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If you have not 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: checked out this series previously, we have gone over the rules, 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: the honorable mentions, and we've gone players fifty through thirty. 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: So we are now finally inside the top thirty. Next 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: week we'll get inside the top twenty five. Today we 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: are doing players twenty nine through twenty six, and there 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: is one guy who might be the most underrated, truly 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: great player of a generation is on this list. There 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: are two New York Knicks on this list, and one 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: guy who, and I say this in a loving way, 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: is probably the second greatest compiler in NBA history is 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: part of this little four sum but he was far 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: more than that. We will start, however, with number twenty nine, 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: the first of two Knicks to make the list today. 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: Number twenty nine Walt Frasier. 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: He is, of course, also the best dressed man in 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: sports broadcasting yours truly, notwithstanding his four time first Team 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: All NBA, two times Second Team All NBA, seven time 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: All Defense, and one Top five MBP finished however, so 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: that right there is a very good resume that is 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: not enough to get you inside the top thirty without 44 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: some bananas postseason results. Luckily for Walt Fraser, he has 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: exactly that, some amazing postseason results, including one could argue 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: the greatest Game seven in NBA playoff history. So he's 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: a two time champion and a three time finalist five 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: straight years he took the New York Knicks to the 49 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: conference finals. Or further, his career in the playoffs is 50 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: twenty one, six and seven. And keep in mind, he's 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: doing that while being one of the best defensive guards 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: of his era. That's the seven time All defense So 53 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: any of his offensive numbers you have to combine to 54 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: the fact that he was an all time great perimeter defender. 55 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: But where he really made his name, if you will, 56 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: was not just delivering the Knicks their first championship, but 57 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: the way in which he delivered it. The nineteen seventy 58 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: finals Game five, critical, Games two two, he has twenty one, 59 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: seven and twelve, and then everyone remembers the Willis Reid game. 60 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Willis Reid for those folks that don't remember, and Demonsey's 61 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: gonna ask me what Fraser question here in a moment 62 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: You might probably not familiar with the Willis Reed story. 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Willis Reid was arguably be the best player on these Knicks, 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: and Willis Reid had suffered an injury in the series 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: and they didn't think he was gonna play Game seven, 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: And then he comes out for Game seven, makes the 67 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: first two baskets of the game and it set the 68 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: tenor for the entire game. What people don't remember about 69 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: that game is those were the only two baskets Willis 70 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Reed made. So why did the Knicks end up winning 71 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: the championship? Why did they end up beating in that series? 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlain a great Lakers 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: team because in that Game seven, Walt Frazier had thirty 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: six points, seven rebounds, and nineteen assists thirty six, seven 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: and nineteen in a Game seven of the finals against 76 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: three guys who, if this list weren't was in the 77 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: last fifty years, but was all time NBA history. West, Baylor, Baylor, 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: and Chamberlain. Those are three of the thirty greatest players 79 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: ever and in West and Wilt two of the ten 80 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: or twelve greatest players ever. He did that with no 81 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: Willis Reed, then makes the finals in nineteen seventy two, 82 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: goes thirty one to seven and two in a Game 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: five loss. For the series averages twenty three, eight, and 84 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: eight are nearly sixty percent shooting. Making the finals without 85 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Willis Reid, but lost to the Lakers. That Lakers team, 86 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: by the way, someone argues the greatest team ever the 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: seventy two Lakers. They had a thirty three game winning 88 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: streak during that season, and they beat Kareem at a 89 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: young Kareem, but that was almost apex scream to get 90 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: to the finals, and the fact that Knicks team didn't 91 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: get swept by that Lakers team as a testament to 92 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: Walt Frazer. And then in the very next year wins 93 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: another title. But the real toughest test was the Conference 94 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: finals against Boston. He's thirty seven, nine to four in 95 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: Game four of that series in fifty seven minutes fifty 96 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: seven minutes double overtime, game sat one minute, three to 97 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: one in the series play fifty seven minutes gave you 98 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: thirty seven nine to four, then twenty five, ten and 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: seven in Game seven. Over the final four games of 100 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: that series, he averaged forty nine minutes per game. Final 101 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: four games of the NBA or final five games part 102 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: of me. The NBA Finals for the series average twenty six, 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: seven and six. So listen, Willis Reid. I that was 104 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: in the conference finals. They ended up winning the championship 105 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: in the finals. He's good but not great. I thought 106 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 2: he got absolutely screwed out of finals MVP in nineteen seventy. 