1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, and welcome to another episode of Bachelor 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I'm Rachel and I have an amazing guest 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: co host today, none other than Demmy Burnett. Oh Hello, hello, Hello. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: I am so happy to be here today. I am 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: very happy to have you on here, not just because 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have we have a special guest 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking all things Paradise and I 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: wasn't there and I've never been, and I can't give 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: my insights, so I'm so happy to hear you give 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: it because you're just gonna keep it raw and away 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: and reel and I love that. But two, because I'm 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: a fan of you and I have been since day one. 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just excited to share this space with you 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: and for us to just chit chat and I feel 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: like we're gonna vibe really well. Oh yeah, I'm really 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: excited to do this, and again, thank you for having 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: me on. I can't wait to talk to our guests today. Yes, 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: we have a good one. I might be a little 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: bias when it comes to our guests. We'll get into 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: that in a second. But I feel like Demmy, you 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: and I need to catch up it's been a while. 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: You've you've come to that's a happy hour before, but 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: this time you're sitting in a different role. You're you're 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: a co host today. Yeah, and I feel sicial like 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: this feels really cool, honestly. And last time I talk 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: to you, I knew you had a relationship with Christian, 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: but at the time I didn't know the depths of it. 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: And now I've seen it all play out in paradise 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: and hello, now you're engaged. You're an engaged almost said, 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're engaged together. And I'm like, oh wait, bitch, 31 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: you're married now. Oh my god, that's awesome. But I'm 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: so excited for you. How is it. How does it feel? Oh? 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: It feels so good. She's just so incredible and I 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: just feel so lucky still that I get to be 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: with her where, you know, taking the engagement slowly. We're 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: not talking about wedding dates yet. I cannot handle that stress. 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, make it into my 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: new apartment right now in La I'm closer to her. 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: The other night, Oh my gosh, it's actually so funny. 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: It was super late at night. I made dinner and 41 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: I told her to come over, and she came over 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: and then we got a little drunk on some wine 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: and next thing I know, we're on my upstairs patio 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: putting together outdoor furniture and so like four am. I 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: thought you were going to say you were upstairs on 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: your patio doing something else. Oh no, I love it. 47 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I truly loved watching your relationship blossom. I thought it 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: was one of the most authentic things I have seen 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: on this franchise. There was so much depth to it, 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: and even you could it just came through the television 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: and it's honestly, it's shut the haters up because you 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: have had a few, unfortunately, but more than the haters, 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: you've had an overwhelming amount of support. Yeah, it's been 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: so beautiful. You know. At first, there was a lot 55 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: of people who were like, Lee, why are you still there? 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Why are the lesbians getting a free vacation and all 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: this stuff, And I was like, you know, we we 58 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: haven't ever gotten to actually explore this relationship with each 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: other seriously and committed to each other, and we hadn't 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: had conversations like we had started to have on the 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: beach in the real world. So of course we're going 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: to stay there because paradise is magical and that's the 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: place where you go to like really really dive into 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: a relationship and focus on it. And like I said, 65 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: those conversations were huge for us, and they were hard, 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: but they were so worth it and they got us 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: to the point where we're at now engaged. How does 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Christian feel that she survived her first bout on reality TV? 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Because my vibe of Christian is that she just seems 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: like a low key, you know, not into the fame, 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: just a real downass chick. And I'm very curious as 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: to how she felt about the whole reality TV thing. 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: She definitely didn't want to do it. That's not her jam. 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: She's not, you know, a reality star, she's not looking 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: for fame. She's used to being on the production side 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: of things. So that's how she was so comfortable with 77 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: it is because she does production stuff. She does commercial 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: She knows like how the cameras and everything work. So 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I think that kind of desensitized her a little bit. 80 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Whereas if it was someone who was not involved in 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: this industry at all, I mean, my job would have 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: been on the ground. I would have been crying, not 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: knowing what to do if I walked in on Paradise, 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: never being around a camera before. So that's why she 85 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: killed it. She did so good. She is so chill 86 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: and laid back. I think she's doing fine with it. 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: It's there's been a couple people who have like recognized her, 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: and she always thinks like that's so weird. But yeah, 89 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: she's good. I feel like you found the perfect balance 90 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: for you. Oh my gosh. Definitely I need her. Yeah, 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: so you moved to La. Did she moved to La 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: for Christian partial like part of it? Yes, I did 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: move for her. Also. I just I'm always having to 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: come out here and you know, for stuff like this, 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: so I don't want to keep flying back and forth. 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just move out there and then 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll get to be closer to my girl too. I 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: need to take a page out of your book. I 99 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: fly out here all the time too. I just need 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: to like get a place. I mean, you did let 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: me know last time that you have an extra room. 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: I do, so I might have to take you up 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: on that. Come a few times. Okay, shout out to Christian. 104 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: It's just all platonic. However, Brian amazing update me and 105 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: Rachel are in love. Okay, you guys, we could continue 106 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: this love fest that Demi and I have going on, 107 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: or we could tell you about who we have coming 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: up next on the podcast. Now, like I said, I'm 109 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: a bit bias. Our guest has a special place in 110 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: my heart. I call her Polly Pocket. You guys call 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: her Christina, and we'll be right back with her after 112 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: this Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. We are ready 113 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: to talk to none other than Christina. Christina, thank you 114 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: so much for joining us in the studio today. Thanks 115 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: guys for having me. I love you, Christina. I love 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: you more. Demi. Okay my turn, Yes, I love you too, 117 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: Thank you. No, I love you Christina. Are you ready? Now? 118 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: I have to say we're going to have a friendly 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: conversation here today. But I feel like I've I've gotten 120 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: some criticism because people think that I am too much 121 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: of a champion for you. But I think people need 122 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: to understand. We go way back and we have a 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: true friendship. We met on Nick Vile season. We've been 124 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: friends pretty much since the beginning and that's really carried on. 