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Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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Speaker 1: and today we're discussing prime pricing, discount airlines, and early

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Speaker 1: retirement idiocy. That's right, Joel. This is our Friday flight

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Speaker 1: where every week we look at some of the different

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Speaker 1: headlines that we've come across this week, and we wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about how those headlines, how those stories, how

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Speaker 1: the news impacts our money. By the way, if our

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Speaker 1: voices sound slightly off, I think there there's been like

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Speaker 1: some sithness going around, and you know, you and I

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Speaker 1: got the sniffles work together, like I don't know, four

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Speaker 1: feet apart. No, it's not my wife test ever COVID

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Speaker 1: this morning, we as well is not. But uh yeah, Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: um we are still well enough to host this podcast today.

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Speaker 1: And even if we were, I mean, come on, I'd

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Speaker 1: have to have like a knife wound to the stomach

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Speaker 1: to not sit down and record with you. My friends

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Speaker 1: were like the postal service in that regard where it's

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Speaker 1: like through through rain, sleet, and snow, like the Kevin

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Speaker 1: Costner postal Service, like even through an apocalypse. Right, you're

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Speaker 1: willing to be there, but hey, heads up. Valentine's Day

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Speaker 1: it's on Monday's, right, you guys, do y'all celebrate not

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Speaker 1: not typically we're not huge Valentine's Day people, but I

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Speaker 1: do have a plan to get my wife something this

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Speaker 1: year that's a little outside of the box. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I did. I think it's important to note that one

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Speaker 1: you have to define expectations with your partner about Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's probably where the mishaps happen when

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Speaker 1: it's like I didn't think we celebrated Valentine's Day, but

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Speaker 1: your partner thought that you did. And hopefully that's something

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Speaker 1: you learned early on, right, because like as a kid,

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Speaker 1: you forget the first one and they're like, what's your problem?

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Speaker 1: Is a huge deal. I mean, I didn't celebrate, like

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Speaker 1: it wasn't something we celebrated in my household as a

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Speaker 1: kid growing up. Obviously, when you go to school, you

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Speaker 1: do the Valentine Exchange at school, so everybody celebrates with

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Speaker 1: a certain teenage muting Ninja turtleal Valentine's your hand up

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Speaker 1: your classmates. But then once I started dating Kate realized

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Speaker 1: it was more important. So it's a part of our life,

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Speaker 1: but we don't spend a lot of money, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of the difference here, right. I think

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Speaker 1: some staff of flowers cooking, cooking dinner is like a

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Speaker 1: But we're not, like, we're certainly not going out on

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day night to get dinner some fancy joint Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day prefixed dinner that's gonna cost you an rmnal leg

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Speaker 1: not doing that. I came across some stats actually and

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Speaker 1: lending Tree, they had a survey out and uh, the

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Speaker 1: average person is looking to spend around two dollars, which

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Speaker 1: is a lot of money. There's a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: um and interestingly, millennials are looking to spend the most.

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Speaker 1: They're closer to three. And so I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to like yuck on your yum if

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Speaker 1: that's you, because a lot of folks, I mean, Kate's

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Speaker 1: roommate actually in college, it's like it was like her

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Speaker 1: favorite holiday the whole year. Her name was also Katie,

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Speaker 1: but like Valentine's Day was serious. And so I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: that's a holiday that they actually they probably do spend

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Speaker 1: a good amount of money on in their household that

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Speaker 1: is okay, but make sure, like you said, Jill, you

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Speaker 1: you actually have the money set aside, right, Like it's

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Speaker 1: okay to celebrate, just make sure you're not going into

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Speaker 1: debts in order to buy the red and pink stuff. Yes, exactly, well,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to note, like maybe where you shot

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Speaker 1: you're an Amazon Prime member, you can get two dozen

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Speaker 1: really good deal. And um, the other places I like

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Speaker 1: I've never done that, I never will do that, and

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Speaker 1: I've never understood it because you've never been that wealthy. Right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into the Friday flight the quickly sampling of

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Speaker 1: stories that we found interesting this week. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: student loans and saving money on college for a second.

