1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we're gonna We're 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: going to go through a survivor story. We've all been 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: watching as the families have been mourning the losses of 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: the Texas flooding, the campground that I think everybody, as 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: a parent has watched these parents learn that their children 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: didn't survive the flooding. And I think that many of us, 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: if we know someone who is involved, we're trying to 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: figure out how to support them and if we don't, 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I think that so many. I mean, I know from 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: my perspective, I've watched this as a parent, and I've thought, 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: I can't I can't imagine what it's like afterward. What 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: the question the questions that you have, what their last 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: moments were like, and just what you how do you sleep? 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: How do you survive? How do you move on? And 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: we're so blessed to be grace today with Kim Canton. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: She actually survived a very similar situation, a deadly twenty 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: eighteen mud slide in Montecito was a now disaster. This 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: was twenty three people that lost their lives and Kim, 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: your husband and your son were among those people. And 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming today to share your story. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Absolutely so yeah, I'll tell 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: you a little bit of what happened. It was eerily similar, 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: I think, because it was in the dark, in the 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: middle of the night, right that part of the mountain 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: came down, and there had been a forest one of 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: the largest wildfires in California history the month prior, and 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: it took all the foliage out of the mountains. And 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: Santa Barbara's kind of where the mountain meets the sea. 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: There's mountain range, there's about four miles and then there's 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 2: Pacific Ocean. And so there was carcis boulders sitting precariously 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: on the hillside, and I looked at those houses, thinking, oh, 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: I feel so bad for those people. Our house was 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: down in the village, so we weren't very concerned where 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: I was concerned about the houses up on the hillside 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: with the boulders. And what happened sadly and was about 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: thirty days later. There was torrential rain and about half 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: an inch fell in fifteen minutes. And on top of that, 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: there were seven water mains in the mountain that all 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: gave way, so it was like Niagara Falls on top 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: of torrential rain. And when you have a forest fire, 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: you know, what it leaves is kind of like a 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: plastic soot, I would say. And so it just slid down. 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: And so in the dark at about three in the morning, 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: the mountain came down and a neighbor across the lane 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: from us and near the creek, he looked over at 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: our house and car sized boulders jammed up unto the 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: underpass and you'd hear the zing, zing zing. We didn't 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: know what was happening in the house. We were all 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: up trying to get dressed to get out. We knew 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: the heavy rain, and the neighbor said he saw a 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: thirty foot wave plume up around the curve of the creek, 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: but it couldn't go anywhere because it jammed up boulders, 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: and it crashed down on our house with my family 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: in it. And my husband was on you know, he 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: had he had seen it. He'd open the front door 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: and he says, back door now, and he ran to 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: the backyard and there was a glass glass door there 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: and he was on the other side of the door saying, Kim, 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: get out, get out, get out. But my hand got 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: stuck in the door. And by the time they'll wear 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: and beware, alarm went off on my phone. I was 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: chest deep in mud and I had watched my Irish 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: setter dog get rolled over with mud, and you know, 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: as it filled up in the house. My son and 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: my daughter were in different parts in the house. My 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: daughter had run to get her rain boots when my 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: husband said, get dressed, let's get out. My son probably 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: went to his room to get his computer. And my 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: fourteen year old daughter was washed away but a football 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: field and buried alive under twenty feet of mud for 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: six hours with just a tiny pocket of air the 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: size of a volleyball with a teeny tiny hole. She'd 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: push on her entument and it didn't budge, and she 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: screamed and screamed and screamed. I was washed away two 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: football fields, found in a debris pile in an intersection, 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: wrapped in electrical wires, severely injured. And you know when 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: when I got rescued, I was in the hospital at 78 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: about eight thirty in the morning, So I was on 79 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: that debris pile for quite a long time. And at 80 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: about ten thirty that I heard the door open and 81 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: they said, you have a daughter named Lauren, I said, yes, 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: I do, and they said they just rescued her, and 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: her rescue was shown around the world because it was 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: like phoenix rising that she was able to survive what 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: she endured and there's part of a roof over her. 86 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: How did they know where she was? They heard her screaming? 