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: We've we've seen each other through a lot, have we not? Yes? 126 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: And I like that because you know me, so whenever 127 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: you're watching the show, you can see like who I am, 128 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: and you can see the TV aspector and whatnot. So 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. And I'm also not going to 130 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: take it easy on you, right right, I know that. 131 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting what you said about what 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm able to see from you because I've known you 133 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: over these past few years versus and our friendship has withstood, 134 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, the test of time, when others have not. 135 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: And as I love to say, these bachelor friendships are 136 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: fickle and fleeting, and our friendship is not. And I'm 137 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: proud of that. But I feel like you were misunderstood 138 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: this season's Paradise and Demmy, you've really had a chance 139 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: to know Christina, and I really want your perspective because 140 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: you were right there with her on the beach. I'm 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: observing this from a distance, but it's been two years 142 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: since you've been on the beaches of Paradise. Do you 143 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: feel like you're the same person this year that you 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: were when we first saw you on Paradise? And if 145 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: you're not, how have you changed? Yeah? Absolutely, it's been 146 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: two years since my time on the beach. I had 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: so much going to do because following Paradise, for that 148 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: following year, Dean and I actually tried. I'm still seeing 149 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: each other, so that was a very insightful and very 150 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: um I learned a lot from that relationship. Dean said 151 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: he was in love with you on the podcast. I 152 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: just want to say that on my podcasts enough. We've 153 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: never said it to each other, and I didn't didn't know. 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: On our podcast, Dean said that he was in love 155 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: with you. Wow, I'll say it was never verbalized, but 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: the feeling was mutual, I guess. So not to interrupt you, 157 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to say that, thanks, But yeah, no, 158 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I've had a relationship where I learned 159 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: so much from it. I've dated since, and I definitely 160 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: feel that I'm much stronger now. I'm not willing to 161 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: put up with so much bullshit. I don't know if 162 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I can say that yeah, oh yeare okay great? And 163 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: at this point, look, I watched myself on Paradise, and 164 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm a very sensitive person. So my sensitivity was perceived 165 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: as a weakness and I heard all about it, and 166 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: I think this time I'm going into Paradise, I wanted 167 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: to come off stronger, kind of like you can still 168 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: be sensitive, but you don't have to deal with bys. 169 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: And I don't think I knew the fine line to 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: walk because I just went from one extreme to the other. Yeah, 171 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: but you know, I think you're also being too hard 172 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: on yourself right now because you're taking into consideration the 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: audience's response to you being there at the beach with you. 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I had seen you on Paradise a few years prior, 175 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: and I was always a huge fan of yours, and 176 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, that poor girl, like she's just 177 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: she's still figuring herself out. You know, she doesn't know 178 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: her self worth or else she wouldn't be putting up 179 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: with this shit. And then I see you come on 180 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: to Paradise with me, and you were so strong, and 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: I was looking up to you more than ever, and 182 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, this is incredible. This girl came. 183 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: She is back, and she is not here to play. 184 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: She is not here to take anything she does not deserve. 185 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: She's strong, like you were so strong, and I mean, 186 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean it. I was so proud of you, and 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: so to see that you're getting hate for keeping it 188 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: real is frustrating, but it's classic TV that's what happens 189 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: when people are too real, too raw. There's going to 190 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: be people that hate on it. But I can tell 191 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: you being there with you, I have nothing but respect 192 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: for how you were this summer. I think, wow, this 193 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: is huge. I mean both you Rachel know me. You've 194 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: been with me for the past three years, and then 195 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: you Demmi, you've seen me as an outside on the 196 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: show and you've been with me on the beach, Like 197 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: this is this is all I need in this room 198 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, I mean you really, and that we 199 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: have a producer who's looking crazy right now because she 200 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: wasn't mentioned, but yes, Christina means you as well. And 201 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: I think what Demmy is saying is so important because 202 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I think in Batchel Nation a lot of times they 203 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: like to see the women not be so outspoken, not 204 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: be so opinionated. And when Bacher Nation first met you, 205 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: that's not how you were on camera, even though that 206 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: is who you are. You are opinionated, you are outspoken, 207 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: and you're very funny. I mean, no, she's so funny. 208 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: I remember that in Nick season. I'm very attracted to 209 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: funny people, and so we just had you swee some 210 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: of the best time. So what I The Christina that 211 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: I have seen on Paradise is the Christina that I've 212 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: always known, and maybe this is the first time that 213 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Batchel Nation has seen you in this way. How did 214 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: that make you feel when people kind of turned on 215 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: you from how they used to perceive you the first 216 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: go around? Okay, good question. From the first time, it's 217 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: it was nice because whenever I watch to show both 218 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise, I could see myself. 219 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: I was like, this is who I am, the cist. 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm a sensitive person. I care about people, but ultimately people, 221 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: which is so high on the pedestal that you know 222 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: you're not that person and even if you try to 223 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: live up to it, you can't. So when you I 224 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: don't know, it's not fallen from grace. I don't know 225 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: how to phrase it. But then you see this other 226 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: side of you where I was like, that's also who 227 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: I am. But on that beach, I was like, if 228 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: nothing else comes out of comes out of here, I 229 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: feel like I was myself. I was happy, I was strong, 230 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure where it went wrong where so 231 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: many people had so many negative opinions about me trying 232 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: to be strong but versus me being so sensitive, like 233 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: it's Paul or opposites, but both of those things are me. 234 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: People can relate more to being vulnerable than they can 235 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: to being strong, because it's hard to be strong. It's vulnerability, 236 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, beaut vulnerable takes strength exactly exactly. But I 237 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: think that it's easier for people to watch somebody like 238 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: you were a few years ago on Paradise and they 239 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: could relate to, oh, that's me going back to the 240 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: fuck boy every time, whereas seeing you, like like dominating 241 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: the beach and being like, no, I am who I am, 242 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to take any of this shit that. 243 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: People can't relate to that as much, so they're intimidated 244 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: by it, so then they criticize it. So piggyback off 245 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: of that. Going into Paradise this time, I wanted to 246 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: first have fun because it was too serious last time, 247 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: and I was very vulnerable. All of those things great, 248 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: but I wanted to have fun. I was open to 249 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: meeting someone, but ultimately I wanted to have that strength 250 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: to show that it's okay to come back and be 251 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: stronger this time around. So like it was again, I 252 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: don't know what happened you did amazing, and you were 253 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: smiling all day long every day. You really were happy. 