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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in to another special edition of the website with

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Right podcast and YouTube shows. We continue our accountdown

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<v Speaker 2>in the special series the fifty Greatest Players of the

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<v Speaker 2>last fifty years of the NBA. If you have not

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<v Speaker 2>checked out this series previously, we have gone over the rules,

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<v Speaker 2>the honorable mentions, and we've gone players fifty through thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are now finally inside the top thirty. Next

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<v Speaker 2>week we'll get inside the top twenty five. Today we

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<v Speaker 2>are doing players twenty nine through twenty six, and there

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<v Speaker 2>is one guy who might be the most underrated, truly

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<v Speaker 2>great player of a generation is on this list. There

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<v Speaker 2>are two New York Knicks on this list, and one

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<v Speaker 2>guy who, and I say this in a loving way,

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the second greatest compiler in NBA history is

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<v Speaker 2>part of this little four sum but he was far

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<v Speaker 2>more than that. We will start, however, with number twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>the first of two Knicks to make the list today.

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<v Speaker 4>Number twenty nine Walt Frasier.

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<v Speaker 2>He is, of course, also the best dressed man in

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<v Speaker 2>sports broadcasting yours truly, notwithstanding his four time first Team

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA, two times Second Team All NBA, seven time

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<v Speaker 2>All Defense, and one Top five MBP finished however, so

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<v Speaker 2>that right there is a very good resume that is

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<v Speaker 2>not enough to get you inside the top thirty without

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<v Speaker 2>some bananas postseason results. Luckily for Walt Fraser, he has

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<v Speaker 2>exactly that, some amazing postseason results, including one could argue

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest Game seven in NBA playoff history. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>a two time champion and a three time finalist five

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<v Speaker 2>straight years he took the New York Knicks to the

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<v Speaker 2>conference finals. Or further, his career in the playoffs is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, six and seven. And keep in mind, he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing that while being one of the best defensive guards

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<v Speaker 2>of his era. That's the seven time All defense So

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<v Speaker 2>any of his offensive numbers you have to combine to

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he was an all time great perimeter defender.

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<v Speaker 2>But where he really made his name, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>was not just delivering the Knicks their first championship, but

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<v Speaker 2>the way in which he delivered it. The nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>finals Game five, critical, Games two two, he has twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>seven and twelve, and then everyone remembers the Willis Reid game.

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<v Speaker 2>Willis Reid for those folks that don't remember, and Demonsey's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna ask me what Fraser question here in a moment

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<v Speaker 2>You might probably not familiar with the Willis Reed story.

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<v Speaker 2>Willis Reid was arguably be the best player on these Knicks,

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<v Speaker 2>and Willis Reid had suffered an injury in the series

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't think he was gonna play Game seven,

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<v Speaker 2>And then he comes out for Game seven, makes the

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<v Speaker 2>first two baskets of the game and it set the

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<v Speaker 2>tenor for the entire game. What people don't remember about

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<v Speaker 2>that game is those were the only two baskets Willis

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<v Speaker 2>Reed made. So why did the Knicks end up winning

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<v Speaker 2>the championship? Why did they end up beating in that series?

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlain a great Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>team because in that Game seven, Walt Frazier had thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six points, seven rebounds, and nineteen assists thirty six, seven

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<v Speaker 2>and nineteen in a Game seven of the finals against

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<v Speaker 2>three guys who, if this list weren't was in the

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<v Speaker 2>last fifty years, but was all time NBA history. West, Baylor, Baylor,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chamberlain. Those are three of the thirty greatest players

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<v Speaker 2>ever and in West and Wilt two of the ten

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<v Speaker 2>or twelve greatest players ever. He did that with no

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<v Speaker 2>Willis Reed, then makes the finals in nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 2>goes thirty one to seven and two in a Game

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<v Speaker 2>five loss. For the series averages twenty three, eight, and

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<v Speaker 2>eight are nearly sixty percent shooting. Making the finals without

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<v Speaker 2>Willis Reid, but lost to the Lakers. That Lakers team,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, someone argues the greatest team ever the

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two Lakers. They had a thirty three game winning

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<v Speaker 2>streak during that season, and they beat Kareem at a

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<v Speaker 2>young Kareem, but that was almost apex scream to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the finals, and the fact that Knicks team didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get swept by that Lakers team as a testament to

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<v Speaker 2>Walt Frazer. And then in the very next year wins

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<v Speaker 2>another title. But the real toughest test was the Conference

