Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, our Tanking for tam Posey
Speaker 1: and welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm coming to you
Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg
Speaker 1: what is up? Boys? Listen to that music? Ride it out.
Speaker 1: I don't know what tanking for tam Posey means. We
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, there'd be a prize at
Speaker 1: the end, but we already have her working for us,
Speaker 1: So what would we be gaining if we put a
Speaker 1: terrible year's worth of episodes out to come in last
Speaker 1: place among podcasts. We're on our way, yeah, not far off.
Speaker 1: This is our Friday news rundown program. Very exciting time
Speaker 1: for the show because not only are we back to
Speaker 1: three podcasts a week, we have the NFL Network program
Speaker 1: which is also airing digitally. So we're recording that today
Speaker 1: goes up. Where where can people get it if they
Speaker 1: want to watch the digital version today Friday? NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. I think at six pm Eastern three
Speaker 1: pm Pacific. I think they're putting it on YouTube streaming.
Speaker 1: You know, you can check it out on the network
Speaker 1: eight am Eastern tomorrow eleven am Eastern, a little Saturday
Speaker 1: morning with the kids. Forget like I like to log
Speaker 1: onto that like twenty two pound desktop computer we have
Speaker 1: in that one room that no one's using and watch
Speaker 1: it on I don't know, it's just like a gigantic
Speaker 1: piece of you. Haven't you own a desktop still? I do?
Speaker 1: You know? It's not you gotta bring it to the
Speaker 1: new house or just like that's getting lost in the mix.
Speaker 1: That could be one of those things we've had success
Speaker 1: just putting large objects at the end of our driveway.
Speaker 1: Then like a guy in a truck comes by and
Speaker 1: takes it away about eight seconds this and I could
Speaker 1: be the last time you ever see this entirely fake background.
Speaker 1: Have you used like offer up or let go those apps?
Speaker 1: Some guy came in a pickup truck and picked up
Speaker 1: my b stro set yesterday and handed me fifty bucks cash.
Speaker 1: We got. We've gone the less storny free route. We're
Speaker 1: just sticking it out. We're in. We're in, you know,
Speaker 1: the the eleventh hour of this shift across the city.
Speaker 1: So you don't have anything to add, Dan, I mean
Speaker 1: it's good. I'm glad you got a plug in there
Speaker 1: for a company marks telling us about the stuff he's
Speaker 1: putting on the street corner. But we got stuff to
Speaker 1: do because, like I said, we're doing a podcast today,
Speaker 1: we're doing a video show, and uh, it's all there
Speaker 1: for you the listener slash viewers. So if you listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast after it goes up on the digital
Speaker 1: side at NFL dot com today, no, you can watch
Speaker 1: on NFL Network tomorrow morning. And uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: giving you guys content for the rest of the summer
Speaker 1: until our formats switches up a little bit or scheduling
Speaker 1: once the season begins, and we'll tell you all about that.
Speaker 1: It might be familiar to last year, but with a
Speaker 1: little bit of a difference as well. Were crimes and
Speaker 1: is starting in under four weeks. The kickoff game is
Speaker 1: I would already already happened, Uh four weeks from now,
Speaker 1: the Snoopy Bowl would have been played tonight, by the way,
Speaker 1: So that's the real loss here. If you look at
Speaker 1: what happened to the country over the last six seven months,
Speaker 1: the Snoop Peo Bowls disappearance, that's v Giants. The game
Speaker 1: really hasn't been the same since Rex has been gone.
Speaker 1: But that's that's life all right, before we get into
Speaker 1: the news and this is just a news rundown show
Speaker 1: because like I said, we're very busy today, but we
Speaker 1: need to be in touch with our wonderful listeners. I
Speaker 1: do have some developing news. Okay, so you guys know.
Speaker 1: Obviously on Wednesday's show, very exciting, we rolled out our
Speaker 1: new fan club. It is the Bengals Den. In this club,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even really know what it is.
Speaker 1: We go place, we go a place, we visit and
Speaker 1: then so that's it got off to a nice start there.
Speaker 1: But then um a listener, Josh Rosnowski and great job. However,
Speaker 1: you got a name like that, shut up thor whenever
Speaker 1: you got a name like that Rosnowski and then you
Speaker 1: can just bang it out at Rose and then you're
Speaker 1: just Rose for the rest of your life. That's not
Speaker 1: bad anyway. Roz hits up me Greg and Mark. Greg
Speaker 1: never saw it here. It is just listen to the pod.
Speaker 1: Great stuff is always one thing though, Bengal Tigers don't
Speaker 1: live in Den's. They sleep in the open or wherever
Speaker 1: they happen to be. Lions live in Den's, hence why
Speaker 1: Ford Field is called the Den. Who knew maybe the
Speaker 1: maybe the Bengals rest. I don't know, it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: right to me. What do you mark? This feels like
Speaker 1: something we need to rectify. Yeah, it tell us. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I did a little bit of work on
Speaker 1: on my own because we were very correct in general.
Speaker 1: I mean, they originate in India. I felt that they swim,
Speaker 1: they can swim from island to island. But it left
Speaker 1: me no closer to um a name suggestion. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you what where we are with that?