254 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: You were living your best down there. I had fun 255 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: and I had a lot of great friends. I think 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: it's always like that, and then you watch the episodes 257 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: and you're like, wait a minute, she said, what about 258 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: he said this? So, okay, here come I was very open, 259 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more on the beach with what I 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: was saying, So go ahead. Well, here comes a little 261 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: bit more of a tougher question, because you say that 262 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: you came to Paradise and you wanted to have fun, 263 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: and you have this date card kind of like a 264 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: new opportunity, a chance for new beginnings and a chance 265 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: to get to know somebody new, and you give it 266 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: to Blake. And I don't know what Blake thought going 267 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: into that date, but you knew what you were going 268 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: to do going in and you confronted him. So why 269 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: to explain let everyone know, why did you decide to 270 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: give Blake the date card? And what were your intentions 271 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: behind the date were slim Pickens, Honey, yeah, thank you. 272 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: I didn't say that too, Okay, So slim Pickens I 273 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: would have been calling Christian too. I literally went, so 274 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: I came down to Beardi second day. But ultimately I 275 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: was like, I went to meet Connor, and of course, 276 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: not knowing who's going to be on that beach, I 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: knew Blake would be. I came down, I'm like, damn, 278 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: there's no Connor. But okay, I was like, okay, let 279 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: me talk to Dylan. I talked to Dylan. I talked 280 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: to Chris Bokowski, and then I pulled Blake aside and 281 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: I told him. I was like, listen, I'm here. We 282 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: do have some stuff to talk about, but kind of 283 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: like I kind of briefed him a little bit, and 284 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: then ultimately I sat down and interview and I said, 285 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: you know what, like I'm not really feeling anyone but 286 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: maybe Chris. And They're like, well, and I said, okay, 287 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I want to have fun. I know I can have 288 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: fun with Blake. So ultimately, when I pulled Blake aside, 289 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: I said, hey, this is a friendship date. We have 290 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: some stuff to talk about, but I know we always 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: have fun together, so let's go. And he said yes. 292 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: He wasn't blindsided by the conversation. Maybe he was blind 293 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't blindside by the conversation because he knew we 294 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: had something to talk about, but he didn't know what, Like, 295 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: what else do we have to talk about? I know, 296 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: but like we didn't. Something I've learned from Blake's been 297 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: on the podcast and just from watching is he truly 298 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: seems to be can be naive about certain situations, and 299 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: so I can see him not thinking the same thing 300 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: that you were thinking going into that conversation. Anytime, if 301 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I if I have something to say, kind of like 302 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: and it's not the right time. Even with Blake, every time, 303 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: I wanted him to pick up on my cues, kind 304 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: of knowing that something's about to happen, kind of like 305 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: whenever I went to on our last data and the 306 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: treehouse where I said it's not going to work. You 307 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: saw me struggle and sitting there. I'm like, come on. 308 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, like, pick up my cues. 309 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Because I was sitting there, I was huffing and puffing, 310 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: and then he was like, what's wrong. I was like, Okay, 311 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: he noticed something's going on, just because I can't flight 312 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: out say like by the way, I want to kind 313 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: of ease into it, have somebody mentally prepared. I did 314 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: everything I needed to for Paradise, but I still had 315 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: the contract up to three days before I was literally 316 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: flown down, and Blake continuously asked me for the past month, hey, 317 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: have you signed your contract? Every time I would pick 318 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: it up and show them, No, I still have it 319 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: in hand. And then I ended up signing it and 320 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I said, hey, Blake, guess what I'm going to be 321 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: in Paradise and he goes, by the way, I had something. 322 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I have something to tell you. The night after you, 323 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: I spent the night with someone else, and I was 324 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: really caught off guard, and I should be and I was. 325 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I just I panicked. I didn't know what to do. 326 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: I didn't want, like I wanted to have time to 327 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: process what just happened. And he kept calling me and 328 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: messaging me saying, like, let's talk about it. We can. 329 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: We talk about anything and everything. We always get through it, 330 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and I said, this is different. And I remember sending 331 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: him a message saying, Blake, I need time to process this. 332 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: And by that time we were flown down to Mexico. 333 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: So I keep thinking back having the conversation on that 334 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: in Paradise with him. Could it have been done prior, yes, 335 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: but it would have still been on my mind even heavier. 336 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to just brush it under the rug 337 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: and be like, Hey, everything's okay, and then see him 338 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: on the beach and being like, actually, it's not okay. Yeah. So, ultimately, 339 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: the conversation we would have take in place on camera, 340 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: whether it was on our day, whether it was on 341 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: the beach, you didn't have the time because it was 342 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: it was three days before, right. I think that there 343 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: you were involved in a lot of different storylines when 344 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: it came to Paradise, and one of them was obviously Blake. 345 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: Another one is Kaylin. And honestly that started before you 346 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: even got to the beach, because your name was on 347 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: the beach before you ever even set foot on it. So, 348 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: watching back, how did you feel about Kaylin talking about 349 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: your intimate relationships or relationship and certain things about your 350 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: personal life and you weren't even around. And mind you, 351 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: she didn't talk to not one person about it, two 352 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: three whoever would listen. I loved your tweet, by the way, 353 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: that was hilarious whenever you said but you were airing 354 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: out my dirty laundry before I even got to the beach, right, 355 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: I was like, well, she is not wrong. I mean, 356 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it was any of Kaylin's business to 357 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: talk about me and my sex life, if you'd say, 358 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: or any of my business to Blake or to anyone. 