Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky
Speaker 1: Brooks was everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm Bucky Brooks and I am with Lance Zeeln and
Speaker 2: we are going take to Move.
Speaker 3: The six podcasts today and today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go through each division and we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about which teams are best position threatned the division winner
Speaker 2: based on the move that they made via the draft,
Speaker 2: free ac and all the things that they've done.
Speaker 3: Over the course of the off season. But before we
Speaker 3: get to d Lance, how you doing, my man.
Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm catching up a little bit. The wife is
Speaker 1: out of town. She ran the London Marathon and you,
Speaker 1: as you know, we talked about it. And so now
Speaker 1: me and my two boys, we went to the playoff
Speaker 1: game yesterday and saw the Rockets beat the Warriors. Got
Speaker 1: to talk to Keem Olajuan for a little bit.
Speaker 4: So life is good. We just have to clean up
Speaker 4: this house before the wife gets home.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, get to it. Hurry up and get
Speaker 3: to it because no one wants to deal with the rest.
Speaker 4: We can do.
Speaker 1: Everything, we can make it perfect and she's gonna find
Speaker 1: flaws with and so I already know.
Speaker 3: You already know.
Speaker 2: But a good thing is you're sitting on a dub
Speaker 2: fresh off the rocket is getting that impressive win against
Speaker 2: the Warriors. And there are a couple of teams in
Speaker 2: the draft that got does based on what they did
Speaker 2: over the course of the off season.
Speaker 3: So let's kind of talk about that.
Speaker 2: Last year the AFC East, the Buffalo Bills have been
Speaker 2: the team that really reigned supreme over that division. When
Speaker 2: you look at the Jets, the Dolphins, the Patriots. Of
Speaker 2: those three teams, who is the biggest threat to knock
Speaker 2: off the Buffalo Bills?
Speaker 1: You know the easy pick is going to be to
Speaker 1: say the Dolphins. But when I look at what they like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Dolphins did a lot to
Speaker 1: make themselves better right now, So let me.
Speaker 4: Say the Jets.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a surprise pick, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to say if Justin if they get the best out
Speaker 1: of Justin Fields, I think the Jets probably know who
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is.
Speaker 4: Better than the Bears did.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be more in line with
Speaker 1: running a type of offense that's best for Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: probably more run heavy, honestly, And they got guys like
Speaker 1: Mason Taylor Azeri Thomas the press corner out of Florida State.
Speaker 1: They got Malaki Moore, who I know they think he's
Speaker 1: got a chance to start right away. And of course
Speaker 1: Arman Membu, who I think steps in at right tackle.
Speaker 1: So I actually think, you know, they already had talent.
Speaker 1: To me, Bucky, they had talent on the defensive side. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they had some pieces in place. Maybe the Justin Fields
Speaker 1: moves along with this draft which has some help now players.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Jets over the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you talk about the Jets and
Speaker 2: what they've done, and you're right. I believe ag Aaron
Speaker 2: Glenn knows exactly how to utilize Justin Fields because Fields
Speaker 2: was a thorn in his side when he was a
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions. I am hoping that
Speaker 2: he finds a way to unlock the former first round because.
Speaker 3: He's a supreme, supremely talented.
Speaker 2: We just haven't seen him kind of play at his
Speaker 2: best because I'll be honest, I don't know if anyone
Speaker 2: is fully believed and really built an offense around who
Speaker 2: he is and what he brings to the table. So
Speaker 2: I like the Jets as a pick for that, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Patriots. And the reason I'm
Speaker 2: going with the Patriots is because the Mike Rabel factor.
Speaker 2: I just know the years that I've been in that
Speaker 2: division watching make Rabel take these underdog teams, these underman
Speaker 2: teams with the Tennessee Titans and completely muck up the
Speaker 2: game and find ways to win games. He to me,
Speaker 2: now has a I would say, like a more talented
Speaker 2: team that he's taken over. You talk about having a
Speaker 2: quarterback in place in Drake May and immediately surrounding him
Speaker 2: with Will Campbell, bringing in Trevon Henderson, Kyle Williams. Look,
Speaker 2: they have upgraded the personnel around him, and then you
Speaker 2: add a Stefan Diggs, all the moves that they made
Speaker 2: over the course of the offseason to bring veterans in
Speaker 2: to help that offense and defense. To me, man the Giants,
Speaker 2: I mean not the Giants, the Patriots keeping giant in
Speaker 2: that division because we've seen Mike Rable do this. I
Speaker 2: think he has enough fire prower to kind of find
Speaker 2: a way to bring the Buffalo Bills back to them,
Speaker 2: closer to them, and that gives them a chance to
Speaker 2: kind of win the division just based on what they've done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree that they you know, I guess
Speaker 1: for me it was a matter of have they done enough?
