1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Yea a long time ago in a garage far far away. 2 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Common sense has to prevail, and one of the reasons 3 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: I went looking for a bulletin was it's a three 4 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and a half year old vehicle with two miles on 5 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: it and it's got a compression problem the caago hole. Yes, 6 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, let me assume this car will require 7 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: a special mechanic. Absolutely blonde hair, blue eye speaks to him. 8 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: The service it meaning dollars. You got that right. Welcome 9 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 11 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 12 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 13 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 14 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five six, 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: and now I do not he running with nine years 16 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: old you reach You're hello and welcome Ron and any 17 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor here at the helm of the 18 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: Starship today as we take the car Doctor out for 19 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: a trial spin around the galaxy and see what comes up. 20 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: As we're here to help solve your automotive repair problems 21 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: and deal with whatever it is you've got going on. 22 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm Ron and any in the Car Doctor. The phone 23 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: number is eight five five five six zero nine nine 24 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: zero zero. As always that phone number is seven, and 25 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: there is a messaging service attached to it, which I 26 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: understand is repaired from last week. No thanks to the 27 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: guys over at evoys. We'll take another shot, Adam, what 28 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: the heck and give them a little death star nuzzle 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: as we get closer. But UM zero is the phone 30 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: number that you can call leave a message. If this 31 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: radio show is not on the air, leave a message fast, Harry. 32 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: We'll call you back and get you here in que 33 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: and talk to you about your particular car problem, and 34 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: then we can help solve it for you on air 35 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: for everyone else's benefit. The websites car doctor show dot com. 36 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: You can also find podcasts of this radio show there, 37 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: as well as finding affiliates through the links at car 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com. Over a tune in I Heart 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: and iTunes dot com. I want to talk to you 40 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about the wrong way to fix a car, 41 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: what I sometimes call the adventures of the Wrong path 42 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: to repair. And I see it a lot in terms 43 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: of you kind of can smell it, you know, when 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: it's coming. You know, when somebody's going down the wrong path, 45 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: you know when they've missed a step or mislead and 46 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: it's just so obvious, but not to the vehicle owner. 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: Two thousand three, Toyota camera came into the shop this 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: week at Ari Automotive. My problem, or the problem the 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: customer had given us was I had to diagnose a 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: vibration issue. And it was funny how it was explained. 51 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't. I wasn't told, hey, you know, I've got 52 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: this vibration under specific terms. It was. The conversation started 53 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: out with I had brakes done in a major national chain, 54 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: and I've got a brake pulse. I need brakes. So 55 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: the conversation at the counter ensued and it became, well, 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: tell me about the brake shake, or tell me about 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: the shake. Well, I'm driving down the road and if 58 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: I use the brakes, sometimes there's a shake, sometimes there's not. Okay, 59 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: and any particular speed, no, no real particular speed. It 60 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: just seems to happen all the time. Now, I took 61 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: this car for a rod when I got it in, 62 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: and I knew right off the bat we were going 63 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: down the wrong path because there was a missing piece 64 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: to the puzzle. There was an element here that just 65 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: didn't make any sense because around town I had no 66 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: shake whatsoever and the brake pedal although feeling a tad mushy, 67 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: I thought I could make a better break pedal out 68 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: of the car, that the really car didn't really have 69 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: any kind of shaker vibration going on, and then decided 70 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: to go out to the highway. Any good road test 71 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: has to include the in total range of speeds. Obviously 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: around town no problem. Sixty two Routes seventeen south right 73 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: through Bergen County from eighty two, this car shook worse 74 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: than a Huler dancer trying to make the grass skirt 75 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: fall off. This car was horrible. Steering wheel was dancing 76 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: on the front end was shaken. The seat of your 77 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: pants were shaking. It was bad. And I hadn't even 78 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: touched the break yet. So back to the shop and 79 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: I sat there and they said, well, let's see what 80 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: do I know so far? Because diagnosis, regardless of how 81 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: you're doing it, it's still a step by step process. 