359 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: Like again, I had my situation with Blake, and I 360 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: took my time to talk to him, and as you 361 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: can see, like I came back down to Paradise and 362 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: I was talking to Tasia, but ultimately I was like, Tasia, 363 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: there's some history. That's why I took Blake on a date. 364 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: I wanted to have respect for you, just to let 365 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, like it was a friendship date and it 366 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: wasn't to rekindle things. So I didn't like that everyone 367 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: knew my business before I was even there, Right, So yeah, 368 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't blame you for that because you 369 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: were not there to defend yourself. And it's just uncomfortable. 370 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: If I never came to Paradise, right, so, my name 371 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: would have been brought up in that context. I had 372 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: no idea that Kaylyn and Blake were a thing. I 373 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: had no idea, Blake had no idea. It was like, 374 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: actually pretty crazy how the night that I found out 375 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: about it was the night I saw Kaylyn and Blake 376 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: talking and she was like bawling her eyes out to 377 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: him and I was like, wait, what, there's another one involved? 378 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I one thing that Kaylyn continued to 379 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: say was that you didn't like her. She made it 380 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: seem like before she even got to Paradise, which seemed 381 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: to be a part of her motivation in talking about 382 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: you before you even got there, is that you didn't 383 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: like her and you've been talking bad about her, And 384 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: even when you did get there, she was like, oh, 385 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: she's talking bad about me to other people, when in 386 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: actuality it was the other way around. So can you 387 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: clarify that for our listeners? Did you and Kaylin have 388 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: beef before all of this? Like? What is she talking about? 389 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm about the bathtub? Oh what? Oh well, actually, well 390 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: I am just I've never said about a word about Calin. 391 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Let's just say that are the beach off the beach? 392 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: I never They could all started with my perception of 393 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: her on The Bachelor on Colton season. I was like, 394 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: there's something that doesn't add up with this girl. But 395 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it was just my opinion, 396 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: and I think to Kaylin, my my opinion was, how 397 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: hide you up with this? To Kaylin, I think she 398 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: wanted to be the bachelorette. No, she did. Blake said 399 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: it when he was on here there you go. I 400 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: don't know how my opinion can change. I don't know 401 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: how much. Well my intro was feelings, right, it was. 402 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, like, I don't see how my 403 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: opinion can change so many minds. I doubt it can. 404 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: So if I think that's where Kaylin is bitter about me. 405 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: But again after my tweet saying something like I don't 406 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: know if I trust her. Um, I saw her a 407 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: couple of events, and I was nice to her because 408 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: ultimately I saw her on TV. Maybe she's one person. 409 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Maybe in reality she's a different person. And I was 410 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: nice until we went to Stagecoach, and and at that 411 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: point the same guy was involved. There's a whole story 412 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: to that. I never said his name and he anyway, 413 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: another guy was involved. And before Blake, Blake and I 414 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: have been friends. I'm sorry in reference to in regards 415 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: to Stage Coach, another guy was involved prior to Blake's 416 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: participation in Stage Coach, right, okay, right, Just to clear 417 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: it up, I met this guy and we had mutual interest. 418 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: He never communicated to me that he just wanted to 419 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: be like not exclusive. So I was led to believe 420 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: that something more can form from it, and we hang out. 421 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: We came down to stage Coach together until that following night. 422 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: I saw him and Kaylen taking a picture. Basically he's 423 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: on the ground with his legs open and she was 424 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: scooted into his crutch and he's like leaning over. I 425 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: was like, that does not look right given that we 426 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: just flew down. So I leaned into Kaylyn after the 427 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: picture and I said, Kaylin, just to let you know 428 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: this guy he's probably going to kind of have fun 429 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: with you and just like let you be kind of 430 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: giving her warning, giving her a warning. Yeah, And then 431 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: he looked at me and he was like, what did 432 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: you say? And I said, I just told her you'll 433 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: use and whatnot. Just basically trying to have Kaylin's back 434 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: to see the following dead that they're making out run 435 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: in front of me, and I was like, okay, I'm 436 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: just done. Like I don't want anything to do with him. 437 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with her, and Calyn 438 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: can do whatever she wants, but yeah, look at that point, 439 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: it's kind of validated my perspective on Kaylin and who 440 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: she is and I just didn't want anything to do 441 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: with it. Going into Paradise, I was I had better 442 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: things to do than talk bad about her or who 443 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: she was involved with. You feel like you were on 444 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: defense mode when you walk down to the beach of Paradise, 445 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: just because your name had already been there, and so 446 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: people already had these preconceived notions about you before you 447 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: could even say Hi. I had no idea people knew 448 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: about me. Why did you find out? Yeah? How did 449 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: you find out? I think, yeah, I'm trying to okay, 450 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: rip off the band aid. I had no idea what 451 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: people knew about me, maybe until Blake told me, And 452 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: would Blake say he just like casually dropped that maybe 453 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: I was or date. I'm not sure, but I know 454 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: I didn't know people knew because nobody even actually when 455 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: I sat down with Tasia that night after a date 456 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: and I told her about taking Blake on a date, 457 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: and she didn't say anything, so I was completely blinded. 458 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that we knew that whenever you came down. 459 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knew about Kaylin and Blake. I 460 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: knew about you and Blake having some kind of history. 