WEBVTT - Luke’s Diner: You Wanted Something Festive

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in again.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just do.

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<v Speaker 1>Luke's Diner with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one of our

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<v Speaker 1>productions iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, iHeart Podcast. We are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing another episode of Luke's Diner with none other than

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Morrow. And we're gonna discuss what he does in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen, his cooking shows, even he's got a little band.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna bring him in any minute now. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back after these words.

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<v Speaker 2>I heeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening, Scott? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I like that? You got a drum kit back there?

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<v Speaker 1>You drummer.

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<v Speaker 2>My son's a drummer. I'm a guitarist. We have bands.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a band, He's in two bands. We do

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<v Speaker 2>it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell our listeners, our audiends, what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>I am? What's going on here? Jeff Morrow is an

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy nominated chef, television personality and host. And you're from

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<v Speaker 1>Oak Park, Illinois, known as the Sandwich King. And you

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<v Speaker 1>gained fame after winning season seven of Food Network Star Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations and fourteen pressing judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cracking your career really now you meant how young

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>You impressed the judges with your humor, Jeff and your charm.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I prove that it's a fan creative approach

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<v Speaker 1>to handheld meals. And You later hosted Sandwich King and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four Dollars in twenty four showcasing your love four

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<v Speaker 1>sandwiches in Chicago's culinary scene. Since twenty fourteen, you have

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<v Speaker 1>been the co host of the Food Networks hit series

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<v Speaker 1>The Kitchen alongside Sonny Anderson, Katie Lee and others. Also

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<v Speaker 1>hosted Kitchen Crash, and has served as a coach on

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<v Speaker 1>Worst Cooks in America. Jess is also the founder and

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Marl Provisions. What inspired this love of sandwiches?

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<v Speaker 2>How did it?

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<v Speaker 1>How did it become a culinary trademark?

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<v Speaker 2>How tell us my first job, you know, fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>slinging sandwiches at the local deli, trying to make some

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<v Speaker 2>scratch for you know, my turbographics sixteen games. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, I was always in theater too.

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<v Speaker 2>I always did Second City youth programs in Chicago from

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<v Speaker 2>the time I was in third grade, all the way

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<v Speaker 2>throughout high school and college, and I always loved comedy

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<v Speaker 2>in the stage and when I had my first job

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<v Speaker 2>at a deli and experience not only the crafting of

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<v Speaker 2>food and learning how to make soups and schmears and

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<v Speaker 2>salads and sandwiches obviously, but like that interaction between the

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<v Speaker 2>person ordering it and that deli case was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stage for me. So I can also create in cook

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<v Speaker 2>which I always loved doing. Come from a giant family,

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<v Speaker 2>food was paramount, but like it was at exchange, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can really lighten up a person's day with a

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<v Speaker 2>little humor in that exchange. And I always viewed the

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<v Speaker 2>deli in the sandwich is an extension of that is just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the greatest connection. And I went to culinary

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<v Speaker 2>school later in life, and I did all that, I've

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<v Speaker 2>worked in restaurants, but to me, like the interaction between

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<v Speaker 2>the customer and the delicate testineer was the word I

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<v Speaker 2>made up, but like it was always in exchange that

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<v Speaker 2>was greater than just putting food out on a plate

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<v Speaker 2>and not knowing the results.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know, deli's are underrated, aren't they like diners

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<v Speaker 1>and delis, and we were just I just had some

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<v Speaker 1>friends come up from La were outside of La Now

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<v Speaker 1>and we went to this deli and we had the

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<v Speaker 1>best time. We were there for hours and hours and

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<v Speaker 1>hours in that booth, eating this incredible chicken pot pie

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't seem to and we were just laughing and crying.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were laughing so much with tears were streaming

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<v Speaker 1>down ours because we're in this comfortable space. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't this snooty place where you couldn't let loose,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's the beauty of it, right. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite Chicago inspired dish that you make at home

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<v Speaker 1>or make for your friends or your family.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably my most popular that gets requested is in that

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<v Speaker 2>my family makes and that the internet makes. Is my

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago style Italian beef pot road style done in the tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like melding these two words worlds like my classic

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<v Speaker 2>French training with you know, my my my down home

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<v Speaker 2>you know, neighborhood style Chicago training, and it's like our

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<v Speaker 2>Italian beef sandwich obviously very popular, made pop even more

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<v Speaker 2>popular by the bear. You know, usually big raised, slow

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<v Speaker 2>roasted chuck rolls different tougher to me, shave thin right