82 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: There's no magic bullet, there's no bam. Put your head 83 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: up against the toolbox and you will be healed kind 84 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: of a thing. You still got to go through the process, 85 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: road tested it, experienced it, duplicated, saw it time to 86 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: do a visual. Went through the front suspension steering, looking 87 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: for parts that are loose, worn, something bad falling off. No, 88 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: everything was good. Decided let's do a rotape that well, 89 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: actually I started, decided to do a rotape. But the 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: problem was both front tires were warned within a thirty 91 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: second of minimum. When was it two thirty second? When 92 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: was it three thirty seconds? The outer edges were bald 93 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: and smooth. It needed tires up front. Talk to the customer, 94 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: showed them the depth measurement they had stopped back. We 95 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: went over this. Yeah, you know what, we gotta put 96 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: two tires on this car. That's where we're going to start. 97 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Did the two tires and in the process, what was 98 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: the left front tire balanced but you could see the 99 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: inside lip of the rim had a little wobble and 100 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, and it kind of balanced it. It was bent. 101 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna put that tire to the back. In 102 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the end, I put two new tires on the car 103 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: on the back, moving the bent rim furthest away from 104 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: the driver's seat to the right rear, put two tires 105 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: up front from the rear of the vehicle, balanced them properly. 106 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: All four I've got to think all four wheels were 107 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: at a balance. The backs were definitely out of balance, 108 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: and the front tires, being as bald as they were, 109 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: had to be out of balance. And with four good 110 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: tires properly balanced, even with the bent rim, that car 111 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: road better. The point of this opening and the point 112 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: of this repair is there has to be a quality 113 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: of repair, and there also has to be a diagnosis 114 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 1: such that you don't just consider, well, I had brakes done, 115 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: because here's here's the funny part. When I sat and 116 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: talked to the customer afterwards, post diagnosis, post repair, the 117 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: brakes were done two years ago, and yet in his mind, 118 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: the shake was from the brakes, and it was that 119 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: it was that supposition, it was that predetermination that, oh, 120 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: it must be related to the brakes that were done elsewhere, 121 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: because I didn't have the problem before the brakes. But 122 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: yet he couldn't tell me how long after the brakes 123 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: were done did that problem show up. The point becomes, 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: whatever you're diagnosing, whatever your mechanic is chasing, or whatever 125 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: you as the mechanic or chasing step by step. I 126 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: always think of that that three stooges skit right slowly, 127 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: we turn step by step, inch by inch. Because very 128 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: few diagnosis is on a regular, everyday occurrence are quick. 129 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: They're not meant to be quick. A diagnosis is meant 130 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: to be accurate. And had I just jumped right in 131 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: and started doing breaks without the road test, without the 132 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: time spent, I would have been trying to repair what 133 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I thought was a semi mushy brake pedal but definitely livable, 134 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: and not gotten to the crux of the matter. Here's 135 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: the golden rule. You can repair anything you want on 136 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: a car, anything that legitimately needs, but you always have 137 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: to fix the customers first complaint. Without that, you're dead 138 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: in the water. Hello and welcome Rod and Ady and 139 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at zero nine nine zero zero, 140 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: here to take your calls and answer your questions. We've 141 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: got an interview free hour this hour of the Car Document. 142 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: If I think both hours our interviewed free. This week, 143 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: we're going to be giving away a little giveaway this hour. 144 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: I think we'll do it this hour. We'll leave it 145 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: up to fast Harry somewhere in the next two hours. 146 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: If you're listening, we're gonna be giving away a dense 147 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: O Winter tune up kit courtesy the folks over a 148 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: dense O Parts dense O t t dot com. Specifically, 149 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna consist of a set of Densel spark plugs 150 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: instead of wiper blades and an air filter. We're trying 151 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: to get your ride in shape for winter, so we 152 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: can wing to be giving that away. Uh this hour, 153 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: this hour. Next, we'll talk to Harry at the break 154 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: and see what he wants to do. He's always a 155 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: good judge. But I am here to take your calls 156 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: at zero zero zero. The car Doctor is gonna return 157 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: right after this to kick open the garage doors. Stay tuned, 158 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're on an Indian here at zero nine 159 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Let's kick the car doctor garage doors 160 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: open and see who's on the phone. Harry. I should 161 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: say fast, Harry, that's right, you're looking shelt this week, 162 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: I am eighteen pounds three weeks. You know, America wants 163 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: to know, and we're actually getting fan mail. I can't 164 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: believe the goiter has a fan base. Not gonna be 165 