461 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us knew about Kaylin. And 462 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: so that's why I was so crazy to watch her 463 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: back and see how much she had been talking about it, 464 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: because I never heard a word from it come from her, 465 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: and so a few weeks had gone by, and then 466 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: she started talking about it to me when maybe Petitia 467 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: didn't know when I told her about it, because Kayla 468 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: didn't tell her. She didn't, Yeah, Kaylin, and she came. 469 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: She came on the podcast and said she didn't know 470 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: until you told her. And then so she was just 471 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't even know Christina yet, and 472 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Christina is the one who's sharing me this information when 473 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: there are other people who I do know who haven't 474 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: even told me this. So you know one thing, and 475 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: I kind of want to jump around, because again, you've 476 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: been connected to several to several storylines from Paradise. I 477 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: want to make sure we hit everything. But one thing 478 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: I found interesting was when Dean came back for Kaitlin 479 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: and she decided to leave with him from Paradise. You 480 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: told Kaylin that even though you two may have your differences, 481 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: you were there for her if she needed anything. Did 482 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: you mean that? Yes? Because I've been that girl in 483 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: those shoes. I don't think she would, just because I 484 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: don't think she likes me when I just don't have 485 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: any I just I'm indifferent about Kaitlin. But I kind 486 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: of meant it because I want to have girls back, 487 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: because I've been that girl. I've been in the position, 488 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: and I know how I felt, and I wish someone 489 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: was for me that way. Yeah, in a certain way. 490 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: Um So if she came to me and she said 491 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: this happened, I will tell her like how to handle 492 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: it or how I handled it, and if she can 493 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: relate to it, we'll see. It's because like you're not 494 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: bitter and you're not gonna hold any grudges and ultimately 495 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: you care about making sure someone is okay, and that's 496 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the characteristic of a beautiful person. And I hope people 497 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: saw it that way, because that's like, you know you, 498 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: For you to say that. When you said it, I 499 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: was like, WHOA, that was really new, Chris in your eyes, 500 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: like you meant it. I didn't mean it's so cute. 501 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: Even though I said that, if the way I was 502 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: portrayed early on, like if it was in the better light, 503 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: people would have truly believed me. But the fact that 504 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: how my story was with Cale and portrayed nobody probably believed. 505 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: I think people see it now because I think slowly 506 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: people are starting to see the same way people have 507 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: seen a different side of you, where it's just you know, 508 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: you're outspoken and your opinion in it and you're strong. 509 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: People are seeing a different side of Kaylin. And I 510 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: think that you know, at the way that story ended 511 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: with her, I really think that it came out in 512 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: a positive way for you. I think that was really 513 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: powerful what you said. I think what people did have 514 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: an issue with. I think people moved on from Kaylin 515 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: and then they had an issue with this friendship Rose. 516 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: Oh of course it didn't. And it's almost that thing 517 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: where and I've never been to paradise, so please jump 518 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: in and cut me off, But it's that thing of 519 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: we know it exists, but nobody talks about it until you. 520 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: Everybody knows about the friendship Rose. Right like Kaylin kissed 521 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: Cam for friendship Rose. You know that was never going anywhere. 522 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: It happens, it's just not no one talks about it, 523 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: but you talked about it. So talk about your decision 524 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: to just say you know what this is, this is 525 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: what I'm after right now, and I have no problem 526 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: with the friendship prose to this day. If anyone else 527 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: wants to give out a friendship prose, I don't have 528 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: a problem. Ultimately, Blake could have said no, no, thank you, 529 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: he could have left, but he kept the rose. And 530 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: at that point I did see him struggle because like 531 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: he wanted Hannah, and I encouraged him. I said, listen, 532 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: what are you in Paradise for. He said, I want 533 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Hannah and I said go talk to her, spend some time. 534 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: And he didn't get her, and I was like, I 535 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: want him to stay around as a friend, and that's 536 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: why I gave him the rose. What is not shown 537 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: is the fact that he and I had many conversations. 538 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: I really truly had his back. I saw how he 539 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: was struggling, and since I wasn't in any well, I 540 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: didn't think I was in any drama, but I was 541 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: just trying to be there for him and he was struggling. 542 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: He would always play with his hands like this or 543 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: like zone out. That's why he would always just looking 544 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: far away into the distance. It was so sad, but 545 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: that's why I just wanted to be there for him. 546 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: I wanted him to find that love, which saigue into 547 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: this other person that came down Kay, Yes, Kate, whose 548 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: name I wouldn't remember if it wasn't written on the 549 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: paper sitting in Funny enough, she was. I was very 550 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: nice to her when she came down to Paradise. She 551 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: just kind of said by herself, and I was like, 552 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't want, I don't want. I don't want to 553 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: see that. And I asked her how to drink with 554 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: her in Toronto and I was like, well, if askedra 555 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: likes her because I trust asked it. And I was like, 556 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: I would be nice to her and just make her 557 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: feel welcome. So the confrontation from her came out of 558 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: left field for me. I was very shocked, surprised and 559 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: taken aback. M Forty five minutes later, you can see 560 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: me starting to bounce back and I'm like, enough is enough. 561 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: She would ask me a question I would try to answer, 562 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: she would jump in with a different question. And so 563 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: what we saw answer, what we saw was just the 564 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: end of you, like the end of the conversation where 565 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: you finally got fed up. Right, So like then, the 566 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: argument before that had been more like calm and civilized 567 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like you didn't just start popping off to 568 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: begin with. It wasn't. It was. It started with with 569 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: what's your intentions here? And all of that, and I 570 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: just sat there and I listened, but I was listening, listening, 571 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: and I was trying to answer and I can't. And 572 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: then ultimately I said, enough is enough. Look, I need 573 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: to say, why do you think she came and talk 574 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: to you? Because what we saw was her talking to Kaylin, 575 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: of all people, and who seemed to light a fire 576 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: under her and give her that like push her towards Yeah, 577 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: you should go talk to Christina at least that's how 578 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: we saw it as viewers. Why do you think that 579 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: she felt the need to come up and approach you 580 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: and with that way, in that way, what are your intentions? 