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<v Speaker 2>and you dunk it in the gravy or the ajew

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<v Speaker 2>and it's this on the spongy bread with the jardin

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<v Speaker 2>era and the sweet peppers and you need it. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't replicate that at home unless Scott and I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're into food, but do you have a deli

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<v Speaker 2>slicer at home? Probably not. It's not a very common,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, countertop appliance in America. I mean, I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>sandwich gang. My wife won't let me have one, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what. Now on you know, it takes up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of real estate. So my recipe, which you can

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<v Speaker 2>find on on food network dot com, it it mimics

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<v Speaker 2>that without the need for a slicer by taking that

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<v Speaker 2>chuck and slowly braising it in wine, in beef stocks

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<v Speaker 2>and aromatics and herbs so it's pullable. So you get

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<v Speaker 2>this like almost just soft melt in your mouth texture

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<v Speaker 2>that you do on the same bun with the same peppers.

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<v Speaker 2>And then but the key to this in any sandwich

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<v Speaker 2>you make at home, there you're trying to replicate let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, fast food smash burger or a

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<v Speaker 2>hot dog from the hot dog stand, or even like

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<v Speaker 2>an Italian sub from the deli, right, is you got

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap the sandwiches for like a minimum a minute

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<v Speaker 2>to two minutes in butcher paper or deli paper and

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<v Speaker 2>just let it sit and let it chill out. So

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<v Speaker 2>something magical happens in there. Depending if it's a cold sandwich,

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<v Speaker 2>something magical happens. But it just marries up in there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of really solidifies the relationship, right, consummates with itself

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrapper. And uh, you know that's probably my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite go to because whether it's like, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching the game or having a bunch of people over

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<v Speaker 2>stays nice, it's there. You can eat it for three hours, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, right, beautiful, beautiful. All right, So we watched this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>right just forget this this stuff? Episode ten? So the

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Berger? What do you think of the Santa Berger?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I saw it, okay, and I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was like, no way, Like my first

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<v Speaker 2>question was like how many of these were sold at Luke's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like how many did he?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What was because that wasn't a La Minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that was the one he made for her, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it. It wasn't even a special, no I

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<v Speaker 2>know that's not that's that's lovely. It's the sentiment is

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<v Speaker 2>is huge. But I don't you know, even her character

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<v Speaker 2>do not want to take a bite of that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>we do that they try to make us. Like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been on the kitchen right on every Saturday, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like we explore some of the internet's finest things a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the time that you you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>viral foods that are on the internet just to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get a click or alike. But like that's we find

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<v Speaker 2>that food shape like creatures, right, sometimes don't just don't

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<v Speaker 2>hit like you want them to, you know, like like

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<v Speaker 2>the we've made like cheeseballs that are in the shape

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<v Speaker 2>of penguins with like olives for a beak, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get that orange, you know, peppers for the for

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes, and you got all this stuff. You like,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time you craft it and you look at

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<v Speaker 2>this cute little thing, nobody wants to eat that, And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad, you know, I was, like, he put

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<v Speaker 2>all that work into it, and she's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>eat that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dam right, it's not having it. It's not having it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got appreciate the effort. Right, He's an artist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was just really the point, right, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay apple tarts they served him at the Gilmore family

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas party. I think, do you make an apple tart?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I am? I'm a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>like a cheat quick apple tart using a puff pastry

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<v Speaker 2>store bought. And if you have, like you know, come fall,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a lot of like my people, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it on like apple picking. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever been apple picking? Have you is

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<v Speaker 2>a human?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I picked a lot of apples in my youth.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was gone on a sojourn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an organic, spontaneous apple picking. I wouldn't say it

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<v Speaker 1>was planned.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we go, Oh you didn't go on an event? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with a loved one to go pick apples

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<v Speaker 2>for the afternoon. It's a miserable experience. There's bees everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're left with like literally a bushel of

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<v Speaker 2>apples that that's like a eighty apples. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna do with them? So I always wait

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<v Speaker 2>for that time of year, and it's like my in

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<v Speaker 2>laws or my friends down the street that still have

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<v Speaker 2>little ones. I have a six year old boy, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to take you know, that ship is saled.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no apple picking in our immediate future. Like when

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<v Speaker 2>these people bring me their bounty and they're like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you want some apples. Think they're gonna give you four apples,

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<v Speaker 2>they give you, give you like eighteen apples, which is