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: a Goiter for long. And then who were gonna get 166 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: to do this job. I don't know. So Tony look 167 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: at him. He looks shelter this week, doesn't he? Yes, 168 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, he's um. He's working out at the 169 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: gym now every week. So what's good? Hey? Listen? And 170 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: you know what the backside of the story that we 171 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: don't really talk about is Harry had a heart attack 172 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: four years ago. Open heart surgery, open heart surgery bypass. Yeah, 173 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: so he's he's coming back strong. So um and the 174 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: goiters in love? Do you want to say hello to 175 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: your girlfriend? Is that what you want to do? Because 176 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: she's out there listening today. Hello, dear, I love you 177 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: with all my heart. Okay, I'm not gonna go fixed cars? 178 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: Do you have what do you have for me? On 179 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: the phone? All right, Ron online one. We have Mike 180 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: in Lansing, Michigan. He has an O six Silverado and 181 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: he has a question about adding dual exhaust after the 182 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: catal that a converter. All right, let's go take it. 183 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors open. Mike, you're wund with 184 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor, sir, How can I help? Well? Um? Yeah, 185 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: like I said, um, I have a single exhaust on 186 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: my two thousand six Chevy Silverado Z seven one four 187 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: World Drive. And I'd like to know what adding a 188 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: dual exhaust from the catalytic converter back will that make 189 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: a difference in performance? Or is that just for looks 190 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: and sound? I think it's a look in a sound thing, Mike, 191 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: not after the cat unless you truly open it up 192 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: and made a duels all the way back both banks. 193 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: But you know, you've always got you've got to realize 194 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: that whatever you do to the exhaust, you've also got 195 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: to modify the intake. There's a there's a term in 196 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: in in in performance when we start to look at 197 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, is this gonna make a difference? Is this 198 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna make it better? And we start to think of 199 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: volumetric efficiency? Are you familiar with the term? Volumetric efficiency? 200 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: Is how well can the engine fill the cylinder and 201 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: utilize everything that's coming in and scavenge it out in 202 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: the most efficient manner. And that's the simplest, easiest to 203 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: understand explanation I can give. So you can make the 204 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: exhaust flow as easy as it possibly could be, right 205 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: to its engineering limit, but if it can't pull in 206 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: more and compensate and gain some advantage. You know, it's 207 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: you've got to look at both sides of the engine. 208 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: An engine is a big air pump, and it becomes 209 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: a case that if you do something to the exhaust, 210 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: do something to the intake. So perhaps it would be 211 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: an air intake system like a kN N on the 212 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: one side, and then take a look at and see 213 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: maybe we would get some sort of benefit out of 214 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: opening up the cat exhaust on the outlet on a 215 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: single but definitely on a duel. The issue there becomes 216 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: that this is a truck and that's a pretty big 217 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: pipe to begin with. If memory serves me correct, that's 218 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: probably a two and a half or three inch pipe 219 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: coming out of the cat by itself, and that's that's 220 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good amount of flow. So you know, 221 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: you're you're you're asking to do something that I don't 222 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: know you'd see that much of a benefit. If it's 223 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: worth the expense, if you want the sound and the look, 224 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: then you go do it. You get out to YouTube, 225 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: much Mike Okay, go out to YouTube and search either 226 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Volumetric Efficiency t s T Technician service training with a 227 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Jerry Trulia T r U, 228 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: G L I A or A T S. Bernie Thompson. 229 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Both of those gentlemen are extremely smart in this area 230 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: and a lot of areas, but this is one of 231 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: the areas they really can re late to and they 232 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: explain volumetric efficiency. Bernie Um actually manufactures a scan tool 233 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: and scope system for engine diagnosis. We're using it in 234 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: the shop. We've been using the scan tool for some years, 235 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: and now we're learning Bernie scope. In that Bernie talks 236 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: about volumetric efficiency and his scan tool, and he's he's 237 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the only scan tool manufacturer designer that I know of 238 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: that actually will map out the air fuel mixture and 239 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: show you volumetric efficiency across the RPM range as it's affected, 240 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: so you can determine is the engine drawing in enough, 241 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: is it getting rid of enough? And so forth. He 242 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: treats the engine as an air pump, and that's the 243 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: proper way to teach it. But it's He has some 244 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: great videos out there as well as Jerry Trulia, and 245 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: you can benefit a great deal and get a