Speaker 1: Like do they have enough? There's Drake may ready. In
Speaker 1: terms of improvement, I would one hundred percent agree with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're much improved. They had a good draft.
Speaker 1: I like what they did at head coach, and there's
Speaker 1: no doubt that I think they're ready to take a step.
Speaker 1: The question is can you take a big enough step?
Speaker 1: I think realistically it's going to be hard to catch
Speaker 1: the Bills. If we're being realistic from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: one through ten, I think it's a three. We can
Speaker 1: assess that with some of the other teams, like you
Speaker 1: know in the AFC North, for example, Bucky, you have
Speaker 1: the Bengals who had Shamar Stewart early, Demetrius Knight, who
Speaker 1: can help them right away at linebacker.
Speaker 4: You had the Browns. We know what the Browns.
Speaker 1: Did, they had a very productive draft, but there's questions
Speaker 1: about their quarterback position and how that's going to pan out.
Speaker 1: How did you see the Ravens are the team to
Speaker 1: catch the Bengals, the Browns, and the Steelers. How do
Speaker 1: you see it, who's got the best shot of catching them?
Speaker 2: You know it's funny, man, because when I look at
Speaker 2: the Bengals and all the things that they've done, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, people have been unimpressed with their moves. But
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm saying that the Bengals are going
Speaker 2: to use their offense to be their best defense, and
Speaker 2: so the moves that they've made to help themselves on defense,
Speaker 2: like bringing Shamar Stewart over.
Speaker 3: Look, it's a huge boom or bus pick in my estimation.
Speaker 2: But if he pops and really explodes and becomes the
Speaker 2: pass rusher that many of us think that he could
Speaker 2: become based on his tools, man, he could be a
Speaker 2: dominant player for them. You think about petting him opposite
Speaker 2: of Trey Henderson.
Speaker 3: You gotta like that.
Speaker 2: But then I'll say this team doubling down at linebacker
Speaker 2: Demetrius Knight from South Carolina and Barrick Carter from Clemson.
Speaker 2: Barry Carter has got that people talked about being a
Speaker 2: second round pick at one point. You now have two
Speaker 2: young linebackers that can kind of find ways to get
Speaker 2: on the field, and then you kind of back that
Speaker 2: up with the running back that no one is talking
Speaker 2: about in Todds Brooks watching him at the East West
Speaker 2: Rine all week. I mean, this dude has stop start quickness, first, compact,
Speaker 2: thick frame. The Bengals to me are the team that
Speaker 2: can close ground, not necessarily because of what these guys
Speaker 2: are going to give them immediately, but because their offense
Speaker 2: is so good that these young guys playing under l
Speaker 2: Golden should be able to kind of make enough plays
Speaker 2: to help this defense get back on track.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, you have to look at
Speaker 1: this in totality. The question is who can catch, you know,
Speaker 1: as the best chance of catching him after the draft.
Speaker 4: And I think the.
Speaker 1: Steelers really help himself with Derek Harmon, Jack Sawyer, Caleb Johnson,
Speaker 1: I think they all fit. Yeah, y'all Black, I think
Speaker 1: it's a good fit in the fifth round for what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. They really upgraded their defensive line
Speaker 1: or certainly refreshed it. But you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing a quarterback over there.
Speaker 4: And until Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 1: I have to say the Bengals because as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: I love Demetrius and I I love what they did,
Speaker 1: but what they already have in place, I think is
Speaker 1: dangerous enough.
Speaker 4: So I'm with you. I'm gonna go Bengals on that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I know you're in age town. You're putting
Speaker 2: it down. The Texans are the reigning champs. C. J.
Speaker 2: Stroud and Company looked really, really good, but they did
Speaker 2: a really good job with their drafts. So this team
Speaker 2: is well positioned to win another division title. But when
Speaker 2: you look around the rest of the division, who's closed ground.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say the Colts. It's tough because
Speaker 1: I think the Titans are still pretty far away. You know,
Speaker 1: I like some things Jaguars did, and you may end
Speaker 1: up talking about that. I don't know, But I look
Speaker 1: at the Colts and the Colts have a lot of
Speaker 1: pieces on offense and on defense. The problem the Colts
Speaker 1: have is we don't know what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: their quarterback. Well, to that end, you gave Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: or or Jones Jones, you gave him Tyler Warren, and
Speaker 1: you know you've got if you take a look at
Speaker 1: that team, you know you've got You've got Pittman and Pierce,
Speaker 1: and you got Josh Downs, you got Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 4: You got a lot over there a d Mitchell. We'll
Speaker 4: see what he does in year two.