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<v Speaker 2>barely making a dent into a bushel. So I'm there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's when I tart it up. Because it's usually

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<v Speaker 2>nice green like tart apples and that stuff. You only

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<v Speaker 2>have stuff laying around the house that you can whip

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<v Speaker 2>this up. And all you need is to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>procure the store abought pup pastry, and I'll do it

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<v Speaker 2>in a large or medium size like cast iron skillet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, break down those apples with butter and sugar

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<v Speaker 2>and brown sugar in like vanilla bean paste, and just

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<v Speaker 2>make it this ouyguy thing and then just literally like

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<v Speaker 2>put the puff pastry on top, finish it in the oven,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that puff pastry kind of drips down the

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<v Speaker 2>side and then you can turn it out the pan

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<v Speaker 2>and you kind of have this like quick and easy

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know cheat apple tart, but man, something about

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<v Speaker 2>an apple tart to me, especially if you have some

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<v Speaker 2>ice cream with it, or fresh whipped cream. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan, way more than like like classic apple pie.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you have fun cleaning that pan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, It's not as bad as like cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>a burger in there or a steak. Is way harder

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<v Speaker 2>because of the fond that's left over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you got to pro So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>do it? I mean, okay, So this is the question

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<v Speaker 1>I have because I just got two cast iron skillets.

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<v Speaker 2>I love them nice, I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>I cook my omelets in there for my boy. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a ten year old. I cook them and we

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<v Speaker 1>do we do the salmon in there. But boy, it

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<v Speaker 1>really sticks right, no matter how much olive oil I

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<v Speaker 1>put in. So now, so let me let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this the technique for cleaning. Here's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fight that what's left over too much. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to dry it. I want to get a dry

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<v Speaker 1>fast right. You don't want to let it sit, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wait until the next day it's all dried, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I scrape all the stuff up. So I do

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<v Speaker 1>it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, if you're going to leave it a

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<v Speaker 2>month with all that stuff on there, right, it'll just

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<v Speaker 2>probably rust up and right then you got to like

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<v Speaker 2>re season it. That's a whole pain in the butt.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you like salmon's precarious, right, because even if

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<v Speaker 2>you put a lot of oil on there, I would

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<v Speaker 2>always start with the skin side down and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>not hot enough, but that's I'm sure you're getting your

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<v Speaker 2>cast iron band hot enough, you know, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>stuff sticks. But for me cleaning it up, like I swear,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is people say no soap, no, just

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<v Speaker 2>warm water in a brillo pad, and you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes my I was like, just can you please clean

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<v Speaker 2>this band? She will not touch the cast iron pants.

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<v Speaker 2>She bleeds that up to me, and I'll just a

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<v Speaker 2>little soap, little warm water, scrape it down with the

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<v Speaker 2>abrasive side of the sponge, get everything up. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I think the most important thing to do is to

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<v Speaker 2>just write I dry it, don't let it air dry,

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<v Speaker 2>dry it, and then just a little bit of neutral

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<v Speaker 2>oil on there. Oh, really rub the oil in there

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<v Speaker 2>and put it back in the pan before you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Neutral oil like we use avocado oil or a canola

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<v Speaker 2>oil or a vetcha oil something like. Besides olive oil.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you want to something heavy duty, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you just light coating just so it shines up nice

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<v Speaker 2>and that'll keep it a from rusting, and we'll prepare

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<v Speaker 2>it for nonstickedness the next use, okay, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of beat it up a little bit with

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of soap and warm water. You know

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<v Speaker 2>you can, okay, I mean people get crazy. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to see the reflection in these. There's a whole community

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<v Speaker 2>out there that try to get their cast iron skillet

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<v Speaker 2>is nonstick as humanly possible, right, because it is like

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<v Speaker 2>nature's best way to achieve a nonstick surface with eggs omelets,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sticky salmon without having to go to like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the chemical route or like the teflon route.