Speaker 1: What does point out that Bengal tigers and then maybe
Speaker 1: the Bengals are bigger badasses than lions going out from
Speaker 1: like hiding in their den Tigers? I did. I did
Speaker 1: see the tweet right before we started and checked its accuracy,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, they usually just like sleep out
Speaker 1: in the open, right next to the prey that they
Speaker 1: just eat ate. I mean, what's more badass than that?
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. So here's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Since there is no den, we got to get him
Speaker 1: out of that den. Uh So what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: is we're gonna move him to a sanctuary and will
Speaker 1: become our Bengal sanctuary and uh to do that? Listen, Greg,
Speaker 1: you think it's problematic, We're just getting started. Um Ricky,
Speaker 1: let's uh yeah, let's let's move these bangles. Just the
Speaker 1: tranquilizer dart. Don't worry. Are you sure that was a tranquilizer?
Speaker 1: Is that allowed? Pretty sure? This is a tranquilizer gun.
Speaker 1: Let's bag attack these suckers and get into the sanctuary.
Speaker 1: And now we're gonna have a Bengal sanctuary. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. We're gonna take care of them. We were
Speaker 1: just taking them away in a forklift. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's gonna be interference from certain groups. I think said
Speaker 1: the word sanctuary means that they're ultimately like rescue animals
Speaker 1: that couldn't survive on their own in the wild. I
Speaker 1: don't think you would call it a sanctuary if you're
Speaker 1: like brutally um hurting them. I knew you would have
Speaker 1: a problem with this. I'm just saying I've been the sanctuaries.
Speaker 1: The kids love the sanctuaries. It's all like tigers, and
Speaker 1: you know, they were found in some place where they
Speaker 1: can't live, so they it's the only way they can.
Speaker 1: Someone trying to bat they are as a species. Greg,
Speaker 1: you gotta get your head out of the clouds. How
Speaker 1: do you think these uh tripod tigers get to the sanctuary.
Speaker 1: You can't just pick them up and put a leash
Speaker 1: on him. Well, they just take them there on on
Speaker 1: the metro or something very safely, no problems. It's everything
Speaker 1: is being done in a humane manner. Now we have
Speaker 1: this beautiful sanctuary. And at the end of the season, Greg,
Speaker 1: and this, I think we'll make you feel better. We
Speaker 1: plan to set them free in an open field Bombay,
Speaker 1: Downtown Bombay is my plan. Downtown, beautiful, beautiful Junglehara the Sahara.
Speaker 1: You know, I think they like that. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: take care of him. All right, let's do some news
Speaker 1: now that we've tackle that right now, the block there
Speaker 1: is Drake dropped the video at midnight, Drake, who you
Speaker 1: may remember number five on the top ten things I
Speaker 1: Love about Canada. He's doing the thing, He's doing Drake stuff.
Speaker 1: And that was Marshawn Lynch Beast Mode himself jacking up
Speaker 1: Drake in the open field and then insulting him and
Speaker 1: a nice little interlude. Greg, you look very confused. Well,
Speaker 1: the whole yeah, I hadn't seen the clip without oh
Speaker 1: b J and Drake the song in general where he
Speaker 1: seems to be coming after Push the T and kind
Speaker 1: I don't know Drake, you know this this part of
Speaker 1: the Drake career not as into right now what about you,
Speaker 1: Ricky seems to be an agreement. Um. Yeah. The the
Speaker 1: video's really really funny, like Drake's crying and he's like
Speaker 1: in a Nike store, like repetitively, like the Nike balls,
Speaker 1: Like it's like we get who paid for your video?
Speaker 1: The headquarters in or Yeah, it's insane, his whole video.
Speaker 1: It's so it's worth checking out, and it's very funny.
Speaker 1: It's not a good song. He is the most streamed
Speaker 1: artist mark you're you're big on streaming. He is the
Speaker 1: most streamed artist in the history of music. He actually
Speaker 1: surpassed Eminem somewhat recently. So Drake is, on some by
Speaker 1: one measure, at least, the most successful artist of all time.
Speaker 1: I think he's hit that level or period of his
Speaker 1: career now where he's probably peaked creatively, but he's more
Speaker 1: famous than ever. So the music will probably continue to
Speaker 1: go down, but his fame will continue to stay where
Speaker 1: it is, and I think it comes through artistically and
Speaker 1: little things like if you watch that video, the kind
Speaker 1: of the hook, the verbal hook of the song as
Speaker 1: he goes baby over and over and all through the video.
Speaker 1: He has things like he comes out of submerged water
Speaker 1: and says baby. And one time he's like on a
Speaker 1: basketball court and he gets dunked on he turns his
Speaker 1: head he was baby Like. All he's trying to do
Speaker 1: is at a a meme. He's just trying to go
Speaker 1: viral at this point, so he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I like I jumped on the
Speaker 1: Tailor Swift bandwagon late. I don't This doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: the right I want to jump on. Not not right now.
Speaker 1: I do feel like people our age though I'm including
Speaker 1: the guys in the room now that we're all over forty.