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<v Speaker 2>finals against Boston. He's thirty seven, nine to four in

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<v Speaker 2>Game four of that series in fifty seven minutes fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seven minutes double overtime, game sat one minute, three to

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<v Speaker 2>one in the series play fifty seven minutes gave you

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven nine to four, then twenty five, ten and

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<v Speaker 2>seven in Game seven. Over the final four games of

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<v Speaker 2>that series, he averaged forty nine minutes per game. Final

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<v Speaker 2>four games of the NBA or final five games part

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<v Speaker 2>of me. The NBA Finals for the series average twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>seven and six. So listen, Willis Reid. I that was

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<v Speaker 2>in the conference finals. They ended up winning the championship

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<v Speaker 2>in the finals. He's good but not great. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he got absolutely screwed out of finals MVP in nineteen seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Game seven alone should have gotten it

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<v Speaker 2>for him. They gave it to Willis Reid. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six, seven and nineteen it's the greatest Game seven

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<v Speaker 2>per one for respect to James worthing respect to Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the greatest Game seven performance NBA Finals history. He

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<v Speaker 2>is the twenty ninth greatest player of the last fifty years. Demonse,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your question?

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<v Speaker 5>This is a perfect example of the guy that you

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<v Speaker 5>respect way too much, all because he won a title.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, don't get me wrong, he was great or was

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<v Speaker 2>he better than the glove?

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<v Speaker 5>Like you know, Peyton did everything he did, but just longer,

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<v Speaker 5>and like you know, he never got to the championship

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<v Speaker 5>because there was this guy named Michael Jordan over there,

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<v Speaker 5>and like I think he might be so high on

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<v Speaker 5>the list just because he simply won titles with the Knicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, so listen. Maybe some people overrate titles with

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<v Speaker 2>the Knicks. I'm not one of those people. Gary Payton

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<v Speaker 2>is a good comp because Gary Payton was an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>two way guard as well. But yes, it is because

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<v Speaker 2>he has the titles and Gary doesn't. If Gary Payton

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly got to the NBA Finals and got denied by Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>so be it. But Gary Payton was getting denied by

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<v Speaker 2>Karl Malone. Who's getting denied by a team. He only

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<v Speaker 2>got to the finals one time. Walt Fraser got there

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<v Speaker 2>three times, won two titles. I'm very comfortable with him

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<v Speaker 2>being ahead of Gary Payton. Some would argue he should

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<v Speaker 2>be ahead of Number twenty eight, who's another New York Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>This New York Knick also got denied by Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>never won a title.

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<v Speaker 4>Number twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Ewing's Patrick Ewing's resident, one time first Team All NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>six times second Team All NBA and quick sidebar on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I got very upset a few weeks ago about the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA changing the rules and allowing you to put two

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<v Speaker 2>centers Jokic and indeed on first Team All NBA. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfect example why because if they by changing

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<v Speaker 2>the rules, it now makes Ewing look worse because Ewing

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, that was only first Team All NBA once,

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<v Speaker 2>Well that was because you could there was only he

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<v Speaker 2>was playing against the team David Robinson, Shaquille O'Neill. At

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<v Speaker 2>some point later in his career, there's only one center.

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<v Speaker 2>But now if it's going to be multiple centers making,

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<v Speaker 2>then his six times second Team All NBA doesn't look

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<v Speaker 2>as good. Three time All Defensive Team, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a little low. Best player on a final has two

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<v Speaker 2>finals appearances, six times he was top five MVP finishes

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<v Speaker 2>career twenty one to ten. Only twelve guys in the

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<v Speaker 2>last fifty years have been twenty in ten guys seventh

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<v Speaker 2>on the all time blocks list. Now the knock on

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<v Speaker 2>Youwing historically has been not great in the postseason, and

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<v Speaker 2>while he did come up short in some postseasons, it's

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<v Speaker 2>got we gloss over what he did great in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>So I already told you you went to two finals.