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<v Speaker 2>Then got a lot of you know, people misuse those

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<v Speaker 2>and hang on to them too long. The next thing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're eating bits of this chemical. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>proven to be very bad for you. But there's other options.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that obsessive. I use my like if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make an omelet, I'm gonna use like I like

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<v Speaker 2>the hex clad pants. I think it's a nice happy

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<v Speaker 2>medium without you know, all that coding on there. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always gonna use fat and that's kind of what people,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, want to remove themselves from. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, a little bit of butter or

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit olive it on the pant, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's gonna kill you is you're you trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make this cast iron things slick as possible by

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<v Speaker 2>like treating it like a newborn baby. Slow down, put

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<v Speaker 2>your energy to something else. Maybe take care you know

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<v Speaker 2>of your family first. Stop neglecting your kids, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>or running around on your old lady. How about we

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<v Speaker 2>start with the home first. Make your own bed, you

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<v Speaker 2>got you got me rolling here? Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make your perfect burger? What's what do

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<v Speaker 1>you put in the burger? What do you do? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty twenty chuck. Here's here's the thing I don't preport,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I try to get the freshest chuck possible

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<v Speaker 2>from the butcher case, not the pre cell of faint stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, sometimes you take that home, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>red and you open it up and then there's a

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<v Speaker 2>great meat inside a little little extra chocolate center in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't want that, so I'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff. I'm a I'm a big fan of the

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<v Speaker 2>cast iron or I'll use my cast iron like griddle

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<v Speaker 2>on the grill to make and I make them outside

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<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't splatter everywhere. So I like a nice heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>flat bottom, flat surface, salt and pepper, maybe not inside.

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<v Speaker 2>So see people like I got an uncle. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you put an egg in there, you put some ground beautifully.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, stop, All burgers need a salt and pepper,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little granulated garlic only on the outside, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because you want that beefy flavor, you're gonna season. There's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be enough salt and toppings and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you season the patty well enough, you're gonna it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna to carry through the to the to the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice my artifact, super crust on both sides. Right, Try

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<v Speaker 2>to not prod it, don't poke it, don't smash it.

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<v Speaker 2>Smash it at first. If you like a smashberg, I

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<v Speaker 2>do love that. And when I'm feeling a little frisky,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I take like my my my like my

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<v Speaker 2>my my calck dowl thing, and I will like smash

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<v Speaker 2>it with a super super dramatic shmeard lacy edge right

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<v Speaker 2>and only really cook it on one side, flip it

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<v Speaker 2>over piece of cheese, and you have this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just this beef skirt that forms, and if you do

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<v Speaker 2>it right enough and you bring it up right enough,

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<v Speaker 2>it comes right off and you scrape a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and then you put that on like like a Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 2>roll or a potato bun, some squishy bun with not

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<v Speaker 2>much on it, like I like, I'm I'm like a

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<v Speaker 2>purist a little maybe a pickle Hollopano American cheese beef

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<v Speaker 2>soft sweet bun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, yeah, we we do that. We do we

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<v Speaker 1>We like that onion because I do the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>I used. I used to do the egg and some

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<v Speaker 1>of onion seasoning and all kinds of stuff. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need it. You don't need it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna put that onion on there, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's the flavor that you want, that's what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do that, and I'm doing that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more because my kid said, Dad, can you somehow spice

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<v Speaker 1>up this sauce? You know, he's got a pretty refined palate,

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<v Speaker 1>fri kid, And uh so I'm throwing more onion in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the marinara sauce. Now like I'm I'm grilling

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<v Speaker 1>the onion and you know, kind of liquefying it before

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<v Speaker 1>I even put the meat in, you know, scause I

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<v Speaker 1>do it in a skillet. Yeah, on a red sauce

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<v Speaker 1>for a pross. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this great recipe that I've I've read about from

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times Mars Marcel Hassan. It's a it's the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest but tastiest marnar sauce. And I've never made it

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<v Speaker 2>this way, but it's literally like good tomatoes. Half a

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<v Speaker 2>stick of butter and an onion quartered and you simmer

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<v Speaker 2>it right and then you take out the onions. You

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<v Speaker 2>get all that onion flavor and it's like the silkiest, richest, quickest,

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<v Speaker 2>easiest tomato sauce. Look it up. It's I haven't made

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<v Speaker 2>it again, so I don't know. I mean, someone's listening

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<v Speaker 2>out there and they ate it. But like to me that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's not the world I came from. I

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<v Speaker 2>came I do, my mom my, grandma, my aunt's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Iss.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw te an onion, a little bit of garlic

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of olive oil and dried Italian spices

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<v Speaker 2>till it's like liquefied, right, And you add one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>cans of tomatoes and then you cook it for two days.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you throw like a gallon of basil at the

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<v Speaker 2>end before serving it, and then a tub of ragatta cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was like, that was our that was how

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<v Speaker 2>we ate red sauce. So I was like butter an

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<v Speaker 2>onion that's not even cut, you know, but it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like an easy thing to kind of zip through on

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<v Speaker 2>a weeknight, you know, especially we got littles.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, have you ever watched a

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<v Speaker 1>film or even a TV show that inspired you to

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<v Speaker 1>cook somebody something? Not somebody, but something.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I've been hungry enough looks, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Live movie when they're eating the frozen butt,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, you know, Day thirty seven, You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good looking ash and they take the window,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the glass and no, I've never wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>eat a few and can when I get that out

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<v Speaker 2>there first, I know people have gone down for less.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me think what if I've been watching recently?