Speaker 1: Now you added a ready made tight end who can
Speaker 1: play right now, help your run blocking, help your pass catching,
Speaker 1: so you know, and then you add J T T.
Speaker 4: Tomlua Mulua. Okay, I need Mike to pronounce that point.
Speaker 3: I like that. You need Mike gam to come up
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Speaker 1: I need JT j T T J T T. I
Speaker 1: think those two guys and we can talk about the
Speaker 1: rest of it. Justin Wallly, I think helps for sure
Speaker 1: in the secondary. They need to help DJ Giddings. I
Speaker 1: think steps right into a backup running back role. But
Speaker 1: I think the Colts already had a lot of pieces.
Speaker 1: It's just that quarterback spot. It's just a really huge
Speaker 1: question mark. But I'm not sure that the Jags and
Speaker 1: Titans can make up enough ground on the Texans. Even
Speaker 1: after the draft. It may be two years before we're
Speaker 1: answering that question with those two teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny because I am going to
Speaker 2: talk about the Jags because they're so excited about the
Speaker 2: guys that they brought on board. Uh, they talk about
Speaker 2: the great intangibles that Travis Hunter brings on top of
Speaker 2: the playmaking and all that stuff. People can talk about
Speaker 2: him in Nausham in terms of how he is a
Speaker 2: thermostat guy, changes the temperature of the room when he
Speaker 2: walks in.
Speaker 3: They love that.
Speaker 2: But it's Caleb Ranshaw that they've talked about in the
Speaker 2: secondary that helps them. Plays opposite Tyson Campbell potentially could
Speaker 2: be a really good fit, but hey, I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: you a guy to watch in terms of being maybe
Speaker 2: a surprise starter, Wyatt Millim from West Virginia. They think
Speaker 2: that he has a chance to come in there and
Speaker 2: jump right into the starting lineup if he takes care
Speaker 2: of business in camp They love his scrappiness, his toughness,
Speaker 2: and for an offensive line that they're trying to change
Speaker 2: the way that they go about doing business. They think
Speaker 2: Molam is like the dirt back that they need to
Speaker 2: kind of get them to another level. And then finally,
Speaker 2: you fantasy guys keep an eye on butshall to There
Speaker 2: are a lot of people that are excited about what
Speaker 2: he could be in this offense. People will initially pegging
Speaker 2: him as a number three running back, but he might
Speaker 2: be the workhorse guy by the time it's all said
Speaker 2: and done. Coming from Virginia Tech where you saw the
Speaker 2: explosive plays. They got some stuff going and so he
Speaker 2: certainly helps that. And we've seen the Rams for years
Speaker 2: win with these lower ranked these lower round picks find
Speaker 2: ways to get those guys on the field. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Jayla McLeod right lane, six round picks, don't
Speaker 2: be surprised when you hear the name called early and
Speaker 2: often for the Jacks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it. I think the
Speaker 4: Jags really helped themselves with drafts. I thought that had
Speaker 4: a good draft that they may I mean.
Speaker 1: They took a big swing with Travis Huntery And what
Speaker 1: did you think of What did you think of Gladstone's
Speaker 1: comments after the draft where he said this draft he
Speaker 1: basically said what we did there is what is how
Speaker 1: we're going to operate. No fear is basically what he
Speaker 1: said when he talked about trading from five to two,
Speaker 1: that they're going to swing their sword and they're not
Speaker 1: going to play scared.
Speaker 4: What did you think of that?
Speaker 1: Because that was a that's an expensive move up for
Speaker 1: a guy who's less than one hundred and ninety pounds
Speaker 1: play corner and wide receiver. There's some people that looked
Speaker 1: at that kind of sideways, but I thought he had
Speaker 1: an interesting answer.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, very interesting, but you know what he is
Speaker 2: like said it the knee of less need for all
Speaker 2: those years in the Rams. Remember Lefskni is the one
Speaker 2: that coined the phrase ft and picks, and there is
Speaker 2: some truth to that because when they said f and
Speaker 2: picks and they made the trade, it helped their team
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. And so Gladstone is certainly trying
Speaker 2: to follow suit, not only in being bold but the moves,
Speaker 2: but bringing in guys who did everything in the process.