Speaker 1: You know, Dan is right there with us. I feel
Speaker 1: like our our era probably doesn't have enough respect that
Speaker 1: Drake is. He will go down with like like Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson and Prince for younger generation. Is that influential and
Speaker 1: that in like one of the greats which made you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta give him, you gotta give him that respect,
Speaker 1: which I don't know if he gets from the over
Speaker 1: forty crowd, but he will. Look he got it from me.
Speaker 1: Top five best Canadian things. Hey, Also, you guys, fun
Speaker 1: little nugget our podcast listeners. Um it shows you who
Speaker 1: listens to around the NFL on Spotify, and one of
Speaker 1: the top streamed artists from our listeners happens to be Drake.
Speaker 1: So let's not alienate him. We love. We're like thirteen
Speaker 1: minutes into this show. We've covered uh, you know, Bengals Layer.
Speaker 1: We were being scolded for, you know, going slightly off
Speaker 1: track about ten and a half minutes ago. And look
Speaker 1: where we are. Is there anything else that's going out
Speaker 1: in the street corner this weekend? Mark? No. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot more I can offer, but it's it's
Speaker 1: a nobody cares. Nobody cares at all, I don't think.
Speaker 1: So I'll just I'll see you when I get to
Speaker 1: the next place. And it's the Bengal Sanctuary. Uh. We
Speaker 1: don't want to get any more tweets. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get to it. Tight ends getting paid in the NFL.
Speaker 1: George Kittle and the forty niners in agreement five years,
Speaker 1: seventy five million of that seventy five million total. More
Speaker 1: than half of it is made up of guarantees thirty
Speaker 1: million guaranteed as signing, forty million guaranteed for injuries. Still
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. Eighteen million arriving being a
Speaker 1: signing bonus. It makes them the highest paid tight end
Speaker 1: by a wide margin, surpassing Gronk. But guess what happened next.
Speaker 1: Right after that signing, Travis Kelsey got a deal done.
Speaker 1: Interesting interesting numbers here, four years, fifty seven million dollars
Speaker 1: keeps him in case for the next six seasons. The
Speaker 1: deal is worth between fourteen and fifteen million per year
Speaker 1: and new money average. Kelsey older uh than Kiddle. He's
Speaker 1: turning thirty one in October, but he had two years
Speaker 1: left on his deal. And Greg riddle me this because
Speaker 1: you're good with the cap numbers and things like that,
Speaker 1: or you're the closest to being a competent in this
Speaker 1: realm on our podcast. The Chiefs had no room, had
Speaker 1: no cap space according to figures that were public a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. And then they signed Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: to a half billion dollar deal and then made the
Speaker 1: tight end travels Travis Kelsey the second highest paid tight
Speaker 1: end in league history. How did they do it? They
Speaker 1: backloaded them. They are not you know, Patrick Mahomes especially
Speaker 1: is not making that much money in cash or anything.
Speaker 1: Over the next two years. He got a bump, But
Speaker 1: once you spread that money over the ten years of
Speaker 1: the Mahomes contract, he actually saved a little money with
Speaker 1: that half a billion dollar contract. And then Kelsey, it's
Speaker 1: the same similar thing where they're pushing a lot of
Speaker 1: the guarantees into the future. They're spreading the money out.
Speaker 1: They did not have to do this. This was absolutely
Speaker 1: um a move that they are telling Travis Kelsey how
Speaker 1: much they value him, that they think they're getting a
Speaker 1: solid deal on him long term. Um. But that Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes contract, which was very team friendly, as strange as
Speaker 1: that sounds, I think made it more possible for them
Speaker 1: to sign Chris Jones and for them to sign Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: and uh that that's all part of the mix. Like
Speaker 1: the guarantees are coming later in the deal, they're pushing
Speaker 1: a lot of money into the future. You're smiling with Dan.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in a place now to where, you know,
Speaker 1: all team players all around the league. You've got these
Speaker 1: guys that they will spend the whole off season talking
Speaker 1: about the money they should be making. They want to
Speaker 1: be the highest paid this or that, and their team
Speaker 1: goes four and twelve. The Chiefs are very dangerous right
Speaker 1: now because they have three super key components that this
Speaker 1: offseason agreed to team friendly super team friendly deals that
Speaker 1: allow allows this nucleus to stay together. It's team friendly
Speaker 1: in the sense that there's no signing bonus for for
Speaker 1: any of them. You've got Kelsey's breakdown over the years.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I'm not saying it's bad for the
Speaker 1: player either than making a ton of cash, but you're
Speaker 1: not gonna find a lot of teams where the players
Speaker 1: talked about, we just want to be here, we want
Speaker 1: to keep this together. I think the Seahawks um had
Speaker 1: to had to sign a bunch of guys to a
Speaker 1: bundle deals years ago their whole defense. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to keep it together with this case.