rudimentary 246 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: understanding of it after a little bit of time watching 247 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: those videos out on YouTube. All right, sir, all right, 248 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: take a look at that you're very welcome and good 249 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: luck to you. Yeah, you've always got to remember what 250 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: we do to one side of an engine, we've got 251 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: to do to the other. And and then in reality 252 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: is just a big air pumping without looking at it 253 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: like that, well you know it, there's no benefit to 254 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: that point. Let's do a quick email. Hey, Ron, my 255 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: name is Emory. A friend of mine introduced me to 256 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: your show, and now I listen whenever I can. Usually 257 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: it's when i'm driving. I had I had a couple 258 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: of things I like your input on. First, I picked 259 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: up a nineteen forty Cadillac Series seventy two s Dan 260 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Limo for a good deal last year. It needs a 261 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: complete restore from the chassis up. I was thinking it 262 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: would be a good hot rod build if I put 263 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: a more modern drive train in it. Yeah, I can 264 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: see that it's no fun ninety drive train. Just finding 265 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: the parts has got to be a bear. Um. I 266 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: would like something a little more modern, and you can 267 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: do an awful lot with you know, computerized fuel injection 268 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: and so forth. However, I've been told that there is 269 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: some rarity of this car, and I'm wondering if it 270 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: would be more wise to do a stock restoration. Probably not, 271 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: simply because stock restorations today the collector car market is 272 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: crashing from what I see on pricing, and you will 273 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: spend way more money on that car than you can 274 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: ever recoup if you want to do a stock restoration 275 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: to sell it. I do not believe the engine numbers matched. 276 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: Then you're done. Then there's no point in keeping the 277 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: car original. And though so maybe that doesn't matter anymore. Yes, 278 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: that's true. Second, I was able to pick up a 279 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: diagnostic tool from our mutual friends at O'Reilly's. It's a 280 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Bosch O B D ten fifty. I haven't had an 281 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: occasion to download the app yet, therefore I haven't been 282 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: able to check it out. I have also been having 283 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: some buyers remorse because it was kind of a spur 284 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: of the moment on the sale kind of purchase. I 285 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: haven't been able to find any product reviews to settle 286 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: my conscious. Do you have any experience with the Bosch 287 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: diagnostic tools? Do you think I wasted my money? Let 288 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: me address it here because there's another paragraph after this. 289 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: You know what, You've got to try it. You've got 290 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: to download the app, or you've gotta look at videos. 291 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: You've got to look to see how does this tool work. 292 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Bosch makes a great line of diagnostic tools, no doubt about. 293 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, the Bosch name in the automotive industry is huge. 294 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: They've been around forever. They've been around since the late 295 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. You know, the question becomes, it's not whether 296 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: or not that scan tool is a good tool, and 297 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is, but can you follow it along. 298 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: One of the hardest things to do, I think, as 299 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: a human being is to learn a tool that somehow 300 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: you know it's just it just doesn't fit you. It's 301 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like when mom said eat eggplant, and 302 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: the first thought you had was egg dirt. Nope, can't 303 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: do that right. And then as you got older as 304 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: an adult, you found that egg plant tasted pretty good, 305 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: a little mozzarella, a little tomato sauce. All of a sudden, 306 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: this was an okay thing. So learning something new kind 307 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: of becomes a problem. Before you condemn whether or not 308 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: you did the right thing, I would take a look 309 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: at it and just remember there's no rule that says 310 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: you can only have one diagnostic scantal. I've got nineteen. Also, 311 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: I put a specter cold air and taking my two 312 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: thousand six Ram fift. I like the performance I get 313 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: out of it, but I was wondering if cannon filters 314 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: are better or comparable, or if I should be looking 315 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: to upgrade the whole system next time I need to 316 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: change the filter. Thanks for your time. Anology shows environment 317 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: with my truck's maintenance better and be more prop be 318 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: more proactive with repaired I recently try to have Penzil 319 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: Platinum plus and all my miles per gallant increase. Have 320 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: a great day memory Um, I'll tell you what emory. 