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<v Speaker 1>When you watch Goodfellas, do you not get hungry when

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<v Speaker 1>they're in prison and they're like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it makes me ill, dude, you don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so dark and I just there was no ventilation.

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<v Speaker 2>I just rewatched it like three weeks ago, really, And

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<v Speaker 2>I know guys that have literally been in jail and

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<v Speaker 2>have cooked in jail have been like pretty lined up nice,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, where they can have Sunday dinners. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, it's just like so musty in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and and it's dark and there's no ventilation, so you

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<v Speaker 2>smell the garlic, and then Henry's running around, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dropping off drugs everywhere. It was just like, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be relaxed and not not incarcerated. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But godfather, godfather. When they're making the tomato sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when they're making and they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Teaching, they're teaching Mikero, make the tomato sauce because you

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<v Speaker 1>might have to cook for a hundred guys one day.

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<v Speaker 2>That was great. And then Clemenza drops the raw meatballs

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<v Speaker 2>into the sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, the sausage and the pork and the and.

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<v Speaker 2>The work and you got the buck and the veal

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<v Speaker 2>and you put it in a sauce that makes me good.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was like my you know, like I wanna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of what I do. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just watching Landman with Billy Bob Thornton, and she the

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<v Speaker 2>wife made paea for everybody. It was like communal pie,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like, you know, these guys are all

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<v Speaker 2>oil men, you know, they're like, you know, they're Landman,

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<v Speaker 2>they work in oil rigs, and she's trying to impress

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<v Speaker 2>them with baya. It looked very good and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even and that was I was. I think I was

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<v Speaker 2>really hungry and I was watching this because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a big piea guy, you know, but they made this

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<v Speaker 2>look very good on a show you know that you

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<v Speaker 2>know what makes me and I want I got back

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<v Speaker 2>into Yellowstone. This is not food, but this is all

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<v Speaker 2>these shows, right. I don't know who drinks this much

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<v Speaker 2>out of crystal goblets, you know, in rocks glasses, brown liquor,

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<v Speaker 2>all day long, all night long, when they get home

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<v Speaker 2>from work, they're always just like pouring just like thick

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<v Speaker 2>brown bourbon into a one hundred pound glass. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>every time I watch it, I'm like, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get I'm to start that. Well, white kids, these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are running a ranch. What's stopping me from just

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<v Speaker 2>like having, you know, having a decanter right by the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on its own little tray by the TV

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<v Speaker 2>right way, be like, what are you doing? Like just

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<v Speaker 2>pouring a little schnuffer here of thick brown liquor. And

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<v Speaker 2>I never get around to it, but it makes me

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<v Speaker 2>want to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Right they are. They're drinking a lot. She's always drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>She's drunking the costs. Always drink. Kelly Riley's always having

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<v Speaker 1>a trink. Always drinks, I know. And great glasses is great, tumblers.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, just like etched crystal right right. And then they occasion,

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<v Speaker 2>like at least one episode someone's throwing a glass in

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<v Speaker 2>a fireplace or something like they you know, no wonder

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<v Speaker 2>they're losing the ranch. It's just blowing glassware. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's expensive, it's unbelievable. Give us a trick. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a trick that you use for it. Give us one

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<v Speaker 1>clever thing you do.

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<v Speaker 2>The most underutilized thing in the kitchen that everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>the most under like that, I don't know, nobody uses

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<v Speaker 2>it never gets enough. Love is the broiler in your stove,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, the oven broiler to reheat, to put a

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<v Speaker 2>little color on a steak maybe you made outside, to

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<v Speaker 2>crisp up the top of some badgetables to quickly cook

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<v Speaker 2>some roasted vegetables that don't need, you know, an hour

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<v Speaker 2>in the oven. They just want to put a little

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<v Speaker 2>color on. Like to me, it's like so underutilized in

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<v Speaker 2>it mimics what most restaurants do to put color on

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<v Speaker 2>food is use that salamander or that kind of broiler

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<v Speaker 2>they all have. And this is we all have that.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you learn to kind of play with the

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<v Speaker 2>levels of your rack in the oven, you can really

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<v Speaker 2>master it. You know, I love it. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, let's say, okay, here's another trick. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what people do. Don't ever, rarely order an extra large

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<v Speaker 2>pizza at the most large, preferably medium. Never when when

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the phone with them, tell them uncut. Do

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<v Speaker 2>not cut my pizza. I will handle it myself at home.

