Speaker 1: Is exhibit mega. I think, but probably like old black
Speaker 1: rappers who like aren't allowed rappers have gone full mega. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not full you know. Well, but
Speaker 1: you also then find out how like eighty percent of night,
Speaker 1: no fucking one hundred percent of the people that show
Speaker 1: up on stage have cases that they're trying to fucking
Speaker 1: But it's like a amptive move right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not worried about tax policy quite as much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're.
Speaker 3: Only to the degree that they're political only worry about
Speaker 3: tax policy, right, Okay, that would be my guess even then,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 2: Likely they're not in the right bracket, probably would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wear and they disliked it because exhibit had he
Speaker 1: had a weed brand that went fucking south.
Speaker 2: Well, that's not his brand. He's an alcoholic, I know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he should have done.
Speaker 1: I could drink a whole hen. Yeah, he should have
Speaker 1: just a problem. But I call it a gift should.
Speaker 2: Exhibit exhibit now it's pronounced jiff.
Speaker 4: Don't call it a gift, said, we make the cotton shift. Okay, sir, Hello.
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Speaker 1: our favorite guests, hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer
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Speaker 1: him from the Yoh is this racist podcast? It's Andrew T.
Speaker 1: We takes from Andrew T. Everyone should disagree.
Speaker 3: Look at the world and the seven sees this guy
Speaker 3: here really knows nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah hell yeah, but did you write that? Wait?
Speaker 3: I yeah, I gotta say I listened much love to
Speaker 3: the Discord, the Beverage T and the T one thousand.
Speaker 3: I just I would just this is a polite ask.
Speaker 3: Can we move past those.
Speaker 2: We're trying to move that part, move past that part
Speaker 2: of his career. Yeah, it was a Roman salute. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew, it's great to have you here. I was
Speaker 1: going to be worried if they were coming for you
Speaker 1: like that in the discord. But no, that's me. That's me.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know y'all should not listen
Speaker 1: to never have him back on the podcast. What I'm
Speaker 1: fun to have around?
Speaker 3: But I am dumb. The thing that you're going to record.
Speaker 1: I am dumb. Absolutely I should add that to my
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Speaker 1: he had his like legs out to the side, like
Speaker 1: for people who are only listening or haven't seen the video, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was squared up.
Speaker 2: He was squared up with his arms up like he's fighting,
Speaker 2: but then his legs were out to the side like Yosemite.
Speaker 1: Sam like, yeah, you know what, let's just let's just
Speaker 1: memorialize this in the show, just just quickly, because the
Speaker 1: viewers of the show, for the video viewers, this was
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, because he obviously he was in the news
Speaker 1: because he's fucking you know, at the White House or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then I remember I saw this headbite about his
Speaker 1: new girl group, so this is crazy at.
Speaker 2: The White House talking about how Irish people aren't racist enough.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I love when motherfuckers that ship.
Speaker 1: They don't let they don't let the people talk like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is it. Don't say ship not to give notes.
Speaker 1: I listen. Put the beat of their first single underneath this.
Speaker 3: Sure fucking let them like do anything musical at all
Speaker 3: and do another take where he gets four adjectives.
Speaker 1: That's it, right, right right, beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous. They offer
Speaker 1: him four adjectives, just on big cards spelling odious, Wait, odious, connor, Connor, great, great, great,
Speaker 1: Let's try another one. Let's just try to get the
Speaker 1: lines this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think that
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah anyway, sorry, I started to just throw
Speaker 1: that in before you even start the show, but it
Speaker 1: was him flexing at somebody who was asking him to
Speaker 1: do another take. You better.
Speaker 3: Really, the work ethic of the social media generation is
Speaker 3: it's so it's so like skewed because half of them
Speaker 3: really like the fucking like Big Chocolate Chip Chunk kid
Speaker 3: does like twenty takes, but like just.
Speaker 6: Gott to know the Big Chocolate Chip Chunk, the Costco
Speaker 6: family with him, and yeah, yeah I do know them.
