with Dylan that she's

638
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: interested for Dylan, So would have really confused. Yeah, So

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00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what he had been sent home or

640
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: could he be like okay, sorry about that, Dantasia. So

641
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: here's a scenario. A guy offers a girl or a

642
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: girl offers a guy when they have the power a

643
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: rose that roses then turned down. Does the girl or

644
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: guy get another chance to find somebody else to mabe

645
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: except the Rose or do they both or then do

646
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: they go home? Or there's a guy go home or

647
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the people in power go home. I don't know the

648
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: answer that, but I bet our listeners do, so please

649
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: tweet us and hashtag almost same his podcast with your

650
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: answer to this scenario. I'm sure it's happened before, I

651
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: just don't know it, or email us at been and

652
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Ashley at I heart media dot com. Okay, moving on

653
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: here the Blake in Hannah Gee situation. The episode after

654
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony kicks off with Blake claiming that he's

655
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: going to go hard after Hannah g He is pursuing

656
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: Hannah Gee. Now this has red flags written all over it.

657
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you and anybody else

658
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: here in studio, but when I saw this, it just

659
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: seems like another scenario that is going to go epically

660
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: wrong for Blake. I also was not expecting Hannah Gee

661
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: to reciprocate feelings based on how things have gone so far,

662
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: and not even because of the decisions that Blake made

663
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: before the show, mostly because I thought her feelings with

664
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Dylan were so serious. We're just talking about last week.

665
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: We thought this was a new Joe Joe and Kendall

666
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: of of the franchise. But again, I guess Kendall kind of,

667
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't that into Joe for a while either.

668
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: What do you all think here in studio? Is this

669
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: something that we should be worried about? Doesn't make sense.

670
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: We're we're expecting this. I feel like everybody was expecting

671
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: it to happen with something. Hannah's beautiful, so she was

672
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a hot commodity. Blake is kind of treating

673
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: us like he's he's running Island, so he's already been

674
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: kind of dating a bunch of girls. Thankes suspected it,

675
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: but I don't like it at all. I doubt many

676
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: people do. And that's what that's the things that kind

677
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: of like is a little bit concerning here is I

678
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: bet it's just confusing for me to think of how

679
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: good of a relationship she has currently with Dylan mhm,

680
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: and yet she's okay moving on from Dylan to Blake.

681
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: And and let's take what Blake has done in the

682
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: past out of the equation here. That's not what what we're

683
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: talking about. It's just the Dylan Hannah relationships seemed so good,

684
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: and it seemed like they kept having these conversations that

685
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: got them to this point where I bet Dylan was thinking, oh,

686
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: we're in a committed relationship, like this is this is

687
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: something we're moving on for. And then all of a

688
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: sudden he looks up again and his he's getting you know,

689
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: his his his heart's a little broken. I think that, Um,

690
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: we haven't really, I mean, we've seen this a lot before,

691
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: when people start off really early on, like we had

692
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Jade and Tanner. They started like Tanner was literally in

693
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: love with Jade the first time he saw her, and

694
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: that really scared her because she's like, so I'm just

695
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: supposed to give you my heart week one, count myself

696
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the game. That is a

697
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: little scary. Even when you go on a date with

698
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: somebody and they're like, hey, I want to keep pursuing

699
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: you. You You kind of like take a step back me

700
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: and like, WHOA do I want to all of a

701
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: suden just be exclusive with you, like after our first

702
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: date kind of a scenario, because that's essentially we did

703
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: think about these are happening in days, it's not weeks

704
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: have gone by. And then we had that with Kendall

705
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: and Joe Kendall really back pedaled and was like, this

706
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: is going too fast and it's making me panic. I

707
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: want to explore. And she went and dated a couple

708
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: other people and that killed honestly, probably the fans more

709
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: so than we were. Like, you know, so I don't

710
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: think that it's like a shocker, but I think that

711
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: it is hard now that we know so much of

712
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: behind the scenes prior to the show, that really affects

713
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: the taste in everyone's mouth as to why she's doing

714
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: that to Dylan. But it is also interesting that all

715
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: the girls are like, choose Dylan, Choose Dylan. Yeah, it

716
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: feels like doesn't have a lot of people on on

717
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Blake's team right now. Back to the paradise. Yeah, but

718
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: she's going to be the one to do it herself.

719
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: She's got to say, Okay, I'm over you, like you know,

720
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: She's going to be curious until she finally realizes he's

721
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: not who she wants. But she's got to make that decision.

722
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I want to know, though, to bring into another scenariot

723
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: this when it comes to hand of gee. So let's

724
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: do a little hand of ge talk right now. Um,

725
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't. From this episode, I'm not convinced she actually

726
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: likes Dylan that much, not just because of the Blake scenario,

727
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: but because she initially was open to going on a

728
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: date with Jordan Kimball. Now she did later on decline it,

729
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: but at first when he asked, she was said yes,

730
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: which points to me that in the back of her

731
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: head she was looking for something outside of Dylan. Yeah,

732
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I think she's just really, really nervous to

733
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: put all her eggs in one basket. I actually think

734
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: differently than you. I think she is a little bit

735
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: and I don't mean this in a negative way, but

736
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: like a people pleaser. So she doesn't know how to

737
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: present a no without making somebody, without the fear of

738
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: making somebody feel bad, even if it's hurting them more

739
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: by saying yes. So she's saying yes to Jordan's make

740
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: him feel good. I think she said it to be like, sure, yeah,

741
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you a shot, but I know that's not

742
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: I have Dylan, do you know what I mean. I

743
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: think it was kind of like she was going to

744
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: be in the power position to be like, it's okay

745
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: to go on this and just have fun. But then

746
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: she had to take a step back, waiting, being like, Okay, no,

747
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: actually I can't go just for fun because it's really good.

