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Speaker 3: So this week, I'm going to try to eat a

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Speaker 3: vegetable every other day and see how it works out.

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Speaker 3: That's like a pretty easy and like attainable goal. Right.

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Speaker 3: If you like carrots, just put carrots next to your

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Speaker 3: I don't drink enough water, and I should drink water.

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Speaker 3: Water is good for you. Our bodies are running it

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Speaker 4: We have a special guest who's going to help you

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Speaker 4: reach your body goals hashtag body goals by examining your

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Speaker 4: relationship with food. As the co founder of Collina Heath,

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Speaker 4: Vanessa risetto her magic lies and her realistic and personalized

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Speaker 4: plans back by evidence based science driven nutrition, counseling, adult

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Speaker 4: weight management, and building a better relationship with food. Vanessa

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Speaker 4: pashtag black row Magic. Welcome to the show, Vanessa. We're

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Speaker 4: That is incredible. Yeah, that is wow, Vanessa, that's huge.

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Speaker 1: we need to ask for based on our needs.

431
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so a dietitian is the only one that's clinically trained, right.

432
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: So it's like I will never tell somebody to go

433
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: see a life coach. I'm like, not, you got to

434
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 3: see a therapists. You need somebody with a degree, right,

435
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: Like I need to know that the people that I'm

436
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: referring you to can handle you, because I don't know

437
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: the level of what's going on with you. Like you

438
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: could say you have anxiety, but like then I send

439
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: you to a therapist and they're like this person is

440
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: cutting and you're like okay, So a life coach was

441
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 3: not going to be able to help you. And so

442
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: it's the same thing with the registered diet So I

443
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: take a name in physiology, biokem, organic chemistry, I sit

444
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: next to mens students and nursing students, and I do

445
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: a twelve hundred hour internship in the hospital, and I

446
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: sit for an exam. Anyone can wake up tomorrow and

447
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: call themselves a nutritionist, and they do. And that is

448
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: why the space is so fragmented, because these people who

449
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: don't really have a lot of knowledge, who just have

450
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: like pieces, bits and pieces, and they have these sound bites.

451
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: They're the ones disseminating this information, and they're the ones

452
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: that people are noticing, and they have books, and like,

453
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: there's an influencer that I see who it's very sad

454
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 3: because she definitely has an eating disorder. She has a

455
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: book deal, she's verified. She tells people that she was

456
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 3: so skinny because she had candida and you know, gut issues,

457
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: and she has all the physical manifestations that we learn

458
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: about for someone with a very bad eating disorder. But

459
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: here we are like celebrating her with her five hundred

460
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: thousand followers, and that is what's happening in this space.

461
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, you know, TikTok and Instagram are dangerous,

462
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 3: dangerous plays and yeah, and so like the thing with food, right,

463
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: it's like food is culture. Food is how you connect

464
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 3: to people. Food is it brings up, you know, really

465
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: happy feelings, right, It could also bring up with some

466
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: dark feelings too. So it's a muddy place to be

467
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: if you have a lot of emotional issues around it,

468
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: and a lot of people do. That's the other thing

469
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: I think people feel really shameful that they can't quote

470
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Speaker 3: unquote control themselves. But you know, I tell people all

471
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: the time, if you are very controlled all day long,

472
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: super perfect in your mind and really rigid, when you

473
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: come home and you can decompress, what's the first thing

474
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: to go? What's the what do you do? This is

475
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: when people open their refrigerators and they eat three thousand

476
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: calories worth of food and they haven't even sat down,

477
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: Because it's this mindless place.

478
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Speaker 5: That makes so much sense.

479
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Speaker 2: It really does.

480
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: And I like the way that you describe the difference

481
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 4: between the two to let folks know, you know who

482
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: they should go to based on where they are in

483
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: their lives. When you think about nutrition, is there anything

484
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: that you wish more women knew about nutrition in general?

485
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that people have to give themselves a

486
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: lot of grace because they're comparing themselves to people with

487
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: like a million resources, Like y'all, I'm trying to look

488
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: like Jane Fonda at eighty three. I'm trying to look

489
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: like Jalo at fifty two. But I don't have their money,

490
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I don't have it. I

491
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: don't have this feeling for someone to take a cherry

492
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: tomato and make it taste like a chocolate covered strawberries.

493
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't have someone that's gonna take

494
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: my kids to school at eight o'clock in the morning.

495
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean, my husband will do it for me. But

496
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, so you have to

497
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: be realistic. You are not. You cannot do what they do. Also, like,

498
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: if you think about Jalo, she doesn't drink alcohol, she

499
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: doesn't eat rice. She's Puerto Rican. You don't eat rice.

