1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Brooks was everybody. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: I'm Bucky Brooks and I am with Lance Zeeln and 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: we are going take to Move. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: The six podcasts today and today. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna go through each division and we're gonna talk 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: about which teams are best position threatned the division winner 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: based on the move that they made via the draft, 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: free ac and all the things that they've done. 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: Over the course of the off season. But before we 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: get to d Lance, how you doing, my man. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm good. 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm catching up a little bit. The wife is 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: out of town. She ran the London Marathon and you, 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: as you know, we talked about it. And so now 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: me and my two boys, we went to the playoff 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: game yesterday and saw the Rockets beat the Warriors. Got 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: to talk to Keem Olajuan for a little bit. 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: So life is good. We just have to clean up 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: this house before the wife gets home. 21 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, get to it. Hurry up and get 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: to it because no one wants to deal with the rest. 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: We can do. 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Everything, we can make it perfect and she's gonna find 25 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: flaws with and so I already know. 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: You already know. 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: But a good thing is you're sitting on a dub 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: fresh off the rocket is getting that impressive win against 29 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: the Warriors. And there are a couple of teams in 30 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: the draft that got does based on what they did 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: over the course of the off season. 32 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: So let's kind of talk about that. 33 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: Last year the AFC East, the Buffalo Bills have been 34 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: the team that really reigned supreme over that division. When 35 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: you look at the Jets, the Dolphins, the Patriots. Of 36 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: those three teams, who is the biggest threat to knock 37 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: off the Buffalo Bills? 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: You know the easy pick is going to be to 39 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: say the Dolphins. But when I look at what they like, 40 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: I don't know that the Dolphins did a lot to 41 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: make themselves better right now, So let me. 42 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: Say the Jets. 43 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a surprise pick, and I'm going 44 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: to say if Justin if they get the best out 45 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: of Justin Fields, I think the Jets probably know who 46 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is. 47 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: Better than the Bears did. 48 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be more in line with 49 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: running a type of offense that's best for Justin Fields, 50 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: probably more run heavy, honestly, And they got guys like 51 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: Mason Taylor Azeri Thomas the press corner out of Florida State. 52 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: They got Malaki Moore, who I know they think he's 53 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: got a chance to start right away. And of course 54 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Arman Membu, who I think steps in at right tackle. 55 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: So I actually think, you know, they already had talent. 56 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: To me, Bucky, they had talent on the defensive side. Anyway, 57 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: they had some pieces in place. Maybe the Justin Fields 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: moves along with this draft which has some help now players. 59 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the Jets over the Dolphins. 60 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you talk about the Jets and 61 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: what they've done, and you're right. I believe ag Aaron 62 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: Glenn knows exactly how to utilize Justin Fields because Fields 63 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: was a thorn in his side when he was a 64 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions. I am hoping that 65 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: he finds a way to unlock the former first round because. 66 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 3: He's a supreme, supremely talented. 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: We just haven't seen him kind of play at his 68 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: best because I'll be honest, I don't know if anyone 69 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: is fully believed and really built an offense around who 70 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: he is and what he brings to the table. So 71 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: I like the Jets as a pick for that, but 72 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Patriots. And the reason I'm 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: going with the Patriots is because the Mike Rabel factor. 74 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: I just know the years that I've been in that 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: division watching make Rabel take these underdog teams, these underman 76 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: teams with the Tennessee Titans and completely muck up the 77 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: game and find ways to win games. He to me, 78 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: now has a I would say, like a more talented 79 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: team that he's taken over. You talk about having a 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: quarterback in place in Drake May and immediately surrounding him 81 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: with Will Campbell, bringing in Trevon Henderson, Kyle Williams. Look, 82 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: they have upgraded the personnel around him, and then you 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: add a Stefan Diggs, all the moves that they made 84 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: over the course of the offseason to bring veterans in 85 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: to help that offense and defense. To me, man the Giants, 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean not the Giants, the Patriots keeping giant in 87 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: that division because we've seen Mike Rable do this. I 88 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: think he has enough fire prower to kind of find 89 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: a way to bring the Buffalo Bills back to them, 90 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: closer to them, and that gives them a chance to 91 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: kind of win the division just based on what they've done. 92 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree that they you know, I guess 93 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: for me it was a matter of have they done enough? 