748
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: My situation is a little complicated. What do you think

749
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: it is? Why do you think Jordan Kimball has so

750
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: much confidence? I mean, he came into Paradise and the

751
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: wildest thing to me was that people were responding. Even

752
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: the women were like, that's Jordan Kimball. Jordan Kimball asked

753
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: me on a date to Paradise. Like Jordan Kimball, I

754
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: don't know, like was he I mean, I know he

755
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: had a big deal in Paradise last year, but like,

756
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: how does he have so much confidence? Where is all

757
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: this like admiration for Jordan Kimball coming from? Who gave

758
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: him the mayor the title mayor of Paradise. I think, like,

759
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't it's willed to me that he Yeah, yeah,

760
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: he gave himself that. If anything, Chris Bukowski is the

761
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: mayor of Paradise. He's been around, he has the longest

762
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: tenured spy. I feel like if you're the first person

763
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: to be married off b I P. Then you could

764
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: be like I'm the mayor because you're like, yeah, you

765
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: did it. You did it right, you got married. He did.

766
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: He did the dang thing. But yeah, I don't know

767
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: what makes him so special. If anything. He caused a

768
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: lot of drama last year with the the Chicken. The

769
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: Chicken is that his name? Chicken? Oh chicken? Yeah, David Rees,

770
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: he like really got into it with him. I just

771
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening there. It was it was like, Okay,

772
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Jordan shows the Paradise. My first reaction seeing him show

773
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: up was like, oh, this is this is gonna be entertaining.

774
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be funny, if it's

775
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: gonna be sad, if it's gonna be hard to watch

776
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's gonna be entertaining. It's you know, he

777
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have a alter. I also believe when I saw him,

778
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, he's definitely gonna shake up the

779
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: Blake drama. He's gonna say in a sense, he says

780
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: kind of like what Demmy does. He says whatever's on

781
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: his mind. He doesn't really care for if anybody's gonna

782
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: be upset with him for what he says. And and

783
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: that's a great quality to have, especially on Bachelor Paradise.

784
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: But I didn't expect him to shake up the love

785
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: scenarios very much like I didn't see that happening. And

786
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: then he gets there and even we've see Nicole saying

787
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: he chose me, like, and I know it's a good

788
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: feeling anytime anybody chooses you, I know that's a good feeling.

789
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: But it feels like Jordan's carried some weight in Paradise,

790
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, it was a little shocking. And I

791
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: want to know if you out there think it's a

792
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: little shocking, Well, were you expecting or did you assume

793
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: that Jordan Kimball would shake up the love scenarios a

794
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Paradise like he did yuh, you know, tweet us at

795
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: almost from his podcast, but of course he did. What

796
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: do you mean, like that's all he did last year?

797
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: But but but people responded this year with interest. Oh

798
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: I know why because he guy is heartbroken? No, I

799
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: know why? Well, yeah, I really once a redemption story.

800
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: But no, it's because everything he's saying is kind of

801
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: what you stand for. Like when Christina, who he pull

802
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: aside first, Chris no, Nicole who kind of started filling

803
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: him on the bleak drama, and he was like, what wait,

804
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: what And then he pulls aside Christina and then she

805
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: tells him about how Calin was in the story. Then,

806
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: so it's not only just Christina, it's actually Klin now.

807
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: And then he's hearing about Tasha, so he's like, what

808
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: the heck is this guy doing. He's doing fantasy sweets backwards.

809
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: He's basically one night in everybody like. It's everything that

810
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: girls like, thank you, thanks for speaking as a man

811
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: on behalf of that. You know, it's like it's going

812
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: to get the girls fired up to be like, heck, yes, yeah,

813
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. You're really not wrong. I think Jordan

814
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: came in a really good time. It's going to be

815
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: interesting to see how this plays out for him. I'm

816
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna be I'm gonna be shocked if Nicole um. I

817
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think Nicole and Clay stay together? No?

818
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: I thought you were a fan of them. No, Well,

819
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: I like them both. I think they're both very sweet people.

820
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know something about them. I just don't think

821
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: that they like mesh well together. Wait, who do you

822
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: think is reaching in that scenario? You know there's like

823
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: a reacher and a settler. Do you think there's a

824
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: reaching and there's a settler. I don't want to you

825
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: have to answer, Um, I think Nicole might be reaching

826
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: for Clay. Do you agree with Clay? Well, Clay has

827
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: this like big presence about him. He's a big dude,

828
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: And I think I actually think they stay together. My

829
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: my guess is that they stay together, that the two

830
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: of them really start to work us out. Nicole date

831
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: with Jordan's um all kind of helps her realize how

832
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: much she's into Clay, which is going to be exciting.

