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Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Channel Room, joined as always by Tyler Stafford, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes we're joined by Josh Reddick. Today we upgraded in

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Speaker 1: the Josh department. We have Josh Miller, the Astros pitching coach.

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Speaker 1: Starting a tradition. I think, Josh, because last year we

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Speaker 1: had you on about a week before pictures and catchers

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Speaker 1: reported to to preview the pitching staff, you kindly agreed

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Speaker 1: to do it again. It was a good year for

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Speaker 1: you guys pitching wise last year, so I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna credit Crush City Territory with the success that you

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Speaker 1: guys had pitching wise last year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, happy to talk to you guys again. Have some

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Speaker 2: exciting pictures in camp here that'll get started next week,

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Speaker 2: so we'll put credit where credit is due. Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys to getting us off on a good foot last year.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, you can see that Josh

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Speaker 1: is at dike In Park right now. He's outfitted, he's

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Speaker 1: he's he's dressed like a coach. He's dressed like he's

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Speaker 1: been working today. He's in the coach's office, just coming

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Speaker 1: off the field. You've had a few guys in throwing bullpens,

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Speaker 1: throwing live vps, so things have really gotten started already, Josh.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the kind of the misconception that some

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Speaker 1: people have is that you guys, it's not one of

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Speaker 1: these things where these guys roll off their couch, go

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Speaker 1: to West Palm and they're gonna throw their first bullpens

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Speaker 1: like this. Uh, stuff starts very early. Kind of give

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Speaker 1: us a sense of where some of these guys are

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Speaker 1: in their ramp ups and kind of what going to

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Speaker 1: West Palm like, what transitions will be made. Then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the game's changed quite a bit. Even

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Speaker 2: back when I was playing in the minor leagues twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five years ago, you know, there was you had

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Speaker 2: to get an off season job, you couldn't really train

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Speaker 2: year round. It was a it was a different animal,

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Speaker 2: and things have started to, you know, become trend more

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Speaker 2: like it's a year round thing. For these guys. They

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Speaker 2: put in a ton of time training keeping their body right,

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Speaker 2: and you know, there's there's different thoughts to to how

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Speaker 2: you keep the arm going in the off season to

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Speaker 2: get it ready for next season. There's really not much

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Speaker 2: downtime and we've had a good crew of guys here

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Speaker 2: the Houston area and we you know, open up the

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Speaker 2: clubhouse and the complex to to them, and you know

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Speaker 2: we're here to you know, help guide them through the

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Speaker 2: preparation process so they could train appropriately and be ready

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Speaker 2: for spring. You know, the guys are usually on a

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Speaker 2: structured program where they they might play catch a couple

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Speaker 2: and then they you know, add some volume, some intensity

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Speaker 2: sometime in December or early January. And you know we're here.

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Speaker 2: We have our our bullpen catchers. Javier Bracamante, Caleb Nuniez

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Speaker 2: are local. I'm I'm local, Joe a Spot of the

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Speaker 2: We all come in and you know, help help the

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Speaker 2: them ready for spring. You know, most of these guys

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Speaker 2: the corner. So excited about the group we've had here

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Speaker 3: When when guys are coming back, you know, you haven't

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Speaker 3: you know you're getting ready for spring training. Obviously I'm

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Speaker 3: assuming they're not you know, throwing max effort or anything yet,

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Speaker 3: Like what are you as a coach looking for to

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Speaker 3: just see that progress is where you want it to be,

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Speaker 3: or how can you tell somebody has had a good

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Speaker 2: Well, every everybody's a little bit different. One person might

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Speaker 2: need to train differently than another. Some people can take

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Speaker 2: Everybody's you know, we're in constant communication of giving a

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Speaker 2: see some things tackled, like maybe it's another pitch or

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Speaker 2: tweak that all these guys are tuned to and and

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Speaker 2: uh they put the work in and it's uh, you

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Speaker 2: know something that it's my job and and our our

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Speaker 2: new assistant pitching coach, Ethan Katz's job to stay in

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Speaker 2: contact with these guys and and answer any quest, vide

