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Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on. Normally the show was normal.

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Speaker 1: It takes but when the news gets weird. I am

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Speaker 1: Mary Caps.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Karl Marco.

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Speaker 3: It's so nice to see you again, Mary Catherine.

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Speaker 2: We had a wonderful day in our nation's capital yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It was very busy, and I have to tell you,

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Speaker 2: I just imagine you guys live like that all the time.

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Speaker 2: I would just saying, you're like at the State Department

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Speaker 2: seeing the first lady in a leopard coat dress every day.

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Speaker 1: No, no, that's not how it goes.

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Speaker 4: In fact, yesterday was a very DC day for us,

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Speaker 4: and ironically we did not record while we were together.

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Speaker 3: No, why would we do that.

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Speaker 4: We we went to the State Department for the International

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Speaker 4: Women of Courage event, which was wonderful and we got

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Speaker 4: to miss any of the international activists who, at great

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Speaker 4: risk to themselves and great pain at some times, are

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Speaker 4: able to stand up for women in their communities, including one.

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Speaker 1: Of the released hostages from is I Meet Susanna.

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Speaker 4: We also saw Keith Siegel, who was recently released, and

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Speaker 4: just as it's always a surprise to see someone you've

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Speaker 4: been praying for, especially in dire circumstances, like that, and

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Speaker 4: then to see him well in a room at the

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Speaker 4: State Department having more d'eures that would be so happful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that It really was so nice to see him.

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Speaker 2: The whole event was really well done. Moving Marco Rubia spoke,

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Speaker 2: the first lady spoke again. She looked phenomenal. I posted

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Speaker 2: some pictures of her fit. Pam Bondi was there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just a generally incredible event. And then you and I

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Speaker 2: went and did something that we're only going to tell

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Speaker 2: our listeners about as a little preview.

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Speaker 3: But where we went you could tell, you could say,

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Speaker 3: you could finish my thought.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we went over and recorded a little ruthless with

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Speaker 4: the fellas. Yeah, that's a programming note, stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 4: Check it out next week sometime.

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Speaker 1: We'll let you guys know. Yeah, had a great time

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Speaker 1: with them.

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Speaker 4: Wandered around the city, got stuck in the cherry blossom traffic,

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Speaker 4: which Carol did not believe was only because of cherry blossoms,

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Speaker 4: and indeed, well not.

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Speaker 3: Sure really, everybody just came to see trees.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's real.

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Speaker 4: The city is a nightmare during peak bloom, as they

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Speaker 4: call it, and this is peak bloom. It always comes

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Speaker 4: on my birthday week. I always end up sort of

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Speaker 4: half sick on my birthday week as a result, because

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Speaker 4: the pollen is everywhere. Actually at Ruthless's Josh Holmes, who

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Speaker 4: was on Special Report with me last night, which is

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Speaker 4: how I ended my very DC day.

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Speaker 1: So funny.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you skipped the part where we have a drink

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Speaker 2: with Seth Dylan that we just randomly ran into him.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that I just imagine just happens in DC

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Speaker 2: all the time. Oh hey, there's Seth Dylan from Babylon Bee,

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Speaker 2: let's go grab a drink.

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Speaker 1: How to drink with him?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: It was very very posh.

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Speaker 4: And then I went over to Special Report and Josh

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Speaker 4: Holmes and I were talking about the cherry blossoms and

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Speaker 1: Believe that the cherry blossoms created all these.

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Speaker 3: Pubs, but they that's made up, okay.

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Speaker 4: And Holmes said, I make I charted as the first

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Speaker 4: act of international terrorism that the Japanese games.

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Speaker 3: I see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is every.

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Speaker 4: Every spring break group, every family vacation, every like everyone

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Speaker 1: They want to see that.

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Speaker 4: And truly if you ever want to see the cherry

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Speaker 4: blossoms in DC. They're everywhere, so you don't have to

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Speaker 4: go to the title basin, which is where everyone goes

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Speaker 4: just explained how the cherry blossoms are causing all these problems.

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Speaker 4: But it is very beautiful and when you go, it

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That means you have to get up, which

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Speaker 1: is even worse sunrise all right, because there's no look

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Speaker 3: I feel like you don't even know me.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't tailored to you. That's correct.

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Speaker 4: That pitch was not for you. Yeah, it's it's annoying,

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Speaker 4: but it's the only time to see them without a

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Speaker 4: gajillion people around. So you get your little Instagram shots

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Speaker 4: with no one in them, like you own the title basin.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good point for the instagrammers out there.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Mary Catherine, go go take the pictures.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was our that was our big DC day.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm tired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was exhausting.

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Speaker 3: Wow, we did a lot. I loved seeing you. It

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Speaker 3: was a real good time.

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Speaker 2: Next time, maybe we will record something together. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: take our producer John with us.