87 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually I think angels were with us 88 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: that day, because when they came to find me on 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: the in the intersection debris pile, they said, where was 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: your home? Which was scary for me to hear the 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: was and I thought, I must be in my backyard somewhere, right, 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: And I just took my one hand that worked, and 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: I pointed back and I said, right back there. And 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: two of the firefighters walked to where I pointed because 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: there was debris piles everywhere, cars and trees everything, and 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: there was a gas leak, and so they couldn't hear 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: things well. But Ben, the firefighter in Montecito, he said, 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: I think I hear screaming, and they thought it was 99 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: a house nearby that was still kind of standing of it, 100 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: and he sent Andy over, and Andy, you know, with 101 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: the gasleek, was listening, listening and he heard it, so 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: it was just absolutely a miracle that I went where 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: I went, and. 104 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: So that was how they found your daughter, yes, wow, wow. 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: And then we searched for my son. He was one 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: of the missing. And that's why Texas is so so 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: hard for me to watch, because I just feel so 108 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: immensely for everyone. There was twenty three people died that night, 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: my husband and son, my seventeen year old son. But 110 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: there was two that were missing they couldn't find, and 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: one was my son, and one was a beautiful baby 112 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: girl who was too lydia. 113 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: So that night, how did you know that? I mean, 114 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: I think so many of us have gone to sleep 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: in the rain, and certainly you never considered. I mean 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: you said you thought the houses up on the ridge 117 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: may be in trouble, but you never considered that your 118 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: house would be washed away. How did you know to 119 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: get up even and be prepared? 120 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: There was heavy rain, and I was more of a 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: nervous nelly and so over protective. I even had a 122 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: hotel room reserved in town. So if it got really 123 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: bad and we felt unsafe because we evacuated every time 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: during the Thomas fire when they said to evacuate, so 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: I just said, hey, if we get uncomfortable, let's get out. 126 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: So we had our go bags. We had the cars 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: staged across in a neighbor's driveway so that we could 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 2: put sandbags up near us. We had the trains checked, 129 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, And when we got up, we're just like, 130 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: this is too heavy a rain. Like my husband looked 131 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: in the garage. He says, it's coming up with water 132 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: like we'd never seen anything like it. It was torrential. 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: It was torrential rain coming down, and it came on 134 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: the heels of a wildfire that took all everything of 135 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: security off that mountain. 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: You said, your hand got caught those moments. I think 137 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: that a lot of people wonder what those moments are 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: like before disaster strikes and then as you are separated, 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and what is going through your mind? Were you knocked out? 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: What happened after that? 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: It was sheer terror. All of a sudden, there was. 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: It went from pitch black when I looked out the 143 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: window when we were getting ready to get out, to 144 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: an eerie yellow all of a sudden. What I didn't 145 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: know there was a big gas explosion in town and 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: it made the whole sky light up, like I would say, 147 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: like a nuclear bomb, and I just said, I go, Dave, 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: something really wrong going on, Something really wrong is going on, 149 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: and so yeah, we just it was it was terror. 150 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: So my husband opened the front door, slammed it right 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: away because he was checking on how the house was 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: doing with rain. He I think saw that thirty foot 153 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: wave coming toward us, because he blasted past. 154 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: Me when he said back door, back door, back. 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: Door now, and he'd get out, get out, get out, 156 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: And I couldn't because my hand got stuck in the 157 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: door and the mud was pushing against it, so I 158 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: couldn't open it because I mean, all of a sudden, 159 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: the MUD's you know, at my chest. And then I 160 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: went under. You know, I did a lot of you know, 161 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: I did some prey, and I can tell you that 162 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: in what I yelled. And then I went under and 163 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: I felt everything. And they interviewed a Texas survivor who 164 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: said it felt like she was in a wash machine. 