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Speaker 1: That I'm glad you brought up, Ethan, because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get there before we get to the guys on

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Speaker 1: the pitching staff. Obviously a lot of turnover this offseason

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Speaker 1: on the pitching side. Obviously, Murphy now the lead pitching

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Speaker 1: coach to the Pirates. Congratulations again. I know, Josh, you

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Speaker 1: and Murph worked together for so long. I know that

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Speaker 1: that promotion. But as he exits, Ethan comes in. We've

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Speaker 1: had Ethan on the pod before. He spoke very glowingly

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Speaker 1: of you, Josh about the interview process and how that went.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious as you're going through that process and you

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Speaker 1: and Ethan start to talk, are you guys, is it

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Speaker 1: more that you guys see things the same way, you're

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Speaker 1: using the same words, same languages, or is it some

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Speaker 1: things that maybe he saw a little bit different that

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Speaker 1: you opened your eyes too, and maybe there's a little

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Speaker 1: been like early on working with Ethan.

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Speaker 2: Sure, like you said, you know, Murphy and I very close.

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Speaker 2: We worked together for a long time, going back to

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Speaker 2: the minor leagues. He's an integral part of the you know,

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Speaker 2: including the big leagues. The last handful of years. Excited

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Speaker 2: to see him, you know, go and grow with a

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Speaker 2: and wish him the best.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The interview process was pretty long, and we we talked

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Speaker 2: quite a few candidates, but Ethan Ethan Katz stood out

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Speaker 2: as you know, a guy that that has worked with

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Speaker 2: he knows his stuff, had time in San Francisco, got

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Speaker 2: him as a person, about his knowledge base. We're still

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Speaker 2: but him and I have been working very closely, and

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Speaker 2: you know, he's you know, made calls and spoken with

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Speaker 2: all of our players on the roster and and you know,

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Speaker 2: we're looking forward to get in uniform and and get

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Speaker 3: Don't get don't get Josh Reddick going about needing to

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Speaker 3: wear your cleats around. That's that's all he says you

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Speaker 3: need to do. That's the last part of getting in

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Speaker 2: Well, it is. It is something I always said that,

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Speaker 2: you know, to get ready for spring training for a picture,

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Speaker 2: you should, uh you know, get up and then go

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Speaker 2: that's that's the life of a picture, at least it

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Speaker 2: used to be back in the day. Uh. We don't

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Speaker 2: make the guys really shag BP anymore. So it's more

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Speaker 2: individual focus. Gets the box, get there, get their uh

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Speaker 3: But uh yeah, no no more after no more BP.

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Speaker 3: After last year, we're gonna we're we're gonna avoid that.

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Speaker 2: Sound good.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like we need a field trip to the galleria

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Speaker 2: That would add add a little another element of danger

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Speaker 2: here a good ice skater, but I have seen many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the turnover is not limited obviously to the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Dana made no excuse. Dana made no way to hide it.

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Speaker 1: From the beginning of the off season. His his focus

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Speaker 1: in general. I'm curious, you know when there isn't when

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Speaker 1: How and obviously Dane is the one making the final call,

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Speaker 1: he constructs the roster. But but how much are you

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Speaker 1: see it like we see it, of oh, they signed

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a blend of both. But most most

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Speaker 2: of the time, you know, Dane is going to clude

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Speaker 2: Joe and I into any type of high level decisions

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd here too, sometimes they're not. But we're all

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know they make the calls on the

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Speaker 2: on the high level roster decisions, but they take our

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Speaker 2: input for sure. You know, I've been you know, given

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Speaker 2: him here in a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh, the one guy that you guys acquired

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Speaker 1: I think everyone is most excited to see is Tatsuya

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Speaker 1: e And I I heard you had an interview on

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Speaker 2: You know, it's something that we usually would would bring

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Speaker 1: He made it very clear that he has a sinker.

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Speaker 1: Do you have you did you reach out to Strami

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Speaker 1: spring training with four rotation spots that are pretty pretty

435
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Speaker 1: set in stone. Hunter Brown, who will we will talk

436
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Speaker 1: about Hunter Brown. I know we're twenty minutes into this

437
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Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about Hunter. We'll talk about Hunter.

