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Speaker 1: watching Bloopers. The substitute teacher is in it. It is

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Speaker 1: season one eight, episode two of The Daily Ze Guys,

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Speaker 1: a production of My Heart Radio. Look you already know

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Speaker 1: take America's skull, rip it open, look in there, get revolted,

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Speaker 1: talking about in hockey little Zamber So Jamie loftus Hi,

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Speaker 1: do a little a kid. It's from It's from Christie.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci mane and it may be left. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Uh Jack failed to fill his shoes when he hired

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Speaker 1: beings I have met, Mr Alex Schmidt. Welcome Alex, Holy

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Speaker 1: cow that intro. Thank you, It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: It was also very difficult to stay silent during that bop.

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Speaker 1: What a great song with its heart in the right place,

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Speaker 1: really into it. How are you doing, Alex, I'm alright.

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Speaker 1: I have recently come into some free time. I'm no

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Speaker 1: longer doing the Cracked podcast. Tweeted about it. People can

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Speaker 1: go see it. I also got my hair cut yesterday

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Speaker 1: What did you look? What it? What was? What were

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Speaker 1: Like like one fifth of grade school kids have a

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Speaker 1: like dominant in the conversation. People are just like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is fine. It's like, no, it's not fine.

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Speaker 1: I think opening, opening, reopening has you know, eliminated. It

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Speaker 1: has brought FOMO back because before it was easy to

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Speaker 1: be like I'm not going out and ship open. Who

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Speaker 1: gives a funk, I'm inside we have to do this.

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Speaker 1: But the second you start hearing wait, you start seeing

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Speaker 1: people partying over here or going out to eat over there.

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Speaker 1: Some people who I guess are purely just driven by

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Speaker 1: like this need to socialize or be out or consume

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Speaker 1: or be served or whatever, like all that stuff just

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Speaker 1: goes straight out the window. Um, And I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much it also shows like in l A too, right,

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Speaker 1: because I can only speak for what I see in

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Speaker 1: this Dyan state. But our cases are not going down

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Speaker 1: and we're up still. All that to me are going

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Speaker 1: significantly still. It's like we're reopening and I feel like

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Speaker 1: every person this just shows how I don't know blindly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. No, this is what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out, and I posit this to this crew here

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Speaker 1: of is it a mixture of people just blindly believing

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Speaker 1: going out because they're like, well, why would they why

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Speaker 1: would they open stuff if we couldn't go out? Or

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Speaker 1: is it I'm trying to figure out what's motivating these people,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure there is a group of people who

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Speaker 1: were just like, well, why would they open if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't safe? But right, I think I think it's exactly

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Speaker 1: what you said, Miles. And then I think it's also

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Speaker 1: and I think it's especially Americans. We just have this

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Speaker 1: mentality that like problems don't last, Like you hear about

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Speaker 1: a problem, and and if you kind of stop hearing

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00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: about the problem, it's probably over. And so it's fine

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Speaker 1: even though like a problem can just keep going, you know,

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Speaker 1: or like like I I'm not a doctor, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a scientist, but like there was news I read when

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Speaker 1: this started and it said X things were happening with cases,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, time to stay home. And then

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Speaker 1: I read the news now and it's like the same stories.

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Speaker 1: I think I should keep staying home, Like that's all

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Speaker 1: I know. I'm just a guy who has Twitter, but

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Speaker 1: that's what I see. Some of it does feel like

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Speaker 1: social media brain of just like if people aren't seeing

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Speaker 1: it in their feeds constantly, they're just like, oh, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's done, which is applies to many situations

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Speaker 1: right now. Um, but it's also I don't know. Some

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Speaker 1: of it is just it seems like just straight up

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Speaker 1: willful arrogance, where it like I had a family friend

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Speaker 1: back in Massachusetts still like throw her daughter a graduation party,

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Speaker 1: and her reasoning was that like, well, we understand social

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Speaker 1: distancing at this point, like we we like the vibe

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Speaker 1: was very like we get it it'll be safe. And

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Speaker 1: it's like if you're bringing people into your home is

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Speaker 1: know how to socially distance and feeling like you you know,

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Speaker 1: no one knows how to deal with this correctly, so

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Speaker 1: so going in with that mentality, it's just like bound

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Speaker 1: to be a disaster. Feel well, And even to your point, Alex, like,

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Speaker 1: America has this habit of entering a period of self

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Speaker 1: examination or awareness around something, and there's definitely a threshold

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Speaker 1: for pain that you know, the collective consciousness of America

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Speaker 1: is willing to sort of endure. And once that we

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Speaker 1: get past that, it's like, Okay, do we really have

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Speaker 1: to keep talking about this anymore? Because I think for coronavirus,

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, people just sort of got to

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Speaker 1: the point where now their discomfort around having to deal

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Speaker 1: with the truth is just too much and it's just

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Speaker 1: a rejection of reality, it seems like. And I think

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Speaker 1: just even to what you're saying about ignoring problems that persist,

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Speaker 1: whether that's systemic racism, homophobia, transphobia, you know, genocide of

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Speaker 1: indigenous people, whatever it is people are willing to look

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Speaker 1: at it to a point, and then when it becomes

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Speaker 1: too uncomfortable, like okay, can we really just please stop?

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Speaker 1: Can we stop? Actually, like I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Just to your point, even to Jamie about this person's saying,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, we get it, we get it. It's not

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Speaker 1: like no, no no, it's not that we just the point

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Speaker 1: was you for you to agree that social distancing is needed,

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Speaker 1: and there's go a step further and understand what the

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Speaker 1: risks are to you and other people, much in the

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00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: same way with people coming having this you know, aha

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Speaker 1: moment with racism in the country, go a step further

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Speaker 1: now and understand what that is experientially, not just sort

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Speaker 1: of like right, I get it, I get it right.

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Speaker 1: These things aren't happening for you to have you get

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Speaker 1: it right. It's that that's not how events work, that's

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Speaker 1: not how the world works. And it just yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think, but I guess, and even I guess

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Speaker 1: to go deeper. When you look at even how we're educated, right,

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Speaker 1: we're even in our own history, we're shown like this

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Speaker 1: thing of like then there was this problem and that

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Speaker 1: went away, and then there was this thing and then

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Speaker 1: that went away, and then there was Hitler, and then

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00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Nazis went away, and then there was this and it's two.

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Speaker 1: It completely robs people of the ability to to pass

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Speaker 1: through the nuances of you know, how any given event

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Speaker 1: unfolds and then how that that event echoes into eternity

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Speaker 1: if there isn't a reckoning with it. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think a tendency. I've been trying to reflect on this

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Speaker 1: more recently of just like how it's very it seems

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Speaker 1: very common in the way we're taught history. Especially it's

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Speaker 1: solved by one or two people and then the problem

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Speaker 1: hasn't existed since. Where Like I've been because my my

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Speaker 1: mom's a second grade teacher, and I've been talking to

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Speaker 1: her about like, well, what do you teach your kids?