833
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: The one people we haven't quite figured out yet though,

834
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: is the deal and we have to talk about Blake.

835
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: Blake's a huge part of this show, a massive piece

836
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: of the show. He probably will be, I bet until

837
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: the very end. And it's it's been interesting to see

838
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: the dynamic kind of change within Paradise where it went

839
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: from people finding out about what Blake did to then

840
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: people really being upset about what Blake did. And actually

841
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: it feels like at this point we haven't seen a

842
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: lot of it, Like people aren't liking Blake as a person,

843
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: like he's actually maybe feeling like an outsider. The reason

844
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is because we see the scene that

845
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: did irritate me. Uh, not just not because I agree

846
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: with what Blake did at all, I don't, but because

847
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: we see the girls sitting around watching Blake kind of

848
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: catch up football and play on the sand, and they're

849
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: talking about him, and then he hits his toe and

850
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: rips his toe nail off and they laugh. It felt weird.

851
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: It felt like odd to me that people would laugh

852
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: at anybody's injuries, even if you dislike them. Is that

853
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: is that crazy of me? Am I missing something? No? No,

854
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: I think you're right on that. It's it feels like

855
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: that part maybe went a little too far, But it

856
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mean It's not like I'm like a massive deal.

857
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: But what it's pointing to is to me is that

858
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: the house is super upset with Blake, that they really

859
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: are dislike h and that when you see kind of

860
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: your worst enemy getting hurt, you do sometimes celebrate it,

861
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: even if it isn't the best thing to do. So

862
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: there there there is a heaviness to this. Um I

863
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: want to see Blake's redemption story with his friends in Paradise.

864
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to happen, but that

865
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: seemed to me really pointed to where he stands right now.

866
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: We also see a Cam and Kalen love story play out.

867
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: This was never anything. I don't know, This is never

868
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: anything Caitlin. I think saw that this was This was

869
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: an opportunity for her to be around another week. I

870
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: think Cam with somebody she's probably somewhat interested in, and

871
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe just even getting to know a little bit better.

872
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: And long story short, what ends up happening is that

873
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: once Kaitlin the dust settles and she's around another week

874
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: and she has the power. Then thenk goes Cam, you're

875
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: not my guy, and he came on really strong, like

876
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: his his game is not terrific. Okay, but is that

877
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: his fault? Like she's not telling him otherwise. He's literally

878
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: reading her poem and she's like that was sweet. You're

879
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: like that's so mean. You have the power with the rose.

880
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: You should be telling him, Hey, go explore other relationships. Yeah,

881
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: but she wants him to give her the rose. She's

882
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: in power now, she's in power. Like, I don't think

883
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: she knew how to end that conversation, Like I don't

884
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: think I get what you're saying, and like, you know, there,

885
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: she still may be interested enough to not want to

886
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: hurt his feelings completely. You don't think she's not interested

887
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: at all. She's not. And honestly, it hurts everyone's heart

888
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: no matter who it is. At the end of the day,

889
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: that's so hard to see where he is crying over her.

890
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's It's one of the hardest things to

891
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: watch though. And they put these scenes on where Cam's like,

892
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Cam is distraught now. It's like he almost

893
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: like he believed this was something that was gonna last

894
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: a lifetime and he believed this letter was a good idea.

895
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a good idea. I don't

896
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a good idea. I don't think

897
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Kalin and Cam ever even reconnect. And the rest of

898
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: the show um moving on. The next scene, Nicole and

899
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: Jordan are back together, are back from the date. Nicole

900
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: didn't end up missing Clay. This is something that's going

901
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: to happen. There's there's uh just it didn't have the

902
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: connection that her and Clay had. That's going to be

903
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: something to watch. And Big Mike, Big Mike Johnson, the

904
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: one and only comes in the Paradise and he's not

905
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: gonna wreck things, but he's gonna add to it. He

906
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: takes Kalin on a date and he is giddy. I mean,

907
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: this dude is giddy on this date. He says it

908
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: a multiple times. It almost feels like if this relationship

909
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: doesn't work out for him, that he's going to leave

910
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: Paradise brokenhearted. The question then, is is Kalin ready for

911
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: the attention now she's she's already accepted the attention from Cam.

912
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Is she going to accept the attention from Mike? And

913
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: if she does, will she stay with him? That's a

914
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: great question because he's pretty. He lays it out there

915
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: already on the first date. He's like, I already like

916
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: you and they kiss, you know what I mean? So

917
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: for her, she has to be full into yeah to

918
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: receive that. I'm worried that Mike's heart is going to

919
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: be broken. And I'm worried that Mike's heart is going

920
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: to be broken, and then it's gonna be really, really

921
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: healed once he's announced as the next Batchelor. Okay, so

922
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna I have two questions. So we've seen

923
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: it before where somebody can be on pair of dice

924
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: and be the next bachelor. That happened with Colton and Nick.

925
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: But does that hurt your chances at all, or does

926
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: that affect your edit you get when you're on the

927
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: show if they're like your chances on Paradise or on

928
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, sorry for Bachelor, Like, does that do you

929
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? Because then he has to have

930
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: the most perfectly written story, so we really shouldn't be

931
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: worried about Mike. Yeah, well, what you have. The story

932
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: you have to have is one of heartbreak. So you

933
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: have to see somebody coming in excited for love, their

934
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: hearts broken, and then they're set up to be the Bachelor.