165 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: And I know exactly what she felt like, but I 166 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: called it a trash compactor because as the house was 167 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: falling apart, I was hit by granite, bricks, broken glass, everything, 168 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: and it was so much pain. I said, I'm like God, 169 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: if you want me to die, just show me the 170 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: white light, like, get me out of this pain. And 171 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: at that point I must have been knocked out. And 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: then all I remember is kind of coming to on 173 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: a debris pile. I was being rained on. It was cold, 174 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: it was January. I was in bare feet, you know. 175 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: I had put on my turtleneck and leggings from the 176 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: day before, and they were my one hand could tell 177 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: they were all shredded. And I was pulling up big, 178 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: big pieces of wood. And when I got to the hospital, 179 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: it was like someone took a wire brush to the 180 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: front of my body and rubbed vigorously. Was I was 181 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: pretty beaten up. 182 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that you said I called to 183 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: the Lord and said, if this is my time, I 184 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: can't take the pain, take me now. He didn't take you, 185 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: but it knocked you out. It was like, this is 186 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: all I can bear. And there was grace to get 187 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: you to the point where you could get to the hospital. 188 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a powerful statement. 189 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I mean I remember yelling. I said, 190 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: Jesus saved me. Jesus saved me. Jesus save me. That's 191 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: what came. And then when I was on the debris pile, alone, freezing. 192 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: I just what's interesting is I learned something. Is I 193 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: just said the Lord's Prayer about twenty or thirty times, 194 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: and it was calming for me. That's what I did. 195 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: I just said the Lord's prayer. And what they say 196 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: in different religions, each one of their prayers has a 197 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: melodic stance to it that's actually very calming. So the Lord, 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: our Father, the Lord's Prayer in Christianity is that melodic 199 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: tempo that has something to do with your calming nervous system. 200 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: In other religions they have ones too that have that same, 201 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, a cadence that is calming. And that's what 202 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: i's when everything was unfolding, That's where clearly where I went. 203 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: Has your daughter talked about what happened to her? 204 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: Yes, she actually I wrote a book and we did 205 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: an audible and she asked to read her part of 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: being buried alive and how she survived it. And it's 207 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: pretty pretty pretty like she's the strongest human I know of. 208 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: How she kept herself sane for six hours, fully conscious. 209 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: I got knocked out, I was, I was actually fortunately 210 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: the whole time she was fully conscious, buried alive in 211 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: a contorted position under twenty feet of mud, and if 212 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: she tried to push on anything, nothing would move. So 213 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: she thought that was her tomb. And so to hear 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: her talk about what she did to survive was she's 215 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: the strongest human. I know. 216 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Wow, And what kind of what was the recovery? Like 217 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: you were in the hospital. You have I assume more 218 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: injuries than just the skin burn on your chest. It's 219 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: got to be pretty severe. And at the same time, 220 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: half of your family is still missing. Yeah. 221 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I got into the hospital. I had two surgeries. 222 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: The first night, I thought I had a broken hip. 223 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: I had big laceration, A big, big part of my 224 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: flesh was taken out and I kind of had packed 225 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: it back in, but I packed it with all the debris, 226 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: so they had to operate on that. My leg was 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: cut down the to the bone at the knee through 228 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: the quad muscle, so a couple surgeries. I was eggplant purple, 229 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: just eggplant purple, and that wirebrush was like all over 230 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: my body. So I I had learned to walk again, 231 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: you know, wheelchair walker. I walked like a ninety five 232 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: year old for a long time and have really, really 233 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: really worked for seven years to get my you know, 234 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: my my normal gate back, you know, and I have 235 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, I can you know someone saw me today, 236 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: they wouldn't know. 237 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Wow wow. And then and did your dog? What were 238 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: her injuries? 239 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:09,479 Speaker 2: She had I think cracked ribs and bruised or fractured pelvis. 