321 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: The Specter or the can in both good products, and 322 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: it's a matter of the way I've understand it. In 323 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: the way I've always read it. The Specter has, you know, 324 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a different twist. It's a 325 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: little more carbon fiber, it's a slightly different look. But 326 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: both of them provide a performance increase. I think before 327 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: I could say one is better than the other in 328 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: terms of performance. The easiest way would be be to 329 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: get out to kN filters dot com and look at 330 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: their website and they will tell you, hey, this gives 331 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: you this much, and then go talk to Specter and 332 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: see what their answers are, but both are a good 333 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: quality product. Thanks for the information, Emory. I hope that 334 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: answers it for you. And when you get this hot 335 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: rod rolling and you get some pictures coming along, by 336 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: all means, send them, send them to us. We'll post 337 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: them up on the Car Doctor Facebook page. I'm runing 338 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: any of the card Doctor zero zero, the phone number, 339 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor show dot com, the website. I'll be 340 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: back right after this. Start spreading the new I'm leaving today. 341 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: I want to be a part of it. New York, 342 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: New York. Hey, Happy birthday from the Car Doctor. Old 343 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: blue Eyes is one birthday today and that we want 344 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: to take a moment here and wish Old blue Eyes 345 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: happy birthday. And um, Frank, you'll never be replaced. You 346 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: were one in the original and um we're just happy 347 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: to play your music here. I'm running any in the 348 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: Car Doctor here at eight five five five six zero 349 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Let's get over and talk to 350 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: Lauren in Iowa Toyota camera and some problems with breaks. Lauren. 351 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Donker. Yeah, good afternoon, Good to 352 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: talk to you. Yes, what's going on? Love? I love 353 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: your show and I just want to give you a 354 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: few compliments. I love your delivery style and your sense 355 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: of humor, and and you're willingness to share your knowledge 356 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: with all of this guys out here. I didn't know 357 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: I had relatives in Iowa. Look at this um, How 358 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: do you like that? So would you guys pay this 359 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: got is? You're not closing up for me to go 360 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: to so I talk to you on the radio. I 361 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: understand that, but this is the second best thing. How 362 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: can I help you today? You got a camera that 363 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: we've had for about six seven years, and it's been 364 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: the kids in school, cars and the summer while we've 365 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: had some break issues. Daughter said, hey, Dad, the breaks 366 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: are kind of making some noise. I took her first spin, 367 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was grinding, and you know, I had 368 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: paid post enough attention. So I tuk her down to 369 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: the local mechanic and he put all new breaks on 370 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: and one new caliper and hose and and I figured 371 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: we're good to go, but drove it home and by 372 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: the time I got home, why, I think it was 373 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: kind of my breaking again and and the one wheel 374 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: was hot again, and it was like, WHOA, what's going 375 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: on here? So I took it to the next dealer 376 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: or the next local shopping and he replaced the other 377 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: caliper and pose and I had a little bit of trouble. 378 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, kid drove to school for several months here, 379 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: and I drove it to church here the other day 380 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: and uh way home. But I think he started vibrating 381 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: again and kind of dragging down a little bit. So 382 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: I said, well, what's going on here? And the brakes 383 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: got really really touching. Okay, so basically the brakes are dragging. 384 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Did you go back to 385 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: the first mechanic that did the brakes initially? Didn't? How come? 386 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Well, I thought he must have been 387 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: the most confident that doing his job. So I decided 388 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: that's why I go to the next guy. I figured 389 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: he might be a little more confident in what did 390 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: he do? Let me hit you, Let me hit you, 391 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: Let me hit you with this idea, and I get it. 392 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: I get it. Let me hit you with this idea. 393 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: What if one of the parts he used was defective 394 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: and that was causing the whole problem, So it's beyond 395 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: his control. Absolutely, it could be the issue. Um, you know, 396 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: auto repair is the only business the only business where 397 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: you have to be right ten out of ten times. Yeah, 398 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: and in a country where we spend pay baseball players 399 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: a minute a million dollars a year to hit a 400 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: little white ball three out of ten times or whatever 401 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: the number is, that means baseball players are wrong seventy 402 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: of the time. Yet we still go endorse them and 403 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: go see them. Yet we don't do that with a mechanic. 404 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: So I say this with love. Just take a look 405 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: at that and and think about it from that perspective. Now, 406 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: if you go back and the guy's a jerk, then 407 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: he's out. He's a nice guy, and actually to him 408 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the other last week to work on. So I have 409 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: really no problem with just just to say, where I 410 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: would go with this is if you can duplicate this problem. 