Speaker 1: You can look at Mahomes and Kelsey, and I think
Speaker 1: Kelsey is the He's not going to fade in the
Speaker 1: next year or two. The way that he you look
Speaker 1: at his career, I just think he's he's gonna live
Speaker 1: through most of this contract. It's his third one. I
Speaker 1: loved the deal for the Chiefs and maybe a little
Speaker 1: less so for Kelsey. Two years left. Usually get paid
Speaker 1: with two years left. I mean, it's a type of
Speaker 1: contract that Patriots never get. Rob Gronkowski and I and
Speaker 1: I was tweeting about this, and like people had a
Speaker 1: conversation sort about, Okay, Kittle got way more than the
Speaker 1: next highest paid tight end in the league, but he's
Speaker 1: still getting less than the top ten wide receivers. It
Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense. And I think it goes back
Speaker 1: to Rob Gronkowski, who signed a contract in the after
Speaker 1: two years of his contract to start his career. Um
Speaker 1: that he played the entire thing out. He was by
Speaker 1: far the best tight end in the league, and uh,
Speaker 1: he was dramatically underpaid. I understood why he took the
Speaker 1: contract at the time. It was only two years into
Speaker 1: his career, three years off of a back surgery that
Speaker 1: people thought was chronic, and he was setting himself up
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. But the Patriots weren't
Speaker 1: given contracts like this that the Chiefs gave to Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 1: That's for sure. It speaks to the culture of fear
Speaker 1: and intimidation that was going on behind the scenes when
Speaker 1: the Patriots were special, when Belichick held all the talking
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady Rob Gronkowski, the two greatest players in
Speaker 1: the history of their positions, signing way below market deals.
Speaker 1: At the time, people thought that they were taking a
Speaker 1: huge risk because he had just got surgery. Continues to
Speaker 1: resonate to this day, hurting players in the walls. Because
Speaker 1: Bill wanted what Bill wanted, he got it, He got
Speaker 1: those rings, and he got those guys under contract. It's
Speaker 1: kind of silly, though, that tight ends make that much less.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really make less than Jarvis Landry. He's to me,
Speaker 1: he's as valuable as any single wide receiver in the NFL. Right,
Speaker 1: But there's probably like four or five tight ends that
Speaker 1: we're talking about that deserve these big wide contracts. Well,
Speaker 1: of course, but every I mean, the position itself shouldn't
Speaker 1: as a whole. Elevated ends don't do anything. He's the
Speaker 1: most important pass catcher in their offense. He is one
Speaker 1: of the most important blockers on their offense, so he
Speaker 1: affects all phases of the game. Uh, maybe that's something
Speaker 1: that gets a drest than time. But if it's not
Speaker 1: happening for Kittle. Now, I don't know who it's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be that's going to get that wide receiver money.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Everson Griffin off the market. The four
Speaker 1: time pro bowler has signed with the Dallas Cowboys after
Speaker 1: ten years with the Vikings. He signs a one year
Speaker 1: deal worth six million dollars. We're getting wild now, by
Speaker 1: the way over on the dot com in terms of
Speaker 1: I know, we wanna make sure all the males are
Speaker 1: fed on who did the reporting, but we got a
Speaker 1: triple We've got a triple source attribution here according to
Speaker 1: rap Sheet and Tom Pellicero and Jane Slater, all three
Speaker 1: of them have reported this, so I think it feels safe.
Speaker 1: We triple sourced our own reporting there within our own building.
Speaker 1: That's the next level. Usually as as an insider, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you go for the triple source, and that comes
Speaker 1: from three sources outside the building. What we're doing, what
Speaker 1: we're doing here at the NFL dot com is we're
Speaker 1: triple sourcing internally before so that would be nine sources
Speaker 1: outside the building three times three unless unless you know,
Speaker 1: the same insiders are getting peppered by the same sources,
Speaker 1: which I think would that that probably feels likely to
Speaker 1: and they're all Steven Jones. Basically, it feels like a
Speaker 1: move where I think Tom and Jane, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of broke it together and then Ian just tries to
Speaker 1: jump in and get his name in there. How about
Speaker 1: this just for the sake of a copy, because Mark,
Speaker 1: you and I remember this on the desk and we
Speaker 1: when we are all the A T N writers, why
Speaker 1: don't we just create a person like a Frankenstein Ian
Speaker 1: Pellis later we don't have to put all these names.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of that. Don't anyway, I doubt
Speaker 1: that you will. Let's get the focus back on ball
Speaker 1: thirty two years old Griffin. We know he can play.
Speaker 1: He's had some off the field um issues that uh
Speaker 1: lad to struggles for him at the end of his
Speaker 1: Minnesota run or or took him off the field. But Mark,
Speaker 1: the feels like a really nice value add for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys who get a proven player at a cost that
Speaker 1: is well below what you would expect a player of
Speaker 1: Griffin's ability. I love it for Dallas. I mean, we
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that there really just wasn't someone
Speaker 1: across from DeMarcus Lawrence that the pass rush was weak. Um,
Speaker 1: you put them on a line that also has Gerald
Speaker 1: McCoy don Terry po. I think this was a wonderful
Speaker 1: move for Dallas at at a great cost for one year.