438
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Speaker 1: Don't worry. But you've got Hunter, You've got Christian Javier,

439
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: you've got Tetsuya Emi, and you've got Mike Burrows. That

440
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Speaker 1: would seem to be the four that you know, you

441
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Speaker 1: could probably say right now have pretty firm holed on

442
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Speaker 1: a rotation spot. Joe has been pretty forthright that you

443
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Speaker 1: guys are going to open the season in a six

444
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Speaker 1: man rotation, so that would leave two spots kind of

445
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: back there, there's a lot of names and you got

446
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Speaker 1: and one thing Dana did this winner is he gave

447
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Speaker 1: you a lot of options. He gave you a lot

448
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Speaker 1: of depth, and he gave you a lot of guys

449
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: that are going to be vying for that spot. Josh,

450
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Speaker 1: it could be like one of the most fierce competitions

451
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Speaker 1: I'd think in my time covering the team, I can't

452
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Speaker 1: remember going in the spring with a competition like this

453
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Speaker 1: for the final two rotation spots. I guess how exciting

454
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Speaker 1: is that for you that you guys have a lot

455
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Speaker 1: of different guys that could, if they pitch well, that

456
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Speaker 1: could crack the rotation and kind of how do you

457
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Speaker 1: size that up? How you size those two open spots up,

458
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Speaker 1: you know, as a week before where you get to

459
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Speaker 1: West Palm.

460
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Speaker 2: It always always feels good to have have pitching depth

461
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: and competition during camp for sure. You know, a lot

462
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys that we feel good about. You know,

463
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Speaker 2: we got Spencer Araghetty, finished the season on the injured list,

464
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Speaker 2: but he's got dynamite stuff that we've seen play at

465
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Speaker 2: the major league level before aj Blue Ball, you know,

466
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Speaker 2: finished the season with you know what, twenty scoreless innings

467
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Speaker 2: that you know, it was really dynamite for us down

468
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Speaker 2: the stretch. Jason Alexander really held things together like like

469
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Speaker 2: glue last year and he'll be in there pitching. You

470
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Speaker 2: got Lance mccullors, who's you know, been a huge member

471
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Speaker 2: of this organization and it's got great stuff if it's on.

472
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Speaker 2: You know, we got tons of tons of good arms.

473
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Speaker 2: We we acquired another guy from from the Asian market

474
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Speaker 2: and Ryan Weiss, who's a big physical writing that we

475
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Speaker 2: He came in during fan Fest week and through for us.

476
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: He's got a super unique split change up thing that

477
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: that he commands pretty well. And he's a big physical guy.

478
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Speaker 2: Like I said, we got Nate Pearson who we acquired

479
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Speaker 2: early in the off season. He'll be you know, on

480
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: the mend from am a little elbow thing, but he'll

481
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: be stretched out as a starter during camp. You know,

482
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: a ton of guys to feel good about. I didn't

483
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: even probably touch on all of them there, but you know,

484
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: it's good to have depth, and it's a good group

485
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: to you know, have have compete during during spring.

486
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Speaker 3: So you're gonna have all of these guys stretched out

487
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Speaker 3: and you know kind of thinking in that mind frame

488
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 3: of starting pitching, but you also know that some of

489
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: those guys you know, are probably going to play some

490
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: roles in the bullpen, you know, in addition to triple

491
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Speaker 3: a starting and you know, keeping stretched out and all

492
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Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff. How does that change how

493
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Speaker 3: how you're approaching with them, you know throughout the spring training.