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Speaker 3: Maybe all three of us will go look at flowering trees.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, also, by the way, now that I've already

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Speaker 4: complained about all these petty little tiny things in my life,

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Speaker 4: I should say that going to the International Women of

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Speaker 4: Faso and all of these places, U wonders for your

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Speaker 4: perspective on how much you care about the traffic in

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Speaker 1: Because true, too true.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, we have some news that we're going to

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Speaker 2: be discussing. Yesterday there was a few special elections around

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Speaker 2: those the Democrats won, and the two Florida ones were

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Speaker 2: won by Republicans. So obviously the news today is Republicans

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Speaker 3: And you know that's the end of that. You know,

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Speaker 3: when one party gets a big.

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Speaker 2: Win like Republicans had in November. There's always this sense

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Speaker 2: like we will never lose again, we can't possibly lose.

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Speaker 3: Look how good we're doing.

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Speaker 2: And I never enjoy that.

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Speaker 3: I always think we can lose. They can lose, we

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Speaker 3: can lose.

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Speaker 1: Everybody can lose, like.

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Speaker 2: One of them all telling things to me in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, I did not think Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: did I never even entertain that idea. That's crazy, that's

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Speaker 3: You didn't think it was possible for them to win.

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Speaker 4: So what's going to happen is that after Trump is elected,

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Speaker 4: there will be these elections that people read way too

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Speaker 4: much into right And in Florida, of course, the results

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Speaker 4: But Democrats had been really touting we're going to spend

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Speaker 1: To really close the gap, if not beat these guys.

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Speaker 1: And that's not what happened there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that's not what happened. The

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Speaker 2: Washington Post thinks that is what happened. The Washington Post

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Speaker 2: thinks this was a success for Democrats. Their headline on

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Speaker 2: this was Democrats won a Wisconsin Supreme Court race and

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Speaker 4: Many other races were called ten minutes after the polls closed.

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Speaker 1: Barely ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: They write, We've seen before that Trump voters just aren't

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Speaker 2: as likely to show up for races that don't feature

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Speaker 2: Trump after all. Again, not true. Ron DeSantis won by

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Speaker 2: nineteen points. I think that that is just something that

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Speaker 2: they make up. And this is really the quote that

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Speaker 2: gets to me quote. In the end, Democrats overperformed their

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four margins by about sixteen points in the

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Speaker 2: twenty two points in the first, which Trump had won

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Speaker 2: by thirty seven. There have been about three dozen special

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Democrats twenty two point overperformance in Florida's first

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Speaker 2: district was their best of any of those races, according

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Speaker 2: to data compiled by down ballot daily cost elections. Their

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Speaker 2: sixteen point overperformance in the sixth district was tied for

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Speaker 2: their sixth best.

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, that sounds like a lot of ways to

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Speaker 1: say we lost.

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Speaker 2: That is some Mathew math.

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Speaker 1: So I'm clear.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats' best performance in a special election under Trump

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Speaker 2: was in Florida's first district, which they lost by fourteen points.

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Speaker 1: Like, may all their wins be this good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think I think the Wisconsin one is

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin Supreme court races have been nationalized for a while now,

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Speaker 4: a degree that these special elections end up costing a

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Speaker 4: for special election for it or for a supreme court election,

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Speaker 4: fairly large turnout at tension nationally, the fact that this

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Speaker 1: So Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: They ended up losing by like ten or eleven points

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Speaker 4: this Supreme Court seat, which will make a difference in

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Speaker 4: the future, possibly for redistricting things and for the general

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Speaker 4: well being of the state. The fact that they didn't

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Speaker 4: a little concerning. There's a concern that Elon and Elon's

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Speaker 4: something to be concerned about looking forward.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I will say this.

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Speaker 2: I have a polster that follows me. His name is

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Speaker 2: Rick Schaftan, and he messaged me weeks ago saying we're

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Speaker 3: With the purpose of a Supreme Court justice there.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to say that there were Republican

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Speaker 2: operatives who were aware that this wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: just sending me this information. This was something he had

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Speaker 3: For them probably mindset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably being too strong about it. Is.

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Speaker 4: It concerns me that it was such a large margin, right,

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Speaker 4: And I didn't expect that. I did expect it to

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Speaker 4: be a close slash blue leaning race.

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Speaker 3: For sure, Right.

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Speaker 2: And look, the thing is, it makes sense that Democrats

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump just won this major election. It wasn't close.

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Speaker 2: It was called the Night of It's just you know,

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Speaker 2: he won every single swing state. Obviously they're going to

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Speaker 3: Please don't do this to us.

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Speaker 2: Now, I feel like I understood a lot about this.