500
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: Like this is not a happy thing. So like, but

501
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: that's that's real though, that's a that's a valid point. Yeah,

502
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: Like you know you're right and your Puerto Rican I

503
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: don't understand, But okay, if that's how you do it,

504
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: that's how you doing it. So, yeah, you want to

505
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: look like her. She's working. So don't start to get

506
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: yourself discouraged because you don't fit something when you aren't

507
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: even you can't you're not even on the same playing

508
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: field as as a person. So that's number one. Also,

509
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: if we all ate the same thing every single day,

510
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: all of our bodies would be different. I had my daughter.

511
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: I have a nine year old daughter, and I was like,

512
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: I got to I gotta make some doctor talk to

513
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: her about puberty, because I don't want these Catholic school

514
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: nuns talking to her about something I don't know. It's scary.

515
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: So I had her go on this zoom and it

516
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: was a doctor, a female doctor, with other eight to

517
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: ten year olds talking about puberty. And the doctor was like, okay,

518
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: she would show. She showed bodies. She's like, all of

519
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: these bodies are going through puberty. They all look different,

520
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: but they are all normal, and they are all beautiful.

521
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: And there was a really small body and a really

522
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: large body and body's in between. And I'm like, exactly,

523
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: everybody is going to go through the same thing, or

524
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: they might be doing the same thing, but everybody's body

525
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: is different and there's nothing you can do about it.

526
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: That's a really good point, especially in this day and

527
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: age when I know we've talked about like plastic surgery

528
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: on our channel, which we totally you know, it's a

529
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: woman's choice to do that, but I think there's a

530
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: lot of body dysmorphia that we're seeing on social media

531
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: and things like that in comparisons. I'm so glad you

532
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: made that point.

533
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that point.

534
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: That you're making too that everybody's body is different, and

535
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: like this negative comparison of ourselves to others, it can

536
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: fuel some of those dangerous or unhealthy eating patterns. And

537
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: so as I'm thinking about it at the time that

538
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: we're recording this and the time that episode.

539
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: Will air, we're coming up on the holiday season. Now,

540
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: I don't know. I only speak for myself that there are.

541
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: Just lots of really delicious dishes that I love to have.

542
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: Around the holidays. And so.

543
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: What would be your suggestions for folks who are saying, well,

544
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: I want to be more mindful about my eating habits

545
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: as I move into this holiday season in the warmer weather,

546
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: when we tend to consume I don't know it's unhealthy

547
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: as the word, but heavier portions of.

548
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: Shoot, yeah, I think I's tell you even that it's

549
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: unhealthy per se. It's that it's a lot of celebrating

550
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: day after day after day, right, Like I'm like, oh, well,

551
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: here's Halloween. It's that first Reesis's peanut butter Cup is

552
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: like thee the descent into a mess, like you can't

553
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: that's it. It's over after this. And so then it's like, oh,

554
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: let's get together like holiday cheer, and like Thanksgiving, we're

555
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: gonna have like four friends Givings, and then we're gonna

556
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: have our family Thanksgiving. Then it's December and oh it's

557
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: a cookie swap and it's a cocktail this, and and

558
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: you're like, what do I need to go to every

559
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: single thing? That's number one? Well, first of all, what

560
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: is the goal. If the goal is if it's every

561
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: Vanessa every year at the holidays, I gain ten pounds

562
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: and then I have to work for six months to

563
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: get it off. Okay, So the goal is this year

564
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: not to be into ten pounds. Okay, fine, First of all,

565
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: don't starve yourself for anything that you're going to. This

566
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: is like, I don't know why nobody gets this yet,

567
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: but if forever everyone's like, I'm just not gonna eat,

568
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go to this party tonight and I'm

569
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: gonna eat, eat your food, eat your regular meal. So

570
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: then when you go to the party, you don't have

571
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: to go put your fingers in the chick dip and

572
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: the and you know, the meats and the cheeses, because

573
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: you ate normally and you had a snack before you

574
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: left your house, so you don't you can omit those

575
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: things and eat the regular meal. Also, if you know

576
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: that it's just going to be cocktails and appetizers, eat

577
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: a regular meal, your normal sized meal. So that then

578
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: you just go and you have some cocktails with your

579
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: friends and maybe like a small dessert. But again, you

580
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: didn't overdo it, right, then you don't have to go

581
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: to every single thing. Stay home, y'all. Don't you want

582
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: to go to sleep? I'm tired. You can't catch me out.