581 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Because it's kind of very straightforward, right. So I don't 582 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: know how to answer this question. Because in the pool 583 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: earlier that day, we were all hanging out and I 584 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: was like, hey, Wake, you gotta give me the friendship 585 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: ros joking around. Kaylin was right there, she didn't have 586 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: a problem with it. We all hung at the side 587 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: of the pool. If you saw the three of us 588 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: in a row, like everything was fine. Again, That's why 589 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: I was really surprised the conversation I mean took place 590 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: with my intentions when she knew exactly what they were. Yeah, 591 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: this is like I think that that's unfortunately I got you, 592 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: and I was, to be honest as a viewer, I 593 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: was confused. It was like, why is Caitlin coming up 594 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: and approaching her like that. I'll never understand why people 595 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. It's use your energy elsewhere. 596 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: So I didn't understand it. So I could see your frustration. 597 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: I had no idea. It was a forty five minute conversation. 598 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: But I feel like and I was talking to Ali 599 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: actually off Mike about this, and I feel like people 600 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: really turned on you. They sided with Caitlyn instead of 601 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: you in that incident. And I think it was because, 602 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: like Demmy said, we saw the end of it where 603 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: you were like, um, honey, no honey, which I didn't 604 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: have a problem with. Honey, I didn't have a problem. 605 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: Was my favorite line in that conversation that you had 606 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: with Caitlyn. Why do you think people sided with Caitlin 607 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: over you? I think maybe how I approached it at 608 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: that point because I did get started getting defensive. I 609 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: was very frustrated. Because I was trying to answer a 610 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: question and I wasn't given a chance too, so she 611 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: was speaking more over me, and I felt out to 612 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: act that point. It was surprising because she knew my 613 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: intention and I told her. But I'm not sure how 614 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: to answer this. Why wasn't she at the reunion? She 615 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: probably would have said anything. That's what I That's what 616 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: I figured as well. I was trying to be nice 617 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: about it, but well, I asked a question rather than 618 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: just say my opinion. I think she was at the 619 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: women tell all and she didn't say much, So you 620 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: gotta go beg or go home. I was scared to 621 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: say anything because I was scared, like how it's going 622 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: to be jumbledop? God, it was just a little intense, 623 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: like it was a lot of energy. I know. I 624 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: was scared. Enardise to be fun and it was intense. Yeah, 625 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: there was. There were just too much happened before in 626 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: the world of sports. We referred to this as tampering, 627 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: and there was just too much tampering that happened and 628 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: it ruined it tainted Paradise and from and Jordan talked 629 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: about it on the reunion. You know, I and I 630 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: agreed with him with that, and so I hope that 631 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: moving forward. Obviously it's inevitable for people to DM and 632 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: you might run into someone, you might be represented by 633 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: the same person. But to the depths that we saw 634 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: this season, I think that it I don't know, it's 635 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: just not fun to watch in the same way. Now. 636 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: Granted it was fun the first week with like sorry 637 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: the text messages and everything and all that draw It 638 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: was like it was like, oh my gosh, is this 639 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: really happening. It was so entertaining. Um, it really was like, 640 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: this is a fucking depster fire. Yeah. I couldn't. I'm 641 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: here for it almost. I kept refreshing everyone's Instagram trying 642 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: to like see a response by anyone. Well, I was 643 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: there through it all, Like on the phone, right, you 644 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: were in that group text that accident. Only send the 645 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: messages to oh my god, the fuck up family group 646 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: text chat with a handful of Paradise people. If you're 647 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: not in there, so sorry, you probably were just not 648 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: in Paradise that long. But if you want to be involved, whatever, 649 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: you can be. Um, no one get offended. Um, but 650 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: Christina sends us all every single person in this group 651 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: message these screenshots of what Blake posted on Instagram, Blake 652 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: in the group chat, Blake and Deane and Kaylin, all 653 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: of them, and it just gets really awkward after that. 654 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, first thing when I do is I go 655 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: straight to Instagram and I'm looking at this and Blake's like, 656 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have to do this, Guys, I'm 657 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: so sorry, and Dean's like, you fucking coward. Like everyone's 658 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: just going at it. Well, then Bike calls man, He's like, 659 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: should I have not done this? And he is, I'm like, 660 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm conflicted because it's such a heavy 661 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: topic when it comes to something like that, because again, 662 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: the text messages are very intimate, we kind of all 663 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: have them. But again, he knew he was going to 664 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: have the roughest time post Paradise, like as soon as 665 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: we got off that beach and he was like, I 666 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. I heard that she said 667 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: a silence throw, which never happened, and ultimately, I honestly 668 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: don't know what he could have done too to be believable. Yeah, 669 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean when we had him on the podcast, and 670 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you guys haven't already listened, we really 671 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: had an in depth, in depth conversation with Blake and 672 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: so in depth that had to be two parts, and 673 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: he really explains his psyche as he was going through 674 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: all of this, and I think the theme with it was, 675 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, when Ali and I were talking to him, 676 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: we were like, listen, I don't we don't agree with 677 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: what you did, but we understand how you were backed 678 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: into a corner of desperation and really panicked and didn't 679 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: know what to do. But one thing I want to 680 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: ask you, Christina, is do you think that you made 681 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: any mistakes this time around that hindered one your ability 682 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: to find love, or to your ability to establish certain friendships, 683 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: or three just your ability to be understood. The main 684 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: mistake is going to Paradise. Really, Christina, I wouldn't love 685 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: Tommy as well. I know, girl, it was not a mistake. 686 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: You go in there, trust me. There's a lot of mistakes. Yes, 687 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: I think going into Paradise, yes, I wanted to have fun, 688 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: But I think I actually did clothes off myself to 689 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: a lot of relationships because I don't know. I think 690 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: I was scared again, but I wanted to put on 691 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: this that as female coming in and I just wanted 692 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: to ultimately wanted to send an example that it's okay 693 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: to go through these hard breakups and you come out stronger. 694 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: So maybe that was more of my goal coming into 695 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Paradise than actually finding love. Well, you were too good 696 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: for all of those washed up losers anyway, damn me, 697 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: way out of their league. I'm not gonna lie. Well, no, 698 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: the first thing we said when we were talking about 699 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: the episode slim Pickings, you were right. It was the 700 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: women were like badass and the men there were some 701 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: great choices, but just not to where you could be 702 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: compatible with them as much. I could see the struggle. 