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Speaker 1: And like, you know what broad lies are still being

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Speaker 1: taught to kids, and it's still like in a lot

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Speaker 1: of schools, it's basically taught that like like Martin Luther

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Speaker 1: King solved racism basically single handedly and now you know, great,

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Speaker 1: and now it's gone, and like real text book should

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Speaker 1: say Martin Luther King was assassinated when he began to

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00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: connect the dots for people between capitalism and oppression. Talking

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Speaker 1: the books did not reflect that. That would be off,

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Speaker 1: burn your eyebrows off level of truth coming out of

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Speaker 1: that textbook. But that's but even then it's like not

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Speaker 1: even hot because that's just the grim reality of it.

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Speaker 1: But we like, well, I don't say that. It's like

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00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: we don't say what the truth because it's so dark.

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Speaker 1: Imagine capitalism as a concept at all, as a part

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Speaker 1: of history, like never came up in a class that

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Speaker 1: I took in high school. Well, but that's what the

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Speaker 1: schools are. We're also taught, like through this process of

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Speaker 1: academia to become workers. Also, like that's the that's our

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00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: training first, and then we enter the workforce where we've

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00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: been fully indoctrinated, in anculated and know how to be like, yeah,

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00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: you do this and then you get that, and that's

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Speaker 1: how it works. I do this, I do my homework,

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Speaker 1: I get a grade, I do my work, I get

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Speaker 1: a paycheck. It's all, man, there's a lot and then stop.

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00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: And then I prop up the system by telling people

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Speaker 1: to depend on the man for bread when themselves I'm

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Speaker 1: a stooge. Guys don't listen to me for Alex. Yeah, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: Big Bread will get to you after this commercial break. Guys,

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Speaker 1: just hold tight, We'll be right back and we're back.

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Speaker 1: And some good news from the Supreme Court. They have

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Speaker 1: decided that Title seven actually does apply to l g

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Speaker 1: B t q I A Americans, that you cannot be

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Speaker 1: discriminated against or fired against based on sex, and that

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Speaker 1: that has been upheld. That do you imagine what by

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court like the one we got right now,

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00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and Neil Gorsch wrote the opinion, I mean his I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it was a lot of people could say,

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Speaker 1: like because Gorstch, you know, he regards himself as a

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Speaker 1: textualist of the laws, and like he looks at the

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Speaker 1: words and what the words mean, and he could tell

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Speaker 1: based off that, He's like, how could this not apply

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00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: to trans people? Are gay people? Like he's a magician.

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00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: He's a word magician. He can look at words and

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Speaker 1: make interpret them to mean things that they don't say, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh it was and then cut to who is it?

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Speaker 1: Um alito? I think he wrote the dissenting opinion, and

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Speaker 1: it was just it was so I could barely I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't really like to read these opinions because they're

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Speaker 1: so wordy. But like this time, I was kind of

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Speaker 1: interested the dudes like head was on fire, Like it

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00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: was so clear that this was just sort of like, well,

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Speaker 1: what the heck? You know this, this is what they

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: meant to say. It's just about men and women. Uh

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Speaker 1: so a bit about the descent and an email forward.

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Speaker 1: It's just all caps. Yeah, sure, yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: believe that it was it. Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas were

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00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: the other um justices who who uh against us, which

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Speaker 1: is six three, that's not even that's it wasn't even

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Speaker 1: a five four, it's a six, and they all decided

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Speaker 1: to really be on that. Okay, it is. It is

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00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: like it is great progress. I feel like it's news

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00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: that is is needed right now and and and so

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00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: it's like it's I'm very excited about it. I'm glad

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00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: that like Kavanaugh especially is getting like rightfully lit up

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00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: online for because he basically promised that this is how

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: he was going to vote. There are there are a few,

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00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: uh things that are worth mentioning as a part of this.

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Speaker 1: So this is you know, like the LGBT plus community

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Speaker 1: being granted a basic civil right. Um, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: to just my my friend and who's also a wonderful comedian.

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00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: You should follow her. Grace Thomas Uh pointed out, based

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Speaker 1: on her own experience. Um, I'll just read a tweet

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Speaker 1: of hers, she says, we've won the civil rights part

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Speaker 1: of the fight. Now onto the labor part part of

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Speaker 1: the fight. Any state with right to work legislation is

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Speaker 1: still effectively a state where employers can fire trans and

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Speaker 1: queer employees for their identities and simply blame it on

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Speaker 1: something else. So as um incredible as this decision is,

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Speaker 1: and as in the right direction this decision is, it

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Speaker 1: it's frustrating in some ways because it mainly prevents mask

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Speaker 1: off uh, discriminatory firings. And that is not to say

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Speaker 1: that queer people and that trans people are fired for

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Speaker 1: other reasons. Um, and that's oh no, it wasn't about

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Speaker 1: on you know, and I and I know it wasn't

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00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: about that, because if it was about that, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to fire them. Therefore I will be smarter

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Speaker 1: in my discriminatory practices and use the law to my advantage. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's true. Because on one level, it's like we have

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Speaker 1: these things that are granting people, people rights, and it

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Speaker 1: is making sure that certain forms of discrimination aren't being

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Speaker 1: able to be still acted out. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how this also applies to housing. I

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Speaker 1: think there still might be something involved with the Housing

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Speaker 1: Act that may also this may also need to be

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Speaker 1: another uh, you know, frontier that we have to also

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Speaker 1: make sure that we're making progress on UM. But this

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Speaker 1: also ties into that just horrific announcement on Friday from

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration where Health and Human Services was basically

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Speaker 1: saying like, we're gonna funk, We're rolling back all the

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Speaker 1: protections for LGBTQ people when it comes to health care

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Speaker 1: and health insurance on the anniversary of the Pulse nightclub

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Speaker 1: shooting during Pride month. UH, And everyone was saying, like,

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Speaker 1: what if they're really they're going for it. They just

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Speaker 1: want to inflict maximum pain and trauma on these people.