107 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: I thought the Game seven alone should have gotten it 108 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: for him. They gave it to Willis Reid. But the 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: thirty six, seven and nineteen it's the greatest Game seven 110 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: per one for respect to James worthing respect to Lebron James, 111 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: it's the greatest Game seven performance NBA Finals history. He 112 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: is the twenty ninth greatest player of the last fifty years. Demonse, 113 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: what's your question? 114 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 5: This is a perfect example of the guy that you 115 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: respect way too much, all because he won a title. 116 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: Okay, don't get me wrong, he was great or was 117 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: he better than the glove? 118 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 5: Like you know, Peyton did everything he did, but just longer, 119 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: and like you know, he never got to the championship 120 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 5: because there was this guy named Michael Jordan over there, 121 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: and like I think he might be so high on 122 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 5: the list just because he simply won titles with the Knicks. 123 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so listen. Maybe some people overrate titles with 124 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: the Knicks. I'm not one of those people. Gary Payton 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: is a good comp because Gary Payton was an amazing 126 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: two way guard as well. But yes, it is because 127 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: he has the titles and Gary doesn't. If Gary Payton 128 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: repeatedly got to the NBA Finals and got denied by Jordan, 129 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: so be it. But Gary Payton was getting denied by 130 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Karl Malone. Who's getting denied by a team. He only 131 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: got to the finals one time. Walt Fraser got there 132 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: three times, won two titles. I'm very comfortable with him 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: being ahead of Gary Payton. Some would argue he should 134 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: be ahead of Number twenty eight, who's another New York Nick. 135 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: This New York Knick also got denied by Michael Jordan 136 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: never won a title. 137 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: Number twenty eight. 138 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing's Patrick Ewing's resident, one time first Team All NBA, 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: six times second Team All NBA and quick sidebar on this. 140 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: I got very upset a few weeks ago about the 141 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: NBA changing the rules and allowing you to put two 142 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: centers Jokic and indeed on first Team All NBA. This 143 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: is a perfect example why because if they by changing 144 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: the rules, it now makes Ewing look worse because Ewing 145 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, that was only first Team All NBA once, 146 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: Well that was because you could there was only he 147 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: was playing against the team David Robinson, Shaquille O'Neill. At 148 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: some point later in his career, there's only one center. 149 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: But now if it's going to be multiple centers making, 150 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: then his six times second Team All NBA doesn't look 151 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: as good. Three time All Defensive Team, I think that's 152 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: a little low. Best player on a final has two 153 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: finals appearances, six times he was top five MVP finishes 154 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: career twenty one to ten. Only twelve guys in the 155 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: last fifty years have been twenty in ten guys seventh 156 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: on the all time blocks list. Now the knock on 157 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: Youwing historically has been not great in the postseason, and 158 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: while he did come up short in some postseasons, it's 159 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: got we gloss over what he did great in the postseason. 160 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: So I already told you you went to two finals. 161 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: The best player on one finalist the second finals, he 162 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: got injured right before sweating in to play it. Career 163 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: in the playoffs twenty and ten in the playoffs, so 164 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: everyone says I came to to the playoffs twenty and 165 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: ten career playoff average. Only ten guys in the last 166 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: fifty years have done that. His first career playoff victory, 167 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: he gave you thirty one and ten against Boston in 168 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: eighty eight. In eighty nine against Chicago and Michael Jordan 169 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: dropped thirty two and eleven facing elimination, and then in 170 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: game six of that series gave you twenty two thirteen, 171 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: six assists, three blocks, two steals. Buddies up against Michael Jordan. 