Speaker 2: Land something that was big with him was guys that
Speaker 2: participated in the Bowl Game and played in the Bowl Game,
Speaker 2: meaning the all Games. Everyone has an opportunity to opt out,
Speaker 2: but they want guys that opt in. We will see
Speaker 2: if those kind of worker bee players can kind of
Speaker 2: change the culture in the locker room. Let's go to
Speaker 2: the AFC West. Everyone talks about the Kan City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: We thought they were about to win another title. They
Speaker 2: get knocked off, but the kan City Chiefs still at
Speaker 2: the top of the division. What do you think about
Speaker 2: the rest.
Speaker 3: Of the ribbles?
Speaker 4: Well, I think the Cans that he Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, the Chiefs are gonna they're the
Speaker 1: team to beat, obviously, but when you look at when
Speaker 1: you look at the teams in terms of who are
Speaker 1: going to chase them down, I think the Broncos added
Speaker 1: a good pick in Jday Baron. He fits the third
Speaker 1: corner mold of what they needed. But I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the Chargers and I don't know how you can answer
Speaker 1: anybody but the Chargers. You added a workhorse, power thread
Speaker 1: and Omarion Hampton. You grab Trey Harris, who I think
Speaker 1: can step in to get an immediately challenge Quinton Johnson
Speaker 1: and challenge of Mike Williams for snaps. Jamari Caldwell is
Speaker 1: a very active third round defensive lineman who I think
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, is going to be able to
Speaker 1: create some disruption as a rotational defensive lineman. You know,
Speaker 1: the rest of their draft I think is just okay.
Speaker 1: But those top three, those those top eighty six picks, they.
Speaker 4: Help right away.
Speaker 1: And it's not like, I know, the last game of
Speaker 1: the year against Texans was a bad one, but it's
Speaker 1: not like the Chargers are very far away and this
Speaker 1: is only year two. You know, of the hardball way.
Speaker 1: So I think that they've got Bucky. I really think
Speaker 1: of all the divisions we'll talk about, the Chargers have
Speaker 1: the best chance to catch a division champ, the leader
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have to prove to me. And I like
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs did in the draft, but I still think,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure that Chiefs are are not
Speaker 1: maybe vulnerable finally for you know, to be overtaken. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing it with my Houston Astros and baseball. You can
Speaker 1: have a long run, but eventually guys get older, Guys leave,
Speaker 1: You start leaving, losing, losing pieces, you start getting older,
Speaker 1: and a young upstart will come up. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the Chargers this year. I think they got a
Speaker 1: great chance to knock out the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you right there, and I'm gonna tell you, Man,
Speaker 2: seeing the visual of Amario Hampton shaking hands with the coaches,
Speaker 2: including Jim Harbaugh, I knew he was big because when
Speaker 2: guys are listed at six two twenty one, man, he
Speaker 2: looks like a superhero when he's there shaking hands with
Speaker 2: all of the coaches in front office people. So I'm
Speaker 2: really impressed with what he can do, and I think
Speaker 2: he and Najia Hair gonna be a nice tandem. I
Speaker 2: would expect Campton to be the lead dog now J
Speaker 2: Harris to kind of be the compliment. But two big
Speaker 2: backs shit certainly helped him and they found a way
Speaker 2: initially to keep JK.
Speaker 3: Dollins.
Speaker 2: Will see if he stays in the pole. Trey Harris
Speaker 2: the vertical threat that they've needed. Lab McConkey is everything,
Speaker 2: but more horizontal plays than vertical plays. And then you
Speaker 2: get someone that can truly stress the top out the
Speaker 2: defense man that makes so it's such a big difference
Speaker 2: for how they want to play with Herbert. And then
Speaker 2: the last guy that I'll say that I'm really in
Speaker 2: two guys in the treat Bony Calcinard from South Carolina.
Speaker 2: When you watch his tape, man, he is all over
Speaker 2: the place, just a relentless sucker. And then the guy
Speaker 2: that you said that you didn't understand why people are
Speaker 2: sleeping on him. R. J. Mickens from Clemson, son of
Speaker 2: Ray Mickens, goes there in the sixth round. We just
Speaker 2: know how he's gonna come in.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: He is a guy who is rock solid and everything
Speaker 2: that he does, he just does it right all the time.
Speaker 2: It's not flashy, no fanfare, but he makes a lot
Speaker 2: of plays. I think he has a chance. I think
Speaker 2: he has a perfect opportunity to kind of make his
Speaker 2: name known in the charge the secondary.
Speaker 1: This could really end up being a memorable draft for
Speaker 1: the Chargers when people look back at this, because I
Speaker 1: think Mickens is way better than a six round pick.
Speaker 1: I think Branson Taylor, if he stays healthy, you tackle
Speaker 1: the guard transition in the sixth round they got from Pitt.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got some injury issues, he's got some
Speaker 1: durability issues, but he is a body mover and so
Speaker 1: if you can keep him healthy, I think he fits
Speaker 1: what Jim Harbaugh wants to do.