94 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Like do they have enough? There's Drake may ready. In 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: terms of improvement, I would one hundred percent agree with you. 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: I mean, they're much improved. They had a good draft. 97 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: I like what they did at head coach, and there's 98 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: no doubt that I think they're ready to take a step. 99 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: The question is can you take a big enough step? 100 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I think realistically it's going to be hard to catch 101 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the Bills. If we're being realistic from the standpoint of 102 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: one through ten, I think it's a three. We can 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: assess that with some of the other teams, like you 104 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: know in the AFC North, for example, Bucky, you have 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals who had Shamar Stewart early, Demetrius Knight, who 106 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: can help them right away at linebacker. 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: You had the Browns. We know what the Browns. 108 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: Did, they had a very productive draft, but there's questions 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: about their quarterback position and how that's going to pan out. 110 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: How did you see the Ravens are the team to 111 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: catch the Bengals, the Browns, and the Steelers. How do 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you see it, who's got the best shot of catching them? 113 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: You know it's funny, man, because when I look at 114 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals and all the things that they've done, Like 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, people have been unimpressed with their moves. But 116 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm saying that the Bengals are going 117 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: to use their offense to be their best defense, and 118 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: so the moves that they've made to help themselves on defense, 119 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: like bringing Shamar Stewart over. 120 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: Look, it's a huge boom or bus pick in my estimation. 121 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: But if he pops and really explodes and becomes the 122 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: pass rusher that many of us think that he could 123 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: become based on his tools, man, he could be a 124 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: dominant player for them. You think about petting him opposite 125 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: of Trey Henderson. 126 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: You gotta like that. 127 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: But then I'll say this team doubling down at linebacker 128 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: Demetrius Knight from South Carolina and Barrick Carter from Clemson. 129 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Barry Carter has got that people talked about being a 130 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: second round pick at one point. You now have two 131 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: young linebackers that can kind of find ways to get 132 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: on the field, and then you kind of back that 133 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: up with the running back that no one is talking 134 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: about in Todds Brooks watching him at the East West 135 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Rine all week. I mean, this dude has stop start quickness, first, compact, 136 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: thick frame. The Bengals to me are the team that 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: can close ground, not necessarily because of what these guys 138 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: are going to give them immediately, but because their offense 139 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: is so good that these young guys playing under l 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Golden should be able to kind of make enough plays 141 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: to help this defense get back on track. 142 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 143 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: I think that you know, you have to look at 144 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: this in totality. The question is who can catch, you know, 145 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: as the best chance of catching him after the draft. 146 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: And I think the. 147 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Steelers really help himself with Derek Harmon, Jack Sawyer, Caleb Johnson, 148 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: I think they all fit. Yeah, y'all Black, I think 149 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: it's a good fit in the fifth round for what 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. They really upgraded their defensive line 151 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: or certainly refreshed it. But you know, I don't know 152 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing a quarterback over there. 153 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: And until Aaron Rodgers. 154 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard. 155 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: I have to say the Bengals because as you mentioned, 156 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: I love Demetrius and I I love what they did, 157 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: but what they already have in place, I think is 158 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: dangerous enough. 159 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: So I'm with you. I'm gonna go Bengals on that one. 160 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So I know you're in age town. You're putting 161 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: it down. The Texans are the reigning champs. C. J. 162 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: Stroud and Company looked really, really good, but they did 163 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: a really good job with their drafts. So this team 164 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: is well positioned to win another division title. But when 165 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: you look around the rest of the division, who's closed ground. 166 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say the Colts. It's tough because 167 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: I think the Titans are still pretty far away. You know, 168 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I like some things Jaguars did, and you may end 169 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: up talking about that. I don't know, But I look 170 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: at the Colts and the Colts have a lot of 171 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: pieces on offense and on defense. The problem the Colts 172 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: have is we don't know what's going to happen with 173 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: their quarterback. Well, to that end, you gave Anthony Richardson 174 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: or or Jones Jones, you gave him Tyler Warren, and 175 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: you know you've got if you take a look at 176 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that team, you know you've got You've got Pittman and Pierce, 177 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: and you got Josh Downs, you got Jonathan Taylor. 