Speaker 3: You don't want to say the one, Yeah, truly, just
Speaker 3: like the one, like behind the Scenes one was like okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, like you'll just get a little more energy
Speaker 3: in this one, and it was just like what the
Speaker 3: fuck the dad turned Ike.
Speaker 1: Turner or something. Yeah, they did it behind the scenes
Speaker 1: and they're multiple times over and over over. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't get really angry, but like you can tell
Speaker 1: that it's like this this is the one release, so like.
Speaker 3: Like if this is the funnest version of behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: they could get muster. Yeah, it is truly like whatever
Speaker 3: the funck happens behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: Is Your third year was a little fucked up on
Speaker 2: that one, Like I didn't believe that you were actually
Speaker 2: saying boom on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wid Yeah, all right, well we're gonna kind of
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about this generation and all that's wrong with them
Speaker 1: and trace it back to us giving up on giving shit.
Speaker 1: If people sold out Joe Exotic, we want to check
Speaker 1: in with Joe Zatah your anniversary of us all learning
Speaker 1: who Joe Exotic is. We'll talk about that. We'll check
Speaker 1: in with Tesla. We'll check in with this kind of
Speaker 1: backlash we're seeing to the double sellout is what it's
Speaker 1: being called. People who sell out to achieve success and
Speaker 1: then continue to just chase monetary success. I think it's
Speaker 1: called insatiable greed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, it's called it's a technical term.
Speaker 3: Continuing the thing you are already doing because it was
Speaker 3: patently evident who you were always and we.
Speaker 1: Might even check it. Netflix is make it a Kujo movie.
Speaker 1: So we want to kind of get an idea of
Speaker 1: what that's going to be like. All of that plenty more,
Speaker 1: But first, Andrew T, we do like to ask our guess,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about
Speaker 1: who you are? All right, get ready, motherfuckers?
Speaker 3: So this is no, this is probably there's a reasonable
Speaker 3: chance this has already been one of my search histories.
Speaker 3: But I'll do it again if I haven't, but maybe not.
Speaker 3: I made a fucking caved and made a viral ish recipe.
Speaker 3: I made tempora innoki mushrooms, which were billed as this
Speaker 3: is like fucking vegan chicken vegan like fried chicken tenders
Speaker 3: or whatever. But you take an oak mushrooms such you're
Speaker 3: in a video episode. You take then ooki mushrooms, cut
Speaker 3: the little roots off, and you have a bundle of
Speaker 3: mushrooms that grow long ways, and you cut the bundles
Speaker 3: into like I don't know, call it like half a
Speaker 3: center meter, maybe three quarters or of a centimeter like slices,
Speaker 3: and you batter those motherfuckers. So the the enoki mushrooms
Speaker 3: are individually little thin mushrooms when they come become like
Speaker 3: strands of if you really are desperate for it. Fake
Speaker 3: chickens are just fine on their own.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we don't have to Yeah, fair lovely, you
Speaker 1: didn't need to call it that. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Throw a little MSG into the recipe I found. It's
Speaker 3: you know, MBD.
Speaker 1: But imagine though, as you're biting into them, imagine a
Speaker 1: chicken dying. Yeah, you just like, you know, like get
Speaker 1: that cruel. You feel like you're getting the power of
Speaker 1: another animal.
Speaker 3: You know, I got the power of I don't know,
Speaker 3: probably eighty five mushrooms that one bite, though, So wow,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of a lot of power there.
Speaker 3: So the the thing I'm pretty sure there's a reasonable
Speaker 3: chance I've already said, was what my search history is,
Speaker 3: how do I get rid of all this fucking deep
Speaker 3: fry oil?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Which just throw it at Tesla? Right, yeah.
Speaker 3: I probably The probably sort of distressing thing is by
Speaker 3: the time i'd fried my batch of mushrooms, I made
Speaker 3: several batches, and I deepried it a little.
Speaker 1: In another thing, why am I being coy shrimp fitters?
Speaker 1: Don't be YINGX escapades?