Speaker 1: They have sort of NFC title game vibe to me
Speaker 1: if things go right, and you know, Griffin, Griffin has
Speaker 1: talked about like he with those issues that he dealt
Speaker 1: with two years ago, that he is continuing to work
Speaker 1: with the right people to make sure that that doesn't
Speaker 1: bubble up again. You know, not super sure what's going
Speaker 1: on with all that, but last year he was very productive,
Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of it's it's a loss
Speaker 1: that after being linked to returning to the Vikings all
Speaker 1: along and so many changes in Minnesota that they that
Speaker 1: they didn't get Everson Griffin back and he goes to Dallas,
Speaker 1: a team that probably will vie for a division title,
Speaker 1: were with the Vikings for a wild card spot and
Speaker 1: potentially could be the difference here. Well, the Vikings didn't
Speaker 1: want him. I don't know what the story is there.
Speaker 1: He's certainly one of the most productive players for the
Speaker 1: Vikings over the last ten years, including last year he
Speaker 1: had more knockdowns QB not like QB hits uh than
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa and Aaron Donald. He was in the top
Speaker 1: twenty in hurries to he's in you know, top ten
Speaker 1: in knockdowns and and had eight sacks too, So so
Speaker 1: something was going on. But they had no interest in
Speaker 1: bringing him back because why do you think though, because
Speaker 1: they mentioned that they were open to it months ago,
Speaker 1: So maybe it was a mutual thing, but they certainly
Speaker 1: weren't interested in paying them very much money or ust
Speaker 1: they would have. I mean they gave they gave like
Speaker 1: nine million dollars to a nose tackle and Michael Pierce
Speaker 1: from Baltimore. Uh, they're starting, uh a seventh rounder from
Speaker 1: three years ago at defensive end and Dallas, who I
Speaker 1: thought was really thin upfront. They still have very much
Speaker 1: a boom er bus kind of defensive line. Is McCoy
Speaker 1: and Poe free agents and ald and Smith and Griffin
Speaker 1: all gonna work together. Well, I don't know, those are
Speaker 1: all kind of like upper aged guys, you know, at
Speaker 1: the back half of their gear. But they all were
Speaker 1: pretty productive last year on paper like that could be
Speaker 1: the key to their team. If that defensive line is great, uh,
Speaker 1: they could fly and and if not, then the secondary,
Speaker 1: which which doesn't look nearly as great, could could get exposed. Mark,
Speaker 1: this is not really related, although it as Cowboys related.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that they could be a team you see
Speaker 1: gets to the NFC Championship Game. Do you realize, boys
Speaker 1: and listeners, that the Dallas Cowboys have not even made
Speaker 1: the conference championship game in the NFC in a quarter
Speaker 1: century getting to the Super Bowl. They haven't even gotten
Speaker 1: to the NFL's version of the Final Four in twenty
Speaker 1: five years since they won the Super Bowl in the
Speaker 1: I mean they were perfectly there was how how more
Speaker 1: milk toast could the Jason Garrett experience have been? And
Speaker 1: they hung around with that much longer than some teams would.
Speaker 1: But I am aware of that because I think that, um,
Speaker 1: the draping over Jerry Jones for a long time has
Speaker 1: been all, you know, all the hoopla draping the team
Speaker 1: like they take our shots on Jason Garrett. But Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett got there in two thousand and ten. There were
Speaker 1: before that. It's on it's I think pre midway through
Speaker 1: Garrett's career. I think Jerry Jones and then you're throwing
Speaker 1: Steven Jones. Let the front office change some of their
Speaker 1: strategies a little bit. Their drafts improved, and they have
Speaker 1: the roster now to get to an NFC title game
Speaker 1: if things go right. And had a good quarterback though
Speaker 1: for fifteen years now in a row. So that's so
Speaker 1: that's a disappointment. That's stat I think, if not a
Speaker 1: surprise to Dallas fans, that's for sure. That is like
Speaker 1: mentioned every morning on Dallas radio. It's kind of the
Speaker 1: John Abraham uh stat for the Jets that the Jets
Speaker 1: have not drafted a pass rusher since John Abraham. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the ND I've seen that twice in
Speaker 1: copy regarding the Jets. Athletic Yeah, had it, and I've
Speaker 1: seen it twice in the build up to the season.
Speaker 1: Connor Hughes, Yeah, of the athletic. No, the Jets have
Speaker 1: not had a pass rusher since the John Abraham trade
Speaker 1: in two thousand five. It's it's been a while. But uh, alright,
Speaker 1: another position though, So I can see why they they'd
Speaker 1: go elsewhere you don't really need. But you know what's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like even the Jets, who stink and they don't know
Speaker 1: how to do anything, it seems they went to the
Speaker 1: their conference title game twice in the last eleven years,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys twenty five years. It's almost impossible, uh to believe,
Speaker 1: all right. The Falcons added Todd Gurley this offseason. They're
Speaker 1: hoping that he finds the fountain of youth. They're hoping
Speaker 1: that what the Rams believed that they once had a
Speaker 1: franchise altering talent running back, but knee issues made him
Speaker 1: a pedestrian player, and they decided to take a financial
Speaker 1: bath to just move on from Gurley. Dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: company welcome in Gurley. He will be limited, it appears,
Speaker 1: once the team gets into legitimate training camp practice. This
Speaker 1: from Vaughan McClure, great name of ESPN, and McClure added,
Speaker 1: and you could arch your eyebrow here that Gurley has
Speaker 1: been spotted limping while he walks at practice and wearing
Speaker 1: a one of those compression socks over his surgically repaired
Speaker 1: and arthritic left knee. However, this is how you This
Speaker 1: is the old you know Cecila on the fence and
Speaker 1: Sam McClure covered himself. He's also moved very well in practice.