494
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Speaker 3: You know, when do you kind of know, Okay, this

495
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Speaker 3: person's probably not gonna be the rotation. Does it change

496
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Speaker 3: the way that you're approaching them as a coach or

497
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Speaker 3: the way that they're approaching getting ready for the season

498
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Speaker 3: if they think they're going to be a starter versus

499
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Speaker 3: a reliever.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big thing for a picture to know,

501
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: you know, what role they're preparing for. You know, having

502
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: having guys that have the flexibility to you know, change

503
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: on a dime due to circumstances is huge for me

504
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: because you do need to make that make that choice. Hey,

505
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: we got to get you ready for a reliever. We

506
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: might need you to throw, you know, three out of

507
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: the next six or seven days to make sure that

508
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: you're bouncing back and can handle that once the season

509
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: ends up. So it's a it's a math problem. You

510
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: kind of run out of time as you get deeper

511
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: into camp and and you know, having a guy be

512
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: on a starter schedule all spring and then say, hey,

513
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: you're just going to the bullpen. You know that's fine

514
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: on paper, but we have to treat that a little

515
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: differently once the opening day comes. We can't just use

516
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: him as a traditional reliever. If that's the case, the

517
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: body's probably not going to be used to it and

518
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: not ready to bounce back after an outing as a

519
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: guy who's been training as a reliever would. So, you know,

520
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: there are things that we need to think about and

521
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: there is a decision point where it would be nice

522
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: to know, hey, this guy's you know, we're gonna transition

523
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: you to a t more of a bullpen roll for

524
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: the last X amount of days of camp, and that's

525
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: what you're looking at your role for the start of

526
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: the season, So we can prepare them that way. You know,

527
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: might not be given that opportunity to make that decision

528
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: when when appropriate, but we'd like to have an idea

529
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Speaker 2: and transition guys and give them some runway.

530
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Speaker 1: And as we have as Tyler and I have talked

531
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Speaker 1: about on previous pods, because you guys are opening in

532
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Speaker 1: a six man rotation, and because you know there's a

533
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Speaker 1: lot of games and a lot of days early in

534
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Speaker 1: the season, and there's gonna be guys even in your

535
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: rotation that maybe their first or second time through the

536
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: rotation may not be stretched out to ninety five to

537
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and five pitches. Yet it's going to reinforce

538
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: the importance of you know, having swing guys in the bullpen,

539
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe doing some piggyback starts or some design tandem starts

540
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: that first run or two through the rotation. So I

541
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Speaker 1: guess in that vein like how vital could guys like

542
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: blue Ball, who has done it before, who has been

543
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: the back end of a tandem start before or you know,

544
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: Ryan Weisse if if you know, maybe there's not a

545
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: spot in the rotation for him, he can do that

546
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: out of the bullpen. You look at Spencer Aarraghetti has

547
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: done that before in the minor leagues. Like, how valuable

548
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: will that role be, especially early in the season.

549
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it could could play huge. You know,

550
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: we'll we're gonna get to camp and get everybody kind

551
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: of going and and we'll we'll line up what we

552
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: think is the best the best way to get through

553
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: the get through the games. But you know, we're starting

554
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: with a seven game homestand we got to pitch at

555
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: least nine innings in each one of those games. We

556
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: got to figure out who's going to do it. And

557
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: then we go on a road trip and you know,

558
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: you know there's a couple off days sprinkled in there

559
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: that should provide some reprieve. But then we have thirteen

560
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: games in a row, and you know it's gonna kind

561
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: of force our hand a little bit on how we

562
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: deploy guys. But you know, we'll sit down, put our

563
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: heads together, pick up the pieces after spring training, so

564
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Speaker 2: to speak, and line the guys up as best we can.

565
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Speaker 1: All right, twenty seven minutes in, we're gonna mention the

566
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Speaker 1: reigning Cy Young finalist and the unquestioned ace of your staff,

567
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Hunter Brown. I don't like we talked about it on

568
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: the pod Josh earlier this season, but I think when

569
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Speaker 1: he went out in his first start of the year

570
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: against the Nets, and this is just ingrained in my mind.

571
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Speaker 1: I think it was Lindor Soto and Alonso he faced,

572
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Speaker 1: and it was ninety nine. It was electric ninety nine.

573
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Speaker 1: Like my jaw was on the table, like, I did

574
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Speaker 1: not know that was in there. I did not know

575
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Speaker 1: that was coming. Like when you saw that, was it

576
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: just like, oh, man, like we're in for this kid's

577
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: in for a pretty special season. I know you had

578
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: probably thought it in the spring training, but to see

579
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: that first inning against those hitters, were you as kind

580
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: of just eye as wide as we were, and just

581
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: how did that maybe set the tone for the season

582
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Speaker 1: that Hunter had.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was an electric start to his season.