172 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: Jordan drops forty nineteen ninety Game four in the first 173 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: round against Larry Bird in Boston forty four thirty and 174 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: five with seven blocks and two steals to even the 175 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: series at two apiece. Averaged thirty six, thirteen and five 176 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: after falling down two to Burden mcale, including thirty one, eight, 177 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: ten and four to beat them and win the series. Now, 178 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: that was a lesser burden mcale, but still carried that 179 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: next team the next round. In the only game they 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: won against Detroit, the soon to be champion Pistons, he 181 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: had forty five thirteen and six. Then in ninety two 182 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: to beat Detroit gives you thirty one to nineteen to 183 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 2: knock them out of the postseason, and then Game one 184 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: against the Bulls and Michael Jordan thirty four sixteen, five assists, 185 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: one block, six steals, and then thirty three and nine 186 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: in the game five that they lost. That ninety two 187 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: team was a great team, but not good enough obviously 188 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: to beat the ninety two Bulls, one of the greatest 189 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: teams ever. Some would argue that was the best Bulls team, 190 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: not the ninety six Bulls. Ninety four to get to 191 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: the finals, to beat Chicago in Game seven eighteen seventeen 192 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: and six in twenty four, twenty two and seven with 193 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 2: five steals in Game seven to beat Indy and make 194 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: his first finals. So the reason I'm giving you these 195 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: individual games with viewing is there is this myth he 196 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: never came up big. He had big Game seven to 197 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: beat Chicago, a big Game seven to beat Indy, and 198 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: then come the finals, the team dominated. There's no way 199 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: around it. But a team is going to show up very, 200 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: very high on this list. And then in ninety seven 201 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: got totally screwed. That was the year PJ. Brown body 202 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: slam Charlie Ward all the Knicks gets suspended for coming 203 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: off the bench. So Ewing misses Game six. Then he's 204 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: back for Game seven, for some of his teammates are 205 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: suspending for Game seven. In that game seven is thirty 206 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: seven and seventeen, but they lost, and then he blows 207 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: his achilles in ninety nine. Only has one other great 208 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: playoff game twenty and seven, in a Game seven against 209 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Miami in two thousand, the Eastern Gonment semifinals. So the 210 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: reason I gave you those individual games, and I think 211 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: it's important to is because we can't act like Ewing 212 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: never came up big in the posts. Jordan beat him 213 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: a bunch, He got out played by a team. Those 214 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: are two of the greatest players in the history of 215 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: the game. But the idea that a guy who's just 216 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: one of ten guys in the last fifty years to 217 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: be twenty and ten in the playoffs whose careers are over, 218 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: there's other guys, more than ten guys on that list 219 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: that are active. We'll see if they stay on the 220 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: list when their career is over. The idea that Ewing 221 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: was a total playoff no show, I totally disagree with 222 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: diehard Knicks fan and buddy of mine, Rob Perez has 223 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: a comment about the Patrick Ewing ranking. I gave Rob 224 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: a look at the list, and not the full list, 225 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: but a good section of it. He's gonna mention a 226 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: few names that have not yet been revealed, but they're 227 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: obviously going to be somewhere on this list. We bleep 228 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: out where they actually are because Rob spoils it, which 229 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: is not supposed to. But here's Rob's issue with my 230 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing rank. 231 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 6: Nick, you're continuing to be a prisoner of the moment. 232 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 6: Is going to make me jump out the window. You 233 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 6: have Patrick Ewing twenty eighth, while Carmelone and Charles Barkley 234 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 6: down John Stockton. Those are the four best players of 235 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 6: an entire generation that did not win a championship. It 236 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 6: should absolutely be grouped together the next win the ninety 237 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 6: two championship if Michael Jordan does not exist. Did you 238 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 6: watch those games? What was required from Patrick Ewing? 239 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: You nuts? 240 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: So here's the problem for Rob. I agree with him though, 241 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: and those guys, by the way, you're gonna hear Barkley 242 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: Malone in Stockton's names rolled off shortly. But of those 243 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: four guys. Ewing was the least impact. Ewing versus Stockton 244 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: is a close call. Ewing versus Barkley, and Ewing versus Malone. 