178 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: You got a lot over there a d Mitchell. We'll 179 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: see what he does in year two. 180 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Now you added a ready made tight end who can 181 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: play right now, help your run blocking, help your pass catching, 182 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: so you know, and then you add J T T. 183 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: Tomlua Mulua. Okay, I need Mike to pronounce that point. 184 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: I like that. You need Mike gam to come up 185 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: in come. 186 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I need JT j T T J T T. I 187 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: think those two guys and we can talk about the 188 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: rest of it. Justin Wallly, I think helps for sure 189 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: in the secondary. They need to help DJ Giddings. I 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: think steps right into a backup running back role. But 191 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: I think the Colts already had a lot of pieces. 192 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: It's just that quarterback spot. It's just a really huge 193 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: question mark. But I'm not sure that the Jags and 194 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Titans can make up enough ground on the Texans. Even 195 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: after the draft. It may be two years before we're 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: answering that question with those two teams. 197 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny because I am going to 198 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: talk about the Jags because they're so excited about the 199 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: guys that they brought on board. Uh, they talk about 200 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: the great intangibles that Travis Hunter brings on top of 201 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: the playmaking and all that stuff. People can talk about 202 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: him in Nausham in terms of how he is a 203 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: thermostat guy, changes the temperature of the room when he 204 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: walks in. 205 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: They love that. 206 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: But it's Caleb Ranshaw that they've talked about in the 207 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: secondary that helps them. Plays opposite Tyson Campbell potentially could 208 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: be a really good fit, but hey, I'm gonna give 209 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: you a guy to watch in terms of being maybe 210 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: a surprise starter, Wyatt Millim from West Virginia. They think 211 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: that he has a chance to come in there and 212 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: jump right into the starting lineup if he takes care 213 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: of business in camp They love his scrappiness, his toughness, 214 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: and for an offensive line that they're trying to change 215 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: the way that they go about doing business. They think 216 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: Molam is like the dirt back that they need to 217 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: kind of get them to another level. And then finally, 218 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: you fantasy guys keep an eye on butshall to There 219 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: are a lot of people that are excited about what 220 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: he could be in this offense. People will initially pegging 221 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: him as a number three running back, but he might 222 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: be the workhorse guy by the time it's all said 223 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: and done. Coming from Virginia Tech where you saw the 224 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: explosive plays. They got some stuff going and so he 225 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: certainly helps that. And we've seen the Rams for years 226 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: win with these lower ranked these lower round picks find 227 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: ways to get those guys on the field. That's why 228 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Jayla McLeod right lane, six round picks, don't 229 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: be surprised when you hear the name called early and 230 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: often for the Jacks. 231 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I like it. I think the 232 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: Jags really helped themselves with drafts. I thought that had 233 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: a good draft that they may I mean. 234 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: They took a big swing with Travis Huntery And what 235 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: did you think of What did you think of Gladstone's 236 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: comments after the draft where he said this draft he 237 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: basically said what we did there is what is how 238 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: we're going to operate. No fear is basically what he 239 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: said when he talked about trading from five to two, 240 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: that they're going to swing their sword and they're not 241 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: going to play scared. 242 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: What did you think of that? 243 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Because that was a that's an expensive move up for 244 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: a guy who's less than one hundred and ninety pounds 245 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: play corner and wide receiver. There's some people that looked 246 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: at that kind of sideways, but I thought he had 247 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: an interesting answer. 248 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, very interesting, but you know what he is 249 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: like said it the knee of less need for all 250 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: those years in the Rams. Remember Lefskni is the one 251 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: that coined the phrase ft and picks, and there is 252 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: some truth to that because when they said f and 253 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: picks and they made the trade, it helped their team 254 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. And so Gladstone is certainly trying 255 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: to follow suit, not only in being bold but the moves, 256 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: but bringing in guys who did everything in the process. 257 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: Land something that was big with him was guys that 258 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: participated in the Bowl Game and played in the Bowl Game, 259 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: meaning the all Games. Everyone has an opportunity to opt out, 260 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: but they want guys that opt in. We will see 261 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: if those kind of worker bee players can kind of 262 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: change the culture in the locker room. Let's go to 263 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: the AFC West. Everyone talks about the Kan City Chiefs. 