Speaker 4: For sure, we swing it to the NFC.
Speaker 3: Before we go, Yeah, to the NFC.
Speaker 2: Let's take a break, and when we come back, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about all of the things going on on the
Speaker 2: NFC on the other side.
Speaker 3: All right, that's what we're back. And you're excited.
Speaker 2: Man. You want to get to the NFC. You must
Speaker 2: have some stuff that you want to brew on. Which
Speaker 2: division do you want to go first? You want to
Speaker 2: go east to west? What you say, let's go Let's
Speaker 2: go east. So because you're sitting there with the Eagles.
Speaker 2: How are we going to knock off the Eagles? Who's
Speaker 2: going to knock off the Eagles?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: The Giants are a long way. You got the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: You got the Commanders. When I look at this, I
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of immediate help for the Commanders.
Speaker 1: I think they've got some guys that may need a
Speaker 1: little bit of time. You look at the Cowboys, they
Speaker 1: had nine picks. They picked up a pass rusher and
Speaker 1: easy Iraku from Boston College. They got a powerful guard
Speaker 1: with an attitude to step in for Zach Martin. They
Speaker 1: got Savon Ravel, who is going to be and I
Speaker 1: think an immediate cornerback. Three Over there in Dallas, you
Speaker 1: got Jayden Blue, who can come out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be the Cowboys. And I
Speaker 1: understand the issues the Cowboys have, but let's not act
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys don't have some pieces. The Cowboys have pieces,
Speaker 1: and I think when you look at the draft, they
Speaker 1: had a pretty they had a fairly impactful draft. They've
Speaker 1: got some guys they added that I think either fit
Speaker 1: holes or have some impact potential, including Jade and Blue
Speaker 1: from Texas.
Speaker 4: Who they got in the fifth round.
Speaker 2: Look, man, the Cowboys has kind of done it in
Speaker 2: a different way in terms of like kind of old
Speaker 2: school principles, right Like we've kind of grown a customed
Speaker 2: to seeing this team kind of do it with flash
Speaker 2: and phezazz, and they kind of took a meat and
Speaker 2: potatoes approach to the guys that they got.
Speaker 3: I love what they were able to do.
Speaker 2: First pick, like Booker, gives them an identity, gives them
Speaker 2: an attitude, gives them the physicality that they need.
Speaker 3: And then look man.
Speaker 2: Desiroku coming off the edge, and I just had these
Speaker 2: visions of him playing two man games with Michael.
Speaker 3: Parson's really good picks for this team and where they are.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to the New York Giants. And the
Speaker 3: reason I'm going with the Giants.
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna talk about the quarterback, and we can get
Speaker 2: to the quarterback, but when I look at what they're
Speaker 2: doing on defense first bringing in Abdul Carter, another pass
Speaker 2: rusher that can come off the edge but can play
Speaker 2: linebacker for them. So now you have Kavon Thibadeau, Brian Burns,
Speaker 2: you have Dexter Lawrence, you have Abdul Carter, in the
Speaker 2: starting lineup man, that is a lot to deal with
Speaker 2: in one on one blocking situations. You add another defensive
Speaker 2: tackle and Darius Alexander to put alongside dex to Lawrence,
Speaker 2: two big men who had nibbled Dancing Bears heavy handed.
Speaker 3: They love the violence.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that hevn kind of watched them
Speaker 2: get down. This team is pretty good in terms of
Speaker 2: like their defense and then finding the quarterback that they
Speaker 2: believe is the guy that can take them to the
Speaker 2: next level. These guys played in Buffalo with Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: They love what Josh Allen was able to do, not
Speaker 2: only on the field, but the intangibles that he added
Speaker 2: to the locker room. And Jackson Dark they believe they're
Speaker 2: getting someone similar and we will see if their games
Speaker 2: are similar and translate. But they will give Jackson are
Speaker 2: every opportunity to play like he played at Old Miss
Speaker 2: And so if everyone can get on board, maybe this
Speaker 2: team can not only get up off the map, but
Speaker 2: maybe they can be a viable playoff contender this season.
Speaker 4: AFC North I'm looking at I mean NFC North. You
Speaker 4: know the Lions are the.
Speaker 1: Lions or the defending champs. They lost both of their
Speaker 1: both their coordinators. Their draft I think was kind of average,
Speaker 1: was very average. They really addressed the trenches quite a bit,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure it's going to be There's a
Speaker 1: lot of impact in there right off the bat. And
Speaker 1: you know, the division was kind of up for grabs
Speaker 1: last year with the Packers at one point, Packers and Vikings,
Speaker 1: but they fell off and the Lion, you know, stayed steady.