583
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, nope, I don't want your drinks. I don't

584
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: want your deserts. I don't want your cookie spot. Leave

585
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: it at your house. So it's got to be like

586
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 3: my people to go out. And I get we have

587
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: obligations and whatever, but say to yourself, okay, these are

588
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: work people. How many of you? I mean I do

589
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: have some work people that are like ride or die,

590
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: but really, just like, these are work people. Two hours,

591
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: one drink, bye, Gotta go and make your plan with

592
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: your husband, your partner, your sister, your best friend to

593
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: be like, oh, actually I have a dinner with somebody

594
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: that I really want to be in that person's company,

595
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: and you can have something low key. It doesn't have

596
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: to be over the top. Those are just like really

597
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: basic strategies. But one year my husband was like, God,

598
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: every day is a party. I'm like, damn, stay home.

599
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: His face was like, oh, yeah, I could just stay home.

600
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, like that's an option.

601
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: He was like, I had no idea. Why do you

602
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: have to go? Especially now that it's COVID, Guys, you

603
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: don't have to go anywhere.

604
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 5: Is such a great excuse.

605
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: Right that.

606
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, COVID, I will say, having a new porn so

607
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: hopefully I don't hear the new porn in the background,

608
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: But having a baby.

609
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Too, I'm like, oh, this is the best experience free.

610
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah.

611
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: It's so free. You are the luckliest Harry because you're

612
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: sorry COVID baby bye, And people.

613
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: Know it and they're just like, oh yeah, I think yes,

614
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: it's so amazing.

615
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to give your baby COVID, So who'll

616
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: stay home?

617
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Okay? That work now.

618
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: And one of your interviews, Finnas, you talked about the

619
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: importance of pairing carbs, protein, and fats in each meal.

620
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Can you talk about the importance of that.

621
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Speaker 4: That's like, that is such an easy tip that we

622
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: can all use in our day to day, whether it's breakfast, snack, lunch, dinner, whatever,

623
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: So why is it important?

624
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: Yep?

625
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: So here's your biochemistry lesson. So I counsel off the

626
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: diabetic exchange really easy and flexible. Here you go. If

627
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: you eat too many carves, or if you eat only

628
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: carb at breakfast, for example, what happens. It spikes your

629
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 3: blood sugar. It tells your liver make calories and store fat.

630
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: It mobilizes insulin to help with the carbohydrates to enter

631
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: the cells because carb is our main source of energy.

632
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: Insulin is a storage hormone. So if you have too

633
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: much insulin, your weight is going to be up. But

634
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: if you have protein, fat and carb in the right amount,

635
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: instead of your blood sugar spiking, your blood sugar will

636
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: just like come up and just stay steady, so you're

637
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: not going to have this really intense burst of insulin

638
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: coming out. So that's why I always say, like right,

639
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 3: Type one diabetics are always really thin, they don't have

640
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: any insulin usually, and type two diabetics are overweight sometimes

641
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: o bees because they have too much insulin. This dysregulation

642
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: of insulin. That's the way look at it. So pairing

643
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: your food, never omitting anything, and so some really easy ways,

644
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Speaker 3: right like you eat a banana by itself, like okay,

645
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: that's just calories and there's some fiber in there, but

646
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: where's the protein, where's the fat? So add peanut butter

647
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: on it. That's protein and fat and there you go.

648
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: You just did it. Or if you're having berries, for example,

649
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: like raspberries have a crams of fiber. That's a good

650
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Speaker 3: amount of fiber, but they don't have any protein or fat.

651
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: So you can make an oatmeal and add some chia

652
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Speaker 3: and peanut butter. You can have some pistachios just to

653
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: like even that out, or a cheese stick. Or if

654
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: you're eating like chicken right then and you have like broccoli,

655
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: well then where's your starch? So you could have a

656
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: half a cup of rice and beans or earlier I

657
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: had squashed like whatever. That is just to make sure

658
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Speaker 3: that you are stabilizing your but suprain. Also, when you

659
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Speaker 3: don't omit any macronutrient protein, fat, and carbs, then you're

660
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 3: not going to be hungry. So when you omit carbs

661
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: in the earlier in the day at night, you're just

662
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: gonna crave them. You're not doing yourself any favor. So

663
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Speaker 3: frontload them in the day so that at night you're

664
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Speaker 3: not looking for pies while you're watching television.

665
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Speaker 4: I gotcha, noted, I didn't know. You must have saw

666
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: me with the cookies last night I made.

667
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Speaker 2: That's that's what I want to hear. That's what I

668
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: want to hear.