Speaker 1: M hm, sit on that fence. McClure, Well, I mean
Speaker 1: he's reporting he's watching you know, he's watching non padded practice.
Speaker 1: I'm just having some fun. Put put on the Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley tape. That's all I need to see, you know.
Speaker 1: It's it's this weird thing. People are like, well, if
Speaker 1: you know, if Todd Gurley like gets right, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: he's second in the league and carries over the last
Speaker 1: two years he's been on the field. We've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of Todd Gurley since midway through two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 1: And he's and he's air and he's fine. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a running back who he ran hard. Last year
Speaker 1: didn't make many people miss. I would say was around
Speaker 1: league average for a starter. I'm surprised he got the
Speaker 1: contract he did. Like, it's wild to me he got
Speaker 1: about the same amount of money that Everson Griffin got
Speaker 1: and that Bruce Irvine got from Seattle. Seahawks fans, by
Speaker 1: the way, trying to convince themselves that they didn't want
Speaker 1: Everson Giffin. Please, you're paying Bruce Evan more money than Griffin.
Speaker 1: Come on, what Seahawks were doing a right? I followed
Speaker 1: too much of Seahawks Twitter, and there was a lot
Speaker 1: of like, oh, well, we didn't want Everson Griffin. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting that Greg Greg is very
Speaker 1: plugged in on certain Twitter feeds and pockets of Twitter,
Speaker 1: but then conveniently didn't even see certain tweets that we
Speaker 1: raise up into conversations. So I don't, I don't. I'd
Speaker 1: like to mute at all those people. Well, are you
Speaker 1: insinuating that he's lying to us that he sees that. No,
Speaker 1: because I think Greg is. We all have our quirks,
Speaker 1: and I could see Greg muting and not seeing certain things.
Speaker 1: I could I could see that happening. And I don't
Speaker 1: have any more analysis on that topic. Alright, And other news,
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, Todd Gurley to gurl always seems
Speaker 1: like a good guy. I'm bummed because we live in
Speaker 1: l A and um, he really is kind of a dynamic,
Speaker 1: charismatic type dude, it seems, and he should have been
Speaker 1: a big part of the city's sports landscape. But man,
Speaker 1: he's still sport read ads or is that power aid
Speaker 1: whatever it is? Those ads? I think it's on during
Speaker 1: the NBA. It's every five seconds, and it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's the biggest stars in sports, you know. It's like
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper and whoever, and Todd Gurley, and I was like, huh,
Speaker 1: it's interesting that girl is still in there those billboards.
Speaker 1: What I hope it wasn't Powerade, Like Powerade is like
Speaker 1: the Wrangler jeans to Gatorade's levies. Maybe it's Gatorade. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh. In other news, the Bills do some business.
Speaker 1: They give their left tackle Dion Dawkins a four year,
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar extension. Rap sheet and rap sheet alone boarded.
Speaker 1: The deal is worth sixty million with thirty four million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: This is another hit by the front office in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: a two thousand, seventeen second round pick who was entering
Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. So you you know,
Speaker 1: you play out your deal and you get to the
Speaker 1: final year, then your team takes care of you. It's
Speaker 1: not that complicated. Now he's tied to Buffalo through Hey,
Speaker 1: what are you trying? What are you trying to say? Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Oh, it goes back to Jamal Adams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get to Jamal in a second. But it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of patients. You know, Axel Rose taught us
Speaker 1: about patients on the part of the point. Yeah, yeah, patience. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Dawkins has started forty three games and three years in Buffalo. Wait,
Speaker 1: but he's started the same amount of money, the same
Speaker 1: amount of games as Jamal Adams, right, and of him
Speaker 1: start they took care of is that during the final
Speaker 1: year of his So this would be the time to
Speaker 1: pay Jamal Adams I think by that logic, right, Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't have the opportunity because the Dallas Cowboys called
Speaker 1: my GM, and my GM picked up the phone and
Speaker 1: that was it. That was the end of the relationship.
Speaker 1: A lot of money this is this is kind of
Speaker 1: gets to my Kittle thing, like you just have to
Speaker 1: be kind of like an average starting left tackle. Maybe
Speaker 1: Dawkins is a little better than that. He's a good
Speaker 1: young player, he's a good starter. If you find a
Speaker 1: left tackle, you just keep him. But he's kind of
Speaker 1: getting the same as George Kittle money that I guess
Speaker 1: that just it just is interesting to me how how
Speaker 1: that works. Well, I just think there's no questions about
Speaker 1: the left tackle market and the tight end market should
Speaker 1: have tight ends and then st like super tight ends,
Speaker 1: like there's four or five of them. Those guys make
Speaker 1: that money. That should feel a little too close to
Speaker 1: it does even even if I just like many STD
Speaker 1: ease as possible. How about pg tes pretty good tight
Speaker 1: ends get less in v G T E s the
Speaker 1: SDD format two SDD offense, that's what we like. They're
Speaker 1: very stable on the offensive Lion buffalo, that's what you're
Speaker 1: looking for. This was a terrible offensive line for years
Speaker 1: and years, and it is one of the hardest things
Speaker 1: to kind of rebuild. I think it's gonna be your boy,
Speaker 1: Joe douglas biggest challenge here. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're a great offensive line, but they're stable, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be fine. They're not gonna be
Speaker 1: the reason that the Bills season goes off track or not.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Jamal Adams, defensive coordinator of the Jets, Greg
Speaker 1: Williams got himself. He stepped in it a little bit.