240 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: But in her rescue, you know, in the video, it's 241 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: stunning because the firefighters get her out and they said, 242 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: can we carry you to the ambulance and she says, no, 243 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: I'll walk. 244 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: Wow wow, No, I'll walk. 245 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: And she was injured and she's like, I'm walking and 246 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: it was They couldn't believe it. They're like, this is 247 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: incredulous that she survived it. And then she's saying that she. 248 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Was what fourteen? 249 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,239 Speaker 2: You said she was fourteen years old? 250 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's twenty wow two. Now, yeah, that is amazing. 251 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: My daughter will turn fourteen next month, my middle daughter, 252 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: And I just think about that and I think that's 253 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: where we are today. So many of us across the 254 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: country have heard these stories of the flooding and the 255 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: kids being washed away. And that's where you dealt with 256 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: both things. Now, not only were you in it, but 257 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: you also lost a son, lost a husband. So walk 258 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: us through how do you. You help people today. Sadly, 259 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: your tragedy is not the last tragedy, and what we 260 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: know is that can't mystic will also not be the last, 261 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: because these things happen. Let's take a quick commercial break. 262 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. I love 263 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: listening to you because you sit here and you talk 264 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: about how strong your daughter is, and I'm like, I 265 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: hear these stories really, And I packed my arm and 266 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I kept going and I you know, and I'm calling 267 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: to the Lord and I get through the hospital. Now 268 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I've gotten my gate back, and I'm like, in all 269 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: of this suffering the most immense loss a human can suffer. 270 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: So tell us how you talk people through this? And 271 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: how did you how do you stay? You're so positive 272 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: and you just have such a great outlook, which I 273 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: think that when you say that about your daughter, I'm like, well, 274 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: look who her mother is. 275 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. You know what I'd say, you know, my 276 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: heart bleeds for everyone in Texas. Is I found for 277 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: me is that the community helped me heal. And I'm 278 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: a type A didn't ask for help. I was the 279 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: helper and I was filaid open and I needed help 280 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: and I accepted it, and so one is be open 281 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: and vulnerable to help because you're going to need it, 282 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: all the help, and it's for quite a long time, right, 283 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: and for the community to use whatever talent you have 284 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: to help. I have met so many amazing people that 285 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: just showed up who I did not know, Like when 286 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: we looked for we looked for my missing son and 287 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: baby Lydia for three years. We looked for their remains, 288 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: and I had what's called a sacred search team. It 289 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: was about seven people. I knew six of them. I 290 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: did not know six of them before this tragedy. So 291 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: if I said to you, hey, it's twenty twenty five, right, 292 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: will you go out with me every two weeks until 293 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight to look for these missing kids, not 294 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: many people's hands would go up. Guys came out. It 295 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: was a search handler and his professional search dog. It 296 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: was a general contractor with a big rig so she 297 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: could get down all the debris and the debris piles. 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: A woman who lost her house and would go spot 299 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: to see what's in there. You know. It was just 300 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: a Scout dad. My husband was a Scout leader and 301 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: his son was in the troop and he didn't want 302 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: me to find Jack by myself. He just he wanted 303 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: to honor my husband so much, and so they used 304 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: their talents to help. I went to a local CBS 305 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: early on and everyone recognized who I was. It was 306 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: all over the news. And a woman stopped and she says, 307 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: you're Kim right, and I said, yeah. She goes, here's 308 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: my card. My name's Kimmy my husband dined in nine 309 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: to eleven. And I will do anything for you if 310 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: you just need me to go get your dry cleaning, 311 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: go get your dry cleaning. And that was the magic. 312 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: Everyone has something they can offer. So I would encourage 313 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: those in Texas not directly impacted find a way to help, 314 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: find a way to help. And I think through that 315 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: what I've heard is those people who helped me and 316 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: the other survivors of the mud slide found that that 317 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: was a period of great meaning and growth for them 318 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: by helping, and for those who like me, were impacted 319 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: and not used to taking Help's be open and vulnerable 320 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: to help. And I was open to everything from widows groups, 321 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: talk therapy, MDR trauma therapy, thematic healing. Because what Texas 322 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: has endured and what I endured was called sudden traumatic death. 323 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: That's different from anticipatory death. My dad just died at 324 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: eighty six. He had dementia. We knew it was coming. 