245 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: As much as I love Pat, not that close of 246 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: a call. Those guys were simply better. He's still, though, 247 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: was good enough with the twenty eighth Greatest Player of 248 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: the Last fifty years, Number twenty seven, a guy who's 249 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: all time records will shock you. He's next. All right, 250 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's Right with Nick Grey podcast and 251 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: YouTube show special edition fifty Greatest Players the Last fifty 252 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: years in the NBA. Let's just keep it moving. We 253 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: are going to get to one player here that all 254 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: of you remember, and one player that many of you 255 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure don't remember, but is one of the most 256 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: decorated playoff performers ever. 257 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: Number twenty seven Jason Kidd. 258 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: So Jason Kidd, five time first Team All NBA, one 259 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: time second Team All NBA, two Top five MVPs, including 260 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: one second place that a lot of people look back 261 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: on that one of Duncans and say kid maybe should 262 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: have won it. However, Duncan's team then eventually did play 263 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: kids team in the finals, and Duncan was utterly and 264 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: thoroughly dominant, So I think they probably got that right. 265 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: Five time assist champ. And then some of these Jason 266 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: Kidd records are just jaw drop. He has the second 267 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: most assists in NBA history. He has the second most 268 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: steals in NBA history. So to be right to where 269 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: he is and listen, he's behind Stockton on both those lists. 270 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: He's not gonna know one. Some of Stockton's records are 271 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: so unbelievable. We'll get to Stockton later. Spoiler alert. You 272 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: know he hasn't been revealed. He's somewhere on this list, 273 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: but second is almost like first place because those records 274 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: are so unattainable. Jason Kidd second all time assists, second 275 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: all time steals, and as far as but you guys know, 276 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: the playoffs matter a lot here. So what did Jason 277 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: Kidd do in the postseason? 278 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: All right? 279 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: When he was he did win a championship. More on 280 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: that later, because he was a role player at that 281 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: point in his career. Bon he is the best player 282 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: on a team two time finalists, won the conference back 283 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: to back years as the best player on a team. 284 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: Three finals appearances total in the two thousand playoffs before 285 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: he gets to what is now Brooklyn, but then the 286 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: New Jersey nets with Phoenix. He gives you twenty in 287 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: the playoff run in two thousand for the only game 288 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: they win in the second round against the Lakers, the 289 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: Shank Kobe Lakers going to win the title. He's twenty 290 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: two to ten with sixteen assists. Now what you're gonna 291 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: see with kid when we go over it. He didn't 292 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of singularly eye popping games. It was 293 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: just incredibly consistent throughout these playoff runs. So the two 294 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: run to the finals average for that playoff run twenty points, 295 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: eight rebounds, nine assists in order to make the first 296 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: to make his finals in the Eastern Conference finals, he 297 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: averaged eighteen, eleven and ten average a triple level to 298 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: make the first finals of his career and then in 299 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: the finals twenty one, seven and ten for those finals 300 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: against Shaq in Kobe and they of course lost. The 301 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: very next year, gets back to the finals averages for 302 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: the playoff run nineteen nine and nine, and then in 303 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: the finals twenty six and eight for they of course 304 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: lose to dunk in the Spurs. Now fast forward eight years, 305 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: the twenty eleven maps folks like ah Jason Kidd, how 306 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: much did he matter? His numbers are not high popping 307 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: at all. However, he in those finals against Lebron, Wade 308 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: and Bosh, Jason Kidd played thirty seven minutes per game, 309 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: so he was I mean, not just a starter, but 310 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: he was playing minutes wise. Only Dirk was far and 311 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: away more than him on that map. Scene. Now, was 312 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: he the second best player on that map? Seemed clearly not. However, 313 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: the fact that he was that late in his career 314 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: still that relevant to be getting those many minutes for 315 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: a team that won the titles speaks volumes. And when 316 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: I said one of the greatest compilers ever, here's what 317 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: I meant. He had fifty career ten plus assist playoffers. 318 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: That's the fifth most ever fifty ten or more assists playoffers. 319 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: He is the fourth most playoffsis ever and the seventh 320 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: most playoff steals ever. He's the twenty seventh greatest player 321 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: for the last fifty years. I think my guy Chris 322 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 2: Brussard has a comment on Jason Kidd. Let's hear it. 323 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 7: I gotta be honest, I'd rather play with Jason Kidd, 324 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 7: but I don't think I can put him ahead of Ai. 325 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean again, Yeah, I'd rather play with him, but 326 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: Ai was Ai. 327 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: AI is iconic. 328 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 7: AI was a four time scoring champion at my size. 329 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: I gotta go with Ai. Hip hop and hoop legend. 