264 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: We thought they were about to win another title. They 265 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: get knocked off, but the kan City Chiefs still at 266 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: the top of the division. What do you think about 267 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: the rest. 268 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: Of the ribbles? 269 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: Well, I think the Cans that he Chiefs. 270 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean to me, the Chiefs are gonna they're the 271 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: team to beat, obviously, but when you look at when 272 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: you look at the teams in terms of who are 273 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: going to chase them down, I think the Broncos added 274 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: a good pick in Jday Baron. He fits the third 275 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: corner mold of what they needed. But I'm looking at 276 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers and I don't know how you can answer 277 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: anybody but the Chargers. You added a workhorse, power thread 278 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and Omarion Hampton. You grab Trey Harris, who I think 279 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: can step in to get an immediately challenge Quinton Johnson 280 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: and challenge of Mike Williams for snaps. Jamari Caldwell is 281 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: a very active third round defensive lineman who I think 282 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, is going to be able to 283 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: create some disruption as a rotational defensive lineman. You know, 284 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: the rest of their draft I think is just okay. 285 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: But those top three, those those top eighty six picks, they. 286 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 4: Help right away. 287 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: And it's not like, I know, the last game of 288 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: the year against Texans was a bad one, but it's 289 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: not like the Chargers are very far away and this 290 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: is only year two. You know, of the hardball way. 291 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: So I think that they've got Bucky. I really think 292 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: of all the divisions we'll talk about, the Chargers have 293 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: the best chance to catch a division champ, the leader 294 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have to prove to me. And I like 295 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: what the Chiefs did in the draft, but I still think, 296 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure that Chiefs are are not 297 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: maybe vulnerable finally for you know, to be overtaken. I'm 298 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: seeing it with my Houston Astros and baseball. You can 299 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: have a long run, but eventually guys get older, Guys leave, 300 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: You start leaving, losing, losing pieces, you start getting older, 301 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and a young upstart will come up. And I think 302 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: that's the Chargers this year. I think they got a 303 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: great chance to knock out the Chiefs. 304 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you right there, and I'm gonna tell you, Man, 305 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: seeing the visual of Amario Hampton shaking hands with the coaches, 306 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: including Jim Harbaugh, I knew he was big because when 307 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: guys are listed at six two twenty one, man, he 308 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: looks like a superhero when he's there shaking hands with 309 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: all of the coaches in front office people. So I'm 310 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: really impressed with what he can do, and I think 311 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: he and Najia Hair gonna be a nice tandem. I 312 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: would expect Campton to be the lead dog now J 313 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: Harris to kind of be the compliment. But two big 314 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: backs shit certainly helped him and they found a way 315 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: initially to keep JK. 316 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: Dollins. 317 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: Will see if he stays in the pole. Trey Harris 318 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: the vertical threat that they've needed. Lab McConkey is everything, 319 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: but more horizontal plays than vertical plays. And then you 320 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: get someone that can truly stress the top out the 321 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: defense man that makes so it's such a big difference 322 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: for how they want to play with Herbert. And then 323 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: the last guy that I'll say that I'm really in 324 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: two guys in the treat Bony Calcinard from South Carolina. 325 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: When you watch his tape, man, he is all over 326 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: the place, just a relentless sucker. And then the guy 327 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: that you said that you didn't understand why people are 328 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: sleeping on him. R. J. Mickens from Clemson, son of 329 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: Ray Mickens, goes there in the sixth round. We just 330 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: know how he's gonna come in. 331 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: Man. 332 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: He is a guy who is rock solid and everything 333 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: that he does, he just does it right all the time. 334 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: It's not flashy, no fanfare, but he makes a lot 335 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: of plays. I think he has a chance. I think 336 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: he has a perfect opportunity to kind of make his 337 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: name known in the charge the secondary. 338 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: This could really end up being a memorable draft for 339 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers when people look back at this, because I 340 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: think Mickens is way better than a six round pick. 341 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Branson Taylor, if he stays healthy, you tackle 342 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: the guard transition in the sixth round they got from Pitt. 343 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, he's got some injury issues, he's got some 344 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: durability issues, but he is a body mover and so 345 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: if you can keep him healthy, I think he fits 346 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: what Jim Harbaugh wants to do. 347 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: For sure, we swing it to the NFC. 348 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: Before we go, Yeah, to the NFC. 349 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: Let's take a break, and when we come back, we'll 350 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: talk about all of the things going on on the 351 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: NFC on the other side. 352 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: All right, that's what we're back. And you're excited. 