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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual

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Speaker 1: exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co

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Speaker 1: host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy. Make sure y'all

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Speaker 1: get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This

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Speaker 1: is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of

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Speaker 1: the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Selective Ignorance with your girl, Mandy B.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we proudly welcome the ignorance

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Speaker 1: and also welcome you to educate yourself or not, because listen,

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Speaker 1: we all have ignorant moments. In Oh, before I piss

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Speaker 1: y'all off, have you ever thought about what you would

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Speaker 1: actually do if your flight had to make an emergency landing,

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Speaker 1: like really thought about it, because today I am, and

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Speaker 1: we are reacting to a viral American Airlines emergency landing

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Speaker 1: and maybe the passengers that's what they did. They pissed

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Speaker 1: me off, and they had me thinking about fear, entitlement,

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Speaker 1: survival and why common sense is never that common. But also,

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Speaker 1: y'all won't believe the questions I now want to ask

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Speaker 1: every passenger on my flight. We're getting into it. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of ignorance, my good side kick Jaw is bringing

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Speaker 1: it right off the dome and fresh out the gate,

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Speaker 1: nor them up no warning.

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Speaker 2: He has a selectively.

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Speaker 1: Ignorant take as well, well, maybe not so ignorant. Then

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Speaker 1: in this is America, we're getting.

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Speaker 2: Into the golden clothes.

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Speaker 1: And also a message and possibly a dissertation from Joswell

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Speaker 1: around Morris Brown and HBCUs And then I will be

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Speaker 1: giving a little lesson believe it or not, on Jehovah's

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Speaker 1: witnesses practices not gooday, And this of course is sparked

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Speaker 1: by a very popular Internet couples breakup, because the Internet

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Speaker 1: never really just breaks up it like digsy okay. And

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Speaker 1: then a celebrities say the dartist things. Cam Newton invents

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Speaker 1: new vocabulary, and Jim Jones finds himself battling with fifty

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Speaker 1: It's fifty that alone deserves a per circle with lided candles,

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Speaker 1: because how else are we going to see anything?

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Speaker 1: And then we're closing it out with a gift and

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Speaker 1: a thought and some love for my favorite person who

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Speaker 1: came with an announcement this week, j Cole, who announced

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Speaker 1: the fall off.

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Speaker 1: Excited to get into that. Now we're getting into all

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Speaker 1: of these things. So whether you're here to learn left

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Speaker 1: selective ignorance. And why are y'all giggling? I'm not doing it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jeh, real quick.

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Speaker 3: When when she came in the studio, right, I was

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Speaker 3: just watching that. I didn't met I hate it, see.

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Speaker 2: What it is. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: There will be no Cole slander.

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Speaker 4: This is a funny as then a lot of what

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Speaker 4: we do, we have to see everything from all angles, right,

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Speaker 4: all right?

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Speaker 2: Having partiality in journalism.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, well, guys, Unfortunately I am joined by my super

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Speaker 1: we have o G podcast legend, a king on the

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Speaker 1: ones and twos who is beautifully making sure y'all hear

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Speaker 1: this audio. So again, if you're listening to this on audio,

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Speaker 2: If y'all watching almost were mind we are not going

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Speaker 2: to come here. Yeah, I was like, please don't do that.

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Speaker 1: If y'all are listening to this on an audio platform,

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Speaker 1: and making sure y'all are able to hear it.

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Speaker 2: No, this is a backhanded compliment up audio to get

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure y'all know if you can't hear.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we are joined as well by

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Speaker 5: Always that Jersey makes me real Jack heavy on the Jersey.

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Speaker 1: And then my new sidekick, y'all my co host, the

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Speaker 2: We have Jason jah Lee you have no substitutes and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we well, we're gonna make sure, like while we

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Speaker 1: y'all are trying to go watch some football today. So

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna hold y'all here too long. And I

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Speaker 1: know your ignorant take is about someone football, even though guys,

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Speaker 3: I'm not snitching because you put it up there. You

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Speaker 2: I'd be at sports. I play games. I'd be at games.

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Speaker 1: I went to the Hawks Celtics game, and first off,

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Speaker 1: If I was watching the Celtics play, I need green

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Speaker 1: somewhere on their They put the bull them niggas looked

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Speaker 1: And then you had the goddamn Hawks in a peach

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Speaker 1: and I was like, he just got fucking traded there

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Speaker 1: all the crackers on the court, Like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is why COVID started,

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Speaker 1: one man want to.

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Speaker 1: But no. I realized I need to watch more sports

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Speaker 2: A hundred points for you. You knew the trade, and

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Speaker 1: Like, I know what's going on in the news like

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Speaker 1: I'm not betting because I know them. Nigga's like flapping

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean. So I know the

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, anyways, let's get into some ignorance, all right.

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Speaker 1: So I have an ignorant take, an ignorant take, I

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Speaker 1: this is how we starting to, y'all, and we're leaning

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Speaker 1: But one in particular, y'all, a video came across my

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Speaker 1: course we all know that when an airplane or when

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Speaker 1: if you could find that on the internet, I would

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Speaker 1: where my ignorant thought came, right, And so journalism, Jason,

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Speaker 1: like you to see if there is anything that a

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Speaker 1: passenger can file to be reimbursed with the things they

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Speaker 1: do leave on the flight.

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Speaker 2: Because hear me out. So I'm in my.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts, right, and I'm like, hold on, now you see

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Speaker 1: what Trump is doing. I need to make sure I

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Speaker 1: at least have what's on me. So I need my passport,

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Speaker 1: I need my cell phone, I need that, Like, let

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Speaker 1: me get all my cards, my ID that gotta go

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Speaker 1: with me. But I'm thinking of the duffel bag that

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Speaker 1: I put in the overhead.

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Speaker 2: It's a Louis Duffel.

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Speaker 1: First off, Then I have my MacBook Pro. I normally

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Speaker 1: carry my shore mic. So I'm like, what real if

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Speaker 1: I leave? You know, so if I leave everything in

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Speaker 1: the bed. But is Delta is the airline going to

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Speaker 1: reimburse me for my loss?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Jason doesn't say that you get reimbursed.

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Speaker 6: you don't generally do not reimburse Wow damage carry on

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Speaker 2: Has anyone never been down a slide?

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Speaker 1: Do you know how to slide? How to slide? Because

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Speaker 4: Eat the concrete, goes her first day down to emergency

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Speaker 2: This is it's not a water park.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what a while it's still out,

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Speaker 4: But wateran cruise. It's been a boat. This ain't nothing

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Speaker 1: You're literally about the time.

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Speaker 3: But there's a human element, rightmon. It's not like, okay,

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Speaker 3: we're doing anything in order. The only thing you're doing

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely thinking about those values, thinking about valuable and

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Speaker 4: the air, thirty thousand feet in air, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my solution is the personal bags the person.

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Speaker 4: They're like, they're like half the size of a carry on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones that go onto the sea, take that.

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Speaker 4: Put all your your lap all your valuable ship. Take that,

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Speaker 4: because at very least you could just grab it and

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Speaker 1: Right, you're making this board now.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't.

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Speaker 1: Want to think about that power responsible.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, my Louis duffelout. My whole thing about

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Speaker 4: The plane, the plane is making emergency landing, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: the plane is making an emergency landing from thirty.

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Speaker 2: Thousand feet wherever.

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Speaker 4: However, high y'all are listen if we're going, if the

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Speaker 1: You're right, we got time, I got time, We got

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Speaker 4: You right, it could be, but I'll be the first

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Speaker 2: Y'all gotta have to beat me to it, because.

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Speaker 2: And so where you eight of us, they get y'all

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Speaker 4: Who should have just took frontier instead of even getting

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Speaker 4: you got time. Like there's only one slide, so you

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Speaker 4: it don't take all day, That's what I was thinking, Like, no,

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Speaker 2: Y'all be mad if y'all want.

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Speaker 6: To well, adults on the slide. It's crazy though, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you.

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Speaker 1: We gotta y'all got to see this one, and who

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Speaker 1: just it pissed me off so bad. I like wanted

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Speaker 2: That's how like I was like this.

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Speaker 6: I think it's faster. I think I can hold on

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Speaker 2: Because then she rolled. Then she rolled on the concrete.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. Now another thing that came across my

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Speaker 1: also I wanted Jason, can you please.

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Speaker 2: Pull up the clip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a recent news cast that discussed not

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Speaker 1: ahead and play the clip. This is Brooke Rawlins, Secretary

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 7: I think the question you're asking, and it's a really

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Speaker 7: is no. We've run over a thousand simulations. It can

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Speaker 1: You've done.

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Speaker 8: One of we have. One of the criticisms I heard

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Speaker 8: So are you asking people to spend more money with

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Speaker 7: The answer to that is absolutely no. Now there are

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Speaker 1: I I can I just say one thing that really

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Speaker 1: said a piece of white bread. But the tortilla, bruh.

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Speaker 1: That is the Messicans. The Mexicans be eating the tortillas.

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Speaker 1: So I was, like, y'all have said here it told

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Speaker 4: Hard?

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Speaker 1: It gets so hard, it gets harder and harder. We

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Speaker 1: Mind you, we also have rent that no one is a.

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Speaker 2: Dressing right, no one is addressing car notes? Oh yeah, right, now,

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Speaker 3: They're seeing that people defaulting on their loans.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's fucked up out here. For her for

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Speaker 4: eat one piece of everything like on.

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Speaker 1: But not only that, she said, yeah steak, y'all can't

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Speaker 1: It ain't good for you anyway, take thirty days to die.

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Speaker 3: Chickens another thing, and then you cut snap benefits, right,

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Speaker 3: you're playing around with that. So what do those people

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Speaker 1: I don't know, game. I saw this, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: Not minake, just you know, when they paid away and

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Speaker 2: With the camera?

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Speaker 4: Yo, get thee I just made up to te you

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty God damn ridiculous. Joah, I would love to

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Speaker 4: So so the side, I'm trying to figure out how

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: So this week there was I guess, a controversy over

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Speaker 2: In that kind of thing. Do we want to play

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Speaker 6: And for the context. He's a first year coach.

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Speaker 2: To he is a first year coach. He just got

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Speaker 1: He about to go to Orlando. Look at me, look

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Speaker 4: You hold your head up, all right, You guys have

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Speaker 6: He did a great job out So you just hold

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Speaker 1: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, duvall you don't want all right,

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Speaker 1: keep it going.

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Speaker 6: We got another season.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Take care of much continued success to you and thank you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: As I watched that in real time, I'll be honest

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Speaker 4: nice to this man. Yeah, it's trying to be nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: real auntie vibes, real warm, grandmothery energy. Yeah yeah, a

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Speaker 4: little little yeah, a little pocket, pocketbook full.

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Speaker 1: Now she sounds like big mama' that's crazy because she's not.

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Speaker 4: pressidor because it did sound a little crazy to me.

444
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Speaker 4: It was a little too Like I get hometowns. I

445
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 4: listen to the local hometown sports here, sports talk radio,

446
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: and like, of course the hometown is going to be

447
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 4: generous to the hometown team, but you do have to

448
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 4: ask tough questions.

449
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Speaker 2: To your coaches, your players, whatever the case is. My

450
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Speaker 2: problem is really less with what she said.

451
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Speaker 4: My problem is the reaction to what she said, because

452
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 4: people acted like people who pointed out the fact that

453
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Speaker 4: this is to some degree a little unprofessional, that she

454
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Speaker 4: just one who works for the Jacksonville Free Press. I

455
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 4: understand that their journalistic angle is to be like over

456
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Speaker 4: the minute, it's a community community, it's a community of people,

457
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Speaker 4: and so they are basically not a fan club. I

458
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Speaker 4: don't want to reduce them to that, but they are

459
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Speaker 4: very kind and generous to the home team. They want

460
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Speaker 4: to feel like, they want to say good things about

461
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Speaker 4: the home team. They're not there to slander the home team.

462
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Speaker 4: But when I look at the reaction to this, I

463
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Speaker 4: see Matt bum Arns going off on the reporters who

464
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Speaker 4: kind of pushed back against how effusive she was with

465
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Speaker 4: her praise.

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Speaker 2: And one of those people was Jamel Hill.

467
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Speaker 4: In all honesty, like Jamel is my homie, So like

468
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Speaker 4: I did feel the type of way that people were

469
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Speaker 4: talking like this about several reporters, but about her specifically,

470
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Speaker 4: because she's a real journalist. She doesn't need me to

471
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Speaker 4: defend her. But I just saw the type of way

472
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Speaker 4: about how people were talking about this thing.

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Speaker 2: How was Jamelle what was her response.

474
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Speaker 4: To Jamelle was kind of on the side of like, yeah,

475
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Speaker 4: like that's kind of weird. Essentially, that like why would

476
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Speaker 4: a reporter is kind of I think the tweet was

477
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Speaker 4: she responded to with someone calling that interview interaction awesome,

478
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Speaker 4: and she was like, I don't know if awesome is

479
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Speaker 4: the way the word I would use to describe it.

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Speaker 1: We describe things something differently. I'll say, as someone who

481
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Speaker 1: was credential media in the locker room, it's crazy. My

482
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: very first time I was credential media with the Orlando

483
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Speaker 1: Magic back in the two thousand and ten season, and

484
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Speaker 1: I remember coach Tibbs going in there played the Bulls

485
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Speaker 1: and Doc Rivers I believe was the coach at the time,

486
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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, And to me, it was always

487
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Speaker 1: very interesting at the amount of ways that people ask the.

488
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Speaker 2: Same questions, just question different.

489
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Speaker 1: But also if we think about the presser, right, I

490
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: couldn't fathom after losing or get my ass whooped, or

491
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, having to go and sit in this room

492
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Speaker 1: where people pretty much like it's not only and the

493
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Speaker 1: idea that they have eighty one games a season and

494
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Speaker 1: this is something that at least you know what I

495
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Speaker 1: mean the mental toll on it. I don't understand why

496
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Speaker 1: we can't welcome positive and negative interactions within a presser

497
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Speaker 1: when we do have platforms that push positivity. There's an

498
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Speaker 1: audience for that, and then you have the hard pressing

499
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Speaker 1: questions that people want to ask. But also are we

500
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Speaker 1: getting those answers?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah most of the time. Yeah, if they're.

502
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Speaker 1: Media trained, or or you might get lucky and get

503
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Speaker 1: a motherfucker on the mic like Marshaun Lynch.

504
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, but or a coach that's so fed up that

505
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Speaker 4: they can't hold themselves back from saying the truth because

506
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Speaker 4: they're that angry.

507
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Who's who's been true tellers, impressors.

508
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Speaker 6: Coaches, get all the coaches you don't like, it's gonna

509
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 6: be like them.

510
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Speaker 2: Sometimes get on there. He'll just make it plain.