Speaker 3: There wasn't that much oil left, so I just kind
Speaker 3: of like soaked it up with a paper towel and
Speaker 3: put it into a grocery bag and noted that up
Speaker 3: garbage candidate.
Speaker 1: I think we'll allow that, all right, man, I just
Speaker 1: like I said, I just throw it out my window.
Speaker 1: So whatever, this hippie shit you're doing, like, fine to
Speaker 1: each their own, but I don't need I just go
Speaker 1: right down the drain, man, right down the kitchen, down
Speaker 1: the storm drain.
Speaker 2: It's actually the only thing we put in the kitchen
Speaker 2: saying because for some reason it's stopped draining water.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you fill them up with water balloons and
Speaker 1: you throw them in the La River. Oh yeah, it.
Speaker 3: I honestly can't be worse. There's no EPA monitoring of
Speaker 3: it anymore.
Speaker 1: So I have people from out of town visiting us,
Speaker 1: and we like, like, the part of like the value
Speaker 1: I'm in is right by the La River. So we
Speaker 1: walked by it and we're like, and the famous La
Speaker 1: River And they're like, wait seriously, and I'm like, yep,
Speaker 1: that's the I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3: For real, for real, especially because I'm sure municipalities are
Speaker 3: going to start having to generate their own revenue. LA
Speaker 3: really needs to have a for I don't know, five
Speaker 3: hundred dollars, one thousand dollars, You and your friend can
Speaker 3: ride a motorcycle and a semi down the lad yeah,
Speaker 3: or off the bridge, right, you can do that one.
Speaker 3: Or the drag race from Greece that also happened right
Speaker 3: there downtown. Yeah, any iconic l A River race.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just just killed Keu Reeves in the rush
Speaker 2: video back when that was my first celebrity crush or
Speaker 2: every every Paul Abdul music video drop was an event
Speaker 2: in in my little perverted.
Speaker 1: She had the chest of the cheetah. That was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I remember just being a kid like that's
Speaker 1: the Cheetoh cat and they're like, no, that's true, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it is, that's Stef the Cheeto cat.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 1: It was actually problematic that you can't tell them apart hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't find me cheetahs.
Speaker 2: I feel like I interrupted you, Andrew, what are you
Speaker 2: gonna say?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: Remember I was speaking of Tesla's Yeah did you see
Speaker 3: you see where someone like on YouTube, so who knows
Speaker 3: how realist was did like a wiley coyote style like.
Speaker 1: Mark Rober It was Mark, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was
Speaker 1: just referencing that video like that was the guy who
Speaker 1: he used to work at NASA as a fucking engineer,
Speaker 1: and he's like, cameras fucking suck lydar is way better
Speaker 1: at like orienting, Like if you're trying to actually do
Speaker 1: some full self drive shit, lidar is better. And he's like,
Speaker 1: let me prove it. He painted a wiley coyote like
Speaker 1: or a road runner esque like sort of vista against
Speaker 1: the road and drove a car with lidar at it
Speaker 1: and it stopped because there's like there's some ship in
Speaker 1: front of it. But then the tesla was just like
Speaker 1: not all good blue right fucking through the thing? Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: really bad. And that's the thing where people are like
Speaker 1: they're trying to fucking they're trying to take the price.
Speaker 1: This is a a coordinated effort to what demonstrate what
Speaker 1: the car is? Yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: Just this weird thing where like the Blick has this
Speaker 2: shared natural aversion to Nazis is weird, weird, not shared,
Speaker 2: not shared enough to not shared widely enough. But they're
Speaker 2: they're now acting like that is a foreign idea that
Speaker 2: they can't understand where it came from.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. People's grandfathers didn't suffer tremendous PTSD
Speaker 1: for you to go just loving the Nazis again.
Speaker 3: Okay, well some of them did.
Speaker 1: So it turns out, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: Andrew all right? Underrated? Uh? Game Night? The movie?