584
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Speaker 2: You know, he had had a pretty good spring. Yeah,

585
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: we've been we've had high hopes and thoughts of what

586
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: his performance would be going back, you know, for four

587
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: years or so. But to see that was it was

588
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: like a oh Man, here we go, you know. Unfortunate

589
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: he really he carved like a perfect cutter up and

590
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: into Soto and he got the barrel to it and

591
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: hit a home or it kind of dragged dragged the

592
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: outing a little bit for him. But yeah, it was

593
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: a good It was a good first one. Again. I

594
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: don't want to see him throwing ninety nine in spring training.

595
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I think, you know, well, we'll ease into a spring

596
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: training build up and get rolling there, but you know,

597
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: expecting big things from Hunter. He's he's been here in

598
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Houston since the second week of January and been working

599
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: out here and things have looked great and we're we're

600
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: excited to get started again.

601
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Speaker 1: This is gonna sound like a dumb question for a

602
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: guy that just had the season that he had, and

603
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: is I mean, was unquestionably one of the best pitchers

604
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Speaker 1: in the American League. Where can he get better? Because

605
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: you hear ballplayers all the time time, even like the

606
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: best of the best, even like the Otani's and the

607
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: judges of the world, say like, I can always be better.

608
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: I can I can always get that a little bit better.

609
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Where can he get better? Where can there be some

610
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: some evolution? Even if it's small, kind of minute granular things.

611
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some small, minute granular things that we think

612
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: he could he could tackle and he agrees that, you know,

613
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: can help him maybe miss miss some more bats against

614
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: right handed hitters, maybe drive account a little more in

615
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: his favor against lefties. We'd expect guy with his stuff

616
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: to strike out more guys probably now he's he's really

617
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: hard dominant with the four seam two C mix, so

618
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: that's going to lend a little bit more contact. But uh,

619
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 2: you know, just some small things that we think he

620
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: can shore up and and you know, move the needle

621
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I think you would ask everybody

622
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: here in the office and in the in the clubhouse

623
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Speaker 2: if we could just dial up a you know, a

624
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: repeat of the performance, we would we would take it

625
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: and we would be all very happy about it.

626
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Speaker 1: I think the thing that's also been impressive, Josh, and

627
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: we've discussed this a little bit. You know, he is

628
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Speaker 1: now this is three years in a row that he

629
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Speaker 1: has reset his career high and innings pitched like, he

630
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: keeps increasing workload and it doesn't look like it's really

631
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Speaker 1: wearing on him much. I mean late late in the

632
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: season last year he was as dominant late and as

633
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: you guys were clawing for a playoff spot as he

634
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: was at the beginning of the year. Does that just

635
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: speak to just the conditioning that he is in or what?

636
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: What do you attribute the fact that as there's been

637
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: so much concern around the sport workload wise and not

638
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: wanting that you guys have been successful with each year,

639
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: this guy throwing more and more in him coming out

640
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: of it healthy and still dominant late in the year.

641
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's he's been a little different than

642
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: most guys. He's you know, he's thick, he's strong, he's

643
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: he's he's diesel, you know, and you know he's he's

644
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: handled the work. He sets his sights out on on

645
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: in some bulk innings, and he wants to you know,

646
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: wants to get to two hundred and wants to be

647
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: the guy and wants to do all those things. And

648
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: you know that's step one, is to have a guy

649
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Speaker 2: that wants to do it and wants to take on

650
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: the workload. And you know, he does put in the

651
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: work and does a great job with our strength staff

652
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: and staying on top of things in the training room,

653
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: and he's got a good process about his routine, and

654
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, I think you know, all the guys have

655
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: their own certain ways about things, but for him, what

656
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: he does really gets him ready to post.

657
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: So we briefly mentioned Christian Haavier earlier. Obviously coming back

658
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: from injury last year, you know, was really just more

659
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: about are you healthy? Can he come back?

660
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: You know?