511
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Speaker 1: Tom who said peace. Yeah, that's nineteen years. By the way,

512
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Speaker 1: I used to be a huge Stealers fan, So I'm.

513
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Speaker 2: Sad to see him go.

514
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Speaker 6: It was podcast.

515
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Speaker 1: It was funny. They just posted a picture of him,

516
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Speaker 1: I guess one of his daughters, his daughters, and someone

517
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Speaker 1: in the comments was like, this looked like the first

518
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Speaker 1: time coach Holland And had at least eight hours of

519
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Speaker 1: sleep in the last.

520
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, because yeah, that man be looking tired.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he also looks like if there were to

522
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: ever be a loving basketball part to he would have

523
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: to play grown up? Have y'all never seen it? It's

524
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Speaker 1: grown up?

525
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Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it till you said it.

526
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Speaker 4: That's why I was like, wait, what they do have

527
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: a certain still got to play? Not yeah yeah, but Mike,

528
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that, but yeah.

529
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Speaker 1: To me, when I saw it, I was like, I

530
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: didn't understand the outrage while everyone was so mad, Like

531
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with having some bit

532
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: of positivity in these rooms that end up being fucking

533
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: hard for everybody.

534
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Speaker 4: But here's the thing about it, though, if you're a journalist,

535
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Speaker 4: it's not really your job. You can do whatever you

536
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 4: want to do, I guess, but it's not really your

537
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: job to be positive. Like it does have to be

538
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 4: negative and like mean spirited either, but like it's your

539
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: job to ask questions and to not Like in any

540
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 4: other circumstance where let's say Josh Allen lost last night,

541
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Speaker 4: lost a tough game, and Josh Allen has pressure on

542
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Speaker 4: him because he's been getting asked by Patrick Mahomes and

543
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson for years now. Now both of them are

544
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, you still can't win the game. If

545
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 4: somebody had gone in that press conference last night and

546
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Speaker 4: start talking about Josh Allen, you're a great quarterback and

547
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: you've done so much for the city of Buffalo, wouldn't

548
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: nobody be like, oh, that's so sweet.

549
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: They would be like, why is this reporter on Josh

550
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Allen's day?

551
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Speaker 6: But but hold on, but many let me feel you

552
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Speaker 6: in before, Yeah, because they know you're about to go

553
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: with half of the information. So again the coach, the coach.

554
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Speaker 5: That's saying Jason, he's the first year Jason from now.

555
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 6: Because I know you're about to let it like you're

556
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 6: about to fire off on it. But no, no, no,

557
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 6: he's a first year coach.

558
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want they want thirteen and four.

559
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 6: Last year they want four and thirteen.

560
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: Yes, they turned the whole season around.

561
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Speaker 6: She's not a traditional sports reporter. She works for this

562
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Speaker 6: a community newspaper. It's a black newspaper. And you know

563
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Speaker 6: when she responded after all this, like first she said, like,

564
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Speaker 6: you know, when the team does good, the community does good.

565
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Speaker 6: So like that's her position on it, and so and

566
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 6: obviously she's he's a nice young man.

567
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Speaker 2: He's probably younger than all of us.

568
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Speaker 6: The coach.

569
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean.

570
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Speaker 6: So that's kind of like the fuller context.

571
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Speaker 1: So something that you have all kind of pointed out,

572
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Speaker 1: which I think is the elephant in the room, is

573
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Speaker 1: also that I think seeing the backlash and the outrage,

574
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Speaker 1: you leaning into the anti vibes of her, you saying

575
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Speaker 1: if another reporter said this, they'd be like, get off

576
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Speaker 1: your I also think the issue here is that.

577
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Speaker 2: It was a woman that did it. It was a

578
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Speaker 2: black woman that did it, Like I think.

579
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Speaker 6: Reporters were annoyed, like as if she took up a

580
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Speaker 6: lot of time that was literally like twenty seconds. Yeah, yeah,

581
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Speaker 6: I think they were said kind of asked the question

582
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Speaker 6: at that time and that time.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

584
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Speaker 4: No, some of the so to be clear, like some

585
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: of what the white reporters and even like Pat McAfee

586
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Speaker 4: who responded to this whole thing, like some of what

587
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Speaker 4: they were some of what they were doing was like

588
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: oh I'm not but like other reporters who were mad

589
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: at it was to your point, yeah, we could have

590
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: asked something else or this could have been a real question, whatever.

591
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: Whatever.

592
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Again, my beef really isn't with what she said, but

593
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: people acting disingenuous to the idea that if a journalist

594
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: goes in there and that's what journalists do. The truth

595
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: of the matter is is that if you work for

596
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: a major publication, you might lose your job for that,

597
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: or you might be you might get a reprimand for

598
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: that for being a little too fan oriented with how

599
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: you're presenting that.

600
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Speaker 1: I came across the interview this week and I was like,

601
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Speaker 1: that's journalism. There was a woman, Oh my god, I

602
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: can't remember the outlet, but basically she was interviewing Ben

603
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: Affleck and Matt.

604
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Damon on their new movie that's coming out, The Rip

605
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: and the on Netflix.

606
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: And she sits in front of them and literally her

607
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: question is your name was brought up on Real Housewives,

608
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Assault Lake City? Do you know Li Sabarlow and and

609
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: reference just Real Housewives and got an answer that as

610
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: who else is going to ask Ben Affleck? So from

611
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: a fan perspective of maybe Housewives? She brought this question

612
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: to journalism and all I saw was, now this is

613
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: a journalism, I said, I love, this is journalism. We

614
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: have to understand in terms of journalism Jason and Jason.

615
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: That the people that consume.

616
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Again, you're gonna have the people that want the same

617
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: way we have left wing right wing, the same way

618
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: we have people that want to listen to positivity and

619
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: people that want to listen to mess Like m We

620
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: have to understand as a journalist, everything that you ask

621
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Speaker 1: don't mean everybody want to listen to it anymore. So

622
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Speaker 1: there are people maybe old aunties or other women that

623
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Speaker 1: watch basketball that have a heart like to see that

624
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: type of interaction happening in a presser.

625
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: That's cool.

626
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: But I mean Jigga said, women go kitchen kitchen, Now

627
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Speaker 1: that's what That's what I'm getting. I honestly don't think

628
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: it was a woman. There was compassion, and there's no

629
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: room for that on the field.

630
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Speaker 2: But it's like, but ask a question.

631
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Speaker 4: Again, I don't want to make it about her because

632
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm not really chipping off of her, But she didn't

633
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: ask a question. She heaped praise on a person and

634
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: there was no that's at least the ben Affleck thing.

635
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: At least she asked a question, and someone can see like, Okay,

636
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: that's cute. If you don't ask a question. This is

637
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: just for me to give you a verbal massage like, Okay,

638
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: that's gonna be a little weird. And that was my

639
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: initial take on it. But I'm just surprised that people

640
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: think that. I know that media is all mangled now,

641
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: so people think that journalism and blogs, pods and everything

642
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: is the same thing, and it's not really the same thing.

643
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: So when they get on there and they start snapping about, oh, well,

644
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: there's so much negativity and why can't we just have one, Well,

645
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: this isn't the If you want to get positivity, go

646
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: listen to the fan podcast of the Jacksonville Jaguar or

647
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: whatever the case is. But I was just shocked that

648
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: so many journalists and other people were just completely not

649
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: willing to acknowledge the fact that that's not how you

650
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: can carry on. If somebody went in the White House

651
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: press briefing and do we say that?

652
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: But that's my point though, that's what they do.

653
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: And the first thing that a left wing outlet will

654
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: say is look at them over there sucking Trump's kneecaps.

655
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: Look at them, look at look a.

656
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: Look at them, look at them up there, look at

657
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: the bottom of his taint, at these pressers and not

658
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: asking real questions and so like, I don't understand why

659
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: all of us and I understand protect the black woman.

660
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: Don't like people were talking crazy about this lady Lynn Jones,

661
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: and like she doesn't deserve to be talk crazy about

662
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: and she didn't do anything.

663
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Speaker 2: That sounds the.

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Speaker 1: Bottom fell off.

665
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Speaker 2: Microphone, microphone at got sensitive.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I was just kind of annoyed by the

667
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Speaker 4: fact that people didn't want to acknowledge that that's not

668
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Speaker 4: how that's not how you can carry on your job

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Speaker 4: every day as a journalist. And there's plenty of examples

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Speaker 4: of people reacting the exact opposite to that same line

671
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Speaker 4: of questioning or like, there up, that's.

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Speaker 2: All I got for y'all. All right, well I like it,

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Let's get into this is America really

675
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: excited to get into this part of the show. We

676
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: are now about a week out from Golden Globes, so

677
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: we were able to see all of the outrage that

678
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: played out over the last week for the winners, the losers,

679
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: the emotion and the host Nikki Glazer, who I thought

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00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: did an amazing incredible job leaning into politics, making the

681
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: room uncomfortable while also making the room.

682
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: Laugh her jokes called out.

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Speaker 1: I really liked the joke about Leonardo because I too agree,

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Speaker 1: would love to have been able to, you know, been

685
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Speaker 1: considered for Leo. I'm too old now, I'm five years

686
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: past five. But yeah, shout out to Nicki Glazer, shout

687
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: out to the winners. And I wanted to know specifically

688
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Speaker 1: y'all's thoughts on the Golden Globes before we break this

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Speaker 1: down just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Tianna Taylor's the Star, agreed, Taylor Superstar that that's that's

691
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Speaker 4: my front line takes on the Golden Globes, Sanna Taylor, Superstar.

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Speaker 1: Now, what I saw and what I like to dissect

693
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: again is the outrage that comes from certain moments, right,

694
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people.

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00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Celebrating, yes, but on the other side questioning this win

697
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: for Tianna Taylor because of the length of time she

698
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: spent in the movie. And they also went as far

699
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: as to compare this to Halle Berry's winning Monster Ball

700
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: the nature of the role and because it highlights over

701
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: a negative well not only the sexualization of it, but

702
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: and a negative stereotype once again on black women. Mind you,

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00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I think that she beat out Ariana Grande Wicked in

704
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: the same category. So there was a lot of people

705
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: that were like, out of a, Arianna, don't win this.

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Speaker 2: But the here's that what.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was it was just listen.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting to me to see the outrage, specifically

710
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: from our own community, because of course you had the

711
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: intellects I like to call them that deep dove into this,

712
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: while also at the same time being upset at the

713
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: actual awards that Centers did win. So they complained about

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00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: them not winning screenplay, right, but then we're like, oh

715
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: my god, they won an award that wasn't televised. Oh

716
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: my god, they won award for best score. They won

717
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: this award but they didn't win. And I was just like,

718
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: holy shit, this room is like eighty five percent quite,

719
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, in a year where I think that we

720
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: excelled as black creatives in this space particularly and seeing

721
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: what everyone I was like, damn, are.

722
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Speaker 2: We ever happy? Because it wasn't.

723
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Speaker 1: Variety who was going saying like, oh my god, say

724
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: about on their bullshit anyway, it was us where I'm

725
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: just like, goddamn. And then when the BET Awards comes

726
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: around in July, y'all are like, oh, this is the

727
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: only place we see it, but BT Awards don't mean anything,

728
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: like why are we not being And I'm like, we

729
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: got seen in these rooms and y'all are still not

730
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: fucking happy and it's just c but the mental olympics

731
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: of them jumping hoops as to what makes them unhappy

732
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: in this moment, in a moment that we could and

733
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Speaker 1: should be celebrated, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean my thing with it is that, like I understand.

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Speaker 4: So I watched one Battle after I didn't see it

736
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Speaker 4: till I didn't see it in theater. I saw it

737
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: maybe a month ago, maybe three years ago, and I

738
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: didn't leave. I tried to stay away from some of

739
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: the criticisms so I wouldn't contain it. I saw that

740
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 4: people felt like this is racist and all that kind

741
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 4: of stuff. So that was already kind of on me.

742
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna watch it, try to be fair about it.

743
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 4: And yeah, I understood in those first twenty thirty minutes

744
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Speaker 4: whatever it is, why that could be seen as problematic.

745
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 4: But ultimately, to me, the movie wasn't just that good

746
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 4: the way people are super excited about this film.

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Speaker 2: For me, I just left like Okay, it was cool,

748
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: but I.

749
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Speaker 4: Didn't feel blown away or feel any deep connection to

750
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Speaker 4: it in the same way I felt with Sinners. At

751
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: the same time, Sinners isn't gonna win all these awards.

752
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: We just know that.

753
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Speaker 1: And they did win, by the way. They won Best

754
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Speaker 1: Score and they also won the category for Cinematic and

755
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Speaker 1: Box Office.

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Speaker 4: Achieve Now, I will say with that one, to me,

757
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 4: that one is a little stuss because that's a brand

758
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: new category.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a strange, strange that one's solely just based

761
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Speaker 6: on numbers. Then, so here's the definition. So it recognizes

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Speaker 6: the year's most acclaimed, highest earning, and or most viewed

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Speaker 6: films that have garnered extensive global audience support and attained

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Speaker 6: cinematic excellence. Okay, so to be eligible, you have to

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Speaker 6: have gross one hundred and fifty million, with at least

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Speaker 6: one hundred million of that in the US. There's only

767
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Speaker 6: been there's only been three winners of that film. And

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Speaker 6: so it's like Ryan Coogler's movie, I think, and I

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Speaker 6: think it the first one probably it's a verly.

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Speaker 4: And my issue with that, even with their definition of it,

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Speaker 4: is like, so if it's all of those things and

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Speaker 4: it wins that What what are you saying that it

773
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Speaker 4: isn't the best picture or the like?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

775
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: What would be the because to me, all the best

776
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Speaker 4: pictures would check all those boxes that he just read off.

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Speaker 6: It feels like an assurance type of things, like awards

778
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 6: movies are like the like, like that the high.

779
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: Art a certain kind of film gets.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, oh, we can award the popular movies

781
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Speaker 6: and still remain like avant garde with our taste.

782
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: If the MCU puts out some Avengers flick that everyone loves,

783
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Speaker 4: it makes ten trillion dollars that we can't really deny

784
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Speaker 4: with all the star power, we don't give it any award,

785
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 4: then this is our chance that we can give y'all

786
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Speaker 4: this and make it like we're not biased, or that

787
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Speaker 4: we don't we're being fair to everyone, whatever that means.

788
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Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, but the movie wasn't that great.

789
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Speaker 4: But I'm happy that Tianna Taylor won this award because

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00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: she did a really good job. Whether you people feel

791
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: the type of way about her character or not, I

792
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: guess is up for them to figure out within themselves.

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Speaker 4: But I think she did an amazing job with what

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Speaker 4: she was asked to do. My question always is when

795
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Speaker 4: people have these critiques of black characters and ultimately it's

796
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Speaker 4: hard to separate this black character from this black actress,

797
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: what are you saying about the actress?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: What is it when you have these hardcore critiques about

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Speaker 4: Perfidia Beverly Hills and what she represented.