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Speaker 1: UM and our neighbors are co workers. And when you

638
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: look at a lot of people were suggesting that this

639
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: was just them trying to signal what their position was

640
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: before the Supreme Court ruled on this, because this would

641
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: have uh I'm not completely sure, but I have a

642
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: feeling this would also affect people discriminating um based on

643
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: sex in any kind of medical context as well. That's

644
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: my understanding of it. I was, I'm still trying to

645
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: figure out the exact ramifications that, like, if the Supreme

646
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: Court decision affects what was announced on Friday at all,

647
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: From what I can tell, it most likely doesn't. The

648
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: a c l You did a post on it um

649
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: on the decision and on the context of the decision

650
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: um that says that federal laws against sex discrimination cover

651
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: how's education, health carectery, service, and credit. So it's it's

652
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: unclear to me. I think that there is still the

653
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: the a c l. U is still pushing for the

654
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Equality Act, which is a way more um inclusive, like

655
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: across the board Equal Rights Act. Um. I'm I'm I'm

656
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: not quite sure. I mean I think affects this. Yeah,

657
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: all this to say is that this isn't We're not

658
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: fully there either way, regardless of what this is. Because

659
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: until we just make that the blanket law of the land,

660
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: that it does not matter who the funk you are,

661
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: if you need some you will get help, You will

662
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: get medical care. We don't are you okay? Do you

663
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: have heart and blood and you're human? Okay, great step,

664
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: We will take care of you until we like really

665
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: articulate those kinds of values as laws. This struggle will continue,

666
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: and I think this is just sort of this is

667
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: part and parcel of how America does progress. Right, we

668
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: make enough, the points are made, there's a tipping point

669
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: of representation enough that people be like, oh, okay, we

670
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge this group of people. Here's uh, here's

671
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: here are some reforms, definitely steps in the right direction.

672
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: But I think always we're in the pursuit of like real, real, real,

673
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: real equality. And when you think about how, you know,

674
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: how um less likely some trans people might be to

675
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: get you know, treatment for COVID because they don't want

676
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: to be they don't want someone asking what their sexes

677
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: and then being discriminated, like being denied medical care possibly,

678
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Like that's an awful, awful situation to be in. And

679
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: this is again but this this is basic ship that

680
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: we're having to still, you know, do to make sure

681
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: that everybody is you know, included. Um yeah, And I

682
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: know people say with a lot of problems, they're like,

683
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: be sure to vote, and where we say the correct

684
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: thing of like voting doesn't fix all of it. But

685
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: with the specific thing of this, I feel like voting

686
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: goes a long long way, especially because like the Supreme

687
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: Court sort of reactively handles the absolutely massive constitutional stuff,

688
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: and then like Congress in particular and state legislatures will

689
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: write all the the important laws for the other stuff.

690
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: So you know, know who's running for Senate House and

691
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: your your weird state legislature. I shouldn't even call it weird.

692
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: It's thrilling. Does that excite you? I hope it does?

693
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeh know who represents you at every level, like you're

694
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: a fucking herb. If if I ask you who your

695
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: city council person is, who your congress person is, who

696
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: your state and you don't know who that is, don't

697
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: come in here talking about your want to be an

698
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: ally and you want to make stuff different. If you can't,

699
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: even if you don't even know who to speak to

700
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: that can make the changes that we need. So it's

701
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: very easy. It's so easy to just google. You're like

702
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: what city council district am I inn? Or who's my

703
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: assembly person? Really find out those people because you will

704
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: be surprised the kind of the platforms they run on

705
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: are not as inclusive as you think just because they

706
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, claim blue or Democrat or whatever. Yeah, I

707
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: think that there is a lot of ship going on

708
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It has been. It's inspiring and motivating

709
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: to see more and more people get on board with

710
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: local politics and like learn more about Like if you

711
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know, simply just educate yourself on it. Like it

712
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: is not difficult to do. There's a lot of people

713
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: who are also doing it right now. And yeah, like

714
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: at your cities, like or your county's budgets, just look

715
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: at those. Just take a look at those, see where

716
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: they see where the money is going to. Just inform

717
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: yourself because you will be surprised. You're like what I thought,

718
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're like my aunts a teacher, but they're

719
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: given this way more. Huh. Yeah, there's like majority blue.

720
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: There's like blue cities that are still i mean l

721
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: A being one of them, that is giving billions of

722
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: dollars to police forces and the city council is completely

723
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: on board with it because of the various ways that

724
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: they've been bought their campaigns. All that ship. Meanwhile, in

725
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: this city, we're trying to just focus all of our

726
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: efforts to get one different city council person and who's

727
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: not like fully bought by real estate Defension union. It's

728
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: like it's and like to the point where like I'm

729
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: not even in the district. I'm like, okay, so how

730
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: much money do I have to raise for this? And

731
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: District four? Great, let's go because everyone else is such

732
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: a freaking tool of anyway. Please get involved in your

733
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: local politics. Please just conform yourself. Uh. And I'm also

734
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: honestly very exciting that six whole Supreme Court justices said

735
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: that trans people have several rights in a general way. Like,

736
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to be nine, but six is more,

737
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: is more than a bare majority. Alright, cool? Yeah, we can't.

738
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean slowly, it's it's a slow march there. But

739
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm hopefully we can pick up the pace because I

740
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: feel like we're, you know, we're in the midst of

741
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: something where people are opening their hearts a bit more

742
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: to understanding what it means to take care of everyone

743
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: and what it means to be human. I think, you know,

744
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: I think white people, certain groups, certain amount of white

745
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: well intentioned white liberal people and maybe conservatives woke up

746
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: to what it meant to be black or connect the

747
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: dots of humanity to blackness. I don't know what, but

748
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: that is definitely occurring for some people, and hopefully people

749
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: and begin to put these things away, if not just

750
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: saying someone is black, or someone is trans, or someone

751
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: is gay or someone is from this. You can find

752
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: a million ways to describe somebody is different than you,

753
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: but you're overlooking the basic thing, which is that as

754
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: a human being. And if you are even somebody who

755
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: could be looked at as someone different, uh, and would

756
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: you want someone to look at you differently and say, oh, well,

757
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna help that person because they're blank. Like

758
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: that's the kind of that's the mentality I think we're

759
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: slowly trying to to abandon where that there are some

760
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: there qualifiers to the level of humanity that you deserve. Um,

761
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: and that by not doing stuff, you're enabling the existing prejudices,

762
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: like in particular with this this with rolling black um,

763
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, health protections for for trans people. It's like

764
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: trans people are already facing a huge uphill battle with

765
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: most medical professionals and to further role that back is

766
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: going to I mean it, it is inhumane, It literally

767
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: costs lives. It does not force any medical professional to

768
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: have to learn or acknowledge trans people. It's just yeah. Um.