353 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Man. You want to get to the NFC. You must 354 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: have some stuff that you want to brew on. Which 355 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: division do you want to go first? You want to 356 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: go east to west? What you say, let's go Let's 357 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: go east. So because you're sitting there with the Eagles. 358 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: How are we going to knock off the Eagles? Who's 359 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: going to knock off the Eagles? 360 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: Is? 361 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: You know? 362 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: The Giants are a long way. You got the Cowboys, 363 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: You got the Commanders. When I look at this, I 364 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of immediate help for the Commanders. 365 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: I think they've got some guys that may need a 366 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: little bit of time. You look at the Cowboys, they 367 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: had nine picks. They picked up a pass rusher and 368 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: easy Iraku from Boston College. They got a powerful guard 369 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: with an attitude to step in for Zach Martin. They 370 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: got Savon Ravel, who is going to be and I 371 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: think an immediate cornerback. Three Over there in Dallas, you 372 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: got Jayden Blue, who can come out of the backfield. 373 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I think it's got to be the Cowboys. And I 374 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: understand the issues the Cowboys have, but let's not act 375 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys don't have some pieces. The Cowboys have pieces, 376 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: and I think when you look at the draft, they 377 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: had a pretty they had a fairly impactful draft. They've 378 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: got some guys they added that I think either fit 379 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: holes or have some impact potential, including Jade and Blue 380 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: from Texas. 381 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: Who they got in the fifth round. 382 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: Look, man, the Cowboys has kind of done it in 383 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: a different way in terms of like kind of old 384 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: school principles, right Like we've kind of grown a customed 385 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: to seeing this team kind of do it with flash 386 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: and phezazz, and they kind of took a meat and 387 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: potatoes approach to the guys that they got. 388 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 3: I love what they were able to do. 389 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: First pick, like Booker, gives them an identity, gives them 390 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: an attitude, gives them the physicality that they need. 391 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: And then look man. 392 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Desiroku coming off the edge, and I just had these 393 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: visions of him playing two man games with Michael. 394 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: Parson's really good picks for this team and where they are. 395 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: But I'm going to the New York Giants. And the 396 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: reason I'm going with the Giants. 397 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna talk about the quarterback, and we can get 398 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: to the quarterback, but when I look at what they're 399 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: doing on defense first bringing in Abdul Carter, another pass 400 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: rusher that can come off the edge but can play 401 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: linebacker for them. So now you have Kavon Thibadeau, Brian Burns, 402 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: you have Dexter Lawrence, you have Abdul Carter, in the 403 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: starting lineup man, that is a lot to deal with 404 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: in one on one blocking situations. You add another defensive 405 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: tackle and Darius Alexander to put alongside dex to Lawrence, 406 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: two big men who had nibbled Dancing Bears heavy handed. 407 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: They love the violence. 408 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: I can tell you that hevn kind of watched them 409 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: get down. This team is pretty good in terms of 410 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: like their defense and then finding the quarterback that they 411 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: believe is the guy that can take them to the 412 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: next level. These guys played in Buffalo with Josh Allen. 413 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: They love what Josh Allen was able to do, not 414 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: only on the field, but the intangibles that he added 415 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: to the locker room. And Jackson Dark they believe they're 416 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: getting someone similar and we will see if their games 417 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: are similar and translate. But they will give Jackson are 418 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: every opportunity to play like he played at Old Miss 419 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: And so if everyone can get on board, maybe this 420 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: team can not only get up off the map, but 421 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: maybe they can be a viable playoff contender this season. 422 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 4: AFC North I'm looking at I mean NFC North. You 423 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: know the Lions are the. 424 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Lions or the defending champs. They lost both of their 425 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: both their coordinators. Their draft I think was kind of average, 426 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: was very average. They really addressed the trenches quite a bit, 427 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure it's going to be There's a 428 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: lot of impact in there right off the bat. And 429 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, the division was kind of up for grabs 430 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: last year with the Packers at one point, Packers and Vikings, 431 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: but they fell off and the Lion, you know, stayed steady. 