330 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: Come on, Nick, listen, brew Ai is more legendary than 331 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: Jason Kidd. AI is more culturally relevant, and one would argue, 332 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: and I would agree. AI's apex was high, but Jason 333 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: Kidd did it so much longer both of them. As 334 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: far as best career accomplishment was taking a team to 335 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: the finals. Kid did it twice. Ai did win the MVP. 336 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: Kid came in second. I understand it, and Ai. I 337 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: think it was thirty Jason Kids twenty seven, so it's 338 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: not a huge delta, but I think Jason Kidd was 339 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 2: better and certainly more impactful on winning and now a 340 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: history lesson for the kids out there. The oldest player 341 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: on this. 342 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: List, number twenty six, Rick Barry. 343 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: He did shoot his free throws underhanded, which makes him 344 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: seem older than he actually is. As Demanse looks at 345 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: me and rolls his eyes. Okay, listen, I'm going to 346 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: sway you on this with these numbers, right, So he's 347 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: five time first Team All NBA, one time second Team 348 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: All NBA, and four time First Team All ABA. Because 349 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: his career started in the NBA, he then sued to 350 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: be able to go play somewhere else. The whole thing 351 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: was a mess. Went to the ABA, then went back 352 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 2: all right. Three top five MVP finishes in the NBA, 353 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: three top five MVP finishes in the ABA. In the NBA, 354 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: won a scoring title that year. He averaged thirty six 355 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: points per game. He is the all time leader in 356 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: the ABA in points per game in the playoffs and 357 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: in the regular season. Won Rookie of the Year in 358 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: the NBA, and a career average of twenty five to 359 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: seven and five. Okay, but the playoffs are where I'm 360 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: going to Sweden. I'm looking at Demonse right now. He 361 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: is wincing camp. But this picture again showing him shooting 362 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: the underhand free throws not the greatest thing ever. Okay, 363 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: career in the playoffs twenty seven points per game. He 364 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 2: is the all time leader for points per game in 365 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: the NBA finals, more than Michael, more than Lebron, more 366 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: than Will the all time leader. He was the best 367 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: player on three finalists. He won one title, one finals, MVP, 368 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: ABA and NBA included. He has seventeen forty point playoff 369 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: games and three fifty point playoff games. So nineteen sixixty 370 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: seven first real playoff run average for the playoff run 371 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: thirty four, eight and four in the finals, which they lost. 372 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: Averaged forty one nine and three down two in the 373 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 2: finals in nineteen sixty seven before he left for the ABA, 374 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: fifty five twelve and five game six to try to 375 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: stay alive. They end up losing by three throws up 376 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: forty four points. He then leaves and goes to the ABA. 377 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: In the ABA nineteen seventy averaged forty and ten in 378 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: round one and lost in seven and in that game 379 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: seven scored fifty two points. Nineteen seventy one. The very 380 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: next year they losing round one again, what does he do? 381 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: Averages thirty four to twelve and four including game six, 382 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: So the previous year they losing game seventy scores fifty two. 383 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: This year they losing game six, he scores forty five. 384 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: So the very next year, how does the playoffs start 385 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: for him? A fifty point game averages for the playoff 386 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: run thirty one, seven and four gets the finals in 387 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: the ABA and loses. Now he's back in the NBA. 388 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy five. Let's go through it because it's pretty legend. 389 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy five. First game of the playoffs thirty nine points, 390 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: five rebounds, eleven assists, and eight blocks. Thirty nine, five, 391 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: eleven and eight to start the playoffs. Western Conference Finals, 392 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: first game thirty eight points, five rebounds, for assists, five blocks. 393 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: When he's down three to two in the Western Conference Finals, 394 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: not only come back and win in Game six thirty 395 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: six points, eight rebounds, three assists, seven blocks. And then 396 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: in the finals against Elvin Hayes. You've heard on this list, 397 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: Wes unseldom missed it. He sweeps the Bullets, sweeps them. 398 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: And in those finals Game two, thirty six points, nine rebounds, 399 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: four assists, three two blocks, Game Game three thirty eight points, 400 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: four rebound, six assists, five steals, one block. Games two 401 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: and three in the finals. Yeah, underhand free throw shooter. 