Speaker 1: This may surprise some people a little bit, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4: I like what the Packers did.
Speaker 1: I like what the Vikings did, but the Bears added
Speaker 1: Colston Loveland and Luther Burden and Ozzie Trapillo. I think
Speaker 1: Trapillo will probably start off as a swing tackle, but
Speaker 1: may have a chance. You know, Chicago's gonna have to
Speaker 1: see if he can play left tackle. If he can
Speaker 1: play left tackle, that gets interesting in the battle over
Speaker 1: there on the left side. But I think Shamar Turner
Speaker 1: in the second round, Luther Burden in the second round,
Speaker 1: and Colston Loveland in the first round immediate helps to
Speaker 1: that team. They've got some rush already, they got some
Speaker 1: dudes in the secondary. They they upgraded their offensive line
Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams is in year two and they got
Speaker 1: the most creative play call in all the football who's
Speaker 1: now the head coach. I think the Bears are in
Speaker 1: a worse the first potential scenario in the NFC North.
Speaker 1: I think they got that shot.
Speaker 2: Okay, Man, I'm gonna go to the Green Bay Packs
Speaker 2: and then look, gopak go is ringing in my ears,
Speaker 2: maybe because the draft was on location, but I'm looking
Speaker 2: at them, and they take Matthew Golden and then come
Speaker 2: back and take save On Williams from TCU and Golden,
Speaker 2: you get a polished receiver who can be a hybrid
Speaker 2: wide receiver one or wide receiver two that you can
Speaker 2: put out there and he is going to make plays
Speaker 2: as a route runner and playmaker. And Savian Williams you
Speaker 2: just got to get the ball and get out the
Speaker 2: way type player.
Speaker 3: Some wild say maybe is Kodero Patterson.
Speaker 2: Maybe he can give you something that is different than
Speaker 2: being your normal traditional receiver and watching him execute the
Speaker 2: wildcat for the horn Frogs and watching him touch the
Speaker 2: ball a bunch of different ways and kind of figure
Speaker 2: it out. Man, there has to be a role that
Speaker 2: he can play. And I'm willing the bank that Matt
Speaker 2: Leffleuy is gonna figure out a way to use a
Speaker 2: six four to two d and twenty two pounds that
Speaker 2: can do it in a variety of ways. And then
Speaker 2: the last one that will kind of stand out to
Speaker 2: me is man big Boy from Texas Baron Surreal being
Speaker 2: able to kind of come and add to what they
Speaker 2: already had, which is a collection of playmakers on the edges.
Speaker 2: He is going to be a guy that's given an
Speaker 2: opportunity to develop, but man if it works for him.
Speaker 2: And also Colin Oliver from Oklahoma State. Remember, man, this
Speaker 2: dude had a lot of production at one point throughout
Speaker 2: his career. I just know that when the packers kind
Speaker 2: of invest in these guys, they're looking at guys who
Speaker 2: are productive and they're gonna give them every opportunity first
Speaker 2: to earn them on special teams and then to make
Speaker 2: plays as part of the rotation.
Speaker 4: I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1: In the NFC South, the raging champs are the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks. Can anyone catch it?
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone called him, because man, I
Speaker 2: just love what they were able to do on the draft.
Speaker 2: But we'll go and let's talk about the new Orleans
Speaker 2: Saints and what they were to do. And look, it's
Speaker 2: risky in a way in terms of what they did first,
Speaker 2: Calvin Banks taking him at nine, first round, ninth. Overall,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that were talking about
Speaker 2: him late kind of being in the process as a
Speaker 2: top ten player. But for them to take him and say, hey,
Speaker 2: we got a true left tackle, a guy that can
Speaker 2: play and go right away. When you look at the tape,
Speaker 2: obviously you see the talent and those things. You just
Speaker 2: don't see the consistent dominance or violence that maybe.
Speaker 3: You want to see.
Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that he is a really, really
Speaker 2: good player. But look, I think this draft hinges on
Speaker 2: what Tyler Shutt is able to do as a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Second round pick, seven year guy Oregon, Texas Tech Louisville,
Speaker 2: showed up in Louisville and showed out has talent when
Speaker 2: you see him walking around, he's the prototype interviewed will
Speaker 2: all those things. The big thing that makes him the
Speaker 2: X factor is can he play to his potential. If
Speaker 2: he plays to his potential, the New Orleans Saints are
Speaker 2: right up there and they're going to be marching in.