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Speaker 2: forward to seeing where this goes. John Carney, a friend

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Speaker 2: So we'll see, we'll see whether Americans enjoy the fighting

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Speaker 4: It's like, dudes, y'all, y'all are just mad that you

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Speaker 2: So now the books are coming out and it turns out,

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Speaker 2: I feel you, I feel you, Joe. I also like

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Speaker 4: Obsessed about foreign leaders saying, these guys say I'm doing

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: He's doing it every day, he's doing it successfully. In

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Speaker 2: Right, And I saw that tweet by Powell, and the

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Speaker 3: We were all saying all along.

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Speaker 4: Yes, David French, by the way, the conscience of our

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Speaker 1: Get another four years out of this. Advise, dude, right.

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Speaker 4: It's not a messaging problem, it's not an undermining problem.

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Speaker 4: It is the character of the Biden family and those

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Speaker 2: really got bad towards the end line because they are

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Speaker 2: focusing on when he's already running against Trump. But I

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Speaker 2: looked it up, and I had a piece in the

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Speaker 2: New York Post in twenty twenty two called Biden's decline

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Speaker 2: is obvious to everyone but the press. And my opening

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Speaker 2: line was, something is wrong with President Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 2: everybody knows it.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 2: I mean the lie that, oh, you know, it got

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Speaker 2: bad towards the end in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: No, it was bad the whole time.

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Speaker 1: No, or that it was news to the people who

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Speaker 1: were surrounding him. Nope, right, nope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is that all of these people are

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Speaker 2: going to have soft landings where it's going to be

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Speaker 2: completely okay because there are you know, it's a team sport,

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Speaker 2: and they were on the team and they were doing

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Speaker 2: what they could to drag this guy across the finish line.

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Speaker 3: It's just bad for our country.

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Speaker 2: I know, we're not supposed to care about the country.

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Speaker 2: We're only supposed to care about our political party.

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Speaker 3: But this is bad for the country to do this

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Speaker 3: kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: No, I always say that.

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Speaker 4: It's like, we desperately need a reliable narrator in this country,

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Speaker 4: and the media steadfastly refuses to be one.

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Speaker 3: Right, we want no part in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to help at all.

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Speaker 4: No, there's yelling at us about how the world will

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Speaker 4: end and the Republic will be doomed if we don't

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Speaker 4: listen to them.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, earn some trust.

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Speaker 4: Try that. By the way, I did, I misspoke In

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Speaker 4: that first book, Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for the

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Speaker 4: White House, which has those scoops from Claye Is, Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Allen and Amy Parnes, and then the upcoming fight after

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Speaker 4: Fight is Chris Whipples Uncharted How Trump beat Biden, Harris

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Speaker 4: and the odds and the Wildest Campaign in History. There's

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Speaker 4: also the U Tapper and Derek Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Book Yes, Yes, that's right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Which I can't remember the name of right this second.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, we're gonna have lots storied about all the things

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Speaker 4: we knew right three years ago, which.

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Speaker 3: Is to be best sellers. They're all going to be

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Speaker 3: best sellers. That's just going to be so frustrating.

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Speaker 2: That is just going to be the worst part about

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Speaker 2: it is that there's going to be a giant segment

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Speaker 2: of the population who hear about this for the very

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Speaker 2: first time who did not know. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: just Jonathan Chait is gonna chastise you, Mary Catherine, because

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it was reported the whole time.

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Speaker 1: You just didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I just at the inside joke here.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Chait in one of his recent columns, chastised Mary

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Speaker 2: Catherine when she said that a lot of the COVID

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Speaker 2: updates that are coming out now are news to the

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Speaker 2: New York Times readers.

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Speaker 1: Of the New York Times readers, they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Cover it at all, Like the potential lab leak was

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Speaker 2: considered racist, et cetera. I don't want to get into,

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Speaker 2: you know, our other mad bro topic have.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what I think we should do is

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Speaker 4: that maybe we should pitch a collection of essays on

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Speaker 4: things we knew ten years before these did best sellers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, here's some background on what you're about to discover.

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Speaker 3: Yes, everybody knew this already. Yeah, let's pitch it.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Biden stuff is truly one of the

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Speaker 4: most disgraceful actions I've ever seen around a president. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that guy couldn't do the job. We still don't know

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Speaker 4: who was doing the job. Maybe it's in one of

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Speaker 4: these books. Yeah, and worse worse than him, because politicians,

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Speaker 4: particularly ones who have lost their brains entirely and whose

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Speaker 4: families want to keep them in office to keep protecting

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Speaker 4: them from all the dastardly deeds they've done in the

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Speaker 4: conferences there, politicians do things that are bad for the

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Speaker 4: country and self centered all the time. The press's job

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Speaker 4: is to actually figure that out. And as long as

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Speaker 4: it's a Democrat not interested.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and the reporting is just not going to happen

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Speaker 2: until they're able to get a book deal after the fact.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm still mad. I'm still mad.

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Speaker 2: Bro Well, thanks for joining us on Normally Normally airs Tuesdays.

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Speaker 3: Get in touch with us.

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Speaker 2: At normallythepod at gmail dot com. Thanks for listening, and

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