801
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Speaker 2: And being over sexualized.

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: Are you saying that if it's this, if that character

803
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: is this destructive? Are you saying that Tianna Taylor ate

804
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 4: it and embedded the destruction of the black community by

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Speaker 4: playing his character?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: What is the I never know how to separated that.

808
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 4: No one ever really explains that. They don't talk about

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00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: that part of it. They just they leve you the

810
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: critique on the art. And I'm like, well, if you're

811
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Speaker 4: saying that, then was she wrong to take this role?

812
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: Should she have not done it and stood on some

813
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: principle and boycotted? Would that have made people happy that

814
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: Paul Thomas Anderson wanted her to play this role of

815
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: like black sex hole and she turned it down because

816
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: she has this principle, right, I don't I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand the solution either.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the solution. Yeah, well, congratulations, congratulations Taylor,

819
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Speaker 1: And it should have just been congratulations, and y'all niggas

820
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: should have stopped with your Twitter fingers. Just be happy

821
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Speaker 1: for the goddamn woman. Now, in terms of being happy

822
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Speaker 1: for women, I want to lean into my hypocrisy just

823
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Speaker 1: a little bit.

824
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Speaker 2: Here we go.

825
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: So it's not right for us not to talk about

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Speaker 1: the podcast winner. Yeah and so got on the phone. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Amy Poehler is a good hang was

828
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Speaker 1: the winner of this category. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: the other nominees that were also in this category. So

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Speaker 1: you had the armchair expert call her daddy good hang SmartLess.

831
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Speaker 1: All of these were white, the Mel Robbins podcast and

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Speaker 1: up first from NPR.

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Speaker 2: White white white.

834
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Speaker 1: Now, yes, all of these are white. I want to

835
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Speaker 1: lean into also saying where in my mind immediately this

836
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Speaker 1: is the first year that the Golden Globes is even

837
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: acknowledging podcasts. I'm I first thought would have been Joe Rogan. However, right,

838
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: Joe to me would have been he's been number one

839
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: for the last fucks.

840
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: On the charts. But hear me out, I have a word.

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Speaker 1: A few thoughts. My first thought was okay. I definitely

842
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: thought Joe Rogan should have won this. However, if you

843
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: guys are not familiar with how awards shows often work,

844
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: me and a King, we'll be talking about it in

845
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Speaker 1: the group chat. You oftentimes have to pay to be nominated.

846
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: You have to submit your By the way, your payment

847
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: does not guarantee a nominee either. So like for the

848
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Speaker 1: Webby Awards, Webby Awards I believe is two fifty or

849
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars per submission so per category, right, and

850
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: then Signal Awards is a little cheaper. Signal Awards is

851
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: like one fifty one seventy five. And there's more different

852
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: podcast Wars Awards coming out. I know, even iHeart you

853
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: have to submit like which category? I don't think you

854
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: have to pay, No, you just have to be an

855
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: iHeart podcast.

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00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: Right, But I think, how do you go about vetting?

857
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: And part of me if I'm not accurate in this.

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Speaker 3: They send it out.

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00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: To they do partners, and they have and they had

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Speaker 1: it's a voting committee.

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00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Ye, there's an order too.

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00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: And so maybe possibly possibly Joe Rogan did some in itself. Now,

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00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: want to get into one more take on what the

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Speaker 1: criteria was for this before I lean into my shit.

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Speaker 1: So for the Golden Globes, a podcast didn't need to

866
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Speaker 1: be original content at least six episodes released between January

867
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: first and September thirtieth and twenty twenty five, each being

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00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: thirty plus minutes covering genres like narrative, news, and pop culture,

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00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: and it had to be identified as the top twenty

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Speaker 1: five based on reach, finance, and visibility, from which the

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Speaker 1: final nominees were selected, with judges of course considering quality, creativity, engagement,

872
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: and impact leading to these six finalists. Now, immediately I

873
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: got happy that a woman wanted because women are highly

874
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: underrepresented in across podcasts in general. I know we talk

875
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: about the call her Daddies, which I actually think, based

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00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: on these aminies, should have been the winner. But they're

877
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: not gonna let a whole win, never, not on the

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Speaker 1: first one.

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00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: And that's her.

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00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: That's where her contents you know, started starting. And so

881
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: I actually would have liked Mel Robbins personally on this

882
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: to win, based on also her show kind of aiding

883
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: and embedding her becoming a New York Times bestseller that

884
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: has not left the list since her book Let Them dropped.

885
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: And so yeah, those are my thoughts, and nobody in

886
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: their community is complaining.

887
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: The white community of podcasts.

888
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: The white podcast now here is my only critique on

889
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Amy Poehler winning this. Now, yes, she has great guests,

890
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: that she's a celebrity, right when I looked at her feed,

891
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: this is a podcast that only has forty five episodes.

892
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I was going to ask about even with

893
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: the qualifications, when it's six six, you can win, and

894
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: you can win a going Globe unless it's a podcast

895
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: like serial or true crime or something where scripted and

896
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: it's different.

897
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: I can see that, lady.

898
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: I was shocked, but that no true crime you made this?

899
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: Because true crime, believe it or not, y'all is I

900
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: think like the number.

901
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: One category by podcast.

902
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: So the fact that there is no scripted true crime

903
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: show that made this also like led me to be like, who's.

904
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: Who's really who's in this committee and commit the committ.

905
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 6: It's the foreign Hollywood correspondence the.

906
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 2: Globe.

907
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 6: So historically that's the structure behind the Golden globes and

908
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 6: it's not even a lot of people used to be

909
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 6: like one hundred or less.

910
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: And so then after after and then after.

911
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 6: Controversy a few years ago they expanded it, and so

912
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 6: now there's some domestic reporter.

913
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: There's some domestic.

914
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 6: It's still not a very large pool. Like this is

915
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 6: not like the Oscar committeehe it's like really large. It's

916
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 6: still a you know, relatively small groups. So it used

917
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 6: to be one hundred less than one hundred, less than

918
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 6: a hundred Okay, yeah, remember remember.

919
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: The Golden Globes.

920
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 6: Yes, and then and then remember the Golden Globes was

921
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 6: knocked off of TV a few years ago because it

922
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 6: was racist. Yeah, and so they you know, they reconfigured

923
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 6: and now there's it's a larger voting pool, but it's

924
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 6: still largely entertainment reporters, some foreign, some domestic, not as

925
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 6: big as like the Oscar Voting Committee.

926
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: Look at the criteria identified in the top twenty five

927
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: based on reach finance.

928
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 6: Yeah that automatically it's like revenue there are Yeah, I.

929
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, you have forty because because.

930
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 6: It's it's it's entertainment reporters and it's like how they

931
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 6: look at movies and box office.

932
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Okay, valid element.

933
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 4: But it's also there's some steroids in that because like

934
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: maybe y'all can speak to this better as far as

935
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: like with the podcast and landscape. We talk about finance, like,

936
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: of course Amy Poehler is going to come out the

937
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: gate as a celebrity with a high profile and have

938
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: a high quality produced podcast and be able to get

939
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: all of these amazing right, So advertisers and advertising, Yeah,

940
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: and the whole thing. So I guess my question would

941
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: be like, could there, based off this criteria and kind

942
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: of how white this thing is, could there be a

943
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: sinner's podcast that even cracks this list at any time?

944
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 6: Like?

945
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: How are they going to justify I don't think I

946
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: can think of Before you get to the committee. There's advocacy,

947
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: and I think the people who are advocating for her

948
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: and the other the nominees, I think that's where the

949
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: buck kind of stops there.

950
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: Because I wanted to invisit those unseen hands.

951
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: I want to ask, I want to ask the group

952
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: of us. Then if there were to be a black

953
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: podcast in this category, which one do you think would

954
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: represent black podcasts the most? That would kind of usher

955
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: us into continuous.

956
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Being nominated outside of black? What's the criteria? No, I

957
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: mean the same thing, the same.

958
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: Thing, which which which black podcast do you think would

959
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: have been justified being nominated Drink Champs.

960
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: I know y'all are gonna say no, but drink.

961
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: Chan we're talking black. They have reached. They have reached,

962
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: they have revenue.

963
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: They're gatekeeping to. There's a gatekeeping element in this too.

964
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: They're not going to have.

965
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: By the way, love Drink Champs they focus on.

966
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: I think I don't think that they would acknowledge a

967
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: reconnized good.

968
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 6: Doesn't focus on audio, though the good has good hang

969
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 6: is it's it's a YouTube focused.

970
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: It's not great.

971
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 6: I don't know great is. I guess I don't know

972
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 6: what your definition of grade is. But they're very much

973
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 6: it's a it's a Spotify video video podcast focuses.

974
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: On so you but you say drink Champs. What if

975
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: you say they wouldn't want niggas like that in the room?

976
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: Hip hop? Hip hop centric? You know it is.

977
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: I think again it goes back to advocacy. They have

978
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: to have people there advocating for But if you have

979
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: but if you.

980
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: Have Amyler who sits with nothing but celebrities, Yeah, Nori

981
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: does sit with celebrities.

982
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

983
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: The two that I would say to me, that represents

984
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: like the Golden globes. Whatever the that's supposed to mean

985
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: as far as like status and then not wanting.

986
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: Certain niggas in there.

987
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: One the first one I would probably say is in

988
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: my opinion with Michelle Obama and her brother.

989
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: Okay, but how many and they got how many episodes? Yeah?

990
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, but.

991
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Does she even have six episodes?

992
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: I would think so episodes.

993
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has six episodes in the last eight years.

994
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: Huh two years?

995
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, brother, Yeah, I think it's two years old. Maybe

996
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: it's just last year, but I thought they had been

997
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 4: doing it for two years. I feel like they should

998
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: have let you know.

999
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 6: This is in my opinion with Michelle Obama and Craig

1000
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 6: and Craig Robinson, right.

1001
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Okay, not gonna lie it's say forty seven.

1002
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say they should have it within the

1003
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: range of that. I would say that one first and

1004
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: foremost is probably the highest profile profile wise.

1005
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: One that I would say.

1006
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 4: The one that I would say that I think maybe

1007
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 4: it's not necessarily hip hop.

1008
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: Centric, but it also might seventy four.

1009
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: It also might crack with a Golden Globe type of

1010
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: thing would be Higher Learning, because they talked.

1011
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: To I'm not going to lie Higher Learning was going

1012
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: to be mine. Yeah, And it's on the Bill Simmons.

1013
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. It's on the Ringer.

1014
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: They talked to a lot of politicians, high profile politicians,

1015
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 4: and Vanner and Lindsay and Rachel do a really good

1016
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: job at kind of providing information and breaking it down

1017
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 4: and still and they dropped twice a week. So it's like,

1018
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: to me, that is a type of podcast without a

1019
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: celebrity element like Michelle Obama that I would say should

1020
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: be per viable for some of the stuff they talk

1021
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: about in this christ And I was going to.

1022
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: Go that way too.

1023
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: I was going to say either higher learning or pot

1024
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: save the people.

1025
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: I mean, based on the criteria, the numbers and just

1026
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: pop culture relevance, the Read Okay Award, they've they've established

1027
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: themselves as award winners.

1028
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: And they've been out thirteen years now. Yeah, and their

1029
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: numbers are crazy.

1030
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: Crazy, you never off reed. They do six digits a week.

1031
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy decade plus it's with no video, with nobody,

1032
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: no video, with no barely any guests.

1033
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember they went.

1034
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: The last guest that I've I heard on the Read

1035
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: was Tina Knowles.

1036
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, and then before that, I think

1037
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: it was a far Burton, and.

1038
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Then before that it was like Devels when they was

1039
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: on it one time.

1040
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: You know what it's like the read.

1041
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 6: I still don't think it's any of those. Again, this

1042
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 6: is the Golden Globes. The celebrity focus going to say

1043
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 6: every nominee is a celebrity, with the exception of the

1044
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 6: NPR Show. And the NPR is a big organization, so

1045
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 6: it's like as good as the reader is, as good

1046
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 6: as high learning is, they're not hosted by celebrities.

1047
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I think there has to be You don't think that

1048
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: the Bachelor is a celebrity.

1049
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 2: Slavery was again.

1050
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 6: In the context, in the context of Golden Globes and

1051
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 6: Golden Well.

1052
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why, and that's why I think advocacy

1053
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: comes into place. Somebody or a group of people come

1054
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 3: in and say, hey, we need to look at this now,

1055
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: because these are the other things moving and shaken and

1056
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: the cold Well. That was gonna be my question if

1057
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: if Jason's point, if there used to be less than

1058
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: one hundred reporters, and I'm guessing that they're not doing

1059
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: like the Grammys. They do events all year long, so like,

1060
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: where would be the opportunity to do that advocacy if

1061
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 3: the people who are voting or the organizing body isn't

1062
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: setting up situations for people to come in there and like, yeah,

1063
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: you're having a drink between a it's.

1064
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: Going to south By Southwest, it's going to pod people,

1065
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: it's going to even all of the conferences and things

1066
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: where the people are in the room.

1067
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: To have these conversations.

1068
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, advocacy in Golden Globes.

1069
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: That's another part of watching this video.

1070
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: Jason's over there like success.

1071
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: Like you know, we were we were talking offline earlier

1072
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 6: in the week and I was saying, it's like with

1073
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 6: the podcast industry, it's so fragmented rights like the celebrity

1074
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 6: of podcasting industry, which is like YouTube centric and video

1075
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 6: there's like the black podcasting industry. Then they're sort of

1076
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 6: like the indie public radio podcasting industry, right, like the

1077
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 6: regular people that actually yeahs yeah. So it's like we're

1078
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 6: who's awarding what you know what I mean? And so so,

1079
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 6: what what do you want from the Golden Globes in

1080
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 6: terms like to acknowledge different categories that aren't celebrity, Like

1081
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 6: what do you really want from them, you know what

1082
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 6: I mean?

1083
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: It's like is is I don't know why I'm blinking

1084
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: her name? What's to call me? Daddy Alex. She's considered

1085
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: a celebrity.

1086
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: Now she's moved through the cycle right like she was

1087
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 6: like she was independent then you know, started through bar

1088
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 6: school and spun out. You know, yeah, she's serious exem so.

1089
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 6: But now she's you know, fully she's a celebrity in.

1090
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Her own network. The Unwell Network documentary she.

1091
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: So essentially, we shouldn't set ourselves up to even be

1092
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: too concerned about cracking this category anytime soon, because it

1093
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: sounds like niggas is just like the system is already

1094
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: set up for what is set up for?

1095
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 6: I have a question for you, John, You're gonna start

1096
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 6: a podcast, right yep? What category is your podcast going

1097
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 6: to be in?

1098
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: I think it would end up it's going to be

1099
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: a culture podcast.