325 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: He lived eighty six great years. Right, he did it right. 326 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: I have with SUD and traumatic. You have grief and 327 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: you have trauma. Oh, work on both. And I've worked 328 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: diligently for seven years. And I told my daughter, I said, honey, 329 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: we've never been through anything like this. We don't know 330 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: what we don't know. We need to invest to get 331 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: the help we need so that we're going to be 332 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: okay again. It really affects your nervous system, you know. 333 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: I want to be fit for human consumption again. I 334 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: have a lot of living to do. I'm relatively young, 335 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: you know. I want to embrace life and know that. 336 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: And they won't believe me when I say this, tutor, 337 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: and they probably don't want to hear it now. But 338 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: what I've found after seven years reflecting, I do want 339 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: my husband and son back every day, my dog and 340 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: my house. I'd love that. But there have been silver linings. 341 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: I've seen the best of humanity. I have seen the 342 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: best of humanity. 343 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: That is an amazing testimony that I mean incredible because 344 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I think that it's a it's the biggest fear of 345 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: every parent is like you said, thet the traumatic sudden death, 346 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: and that is a loss. You found him. It was 347 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: three hour or three years later that you found his body. 348 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: The university team, they had an anthropology team, bio forensic, anthropologist, 349 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: and archaeologist. The students were out with the professor, and 350 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: they didn't find all of them by any stretch of 351 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: the imagination, but they found some and it was enough 352 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: for me to be able to bury him with some dignity. 353 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: And I just didn't want him in a pile with 354 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: a you know, bent up chain leak fence and and 355 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: some some stuff from someone's garage. I didn't I didn't 356 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: feel here or baby was. 357 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: That close to your house. 358 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: It was relatively yeah. I don't want to say exactly 359 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: because I don't want little shrines to it, but yeah, yeah. 360 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: And your husband was found right away. 361 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: He was found, they told me. I think on day 362 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: two they did a trial run. The first day after 363 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: my surgery. They came in and say, who do you 364 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: want to be here when we find stuff out? And 365 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: you know, the priest came and none came. All that 366 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: stuff and they told me that Chester, my ninety pound 367 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: Irish setter, was found six foot up a tree, crushed 368 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: and didn't survive. And so that was kind of the 369 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: chest run. And then the next morning someone from the 370 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: Sheriff's office came in and said, we found Dave. And 371 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: I said, alive and they said no, And I said, 372 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: are you sure? I go, We're sure. They had done 373 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: all the testing and everything to make sure it was him, 374 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: and he was found on the shoreline at the beach. 375 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: And so he was found early at the time I 376 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: was going to the hospital, I think he was. He 377 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: was being found, people saw him and luckily he was 378 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: the top of the debree piles, so they saw him. 379 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: It is a miracle to think that coming out of 380 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: that house and having such a sudden mud slide. I mean, 381 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: you think about the earth just going right through your house, 382 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: that you have two survivors of that story. 383 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: It was America a miraculous Yes, I mean, it was 384 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: absolutely miracle. 385 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: You you look like you didn't have any like major 386 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: scars on you. That people will know you when they 387 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: see you, is what I'm saying. And here you had 388 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: what you said was like having your body just rubbed 389 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: with sandpaper, But you look like you've come out of it. 390 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: And I'm sure your daughter knew who you were right away. 391 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. They Actually we were in different hospitals, but we 392 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: face timed and a woman who was in helping me 393 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: put a scarf around me my head and tried to 394 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: like put on some makeupy stuff just so it didn't 395 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: scare her, because I was I was, you know, I 396 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: look like, you know, black eyes. You know, I was 397 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: purple all over. 398 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: But no, I mean that you have a cut on 399 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: your arm, but in your leg. But it's amazing that 400 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: your face. I mean, I know that sounds. 401 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: I could have lost all my teeth, I could have 402 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: lost my eyes because think about it, there were sixty 403 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: two homes that were destroyed that night, and all their 404 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: windows were being broken, and I was swimming with shards 405 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: of glass, broken windows, of electrical wires, all the caustic 406 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: stuff in people's garage. 