769
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: The other thing, I'm just kind of overall, I feel

770
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm witnessing in terms of like

771
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: the discourse is that like the the the ruling the

772
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: people in the ruling positions, the ruling class, the you know,

773
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: socio socio economic classes that are well up there past

774
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: the one percent. Just they really don't get it. They

775
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: really really really have completely disconnected themselves from the reality

776
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: of regular people and cannot read, like completely unable to

777
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: read the room. Um, because they I think they're so

778
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: used to a system or culture that allowed them to

779
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: operate like that that now that they're finding themselves in

780
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: a place where like the Trump like the Trump administration

781
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they literally said they were caught off

782
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: guard by the level of blowback from UH scheduling their

783
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: rally on June tenth in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and then like, okay,

784
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: we'll I mean I think they did, but I think

785
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: they also figured maybe not enough white people would also

786
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: be upset about that, you know what I mean, because

787
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: they're they're fine being cruel at any juncture, Like they're

788
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: fine with that. That's the whole point, but something for

789
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: them to say like, whoa, we didn't expect this kind

790
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: of blowback. That's like we're caught off guard. That means

791
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: like we like some other white people to tell us

792
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: this was bad too, okay, which is just it. It

793
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: is so like for I mean, on so many levels,

794
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: it's just the like, oh wait, everyone gives a funk

795
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: about like black history. Hold on, we didn't what Like,

796
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: it's just that did you know about this other room

797
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: full of other white people in the same generation who

798
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: have been making millions of dollars for the last twenty years?

799
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: Did you guys see this? Oh my god, Well they

800
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: didn't talk about that at the country club or wherever

801
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: the funk I go to socialize from dark money meetings

802
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: there at the mine cave circle, jerk, you put your

803
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: phone in a shredder at the beginning and get a

804
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: new iPhone at the end of the meeting. But it's

805
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: just I mean, like when I look at stuff like that,

806
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and I look at some of the reforms reforms not

807
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: not not not full on abolition, reckoning, uh, defunding, de emphasizing,

808
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: but reforms that cities are offering up in responses demonstrations

809
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: are also indicative that they do not they're not hearing us.

810
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: They don't get it, And I think part some do

811
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: because they know what it means to give the people

812
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: what they want, which would mean, you know, crippling a

813
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: whole industry of militarized police in prisons that have been

814
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: making billions of dollars um. But I mean, I'm sticking

815
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: at the reforms right in Minneapolis and St. Paul. I

816
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: think they're doing a good job because they were immediately like, Okay,

817
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna try and figure this out. But

818
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: they're still like, we're still seeing things in other departments

819
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: of like we're gonna prohibit warrior style training, or just

820
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: a ban on all neck restraints, or let's not use

821
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: rubber but it's anymore, or let's just do a police

822
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: bodycam video must be released within three days of any

823
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: police use of serious or deadly force. Okay, that's not

824
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: These are not the things that people are asking again,

825
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: these are just tokens. These are symbols, um. But I

826
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: think I feel like so many people are beginning to

827
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: see the police departments in their their cities for what

828
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, I truly I truly had no idea

829
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: it could be different until all this started. Like I

830
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I've I've played Sam City. You

831
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: have to have hospitals and fire and police. You have

832
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: to build all three of those. Otherwise everything goes crazy

833
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: great and like, no, you can just do it differently.

834
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: And I learned that like two weeks ago, which feels crazy.

835
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: It's like not not a crazy in a bad way,

836
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: just like, holy cow, what a thing I was not

837
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: aware of until right this month, you know, right, And

838
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: it does feel so disingenuous for the reform argument to

839
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: keep cropping up as I feel like as the weeks

840
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: go on, less and less people want reform. It's not

841
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: like the desire for police reform is increasing. I feel

842
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: like there's people that you know, I was talking to

843
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: two weeks ago that are like, well, let's relax, let's

844
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: do reform, that are now, you know, now that they've

845
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: learned more and educated themselves a little more, are more

846
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: inclined to embrace abolition entirely. It just seems like it's

847
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: a response to a demand that is not actually happening.

848
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: Because if you just think of it, right, even if

849
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: you said, like uh, in places where there isn't a

850
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: lot of social support or the local economy is depressed.

851
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: Like if someone just said, what do you think is

852
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: motivating people to commit crimes? Some most people say it's

853
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: a lack of support, it's a lack of access to education,

854
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: it's a lack of access to healthcare. They're just generally

855
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: no upward mobility. So you see increased crime out of

856
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: desperation and otherwise, and that's what you're seeing. But then so,

857
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: but the county's answer or the city's answer to that

858
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: problem is, well, why don't we just get more people

859
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: to fucking shoot them and then they'll stop being bad? Right,

860
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: that's essentially the logic, because then we will put more

861
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: police in there. They'll be shook when they see all

862
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: these cops. That will give them to think twice when

863
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: they when they realize they're living in a country that

864
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: has completely abandoned them for centuries. Like, I don't know what,

865
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: it's just seems so disingenuous, and I think we we

866
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: have this thing where these reforms all they do is

867
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: just further this process of denial. Because if by saying

868
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: we just need to reform things, you're not you're avoiding

869
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: the real conversation here about like what are these police

870
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: doing in the context of making us safer? Is this

871
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: conversation about making us safer and making us an increasing

872
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: our well being? Or is this about this concept of

873
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: crime and the good and the bad and these fucking

874
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: dudes have to show up and diet swat team outfits

875
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: or full on swat outfits. Yeah, full Avengers mode. It

876
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: doesn't make it. And that's all people are saying, like what,

877
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: We'll just put the money into help like, let's help people.

878
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: Let's yeah these it feels like the way that some

879
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: conversations are going, It's like, well, we should get police

880
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: for the police. You're like, no, what the video tiny

881
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: guns for your guns? Who will protect your gun? But yeah,

882
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: there's no conceivable situation where the like where the police

883
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: should need a separate group of people to stop them

884
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: from brutalizing citizens, Like it's just like have less of

885
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: the people, like get rid of the people brutalizing citizens.

886
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: And and the fact that I mean, when I've been

887
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: trying to talk to my friends and relatives about police abolition,

888
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: I feel like it is always helpful to remind people

889
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: that a lot of these reforms that are being proposed,

890
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: have already are already in place, Like these are things

891
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: that should already be happening, um, but because of the

892
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: ways that police are um trained and empowered and have

893
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: found ways around, like it's establishing these rules a lot

894
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: of for a lot of police to part. These rules

895
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: are already there and people are just disregarding them and

896
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: like it's well, and they've done a really good job

897
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: of creating all these structures that will protect them from

898
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: actually account having to account for their wrongdoing, whether that's

899
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: like the who investigates them internally what happens? Then if

900
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: there are laws to protect them from lawsuits, can they

901
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: can still get their fucking pensions even if they get

902
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: fired for this kind of stuff, Like it's almost it's

903
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: like what you're gonna do? Okay, you fired me? Guess

904
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: what I still get My Derek Chauvin, I think, still

905
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: stands to get a million dollars from his pension after

906
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: murdering George. Because these are how these laws are set up.