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<v Speaker 2>It's twofold number one. When you get that pizza. We're

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, it's like a bit of every time we

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<v Speaker 2>order pizza, it's an event. Don't cut my pizza because

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<v Speaker 2>when it transports via delivery to your home. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>those cuts will allow moisture right to penetrate and compromise

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<v Speaker 2>the crust, right, and then you get in it's floppy

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<v Speaker 2>or it's you know, sometimes it's wet, depending on them.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you get vegetables on your pizza, it's miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll preserve the Cristmas of the crust in the

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<v Speaker 2>integrity of the pizza. If you get it on, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get it cut medium being a perfect size. Sometimes large

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<v Speaker 2>they extra large pizzas. They're just like you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>centers are inedible sometimes right, and they cut our PiZZ

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<v Speaker 2>thin crust in the squares here in Chicago. But even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're eating triangles number two, if you get that

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<v Speaker 2>pizza and you don't get around to it, or they're late,

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<v Speaker 2>or you got some you know, your delivery guys not

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<v Speaker 2>not getting there expeditiously, right. I always put my oven

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<v Speaker 2>like either heat up a sheet pan in the oven,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that pizza is coming through the door a little late,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll put it on a hot sheet pan, uncut

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<v Speaker 2>boom the bottom. Or if you have a large nonstick skillet,

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<v Speaker 2>you could do that as well. Throw it in the

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<v Speaker 2>oven for on a hot sheet pan just for a second,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like activates from the bottom and you throw

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<v Speaker 2>it in there for two minutes just to reheat the

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<v Speaker 2>top without cooking it more. And then you got re

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<v Speaker 2>crisp crust.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, come on right, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Even lives here, that's good. It's off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>you think I wrote you didn't. There was no pre

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<v Speaker 2>interview for this.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't appreciate that what you're doing for the world.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? I'm just sitting here in my dusty

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<v Speaker 2>basement trying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Do you have any exciting projects,

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<v Speaker 1>new recipes in the works. What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? You could. You can watch Man Worst Cooks in America, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a fun show. So that's on the kitchens

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<v Speaker 2>go to Marl Provisions dot Com and we'll ship to

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<v Speaker 2>your door in two days. We got plenty of fun

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<v Speaker 2>stuff there. But you know I'm playing that jewel bags

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<v Speaker 2>are playing Roberts West Side here in the neighborhood. King

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<v Speaker 2>of Hearts dance on Valentine's Day, February fourteen. Once of

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<v Speaker 2>the chagrins of the wives of the band members like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing romantically? Oh, you're gonna come watch

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<v Speaker 2>my band play.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what your problem is, you don't have enough fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get more fun out of life. I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Something.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta have a talk with you. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>come back on.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to Scott and anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear more about the jewel bags, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with them, their future, the tour, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I told I told the guys. They all

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<v Speaker 2>believe the to her words. You know, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the only one in the business. If you will, they're

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<v Speaker 2>just dead, you know. I go, Guys, I got some

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<v Speaker 2>great news. Were just nominated for for a Daytime Grammy.

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<v Speaker 2>Today They're like, no way, and then nobody realized, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's the Daytime Emmys, which I've been nominated

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<v Speaker 2>for Daytime Grammy. So I'm like, we're changing our name

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<v Speaker 2>to the Daytime Grammys. Good, We're going places. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get an award from this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. All right. So if I ever come to Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking you up.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do man, We'll go. I will. I will make

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<v Speaker 2>you uncomfortably full.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to party now. I'm really great talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Great meeting man.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh check this dude out. He's uh, he's a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. Jeff, So appreciate the time. Good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>the band, Good luck with the cooking. Good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>the Food Network show Worst Cooks in America, Jeff Morrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Thank you, Scott, and that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it for Jeff Morrow. Check him out on Worst Cooks

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<v Speaker 1>in America. Check out his jewel bag songs. They gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be good. I mean, if they're half as entertaining as

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<v Speaker 1>he was on this podcast, you can have a good

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<v Speaker 1>time anyway. Thanks for downloading. Best fans on the planet,

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