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<v Speaker 2>The best player on one finalist the second finals, he

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<v Speaker 2>got injured right before sweating in to play it. Career

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs twenty and ten in the playoffs, so

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<v Speaker 2>everyone says I came to to the playoffs twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>ten career playoff average. Only ten guys in the last

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years have done that. His first career playoff victory,

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<v Speaker 2>he gave you thirty one and ten against Boston in

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight. In eighty nine against Chicago and Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>dropped thirty two and eleven facing elimination, and then in

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<v Speaker 2>game six of that series gave you twenty two thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>six assists, three blocks, two steals. Buddies up against Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan drops forty nineteen ninety Game four in the first

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<v Speaker 2>round against Larry Bird in Boston forty four thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>five with seven blocks and two steals to even the

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<v Speaker 2>series at two apiece. Averaged thirty six, thirteen and five

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<v Speaker 2>after falling down two to Burden mcale, including thirty one, eight,

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<v Speaker 2>ten and four to beat them and win the series. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a lesser burden mcale, but still carried that

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<v Speaker 2>next team the next round. In the only game they

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<v Speaker 2>won against Detroit, the soon to be champion Pistons, he

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<v Speaker 2>had forty five thirteen and six. Then in ninety two

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<v Speaker 2>to beat Detroit gives you thirty one to nineteen to

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<v Speaker 2>knock them out of the postseason, and then Game one

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<v Speaker 2>against the Bulls and Michael Jordan thirty four sixteen, five assists,

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<v Speaker 2>one block, six steals, and then thirty three and nine

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<v Speaker 2>in the game five that they lost. That ninety two

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<v Speaker 2>team was a great team, but not good enough obviously

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<v Speaker 2>to beat the ninety two Bulls, one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>teams ever. Some would argue that was the best Bulls team,

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<v Speaker 2>not the ninety six Bulls. Ninety four to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the finals, to beat Chicago in Game seven eighteen seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>and six in twenty four, twenty two and seven with

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<v Speaker 2>five steals in Game seven to beat Indy and make

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<v Speaker 2>his first finals. So the reason I'm giving you these

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<v Speaker 2>individual games with viewing is there is this myth he

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<v Speaker 2>never came up big. He had big Game seven to

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<v Speaker 2>beat Chicago, a big Game seven to beat Indy, and

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<v Speaker 2>then come the finals, the team dominated. There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>around it. But a team is going to show up very,

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<v Speaker 2>very high on this list. And then in ninety seven

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<v Speaker 2>got totally screwed. That was the year PJ. Brown body

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<v Speaker 2>slam Charlie Ward all the Knicks gets suspended for coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench. So Ewing misses Game six. Then he's

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<v Speaker 2>back for Game seven, for some of his teammates are

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<v Speaker 2>suspending for Game seven. In that game seven is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and seventeen, but they lost, and then he blows

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<v Speaker 2>his achilles in ninety nine. Only has one other great

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game twenty and seven, in a Game seven against

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<v Speaker 2>Miami in two thousand, the Eastern Gonment semifinals. So the

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<v Speaker 2>reason I gave you those individual games, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to is because we can't act like Ewing

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<v Speaker 2>never came up big in the posts. Jordan beat him

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch, He got out played by a team. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are two of the greatest players in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>the game. But the idea that a guy who's just

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<v Speaker 2>one of ten guys in the last fifty years to

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<v Speaker 2>be twenty and ten in the playoffs whose careers are over,

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<v Speaker 2>there's other guys, more than ten guys on that list

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<v Speaker 2>that are active. We'll see if they stay on the

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<v Speaker 2>list when their career is over. The idea that Ewing

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<v Speaker 2>was a total playoff no show, I totally disagree with

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<v Speaker 2>diehard Knicks fan and buddy of mine, Rob Perez has

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<v Speaker 2>a comment about the Patrick Ewing ranking. I gave Rob

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<v Speaker 2>a look at the list, and not the full list,

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<v Speaker 2>but a good section of it. He's gonna mention a

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<v Speaker 2>few names that have not yet been revealed, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>obviously going to be somewhere on this list. We bleep

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<v Speaker 2>out where they actually are because Rob spoils it, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not supposed to. But here's Rob's issue with my

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Ewing rank.

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<v Speaker 6>Nick, you're continuing to be a prisoner of the moment.

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<v Speaker 6>Is going to make me jump out the window. You

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<v Speaker 6>have Patrick Ewing twenty eighth, while Carmelone and Charles Barkley

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<v Speaker 6>down John Stockton. Those are the four best players of

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<v Speaker 6>an entire generation that did not win a championship. It

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<v Speaker 6>should absolutely be grouped together the next win the ninety

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<v Speaker 6>two championship if Michael Jordan does not exist. Did you

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<v Speaker 6>watch those games? What was required from Patrick Ewing?

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<v Speaker 4>You nuts?