935
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: And I think we've seen it work. I mean, if

936
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Nick and Colton are the two examples, it's worked because

937
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: people are invested in their stories. Um. And also we

938
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: see with Colton and when we forget when Colton left

939
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: his season of The Bachelor, he was disliked, like people

940
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: did not like him, and he goes on Paradise and

941
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: his story gets a little bit worse until it gets

942
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot better at the very end. Um, there's a

943
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: redemption there for him going into being the Bachelor, and

944
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: so people forget, they truly forget that during his time

945
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: on The Bachelrette he wasn't the most favorite character uh,

946
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: and then on Paradise he had a couple of weeks

947
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: of struggle in pain leading up to then him and

948
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: him being announced the Bachelor, which obviously worked out for him.

949
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: So I do think it's a way of the show

950
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: is leaning towards because we are so invested into their stories. Okay,

951
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: we got in this podcast with a few things quick

952
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: updates just to keep everybody up to date. Mike and

953
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Callon went on the date. Uh, Wills is pushing for Katie.

954
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: She I don't know what that was. It was like

955
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: the weirdest It was the kind of like Will said,

956
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense. One of the oddest scenes.

957
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was trying to break up

958
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: with him and just didn't know how, but it just

959
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: didn't work. They're not a thing, but Chris b and

960
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: Katie kind of are leading up to Hannah g and

961
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Blake and one of the most emotionally taxing scenes in

962
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Paradise this year so far, Dylan approaches Blake and Hannah

963
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: dancing on the beach. Now, I want to ask you

964
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: all East and you're including in this, is it a

965
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: was it a um A wise move for Dylan to

966
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: go up knowing that Hannah g is somebody he's interested in.

967
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Knowing Hannah G is somebody he's dated, uh, that he's

968
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: pursuing that. He has mentioned that he wants to be

969
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: exclusive with and I think he believes they are, so

970
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: he's acting like her boyfriend. It wasn't a wise move

971
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: for him to go up to her on the beach

972
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: while she's with Blake. Was that fair? Or should he

973
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: have kept his distance? You should just staying away? Yeah,

974
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: fight for your girl. You gotta fight for the girl.

975
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a good move? Like, I'm on

976
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: eastern side a little bit, Like I think I would

977
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: have sat back and been like, if she's not into me,

978
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: then you know what this this is gonna be. Like

979
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: I almost if I was Dylan, I could have seen

980
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: myself in that moment going out. I'm gonna go home

981
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: like this this girl that I obviously came here for

982
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: that I was excluding of two I was interested in.

983
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: She's not pursuing me like I'm pursuing her. It's time

984
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: for me to leave. This is embarrassing for me. But

985
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: you're saying, Daniel, that that you actually would like for

986
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: her for him to come up to you. On the

987
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: beach and say no, I like you, I'm not going

988
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: to let this go this easy. So here's the thing.

989
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: It depends on how much you're into that person. When

990
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: I see Dylan and Hannah's relationship, Dylan is like, this

991
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: is my wife, like he you can just see it.

992
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: He is so giddy about her. And they only have

993
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: a couple a couple of weeks. On this show, every

994
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: minute counts. So if she's like walking away with with Blake,

995
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna let it happen. I'm like, no, you fight

996
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: for your girl. That's who you want to be your wife.

997
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: It's so obvious, So steal her away and then if

998
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: she doesn't react to it, then then you take the hint.

999
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: It's definitely a move that Dylan thought about and is confident.

1000
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: I've never seen a man on this show be so

1001
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: confident in and kind of the uh that type of

1002
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: interaction you see it often and the show set up

1003
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: for it, But to have that type of resolve and

1004
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: saying I know this is my girl. I'm gonna walk

1005
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: across that beach. It's gonna be awkward, and I'm gonna

1006
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: confront this and say I need you to talk to me. Now,

1007
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: did Blake do anything wrong here? That's a that's a

1008
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: question that a lot of listeners have written into us

1009
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: over the next last night. Has Blake done anything wrong

1010
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: in this snare by saying, Dylan, you've been with her

1011
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: all day. I want to pursue her, give her my time,

1012
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: Hannah jesus standing there at this point, So we don't

1013
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: know how she feels. But is Blake doing anything? I mean,

1014
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to to hear from all of

1015
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: you after this podcast, But has Blake done anything in

1016
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: this moment that we are upset by? I don't think

1017
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: you can be upset at him, but I don't like it.

1018
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm very team Hannah and Dylan. The only hard part

1019
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: was the dancing because then Tatia is like, oh he

1020
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: did that to me? And Christina's like, oh, hey did

1021
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: that to me? Good point. Then Hannah jee was like

1022
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: falling victim to it. Yeah, the dancing move done a

1023
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: couple of times, so like that was his that was

1024
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: his seduction into Oh didn't Christina say oh he done me?