432 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: This may surprise some people a little bit, but I'm 433 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna go with Chicago Bears. 434 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: I like what the Packers did. 435 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: I like what the Vikings did, but the Bears added 436 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Colston Loveland and Luther Burden and Ozzie Trapillo. I think 437 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: Trapillo will probably start off as a swing tackle, but 438 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: may have a chance. You know, Chicago's gonna have to 439 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: see if he can play left tackle. If he can 440 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: play left tackle, that gets interesting in the battle over 441 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: there on the left side. But I think Shamar Turner 442 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: in the second round, Luther Burden in the second round, 443 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: and Colston Loveland in the first round immediate helps to 444 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: that team. They've got some rush already, they got some 445 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: dudes in the secondary. They they upgraded their offensive line 446 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams is in year two and they got 447 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: the most creative play call in all the football who's 448 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: now the head coach. I think the Bears are in 449 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: a worse the first potential scenario in the NFC North. 450 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: I think they got that shot. 451 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Man, I'm gonna go to the Green Bay Packs 452 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: and then look, gopak go is ringing in my ears, 453 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: maybe because the draft was on location, but I'm looking 454 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: at them, and they take Matthew Golden and then come 455 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: back and take save On Williams from TCU and Golden, 456 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: you get a polished receiver who can be a hybrid 457 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: wide receiver one or wide receiver two that you can 458 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: put out there and he is going to make plays 459 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: as a route runner and playmaker. And Savian Williams you 460 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: just got to get the ball and get out the 461 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: way type player. 462 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: Some wild say maybe is Kodero Patterson. 463 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: Maybe he can give you something that is different than 464 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: being your normal traditional receiver and watching him execute the 465 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: wildcat for the horn Frogs and watching him touch the 466 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: ball a bunch of different ways and kind of figure 467 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: it out. Man, there has to be a role that 468 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: he can play. And I'm willing the bank that Matt 469 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: Leffleuy is gonna figure out a way to use a 470 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: six four to two d and twenty two pounds that 471 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: can do it in a variety of ways. And then 472 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: the last one that will kind of stand out to 473 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: me is man big Boy from Texas Baron Surreal being 474 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: able to kind of come and add to what they 475 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: already had, which is a collection of playmakers on the edges. 476 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: He is going to be a guy that's given an 477 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: opportunity to develop, but man if it works for him. 478 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: And also Colin Oliver from Oklahoma State. Remember, man, this 479 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: dude had a lot of production at one point throughout 480 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: his career. I just know that when the packers kind 481 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: of invest in these guys, they're looking at guys who 482 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: are productive and they're gonna give them every opportunity first 483 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: to earn them on special teams and then to make 484 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: plays as part of the rotation. 485 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: I'll let you go first. 486 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: In the NFC South, the raging champs are the Tampa 487 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Bay Bucks. Can anyone catch it? 488 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone called him, because man, I 489 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: just love what they were able to do on the draft. 490 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: But we'll go and let's talk about the new Orleans 491 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: Saints and what they were to do. And look, it's 492 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: risky in a way in terms of what they did first, 493 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: Calvin Banks taking him at nine, first round, ninth. Overall, 494 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that were talking about 495 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 2: him late kind of being in the process as a 496 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: top ten player. But for them to take him and say, hey, 497 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: we got a true left tackle, a guy that can 498 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: play and go right away. When you look at the tape, 499 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: obviously you see the talent and those things. You just 500 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: don't see the consistent dominance or violence that maybe. 501 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: You want to see. 502 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that he is a really, really 503 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: good player. But look, I think this draft hinges on 504 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: what Tyler Shutt is able to do as a quarterback. 505 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: Second round pick, seven year guy Oregon, Texas Tech Louisville, 506 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: showed up in Louisville and showed out has talent when 507 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: you see him walking around, he's the prototype interviewed will 508 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: all those things. The big thing that makes him the 509 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: X factor is can he play to his potential. If 510 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: he plays to his potential, the New Orleans Saints are 511 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: right up there and they're going to be marching in. 512 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: But if not, man, they're gonna be back in the 513 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: world looking for another quarterback in the next couple years. 