661
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: And so I mean it was obviously just great to

662
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: see him back on the mound and you know, getting

663
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 3: through starts. What do you expect from him this season

664
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: after coming off the injuries and you know, really hasn't

665
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: played a full season since twenty twenty three, What are

666
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: the expect to What are I mean, is there innings limits?

667
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know what what are you kind

668
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 3: of expecting of him from from this season?

669
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it was, like you mentioned, great to see

670
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: him get back out there and compete on a major

671
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: league field. We saw stuff kind of tick back up

672
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: closer to pre injury levels. Expect him to be a

673
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: little a little finer, maybe get to get closer to

674
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: what he what we saw in twenty twenty two, when

675
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: you know l Repteel was was dominant, you know, but

676
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna see the good in visits and

677
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: visit fastball from him, a sweeper, the same stuff. The

678
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: change up, which was added in twenty three is still

679
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: a you know, a big piece and and something that

680
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: we think he can he can lean on. He's been

681
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: throwing in the Dominican. He's feeling good. We expect a

682
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: full workload from Christian and are excited to get him

683
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: going again in spring.

684
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: Quickly to your bullpen where you have to feel excellent

685
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: about the back end. Brian abrew you as your setup guy,

686
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Josh Ador is your closer. Can obviously those roles can

687
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: flip on any day if you need, but you feel

688
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: great about those two guys, And I think that was

689
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: also the case last year. Going in the last year,

690
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: you and there was a lot of uncertainty, I guess

691
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: from us and from people that cover the team going

692
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: into camp of just like who's going to get the

693
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: ball to the back end, and then you guys just

694
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: kind of answered the questions with a bunch of you know,

695
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: quite frankly, guys that were not on my radar, guys

696
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: that you know in our eyes, Guys that were kind

697
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: of just or guys in tripa that that really took

698
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: the next step. I'm thinking of Brian King, Steven Okert,

699
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: Caleb Ard who no longer obviously had to get off

700
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: the roster as part of the moves this year. But

701
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: as you look at the middle of the bullpen going

702
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: in the spring this year, where do you give us

703
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: some guys that you think could comprise maybe that bridge

704
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: to a bray You and Hater and maybe how important

705
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: they're going to be because Joe has been pretty forthright

706
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: that he wants to stay away from four outs from

707
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Brian Abrady You in April and May, and the same

708
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: with Josh Hater who had the injury to him last year.

709
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: Kind of who are going to be those guys that

710
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: absorb a lot of those leverage outs maybe between the

711
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: sixth and the seventh and the fifth.

712
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: And we saw, you know, last year, a trifecta of

713
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: lefties that were just super good for us, and Steve Okert,

714
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: Bennett SUSA and Brian King. They're all back and expect

715
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: them to, you know, to repeat their performance. It's gonna

716
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 2: be hard to improve upon it. You know, we feel

717
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: real good about that group. We acquired Danielle del Santos

718
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: last year and he pitched some really big innings for

719
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: us in you know, July, August, September. He'll be back.

720
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: We had a Rule five pick from the Cincinnati organization,

721
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: Rodery Munoz, who's got a really unique, interesting slider. He

722
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: throws pretty hard, and you know, we'll see what it

723
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: looks like in camp when he gets in there. Jaden Murray,

724
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: who's been working out here in Houston, was added to

725
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: the roster last year and was also pretty dynamite for

726
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: us down the stretch. You know, he'll get a crack

727
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: at some things there. Some of those guys that we

728
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: mentioned as starting options might fall to a bullpen roll

729
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: if if we we deem that necessary, and they'd all

730
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: be ready. You know, all those guys were mentioned earlier.

731
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: We have some off you know, some non roster invite

732
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: guys that are interesting and exciting. Peter Lambert coming coming back.

733
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: It's got a you know, a link the major league

734
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: track record and then pitch in Japan last year. He'll

735
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: be back on a minor league deal. Cody Bolton was

736
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: a guy that we acquired uh end of last year.

737
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: He finished the season in sugar Land. He'll be in

738
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 2: camp as an NRI I. We got some guys internally

739
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: that pitched well in uh Michael nor Hudson, Leech Limber, Santa.