1025
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: So that we have a lot of people racking up

1026
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: the credibility that this move does work, and it did

1027
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: because then he spins her out and spins her in

1028
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: and then kisses her. I mean because without like if

1029
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: that move isn't done multiple times with multiple people, all

1030
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: of us are watching it going, oh, that's that's cool,

1031
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,959
Speaker 1: Like right, that's one of those moves we talked about,

1032
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: like how sweet was that moment? Right? But instead we're going,

1033
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: come on right, like that's that's nothing. This is just weird.

1034
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, just another day for Blake, just another

1035
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: day for this isn't going to end well for Blake,

1036
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think my prediction that I have

1037
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: zero idea, is that this is going to end, and

1038
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of believe this. This is

1039
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: gonna end really good for hannah Gy and Dylan, and

1040
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: Hannah g is going to come to her senses almost

1041
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: the Ashley I, Ken Eddie Jared Haven scenario, um, but

1042
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: really bad for Blake. Well. I do think that Dylan

1043
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: thought I think he was so confident when he approached

1044
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: the situation because I think he thought he was saving

1045
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: her in a way, because I think hannah Gy hasn't

1046
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: been communicating to Dylan that she's interested in Blake as well.

1047
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of it has been Oh,

1048
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm here to spend more time with Dylan. So Dylan's like, oh, well,

1049
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: she just feels like she has to kiss him, like

1050
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: she felt like she had to kiss Wills. So I'm

1051
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: gonna go save her from the situation when really she

1052
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: is interested in Blake, but she's not communicating that because

1053
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: I think she also doesn't want to come to terms

1054
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: with it with everybody saying, hey, I still have feelings

1055
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: for Blake even though it's been a rough, rough, a

1056
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: little ride for him. Yeah, So I think that's why

1057
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: he was so confident. There's a lot of open ended

1058
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: storylines right now in Paradise. We have one of the

1059
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: most sought after guests this season on any type of press,

1060
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,600
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Speaker 1: That's Kris Bukowski. Kris Bukowski has been on six seasons

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Speaker 1: Everybody wanted back to Nation's favorites. We know him the

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Speaker 1: best because we've seen him the most. Chris Bukowski is

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Speaker 1: on the line. Chris, thank you for coming to the

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Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. Of course, thanks for having me, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I want to dive in here because our listeners are

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Speaker 1: freaking out about you being on our show. Uh. They

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01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: have written in with a ridiculous amount of questions. You

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Speaker 1: are a man that we've seen often on the franchise,

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Speaker 1: but in a since that has drawn the intrigue to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure most of the questions in your life revolve

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Speaker 1: around getting asked how many times we've been on the Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: But I want to change that and say, why do

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Speaker 1: you continue to come on the show so many times?

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Speaker 1: You know a lot. It's it's funny because it's probably

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Speaker 1: a decade's worth of question, since I've been doing this

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Speaker 1: for almost the full decade. Um. You know, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: think since initially, you know, I started, I was young.

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Speaker 1: I just turned twenty five when I first did the Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: and it was such a great experience, um, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I was able to kind of open up emotionally and

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Speaker 1: it was just such an awesome feeling to experience, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, from there on, my experience is

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01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, kept going down with a

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Speaker 1: downward trajectory from there, and you know that's here taking

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Speaker 1: a break from it for a while. You know, I

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Speaker 1: always kind of held on hope to getting that feeling

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Speaker 1: that I that I felt I was on the Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: so I thought, you know, be a little bit older

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Speaker 1: and going through this so many times, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a good time for me to come back and

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Speaker 1: give another shot. It's one of the interesting things that

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Speaker 1: we found out that you're actually not the oldest person

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Speaker 1: in Paradise. I think because you've been on the show

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Speaker 1: we first did the Bachelorette together, we expect you to

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Speaker 1: be you know, you just felt like you've been around

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Speaker 1: a while. What you have if you're only thirty two,

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Speaker 1: thirty three, thirty two? Yeah, I mean there's people in

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Speaker 1: Paradise older than you, and so it makes sense that

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Speaker 1: you're there. But one of our listeners wrote in they asked, uh,

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Speaker 1: they said, Chris, if this doesn't work for you this time,

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Speaker 1: what happens next? What are you gonna do? Will you

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Speaker 1: go back Are you gonna go back and try to

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Speaker 1: find somebody outside of the show, or is this gonna

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Speaker 1: be the last hurrah for you? You know what, I

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Speaker 1: was so convinced that the last time I did this

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Speaker 1: was the last time. Uh well, I guess not the

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Speaker 1: most recent time, but the time prior to this. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I never say never. I mean it's um,

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Speaker 1: I would say, but this would this would this is

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Speaker 1: my last time you know doing this, But I never

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Speaker 1: rule it out completely. Uh. You know, it's a great experience. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's fun. Uh and uh you know

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Speaker 1: it's tough to say no to And uh, I would

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Speaker 1: say that most likely this this is my last time.

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because I think for the most part,

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Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm wrong, I haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to see some of the old Bachelor pads. You have

1224
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1225
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1226
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: makes friends in every season that you're on, but you

1227
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: quite honestly just fall a little short and it doesn't

1228
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Speaker 1: end up working out for you. And that's that's kind

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Speaker 1: of been your story. There hasn't been a moment that

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Speaker 1: I think fans have really started to dislike you or

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Speaker 1: to reject you, except maybe when you showed up on

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Speaker 1: Andy season and you waited outside the gate. I've always

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Speaker 1: been intrigued about that whole experiment. Why did you do it? Like?