411 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: If you're driving along and the brakes are getting tight 412 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: and hot and smoking. The first question I've got, all right, 413 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: assuming dangerous word on family radio, assuming the new parts 414 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: are good, and you know what new means never ever worked, 415 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: all right, is if which wheel is the one that's 416 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: dragging left front or right front? Well I'm not exactly sure. 417 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: I think it right front, but now and so they 418 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: try to protest and they can recreate the issue. And 419 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: they replaced the hose, but the issue, Okay, which side 420 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: did they replace the hosan? Originally? I think they're the 421 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: very first one was the left front, and then the 422 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: shop word that now did the right front, and I 423 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: think they replaced that again. So at this point it's 424 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: had two new hoses up front and it's still locking 425 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: the right front wheel one or the other. I'm not 426 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: exactly Okay, one or the other is it locking? To do? 427 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: The next step was putting a master cylinder, and I said, well, 428 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: what do you think that you know? Is that gonna 429 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: fix it? Well? Before before we go that far, are 430 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: we sure that it's only one wheel that's getting locked up? Well, 431 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: I don't think it is. I think it sounds like 432 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: most fronts are kind of getting tight on. Okay, So 433 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: so if both fronts are getting tight, what I'd like 434 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: to do is trace the line back to the master 435 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: and crack that line at the master loose. If cracking 436 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: that if cracking that line at the master loose gives 437 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: you a little of fluid and it releases pressure, m 438 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: then I want you to duplicate the problem again and 439 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: try it opening the opposite line at the master. In 440 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: other words, is there any residual pressure in the rears 441 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: that's building but it doesn't apply the rear breaks because 442 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: we haven't overcome the proportioning valve in the circuit yet. 443 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if the master is starting to drag? Yeah, 444 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: because right, But but there is there is a step 445 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: by step process you can go through thinking about how 446 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: the circuit works. And every car is a little different. 447 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's is it it's sometimes it's left front, 448 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: right rear as it's split, and then sometimes it's front 449 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: to back. Every car changes and you have to sit 450 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: there and look at it. But my point is by 451 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: opening bleeders or cracking lines, you can determine where the 452 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: source of the pressure is coming from. Listen, I would 453 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: I would crack the left front caliper. Does that release pressure? 454 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: If that releases pressure on both saw, then I'd go 455 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: do the same thing to the other side. If it 456 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: doesn't do it there, but it does it this way, 457 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: then maybe I've got a problem with one of the hoses, 458 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: or maybe I've got a rubber hose somewhere else in 459 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: the system that I'm not accounting for. Depending upon how 460 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: the system is split, did you have. Did you have 461 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: the problem prior to the brake work being done in 462 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: the first place? Oh, yes, we did so. It was locking. 463 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: It was locking the front brakes prior to the brakes 464 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: failing back in the first guy. Then we got Then 465 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: we've got it. Okay, Then we've got to diagnose this 466 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: like what he did had no bearing on it, and 467 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: what's going on here is the result of something else 468 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: failing the other thing. To keep in mind, this could 469 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: also be a bad break booster. All right, do we 470 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: have a break booster problem applying the master causing the 471 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: brakes to drag? Huh, Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 472 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: It kind of goes back to something way beyond, way 473 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: beyond the reason to break the a the first right, Right, 474 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: We've got We've got to sit down and start this out, Lauren. 475 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, stay on the line. I'm gonna 476 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: let fast Harry get your information. Give him your vehicle 477 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: if you have at the vent, if you could email 478 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: it to us, but give them your make, model and address. 