Speaker 2: But if not, man, they're gonna be back in the
Speaker 2: world looking for another quarterback in the next couple years.
Speaker 2: So a lot of their success hinges on Tyler shit
Speaker 2: being able to play early and being able to play
Speaker 2: well in a league that typically east up quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: throws them out.
Speaker 1: Because of what you just said, that's why I can't
Speaker 1: go with the Saints. I gotta go with the Falcons.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We know the Falcons have Jon Robinson, dynamic, dynamic tight
Speaker 1: running back, Kyle Pitts. I don't even know what Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts is right now. I mean, we keep waiting for
Speaker 1: cal Pits. So I can't just sit here and say
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. But well, I mean in theory, Kyle Pitts. Uh,
Speaker 1: they got some wide receivers, they've got some decent offensive linemen,
Speaker 1: they needed help on defense, And to me, you got
Speaker 1: Jalen Walker and James Pierce, who are two of the
Speaker 1: most high impact rushers from the SEC that you're gonna find.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you got two ballhawks,
Speaker 1: Xavier Watson Billy Bowman. I get the Xavier Watson has
Speaker 1: average speed, Billy Bowman's undersize, but these dudes are straight ballhawks.
Speaker 1: Tremendous instincts, the ability to flip the field. I just
Speaker 1: think when you look at the first four picks and
Speaker 1: you say Walker, Pierce, Wattson Bowman, all four of those
Speaker 1: guys can have an impact in their rookie year. Now
Speaker 1: we go to quarterback. Is this draft going to be
Speaker 1: what turns it? No, it's gonna be Michael Pennicks playing well.
Speaker 1: So obviously a lot rests on Michael Pennix. But you know,
Speaker 1: it feels like the NFC South is always a little
Speaker 1: bit tenuous. You're always an injury away from a team
Speaker 1: just completely tumbling. I think the Falcons are a team
Speaker 1: who really helped themselves in the draft, and I think
Speaker 1: by from the spirit of just who helped themselves the
Speaker 1: most from the draft that can beat the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 1: I would say it's definitely the Falcons because I you know,
Speaker 1: I do have some faith that Michael Pennis can be
Speaker 1: good enough.
Speaker 4: When you have a running back like Bjon Robinson.
Speaker 3: Look, he certainly can be good enough.
Speaker 2: We'll see if they finally can get it together, because
Speaker 2: this is a team that will always talk about man
Speaker 2: the greatest that never was.
Speaker 3: If they're not able to get it together, let's go
Speaker 3: to the West.
Speaker 2: Everyone understands what the Rams are and how they have
Speaker 2: really been able to surprise people kind of, I guess.
Speaker 3: Orchestrate their own takeover. But who do you like?
Speaker 2: Cardinals, Seahawks, forty nine ers? Which teams do you believe
Speaker 2: have really closed the gaps on the Rams?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: It's really tough.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna you kind of have to use what's
Speaker 1: already on the roster. I like the draft the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks had, but I don't know that I'm ready to.
Speaker 1: You know, you got brand new wide receivers over there,
Speaker 1: including Cooper cup Who's who's an older player. We don't
Speaker 1: know what he has left. I don't know that the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals had some high ceiling, low floor picks in
Speaker 1: their first three, so I got to go forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: I think by default you've got pieces that have already
Speaker 1: been in place. You really address the defensive front. Nick
Speaker 1: Martin is a tremendous athlete with some rush, and he
Speaker 1: with the third pick, the second pick out for Collins.
Speaker 1: I think if they get his weight under control, he
Speaker 1: looks like a forty nine er defensive lineman, as does
Speaker 1: mikel Williams who can play outside as a stand up rusher.
Speaker 1: So you know you got you got a very very
Speaker 1: competitive slot corner and up in stout with the one
Speaker 1: hundred pick of the draft, which most slots his size
Speaker 1: do not get drafted. There, that should tell you what
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers think of him. To draft a
Speaker 1: five foot nine slot corner with you know who weighs
Speaker 1: less than one hundred and ninety pounds, to draft him
Speaker 1: at one hundred, they like him a lot. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I think Jordan James the running back in
Speaker 1: the fifth round and Marcus Siegel the safety in the
Speaker 1: fifth round, don't sleep on these guys. Siegull has really
Speaker 1: incredible explosiveness and speed. But you know, Jordan James running
Speaker 1: back from Morgan. All they do is find running backs
Speaker 1: just to come up and have big Jordan Mason we
Speaker 1: saw with him a couple of years ago. Now we
Speaker 1: got Jordan James Morgan, who's a one cutback who I
Speaker 1: think can step in and have an immediate impact as
Speaker 1: the second running back over there with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go forty nine ers. They already have
Speaker 4: pieces in place.