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Speaker 1: Fort of those uh an anivil around the neck of

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Speaker 1: actually reinforces how important it is for upcoming college students

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Speaker 1: sadly a lot of them don't. And because of that,

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Speaker 1: that they would have otherwise received if they had just

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Speaker 1: have actually qualified for federal grants. And these are these

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Speaker 1: are not like student loans, These are grants. This is

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Speaker 1: individual schools based their need based aid, you know, largely

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people that could provide massive levels

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Speaker 1: fill out the FASTA in order to graduate. I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that. It's just this thing that Okay, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that that was something I could do.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that doesn't mean you have to go to college.

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Speaker 1: You still have the option to. But I like how

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Speaker 1: there's a quirement. I think it can just open a

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Speaker 1: the current fasts. It truly is this beastly annoyance. I

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Speaker 1: but the list of questions is supposed to get trimmed

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Speaker 1: how it's definitely a worth while the gift that keeps

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Speaker 1: on federal student aid. They actually have this YouTube page

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Speaker 1: to link to that in our show notes. Okay, so,

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Speaker 1: got federal loans, well, you still don't have to pay

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Speaker 1: back date ends up getting pushed back again. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, uh INK reports that more employers

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Speaker 1: are planning to help their employees pay off their student loans,

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Speaker 1: of those benefits I think we're going to see more

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Speaker 1: And so let's talk for a second about inflation. I

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Speaker 1: the new inflation numbers they just came out. The news

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Speaker 1: seven and a half percent. Inflated prices are costing the

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Speaker 1: This is according to Moody's Analytics. UH inflation. It's like

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Speaker 1: least Atlanta, right, Yeah, And honestly, with it being cold now,

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Speaker 1: But while we're likely to see inflation trend downward, I

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Speaker 1: rates going up, but like that's not necessarily going to

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Speaker 1: things to consider before you sign up for another year

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Speaker 1: of prime membership, especially now that the price has increased.

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Speaker 1: A right time now for our allow story that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna cover during this episode. Folks who like discount flying,

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Speaker 1: they will be happy to hear that Spirit Airlines may

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Speaker 1: not exist for much longer. Well, it's funny you say that,

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Speaker 1: because I think people who like discount flying are probably like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Spirits discount airlines. I'll probably choose that. It just depends

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Speaker 1: on what you're looking for when it comes to your airline.

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Speaker 1: But this is because fellow discount airline Frontier, they just

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Speaker 1: announced that they're going to be that they're planning to

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Speaker 1: buy Spirit Airlines, and these two airlines combined would become

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Speaker 1: the fifth largest airline in the country. That is if

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Speaker 1: the merger is approved by the Justice Department. So the

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Speaker 1: big question is, you know, is this a good thing

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Speaker 1: for us as customers? As flyers. The two companies claim

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Speaker 1: that merging will allow them to compete with the bigger

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Speaker 1: four airlines while offering more savings to the flying public.

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Speaker 1: And that might be true given the fact that those

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Speaker 1: big four airlines they do of business uh in the

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Speaker 1: domestic market. They could use a stronger fifth competitor that

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Speaker 1: has a strong discount bias. But you know, at the

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Speaker 1: same time, having fewer overall airlines thing at the heels

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Speaker 1: of the big four will likely maybe be worse for

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Speaker 1: all of us out there. Yeah, it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what happens, will less you know, but some of

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Speaker 1: the smaller discount airlines, Matt, I think you're right, could

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Speaker 1: potentially face even more severe headwinds. Um yeah, sorry, dad,

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Speaker 1: joke there. If the merger does go through, I think, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: once you can create this fifth competitor, some of those

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Speaker 1: other smaller competitors find it even harder to to keep

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Speaker 1: a foothold in an intensely competitive industry. And we as consumers,

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Speaker 1: we need competition in the market in order to receive

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Speaker 1: the most benefit and best product and service possible. But

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Speaker 1: either way, it's gonna take a lot to try and

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Speaker 1: dethrone Delta, Alaska and Southwest. And you know what, all

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Speaker 1: of those airlines do consistently rank in the top spots

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Speaker 1: in the airline rankings, but Spirit their way down at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the list here and so um yeah,