Speaker 1: In his Zoom meeting with the media on Thursday, Adams
Speaker 1: came up and the context was, you know, what's going
Speaker 1: to be the difference between the way Greg Williams used
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams as a jack of all trades on his
Speaker 1: defense and and what's gonna happen now that Adams is
Speaker 1: playing for a different team over the of the Northwest.
Speaker 1: Here's how the eloquent Greg Williams put Jamal made get
Speaker 1: bored there because they don't use their safety type things
Speaker 1: and all the different complexities of maybe um, maybe uh,
Speaker 1: you got it right, not showing what they're doing as
Speaker 1: much as we do. I mean, can I can I
Speaker 1: speak for the grant the triple g's out here. Greg
Speaker 1: Williams is one of us that that's stumbling he had
Speaker 1: was him realizing as he was talking, Oh, I just
Speaker 1: stepped into it again. I just for no reason, I
Speaker 1: said something that was unrelated to the question. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't really mean spirited, I don't think, but I just whoops,
Speaker 1: I just stepped into it. Well, and I think I
Speaker 1: already gave them the headline that the headline, Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: will be bored in Seattle. I gave him the headline.
Speaker 1: Now I've got to find a way to massage this.
Speaker 1: And he he wasn't prepared to do the massaging, and
Speaker 1: things went off the rails like mid stream. He's realizing
Speaker 1: that he's taking down the architects of the Legion of
Speaker 1: Boom and like cam Chancellor responded to this, Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: probably has a few words to say about it. Greg
Speaker 1: Williams took Dr Brial Peppers and played him about forty
Speaker 1: yards deep for an entire season two years ago in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: What mean you knew what he meant? But I know,
Speaker 1: I don't think he was mean spirited. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just like he just you know what, these there's
Speaker 1: too many people talking all the time. Williams is a
Speaker 1: excellent defensive coordinator. I mean, I really do think he's great.
Speaker 1: The Jets, who had almost no talent last year, besides
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, we're a top ten defense. Me and West
Speaker 1: used to be arguing about Greg Williams on this podcast
Speaker 1: back in uh now it could be you and West.
Speaker 1: It would be fun. He's also the most successful head
Speaker 1: coach in the history of the Cleveland Browns present. So
Speaker 1: this man has had some football success. Well, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be your head coach in about two months. So you're
Speaker 1: signing up for the same ride. And then he'll be
Speaker 1: gone and the Dan defends Greg Williams. Uh campaign will
Speaker 1: end at that point. People will have no more. By
Speaker 1: the way, Pete Carroll said, you know, we're so we're
Speaker 1: so simple here and basic, you know we probably won't
Speaker 1: get it to any of that stuff, you know, that
Speaker 1: might be a good idea. And then later and you
Speaker 1: could tell Pete Carroll was was annoyed because he brought
Speaker 1: it up out of nowhere. They asked what Adams brought
Speaker 1: to uh the team as a pass rusher and he said, well,
Speaker 1: he's not bringing Greg Williams with him, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: and late later said the Seahawks defense that doesn't make
Speaker 1: as many mistakes as that Greg Williams defense. So it
Speaker 1: was good. They're all just speaking, they're all speaking facts.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets had a better defense than the
Speaker 1: Seahawks last year, but I'm sure the the Seahawks will
Speaker 1: probably have a better defense than the Jets because he's
Speaker 1: an impact player. Um, all right, finally in the news,
Speaker 1: do we hit everything? I think we got everything? Not
Speaker 1: a huge not a huge news. The helmets are on,
Speaker 1: but they're not really like tackling, and so I think
Speaker 1: it feels like Monday is like the the almost unofficial start,
Speaker 1: like real football. Do we hit the Bengals? Then thing?
Speaker 1: Yes we did. Hey, Ricky, was that did you check
Speaker 1: the ballistics on that? That was a tranquilizer dart? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds yeah. I was for sure. I don't want
Speaker 1: Peter or anything coming after us. Almost it was definitely
Speaker 1: a tranquilizer Dart. I mean that that would have Peter
Speaker 1: coming after you, wouldn't it there. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: tranquilizer dart all scope of you know. I think we're
Speaker 1: trying to take these as safe place. He's still bring
Speaker 1: back out the truck. It looks like we could be
Speaker 1: bagged another one. I mean, I I respect the Bengal tiger.
Speaker 1: Put put any one of us in a room with
Speaker 1: a Bengal tiger. We'll see, we'll see how many jokes
Speaker 1: and sound drops you're doing. Wait, what's your take here?