907
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Because being a police officer, you want to talk looting,

908
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing, and you in in l a

909
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: right Like so over the weekend I was talking, I

910
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: was on a like a sort of Q and A

911
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: call with Nithia, who is running for City Council C

912
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: four for District four in the in l A. And

913
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: she's one of the few. She's a city planner. She's highly,

914
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: highly motivated to begin to dismantle these systems of oppression

915
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: and inequality in this city. But that's tough because everybody

916
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: else on that council is bought by everybody UM. And

917
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: she's had a really stunning stat that she mentioned on

918
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: this call saying that it's less than I think twenty

919
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: five people in the entire city that are meant to

920
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: do like one on one um uh, engaging with our

921
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: own housed population in the city. Only we have over

922
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: yeah uh in the city. I think, I don't know

923
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: if it's a county, but I know in this city

924
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And the city is gigantic. And

925
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: when you look at the numbers that we have that

926
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: homelessness has gone up by four it's not but before

927
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: before coronavirus, it went right. Who knows with the second

928
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: housing crisis that's coming along with an administration that says

929
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: that giving people unemployment is disincentivizing um or describing it

930
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: like that, this is where they're real. This is the

931
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: real like war that's happening, you know, because but the

932
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, we were convinced that, oh well then you know,

933
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: maybe we need to work hard or whatever. No, no, no,

934
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: this is set This is all being set up for

935
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: people to make more money off of our pain and

936
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: then walk off laughing. And I just want to bring

937
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: up that with all these reforms that we've seen, because

938
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: we don't want reformation, we want transformation at a bare minimum. Um,

939
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, you know, hey, they passed a few a

940
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: few laws, great great steps forward. But then he said, quote,

941
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: this is Governor Andrew Cuomo New York on Saturday, said,

942
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: you don't need to protest. You won, okay, quote, you

943
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: accomplished your goal. Society says you're right. The police need

944
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: systemic reform. And he's trying to end the outrage there

945
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: and thinks that this can be bottled up. This cannot

946
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: be bottled up because we still have We're still talking

947
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: about toy In Salau who was killed in Florida after

948
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: reporting that she was assaulted, uh and the police failed

949
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: to protect her. We still have we still I'm sorry,

950
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: what's what's the young woman that was killed in acron

951
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Nickia Crawford. Somebody pulled up to a car and just

952
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: shot her through her window, a black woman, and they

953
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: said a white man had just killed her out of stoplight.

954
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: We we are not having a reckoning with the real

955
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: systemic issues and the pathology of racism in this country.

956
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: It's just really disheartening. So I don't when some governors

957
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: trying to say, hey, you guys, won no, we haven't

958
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: one till I don't have to read about another black

959
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: trans woman dying, black trans person dying, any trans person

960
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: being denied care, any homeless person, any on housed person

961
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: being denied care, any person who's been brutalized by police

962
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: not getting justice. These are the kinds of things that's

963
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: when that's when things can end. But but it's not

964
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: going to as long as we get these you know,

965
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: milk toast reforms out here. That's yeah, I mean that

966
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: that is like the danger of incrementalism and people like

967
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: where people were like, well, what's wrong with you know

968
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: in in in stating eight can't wait, Like what's wrong

969
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: with It's like, okay, when you do that, you're getting

970
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: If you know, someone like Cuomo passes a very very

971
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: very basic reform. They're just going to say I did something,

972
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: We're done, Let's move on, Let's go back to the

973
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: status quo. It's like, if you're not pushing for what

974
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: the ultimate goal is, you know, people are people will

975
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: always find a way to halfway it or and and

976
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: and in this case not even halfway it. Like the

977
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: police have never respected human life less. Like it's just yeah,

978
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: that quote from him was infuriating. That's that's that on

979
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: ja at it because the most surprising thing to me

980
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: is I feel like nationally, for all police officers, there

981
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: should have been like a automatic quiet reform going on

982
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: of just all of them knowing this isn't the time,

983
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like if like if

984
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: if I was a police officer right now, I would know,

985
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: like it's more likely than ever that if I do

986
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: something crazy and brutal, it'll be national news, like people

987
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: are paying attention. And and in spite of that, we've

988
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: got Atlanta this weekend and we've got everything else going on,

989
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: Like they didn't ramp down at all. So so if

990
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: like say, oh, let's do a reform that tells the

991
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: police to be a little slower to do something brutal.

992
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: You would think, like the news did that, and it didn't.

993
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: They're just doing even that as being ignored. I mean

994
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: we have like it last week in in Seattle and

995
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: in Portland. There are cases of the police saying, Okay,

996
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: we're not gonna we're not gonna use tear gas anymore,

997
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: and then twenty five seconds later they're using it again,

998
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: Like it's that's a different kind of tear gas. Yeah,

999
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: that's actually, um, it's tear gas from Canada. It's Canadian

1000
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: like it's people like these these systems will always find

1001
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: an excuse to if they can, if they feel like

1002
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: they can get away with giving you two percent of

1003
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: what you actually want, then they will just do that

1004
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: and call it a day, right, Um. And not to

1005
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: say like repealing fifty A in New York is a

1006
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: huge deal because it basically says all your records to

1007
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: your performance stuff will be out there to see. But

1008
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: even in Minnesota people knew about Derek Chauvin. So it's

1009
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: not because that's just one that's just one part of

1010
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: the game to obscure the actions of police is the

1011
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: things like fifty A. But at the end of the day,

1012
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: they're still if they don't have a reckoning with themselves.

1013
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen because essentially, no, I mean, and

1014
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: I know that the policing is diverse, but let's be real,

1015
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: it's an expression of toxic white male supremacy. So you're

1016
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: it's going to act the same way that all these

1017
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: white comics did when people started getting woke and being like,

1018
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: rather than like seeing what time, it was just reasserting themselves.

1019
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, what the folks the problem? Man? No,

1020
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: this is bullshit, Dude, We've been doing this forear now

1021
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: you want to change or no? Funk that, Like, that's

1022
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: the energy of the police right now. That's the same

1023
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: way when somebody has to evolve but their privilege has

1024
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: not ever afforded them the chance to be you know,

1025
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: reflective or see themselves for anything aside from the good

1026
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: guy that they have just deluded themselves into believing they are. Um,

1027
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: And it's the same and watch and I don't know,

1028
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: this is just kind of this is a theory, but

1029
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: much in the same way comic gets canceled and goes

1030
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: to all right, I think the cops are really all right,

1031
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: So maybe they're yeah, yeah, that'd be funny if they're

1032
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: like the cops are learning from louise E. K. Before

1033
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: we get to that, let's just let me just cut

1034
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: that thought off and let's take a quick break and

1035
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back. You were saying, Alex, Oh,

1036
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: there's been so much news. I forgot about that wave

1037
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: when a bunch of white older comics where like, I

1038
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: will be damned if I have to continue to write

1039
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, it was great time. Okay, that was the problem. Um,

1040
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: But that's the arrogance I think whiteness affords some people

1041
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: is to not ever look at themselves as being in

1042
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: the wrong because white faces and narratives have dominated the

1043
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: realities we've consumed for centuries, So that would be jarring. Yeah,

1044
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: but you know what that's But this is what that's.