Speaker 3: You know pretty clearly from my vibe and demeanor. I'm
Speaker 3: a dude who considers himself above Game Night. I think
Speaker 3: that ship is for nerve movie and noways pretty good though,
Speaker 3: actually that's game night going and playing boring. But I
Speaker 3: went to a very well organized game night, and I
Speaker 3: will admit I had a ton of fun. What'd you play?
Speaker 1: Uh? The one that I really stuck out to me?
Speaker 3: It was a game called Linky, which is essentially it's
Speaker 3: my favorite round from trivia night, which is the thing
Speaker 3: that I do. But it was five trivia questions. But
Speaker 3: the act, the the point was not to get the
Speaker 3: trivia question. It was to get the thing that the
Speaker 3: answers all had in common. Oh and it was so
Speaker 3: fun for me specifically. And I will just say.
Speaker 1: That, so this was some brainy ship rather than board
Speaker 1: game game night. Yeah, I suppose that's true.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't really love just like a fucking like,
Speaker 3: I don't know anything with too much chance. I did
Speaker 3: also play Game of Thrones monopoly with an eleven year
Speaker 3: old the other day, and if I may, that ship
Speaker 3: was the absolute worst experience of So sorry, it was
Speaker 3: very difficult.
Speaker 1: I mean, it got worse, got worse. To you said,
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones Monopoly. We are fucking in hell right now.
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones Monopoly, it's some regular monopoly, bad enough,
Speaker 3: I'll though, none of you guys have ever played it correctly?
Speaker 3: And the correct version actually at least is a game
Speaker 3: of sorts.
Speaker 1: Did you know this?
Speaker 3: Basically, every time you someone lands on something, if they
Speaker 3: don't buy it, you have to go to an auction.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, And the auction mechanic actually turns it into
Speaker 3: a real game because it's.
Speaker 1: Like everybody has an opportunity to yeah, and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, you're really gonna let this motherfucker have you know,
Speaker 3: even a property you don't like that much for a dollar,
Speaker 3: I'll do too, and then you know whatever, But doesn't
Speaker 3: that just speed up the way.
Speaker 2: In which the rich get richer and fuck everybody over it?
Speaker 2: Make it worse?
Speaker 3: It can, But if you do well sort of no,
Speaker 3: because when you're early enough, everyone's like bankroll is about
Speaker 3: the same, so you can, like you know, or you
Speaker 3: can force someone into making a bad decision, bad decision,
Speaker 3: you know, if someone is trying to throw their weight around.
Speaker 3: But but you know, the whole game is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it is a snowball, But is.
Speaker 1: That the is that the version you played with? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, not only that game of throws monopoly is
Speaker 3: regular monopoly. We weren't playing with auctions, but also Game
Speaker 3: of Thrones Monopoly has a bunch of other like backstabby Game.
Speaker 1: Of Thrones chance cards, like.
Speaker 3: Like some steal all your opponent's monopolies kind of ship
Speaker 3: cut on that penis off.
Speaker 1: Yeah really. Also, it just it was fun.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that graphic, but it for sure was too
Speaker 3: graphic for e because one of.
Speaker 1: The one of the pieces is beyond severed penis.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It comes with a little tiny rope that you put
Speaker 3: around the neck of the other characters. It's a bit much. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a bit much. But the Pewter you know, what's
Speaker 3: three D printing? You can do anything these Yeah, what
Speaker 3: is something Andrew you thinks overrated?
Speaker 1: All right? The embarrassment you feel from accidentally facetiming the
Speaker 1: whole group chat. Oh tell you what.
Speaker 3: Yeah that someone did that in a group chat the
Speaker 3: other day and not everyone picked up, but everyone who
Speaker 3: picked up genuinely it was like, this is really nice
Speaker 3: to just have a random eight minute conversation with you fools.
Speaker 2: And is it with the person like did the person
Speaker 2: realize at a certain.
Speaker 3: Point, yeah, but they're like, oh my god, I'm so
Speaker 3: sorry this was an accident.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Like we're on the call, you might
Speaker 1: as well you have my attention.
Speaker 3: What's Yeah, it was legitimately like a great little catch up.