Speaker 1: I'm saying us versus a Bengal tiger, we're stuck in
Speaker 1: a room. You're not gonna be It was arguing with
Speaker 1: you on that taking them to a sanctuary, a safe place. Mark.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right what Greg is failing to understand here,
Speaker 1: because I see Greg is doing the thing where he's
Speaker 1: going towards the Wow, this bits a little too far
Speaker 1: beyond the pal know what we're taking what we're doing
Speaker 1: with the Bengals. We're taking him to a sanctuary and
Speaker 1: we're taking care of them bagging and tagging them, and
Speaker 1: then we set them free at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: Just it's a little nap, a little tranquilize, or just
Speaker 1: what are you trying to accomplish in these months? Well,
Speaker 1: we stuffed them into a den, and apparently you do
Speaker 1: not do that with a bangal tiger. That's for lions.
Speaker 1: So we had already we had already liked Greg Williams
Speaker 1: stepped in it, and now we need to kind of
Speaker 1: retrace their steps, step out of the poop and try
Speaker 1: to we have to rectify the situation. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: your final step is to drop them off in downtown
Speaker 1: bomb Bay. I think we might that might need some
Speaker 1: rewriting that that just sounds like it'll human chaos. We
Speaker 1: have time. Oh before we go, we have breaking news.
Speaker 1: This courtesy of the Latest Banger from Nick shook Over
Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com. Yeah, boy, Mark Baker Mayfield admits
Speaker 1: he lost himself in ten, but he feels better getting
Speaker 1: back to the basics. I like everything I'm hearing out
Speaker 1: of Cleveland, including the fact that you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like this wasn't even allowed back then. But um Stefanski,
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, their coach, got on a plane and flew
Speaker 1: to Texas to hang out with Baker Mayfield for a
Speaker 1: bunch of time in February, and uh everything since Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield's body looks tight, Arrow up, Arrow up. He also said,
Speaker 1: you know, they asked them about, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: all those challenges they have, and he said, We've said,
Speaker 1: as a team, the more time we do complaining, that's
Speaker 1: the less time we have to work. This is a
Speaker 1: new that's my mantra. This Erica, do we still have
Speaker 1: another breaking news? I got another one for you. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. I think our network show started right. Our
Speaker 1: micropod must get Let's do it, Erica. Tavon Austin is back.
Speaker 1: You thought he was gone when he signed that big
Speaker 1: contract on Hard Knocks four years ago. He's on the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. They signed J. J. Nelson to their Their
Speaker 1: receiver group is not looking too good with Deebo Samuel Hurt.
Speaker 1: By the way, you're looking for a reason for the
Speaker 1: forty Niners and take a step back, counting the count
Speaker 1: a lot on Brandon Aiyuk, a rookie receiver, and wait,
Speaker 1: you also have them. You had their secondary on the
Speaker 1: come down. Well, they look like the best team in
Speaker 1: football in some ways. But I'm trying to look for
Speaker 1: some ways that maybe they could run into prop. You're
Speaker 1: signing Tavon Austin. Davia Nelson one of my favorite tropes ever,
Speaker 1: and it finally stopped this year because he only now
Speaker 1: he's just a camp body more or less. But Tavon Austin,
Speaker 1: uh when I don't know who it was. It was
Speaker 1: maybe one of the Jones boys, maybe Stephen Jones. So
Speaker 1: that Tavon Austin last summer was gonna get like fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty touches the game, and I think he had
Speaker 1: fifteen for the entire season. That is a former top
Speaker 1: ten overall pick. Tavon Austin, who and still one of
Speaker 1: the most shocking moments in Hard Knocks history, got a
Speaker 1: fat contract extension h during that Hard Knocks season. I
Speaker 1: can't believe Jeff's Fisher and all Jeff Fisher Diden survived.
Speaker 1: I can't believe less Sneed survived that contract. Well West
Speaker 1: Sneed friend of the show. But I will say there
Speaker 1: are a couple of contracts out there in Ramsy. That's
Speaker 1: not how I operate. Mark. He got a call it
Speaker 1: as you see it, you know, we don't. We could
Speaker 1: talk about friends all day on this show. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've just we've just put like a wreath of flowers
Speaker 1: on Greg William's head. So I don't buy a word
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, it's all about what works for today.
Speaker 1: I did not put a wreath of flowers on Greg
Speaker 1: Williams head. Times you have since last offseason. He's a good,
Speaker 1: divisive coordinator and the best Browns coach of all time. Well,
Speaker 1: I see what you're trying to do, but I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to fall for it this time.
Speaker 1: He's the best coach on the Jets staff, which means
Speaker 1: they're totally disorganized. It's fine, they'll be fine. Twelve and
Speaker 1: four Shock the World Baby, Alright, alright, be again. We
Speaker 1: got a network show coming up, so check that out
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. D v R it. In fact, if you
Speaker 1: have it already recorded. I checked my own direct TV.
Speaker 1: It will record, but double check if you have a
Speaker 1: season pass uh and and give us some love or
Speaker 1: watch it in real time. It's very early potentially, but
Speaker 1: do it and we'll be back Monday with another episode
Speaker 1: of this their audio show, Let's Go. Dan Hands is
Speaker 1: signing off Quiet Story Bilbos, Ricky, Holly West, Holly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gill my day,