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Speaker 1: What did you? Was it really you finding out when

1235
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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: try to date and Andy. I mean it's a little

1237
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Speaker 1: and I was intrigued by Andy, and I was also

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Speaker 1: you know, more intrigued of getting back into that whole

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Speaker 1: that whole scene. I was just kind of looking for

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Speaker 1: something that I guess really didn't exist and I and

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01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: honestly that was probably it was honestly a selfish thing

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Speaker 1: of taken away from that huge night for all those

1246
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Speaker 1: guys and for Andy of course. Um, so it was

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Speaker 1: it was. I was sad. That was probably the worst

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Speaker 1: moment of my of my bachelor uh my dactual life.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I mean it happened. I can't take

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Speaker 1: it back. And you know, here we are, Kay, you

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,560
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1259
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Speaker 1: is the worst thing you're known for this franchise and

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Speaker 1: you've been on it how many times? Is it? Six?

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Speaker 1: Seven times? Six? Yeah, then you're doing all right. You

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Speaker 1: there's been definitely a lot of ups and downs, I think,

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Speaker 1: So there's just so much that's involved with this, so,

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01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, emotionally draining, So it's uh, you know, every

1268
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: time I've done this, I wanted to do it for

1269
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: the right reason, to meet somebody and to see if

1270
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, there's someone I can have that happy ending with.

1271
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: So you know, regardless of how you do, you know,

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01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: how you did it with your current girlfriend. You know,

1273
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: it's just it doesn't matter as long as you're finding

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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: your person. However it happens. I think, I think if

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: it works out that way, then but ain't that I mean,

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. We'd like to play a little game, um,

1277
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: your highlights and low lights. It's like to do my

1278
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: personal life. It's always a good way to start dinner.

1279
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: It's what's your highlights in the day and low lights

1280
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: in the day. So, Chris, I want to ask you,

1281
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: what is your highlights? What's one highlight from the Bachelor

1282
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: franchise that you can think of being on the show

1283
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: and one low light kind of an experience, experience that

1284
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: you've had or a moment that you've had and not

1285
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: much of and less of a holistic idea. Yeah, I think, honestly,

1286
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: the highlight of my whole career, you know, doing this stuff.

1287
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: It was honestly on the Bachelorette when I had my

1288
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: first one on one day and it was with Luke Brian.

1289
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: He had a private concept for us from down Tom Charlotte, Um,

1290
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: and that was you know, when you go into something

1291
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: you have no expectations and you have Luke Bryan performing

1292
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: for you when you're dancing in front of all these

1293
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: people in downtown Charlotte. I mean it's you know, undescribable,

1294
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: and the emotions of the feeling that you have in

1295
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: that moment, I mean it's that was definitely the highlight

1296
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: um as of right now. I mean, you can't even

1297
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 1: make that stuff up. Uh. As far as my low,

1298
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: that would probably be a Bachelor in Paradise too. I

1299
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: showed up pretty late in the game. Everyone it was

1300
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: pretty much you know, matched up at the point when

1301
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: I showed up, and uh, I had a little bit

1302
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: too much drink and pretty much excused myself the same

1303
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: day that I got there. So I was literally there

1304
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours. Uh, you know, came and went,

1305
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: and that was probably, uh the low, the low of

1306
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: my Bachelor career. And so then this season so far

1307
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and even I mean, I think it

1308
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. It's not a spoiler for us. If you

1309
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: just kind of rank it and you're six times in

1310
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise, how does this season stand for me?

1311
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: This is this is the top. This is the best

1312
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,959
Speaker 1: experience I've had, I think, you know, taking a break

1313
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: from all of this and kind of establishing myself more

1314
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: as a person and coming back and really doing this

1315
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: threat way and you know, at the same time, like

1316
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, I am older, I'm not I have the

1317
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: experience and I've been I was able to give a

1318
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: lot of these guys to advice, you know, even some

1319
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: of the women too. U So for me, it was

1320
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: more about, you know, focusing on myself and seeing where

1321
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: I can help and seeing if there's that special person

1322
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 1: for me, and kind of staying out of the drama,

1323
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: which typically I'm used to being in the center of.

1324
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: So this time around, I was, you know, out of

1325
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: most of the drama and just kind of, uh, you know,

1326
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: went through the process and uh, you know, I'm really

1327
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: happy with you know that I came back and how

1328
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: everything went. That's exciting for us to hear. We're all

1329
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: pretty smiley over here. If this is the best experience

1330
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: you've had in six times on The Bachelor. We're looking

1331
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: forward to the rest of the season now because I

1332
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: want to take a second dig in to your personal

1333
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: life a little bit more. It's it's been talked about

1334
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: that you're in a serious relationship before um Bachelor Paradise,

1335
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: we almost got engaged. How did that affect kind of

1336
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: your mind going into you know, let me let me

1337
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: preface this by saying this year during the show, you know,

1338
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of past relationships and current relationships are a huge

1339
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: topic coming off the hand of b season too, then

1340
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: the Bachelor in Paradise season. How did that affect you

1341
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: coming into this show? I think it helped tremendously. You know,

1342
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: I dated someone for a little over two years. We

1343
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: lived together ut in l a. Um. You know, it

1344
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: was awesome, and you know, it just didn't work out.