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the problem for Rob. I agree with him though,

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<v Speaker 2>and those guys, by the way, you're gonna hear Barkley

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<v Speaker 2>Malone in Stockton's names rolled off shortly. But of those

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<v Speaker 2>four guys. Ewing was the least impact. Ewing versus Stockton

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<v Speaker 2>is a close call. Ewing versus Barkley, and Ewing versus Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as I love Pat, not that close of

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<v Speaker 2>a call. Those guys were simply better. He's still, though,

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<v Speaker 2>was good enough with the twenty eighth Greatest Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Last fifty years, Number twenty seven, a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>all time records will shock you. He's next. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in What's Right with Nick Grey podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube show special edition fifty Greatest Players the Last fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years in the NBA. Let's just keep it moving. We

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get to one player here that all

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<v Speaker 2>of you remember, and one player that many of you

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure don't remember, but is one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>decorated playoff performers ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Number twenty seven Jason Kidd.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jason Kidd, five time first Team All NBA, one

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<v Speaker 2>time second Team All NBA, two Top five MVPs, including

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<v Speaker 2>one second place that a lot of people look back

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<v Speaker 2>on that one of Duncans and say kid maybe should

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<v Speaker 2>have won it. However, Duncan's team then eventually did play

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<v Speaker 2>kids team in the finals, and Duncan was utterly and

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<v Speaker 2>thoroughly dominant, So I think they probably got that right.

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<v Speaker 2>Five time assist champ. And then some of these Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Kidd records are just jaw drop. He has the second

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<v Speaker 2>most assists in NBA history. He has the second most

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<v Speaker 2>steals in NBA history. So to be right to where

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<v Speaker 2>he is and listen, he's behind Stockton on both those lists.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna know one. Some of Stockton's records are

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<v Speaker 2>so unbelievable. We'll get to Stockton later. Spoiler alert. You

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<v Speaker 2>know he hasn't been revealed. He's somewhere on this list,

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<v Speaker 2>but second is almost like first place because those records

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<v Speaker 2>are so unattainable. Jason Kidd second all time assists, second

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<v Speaker 2>all time steals, and as far as but you guys know,

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs matter a lot here. So what did Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Kidd do in the postseason?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>When he was he did win a championship. More on

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<v Speaker 2>that later, because he was a role player at that

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<v Speaker 2>point in his career. Bon he is the best player

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<v Speaker 2>on a team two time finalists, won the conference back

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<v Speaker 2>to back years as the best player on a team.

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<v Speaker 2>Three finals appearances total in the two thousand playoffs before

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<v Speaker 2>he gets to what is now Brooklyn, but then the

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey nets with Phoenix. He gives you twenty in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff run in two thousand for the only game

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<v Speaker 2>they win in the second round against the Lakers, the

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<v Speaker 2>Shank Kobe Lakers going to win the title. He's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two to ten with sixteen assists. Now what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see with kid when we go over it. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of singularly eye popping games. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just incredibly consistent throughout these playoff runs. So the two

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<v Speaker 2>run to the finals average for that playoff run twenty points,

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<v Speaker 2>eight rebounds, nine assists in order to make the first

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<v Speaker 2>to make his finals in the Eastern Conference finals, he

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<v Speaker 2>averaged eighteen, eleven and ten average a triple level to

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<v Speaker 2>make the first finals of his career and then in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals twenty one, seven and ten for those finals

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<v Speaker 2>against Shaq in Kobe and they of course lost. The

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<v Speaker 2>very next year, gets back to the finals averages for

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff run nineteen nine and nine, and then in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals twenty six and eight for they of course

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<v Speaker 2>lose to dunk in the Spurs. Now fast forward eight years,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty eleven maps folks like ah Jason Kidd, how

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<v Speaker 2>much did he matter? His numbers are not high popping

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<v Speaker 2>at all. However, he in those finals against Lebron, Wade

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<v Speaker 2>and Bosh, Jason Kidd played thirty seven minutes per game,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was I mean, not just a starter, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was playing minutes wise. Only Dirk was far and

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<v Speaker 2>away more than him on that map. Scene. Now, was

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<v Speaker 2>he the second best player on that map? Seemed clearly not. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he was that late in his career

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<v Speaker 2>still that relevant to be getting those many minutes for

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<v Speaker 2>a team that won the titles speaks volumes. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I said one of the greatest compilers ever, here's what

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<v Speaker 2>I meant. He had fifty career ten plus assist playoffers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the fifth most ever fifty ten or more assists playoffers.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the fourth most playoffsis ever and the seventh

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<v Speaker 2>most playoff steals ever. He's the twenty seventh greatest player

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<v Speaker 2>for the last fifty years. I think my guy Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Brussard has a comment on Jason Kidd. Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta be honest, I'd rather play with Jason Kidd,

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<v Speaker 7>but I don't think I can put him ahead of Ai.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, Yeah, I'd rather play with him, but

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<v Speaker 2>Ai was Ai.