1100
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 6: So okay, so society and what's available. It's available because

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00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 6: it's going to go to my point, So society and culture,

1102
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 6: top shows stuff you should know, the Ezra Client podcast,

1103
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 6: the Seawan Ryan Podcast, I've had it, Criminal, This American Life,

1104
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 6: the Determined, Freakonomics, Sword and Scale, and the telepathy tapes.

1105
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 6: That's the top ten, right, So and that's culture.

1106
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: But who's called and this.

1107
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 6: This is this is what I'm saying to Mandy right, Like,

1108
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 6: podcasting categories are largely defined by Apple right.

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00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: And if we're talking about afficacy.

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00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 6: A king, right, it's like they're defining that. So it's like,

1111
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 6: where what is something like like Deontay Kyle's podcast fit

1112
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 6: in right? Like because if you look at him we

1113
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 6: talked about, I would say.

1114
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: But when I look at those other we don't fit.

1115
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: I hope it sounds like what I don't want to have.

1116
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I want an urban category. Give

1117
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: us okay, R and B.

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00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 6: Y like that.

1119
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 4: I like the urban, and then you have the sub

1120
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: under the urban, right, But I just don't want it

1121
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 4: to be you know, and I'm not gonna throw no

1122
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 4: entities under the bus. But where we have the black

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: version of something something and then five years in it

1124
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: doesn't get the attention that it needs to continue and

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00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: then just fall by the wayside and we don't have

1126
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: anything anymore.

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00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: Again, the hypocrisy is the same thing going back to

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00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: how the the Internet reacted to Tianna Taylor, like you're

1129
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't. But we're

1130
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: in a place where we've had the b ET Awards

1131
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: get shitted on our own community. Like we have a

1132
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: place where unfortunately, when we get to award our creatives

1133
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: our community, then it's like what a white man don't

1134
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: acknowledge it?

1135
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: So it ain't it don't matter.

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00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: And I think to me, we have to start respecting

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: and celebrating our own just within our own community and

1138
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: stop waiting for the white man to give us a bone.

1139
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: So can I say something?

1140
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: Let me put it out there now, because if we're

1141
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: gonna do something like that, we might as well just

1142
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: say it. What So should we get should we have

1143
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: like the Black Effect Podcast Awards Baby, the Black Effect

1144
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: Podcast Awards Unbiased Culture for the Culture Podcast at Large?

1145
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: We might need to just group check that next.

1146
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why he got that bag.

1147
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: Here.

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00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Charlotte, we're talking to you now.

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: Nigger like charlam Man.

1150
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna go from entertainment to education. And this

1151
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: is America. Don't got to sleep and this is journalism.

1152
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: Jah on the scene, talk to us. What's happening with.

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00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: Morris Brown and the c au Here in Atlanta.

1154
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: So out of nowhere. This week Morris Brown fired their president.

1155
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 4: And I want to make sure I say his name.

1156
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: I think it's Kevin James.

1157
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: Y'all If y'all see this, James making the journalist.

1158
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, big tabs.

1159
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, So Morris Brown fired their president, doctor Kevin James.

1160
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: To day.

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00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: It came out, not today, this week. It came out

1162
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: of nowhere. He didn't expect it, no one else expected.

1163
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 4: He had just had his annual review.

1164
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: It was a good review.

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00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: Morris Brown is one of Atlanta's historic iconic HBCUs located

1166
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: near the AUC with more House and Spellman and Clark

1167
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: and they back in two thousand and two, two thousand

1168
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: and three, they lost accreditation because there was crazy financial mismanagement.

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00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: Just they had gotten downs where they only had like

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: four students enrolled at the college. Like the whole thing

1171
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 4: was a mess. The buildings were bad, like they had

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Speaker 4: a lot of work to do. They lost their accreditation.

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 4: Doctor Kevin James came in and over the course of

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: twenty years built the school back up, got their accreditation back.

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: They were able to get federal funding again. The student

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00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: enrollment had gotten up to like five fifty or five forty,

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: something like that. So they were getting students back, they

1178
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 4: had money, everything was kind of stable. He ran this thing,

1179
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 4: built it back up from the ashes for two years,

1180
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: and then twenty years and out of know where, it

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00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: got fired by the board. So people who or Morris

1182
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: Brown alumni, students, people just in the community are shocked

1183
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: by this because it's like, damn, why did you fire

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: this man. They still haven't presented a reason. There's no

1185
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: reason at all. They put out some statement basically saying,

1186
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: you know, he did a great job, we wish you

1187
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: well peace, don't let the door not I hitch you.

1188
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: And he's just like, I'm on a contract till twenty

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 4: twenty nine. They're out breaching my contract to fire me.

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00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: They didn't give me a reason.

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00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: My review was good.

1192
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: Morris Brown is about to be back up for an

1193
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: accreditation review soon. He's like, y'all look crazy firing me

1194
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: when y'all are trying to get keep your accreditation. So

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00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 4: a woman on the board is going to be interim

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: president in the meantime, but it's like, y'all look unstable.

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00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: The whole part of keeping your accreditation is looking like

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: things are going right. Here turmoil, and y'all have created

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Speaker 4: this turmoil right at the point that you're supposed to

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: basically get the bag again. So what the fuck is

1201
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: going on? So I watched people react to this. I

1202
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: watched a video of an Instagram user.

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00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: She's a doctor.

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00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: She used to work on the board of an HBCU

1205
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: that she didn't want to mention to be for messy reasons, right,

1206
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: But she was basically breaking down how the boards at

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00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 4: these schools are short sighted and often lead to the

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00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: downfall of school presidents. Many school presidents have gotten fired

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: over the past five, six, seven years, and it's starting

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00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 4: to kind of make HBCUs look unstable, right, And so

1211
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: there is this I guess there's this push to try

1212
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: to get these boards to get onboard and fly right

1213
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: so that these schools can continue to grow and we

1214
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 4: can still have access to black education because without the

1215
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: federal funding, your schools keep getting losing their accreditation. Without

1216
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: federal funding, most of these schools can't afford to operate.

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 4: It's not going to be anybody in the communities to

1218
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 4: come save them. You're just going to see HBCUs go

1219
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 4: out of style. And so yeah, and so there's a concern.

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Speaker 2: They're removing critical.

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Speaker 4: Trickle down effect. So this is the interesting part of it.

1222
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: So over the past couple of years and even some

1223
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 4: in his first term, the Trump administration gave HBCUs.

1224
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: A lot of money.

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Speaker 4: There was a program that they did that was based

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Speaker 4: like a one time gift grant of like five hundred

1227
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: million dollars that was supposed to get distributed across HBCUs.

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Speaker 4: He did another program called the Future Act that was

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 4: supposed to I think, inject another two hundred or three

1230
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars to HBCU. But he's doing that at

1231
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Speaker 4: the same time, to your point, while telling white schools Harvard,

1232
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 4: Yale threatening them with basically legal action if they don't

1233
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: get rid of DEI.

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Speaker 2: So it feels like what.

1235
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: Is happening is Trump is saying, you niggas, go to

1236
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 4: your nigga schools and stay out of these places of

1237
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: higher education, Stay out of Harvest, stay out of Yale.

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01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: You're not coming here. But you can go to your

1239
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: more house, you can go.

1240
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 6: To your little Man whatever you want to go over there,

1241
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 6: but they won't give you the money to do it.

1242
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 4: We'll give you and we'll give you the money to

1243
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 4: do it, but don't come over here trying to mix

1244
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: up with with our good white INTELLECTUALWI started the earth

1245
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 4: white kids who are going to change America. The other

1246
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: shady part of it is the money that was Like,

1247
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: this money didn't come out of nowhere. Some of this

1248
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: money was earmarked for other things, specifically what they call

1249
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 4: minority serving schools, which are mostly Hispanic institutions, so colleges

1250
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 4: and universities around the United States that specifically enrolled and

1251
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: speak to Hispanics students, and they took their money and

1252
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 4: gave it to us. So now it sets up another

1253
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 4: dynamic of yeah, y'all got the bread, but now y'all

1254
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: can fight amongst each other about funding how it gets used.

1255
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: Because we took the Hispanic people's bread, give it to

1256
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: the black people. Now y'all niggas can argue amongst each other,

1257
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: oh wow, and will shut down the DEI shit at HARVARDY.

1258
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, So it goes.

1259
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 4: Deeper into a lot of things where there's a lot

1260
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 4: of questions that are being asked. And I don't have

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 4: any information on this specifically, but it for me, it

1262
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: begs the question of when you see these boards, who

1263
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 4: is on these boards and are some of these people

1264
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: compromised by some of this money that's flowing in or

1265
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 4: are they Are they saying, Okay, well we got this

1266
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 4: bread from trumping them. And so even though thank you

1267
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 4: doctor Kevin James for being a great fundraiser and having

1268
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 4: resources and being able to talk people into giving us money,

1269
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 4: we don't need that no more. We got the bread

1270
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 4: from Orange Daddy. So Priests, you go over there and

1271
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 4: we can just run this ourselves. We don't need you

1272
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 4: no more. Who are those people on these boards who

1273
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: again may or may not be compromised? But I just

1274
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: think it begs the question when you look at the

1275
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 4: larger picture of how some of this stuff is happening,

1276
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: you kind of have to follow the bread.

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: It's weird because we're talking about the money and funding

1278
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: that goes to the schools, and immediately, what I think

1279
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: is where we're at currently as a country where you

1280
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: have jobs telling you you're overqualified when you have certain degrees,

1281
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: you have a limited job market right now where there's

1282
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: really no jobs, and then you have Trump right now

1283
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: really affecting people's credit and everything in terms of paying

1284
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: back their student loans, while also saying that certain professional

1285
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: degrees are no longer professional degrees, nor do they qualify

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: to take out certain federal loans because they're no longer

1287
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: professional degrees, and those specific professional degrees impacting hello minority

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01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: women specifically, like again when we talked about the healthcare scope,

1289
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: while also people coming out and saying that bachelor's degrees

1290
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: don't really mean nothing. You don't really need it to

1291
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: get a job anymore because what they're trying to do

1292
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: is too much of you nigga's got degrees. So like,

1293
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: there's an interesting thing happening right now with higher education

1294
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: in this country that for me, as a millennial with

1295
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: two degrees, now feels like damn, I'm still sitting on

1296
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: this much student loans that has to be paid back.

1297
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: But also looking and realizing that I've been paying my

1298
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: student loans since twenty eighteen. Okay, I did take out

1299
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: them two years that they let us all be done.

1300
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: Since twenty eighteen, I've been paying back. Haven't even touched

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01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: the press.

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 2: I say, interest you A lot of it is just interesting.

1303
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: So is this hamster will of constantly leaving the Americans

1304
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: in debt while also impacting their credit while also telling

1305
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: us all that this hard work that we did, and

1306
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: doing this thing for four consecutive years and sometimes more

1307
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: means nothing in the grand scheme of things. And it's

1308
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: why if you guys haven't listened yet. Going back to

1309
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: the episode that we had with Domity early on, talking

1310
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: about what the American dream actually looks like, has us

1311
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: in this space of what is America right now? And

1312
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: again in terms of higher education, how and why are

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Speaker 1: are we pushing it? What does support look like for HBCUs,

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Speaker 1: What is the president right now doing with passing these

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Speaker 1: bills that are heavily impacting what it looks like for

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Speaker 1: us to have continued education?

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing is I brought up the Morris

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Speaker 4: Brown thing just from the standpoint this is there's a

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Speaker 4: larger conversation and play about what's going on. So in

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Speaker 4: some of the research I was doing, I found that

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Speaker 4: this is HBCU News who published this article I think

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Speaker 4: this was back in this was September last year, that

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Speaker 4: sixty percent of HBCUs are at risk of losing their creditation.

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Speaker 2: Jesus. Part of the.

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Speaker 4: Reasons sorry, not accreditation, their access to federal loan funding,

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Speaker 4: pepel grants and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: The reason that there are that many of them.

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Speaker 4: In trouble is because in order to qualify for those grants,

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Speaker 4: a certain number of your students have to be actively

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Speaker 4: paying them back. So you hit an number where if

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Speaker 4: your student body has not default.

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Speaker 2: On their loans, you can lose your federal funding.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm not gonna yeah X amount of I didn't

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Speaker 4: know until I started reading about it, so X amount,

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Speaker 4: X amount of numbers.

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Speaker 1: So, and this is why people you have to read and.

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Speaker 4: That's why you have to get this information because yeah,

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Speaker 4: because yeah, shout out to y'all was dirty. We didn't

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01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 4: get right here, y'all think it's ain't ship for how

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Speaker 4: y'all treated that.

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Speaker 2: Man. We'll talk about that. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: We got to get there to be reading stream.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get there.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there maybe next week, maybe next week. Add

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Speaker 1: that to the doc. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we get

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Speaker 1: when we get in our new studio.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah that yeah, yeah yeah, well Chris and that

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Speaker 4: one with some with the streaming, we're not gonna forget

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Speaker 4: about y'all.

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Speaker 2: We've seen y'all.

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Speaker 4: So there is a thing called the cohort the cohort

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01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 4: default rate, which basically measures what that index number is

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01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 4: whether or not you're going to lose your accreditation or

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Speaker 4: use your access to these funds.

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Speaker 2: So there's a one year trigger on this co Heart

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Speaker 2: default rate.

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Speaker 4: If a school's most recent CDR co Heart default rate

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Speaker 4: is forty percent or higher, it could lose access to

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Speaker 4: direct loan programs almost immediately. So that's forty percent of

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Speaker 4: your student body that is taking out loans. If they default,

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Speaker 4: you lose access to this. There's also a three year

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Speaker 4: trigger that if your three most recent CDRs are thirty

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Speaker 4: percent or higher. So if thirty percent of your student

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Speaker 4: body defaults on their loans for three consecutive years, you

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Speaker 4: lose access to pelgrams and direct loans for those people.

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Speaker 4: So to your point, if the economy is fucked up

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Speaker 4: and niggas don't have no bread and they have to

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Speaker 4: take out the loans they can go to school and

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Speaker 4: they can't afford to go to a PWI and a

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Speaker 4: public or private HBCU makes more sense for them.

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Speaker 1: The solution is a piece of chicken.

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Speaker 2: And one other and one of her idol in order

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: for you to be.

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Speaker 6: Able to that's how you get nominated for a Golden

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 6: Class podcast.

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: How you doing Information and you go straight to the

1377
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 4: top to get you a little ghostatue.

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01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 2: Now, now, now I did.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being a journalist and

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: bringing that in here.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know a lot.

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: Of things things, but also it's job's polite way of saying, bitch,

1383
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is read it was all it was.

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01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: You gotta read it. You know what I mean? Speaking

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01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: of talking to your husband, Kirstie Scott will not be

1386
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: talking to her husband.

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Speaker 2: And that was a crazy she's good crazy.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I got a transition potter right there, call.