1345
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I learned so much from

1346
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: that relationship, and you know, I was dating her literally

1347
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: right after, you know, pretty much after the last time

1348
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: I went on I was on Paradise to UM. So,

1349
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, having that relationship, it was you know, we're close.

1350
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we're definitely close, and it's just the Dotson

1351
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: completely align at the end there. But you just definitely

1352
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: matured me. And I saw a lot of pieces that

1353
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: I that I wanted a relationships. So, you know, coming

1354
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: back on you know, lots of Paradise definitely, you know,

1355
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: with that experience helped me so much. UM and uh,

1356
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm grateful for it, and uh yeah, we

1357
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 1: uh we all love a good comeback story. And it's interesting.

1358
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: I have been uh doing a little research before the

1359
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: podcast and we're on Twitter, and we found out that

1360
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: that Rob Mills and a couple of other executives kind

1361
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: of behind the scenes of the franchise have really been

1362
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: supporting your comeback and also claiming that you have a

1363
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: lot to do with the extremely high ratings right now

1364
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: from Bachelor in Paradise. How much of it is let

1365
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: me as this, do you feel like you've been all

1366
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: honesty gotten more popular as time has continued. You know,

1367
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: it's weird because at first of all, like those guys

1368
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: are great. Rob's also in my head obviously I've known him,

1369
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: you know for a decade now, and uh, you know,

1370
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: it's weird. I thought it would it would completely stay

1371
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: to lay after all these years, but it's still like

1372
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: I still you know, it's it's still the popularity is

1373
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: there that you know, there's still a little bit of attention.

1374
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: And but you know, what I was doing all this

1375
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: Instagram was barely a thing, Like it just started getting

1376
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: legs when you know, after my season the Bachelorette and

1377
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: so it was. It was a different era, and I

1378
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: feel like I don't I don't think i'm honestly, I

1379
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: don't think I'm responsible for any of the ratings currently,

1380
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: but I do think I do bring back a crowd,

1381
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: a different viewer potentially that is different than the modern

1382
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: day you know viewer. Um. So you know, I think

1383
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: it's a little different aspect of you know, I know

1384
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people treated me and sudden you mentioned

1385
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram saying you know they're watching. You know, it's

1386
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: good to see, you know, someone tolder from you know,

1387
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: older seasons, you know, back on here, so you know,

1388
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit it brings back a little bit

1389
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: of you know, the older generation of viewers that used

1390
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: to watch this, uh, you know, a little further back

1391
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: in the day. I really do think that you are

1392
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: a story that we enjoy having around. You're kind of

1393
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: that comfort Chris. When you come back on the show,

1394
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: we say, Okay, we're familiar with this and everything is

1395
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: definitely probably gonna be not all right, and we're good

1396
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 1: with that, and that's what we want at a Bachelor

1397
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: in Paradise, you know, Chris, Currently on the show, we

1398
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: see you pursuing Katie we also have seen now that

1399
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: Analyse have gone home kind of blindsided by you. And

1400
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: that's the word I think she uses, is that, you know,

1401
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: she's blindsided by you. She's not thrilled. Um, Chris, can

1402
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: you explain a little bit. This is your moment to

1403
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 1: explain that relationship. We need to see a lot of

1404
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: it on the show, so we need you to help

1405
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: us catch it up. Yeah. You know, with Analyze it

1406
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: was tough. M You know, we did spend a decent

1407
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: amount of times together and um, you know, we had

1408
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: a decent connection, and you know, for me it was

1409
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: it was just a little overwhelming for how early on

1410
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: it was. And you know, I wanted to be very

1411
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: open minded and coming, you know, and and just six

1412
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: splore and get the middle of everybody. Honestly, I didn't

1413
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: do any research. I didn't know anybody coming onto this season, so, um,

1414
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: everyone was brand new to me. I wanted to, you know,

1415
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: give myself the opportunity to get to know everybody. Um,

1416
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 1: And you know, early on it was just with Analysa

1417
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: just kind of it seemed like she was a little

1418
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: ahead of me getting trying to get early serious really

1419
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: early on, and we didn't have to see a lot

1420
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: of that UM and you know, I, you know, I

1421
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: was my roast to gift and I wanted to be

1422
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 1: able to um, you know, keep an open mind and

1423
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: get to meet more people and at the same time

1424
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: and not lead analyze further on. You know, it wasn't

1425
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: a relationship that was going to happen past that first week. So, UM,

1426
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: it was tough. I mean, it was tough when when

1427
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: it all went down. But I was hoping you know,

1428
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: it almost was doing her ow favor, uh you know,

1429
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: uh instead of kind of waiting until the next row

1430
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: ceremony of the road ceremony after that, you know, not

1431
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: good for a rose and Alicia's can't catch a break.