407 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: And I know I didn't lose a tooth, I didn't 408 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: lose an eye. 409 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: And it is your daughter in that same situation that 410 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: is I mean, you think about that and you really 411 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: feel like that prayer surrounded you to be protected in 412 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: a way. 413 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I knew absolutely absolutely was. 414 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I was. 415 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: I was helped to live. There was no reason. There 416 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: was no reason when you saw the car sized boulders, 417 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: the hundred year old down trees and everything I was with, 418 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: there's no reason that I should have that. I makes 419 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: sense that I survived and that I ended up on 420 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: the top of the repile. I wasn't in the middle 421 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: of it, so I couldn't breathe. Lauren, she had a 422 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: pocket of air. Guess what, in front of her nose, 423 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: not her belly button, not her me. It was exactly 424 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: where she needed it. So it was by the grace 425 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: of God that we survived. And it's just she has 426 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: one scar, and I asked her one more prominent scar. 427 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna see where it is, but I go, 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: you know, is that concerned she because that's my superhero scar, 429 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: because like that's my my, my bad woman's scar. Like 430 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: she's proud. I'm good for you. 431 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. She's a miracle. She might as 432 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: well have something to show it. So you wrote the memoir. 433 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you said you did an 434 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: audiobook and she gets to tell her own story, and 435 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's powerful because especially for 436 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: anybody who is going through this, but also I think 437 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: for all of us who have just lived what we've 438 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: learned from the news. You know, we saw the fires 439 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: in California a few years ago, we saw the fire 440 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: in in Hawaii. We saw the floods in North Carolina 441 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: and the floods in Texas, and I think that human 442 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: nature is to say, I just need to know that 443 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: survival story. And you've been able to come out from 444 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: a space of really living this trauma and going through 445 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: that yourself. And I think you're the miracle story that 446 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: everybody goes, wow, how is it possible? And two two 447 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: people and one family get to be the miracle story. 448 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: So it's called where the Yellow Flowers Bloom? Is that right? 449 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: Yes? You know we're yellow flowers bloom. 450 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Tell us tell us a little bit about that. 451 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it was COVID and everyone was staying inside, and 452 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: so I started to think it was you know, a 453 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: few years out, I'm like, I'm going to start writing 454 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: some of the downs so that I remember it all 455 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: for my future if I get grandchildren, that they know 456 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: the story of what happened. And as I start started 457 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: to write it, I realized I was going from desperate 458 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: grief to a peaceful acceptance. And I said, you know, 459 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: I think this might help someone. And so and then 460 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: my sacred search team are like, you need to write 461 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: some of the stuff down. You saw that was just 462 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: some incredible things that happened, and so I did. I 463 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: never thought I'd ever be an author. I mean I 464 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: never finished a book, like in elementary school, because I 465 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: was so active and I was doing cartwheels. I wasn't reading, 466 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: you know, any book at the library. And so I 467 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: wrote a book and it's won seven awards for inspirational memoir. 468 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: And I don't say that in any kind of ego way, 469 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: but why I'm happy is it's people are telling me, 470 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: those who've lost children or have suddenly found their life 471 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: pivot in a just a traumatic way, they've found healing 472 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: in it. And it's a fast read. I mean people 473 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: read it in like three days. Like it's just like 474 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: I mad in short chapters, you know, to make it 475 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: so it's easy. But yeah, if it if it can 476 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 2: help people, that puts purpose to what happened to me. 477 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: Like what fran Victor Frankel says, right, he has the 478 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: book The Meaning of Life, and he says if something 479 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: really bad happens to you, how do you put meaning 480 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: to it? So if this puts meaning to what happened 481 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: to Lauren and I and my family, and it helps 482 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: other people, I'm one hundred percent for it. I'm a 483 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: one hundred percent for it. 484 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 485 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. And I think for parents, especially 486 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: parents of faith, and we know that the Camp Mystic 487 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: kids were at a Christian camp, and that knowledge, just 488 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: those moments that you described to me of saying, if 489 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: you're going to take me, take me now, I can't 490 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: handle all this pain. I can't handle this, and that 491 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: God listens, you know. And I think there is a 492 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: peace in knowing that those girls knew how to speak 493 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: directly to their creator, to God and call to him 494 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: when they needed help. And that I think is because 495 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: I've thought about this, you know, I have four girls, 496 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: and I think about what would it be like in 497 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: a situation like this, And there is so much peace 498 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: in knowing that they know the Lord. But to hear 499 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: your story on top of it is just so it 500 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: brings so much peace to the anxiety of parenting and 501 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: of tragedy. 502 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's interesting. And what I know, 503 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: I used to be a Sunday school teacher, you know, 504 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: for a while at the you know, I have a nunsense, Hey, 505 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: would you teach the junior high class? And I'm like, 506 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if I know all this stuff well enough. 507 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: And she's like, well, i'll give you, you know, the book 508 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: or all this stuff. And I just really love that 509 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: time with the junior high age kids. And and I 510 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: would tell them, you know, what's the thing said most 511 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: often in the Bible more than any other time, And 512 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: I said, it's fear not. You're not. You're not. And 513 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: and so, you know, some of those learnings kind of 514 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: stuck with me. And I think they're going to help 515 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: those those you know, for the parents of those those 516 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: kids that were washed away. You know, they're they're in 517 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: pure joy right now. We have it harder, we're not. 518 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: We don't get to see them, but they're in pure joy. 519 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: They're in pure joy. 520 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: And I know, yeah, yeah, and that's beautiful. And I 521 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: think that's I mean, it's interesting because even when you said, well, 522 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: my dad passed away, but we were prepared, and it's 523 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: it's still that same situation. You know that there are 524 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: no tears of pain or suffering. You know that they 525 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: are in a place of pure joy, and that we 526 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: have we will see them again. But but I think 527 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: in the meantime, while we're here, Where Yellow Flowers Bloom, 528 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: is such a great opportunity to sit and kind of 529 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: absorb that and realize that there is pain, but there's 530 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: a way through it on this earth and where we 531 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: are today, and that in this life we can still 532 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: find joy after such pain like that. And I'm just 533 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: so grateful that you wrote it. Where can people get 534 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: it on Amazon? 535 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's Where Yellow Flowers Bloom on Amazon, and 536 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: it's also an audible. But it's interesting about the title, right, 537 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: which I think you know. I want to say to 538 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: the all everyone who's suffered so much in Texas, is 539 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: the all the debris in Monacito, which was thirty square miles, 540 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: was full of arsenic and really bad bacteria, and the 541 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: university team said nothing really should grow in it at all. 542 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: And where we ended up finding some of my late 543 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: son was in a pile that was graced by yellow flowers. 544 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: And that's why I said, Where yellow Flowers Bloom, it's 545 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: where you can find beauty where otherwise you you wouldn't 546 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: expect it. And I will say to the you know, 547 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm so deeply sorry to all the people in Texas, 548 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: and I just hope it gets lighter for them, and 549 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 2: I really hope they lean into getting as much support 550 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: as they can get, and I really hope the community 551 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: does like what Santa Barbara did for me and the 552 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: others is the community people showed up. It's like mister 553 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: Rogers says, look for the helpers. They show up. There's 554 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: angels that show up. So be an angel to someone 555 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: if you weren't directly impacted, and if you were impacted, 556 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: you've received the love and support. It's healing, it's really healing. 557 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, thank you you are one of those angels. And 558 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you came on today. Kim Canton, thank 559 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: you so much for being here, Thank you for having 560 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: me absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on 561 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: this podcast. For this episode. In others, you can go 562 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com or the iHeartRadio app, 563 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and if 564 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: you want to watch it, the whole video is on 565 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: rumble at. Tutor did make sure you join us next 566 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: time and have a blessed day.