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Speaker 1: Me a tran Anyways, Kurtie Scott filed for divorce in

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Speaker 1: the last week.

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Speaker 2: That had the Internet going to a blaze.

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Speaker 1: Now, y'all, Kurty Scott and ex husband now Desmond Scott,

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Speaker 1: met at the age of fourteen, married when she was

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Speaker 1: nineteen and he was twenty. They are now divorce thing

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Speaker 1: after twelve years of marriage, and she filed. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the details too. He came out,

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: It came out and was made aware to us that

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Speaker 1: he did ask to separate before she filed. And the

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: knowledge that I wanted to bring to this was because

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01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: a first off, let me also share with y'all. I

1401
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: do not give a fuck. Hey, people, people, people divorce.

1402
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: Every day, break up day every day.

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01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: Like I already told y'all, this idea that a marriage

1404
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: is supposed to last forever is a fallacy.

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01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: That y'all shouldn't be fucking believing in anyway.

1406
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: But here we are married.

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: The road he traveled though.

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, yeah, you gotta meet like Jason did in

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01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: order to have longevity. Anyways, what I found interesting about

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing is not only Desmond Scott kind of

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01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: asking for a separation prior to Kurtsy filing for divorce,

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Speaker 1: but also was the fact that they are both Jehovah's witnesses.

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01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: Have you heard the good news? Listen?

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: And now here's my ignorance again. I never really knew

1415
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: much about Jehovah's Witnesses. The only thing I grew up

1416
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: knowing is that they go door to door and they

1417
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: don't celebrate holidays. That's all I knew on Saturday about

1418
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: this community, you know what I mean, except the Watchtower. First,

1419
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: I ain't want none of the pamphlets, okay, to listen, listen, listen.

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: All I remember is when they came to the door

1421
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: my mama was like, shut up, act like nobody's here,

1422
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: They'll go away, Like we never even answered the door

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: for them niggas, Like we wasn't trying to be bothered.

1424
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: We wasn't trying to be bothered.

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: Ghost God, how, I don't know what. God, I don't

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01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: know what.

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01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: Which I was like, all right, turned down the TV,

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: all turned down the TV. All right. So I wanted

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01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: to get into some things that not only came apparent

1430
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: to me through TikTok, but also did a little deep dive.

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:04,520
Speaker 1: My husband and helped, of course, And I was befuddled

1432
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: at what I found out about how Jehovah's witnesses lived

1433
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: their lives now outside of going door to door, going

1434
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: to church on Saturdays, and not celebrating no types.

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: Of no holidays, none, not even to birthday.

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it was interesting to read how they go about

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01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: their interpersonal relationships. So they view that dating is for marriage,

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01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: so nothing is casual or recreational. Dating should only also

1439
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: happen with both people are ready for marriage, which to

1440
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: me was interesting because this clearly didn't happen if they've

1441
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: been together since fourteen, but interesting early on in dating,

1442
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: there is a thing called chaperone dating, so it's strongly encouraged,

1443
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: especially for the younger members, where the parents chaperone these

1444
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: two people while they go on dates. Now, in terms

1445
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: of sexual conduct, there is not to be any sex

1446
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: before marriage. It is strictly forbidden. This includes intercourse, oral sex,

1447
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: and any other sexual activity pornography.

1448
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 4: So meat beating is not allowed and ain't neither is pornography.

1449
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: No neither. Listen, what you're supposed to live.

1450
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 2: God knows, God knows your heart and dick.

1451
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: Now here's the interesting thing about marriage specifically. It, like

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01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: many other religions, is viewed as a lifelong commitment, and

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01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: divorce is only considered acceptable if adultery occurs, which clearly fine, no,

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01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: no not. Desmond said, I want out. She said, you

1455
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: ain't going nowhere. He said, let me go dive in

1456
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: some other pussy so I can get out. He read

1457
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: the terms and conditions of JO He said, wait, what.

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: Is the use agreement popped up. He was like, no, no, no, no,

1459
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 2: let me read before I accept.

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 4: By the way, when you take a vow, it says

1461
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: to death do us part. That means if you funk

1462
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 4: around it's okay.

1463
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: Well you can no funk around find out we can

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01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: get divorce now like adult adultery allows.

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: Reach a contract, breach of contracts and marriage.

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: By the way, remarriage is also only allowed if the

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: previous marriage ended due to adultery or death. Is that

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: not great?

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: Wait? So it's saying if we just break up because

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01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't like you no more?

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: And and what's the what's the term that most people use?

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Speaker 2: Your recond.

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01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 6: You can't get married to break up, But y'all can't.

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01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 4: You have to leave, you have to stop being to

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 4: whole witness, you have to just.

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: By the way, what I'm interested as well. I'm not

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: sure how many Saturdays they attended service, but when breaking up,

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01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: specifically due to sexual activity or adultery, it may often

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: lead to disfellowshipping and being removed from the church. They're

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 1: typically shunned and and they end up having not only

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: limited access to the church, but often can be a

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: reason for no contact from family or friends that are

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: in faith. Now, clearly y'all saw the video of that

1484
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: nigga's sucking face with a whole, and then we saw

1485
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: her do the typical let me chop my hair off

1486
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: thing to me being very I don't want to call

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: it performative, but it's like we're in the metaverse of entertainment,

1488
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Like everything that we think it's supposed to happen in

1489
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: the movie is happening. Of course, we see him with

1490
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: the other lover and she chops her hair off and says, well,

1491
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm keeping the apartment same address again. I didn't care,

1492
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: but I did find this as a really interesting moment

1493
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: to learn more about, you know, Jehovah.

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 6: Jehovah's witness so too interesting. Jehovah Witnesses tidbits. Yeah, they

1495
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 6: don't celebrate holidays, but the Jackson five still has the

1496
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 6: greatest holiday album ever.

1497
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: Wait, that's fun Jehovah's Witnesses.

1498
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

1499
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 6: It's just bad hunting.

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: Do you have to be practicing even though you grew

1501
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: up in it?

1502
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 6: You have to the second tidbit, you should ask Shaw

1503
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 6: brother Charlemagne. Charlemagne grew up, you.

1504
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 2: Grew up Jehovah. Yeah, he converted to.

1505
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 4: You guys on Earth, right, Yeah, it is a five percenter.

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if I think I think I

1507
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 6: think he's a reader.

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 2: I think the reader.

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know how any of that works.

1510
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 4: I don't know if you have to take it's not

1511
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 4: like he abserves the principle. It's not like the American

1512
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 4: Jewish person. Yeah, it's like it's not like Islam. You

1513
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 4: have to take like a five percent of sha or.

1514
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what they do, but I don't think

1515
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 4: it's like that type of thing.

1516
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 6: But he talked, But he talked about in the radio

1517
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 6: a lot he grew up.

1518
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does talk about on the radio.

1519
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: Did y'all grow up in any religion here?

1520
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: Christianity, regular Christianity? And why why do y'all By the way, By.

1521
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: The way, I'm about to be petty, we decided to

1522
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: make our We decided to make our day of recording.

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01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: So I want to know why don't outside of the

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: juicy skit, you.

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: Want to do this verst Well, I be honest with you.

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 4: With me, I never like church. Even as a little kid,

1527
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 4: I didn't like church. I was now granted, like you're young.

1528
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: My thing was this little kid, I didn't want to

1529
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 4: get up on Sunday.

1530
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: Leave me alone. I want to sleep.

1531
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: This is one of the two days I could sleep.

1532
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: And then I'm going to like the churches that I

1533
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 4: went to weren't like Megachurch is how it is now.

1534
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 4: My version of the church is like an old ass

1535
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 4: crumbling building in the hood in the centers. Yeah, pretty

1536
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 4: much more or less like old ass building in the

1537
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 4: hood somewhere, old black ladies with big hats and colorful

1538
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 4: dresses and like preaching the pul pit the choir choir robes.

1539
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 4: Like that's my version. That's what I know a church.

1540
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 4: And I was never really interested in any of that.

1541
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes you hear some good singing, sometimes you hear a

1542
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 4: good message, but like, I never really wanted to go

1543
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 4: to church.

1544
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: I believe in God wholeheartedly, but I was just never

1545
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: in the church.

1546
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: I've shared this on my other podcasts. So I actually

1547
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: used to be in a missionary so went to church.

1548
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: Not the sex position guy. I mean I was a

1549
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: mission I was in missions and every Wednesday I would

1550
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: go to church, and I had a whole sash and

1551
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: used to get little like like like kind of like

1552
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: how the boy Scouts are. You get a patch for

1553
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: every every book of the Bible that you're able to

1554
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: go up in front of the class and recite. There

1555
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: would be certain, you know, stories that I would have

1556
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: to go up there and recite verbatim. And this was

1557
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: middle school, okay, twelve thirteen used to have a word

1558
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: skirt below my knee like a white collared shirt. Gir

1559
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: else and so did that and it started probably high

1560
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: school was my first questioning of the church. I remember

1561
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: going to and we went to a church quad. We

1562
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: went on Sunday's Baby, and my pastor ended up Pastor

1563
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: Clint Brown.

1564
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm just going to put it out there.

1565
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: He ended up going through a public divorce and not

1566
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: only went through a public divorce, but at the time

1567
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: he drove a hummer to the church and so he

1568
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: had oh he this was from all that.

1569
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 6: Thing, right, and so Clinton Brown, is this Judah ministries?

1570
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: No, it was, it was. It was called I think

1571
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: it was called He's white Man that had soul. Okay, wow,

1572
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: white man was sold McDonald listen. And so started questioning

1573
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: church a little bit there because I'm like, okay, so

1574
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: they can get divorced and they can using these tides

1575
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: and offerings to line their podcasts, okay. And then when

1576
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: I got to college, this wasn't until I was twenty

1577
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: four years old because I'm non traditional student. My first

1578
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: year I took African American studies and boy learning how

1579
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: much the Bible was quoted for masters and just our

1580
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: country as a whole amidst slavery, in amidst propaganda. The

1581
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: propaganda of it all was like, wait, y'all were slave

1582
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: owners and were Christians?

1583
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: Y'all were?

1584
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 3: It also used to say there's parts of the Bible

1585
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: that justify slavery because of what they identified was our lenis.

1586
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: But that's my thing to know, even that the Bible

1587
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: can have all these different interpretations, and they interpretated in

1588
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: the nasty and the worsen possible. So I was just like,

1589
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was like, I don't like it. I

1590
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: don't like I will say maybe this year, I would

1591
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: like to.

1592
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: Have a couple of episodes.

1593
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: I want to I want to have some deeply spiritually

1594
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: rooted religious like diehards here to really figure out like

1595
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: their minds. Okay, that like, I would like to do that.

1596
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 4: I didn't like church, but I like Sunday School, and

1597
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 4: Sunday School is how I.

1598
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 3: How was my introduction to hip hop really because it

1599
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: was a kid. He was older and he snuffed me

1600
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: a CD at the time the album was already out,

1601
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 3: but he was like, yo, listen to this and it

1602
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 3: was ice Cube thatth certificate.

1603
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: That was the first Wow, that crazy place to learn.

1604
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a CD or a tape or vinyl, like,

1605
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: was it really a CD?

1606
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 6: It was.

1607
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 2: Old CD CD.

1608
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 4: But I had to I had to hold that till

1609
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 4: I was able to We didn't have where we're going

1610
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 4: to play, So my brothers and sister was already out

1611
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 4: the house.

1612
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm all the rules apply. Yeah, able to

1613
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: break through. So then I had to figure it out

1614
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: and I figured out where did you figure out?

1615
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: Where was the first place you put that CD?

1616
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: I had?

1617
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 3: I bought a CD player allowance and ship Yeah, very

1618
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 3: big bones joint. And after that changed my entire perspective

1619
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: about all the ship My parents shielded.

1620
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: Me from listen. I heard, oh ship this.

1621
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 4: If you listened to death Certificate, it's a very societal

1622
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 4: driven anti everything.

1623
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 2: It's just it's a scary way to learn about the world.

1624
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 3: C I C and that was my opening portal to

1625
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: hip hop, and I was like, Wow, So I credit

1626
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 3: Sunday School for that. Wow you got to wear a

1627
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 3: suit and then yeah, I didn't want to get dressed

1628
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 3: and every stand up, stand.

1629
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: Up that.

1630
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Mom just like, oh yeah, wake up, it's only eleven.

1631
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 4: We just we got wait to one o'clock and then

1632
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 4: you got to talk to the people and you want

1633
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 4: to go eat something, and then it's like a whole day,

1634
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 4: the whole day, and then school starts.

1635
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: Again the next day and ended. Well, let's get into

1636
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 2: the mess.

1637
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: If y'all don't mind, this is where we could just

1638
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: laugh at these niggas. This is all I want to do.

1639
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: We're not laughing with y'all.

1640
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: We are we are Let's.

1641
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: Get into celebrities say the darness things. Over the last

1642
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: week we have all been laughing at Cam Newton, who

1643
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: sat across from Lady London and podcast Friday. Now you

1644
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: know what I just we have other men here. I

1645
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:04,759
Speaker 1: want to know as a collective, were y'all not in barras.

1646
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: Were y'all embarrassed? It's like, was there any secondhand embarrassment

1647
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 1: to watching one of your brethren.

1648
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 2: His community?

1649
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's y'all. I actually want to remove him from

1650
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: the Urban podcast late. Actually I don't want to be

1651
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 1: associated for you, No none. What were y'all thoughts? And

1652
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: the viral eclips by the way, there's two yere we

1653
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: have him inventing a word, and we have him talking

1654
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: about his astrology signe. Do we want to play bowl?

1655
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: Do we want to how do we want to react

1656
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: to this? How do we want to take this topic

1657
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: head on? Because I want to laugh at this point, y'all,

1658
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: we've been kind of serious talking about all the other

1659
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: time that the.

1660
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 4: Thing with Cam that made me, that gave me the

1661
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 4: second hand and embarrassment was that he couldn't just fucking

1662
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 4: take what Lady London was telling him and just take

1663
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 4: the fact that you was wrong and let her give

1664
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 4: you some correction. It was super easy. She wasn't even

1665
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 4: really coming at you. She was like sparing you and Sartes, Yeah,

1666
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 4: like you couldn't just take that word I made up?

1667
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean.

1668
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: But I think what he likes to do is sit

1669
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: across from bird brain bitches that he feels like he

1670
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: can have gotcha moments on right. I think he genuinely

1671
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: believes he's one of the smartest people in the room

1672
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: and one of the smartest people in any conversation he

1673
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: has and wants to kind of still be the leader.

1674
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: He sees himself clearly, he mentions himself as a cod

1675
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 1: but but it was really interesting too, because kind of

1676
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: going to what your topic was and this is America,

1677
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: he really tried to stump her and bringing up how

1678
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: much too she would probably prefer to go to a

1679
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: PWI over in HBCU. And I found him really drilling

1680
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: her in that notion to be really nasty, because what

1681
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: are you doing right now? I do want to play

1682
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: the clip as if y'all probably haven't heard it already,

1683
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: but if you're sitting at your desk, if you're riding

1684
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: in your car, I too want you to laugh with us.