514 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: So a lot of their success hinges on Tyler shit 515 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: being able to play early and being able to play 516 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: well in a league that typically east up quarterbacks and 517 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: throws them out. 518 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: Because of what you just said, that's why I can't 519 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: go with the Saints. I gotta go with the Falcons. 520 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 521 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: We know the Falcons have Jon Robinson, dynamic, dynamic tight 522 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: running back, Kyle Pitts. I don't even know what Kyle 523 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Pitts is right now. I mean, we keep waiting for 524 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: cal Pits. So I can't just sit here and say 525 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. But well, I mean in theory, Kyle Pitts. Uh, 526 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: they got some wide receivers, they've got some decent offensive linemen, 527 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: they needed help on defense, And to me, you got 528 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Walker and James Pierce, who are two of the 529 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: most high impact rushers from the SEC that you're gonna find. 530 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you got two ballhawks, 531 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: Xavier Watson Billy Bowman. I get the Xavier Watson has 532 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: average speed, Billy Bowman's undersize, but these dudes are straight ballhawks. 533 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Tremendous instincts, the ability to flip the field. I just 534 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: think when you look at the first four picks and 535 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: you say Walker, Pierce, Wattson Bowman, all four of those 536 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: guys can have an impact in their rookie year. Now 537 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: we go to quarterback. Is this draft going to be 538 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: what turns it? No, it's gonna be Michael Pennicks playing well. 539 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: So obviously a lot rests on Michael Pennix. But you know, 540 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: it feels like the NFC South is always a little 541 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: bit tenuous. You're always an injury away from a team 542 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: just completely tumbling. I think the Falcons are a team 543 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: who really helped themselves in the draft, and I think 544 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: by from the spirit of just who helped themselves the 545 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: most from the draft that can beat the Tampa Bay Bucks. 546 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I would say it's definitely the Falcons because I you know, 547 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: I do have some faith that Michael Pennis can be 548 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: good enough. 549 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 4: When you have a running back like Bjon Robinson. 550 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: Look, he certainly can be good enough. 551 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: We'll see if they finally can get it together, because 552 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: this is a team that will always talk about man 553 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: the greatest that never was. 554 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: If they're not able to get it together, let's go 555 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: to the West. 556 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: Everyone understands what the Rams are and how they have 557 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: really been able to surprise people kind of, I guess. 558 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 3: Orchestrate their own takeover. But who do you like? 559 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals, Seahawks, forty nine ers? Which teams do you believe 560 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: have really closed the gaps on the Rams? 561 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: Now? 562 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 4: It's really tough. 563 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna you kind of have to use what's 564 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: already on the roster. I like the draft the Seattle 565 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: Seahawks had, but I don't know that I'm ready to. 566 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: You know, you got brand new wide receivers over there, 567 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: including Cooper cup Who's who's an older player. We don't 568 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: know what he has left. I don't know that the Cardinals. 569 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: The Cardinals had some high ceiling, low floor picks in 570 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: their first three, so I got to go forty nine ers. 571 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: I think by default you've got pieces that have already 572 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: been in place. You really address the defensive front. Nick 573 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: Martin is a tremendous athlete with some rush, and he 574 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: with the third pick, the second pick out for Collins. 575 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: I think if they get his weight under control, he 576 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: looks like a forty nine er defensive lineman, as does 577 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: mikel Williams who can play outside as a stand up rusher. 578 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: So you know you got you got a very very 579 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: competitive slot corner and up in stout with the one 580 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: hundred pick of the draft, which most slots his size 581 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: do not get drafted. There, that should tell you what 582 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers think of him. To draft a 583 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: five foot nine slot corner with you know who weighs 584 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: less than one hundred and ninety pounds, to draft him 585 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: at one hundred, they like him a lot. And then 586 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think Jordan James the running back in 587 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: the fifth round and Marcus Siegel the safety in the 588 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: fifth round, don't sleep on these guys. Siegull has really 589 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: incredible explosiveness and speed. But you know, Jordan James running 590 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: back from Morgan. All they do is find running backs 591 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: just to come up and have big Jordan Mason we 592 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: saw with him a couple of years ago. Now we 593 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: got Jordan James Morgan, who's a one cutback who I 594 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: think can step in and have an immediate impact as 595 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: the second running back over there with the forty nine ers. 596 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go forty nine ers. They already have 597 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: pieces in place. 