740
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: We saw Logan van Why last year. He was taking

741
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: off the forty man roster in the offseason, but his

742
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: back and he'll be in camp. So we got a

743
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: you know, a pretty good group of guys that we

744
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: feel good about. You know, the last few years, we've

745
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: seen some some guys that are not on the radar

746
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: come in and really perform and make their way on

747
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: our team. You know, we saw Luis Contreras a couple

748
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: of years ago. We had Steve Ookert last year just

749
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: come in and really really shine during spring and earn

750
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: a role and pitch some meaningful innings for us. So,

751
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: you know, we feel good about the group we have.

752
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to do. It's gonna have to perform

753
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: during camp, but you know, we we expect good things.

754
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: Tyler won't ask it, so I'll ask it. He's a

755
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: big AJ blue ball guy. Tyler really likes AJ blue Ball.

756
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: He he is a starter in every sense. He's part

757
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: of the triple A rotation. Had made his major league

758
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: debut as a starter, has made some traditional starts, but

759
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: we saw him last year, come out of the bullpen,

760
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: and when he was able to run it up a

761
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: little bit, he got a little extra juice on it

762
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: when he knew he had little short spurts. Like the

763
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: stuff really really ticked up with the understanding that, like

764
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, everyone in that group is probably

765
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: gonna be stretched out in camp and then you guys

766
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: make some decisions, but maybe for the law long term

767
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: with aj blue ball kind of where where do you

768
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: think he profiles best?

769
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think you look at the the player.

770
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: You look at the body, the long, leanness, the stuff,

771
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: the dots like he's a he's he's a starting pitcher,

772
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 2: but you know, if team need requires it, he's shown

773
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: that he can be a reliever. And and you know,

774
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: the stuff was was great last year in September, you

775
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: know it was it was dynamite to see him come

776
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: up and have success, especially his his major league debut.

777
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: He threw the ball so well and was really dragged

778
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: by Like the last battery faced was a Crawford Box

779
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Grand slam on an executed slider. It was like, oh man,

780
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: you know it's it was a tough one to feel,

781
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: but I'm glad he was able to get back to

782
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: the big leagues last year and find some success because

783
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: he is a great kid, somebody to root for. You know,

784
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I'd expect he's gonna he's gonna play a role on

785
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: our team this year. Whatever role that is will will

786
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: be determined, But you know I expect from Aj, whether

787
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: that's as a starting pitcher or really mm hmm.

788
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chandler is a hater. I don't know why. It's

789
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: very rude of him. Part of it is because I

790
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: have a very soft spot in my heart for Brad Peacock.

791
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Uh and and blue Ball reminds me a lot of him.

792
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: Through ninety eight change ups last year, did not give

793
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: up a hit on one. It's pretty good. Uh So

794
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure he'll find a spot somewhere.

795
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick before we let you go. Because everyone

796
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: loves prospects. I think the one, the one pitching prospect

797
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: internally from you guys that I think draws a lot

798
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: of attention is Miguel Yoa, who was on the forty

799
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: man who got protected. He's on the forty man roster now.

800
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: So we'll be in camp, in big league camp. Last

801
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: year in big league camp, maybe struggled a little bit

802
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: to find the strike zone was and that's kind of

803
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: been the The knock on him a little bit is

804
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: that he does not throw a ton of strikes, but

805
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: the stuff's elite. What are you expecting to see from again,

806
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: maybe in his second big league camp, maybe he his

807
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: minds at ease a little bit more. He's maybe not

808
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: going to be overthrowing as much. Kind of what do

809
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: you expect to see from him? And what what future

810
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: do you think? He has?

811
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, really special fastball, similar career arc to Christian Javier

812
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues, you know, really tough to hit,

813
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: really good fastball, gets swings and misses. Maybe a little

814
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: bit radic with his command. We need to see that

815
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: improve a little bit. And he's aware he's making some changes.