1685
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Can we play the clip.

1686
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: Of him inventing the word inclector? In inclector, describe your

1687
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: style one word that's an adjective?

1688
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: Can I use the word that I've already used.

1689
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 4: Wrong?

1690
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Well, the heavy on the end? No? No, no, it's

1691
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 2: my word?

1692
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: Oh is the going n C L E C T A.

1693
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Okay? Inclected? Do you want to know what the end

1694
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: stand for?

1695
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 6: That?

1696
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 2: Okay? Respectful?

1697
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Are you not embarrass Okay?

1698
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: We can stop it there, but you know what.

1699
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna give it a thousand. No, it didn't.

1700
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: It did not work.

1701
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 2: If people got it out, they're gonna have merch on it.

1702
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 6: Now.

1703
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 4: I mean, it worked, but he talking about it. Everyone's

1704
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 4: talking about it. But here's the problem though, In the

1705
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 4: same week that he makes up this dumb ass word

1706
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 4: because he's too defensive and too afraid to let a

1707
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 4: woman to say my bad, it's the same week that

1708
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,799
Speaker 4: y'all fuck ass niggas slaughtered Kais and not for trying

1709
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: to look up words and trying to know how to

1710
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 4: pronounce them correctly and what they mean. In the same

1711
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 4: niggas showed themselves and I'm just like, I can't like,

1712
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 4: y'all are killing me. Please, y'all problems have to stop

1713
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 4: this ship.

1714
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 3: If you don't, there's no do you know how many

1715
01:25:54,439 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 3: we went to school with some of these people? There

1716
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 3: is an elementary high school right now.

1717
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know what, to be fair, It's

1718
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: why I say it all the time in terms of

1719
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: people who can put violent strings behind their videos and

1720
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: form complete sentences.

1721
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: It's why it's.

1722
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: Why America gawks at them like they're saying something vol

1723
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: because there's such a lack of people understanding where y'all

1724
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: know again, I'm probably hypocrite because y'all know I will

1725
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: make up a word like anybody else up in through

1726
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: but inclectic in terms of even how we go about

1727
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: spelling things. If ever, the anything in the English dictionary

1728
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: starts with the pronunciation of n.

1729
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: It's either I N or eat in.

1730
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: And the fact that that nigga went stright to end.

1731
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 4: Last week, but it was five minutes ago. Part was

1732
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 4: he was spelling it like he was using his finger

1733
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 4: to read a real word, like going underneath the end.

1734
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: C wait, wait wait can I Also, no one is

1735
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: talking about either the fact that he literally said eclectic

1736
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: and some and when he went to spelling it and

1737
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: it would a y but the ic k like he

1738
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: said it with an inch and it didn't even end

1739
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: with an inch. And his spelling he gave me the ick.

1740
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: It gave me the inch. And I was like, so

1741
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: the conversation that I ended up having with my friends

1742
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: here because it was so hard as a woman to

1743
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: admit this. And when I got in the group chat

1744
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 1: and I asked all my friends, I said, the embarrassing

1745
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 1: part about this is.

1746
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: That's the high value mast that that's what that's what

1747
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: the nigga yeah and so and.

1748
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: So to see him talk, to see him not even

1749
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: know how to actually formulate a spelling of a word,

1750
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: but nor even have an engaging enough conversation.

1751
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Where we weren't all embarrassed for him. I was like, damn.

1752
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: But because of his looks, his wealth, his power, his

1753
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: dad touchdown was in every which way, the fact that

1754
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: this is still considered the high value man, I'm like,

1755
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: he luck.

1756
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: I don't get that. Yeah, I don't get that.

1757
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 4: The funny part about it is the whole way that

1758
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 4: ship played out is that like she looked like a

1759
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 4: woman on a bad first date who was like, I'm

1760
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 4: never calling this nigga.

1761
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have fun while I'm.

1762
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 4: Here, because this nigga is dumb, So at least I'm

1763
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 4: gonna get some entertainment out of this situation.

1764
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: Say, you two may be be able to get compensation.

1765
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1766
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: It felt like she should sue, like like she had

1767
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: to sit there that whole time.

1768
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 4: And already she was like, oh, this is what we're

1769
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 4: doing right now, Like okay, so you men get comfortable

1770
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 4: and just see, like what are the depths of this

1771
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 4: stupidity that I'm about to hear right now?

1772
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because this was actually a visual representation

1773
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: of unfortunately, what it's like to go on dates and

1774
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: be a single woman and have to have constant conversations

1775
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: with men who because their men, perceive themselves to be

1776
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: more bright, more brilliant, more right leaders. This is what's leading,

1777
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: by the way, if you haven't seen it yet, it

1778
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: was very interesting as well. He also got got last week.

1779
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: It didn't go as viral, but just would urge you

1780
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: guys to listen to his sit down with Tdjake's very

1781
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: of course, because that's not in our algorithm, because we don't.

1782
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: Go to church.

1783
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: If y'all want to see him also get banged out

1784
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: paused by a man. I mean, I'm saying Tdjake's kind

1785
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: of put it to him anyway. Now, there was one

1786
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 1: other thing that I found interesting, and we talked about

1787
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: the podcast nominee, and this is where my mind went

1788
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: in terms of not even high value, but how we

1789
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: place men in front of podcast micsir, how we elevate

1790
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: our voices right that the same way y'all are mad

1791
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: of Tianna Taylor playing a stereotype. I put Cam Newton

1792
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: in the category of hear me out, Shannon Shark, Stephen A. Smith,

1793
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas, there's probably more. But in terms of yes, yes,

1794
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: siding culture urban urban in this landscape, I'm thinking of

1795
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: the voices that we pedestal, and often it is this

1796
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: over masculine, kind of wrong, really loud voice of a

1797
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: black man that unfortunately those get the money. It's why

1798
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp could have this huge blowout over a sexual

1799
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 1: harassment claim and still go on to make millions.

1800
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 2: It's why Stephen A.

1801
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Smith can sit on an ESPN platform and get a

1802
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Disney check worth millions and millions of dollars. It's why

1803
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Gilbert Areena's well, where he made a horrible deal selling

1804
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: is IP over to DraftKings. It's why he's been able

1805
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: to kind of create an ecosystem of his loud and

1806
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: a brace of voice. And when I see what Cam

1807
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: is doing, Cam is not only on Funky Friday with

1808
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: his podcast, he is a commentator. And so what what

1809
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: is interesting is when we have these voices upset of

1810
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: the stereotypes that are being portrayed in acting, why we

1811
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: don't have the same uproar of what I perceive to

1812
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: be a negative stereotype of a black man constantly being

1813
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: pedestaled in platform.

1814
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, for Steve Shannon Sharp.

1815
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 4: I think is is one thing. I think that some

1816
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 4: of the difference with Shannon Sharp is I think he's

1817
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 4: able to still go forth because essentially his show is

1818
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 4: about like sports and foolishness. So although I can understand

1819
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 4: that point that you're making, I feel like he's not

1820
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 4: talking about anything important really, Like I feel like Sharp

1821
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 4: show is all entertainment With Steven A.

1822
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: Smith. I think Steven A. Smith, I think his journey into.

1823
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 4: This political talk, I don't think it's going well. Like

1824
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 4: all he's done since he's coming there is shit on

1825
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 4: black women and pissed people off. I don't know, like

1826
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 4: maybe he's building a real I know right wingers are

1827
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 4: down with that shit, but all I see is Steven

1828
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 4: a slant more than normal. Like it's one thing he

1829
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 4: think he has bad sports take or whatever, but like

1830
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 4: the levels of slander that he's taking right now are

1831
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 4: different for him.

1832
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I would apply the same word that you just used

1833
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: for Shannon Sharp, though, foolishness, And to me, it's all foolishness.

1834
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: And so to me, when we're talking about the six seven,

1835
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 1: eight figure checks that are going to us, if we

1836
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: if we're upset at the black woman for winning the

1837
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: award for being over sexualized. On the other hand, I

1838
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: don't understand how we're not as equally upset with the

1839
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 1: black man being pedestaled and given all this money to

1840
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: continue pushing foolishness and stereotypes. I mean, Shannon A Sharp

1841
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: sat across from Skip Bayless would a goddamn konyak and

1842
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: a and a goddamn blake in my out in his mouth,

1843
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: like looking like a goddamn cone. We have Stephen A

1844
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Smith who is literally bow jangling and being a coon.

1845
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: And I do think that in terms of what Cam

1846
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: is kind of displaying, it's very it's not the best

1847
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: representation of a black man. And so if we're gonna

1848
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: be upset with how black women are represented in the

1849
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: entertainment space from an acting standpoint, I just don't understand

1850
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: why black men aren't questioned to the same regard where

1851
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: they display themselves in the entertainment space as well.

1852
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 6: Man, I still have a question many do you, because

1853
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,799
Speaker 6: I feel like I hear the criticism, but I wonder

1854
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 6: if your issue is because it's not as loud right,

1855
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 6: because like the people who are criticizing Channa Taylor presumably

1856
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 6: are men, and the people who would criticize Stephen A

1857
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 6: and Cam shouldn't be men, would be men, but they're

1858
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 6: just not. They're not saying it with a whole chest.

1859
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: To me, it's the hypocrisy. And my issue lies in

1860
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 1: with what this podcast is about is what I'm seeing

1861
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: the outrages of and it's me seeing the clear distinctions

1862
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: in one episode, like niggas is laughing at this shit

1863
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: but not really calling it out like it's an.

1864
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: Issue because maybe some of them are the same.

1865
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: And that's where I have an issue in terms of

1866
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: how black men are represented in entertainment. I hate that

1867
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: this is, this foolishness is what gets platformed and what

1868
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: people perceive most black men to be.

1869
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 4: Well, also part of it is and this might be

1870
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 4: an unfortunate truth, but like even when we talk about

1871
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 4: people being platformed, like Steven A. Smith has an audience

1872
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 4: and that if he shows up anywhere on the internet,

1873
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 4: that audience will probably follow him. There's people who are

1874
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 4: interested in what he has to say, whether they some

1875
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 4: people hate watching him, some people agree clearly with some

1876
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 4: of the crazy shit he's saying. But like what, I

1877
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 4: don't know what you do to stop people from liking

1878
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 4: a NIGGA and participating.

1879
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean you don't because Andrew and Charlie KARKI.

1880
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think so.

1881
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 4: I think there's some degree, like I think there's there

1882
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 4: should be criticism, and I think that I think there

1883
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 4: is criticism for some of these individuals. But I also

1884
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 4: think that at some point, the uncomfortable truth of it

1885
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 4: is that in the age we live in right now,

1886
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 4: if you work for a major network or something like that,

1887
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 4: then that I can see you saying, Okay, don't have

1888
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 4: this person on seeing INN, MSNBC, whatever, TV show, whatever.

1889
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 4: But when it comes to having an audience of people

1890
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 4: who want to hear what you got to say, there's

1891
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 4: literally nothing we can do about because the ignorant are

1892
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 4: going to follow the ignorant shit that they want to hear,

1893
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 4: and people who agree with this red pill shit or

1894
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 4: whatever the bad take is like they want to engage

1895
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 4: with the people that they fuck with, And I don't

1896
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 4: know what any of us can do about it to

1897
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 4: get them off of that other than present better ideas

1898
01:35:55,439 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 4: and use our microphones to say shit that is more

1899
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,440
Speaker 4: healthy for the community.

1900
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Then maybe what they got going.

1901
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 1: On leaning into ignorance, leaning into the algorithm, leaning into

1902
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: us wanting to see black men represented better, and.

1903
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 2: You have amplify those who are the building. I was

1904
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: going to celebrate us.

1905
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: No, I was going to add two more names. Then

1906
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: you got Jim Jones and fifty cent. I was just

1907
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: going speaking of which both both men have pretty much

1908
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: came out and said that they know how to keep

1909
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: people talking about them.

1910
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 2: Prison and jail the same though.

1911
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you mean by that?

1912
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 4: You said that they both they have said that.

1913
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I think one applies it in a different way

1914
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 3: and the other one is acting like he created the algorithm.

1915
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: I actually want that on a shirt, President Jen Not

1916
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: the same thing?

1917
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 2: What the fuck? At least how you spell it differently? No,

1918
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 2: you said jail is spelled j A L E.

1919
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 6: J A y heavy heavy on them, the heavy on

1920
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 6: the G.

1921
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: But I do want to know your thoughts then, seeing

1922
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:16,839
Speaker 1: seeing both of these New York black men carrying themselves,

1923
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: well you.

1924
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 2: You do, that's a question for you.

1925
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they represent you know, actually two borls. You don't

1926
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: represent that. This is Queens and Harlem here. But how

1927
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: how would you what are your thoughts on on what

1928
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 1: we're seeing with with Jim Jones, we've seen him already

1929
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: go get cam.

1930
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 2: But now we see Jim and the Let's.

1931
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: Wrap about It podcast crew going to get fifty and

1932
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:39,560
Speaker 1: all the things that are entertainment.

1933
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 3: It's entertainment. I don't think it's nothing serious. I think

1934
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 3: maybe with Jim a little bit. He you know, fifty

1935
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 3: is interesting. He's an interesting human being man, and I

1936
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 3: love how his mind works. But I think we have

1937
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 3: enough sample size over the year to what two decades now? Yeah,

1938
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 3: stop playing with fifth man. He don't Fifth got time,

1939
01:37:58,439 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 3: all the stuff.

1940
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 2: Movies making, tending, you wouldn't think he had.

1941
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 3: I think when he passed down time he embraces that

1942
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 3: ship because and I do believe when he says, I'm

1943
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 3: not the problem. But when they when they engage with me,

1944
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 3: then I gotta participate. I believe that I'm summarizing. But

1945
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 3: he got time, So I mean it's entertainment. You know,

1946
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 3: they have a studio. I don't know how he gets

1947
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 3: all those information about what's happening there for him to

1948
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 3: be so on point with it in real time.

1949
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna hold you though, Like I've

1950
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: I've been to Jim's studio early on. I went to

1951
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: the first episode of the let's wrap about a pod

1952
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: before I knew it was going to be a weekly thing,

1953
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 1: and there was easily thirty people in there, Like he

1954
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 1: has a barber that shows up and cuts the guys

1955
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: before he got but there's bottles. It's a production, but

1956
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 1: there's an audience and who I don't know if because

1957
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: you have the four guys on the pod, because you

1958
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 1: do have a production happening, who's all just inviting these people?

1959
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: And if any of them are really there, Like if

1960
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: everyone there is Jim's close person, you don't know.