1045
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: That's what time it is right now, So get you know,

1046
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: bunch your ticket. Don't be an asshole and then have

1047
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: to tell people you were wearing a MAGA hat in

1048
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: the summer. Um. Okay, moving on, Um, this should not

1049
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: be a surprise. There's a new Gallop poll out saying

1050
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: that Americans aren't feeling too good about the state of

1051
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: things here in this country now. I've never been wont

1052
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: to wave a flag or own clothing with USA like

1053
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: emblazoned on it. I think the Old Navy tank top

1054
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 1: s miles. No, No, I stop with Old Navy. When

1055
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: the Performance Fleece boom died out, Old Navy, Performance flee

1056
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Old Navy, remember that ship. Yeah, I was working with

1057
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: Performance Lease, um, and Old Navy was tight because you

1058
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: go in there with twenty bucks and you come out

1059
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: with a whole new outfit. Yeah, you know, and they'd

1060
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, what happened to you. I'm like,

1061
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: don't worry, baby, it's the whole performance performance fleece outfit. Um.

1062
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: I digress. But you know, I think when I think

1063
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: most people, right, I think thinking American people who have

1064
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: a sober eye take on what this country is aren't

1065
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 1: probably view this country as a failed experiment with pockets

1066
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: of decency and fantastic PR just fantasy. The PR is

1067
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: actually the best thing about this company this country because

1068
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: we're doing all kinds of ship and people think we're

1069
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: number one. And then the U N is like, um,

1070
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: we should act maybe need to send like pole observers

1071
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: towards the elections. Uh, we need to talk about human

1072
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: rights violations because I think the pr scheme is starting

1073
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: to wear thin a bit. But now there's this Gallup

1074
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: poll that has been going on for twenty years, and

1075
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: for the first time, the like the self view of

1076
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: how Americans feel about the country has hit its lowest

1077
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: since they began this pole for only twenty um so

1078
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: right now it's still a majority. Don't get me wrong,

1079
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: sixtent say they're extremely or very proud, but that is

1080
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: still the lowest figure ever, the highest right after nine eleven,

1081
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: and it was and only eight percent of the country

1082
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: realized what America was doing abroad to bring that kind

1083
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: of terror to the country. Uh. And then it's just

1084
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: the Dixie chicks. Uh and then so forty uh So

1085
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: when they break it down, only of respond it's in

1086
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: the entire thing, though, said they're satisfied with the direction

1087
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: of the country, which is very interesting, and even like

1088
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: among conservatives, sixtent of Republicans now describe themselves as extremely proud.

1089
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: That's a nine point dip from last year. That's her

1090
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: Republicans now. I don't know if they are responding to

1091
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: the you know, it could also be like, I hate

1092
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: what this country is doing. Look at what George Soros

1093
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: is getting anti foot to do with these fake deaths

1094
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: of George Floor. You know, like if they're on that

1095
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing and that's what they're responding to, but

1096
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: or if they're like, uh, this is this is bad.

1097
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: I think it all depends on how you're engaged. These

1098
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: are interesting because I feel like what is reflected here

1099
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: is like when people are saying whether they're proud to

1100
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: be an American or not, I feel like more often

1101
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: than not, people are responding to like an image of

1102
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: the idea they have of America and like what you

1103
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: have been told your whole life, it stands for and

1104
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: maybe not always what it actually is and what it

1105
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: actually is doing. So I don't know. Yeah, maybe people

1106
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: are just kind of not only just seeing what's happening

1107
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: right in front of them, but perhaps realizing they have

1108
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: been sold a lie. I hope so. And even if

1109
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: you're waking up to it, don't feel bad. Just realize

1110
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: that now you have work to do. Yeah, just tund

1111
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: the role you sleeves up. And I've seen this tweet

1112
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: said a thousand times over the weekend from a lot

1113
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: of black Twitter users of saying like, oh wow, you're

1114
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: really getting tired of thinking about race in this country.

1115
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: M m mmmmmmmm mmmmm mmmmm. Okay, you're getting tired. Okay, fantastic,

1116
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: And I'll leave it there because just this is this

1117
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: is the work we have to do, and I think

1118
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: you should be excited that you could possibly be in

1119
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: a time in American history where we could do something significant,

1120
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: but you don't the second those distractions come back. That's

1121
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: what I get worried about. Why. Also because I'm sort

1122
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: of surprised that this poll didn't find more people who

1123
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: are upset about America, because like that's that's the kind

1124
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: of question where you could come to I'm upset about

1125
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: America or not feeling good about its image, like a

1126
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Like you could also come to it

1127
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: from the way of, like there are too many people

1128
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: against Trump, like like that could be your reason. Like

1129
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: I remember when I stopped watching the NFL or football

1130
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: in general, it was because I think, like the brain

1131
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: injuries are scary and they have like covered up evidence

1132
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: of it giving people long term concussions and problems, and

1133
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: like I have those reasons, and then I would tell

1134
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: people that without getting to the reason why, and occasionally

1135
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: they'd be like yeah, too many people kneeling you're right,

1136
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: and I was like no, no, no, I'm not on

1137
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: your team. No, no, no, different different things like we're

1138
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: we're separate. And so with this pride in America thing,

1139
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: I could see a lot of people being like, you know,

1140
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: it was a great country. But then liberals started blah

1141
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: blah blah, like there could be a lot of reasons

1142
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: for people. It's definitely the lowest it's been for Democrats too,

1143
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: because when they break it down by party, Democrats are

1144
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: always a little are obviously going to be more critical

1145
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: because some people I don't know who on the right

1146
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: could be critical of America for the right reasons aside

1147
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: from what you're saying. It's like, I don't know if

1148
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: people just respected the commander in chief um and let

1149
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: the president lead the country, we'd be in a lot

1150
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: better place. Okay, yeah, yeah, people, I'm sure that people

1151
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: are responding to a lot of different ideas here that

1152
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: are just expressed on the same umbrella. Yeah yeah, but everyone,

1153
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: But the point is everyone is disappointed. Yeah, hopefully. I

1154
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: tried to go to quiz Nos and I couldn't eat it.

1155
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: Sitting inside the restaurant, like, yeah, we're talking about idiots,

1156
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: systemic racism, systemic what. Oh, I don't know. I don't

1157
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. I'd actually I'd like to

1158
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: pivot back to Quiznos. Okay, do you remember the prime

1159
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: rib peppercorn sub Do they still have that? I'm sorry, No,

1160
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about Okay, Okay, that's too much Quiznos knowledge.