816
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: They made some some changes during the season. Sean Buchanan,

817
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: our triple A pitching coach and him, you know, clean

818
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: some things up second half of the of the year

819
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: and and we saw some improvement. Expect him to hit

820
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: the ground running and maybe be a little more comfortable,

821
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: uh in in a big league camp environment. I'd expect

822
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: him to pitch on a starter schedule. But again, it's

823
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: a guy that could profile as a as a reliever,

824
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: depending on how things shake out and how things go.

825
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: But you know, he's, uh, he's got a special fastball,

826
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: he's got some some interesting secondary pitches. And you know,

827
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: the name the game is to be able to command

828
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: him and throw strikes and and minimize the walks and

829
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: that allow him to have success. And and you know

830
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna work to improve that that area.

831
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: You know, there's the saying is there's no such thing

832
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: as too much pitching. I think you guys proved that

833
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: last year. Do you know, off the top of your

834
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: head how many guys you had throw more than ten

835
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: innings for you last year?

836
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I know that. I know that, Like I guess,

837
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say, like twenty.

838
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: Twenty seven, twenty seven is exactly right. Twenty seven guys

839
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: through ten or more innings for the shows last year.

840
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: So that's not even counting our counting our best guy, which.

841
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: Was you lost your star reliever in Chas McCormick.

842
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Chas McCormick and says,

843
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: our salads are really and Cooper Hummel, you know, not

844
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: a great.

845
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: You got Sally back though, so yeah, hopefully you won't

846
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: need him.

847
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean that that just goes to show.

848
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: And I mean, as you know, opening day roster is

849
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: a snapshot. But there's twenty six total players on that roster.

850
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: You had twenty seven guys throw ten or more innings

851
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: last year, so it's it's not set in stone for sure.

852
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah before okay, really the last one before we let

853
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: you go, Josh, if I would have told you in

854
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when from ber Valdez comes to the big

855
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: leagues and you lay your eyes on him and you

856
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: get to see him that first year, if I would

857
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: have told you this guy's going to be a forty

858
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: million dollar a year pitcher in twenty eighteen, what would

859
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: you have said.

860
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: I would have been flabberg acid. I wouldn't have had

861
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: any words, wouldn't have any words. It was amazing. Forever

862
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: grateful for the things he did for the organization. Here

863
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: we go way back to Kassimi Florida when he came

864
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Speaker 2: over from the Dominican Complex announced in the minor league system,

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Speaker 2: tremendous worker, what a what a great picture. I'll be

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Speaker 2: rooting when he's not pitched against us, and hope good

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Speaker 2: things for Fever.

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Speaker 1: It's truly incredible. You know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen Fromber

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Speaker 1: was probably not I mean twenty nineteen there was a

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Speaker 1: case to be made. He was on the forty man roster,

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Speaker 1: chopping block, and then in the next five seasons had

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Speaker 1: a one twenty eight r A plus in nine hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy three innings and won a World Series clinching game.

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Speaker 1: For you, guys, it is he is. He embodies player

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Speaker 1: development success, and Josh, you are a big part of

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Speaker 1: that player development. Pitching development Fromber is at the top

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Speaker 1: of the list in terms of guys that you have

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Speaker 1: developed in, guys that you have nurtured through struggles early

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Speaker 1: and things like that. But you've got a ton of

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Speaker 1: those guys still on your roster Javier Hunter Brown, just

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Speaker 1: to name a few. But we really appreciate this. This

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Speaker 1: was great. I told you we keep you for twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes, and we kept you for forty three, so

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Speaker 1: that's my fault. Thank you again for taking time from

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Speaker 1: dyke in Park to join us. And before I know,

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Speaker 1: it's going to get busy as you get to wes Palm.

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Speaker 1: But this was great. We really appreciate you. Giving us

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Speaker 1: some insight to a new look Astro's pitching staff.

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Speaker 2: No problem, thanks guys. Nice talking to you as always. Guys.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Exit Chandler Underscore Room. You

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Speaker 1: we post a new video. We will be back later

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Speaker 1: this week with a more comprehensive preview, maybe of the

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Speaker 1: offensive side before we get to West Palm Beach, but

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Speaker 1: until then we will talk to you later.

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Speaker 3: Lagrasso is always greener on the other side. Bye.