1961
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 2: There was a lot of people up through there, like ship,

1962
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 2: I can't you got four dudes who have cruise cruise.

1963
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: Cruise no crew.

1964
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you have four people each one and

1965
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 3: then those four have plus two's and then it becomes

1966
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 3: a whole thing.

1967
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1968
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: So so like as much as like people, like there's

1969
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people that go through there who often

1970
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I've been around Jim so much. He is a man.

1971
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 2: Of the people.

1972
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, he will walk down the

1973
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: street like he constantly has people around him, people supporting him.

1974
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 1: That is a man who New York is behind him.

1975
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: Literally part of it. What go ahead, we.

1976
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Get cut it out later if you're talking ship.

1977
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 4: No I'm not.

1978
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: But you said New York. Don't do that. Don't do that.

1979
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: Don't do that.

1980
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Don't do that.

1981
01:39:58,240 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Don't do that.

1982
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Look, he's just trying to separate.

1983
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: Is there a Mason Dixon line.

1984
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: Like your division you his studio is not even in

1985
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 1: Harlements in the Bronx. It's been so bro.

1986
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 2: Baby, I think we are in search also just also

1987
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 2: from the Bronx. Was born in the Bronx. So that's what.

1988
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So don't do that. Don't do that. I don't know.

1989
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 4: I love everybody saying with two Brooklyn niggas, yes they are.

1990
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: He got I think.

1991
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 2: I think.

1992
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 6: I think the history, the history of Jim and Cam

1993
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 6: is just so intertwined. And I'm sure Jim got people

1994
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 6: with him that there are still Cam's people.

1995
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 2: And that's that's how the video.

1996
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 3: Even you even look at the whole fifty cent dynamic, right,

1997
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: you have Cam and fifty had their issues and then

1998
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 3: they over the more recently they passed up and now

1999
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 3: they're like cool.

2000
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2001
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Even the Jim and Dame thing for that to make

2002
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: lights to the internet again, it's like this past week

2003
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: for what.

2004
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 6: I also think the question around it's like taking it

2005
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 6: more serious.

2006
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 2: Than they are.

2007
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Whoever took the video Initially it seems like they were

2008
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 3: probably with Jim with Jim, so something happened because that

2009
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 3: had to be from that.

2010
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 2: Camera from that side. Yeah, how did this? How did that? Oh?

2011
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: Easy? People fall out every day and you can break

2012
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: up every day with yeah I got you.

2013
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, here you go. But I'm like you, is

2014
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 2: that a paid gig? No?

2015
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: But I don't know how many years ago that was.

2016
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:34,839
Speaker 1: But he took Apple Apple moving everything to the cloud.

2017
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I just got the seventeen my pictures from twenty seventeen

2018
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: is stilling that bitch? So like with the cloud, like

2019
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: you can literally go through your phone from eight years ago,

2020
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: yeah and have all of those videos and things and

2021
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: and not even know it.

2022
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: Somebody was tighty like, oh I still got this ship

2023
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 2: right here?

2024
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2025
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 2: Hold up non facts? Crazy but not. Shout out to

2026
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,879
Speaker 2: all of those brothers. Fifty What's name, Let's.

2027
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Talk, don't don't you? Let's rap about a podcast?

2028
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 2: Shout Let's wrap about it? Podcast shout out.

2029
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 1: Shout out to more celebrities getting into the podcast space

2030
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: to be honest with y'all. I'm really glad I know

2031
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Jim as a creative, creative person. I think Mano he's

2032
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: had his own podcast.

2033
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 2: He gets on with Angela y. I think Mano is

2034
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: great on air.

2035
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: My my question and concern would be the longevity of

2036
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: Dave and Pab doing that. I don't think that they're

2037
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: as animated on the mic. I don't know how much

2038
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: of their own life they're willing to talk about her,

2039
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 1: how honest they're willing to be on the microphone. I

2040
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: do like, however, how they all got in.

2041
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 6: That's that's their group chat though, Like remember going to

2042
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 6: Pandemic they were.

2043
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Going to fitness like Brookie, I was so confused. Lobby

2044
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 1: Boy the Lotty Boys was Jim and Mano, But I

2045
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:52,480
Speaker 1: didn't understand.

2046
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 2: Well, Fab used to come to the workouts.

2047
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 6: The workouts at each other, like I think it's just

2048
01:42:58,840 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 6: an extension.

2049
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: But I don't.

2050
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 4: I love that they do it. Shows comraderie, shows, brotherhood.

2051
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Planet Fitness was my problem. Yeah, like Pizza like I

2052
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: heard you, I heard you, Like I would have felt

2053
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 1: better if they went over there to the to the

2054
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,480
Speaker 1: park at the Yankee Stadium.

2055
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 2: Like Jam.

2056
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: During COVID.

2057
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 2: That's what it went there.

2058
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: No, Yo, that motherfucking planet fitness ship.

2059
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 4: Fit.

2060
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: It made twenty five pounds.

2061
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 4: Weighs twenty five pounds there and it weighs twenty five

2062
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 4: pounds in the street.

2063
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: We hated orange theory or wherever you go. I hated it.

2064
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 6: But you know, do you remember do you remember that

2065
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 6: clip of Jim talking about pushing tea that went around

2066
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 6: like you're to fifty? So we recorded that. That's when

2067
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 6: I was doing the Rap CAVR podcast and we recorded

2068
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 6: that outside of gym's his gym that he has in Jersey,

2069
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 6: and it's like he had like a little small office

2070
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 6: in there, and I was like, you got an office

2071
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 6: speak but it was too small. We couldn't record out there.

2072
01:43:55,479 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 6: So then he ended up that's true. It's perfectly fine

2073
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 6: for the business.

2074
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:09,839
Speaker 2: That he needs to production further. His mind is always will.

2075
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 6: Busy dude, but he you know, he does it. We

2076
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 6: pulled up his truck to the building the Wi Fi

2077
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 6: and we recorded it out of ass.

2078
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 2: But he's a hustler.

2079
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 6: He keeps moving and finds a way to.

2080
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 2: Make it happen. And he does.

2081
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 4: He did.

2082
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 6: That's a story.

2083
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: He does well. We'll have to get into maybe on

2084
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: a bonus episode over on Patreon, the ips that he

2085
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: has fumbled in us hoping that all of his businesses

2086
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: in order, especially with this podcast because fifty made claims

2087
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: that maybe everything he's producing in that building could be tied.

2088
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 2: To the owner of the building.

2089
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: So I just hope everything he's protecting because he did

2090
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 1: lose some some i ps and.

2091
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 4: We'll talk about look at Kevin Harten his i P well,

2092
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 4: he sold his name.

2093
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 6: He sold his name that was so well, but he

2094
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 6: also sold it to also become an equity partner in the.

2095
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 2: Company they create.

2096
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 4: If he has, like his new line of cars, he's

2097
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 4: going to still get Jason.

2098
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: Could you could you add that to the docket for

2099
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: next week. I'd love to.

2100
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 2: Get just brand is going to live one hundred years

2101
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 2: plus now?

2102
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to look into what that looks like.

2103
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: All right, And before we get out of here, y'all,

2104
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Jake Cole is coming to me. It is coming. February

2105
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: sixth y'all. He announced the release of the anticipated fall Off,

2106
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 1: which allegedly, which I'm hoping not will be his last album. However,

2107
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm really excited that it was teased that it could

2108
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: possibly be a two disc. He released his new track

2109
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 1: from disc to track two and he could.

2110
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 2: Do no wrong.

2111
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: In my eyes, now he literally can do no wrong. Minds.

2112
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 1: What I'm what I'm hoping for, and I want to

2113
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 1: just drop my predictions. And what I'd like to see

2114
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 1: is of these two discs, one of them being still

2115
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: completely free of collaborations, because that's what we're used to

2116
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: seeing from Cult. We're used to not seeing any extra people.

2117
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Of course, it is also being rumored that he does

2118
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 1: have some people have been named and un listed as

2119
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 1: possible claves. Oh that's on one disc. And then we

2120
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: still get like his his og style of no features.

2121
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: I want to know feature.

2122
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 3: If it's a conceptual album, then I would assume those

2123
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 3: features tie into It's not just about skill set, it's

2124
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 3: just about tying into whatever the narrative is that he's

2125
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 3: trying to.

2126
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if this is the fall off, I would

2127
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 1: I mean, and if we lean into features, I believe

2128
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: we'll see twenty one feature black feature. I'm hoping because

2129
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: the last one we got I think was miss a

2130
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: nice watch. I would like to see j at least

2131
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: give give him a verse.

2132
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 2: I would see it, but not if he's saying on

2133
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 2: there so called king on that. Yeah, I don't think

2134
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 2: that that shut me is very strange. That struck me.

2135
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 2: But but he's been kind of leaning into there being

2136
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 2: some type of tension.

2137
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Over the years.

2138
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 2: What has he.

2139
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 1: Well, we know he don't really talk to nobody, but

2140
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 1: where have you gotten the exact like where you believe

2141
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 1: he's come out and hinted.

2142
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 4: At beef outside of the beef beef. I don't think

2143
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 4: it's beef specific cool. I think he's discourse and I

2144
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 4: think it goes back to when he first got with

2145
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 4: rock Nation.

2146
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 2: This is just as a fan I'm saying this.

2147
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 3: I don't when when he when he talked when the

2148
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 3: story is out about how in front of Drake he

2149
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:48,679
Speaker 3: told him that he needs a record.

2150
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 4: He suggested that Drake gives him a hit record in

2151
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 4: front of him. That's kind of you know it was

2152
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 4: that was.

2153
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,759
Speaker 1: Become that emotional bro like in terms.

2154
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 6: Of being.

2155
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: But what was his pot series called what was hist

2156
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 4: I forget what he called it, but he talked about

2157
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 4: how like that was embarrassing, form inevitable.

2158
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: He did talk about how that was a little that

2159
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 2: moment was a little embarrassing for him because it was.

2160
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 4: Just like damn, yeah, yeah, yeah, that might might make

2161
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 4: you feel a certain especially because he talks about a

2162
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 4: lot of that time. He's talking about being insecure and

2163
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 4: trying to find a way to be secure as a person,

2164
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 4: as an artist, and so stuff like that, Mike can

2165
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 4: stick with him.

2166
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 1: It's where, but where do you allow your insecurity at

2167
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: one moment in time right of trying to go uphill

2168
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: with your career, At what time do you let your

2169
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: insecurity consume you and eat you up without getting over it?

2170
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you get it.

2171
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 1: But when he got from Jake Cole, not what he

2172
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: got from Jake Cole, but he got he was on

2173
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: on on Hole's album. Hole definitely gave him I want

2174
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 1: to say, like two verses maybe three, and then he

2175
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 1: even got a Beyonce feature, and we like the party

2176
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: like he got the he got to roll out because

2177
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: if we think about it too, Rihanna was rock nation

2178
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 1: and also really wasn't put like much like jay Z

2179
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: just might not be that.

2180
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, maybe it could be playing into

2181
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 3: the concept of the record where he's just telling it

2182
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 3: from a perspective at that moment, because he's reverse. So

2183
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 3: when he says so, he's not like he's calling him

2184
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 3: a so called king.

2185
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't. We gotta listen to the when

2186
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 2: the product comes out, and.

2187
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 1: Can we do a whole episode on the Jake Absolutely,

2188
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: I got a caveat that I'm going to present to you.

2189
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason, because I didn't No, no, I J

2190
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 1: Cole is my man.

2191
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 6: I like J Cole Fans can be a little insufferable.

2192
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 2: The whole episode. I was gonna say, Jay, if we

2193
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 2: do that right, man has to.

2194
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 4: Celebrity says she has to agree. Also do the same

2195
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 4: thing for Aubrey's album and for Kendrick's album that's coming

2196
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 4: out this year. But here's you're gonna have this?

2197
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 6: No, no, no.

2198
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: While I'm a cold fan, I'm also very honest the

2199
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: same way I am with Denzel right yeah, oh wait

2200
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 1: for your eyes only, Like like okay, the same way did.

2201
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 3: You see when Spike Lee put out Damn when they

2202
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 3: said they was gonna do the showing of it of

2203
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 3: the movie somewhere in Brooklyn and then the comments was

2204
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:43,719
Speaker 3: like why.

2205
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the thing. The same way I can

2206
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 1: be critical of Denzel, who I put it a very

2207
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: highest demon that I love as a fan and that

2208
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: I support.

2209
01:50:52,680 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: Mind you, I've already Washington. Yeah, yeah, definitely not. Our

2210
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 2: audience is very mature. They don't. They think it's yeah yeah,

2211
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 2: y'all seen that clip.

2212
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: No no no, but like in terms of my honesty,

2213
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: right for your eyes only. Hated it as a project.

2214
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: Probably his my least favorite project from him. I like Neighbors,

2215
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 1: Drive is number one, number one, and k k D.

2216
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know why they don't like ko D.

2217
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:33,759
Speaker 2: I think again, go back everybody.

2218
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, k D is such a good album.

2219
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 1: And then of course, I mean and then you have

2220
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: all his mixed taptes which I love that are now

2221
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: on the ds, like a class Friday Night Lights. The

2222
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: warm up Born Center was his first album, then Sideline

2223
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Story like.

2224
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 2: Cold but Cold is dope.

2225
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 6: My thing is like I think Cole is very much

2226
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 6: like comes from like the classical element of hip hop,

2227
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 6: puts out a warm up record. He's gonna roll it out.

2228
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 6: But I think fans that it's like the commentary about

2229
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 6: this record, it's like, oh man, it's amazing. In reverse,

2230
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 6: who does that? He's back to save hip hop? And

2231
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 6: it's like all right, man, listen like he's one of

2232
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 6: the premier talents and hip hop. You can enjoy that

2233
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 6: without like like the context, like yo, he can do

2234
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 6: it himself. He can do it himself. And it's and

2235
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 6: it's to a king's point, Like it's interesting. What's his

2236
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 6: re entry point considering where he last left us?

2237
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: Let me ask all of y'all with him even releasing

2238
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: this rewind of his life, are you guys upset if

2239
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 1: there's no mention or or response to him stepping out

2240
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: of the beef?

2241
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 6: No?

2242
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 2: Like, are you mad?

2243
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Don I'm saying for the project, we know that he's

2244
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: been working on this for ten years, But does he

2245
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 1: if he went all the way back to his childhood

2246
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: to even his dad, No, he went fast forward to

2247
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 1: his death. Is there a mention of the overall backlash?

2248
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be. I think yeah, I think

2249
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a direct song.

2250
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 1: Do you think we have a Drake or Kendrick feature?

2251
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: If he's been working on this for ten years, do

2252
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,480
Speaker 1: you think that there's a feature.

2253
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 3: That there was a Kendrick and Drake feature that he removed,

2254
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 3: not together but different that was I don't know where

2255
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 3: it came from.