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Speaker 1: even if these airlines do combine, that doesn't necessarily mean

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Speaker 1: that their service is going to improve. But if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for the absolute lowest price and you can travel

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Speaker 1: with all of your things in a small backpack, then

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Speaker 1: the fronts here, Spirit, you know, probably a good way

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Speaker 1: to go, and we're all about jumping through some hoops

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Speaker 1: to save some money. And the other thing that people

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Speaker 1: need to know, like, regardless of whether an airline says

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Speaker 1: that they are, you know, a discount airline or not,

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Speaker 1: Google dot com slash flights is a great place to

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Speaker 1: kind of get the lay of the land for how

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Speaker 1: much cheaper it actually is to fly a different airline,

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Speaker 1: and very quickly you can get an idea of whether

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Speaker 1: or not it's gonna be worth it to fly a

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Speaker 1: discount airline or not. Um And and just remember, if

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Speaker 1: you're flying a discount airline like Spirit, there are all

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Speaker 1: these random little fees that are going to get assessed.

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Speaker 1: So the price that you're paying up front is not

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Speaker 1: necessarily equal to the price that you're gonna pay at

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Speaker 1: the very end. And so yeah, keep that in mind

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Speaker 1: as you're booking travel. Yeah, generally speaking, though, I'm all

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Speaker 1: for it because of the fact that it provides more competition, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's capitalism when there is more competition, that

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Speaker 1: leads to innovation and the ability for us as customers

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Speaker 1: to have options. I mean, that's I think in the end,

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Speaker 1: that's what I want folks to have, because, like we're saying,

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Speaker 1: if you want to kind of jump through all the hoops,

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Speaker 1: you want to, you know, squish all your stuff into

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Speaker 1: a purse and that's how you travel because you don't

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Speaker 1: want to pay extra for an additional bag. I'm totally

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Speaker 1: fine with that. But at the same time, if you

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Speaker 1: want better service, if you want to sit in business class,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna fly Frontier or Spirit. You're gonna fly Delta,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna be willing to pay that. As long

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Speaker 1: as we have the freedom to choose and you know

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Speaker 1: where our money goes, I think that's what I want

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Speaker 1: to see more of. And as long as Frontier is

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Speaker 1: offering that as a service that people are willing to

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Speaker 1: pay for, then they will continue to do well. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the great thing is if if either one of

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Speaker 1: these airlines stops providing value or there are too many complaints, which, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the word gets out, you go Southwest where it gets out.

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Speaker 1: And like these rankings do have an impact on whether

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Speaker 1: people decide to fly with these airlines or not. And

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Speaker 1: Spirit went through a crisis a few years ago and

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Speaker 1: they had to change a whole lot of things about

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Speaker 1: the way they communicated to customers about what they were

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Speaker 1: paying for those flights because people felt taking advantage of

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Speaker 1: on the back end Nicolon exactly, and so um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Spirit has done a better job now communicating about what

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Speaker 1: the fees are going to be and the trade offs

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Speaker 1: that you're making to fly with them. But one of

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Speaker 1: the trade offs you're making is to save money. And

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Speaker 1: if that's your primary goal, then for a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks who can make sense to, you know, opt for

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Speaker 1: one of those discount airlines like Spirit instead of one

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Speaker 1: of the full fair airlines. That's right. So that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it for this Friday Flight episode. We hope everyone

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Speaker 1: has a wonderful Valentine's Day weekend, and we will see

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Speaker 1: you back here on Monday on Valentine's Day. And remember

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Speaker 1: we're going to be speaking with a financial therapist about

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Speaker 1: love and money. You can look forward to that episode

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Speaker 1: showing up in your pod catcher. So basically, I think

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Speaker 1: what you can do is avoid the flowers or the

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Speaker 1: fancy dinner out just listen to how to money with

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Speaker 1: your partner because this is gonna be a compelling episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. Do listen to the episode, but

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Speaker 1: don't have that be uh in your own placements the

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Speaker 1: day activity actual Valentine's Day festivities. Yes, all right, Well

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this one, Matt. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: best friends out, Best Friends Out,