1161
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: Hop off in your forward ranger. Okay. And finally, I

1162
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring up, you know, this idea and

1163
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: yesterday's show, I don't forget how much they talked about it,

1164
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: but it's it was very nice to see all these uh,

1165
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: these manifest physical manifestations of of of slavers in the

1166
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: forms of statues and flags and things start coming down.

1167
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: Um and like places like Belgium where King Leopold Man.

1168
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: You want to if you didn't know, there's look, I'll

1169
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: make it easy. There's a behind the Bastard's episode about

1170
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: King Leopold and what he did in the Congo. Check

1171
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: that out, because if you really want to understand, like,

1172
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: this is not in a this is not an American thing,

1173
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: this is a global thing. This idea of white supremacy

1174
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: and the subjugation of non white people is a it's

1175
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: been around um and actually a lot of our greatest

1176
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: Enlightenment thinkers helped begin to create these ideas that would

1177
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: actually be rationalizations for black subjectivity or brown subjectivity. This

1178
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: is a centuries long thing we're dealing with. But it

1179
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: was nice to see these symbols come down because clearly

1180
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: people we we all got on the same page. Surveys

1181
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: says thing racism bad, slavery bad. It used to be

1182
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 1: a hot take no longer. So the statutes come down,

1183
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: um and now like a lot of people are asking

1184
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: like what do we replace them with? You know, what

1185
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Uh? There's like a statue of

1186
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: uh Nathaniel Bedford Forrest who I knew he was in

1187
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: the KKK because of Forrest Gump, because I believe his

1188
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: first name was based off of his last name. Uh.

1189
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: That that sculpture came up in night and you know,

1190
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: they are more and more people want to get rid

1191
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: of this thing. Uh. There's been all kinds of talk

1192
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: about like what do we do? Can we replace it?

1193
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: Can we what do we do with these statues like

1194
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: Roberty Lee. Do we put it up with someone from guar,

1195
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: you know? Or do we take a statue down of

1196
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: a slaver in New Orleans and put up Britney Spears.

1197
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, New Orleans. I didn't mean to say New Orleans.

1198
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: I will cancel myself in or okay, and put it

1199
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: up with Britney Spears. Or in Tennessee. How about a

1200
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: great Tennessee and Dolly Parton. I think these are good

1201
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: ideas in general, just to be like replace them with

1202
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: people the state is proud of. But it's like not

1203
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: with like not just like non problematic white people. Like

1204
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: that feels like like not not quite. I don't know.

1205
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: I think, look, it's some America, some Americans. It's gonna

1206
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: it takes a minute. They just some people just got

1207
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: to the point that slavery bad, okay unfortunately. Uh and

1208
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: that was that already took some some hundred years. But

1209
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: now it's like we'll put him another white person so

1210
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: white people don't get mad that white person who is nice. Yeah,

1211
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: I was just I was just reading, like casually, I'm

1212
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: like trying to find out like who some of like

1213
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, Nashville's like great black like people are from

1214
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: history Black Tennesseeans, and there's so many, so many stories

1215
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: that you could include that are so amazing. There's one

1216
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: about this slave named Jack Makin And if you're any

1217
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: place named Makin is named after the slave owning flat

1218
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: family um and his master. The man who owned him

1219
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: saw that this slave had a knack for healing people

1220
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: and treating like wounds and helped like just as like

1221
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: a healer a doctor, to the point where this white

1222
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: man had him practice on white people, and white people

1223
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, this Jack guy really is

1224
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: able to like he's he's got his skill, but this

1225
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: but when they got busted, this date was like, slaves

1226
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: can't practice anything, Like that's impossible. No, no, no, they're

1227
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 1: not human, Like shame on your your owner, blah blah blah.

1228
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: The owner went across the state to try and you know,

1229
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: skirt the authorities to allow this man to practice more

1230
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of the white patients that he was

1231
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: seeing like we're signing petitions to try and get the

1232
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: state to allow him to practice medicine because they even

1233
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: saw objectively like this guy has he's doing something that

1234
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: is beneficial to us, um and like and down to

1235
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: the point where he's like listed in Nashville's earliest records

1236
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: as one of the first doctors, but it just said

1237
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: Dr Jack because he didn't have a last name, because

1238
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: he was owned, he was not a human, so he

1239
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: was just listed as doctor Jack. And it's just a

1240
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: really you know, that's that's an interesting story from our

1241
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: history because we don't we don't look I think this

1242
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: is another opportunity for many people to look at the

1243
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: history of their own cities too, because there's a lot

1244
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: of great things have been done. But there's a reason

1245
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: why certain names are elevated and others are you know,

1246
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: suppressed um or you know, any number of like you know,

1247
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: why aren't there more statues? We need more like I

1248
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: to b well statues. We need more statues of of

1249
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: like radical black thinkers who are putting the work down

1250
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: that hopefully will be a roadmap to this new sense

1251
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: of liberation a lot of people are moving towards. But

1252
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know anything about Dr Jack.

1253
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: That's didn't either. That was merely me just being like,

1254
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: who were some notable black Tennessee in's in history. There's

1255
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: another man named Alfonso Sumner who started one of the

1256
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: first black schools in Nashville before the Civil War. Because

1257
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: trying to educate black people, but that was illegal, so

1258
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: he was chased out and he went ended up going

1259
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. Then this another man named Daniel Watkins, started

1260
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: black schools in Nashville, to the point where, like in

1261
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: eighteen fifties something up to of black people in Tennessee

1262
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: were literate because of schools like this, because they were

1263
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 1: they were illegally educating themselves. Because ignorance is the way

1264
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: people are kept down. And I think that's the thing

1265
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 1: that people learned very early on. These are the kinds

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Speaker 1: of stories I feel like people would talk about more, too,

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Speaker 1: because there's so much I don't know, there's just so

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Speaker 1: much uh substance uh there too, not to say. Look,

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Speaker 1: I stand Dolly part Okay, don't get me wrong about

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Speaker 1: no Dolly. But if we're if we're having an if

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Speaker 1: we're having a conversation about racial reckoning in this country

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Speaker 1: and taking down statues of KKK Grand Wizards, then I

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Speaker 1: think what you'd want to do is someone that was

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Speaker 1: diametrically opposed to that to now stand on that space,

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Speaker 1: because that would be something that would be some at

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Speaker 1: least some small form of like a reclamation. And Dolly

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Speaker 1: Parton has the greatest monument you can have, which is Dollywood.