703 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: The struggle was real this season. I know. I went 704 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: onto Paradise, and again I was open because your relationship, Rachel, 705 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: it worked yours, dammy, but like for me, kind of 706 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: bring mine from back home. I love it, but still 707 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: like this your old relationships give me that hope that 708 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: it is possible to find it onto the but I 709 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: mean it just it just didn't work for me. Do 710 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: you think that we'll see you again in Paradise or 711 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe a winner Games if that comes back. I almost 712 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: wanted to Winter Games right anyway, Well, I don't want Look, 713 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to do any more Bachelor shows. 714 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: But again I said the same thing about this Paradise show, 715 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: this best one, that I wouldn't do it, And here 716 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: I was, so I don't want to just say hey, 717 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it and then be labeled 718 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: a liar if I do end up doing it. We 719 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: could just get our own show US three. Yeah. Yeah, 720 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I do well with love anymore. Okay, Christina, 721 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: this Paradise drama runs deep, and the tea is piping hot. 722 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect time to take a break 723 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back after this. We're back Bachelor 724 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I got my girl Dammi with me. We 725 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: are sitting here talking to Christina. She is in the 726 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: hot seat, and Christina, one of the things that really 727 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: got to me, and I was shocked by the turn 728 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: of events that took place with Blake and his relationship 729 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: with you. And I really want to know what you 730 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: were thinking, because we saw what happened. At the end 731 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: of the day, you decided that this isn't what you 732 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: wanted and that door was closed. But when Blake came 733 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: back around and said that he wanted to establish something 734 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: with you, what did you think the shoulder kiss. I 735 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: just have to come him on the shoulder kiss really quick? 736 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: What was the shoulder kiss? So awkwardly he was like 737 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: telling her he gave her the date card and he 738 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: was like leaning over like kissing her shoulder, and like 739 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: she wasn't, like she was just sitting there. And then 740 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: he's like, all right, well, go get ready in thirty 741 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: minutes and I'll meet you in the treehouse and he 742 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: like doesn't kiss her cheap like acts like he's a 743 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: bad too, and then he like walks off. It's the 744 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: most awkward saying. I think at that point Blake was 745 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: one hundred yards ahead of me, and I was like, 746 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can catch up. So it 747 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: started with yes, I've been here for him, there through 748 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: all of paradise, but shook as a friend, like I 749 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: gave him a friendship rose, and he honestly, when he 750 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: gave me the rose back post Caitlin, he said thank 751 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: you for now asking for this rose, like thank you 752 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: being for being there for me as a friend. And 753 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: I was like, great, this is going to be a 754 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: great friendship. And then I go on this date with 755 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: Luke and I come back and like goes by the 756 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: way I have feelings for you. I was like, oh what, 757 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, is it because I was gone 758 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: on a date and you missed me, like missed my absence? 759 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: And he goes, no, I just have feelings for you. 760 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, So I was really shocked and 761 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to respond to that. So you 762 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: could see it all over my face. Did you try 763 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: to make it work? Did you try to take those 764 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: steps to see if a relationship could work? So like 765 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: a little little, little little birdie, and my shoulder was like, well, 766 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: the fact that you're even thinking about it, why don't 767 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: you give a chance. And I was like, okay, that 768 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense. So I tried. I was like, okay, 769 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: let me see where this goes. But too much has happened. 770 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: Imagine being building a brick wall and first brick is Kaylin, 771 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: then Hannah, then Tatia, and my wall just kept going 772 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: up and I just removed myself so far that I 773 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: couldn't revisit it. And I also didn't want to be 774 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: a fourth option. Yeah, I think that's important, and I 775 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: could tell like the energy between y'all it was so awkward. 776 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: Once y'all started to try to have something. I could 777 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: see you basically running all over the beach trying to 778 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: get away from him, and he kept wanting to like 779 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: talk with you and pursue this, and I could just 780 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: see that you were over it. So I'm glad that 781 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: you didn't just like settle for something, because you know, 782 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: he was someone that you once wanted and something that 783 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: was comfortable and familiar. I'm glad that you said, like, 784 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: you know what, it didn't work, then I'm not going 785 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: to be a fourth option. I'm gonna leave. It's just 786 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: hard to It was hard to separate because I still 787 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: wanted to be there for him, knowing how Paradise was 788 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: going to turn out. Like I've been there with Dean, 789 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: so I knew how it was for Dean, and I 790 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: didn't want the same thing to happen to Blake. But 791 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: I also didn't want it to be look more romantic. Yeah, 792 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: so it was that separating they two. I was proud 793 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: of you. I was worried for a second. I was 794 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: proud when you were like, you know what, I don't 795 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: want to open the store. You know, I'm gonna move on. 796 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: You need to move this way. I'm gonna move this way. 797 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: But we can move together in friendship. I was proud 798 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: of you, girl, because I was concerned for a second 799 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: at your reaction with Brie. Oh yeah, do you want 800 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: to explain that I was hungry? I'm so out of context. 801 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: It is so out of context. So I got a 802 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: plate of food. Yes, I was so serious, angry. Oh, 803 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: I think I was having a breakdown. Everything was boiling 804 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: down at that point because okay, So I saw Brie 805 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: at the wedding and um, yeah, she and I talked, clicked, 806 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: everything was great. And the night before Brie came, Blake 807 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just I'm just interested in you, only you. 808 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: I won't accept the date from anyone, Bree or whoever. 809 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: And I was a great I trust you in that. 810 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 1: And then that following morning, I got food, got asked 811 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: to go into the interview, which I did. I came back, 812 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: my food was up, and at that point Blake and 813 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: we have already talked and they were like, hey, Blake 814 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: has something to say to you. I was like, I 815 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: am hungry, and they were like, just wait a second. 