2256
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 4: But it was talking around it that he was that

2257
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 4: was that was the mall is that he really mall

2258
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 4: started that ship and like we'll never know if that

2259
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 4: was clear gonna come out of that whatever.

2260
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 2: I mean.

2261
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 4: My thing is like I do think there probably will

2262
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 4: be a mention of it somewhere. I would like to see.

2263
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 4: I would like to see it. Both a Kendrick and

2264
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,839
Speaker 4: a Drake feature separately needs an album to see, Like could.

2265
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 2: You know to be dope?

2266
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 3: Remember we talked about the other day about if if

2267
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 3: they were, what would what would Kendrick Drake today after

2268
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 3: everything that happened, And I was like, damn, what if

2269
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 3: they did a record where they both explaining this ship

2270
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 3: with Drake, I mean Drake with Cold explaining and they

2271
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 3: just going back and forth but in rap form.

2272
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,600
Speaker 2: But brotherly, I think it's gonna be. It's gonna be

2273
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: something like that.

2274
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 6: It's gonna be it's gonna be something like that, like

2275
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 6: like like look at the track he did, like he

2276
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 6: took a clip from the internet right and he put them.

2277
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be something where it's like some

2278
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 6: behind the scenes audio of him and Drake, behind the

2279
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 6: scenes audio of him and Kendrick and I think I

2280
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be a song. Look one verses about Kendrick.

2281
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 6: One versus about Drake about himself, Oh, I was, I

2282
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 6: don't know, like I don't have any insight, but I

2283
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 6: expect him to do something.

2284
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 4: My thing about it is I don't The only reason

2285
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 4: I say I don't expect it to go that in

2286
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 4: depth because I just don't know. After port Antonio, I

2287
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 4: don't know what other angles, like you said everything, So

2288
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 4: for me, it's kind of like, what are you gonna

2289
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 4: tell us that we don't already understand.

2290
01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to be convinced of anything.

2291
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 4: Don't do a song trying to convince me of if

2292
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 4: you have some other perspective that we haven't considered or heard, maybe.

2293
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 2: But to me, like the horse is dead and.

2294
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Like well and people keep beating.

2295
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 2: Like that.

2296
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 3: There's a line in that song when he's saying he's

2297
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,879
Speaker 3: the greatest, and that's where people.

2298
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 2: YEA he is.

2299
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 6: But if it's his last album is if it's his

2300
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 6: last album, I think there's gonna be some context of

2301
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 6: like the idea of like they all came up together,

2302
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 6: the story of how they were all tight.

2303
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 4: But not like I think that's like to try to

2304
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 4: put the tie a bow on the lore of the

2305
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 4: Big Three. Yeah, and he's probably the only one that

2306
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 4: could do that. If there's gonna be that moment, he's

2307
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 4: probably the only one that could do it.

2308
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: I will say whether he does it or he does

2309
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 1: something like what we saw in Walle's album where Seinfeld

2310
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: like narrated, I would love some one of these discs

2311
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: to just have a flow of narration, like knowing that

2312
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: this is a project too, that you let us all

2313
01:55:58,160 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: know you've been working on for ten years. I would

2314
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: love to be able to hear that because we've all

2315
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 1: we I guess I'm speaking as a dreams as a

2316
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: cold stand like we've seen the growth in him as

2317
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,879
Speaker 1: an artist. We've seen him become a father, a husband,

2318
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: build his label, sell his label, like bring people up,

2319
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 1: like it would just be really interesting to and I

2320
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 1: like to see it narrated.

2321
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 2: Well.

2322
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 4: The question the record that he released to me left

2323
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 4: me with more questions than answers. To me, it's even

2324
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 4: a strange warm up release, Like I'm not even sure

2325
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 4: it's not a single, Like you're not looking for this

2326
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 4: record to be a smash, it's a storytelling song, and

2327
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 4: you're telling us the story of you're doing the NAS thing.

2328
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 4: But it's like, what is I guess that's just to

2329
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 4: let us know that this is going to be a

2330
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 4: concept album. I think his skill set too. I mean

2331
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 4: he I mean, but he's.

2332
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: Also mentioned and maybe because he went to Saint John's,

2333
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: but he's and and has that queen influence, the Queen's influence.

2334
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 1: He's mentioned Nas throughout his TI for sure.

2335
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that this is the song. I'm surprised

2336
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 4: this is the first music that we hear from this album.

2337
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 4: In this one, I mean, you can I mean, it's

2338
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 4: no longer to you know, talk about it is that

2339
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 4: he talked, He talked about it.

2340
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: He's signed with Jay but like Nas is still his king,

2341
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 1: like Nas is still his barometer. He let Nas down,

2342
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: he said, he ain't let hold down, he.

2343
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 4: Let I think there's a part of Cole that's petty

2344
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 4: though me personally, I think he said certain things.

2345
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 1: He's I mean, all Biracials have a little petty in.

2346
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:33,839
Speaker 2: Especially the birection rappers.

2347
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Make that a second second.

2348
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 2: Racials by man b B.

2349
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I identify as a black woman. I don't identify thank

2350
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 1: you very much. Y'all are going to throw me into

2351
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 1: the mix a confusion.

2352
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 3: Look the fact that we get this twenty twenty six.

2353
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 3: You know, I know there's a narrative. Hip hip hop

2354
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 3: is good, hip hop is great. The music, the business

2355
01:57:57,960 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 3: of music has changed.

2356
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 2: Fucked that overall is kind of in a weird what

2357
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:02,960
Speaker 2: are we doing now?

2358
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 4: You know?

2359
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 2: But I'm excited for it a year, it's gonna be

2360
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a big year.

2361
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: And like I said, if you if you're a part

2362
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: of the stand crew like I am, the vinyl is

2363
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: a bit available for pre order, make sure y'all get

2364
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 1: that cold. Make sure y'all help him get like astronomical

2365
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 1: numbers on this thing.

2366
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 4: Oh, I think he's gonna I think it's gonna do

2367
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 4: big numbers. I think this album is going to be

2368
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 4: very successful for one reason or another. It doesn't even

2369
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 4: have to be about hit records. But I think you're

2370
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 4: calling this your last album. You're doing the jay Z

2371
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 4: Black album thing.

2372
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: I also think in a in a in an era

2373
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: of streaming again, talking about how the business of music

2374
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: has changed, dropping that double disc at a time where

2375
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of times Chris Brown is

2376
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: criticized for dropping you know, thirty.

2377
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 2: Four seventy five you know songs on one album.

2378
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 1: But I think this helps him streaming numbers wise putting

2379
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: that much content.

2380
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 4: So we'll see what kind of double disc it is,

2381
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 4: because there's a double disc where you can do that,

2382
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 4: where you can put forty songs from the ball.

2383
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 2: But it could be eighty eight, it could be five

2384
01:58:58,400 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 2: and five, it could be.

2385
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rocky's album just came out and just two it

2386
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 6: was only three songs, right.

2387
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 2: Because it's Rocky Rocky.

2388
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I'm not gonna lie shut out

2389
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 6: the Rocky.

2390
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 1: If Cole gives me two EPs, I'm gonna be pissed.

2391
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 1: Five albums, five songs, Like I.

2392
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 2: Wish how we packaging it now? Is it changed? So

2393
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 2: it's like you could do anything kind of what I

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Speaker 2: think you can look at Kendrick.

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Speaker 4: If you look at mister Morale, it was ten and

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Speaker 4: ten or is it eleven and eleven something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an acceptable number. If you're gonna Manny,

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Speaker 2: what if.

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Speaker 6: He does five and five and the ten are for

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Speaker 6: the past ten years old on?

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Speaker 2: Because I know this has a lot of songs.

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Speaker 4: Yo, We're gonna have when we dissect that ship, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have some stellar yeah.

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Speaker 1: Water yeah, No, I think I think how many songs

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Speaker 1: was on this album? When I think of double disc,

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Speaker 1: don't judge me, I think.

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Speaker 2: Of R Kelly let me alone.

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Speaker 6: You think you think of twenty plus? If it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be a yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of that.

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Speaker 3: How do you consume music? Like when you listen to

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Speaker 3: when this album comes out? Are you gonna be in

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Speaker 3: the crib? But what's your what's your thing?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I like to put it on Alexa, Alexka, play not Aleska,

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Speaker 1: but Alexa. I like to listen to it, listen to

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Speaker 1: it in the house. I also like to do it

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Speaker 1: in between Errand's and y'all know, I don't drive, so

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Speaker 1: I don't listen to things in the car really for real,

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Speaker 1: for real, but like, yeah, I don't. I don't do

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Speaker 1: a car listen, but I do a house listen. I

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Speaker 1: do it while I'm putting my makeup on, while I'm cleaning.

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Speaker 1: I like to see what it puts me into. And then,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, if the album goes to where I

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Speaker 1: could play it with my homegirls too while we getting ready,

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Speaker 1: like it gotta feel certain things. Now, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: hold y'all. Jake Cole is one of those artists that

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Speaker 1: I do have to just enjoy solo. My friends don't get.

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Speaker 2: Don't get Cold. Yeah, yeah right, I'd be having to

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Speaker 2: put them on cold, you know. Yeah, don't don't do that.

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Speaker 1: You know they'll they'll let me play chef Boy before.

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Speaker 1: But no, that's how I like to I'm excited, I

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Speaker 1: do hope. It's a lot of songs, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to see him on tour, and I know that.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of which we've talked about, all the

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Speaker 4: ship going on around the album, but before all of that,

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Speaker 4: I just want the album to be good.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, col is the dope ass rapper.

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Speaker 4: He's very capable of making great songs and saying things

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Speaker 4: that are like thought provoking in some kind of way.

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Speaker 4: Not that we're not talking about like, oh he's changed

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Speaker 4: my i Q because but just I think he's very

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Speaker 4: good at the message that he wants to communicate.

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Speaker 2: And I just want the album to be good.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also curious. My last thought on it is

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Speaker 1: with him finally dropping the fall off, Dreamville was sold

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Speaker 1: to Live Nation, so I'd be curious to see if

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Speaker 1: he has that presence still at the top of April

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Speaker 1: in Raleigh, North Carolina, because with that going to Live Nation,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: The kissed me off. Bro. I don't, don't.

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Speaker 4: There's no way you can't tell me he's never said

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Speaker 4: the word. I wish, I wish I could get I

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Speaker 4: really wish I could you know what real.

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Speaker 1: Quick, Jason? Can we can we get out of here

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Speaker 1: actually to the lovely news station in Raleigh, North Carolina

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Speaker 1: that literally made this whole thing a bit because this

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Speaker 1: is how powerful our black voice is right about and

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Speaker 1: so this is this is where we do have to

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Speaker 1: be also intentional about what the folks we're putting on

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Speaker 1: these microphones what we say, because this is how powerful

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Speaker 1: our voices are if you can find it. This is

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Speaker 1: what I want to get out with y'all. And before

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Speaker 1: we leave out of here again, I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys know how you can support selective ignorance,

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Speaker 1: and it's by subscribing to us on whatever platform you

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Speaker 2: As you know, we are a Black effect podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are also posting full videos of our Tuesday episodes

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Speaker 1: right over on the Patreon and if you want to

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Speaker 1: enjoy everything, both audio and video in its entirety for

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Speaker 2: Head on over to ptreon dot com.

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Speaker 1: Backslash with Mandy because we're about to be dropping a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of bombs content over there that goes beyond

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Speaker 1: selective ignorance. But before we get out of here, John,

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Speaker 1: where can the people follow you?

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Speaker 4: You can find me on the Instagram at mister hip

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Speaker 4: Hop Obama. Although I've considered changing, I've considered.

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Speaker 6: Breaking news alert Alert, I've considered it's been a brand

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Speaker 6: for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a brand for a long time, and

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Speaker 4: people love that name. To somebody, they either laugh or

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Speaker 4: they gig or they'd be like, oh, that's crazy. But

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Speaker 4: part of me has been like do I and stepping

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Speaker 4: into like my own voice, like do.

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Speaker 1: You want to be in the shadow of another black man?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: Obama is Obama?

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Speaker 4: There's only one Obama. Yeah, so I've been I've been

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Speaker 4: playing with that. I haven't come to a conclusion yet,

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Speaker 4: but I'll figure it out. But for right now, you

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Speaker 4: can find me on the Instagram at mister hip hop

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Speaker 4: Obama on threads, same thing, and you can look at

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Speaker 4: my Twitter page, but I don't be on.

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Speaker 1: There, so oh yeah, you be on threads. You don't

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Speaker 1: hit me in the group chat like hey are you?

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Speaker 1: You should start posting.

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Speaker 2: This engagement is booming.

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Speaker 1: All right, And as y'all know, we got the old

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Speaker 1: g podcast legend a King, we got journalists and Jason

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Speaker 1: we're signing out and y'all before we're gonna play the

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Speaker 1: clip after this. But this has been another episode of

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Speaker 1: selective ignorance, baby, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter.

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Speaker 7: Good morning everyone, We're here to get your Friday started.

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Speaker 2: A lot happening. I'm Rena Ship, I'm christ Salning.

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Speaker 7: Weather and we're looking at a much better chance for

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Speaker 7: a rate. It looks like we get see scattered showers

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Speaker 7: during the day Saturday, especially in Raleia. It looks like

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Speaker 7: Durham also can sees.

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Speaker 2: I'm Elizabeth Holmes.

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Speaker 4: It is now at ten what are you on this

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Speaker 4: Friday morning, and we are taking a live look from

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Speaker 4: Ralijah Durham Airport cloudy right now.

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Speaker 2: There's also some work going on on Terminal two.

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Speaker 1: We're here at RDU this morning where they just kicked

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Speaker 1: off a major construction project.

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Speaker 2: It's going to spand over several years.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be huge for the entire Raleigh

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Speaker 1: Durham area.

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Speaker 2: Visit morning here in the traffic center in the Love

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Speaker 2: of North Hills. Of course, you're in Raleigh and we're

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Speaker 2: having a good time happening now in the w Own

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Speaker 2: Life Center.

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Speaker 7: We're following a breaking new situation of Raleijah.

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Speaker 2: We're working to confirm new.

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Speaker 7: Information from sources, and we're looking at all of our

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Speaker 7: camers across the area.

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Speaker 6: Fayet Bill, this one in Raliah.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of cloud cover over Rallia.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, looking at our rain totals into this weekend up

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Speaker 7: to a quarter of an inch in Raleigh and so

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Speaker 7: ran say it right sorry Raliah into this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I just wanted to say thank you to chade

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Speaker 6: O Jasinko Jeanson about what he kind of corrected us

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Speaker 6: with when Raleigh, we didn't realize we were saying Ralehiah

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Speaker 6: incorrectly by saying Raleigh.

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Speaker 2: So if not one, we'll be saying Ralliah. Now, I'm

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Speaker 2: just kidding. Check coming down to Raleigh.

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