479 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna send out the dens O Winter tune up 480 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: kid to y'all, um, We're gonna send you out to 481 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: alredy um t t spark plugs and air filtering, some 482 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: wiper blades and when you get the brakes on this 483 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: car straightened out, it'll help the kids get back and 484 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: forth to school in college and get you around this 485 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: winter out there in Iowa and do what it's gotta do. 486 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: So stay on the line fast. Harry is gonna take 487 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: your information and we'll get that densilridy m T t 488 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: uh kid coming out your way, and there's more information 489 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: for everybody else out at dens a ridium Uh dens 490 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: o t T. I'm sorry at dense so t T 491 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Yeah, Tom, you got something to jump in here. Well, yeah, 492 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: Tony and I are sitting here discussing. At the beginning 493 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: of the call, they were saying, you probably have relatives 494 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: out there, and we're just sitting here amazed. They actually 495 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: called them the show and they're civil to you. Yeah, 496 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: well they because they don't know me that Well there 497 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: there you got. I knew then, So thanks. Tom's always 498 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: got to get into the act that makes him feel 499 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: good and I'd be lost without on my love Tom So. 500 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, I should give Tom a big 501 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: tip of the hat because that opening this week, that 502 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: star Wars opening was a masterpiece. We're gonna post that 503 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: up on the Car Doctor Facebook page anyway. Eight five 504 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero, Run on any in the car Doctor. 505 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: We are back right after this. Well do kids tonight. 506 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: I got to feel something, right, I'm just scared and kids, 507 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: I'll phone off my chair. Christmas. That's such a second Christmas, 508 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: rigging up the lights. Hey, run any in the car doctor. 509 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's such a pain to me. It's 510 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: all this Christmas music. But it's that time of year. 511 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Rod and Ainting and the Guard Doctor nine 512 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: zero zero. You know, you forget, you forget that it's Christmas, 513 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's this music and 514 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, wasn't it July just yesterday? Uh? 515 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: You know, And here's the prediction. All right, it'll be 516 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: three months. It's gonna be April March, and we're gonna 517 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: go boying um. You know right now it's it's late fall, 518 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: it's not winter. Well I'll tell you what it's And 519 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: it's no secret. This show is live Saturday afternoons two 520 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: to four pm. We're gonna be taped late around the 521 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: rest of the country. Other affiliates. You know, they take 522 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: it on late broadcast. If it's nice here in the 523 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: northeast tomorrow, they're saying it's gonna be sixty eight de 524 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: grease here in the Northeast tomorrow. Hot Rods coming out December. 525 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the hot rode out for a cruise. 526 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: We haven't had snow yet, there's no salt on the ground. 527 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: I'll go take one more, one last ride before the winter. 528 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: So why not. Let's get over line one. Let's go 529 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: and talk to Patrick Augusta. Man, I'm sorry, and let's 530 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: see what's going on here, Cara, Patrick, Well, into the car, doctor, 531 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: how can I help? Hey, Well, welcome there. Well, like 532 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: as I told your you're screer before, I had a 533 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: trouble with a camper. And what it is is the 534 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: of the air vents on the side blow either cooler 535 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: or hot air, whichever I have it on air condition 536 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: or the heat there. But my middle events and the 537 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: console hardly blow at anything. And it started around September, 538 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: but I kind of just ignored it until until now. 539 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: Anyone not figure, I'll give you a call see what 540 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: it possibly being. If there doesn't need to be fixed 541 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. Probably what's going on here is there's 542 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: a piece under the center of the dash called the 543 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: air vent mode control servo motor. Say that three times fast. 544 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: That's a mouthful. All right, I'm not going to air 545 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: vent mode control servo motor all right. Air vent mode 546 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: controls all right. It is a seven wire control piece 547 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: that opens and closes the center events. It's very common 548 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: to fail, all right. Now. One of the things that 549 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: it fails electrically, it fails mechanically. It can you know, 550 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: this is like it gives you a little bit of 551 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: aggravation from either side of the table. So one of 552 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: the first things you want to make sure is that 553 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the mode door itself isn't mechanically stuck, because what we've 554 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: seen is you'll take that servo motor down to get 555 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: to the door, you'll find the door stuck. Unstick the door, 556 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: put it back together, and then find out the servo 557 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: motor went bad trying to unjam the jam door. All right. 