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Speaker 5: You sustain.

670
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: You sustain that baby's life for nine months, ten months.

671
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: Now you want to sustain that baby's life, but the

672
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Speaker 3: next twelve months, make sure that they are getting their

673
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Speaker 3: life together.

674
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Speaker 2: Like, yes, I love it.

675
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: Whatever you want, you want to do, whatever you want.

676
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: You need to sleep and feed your baby. That's it.

677
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 5: Okay.

678
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: So now I mean I don't have any kids, so

679
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: now I need what's my reason?

680
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Speaker 5: How can I eat cookies?

681
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: I love golden oreos and I usually limit myself to

682
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: one serving a day.

683
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: Just two.

684
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 3: It's three three okay?

685
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 5: Uh huh yeah. See that's how I know.

686
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't take that away from me. Don't take it off.

687
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: You deserve the cookies. If the listen, three cookies a

688
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: day is not ruining anyone's.

689
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: Life, thank you.

690
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: Why should you restrict yourself if you said for us?

691
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Speaker 3: So I eat a sleeve and a half of oreos

692
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: A day, we have a problem. Yeah, that would be

693
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: because that would tell me that in the day, you're

694
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: not eating enough carbohydrate and so you're not you don't

695
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: have enough fruits, you don't have enough vegetables, you're not

696
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: bury your diet, you know what I mean. Like, that's

697
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: that is the indicator to me. So, but three little

698
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: cookies a day, please enjoy it? Okay, it's fine. Yeah,

699
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: people feel guilty about stuff. I mean the other day

700
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: I did so Trader Joe sells these dark chocolate sea

701
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: salt mini gram crackers. Those things cannot come to my house.

702
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh so good. So I buy them for the kids

703
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: lunch box because you know, I do a little bento box.

704
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: I put like a little chocolate here, you know, spread

705
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: it out. The other day, my son Rocco, he was like, Mama,

706
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: where are the cram crackers. I was like, Sam, Mommy

707
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: ate them. Okay, He's like, can you buy them again?

708
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: I was like, no, these things can not come to

709
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: my house because they're so tiny and you're just popping

710
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: them in your mouth. Right. So there's that. But when

711
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: you're telling me that you have three and you feel

712
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: satisfied and you're moving on with your day, yeah, it's good.

713
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you all right.

714
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, lady, we told you. But that's a goddess Van,

715
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: that's a god us.

716
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, So we are at the point in the

717
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: conversation where we want to shift up the energy a

718
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 4: little bit, okay, And because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate

719
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: the multifaceted woman, and we believe that it's okay to

720
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: be bougie, classy and ratchet. Right, you can still be

721
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 4: elegant and dance to strip club music if you so choose.

722
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: We want to invite you to the oh you blatchet segment?

723
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: So do you take on the challenge?

724
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: I take it on. I don't know what it is,

725
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 3: but we love.

726
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: Love that you agreed before checking in. So we're going

727
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: to tell you what you agreed to right now. So

728
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you, don't ask you three questions.

729
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Don't be scared, don't scare it. Three questions. That's it.

730
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: Three questions. We're going to share three sentence completions.

731
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: And then we have three photos pulled up of you

732
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: on the big screen, and we're going to share the

733
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: screen and you have to choose between one of these

734
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: three photos and give us more context on something that

735
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: we could not see or something we wouldn't know based

736
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: on the photo that you choose. Okay, ready to go,

737
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm ready, all right, let's do it, alright, doc the dam.

738
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna start you off classy. Okay,

739
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: what is the best piece of wisdom or advice you've

740
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: ever received?

741
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: You got to pay to play?

742
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Oh what does that mean a little bit?

743
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 6: Yeah?

744
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: So you know, you always know what you're in for, right,

745
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: and so don't all of a sudden act brand new

746
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: when it didn't go exactly the way you wanted it to.

747
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: You got to you. So if you're going to marry

748
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: some guy that's really rich and you don't have to

749
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: work because his parents are providing for you, but then

750
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 3: he's not that nice to you and now you want out,

751
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: don't act new when you don't get anything. You got

752
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: to pay to play.

753
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: There we have it, There we have it.

754
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: You got to pay to.

755
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: The next question. It's a little more on the ratchet side. Okay,

756
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: So that's it. I have four words for you, okay,

757
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: twork or two steps?

758
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

759
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: I love how.

760
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: Yes Meganzie Stallion is my guilty pleasure by the way,

761
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: So yes, yeah, I love her. Yeah, of course that's

762
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: her in the car, And when you really listen to

763
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: her lyrics, you're like, I want to be like her

764
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: because she loves herself so much, you should love yourself

765
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 3: as much.