1432
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: She's one of almost famous, his most consistent guests, and

1433
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: she continues to just yeah, just fall swart Man, maybe

1434
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: she can come. I felt bad. I felt bad. You know,

1435
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: she is she is, you know, one of the older people,

1436
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: and she is genuinely looking for someone. And you know,

1437
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: she got her heartbroken at the reunion show on the

1438
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: last season, So it was tough. I'm not sure if

1439
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: there was anyone there you know that was I can't

1440
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: say that for her honestly, but you know, it was.

1441
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: It was tough. Honestly, it wasn't. I struggled for a

1442
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: couple of days actually that Uh you know, so you

1443
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: know it was. It was tough all around. I'm sure

1444
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: a lot tougher for her than it was for me. Well, yeah,

1445
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 1: I definitely think so, because now we see you happily

1446
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: pursuing Katie. You gave your rose to Christina, but you

1447
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: have your eye on Katie and we're pumped, pumped as

1448
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: the viewers to see how this plays out. Okay, final

1449
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: questions for you, Chris as a just put your co

1450
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: ho has had on for a second? Uh, you're helping

1451
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: me with this. What couples in Paradise? Are you most

1452
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: excited to see their love story play out throughout this season?

1453
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I'm really excited to see to see

1454
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: Clay and Nicole's love story play out. You call such

1455
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: a personality and plays you know, he's such a big

1456
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: teddy bear. Um, but they're they're almost I wanted to

1457
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: say opposite, but there's don't have too much in common,

1458
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: so you know, it was funny to kind of be around,

1459
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to see that play out. I'm

1460
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: really hopeful for it, and of course, you know, you

1461
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: know Dylan and Hannah, it's just like the all American

1462
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: cute kind of kind of story. And to see how

1463
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: it plays out with them, it was really you know,

1464
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that as well. Yeah. Man,

1465
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: well hey, uh, last thing, what are you up to

1466
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: these days? You can take a little second here and

1467
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: just promote whatever you have going on. Yeah, definitely. Um,

1468
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, I still have my restaurant that I opened

1469
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: up back in and she got thirteen, so I have

1470
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: three in the DC area, So I came are flying

1471
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: in DC. There's there's actually one adults airport, one Reagan Airport,

1472
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: and then the flagship restaurants out in U Starlingcome Virginia. Um.

1473
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: And I also started digital agency when I was moving

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Speaker 1: out in l a few years back called k CUM Creates.

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Speaker 1: We do everything mostly focused on building apps and websites

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: and search of marketing and all that good stuff. And um,

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Speaker 1: just doing a lot of traveling all over the place

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hustling grinding them. Where's what's your

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Speaker 1: restaurants called? They're called Bracket Room Perfect. Well, hey, well

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Speaker 1: we'll check those out. Final thing for you, Chris, what

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Speaker 1: are the chances that you walk away from paradise and love.

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01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: I would say that I walk away from paradise with love.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll be watching for you, buddy, things for

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Speaker 1: coming on all right? Then? Thank you. Hey, we miss Ashley.

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Speaker 1: We miss Ashley a ton and she's gonna be back here,

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Speaker 1: uh in a couple of weeks. We're gonna give a

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Speaker 1: break she needs, going on our honeymoon and do what

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01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: honeymooners do and see what honeymooners see and experience life

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: and it's fullest. We're gonna take a little break from Ashley,

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: but we're gonna continue to stick around and talk about

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise as often as much as you all need.

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01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: To make sure you rate us on the app. Please

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: give us whatever you feel like it's appropriate, one to

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01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: five stars. We prefer five. Um. If you don't like us,

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01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: give us a one. At least you care review us.

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01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: Say something positive not negative. We don't need to read

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: anything negative about any of us. But also, you guys

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01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: were amazing last week to me. When I asked you

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Speaker 1: to come out and say an expressive for friends or not,

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Speaker 1: many of you did it. I hope I UM saw

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: your tweet because it meant so much to me personally.

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01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: It really encouraged me through the week last week, uh,

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Speaker 1: and this week I want to give the directive. I

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Speaker 1: know this is kind of two weeks ago, but Ashley's

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01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: on our honeymoon and Jared's on there on his honeymoon.

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: Reach out to both of them via so type social

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Speaker 1: media and just tell them how much you'll love them,

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01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: how excited you are for them to start this next

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01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: chapter in life, and how even if you couldn't be

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Speaker 1: at the wedding, you still are proudly voicing your support

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Speaker 1: of this marriage and that you will stand beside them

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Speaker 1: from this moment forward as they continue to go through

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Speaker 1: not an easy, not always a fun um and not

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Speaker 1: always the most exciting, but the most fulfilling ride that

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Speaker 1: we can find with a partner in life. And that

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Speaker 1: is a commitment to say you are mine, forever and ever. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we saw in the teasers for this next episode, the

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Speaker 1: battle for hannah Gee continues. Blake admits he flew out

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01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: to Alabama to see Hannah Gee before Paradise. Oh, this

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Speaker 1: is not gonna go good for Blake, and Deane is

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Speaker 1: coming down, caterpillar on his face and all Hey, people

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Speaker 1: in studio, follow my lead. I've been Been, I've been, Tori,

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Speaker 1: I've been, Danielle, what About and we Are The Almost

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Speaker 1: from his pod cast. Thank you for listening. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back talking about Bachelor in Paradise very soon. Follow the

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Speaker 1: Bennon Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio

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