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Speaker 1: It's an excellent dough It's great. Yeah, if if this

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Speaker 1: could be reframed kind of as an opportunity not to

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Speaker 1: just replace um statues of racist oppressors with just people

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Speaker 1: who aren't racist opressors, but as an actual educational opportunity

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Speaker 1: of if you know, if these statues are going up

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Speaker 1: where you live, you could you stand a chance to

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Speaker 1: learn about someone you may not have known about at all,

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Speaker 1: And like, yeah, the opportunity is there, so don't there

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no use in making a lateral move. No,

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Speaker 1: that's why I think why, especially unfortunately, to say that

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Speaker 1: we're no longer waiting to delay equality is is going

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Speaker 1: to begin being painted as a radical stance because I think,

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Speaker 1: like most people, right, incremental change is not helpful, especially

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Speaker 1: when we are sober and clear eyed enough to diagnose

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Speaker 1: the problem. If we can see the problem, then we

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Speaker 1: have a responsibility to solve the problem. There's just no,

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Speaker 1: there's just no way around that. And I just don't

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Speaker 1: even understand rhetorically how you could say, like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: know that racism is the problem, but let's deal with

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Speaker 1: this other stuff on the way there. It's like you

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Speaker 1: just said, okay, well yeah, especially like people are getting told, oh,

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Speaker 1: you should have done the legal way of removing the statue.

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Speaker 1: But then when you just look it up in a

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Speaker 1: lot of cases, it turns out people try like that

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Speaker 1: statue in Bristol, England of a famous slave trader, like

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Speaker 1: people have been trying the legal way for a long

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Speaker 1: long time in the city, just stone walled at and

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Speaker 1: so then they tore it down, like like it's not

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Speaker 1: just situations where people are up and up ending it,

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Speaker 1: like they tried other ways to right. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's why. Also, like voting is only part of this

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Speaker 1: new way of getting changed, because when people put feet

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Speaker 1: put their feet on the street, look how much Look

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Speaker 1: how many things changed because of that, because people know

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Speaker 1: voting is too nebulous. They're they're telling up numbers on

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Speaker 1: a spreadsheet at the end of the night on that Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: That's how that's how a lot of apologies if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're lucky, yeah right, yeah exactly, assuming that we

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Speaker 1: even have that basic you know, right met then uh,

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Speaker 1: but after when you see millions of people in the street,

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Speaker 1: that uh basically signals the thing to people that there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who care so much they're going

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Speaker 1: out uh anyway, But we'll see because I'm part of

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Speaker 1: me is still like skeptical that, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: just the nature of how this country has tried to

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Speaker 1: resolve issues with racism, that this could be another moment

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Speaker 1: where that everybody's foot goes off the gas um and

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Speaker 1: like it was, it happened to be a perfect storm

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Speaker 1: of time to focus because of a pandemic and things

1327
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Speaker 1: like that. But we'll know when sports are fully back

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Speaker 1: up and all these other things if we're still willing

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Speaker 1: to have these conversations and if people are not willing

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Speaker 1: and you were listening to this show, we have a

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Speaker 1: responsibility to make sure people do keep talking about this

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Speaker 1: because you know, we it seemed like most people were

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Speaker 1: on the same page unless it was performative anyway, how

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Speaker 1: enwoldgement isn't a solution, it's acknowledgement. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for stopping by Schmidt A thank you guys. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? And what's to tweet you? Like? Um,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'll pull up the tweet here. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on the internet. I'm at Alex Metty on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and at Alex Smithstagram on Instagram, and I also

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Speaker 1: have links there for a like little newsletter. It's tiny

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Speaker 1: letter dot com slash Alex Meddy next show and you

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Speaker 1: can find what I'm doing next by just sign up

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Speaker 1: on important things and I'll let you know when the

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Speaker 1: time comes what I'm doing next. Uh. And I'm also

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Speaker 1: I got to guess on a great show called The

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Speaker 1: dork Forest, hosted by Jackie Cain, who's a nice, nice

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Speaker 1: and great and really funny. What's do too? It's a

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Speaker 1: show where, uh, you get to talk a whole lot

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Speaker 1: about something you're particularly dorky about. So I got to

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Speaker 1: talk about Grover Cleveland and also talk about an abolitionist

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Speaker 1: named Benjamin Leigh and felt great like I could I

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Speaker 1: could talk about history until my head falls off. So

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Speaker 1: that was really nice. It was a good time. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: challenge accepted. If you guys want to see the live

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Speaker 1: stream where Alex's head comes off so much, drop a dollar. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's ore a tweet that you like. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: this is from Joel Stein, who's a writer and uh

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Speaker 1: and does comedy and the tweet is as the world

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Speaker 1: embraces authoritarian personality cults, one of the greatest strengths of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is that no one is excited about him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no one is excited about him. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of those. It's gonna be great. It's like funny

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Speaker 1: though too, and like people are like being like, oh,

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Speaker 1: look Trump can't even like drink that water and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Joe Biden said he was gonna beat Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden in the general election. Uh, jammy jam Yammi Yamboni, Zamboni, Zamboni.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you? What's tweet you like? Ah?

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter at Jamie Loftist. Help

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Speaker 1: if you're so inclined. Um, but you know, keep talking

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Speaker 1: to your family's, keep reading, keep doing ship, don't take

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Speaker 1: your foot off the guests. I'll recommend a jabookie tweet.

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Speaker 1: There's not a bad one in exists dans Um. His

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Speaker 1: tweet is white people in media be like. Self care

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Speaker 1: is so important to avoid burnout in these times. For example,

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Speaker 1: I just found out yesterday that black people are human

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Speaker 1: and I immediately needed a nap hard truly, because he's

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Speaker 1: PlayStation network, um. Also other podcast for twenty fiance talk

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Speaker 1: about that trash fire d fiance. Some tweets I like,

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Speaker 1: oh typical. First one from at Reductress is that nice white,

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Speaker 1: smiling woman in a hoodie saying my ally ship might

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Speaker 1: not be perfect, but it certainly isn't helpful either. Please

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Speaker 1: Onion at the Onion City enters phase four of pretending

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Speaker 1: coronavirus over because that's really what some places really look like.

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Speaker 1: And also the the last one is from Nick Estes

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Speaker 1: Nick Underscore w Underscore Estes says historian here, tearing down

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Speaker 1: a statue is not a racing history. Putting up a

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Speaker 1: statue on land whose original caretakers you can't name is yeah?

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Speaker 1: True on those facts for a bit there. Yes, The

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Speaker 1: original stealing for music. All right, I guess we're gonna

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Speaker 1: write on that. I guess we're all right. Well, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We'll see here. Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll see y'all in a little bit later today

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Speaker 1: for some trending. Uh, take care of ourselves. Please take

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Speaker 1: and please be kind to each other. All right, we

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Speaker 1: will take care and we'll see them morow or later.

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