766
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 4: Yes, we talked about her and her knees on the

767
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 4: podcast all the time.

768
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: We Love You.

769
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: Should have an episode all about her knees and how

770
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: she makes the work.

771
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 3: But yes, yes, working for you? Mean all right?

772
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 5: So, speaking of loving yourself, what.

773
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Is the sexiest item that you own?

774
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 3: I wish I was really exciting, but I'm not. So.

775
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: Oh I have gold lubatan blubton.

776
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Oh oh yes, it's gonna show them to me.

777
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Okay, you.

778
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: Get to see this.

779
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 6: Why Lets yes, and my husband bought them for me

780
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: because we were going to a really fancy wedding and

781
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 6: he saw my dress, so he bought them for me

782
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 6: for Christmas because the wedding was on New Year's Eve.

783
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

784
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: So now we're going to move into the sentence completions.

785
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: So complete this sentence, Vanessa. One question or topic I

786
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: wish people ask me about more often is my thoughts.

787
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: On nutrition, not as it relates to because when you're

788
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: talking to Joy Bauer. You don't ask her what she

789
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: thinks about race and nutrition. You ask her about how

790
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: carbohydrates are broken down into the body. You can ask

791
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: me that same question because I know the answer to Oh, okay, gotcha.

792
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: It's important. That is an important point.

793
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: Yes, they see a woman of color and they want

794
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: to just kind of put.

795
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: You on and like, I'm happy to talk about that,

796
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: but like, can you ask me about science?

797
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: I love it?

798
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, come with the right questions.

799
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 5: Do better people do that?

800
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: All right?

801
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: So, Vanessa, this next sentence completion, the most embarrassing thing

802
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: I've ever done to get my husband's attention is No,

803
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not.

804
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: No.

805
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 2: She said she ain't going to put it out there.

806
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, I don't. I didn't have to do

807
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 3: anything to get anyone.

808
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, she says she got it like that.

809
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

810
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, He's like, hello, I love you. I'm like

811
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: that's so good.

812
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: Thank you?

813
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: Mean keep them keen, I don't give them. He's wonderful.

814
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: He's always like, well, that's the give. It is almost like, oh, Michael,

815
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: Vanessa says so many nice things about you. He was like, yeah,

816
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: she would never tell me anything nice to my face

817
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: because treated me and keep him keen. I'm like, see

818
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: he knows, he knows.

819
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: Yes, Well this I think this sentence completion, I think

820
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna enjoy this one. The last sentence completion we

821
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: have for you is what I love most about myself is.

822
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: That I'm really kind because I do care about other people,

823
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: and how I treat them an effect, and like how

824
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: I behave affects them.

825
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love it.

826
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: Because then you'll wish you died. So there's there.

827
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 5: You go.

828
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay that part there you go. Don't get it, twisty,

829
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't get twisted.

830
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

831
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: So, Vanessa, we have three photos pulled up from Instagram,

832
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: and we want you to choose a number between one

833
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: and three, and then we're going to share the screen

834
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: and share with you the image that you chose.

835
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: Okay, two, two.

836
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: I'm so happy you chose this one. Okay, here we go.

837
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: Tell us more about this photo.

838
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So you guys should need to know that I

839
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: actually like hate photos and and Instagram and all of that.

840
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: I don't like it, but I do have a really

841
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: great team. And my Instagram person her name is Tiffany,

842
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: and she's a very good friend and we work really

843
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: well together and she keeps me like super focused and

844
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: on task and she's like, I needed to make a

845
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: video about this. She's great. And we were doing a

846
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: photo shoot at a local cheese pizza place in Hoboken

847
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: that is my friend's place. Dozie knows if anyone's in

848
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: Hoboken goes to trick out and she was like, can

849
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: you please give me pictures. I'm like, leave me alone,

850
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: Tiviany no, and she's like, something, give me anything. That's

851
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: so I made this face and they took a picture

852
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: and the homegirl put it off on the ground.

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00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's definitely it's cute.

854
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: It's definitely a fun picture. I'm glad that I'm glad that.

855
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: She posted it. I'm glad that you told that one

856
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: because I get curious about it. So we got the

857
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: inside scoop on that. Yeah and yeah, honestly, and so we.

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00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Just want to thank you so much for your time.

859
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: You just gave the nutrition.

860
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: You just make this topic so much more approachable and

861
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: we appreciate having someone that can just break it down

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Speaker 4: and make it approachable for us. And so you You're

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