558 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: So you know, and there is a series of tests. Um, 559 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: are you handy with a voltmeter? Patrick, Well, I'm I'm 560 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: a traveler, so I don't have none of my tools 561 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: in it. They're all stuck down in Georgia. All right, Well, 562 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: if you're so inclined to, maybe you know, stop out 563 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: at a radio shack and and and and grab yourself 564 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: achieved voltmeter if you get cure is you want to 565 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: make sure at the air of in control servo motor, which, 566 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: like I said, is probably easiest to access if memory 567 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: serves me correct driver's side up. It's kind of in 568 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: a bad spot. But you'll see there is a seven 569 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: wire would be the blue black wire. You want to 570 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: make sure you've got battery voltage on the blue black 571 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: all right, Key on engine running, key on engine off. 572 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: You want to make sure you've got ground on the 573 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: white black. Those are the two. Those are the Those 574 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: are the you know, power and ground side, and then 575 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the wires are just inputs from the 576 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: control head. Now, sometimes if you've got a mechanic stethoscope, 577 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: you can sit there and you know, with the stethoscope 578 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: hit the buttons, do you hear anything going on at 579 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: the clicking or noise or you know, because sometimes it 580 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: will ratch it softly and it will actually be a 581 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: problem with the with the door being stuck holding it 582 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: and sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes it's just the door stuck, 583 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: you unstick the door and everything us works. So but 584 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: that would be that would be the first place I go. Now, 585 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: you may be able to pull the servo down and 586 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: just put the door in the one position and then 587 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: put the servo back up and leave it like that 588 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: if you didn't want to fix it, and you could also, 589 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of wedge it in one spot. 590 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: So just just just a couple of options for you. 591 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: But I would bet on the year event mode control 592 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: servo motor. All right, sir, all right, well, thank you 593 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: very much. You're very welcome. You have a good rist 594 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: of the day. I'm running any in the guard doctor. 595 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: We're back right after us. Bye bye, he's gone. Welcome back. 596 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: We don't any of the car doctor. Let's get right 597 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: over to the phones and talk to Nick Fargo, North Dakota. 598 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: How can I help you? Neck? Hi? Um? Still, I 599 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: have an plous and three like I told you, and 600 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: I have a break shimmy had this probably four in 601 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: the front um and and turning the rotors fixed it. 602 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: And since then I've changed the rear roders. Originally just 603 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: front roaders and pads. Now I have new rear roaders. Um, 604 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: and you know, after about a few thousand miles, I 605 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: now have a pretty severe shimmy. When I hit the brakes, 606 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: it goes through the chassis, through the wheel. Um. But 607 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: if you, you know, if you pressed to break a 608 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: little harder, it goes away. It's just kind of in that. 609 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: It's in that, it's in that sweet spot. Yeah. Um, 610 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you, when you get this shake, 611 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: does the steering wheel does the horizontal bar of the 612 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: steering wheel shim me up and down? Or is it 613 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: more in the seat of your pants? Um? No, it's 614 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: it's more like a kind of steering left to right. 615 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, the steering wheels, the steering 616 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: wheels wheel right, the steering wheels shatter. If you were 617 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: a fighter pilot, it would be like the plane was 618 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: rocking violently back and forth left right, left, right, left right. Yeah, 619 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm wondering. You know, if it be alignment it's the breaks. No, 620 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: I think it's more likely a rotor. Here's here's how 621 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: i'd approach it. Okay, you know the first thing I 622 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: would do, if you have access to it, it would 623 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: be nice to use a dial indicator to measure the 624 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: runout or how true those rotors are let me start here, well, 625 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: let me start hearing that, because the clock is gonna 626 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: take me. Machining rotors never seems to work simply because 627 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: you're taking what, in my opinion and the specs I've 628 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: seen in the last fifteen years, is already a thin 629 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: piece of metal making it thinner. But just replacing the 630 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: rotor or machining the rotor isn't necessarily the fix either. 631 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: You don't know the reason rotors warp is because the 632 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: area where the wheel comes in contact with the face 633 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: of the rotor, that clamp area or clampload if it's 634 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: clamping against the hub, and that hub that flat piece 635 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: at the rotor sits against has rust or any sort 636 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: of bend to it, or any sort of twist. It 637 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: eventually twists that rotor like a piece of woodwood twist 638 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: in a twisted mold, and takes that shape and starts 639 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: the pulse. Bottom line. I'd indicate the rotors. I'd start 640 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: with the fronts. I'd replace them, I'd clean all the 641 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: rust off the hubs and the flanges. I'd go for 642 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: a road test at the problems. Gone, You're done. If 643 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: it's not, I'd repeat the same thing. At the back. 644 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: Just because you put new on doesn't mean it's good. 645 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: And keep in mind Loup all the caliper slides and 646 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: pads I'm on. Any of the Car Doctor mechanics aren't expensive, 647 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: they're priceless.