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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm Kayleie sure and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say asking question. Now turn it out you okay. So,

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Speaker 1: like the rest of the world, I spent this past

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Speaker 1: weekend watching Framing Brittany, the documentary by The New York

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Speaker 1: Times that was on Hulu. Highly recommend. It's incredibly eye opening,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to focus on just a couple of

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Speaker 1: different parts of it. This whole episode isn't about Britney Spears,

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Speaker 1: but she is the perfect example of what the media

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Speaker 1: does two young women, whether they're famous or not. To

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Speaker 1: be completely honest, I was old enough to know what

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Speaker 1: kind of tumultuous time between two thousand and five and

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Speaker 1: really know how big of a deal it was that

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Speaker 1: she was just this joke to everybody. And there's this

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Speaker 1: really a poignant scene in the documentary where Brittany is

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Speaker 1: a question on the Family Feud game show and the

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Speaker 1: question is things Britney Spears has lost, and one of

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Speaker 1: them is her hair, one of them is her mind,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is her husband. And that was

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Speaker 1: a joke that the live audience was laughing at as

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Speaker 1: if Britney Spears isn't a real person. And to be

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Speaker 1: completely honest, like watching this it felt like I was

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Speaker 1: watching a Black Mirror episode. But then I remember that

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Speaker 1: this was just a couple, you know, fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: not even There's crazy moments like where this interviewer who's

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Speaker 1: why she seems to get furious when a talk show

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Speaker 1: host comes up with this subject. That's literally what the

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Speaker 1: viewers ad verbatim. It's insane, And there was just this

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Speaker 1: massive sexist like interpretation of Brittany. And yes, her songs

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Speaker 1: were sexual, her music videos are sexual. She didn't write

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Speaker 1: or direct those, which is also important to know. But

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Speaker 1: also there's nothing wrong with wanting to be sexual as

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Speaker 1: a woman and portray yourself like that. And she actually

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Speaker 1: was like a very like, well mannered, classy, beautiful, intelligent

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Speaker 1: young girl. And it's just judging a book by its cover.

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Speaker 1: It's outdated, it's boring, and it's usually inaccurate. There's crazy

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Speaker 1: moments with the paparazzi where you see them following her

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Speaker 1: and of course you're going to break at some point.

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Speaker 1: but now we have social media, which is both a

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Speaker 1: if the headline is like messy divorced Brittie cheats, but

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Speaker 1: blah blah, it's like you've probably already posted about it

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Speaker 1: and said what happened. But at the same time, like

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Speaker 1: we don't have the tabloid culture that we used to,

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Speaker 1: but we have Internet rolls and we have commenters, and

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Speaker 1: we have people with opinions, and so the interviewers and

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Speaker 1: the tabloid writers and the paparazzi saying all these terrible

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Speaker 1: things about Brittie spears they now just live in the

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Speaker 1: And I mean he's he's talked very publicly about how

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Speaker 1: everybody can be Peres Hilton. Now, everybody can be two

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Speaker 1: on a smaller scale, it's kind of how social media

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I remember this one rumor. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I this is like one of the most fucked up

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Speaker 1: And I remember getting a question on form spring that

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Speaker 1: definitely bullying, But it's also different than bullying because it's

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Speaker 1: and to that same point, it's hard to not get

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Speaker 1: And I've tried, as i've you know, gotten more followers

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