816 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: And that's where I just went into the bathroom and 817 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: I just had a complete mit meldown. I never want 818 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: to see you in your again. I always carry a 819 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: granola bar in my purse when you're around something I 820 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: need to care, a grilled cheese in your purse. I'm 821 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: bar gonna do it for her. I felt so bad 822 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: because I was I knew Blake was going to tell 823 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: me something positive, but my mindset was elsewhere. I was 824 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: already Honestly, when to be fair, in those mornings, whenever 825 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: you first get up in Paradise and you have to 826 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: get ready, so you're already up by the time you 827 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: get to the pool to have like the breakfast time, 828 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: You've been up for like a couple hours by now, 829 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: and the only thing you care about is eating. Yes, 830 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: it is the only thing that's on your mind. And 831 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: whenever you get prevented from eating, immediately all help breaks loose. 832 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I found some major tantrums. Well, now I 833 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: understand when Danielle ord Low dropped the pizza and everybody 834 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: went into a panic. Okay, now it's it's it's making 835 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: sense a full circle. So listen, where do you stand 836 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: with Blake today? We're still friends. I mean, I will 837 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: always care, but I want to start removing myself from 838 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: with these guy friendships because I think I invested so 839 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: much time and somebody else's caring for them that I'm 840 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: not focusing on myself. You're a good friend. I'm a 841 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: good friend, and I am very loyal and I will 842 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: stand by you. But ultimately, I think I need to 843 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: care for myself because I've gotten broken down throughout this 844 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: whole process because I was trying to look hold somebody 845 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: else up. So we're good. So where do you stand 846 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: with Dean? Dean? I think we're good. We haven't spoken 847 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: since Paradise, and I wish him happiness. I think he's 848 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: doing well. He sounds better, and I'm almost like proud 849 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: because seeing him now, he seems to be a better 850 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: version of himself. Yeah, so I think he admits that 851 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: as well. He wasn't the same person he was when 852 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: he was with you that he is now. So where 853 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: do you stand with Kaylin? Has she come to you 854 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: for any advice? No, I don't expect her too, but 855 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: it's there, so I would definitely. It's just there's certain 856 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: people you want to keep in your life quality over quantity, 857 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: so she's not one of those. In fleeting there we go. Yeah, 858 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: that's a terrifying way to put it, but it's true, 859 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: what's next? What's what's in the future for Christina Shulman. 860 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: What's in the future. This is a tricky question. Obviously. 861 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: I have my fears to like falling back into this 862 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: post Bachelor's show quote unquote depression, because it could be 863 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: such a high and such a low, and then a 864 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: high and such a low. I don't want to do that. 865 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: I think I want to focus more on empowerment and 866 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: just say initially why I came into paradise. I want 867 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: to live that through and have a woman look up 868 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,959 Speaker 1: to me just because they have been for the best 869 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: three years, and I don't want that to go away 870 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: just because this sort a certain version of me on 871 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: the show. Well, hey girl, I look up to you 872 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: more than ever after spending all that time with you. 873 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: She was talking about you before you even got here. 874 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: I thought, wait a minute, am I better friends with Christina? 875 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: And I love that? And I think that you've grown 876 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot from the experience, seeing from where you started 877 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: to where you are now. And I love that you 878 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: say empowerment. I you know, we've had several people in 879 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: here who really want to use their platform in a 880 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: positive way, and I want I want that to continue. 881 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: And I think that you told a story, your story 882 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 1: on NIX season of the Bass Story, and it was powerful, 883 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: and that might have gotten lost with people. We haven't 884 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: heard it in a while. And I really think that 885 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: you have a story that nobody else can tell. And 886 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: I hope you tap into that and share that with 887 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: America whoever else, because I really think that it can encourage, uplift, 888 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: empower someone else. Absolutely, it's a beautiful story. And I 889 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: remember how much it touched me whenever I watched, And 890 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: maybe that's like one of the reasons I always admired 891 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: you the most because you know, you didn't have it easy, 892 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: and I think that you could empower a lot of 893 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: people by speaking on that and reminding people of where 894 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: you came from and how positive you choose to look 895 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: at life now and like how great you are. And yeah, 896 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: this is making me emotional a city here, because yeah, 897 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: people cry when they come on this. I cried, Demise cried, 898 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: Ali's cried, Blake cried. You're in good company, Christine shed 899 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: and Trader too. Yeah, but let us be here for you. 900 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 1: You're always there for everyone. Let us like having that story. 901 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with how 902 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: like who I am today and just putting myself on 903 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: such an natural scale for people to judge. It's like 904 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: I grew up with trauma, which I think a lot 905 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: of people have too. But I'm still willing to be 906 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: vulnerable and putting myself out there forever one to criticize. 907 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: But also ultimately, I think it inspires more people than criticism, 908 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: so I want to continue doing that. It's a sign 909 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: of strength. And I think that you were heavily misunderstood 910 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: this season. And I hope that all of our listeners 911 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: really have listened to Christina tell her story and you 912 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: can better understand her from it, and maybe if there's 913 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: a hater or two out there, for them our podcast 914 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: so they can hear how Christina really is and you 915 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: can hear the vulnerable side of her. And Christina, I 916 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: hope that you continue to live your life in color 917 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: a phrase that was developed from Nick season by you. 918 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 1: I wish you all the best. Thank you so much 919 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: for joining us on bats A Happy Hour today. Thank you. Oh, 920 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: I love you so much, Christina, thank you. Thank you 921 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: all right, and next week, guys, we'll be talking to 922 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: Kevin and Astrid who just got engaged. Can't wait to 923 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: hear all the details about that, and guess what, Demmy, 924 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: we'll be back as my co host for another week. 925 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: If I'm more excited, Demmy's more excited, or you guys 926 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: should be excited. Dynamic love so much. In the meantime, 927 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: you can get all the latest bats or news on 928 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: baths and a dot com right now, and you know 929 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: what's up you guys. 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