402 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: He shot ninety percent shooting on your hand. I've heard 403 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: it's more accurate. It is more accurate, But no, everybody's 404 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: too prideful to do it. So listen. He was nobody 405 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: liked Rick Berry. He was like, he's got two sons 406 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: that are in the league or were in the league, 407 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: and uh John and Brent uh and now they're broadcasters. 408 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: He's people. He seemed to really rub people the wrong way. 409 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: His If you go to his Wikipedia page, it has 410 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: so clearly been edited by someone close to him or 411 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: him himself that it has a disclaimer on here that 412 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: this page cannot be verified by Wikipedia, because if you 413 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: go to the wiki page, everything in there, any disputy 414 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: has it's like, actually, the true story is Rick was 415 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: doing this and doing that. There was a moment in 416 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: a playoff game where he got fight and none of 417 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: his teammates came to his age, and people really didn't 418 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: seem to like him. But the guy, the guy again, 419 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: I just went over that. His playoff resume is really 420 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: really spectacular. He's the twenty sixth best player of the 421 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: last fIF years. He's the oldest guy on our list. 422 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: One Rick Berry. Here's a different Rick with a Rick 423 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: Berry comic personality. 424 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 7: Wise, Rick Barry wouldn't make your top one thousand, But 425 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 7: as a player, he's right there with Jerry West. And 426 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 7: I don't say that make that comp just because they're 427 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 7: both white, but because they had very similar games, very 428 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 7: complete games at both ends of the floor. So I 429 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 7: would have him right up there with Jerry. 430 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so listen, I respect Rick Nuker there and Jerry 431 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: West obviously is too old to be eligible for this list. 432 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: But Jerry West is a different tier than Rick Berry. 433 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: Jerry West, poor guy lost eight straight finals career, one 434 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: to eight in the finals, just kept losing to the Celtics, 435 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: kept going to the finals, and kept losing to the Celtics. 436 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: Then finally won finally one in seventy two, the team 437 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: we were talking about before. But Jerry West also had 438 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: I again a little respect for Jerry West here. I 439 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: just want to I'm mentioning he lost all those finals. 440 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: Jerry West in the sixty two finals losing seven, average 441 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: thirty one again Jerry West. The next year finals, losing six. 442 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: They just kept losing to Bill Russell. Averaged thirty a game, 443 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: Jerry West. He then missed the finals one year. The 444 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: next year in the sixty five finals, losing five, average 445 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: thirty four a game. The very next year he's back 446 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: in the finals, losing seven again average thirty four a game. 447 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: Two years later he's back in the finals, losing six 448 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: to Boston average thirty one again one of these finals, 449 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: he averaged forty some points and loss. I can't find it, 450 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: but listen, he as Jerry West is as great as 451 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: Rick Barry was. Jerry West was better. That's the end 452 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: of the Jerry West segment. That probably means we've spent 453 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: too much time on the Rick Berry segment. Nothing says 454 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: ratings bonanza like talking about players older than the oldest 455 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: guy on our list. Will be right now? All right, Well, 456 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: that just about does it for today's edition of the 457 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: fifty Best Players last fifty years. We've now given you 458 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: players fifty through twenty six. So next week we get 459 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 2: into the top twenty five players of the last fifty years. 460 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: And if you're still listening, that means you did make 461 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: it through eight minutes of Rick Berry with a little 462 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: bit of Jerry West talk mixed in. I appreciate that. 463 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: My promise to you is not only will next week 464 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: be more contemporary players. Next week we'll have at least 465 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: one current active player I think the only active player. No, 466 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: we've had two active players so far that have been 467 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: on this list three Carmelo Anthony Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard. 468 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: We will have another active player, Russell Wilsborth. We've had four. 469 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: I forgot about Russell, thank you to mose So. But 470 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: we will have another active player, at least one Dwight Howard. 471 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: We've had five. Okay, I'm doing a terrible job remembering 472 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: my own list. Doesn't matter. The point is we will 473 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: have another, at least one more active player on next 474 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: week's week's list, plus one man who has some records 475 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: that will simply never be broken, no longer how long 476 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: the game is played. All that's next week on the 477 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: What's Right with the Great podcast is to continue to 478 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: countdown of the fifty best players for the last fifty 479 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: years in the NBA