598 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I like what they did with the draft, they really 599 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: attack their defense with the first one hundred picks. Frankly 600 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: the first one hundred and thirteen picks because CJ. West 601 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: was in the fourth round. So I'm going to the 602 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: forty nine ers in that division. 603 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: Look, man, I can't knock the Wholsome I did the 604 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: forty nine ers and what they've been able to do. 605 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Arizona Cardinals. And the only reason 606 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: I'm going to Aaron Zone Corners. 607 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: I think Minic Austin Ford and Jonathan Gannon are really 608 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: cooking with gas when it comes to rebuilding this team. 609 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: They have a clear plan for what they want to do. 610 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: I like what Walter Nolan provides them as an interior 611 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: disruptive playmaker, someone who has the ability to really get 612 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: into cracks and make things happen as a run defender 613 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: and pass rusher. Love that, And then I love the 614 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: fact that they just kept shopping in the big ten. 615 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we just rattled off Will Johnson come and 616 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: giving them a nice corner. 617 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: On the other side of. 618 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: The guy who was really viewed as a top fifteen 619 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: player but now he lands in the second round, Jordan 620 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: Birch energize the Bunny coming off the edge. Oregon gives 621 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: them something, Cody Simon, who is a seaball kitball defender, 622 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: all those things, and then I would say, kind of 623 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: finish it off with a guy like Denzel Burke, someone 624 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: that can kind of play multiple spots in the back 625 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: end in terms of that subpack his defender. I love him, man. 626 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: I just think it is solid. They know exactly who 627 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: they are. They're leaning into what I would call a smart, 628 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: tough football player as they're trying to change the dynamics 629 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: of the locker room. I think Austin Ford and Gannon 630 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: have really knocked it out the part. This is a 631 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: really solid draft in my opinion in Arizona. 632 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. 633 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: I do like you know, like I said, high ceiling, 634 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: low floor, but the ceiling is really high for the 635 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: three guys when they took in the first three picks. 636 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: So and I did not think Gannon, I'll admit it, 637 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't judge the book by the cover. 638 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: I think people did that with Dan Campbell at the 639 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: introductory and everyone saw the you know, the the Jonathan Gannon, 640 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: the kind of the weird little thing that he was 641 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: doing with Luda Baker and everyone thought, Oh my god, 642 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: he's way over his head. 643 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: Man. 644 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: That team has played played hard. Gannon's done a great 645 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: job over there. 646 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: He really has lance. 647 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: He's one of the things that I've really been surprised 648 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: in turn of like how they've been able to kind 649 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: of get down and what they've been able to do. 650 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: Because I'm honest with you, man, I didn't see it 651 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: like that. I didn't think that he would have like 652 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: that kind of impact on them. But man, he's been 653 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: He's been terrific. Man, He's been really good for them. 654 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: He's kind of figured out a way to like make 655 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: it happen. So I'm gonna give him as props. I mean, 656 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: I did not see him being a guy that I'm 657 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: eventually thinking it can be like a high level coach, 658 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: a coach that we revere and really celebrate. But he's 659 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: done a really good job and this team is positioned 660 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: to challenge the teams at the top of the division. 661 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: I would agree with you, well, that's a rap coach. 662 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: That's a rap the rap last we went through, we 663 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: went through it so quickly. I appreciate you stepping in 664 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: for DJ. Look, I got to say this personally, I 665 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: appreciate all the hard work that you did throughout the 666 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: process doing the stuff that we did over the course 667 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: of the weekend, covering every pick, all two hundred and 668 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: fifty seven of the picks. You've been able to drop 669 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: nuggets on all of them because you did four hundred 670 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: and fifty profile for NFL dot com. 671 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: That was great. 672 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: You should be applauded and celebrated. And so hopefully when 673 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: the old lady gets back from the stuff, should take 674 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: you out to dinner and make sure she appreciates you. 675 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: I'm hoping. 676 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like no one appreciates it, appreciates 677 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: me in this house. I mean, I got to wait 678 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: for my daughter to get back for somebody to show 679 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: me some love my dog. 680 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: That's it. 681 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: And Bucky bro I appreciate that. 682 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: But that's right, that's right, that's right. Well until next time, 683 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: how Bucky Brook? That was landsay. This is move to sticks. 684 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: Make sure you check us out next week. When we 685 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: dropped a couple more new thoughts,