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<v Speaker 4>AI is iconic.

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<v Speaker 7>AI was a four time scoring champion at my size.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta go with Ai. Hip hop and hoop legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, Nick, listen, brew Ai is more legendary than

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Kidd. AI is more culturally relevant, and one would argue,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would agree. AI's apex was high, but Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Kidd did it so much longer both of them. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as best career accomplishment was taking a team to

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<v Speaker 2>the finals. Kid did it twice. Ai did win the MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid came in second. I understand it, and Ai. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was thirty Jason Kids twenty seven, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a huge delta, but I think Jason Kidd was

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<v Speaker 2>better and certainly more impactful on winning and now a

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<v Speaker 2>history lesson for the kids out there. The oldest player

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<v Speaker 2>on this.

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<v Speaker 4>List, number twenty six, Rick Barry.

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<v Speaker 2>He did shoot his free throws underhanded, which makes him

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<v Speaker 2>seem older than he actually is. As Demanse looks at

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<v Speaker 2>me and rolls his eyes. Okay, listen, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>sway you on this with these numbers, right, So he's

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<v Speaker 2>five time first Team All NBA, one time second Team

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<v Speaker 2>All NBA, and four time First Team All ABA. Because

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<v Speaker 2>his career started in the NBA, he then sued to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go play somewhere else. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>was a mess. Went to the ABA, then went back

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Three top five MVP finishes in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>three top five MVP finishes in the ABA. In the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>won a scoring title that year. He averaged thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>points per game. He is the all time leader in

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<v Speaker 2>the ABA in points per game in the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>in the regular season. Won Rookie of the Year in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, and a career average of twenty five to

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<v Speaker 2>seven and five. Okay, but the playoffs are where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to Sweden. I'm looking at Demonse right now. He

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<v Speaker 2>is wincing camp. But this picture again showing him shooting

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<v Speaker 2>the underhand free throws not the greatest thing ever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>career in the playoffs twenty seven points per game. He

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<v Speaker 2>is the all time leader for points per game in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA finals, more than Michael, more than Lebron, more

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<v Speaker 2>than Will the all time leader. He was the best

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<v Speaker 2>player on three finalists. He won one title, one finals, MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>ABA and NBA included. He has seventeen forty point playoff

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<v Speaker 2>games and three fifty point playoff games. So nineteen sixixty

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<v Speaker 2>seven first real playoff run average for the playoff run

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four, eight and four in the finals, which they lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Averaged forty one nine and three down two in the

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<v Speaker 2>finals in nineteen sixty seven before he left for the ABA,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five twelve and five game six to try to

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<v Speaker 2>stay alive. They end up losing by three throws up

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<v Speaker 2>forty four points. He then leaves and goes to the ABA.

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<v Speaker 2>In the ABA nineteen seventy averaged forty and ten in

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<v Speaker 2>round one and lost in seven and in that game

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<v Speaker 2>seven scored fifty two points. Nineteen seventy one. The very

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<v Speaker 2>next year they losing round one again, what does he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Averages thirty four to twelve and four including game six,

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<v Speaker 2>So the previous year they losing game seventy scores fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>This year they losing game six, he scores forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So the very next year, how does the playoffs start

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<v Speaker 2>for him? A fifty point game averages for the playoff

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<v Speaker 2>run thirty one, seven and four gets the finals in

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<v Speaker 2>the ABA and loses. Now he's back in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen seventy five. Let's go through it because it's pretty legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen seventy five. First game of the playoffs thirty nine points,

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<v Speaker 2>five rebounds, eleven assists, and eight blocks. Thirty nine, five,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and eight to start the playoffs. Western Conference Finals,

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<v Speaker 2>first game thirty eight points, five rebounds, for assists, five blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>When he's down three to two in the Western Conference Finals,

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<v Speaker 2>not only come back and win in Game six thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six points, eight rebounds, three assists, seven blocks. And then

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<v Speaker 2>in the finals against Elvin Hayes. You've heard on this list,

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<v Speaker 2>Wes unseldom missed it. He sweeps the Bullets, sweeps them.