Speaker 1: I like what they did with the draft, they really
Speaker 1: attack their defense with the first one hundred picks. Frankly
Speaker 1: the first one hundred and thirteen picks because CJ. West
Speaker 1: was in the fourth round. So I'm going to the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers in that division.
Speaker 2: Look, man, I can't knock the Wholsome I did the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and what they've been able to do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Arizona Cardinals. And the only reason
Speaker 3: I'm going to Aaron Zone Corners.
Speaker 2: I think Minic Austin Ford and Jonathan Gannon are really
Speaker 2: cooking with gas when it comes to rebuilding this team.
Speaker 2: They have a clear plan for what they want to do.
Speaker 2: I like what Walter Nolan provides them as an interior
Speaker 2: disruptive playmaker, someone who has the ability to really get
Speaker 2: into cracks and make things happen as a run defender
Speaker 2: and pass rusher. Love that, And then I love the
Speaker 2: fact that they just kept shopping in the big ten.
Speaker 2: I mean, we just rattled off Will Johnson come and
Speaker 2: giving them a nice corner.
Speaker 3: On the other side of.
Speaker 2: The guy who was really viewed as a top fifteen
Speaker 2: player but now he lands in the second round, Jordan
Speaker 2: Birch energize the Bunny coming off the edge. Oregon gives
Speaker 2: them something, Cody Simon, who is a seaball kitball defender,
Speaker 2: all those things, and then I would say, kind of
Speaker 2: finish it off with a guy like Denzel Burke, someone
Speaker 2: that can kind of play multiple spots in the back
Speaker 2: end in terms of that subpack his defender. I love him, man.
Speaker 2: I just think it is solid. They know exactly who
Speaker 2: they are. They're leaning into what I would call a smart,
Speaker 2: tough football player as they're trying to change the dynamics
Speaker 2: of the locker room. I think Austin Ford and Gannon
Speaker 2: have really knocked it out the part. This is a
Speaker 2: really solid draft in my opinion in Arizona.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I do like you know, like I said, high ceiling,
Speaker 1: low floor, but the ceiling is really high for the
Speaker 1: three guys when they took in the first three picks.
Speaker 1: So and I did not think Gannon, I'll admit it,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't judge the book by the cover.
Speaker 1: I think people did that with Dan Campbell at the
Speaker 1: introductory and everyone saw the you know, the the Jonathan Gannon,
Speaker 1: the kind of the weird little thing that he was
Speaker 1: doing with Luda Baker and everyone thought, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's way over his head.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: That team has played played hard. Gannon's done a great
Speaker 1: job over there.
Speaker 3: He really has lance.
Speaker 2: He's one of the things that I've really been surprised
Speaker 2: in turn of like how they've been able to kind
Speaker 2: of get down and what they've been able to do.
Speaker 2: Because I'm honest with you, man, I didn't see it
Speaker 2: like that. I didn't think that he would have like
Speaker 2: that kind of impact on them. But man, he's been
Speaker 2: He's been terrific. Man, He's been really good for them.
Speaker 2: He's kind of figured out a way to like make
Speaker 2: it happen. So I'm gonna give him as props. I mean,
Speaker 2: I did not see him being a guy that I'm
Speaker 2: eventually thinking it can be like a high level coach,
Speaker 2: a coach that we revere and really celebrate. But he's
Speaker 2: done a really good job and this team is positioned
Speaker 2: to challenge the teams at the top of the division.
Speaker 4: I would agree with you, well, that's a rap coach.
Speaker 2: That's a rap the rap last we went through, we
Speaker 2: went through it so quickly. I appreciate you stepping in
Speaker 2: for DJ. Look, I got to say this personally, I
Speaker 2: appreciate all the hard work that you did throughout the
Speaker 2: process doing the stuff that we did over the course
Speaker 2: of the weekend, covering every pick, all two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty seven of the picks. You've been able to drop
Speaker 2: nuggets on all of them because you did four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty profile for NFL dot com.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 2: You should be applauded and celebrated. And so hopefully when
Speaker 2: the old lady gets back from the stuff, should take
Speaker 2: you out to dinner and make sure she appreciates you.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like no one appreciates it, appreciates
Speaker 1: me in this house. I mean, I got to wait
Speaker 1: for my daughter to get back for somebody to show
Speaker 1: me some love my dog.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: And Bucky bro I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: But that's right, that's right, that's right. Well until next time,
Speaker 3: how Bucky Brook? That was landsay. This is move to sticks.
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