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<v Speaker 2>And in those finals Game two, thirty six points, nine rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>four assists, three two blocks, Game Game three thirty eight points,

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<v Speaker 2>four rebound, six assists, five steals, one block. Games two

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<v Speaker 2>and three in the finals. Yeah, underhand free throw shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>He shot ninety percent shooting on your hand. I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>it's more accurate. It is more accurate, But no, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>too prideful to do it. So listen. He was nobody

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<v Speaker 2>liked Rick Berry. He was like, he's got two sons

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<v Speaker 2>that are in the league or were in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh John and Brent uh and now they're broadcasters.

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<v Speaker 2>He's people. He seemed to really rub people the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>His If you go to his Wikipedia page, it has

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<v Speaker 2>so clearly been edited by someone close to him or

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<v Speaker 2>him himself that it has a disclaimer on here that

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<v Speaker 2>this page cannot be verified by Wikipedia, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the wiki page, everything in there, any disputy

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<v Speaker 2>has it's like, actually, the true story is Rick was

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<v Speaker 2>doing this and doing that. There was a moment in

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<v Speaker 2>a playoff game where he got fight and none of

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<v Speaker 2>his teammates came to his age, and people really didn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to like him. But the guy, the guy again,

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<v Speaker 2>I just went over that. His playoff resume is really

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<v Speaker 2>really spectacular. He's the twenty sixth best player of the

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<v Speaker 2>last fIF years. He's the oldest guy on our list.

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<v Speaker 2>One Rick Berry. Here's a different Rick with a Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Berry comic personality.

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<v Speaker 7>Wise, Rick Barry wouldn't make your top one thousand, But

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<v Speaker 7>as a player, he's right there with Jerry West. And

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<v Speaker 7>I don't say that make that comp just because they're

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<v Speaker 7>both white, but because they had very similar games, very

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<v Speaker 7>complete games at both ends of the floor. So I

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<v Speaker 7>would have him right up there with Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so listen, I respect Rick Nuker there and Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>West obviously is too old to be eligible for this list.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jerry West is a different tier than Rick Berry.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry West, poor guy lost eight straight finals career, one

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<v Speaker 2>to eight in the finals, just kept losing to the Celtics,

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<v Speaker 2>kept going to the finals, and kept losing to the Celtics.

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<v Speaker 2>Then finally won finally one in seventy two, the team

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about before. But Jerry West also had

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<v Speaker 2>I again a little respect for Jerry West here. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to I'm mentioning he lost all those finals.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry West in the sixty two finals losing seven, average

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one again Jerry West. The next year finals, losing six.

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<v Speaker 2>They just kept losing to Bill Russell. Averaged thirty a game,

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry West. He then missed the finals one year. The

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<v Speaker 2>next year in the sixty five finals, losing five, average

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four a game. The very next year he's back

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<v Speaker 2>in the finals, losing seven again average thirty four a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Two years later he's back in the finals, losing six

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<v Speaker 2>to Boston average thirty one again one of these finals,

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<v Speaker 2>he averaged forty some points and loss. I can't find it,

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<v Speaker 2>but listen, he as Jerry West is as great as

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Barry was. Jerry West was better. That's the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the Jerry West segment. That probably means we've spent

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<v Speaker 2>too much time on the Rick Berry segment. Nothing says

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<v Speaker 2>ratings bonanza like talking about players older than the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>guy on our list. Will be right now? All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that just about does it for today's edition of the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty Best Players last fifty years. We've now given you

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<v Speaker 2>players fifty through twenty six. So next week we get

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<v Speaker 2>into the top twenty five players of the last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're still listening, that means you did make

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<v Speaker 2>it through eight minutes of Rick Berry with a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of Jerry West talk mixed in. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>My promise to you is not only will next week

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<v Speaker 2>be more contemporary players. Next week we'll have at least

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<v Speaker 2>one current active player I think the only active player. No,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had two active players so far that have been

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<v Speaker 2>on this list three Carmelo Anthony Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have another active player, Russell Wilsborth. We've had four.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about Russell, thank you to mose So. But

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<v Speaker 2>we will have another active player, at least one Dwight Howard.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had five. Okay, I'm doing a terrible job remembering

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<v Speaker 2>my own list. Doesn't matter. The point is we will

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<v Speaker 2>have another, at least one more active player on next

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<v Speaker 2>week's week's list, plus one man who has some records

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<v Speaker 2>that will simply never be broken, no longer how long

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<v Speaker 2>the game is played. All that's next week on the

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<v Speaker 2>What's Right with the Great podcast is to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>countdown of the fifty best players for the last fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years in the NBA