Speaker 3: It's the sort of thing you know, I guess we
Speaker 3: don't do that often. But also the FaceTime of it
Speaker 3: makes it because it could be in this case it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But it could be people from all over right just
Speaker 1: fucking do it.
Speaker 3: Also, though I've never done it, I feel like it
Speaker 3: should be harder to do than it is, because it's
Speaker 3: it's like I've gotten like butt dial facetimes more times
Speaker 3: than physical like from a UI design perspective, should be possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, does this happen more than traditional butt dials like
Speaker 1: on a as a phone call? I feel like I
Speaker 1: get win were like missed FaceTime, So I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: no way they were trying. Yeah, it's like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this?
Speaker 2: They're just trying to get their FaceTime numbers up to
Speaker 2: like prove that like all the you know, work and
Speaker 2: money they sunk into it was worth it, and so
Speaker 2: they just like make it easy to do.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. Shouldn't be possible. Shouldn't be possible anyway?
Speaker 6: Yeah, go face accidentally FaceTime the whole group play the
Speaker 6: Jazz board game.
Speaker 1: Play the Jaws board game. That was actually fun. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just fun. And I'm like you, Andrew, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do some game night.
Speaker 1: And someone played the Jaws game and I got the
Speaker 1: way I got into that ship because at the end,
Speaker 1: someone's the sharks for me, and then that is what
Speaker 1: role you play. And then you then you be doing
Speaker 1: attacks like on different beaches and you're trying to get
Speaker 1: ahead of the sharkets. It's I do like four.
Speaker 3: Games where one person is the villain. Yeah, And there's
Speaker 3: a lot of like.
Speaker 1: Head game like if you like game theory kind of thing,
Speaker 1: like if you want to play Fucked Up, you can. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Also Angels angel City is back.
Speaker 3: We're off to a one one disappointing home home opener.
Speaker 3: So Angel City's disappointing and frustrating. So as usual to Sandy,
Speaker 3: when the person who was the shark did something smart,
Speaker 3: did you say, she's very either very smart or very stupid.
Speaker 3: She's gone under the boat. No, I fucked up, and
Speaker 3: I go clever girl smiles.
Speaker 1: Longer, and I go like Jurassic Park, and I pretend
Speaker 1: I'm pulling back the stock of my Sposh twelve shotgun
Speaker 1: like you was clever.
Speaker 3: There must be a Jurassic Park game, right, you guys
Speaker 3: keep talking.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is over here. You guys keep talking
Speaker 2: for the rest of the episode storyboarding the dress.
Speaker 1: Every time I talk, You're like, how is there not
Speaker 1: a Jurassic Park board game?
Speaker 3: I guess there's a bunch crazy one is the one
Speaker 3: from ninety three, which I don't even want to know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sorry. We were at a play date the other
Speaker 1: day and the kids kept shooting each other with nerves
Speaker 1: and like getting you know, there there were some nerf
Speaker 1: cannons like out and so I and they kept like
Speaker 1: shooting and like into a place where they were getting lost,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, here.
Speaker 2: You guys, like, I'll be. You guys just like combining
Speaker 2: me to hunt me, and I'll be. And that was
Speaker 2: like the most thrilling five minutes of my week. Was
Speaker 2: like running away from a bunch of like, you know,
Speaker 2: five to eight year olds with nerve cannons, just trying
Speaker 2: not to get shot.
Speaker 1: Highly recommended. Were you giving them jukes and stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was ju I trying to break their ankles, but
Speaker 2: I can't break it. Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 1: Kids are too way too flexible. They will not have
Speaker 1: like soft tissue injuries like adults. Nah. And they also
Speaker 1: will not respect when I'm like all right, all right,
Speaker 1: this one's over. They came up and just just give
Speaker 1: me a second from Adobe. You fully you fully dangerous,
Speaker 1: gamed yourself dangerous game myself and for thrills just to
Speaker 1: see just live. Yeah, just don't hurt that much. So
Speaker 1: you said that much, I like barely cried. That's cool.
Speaker 1: That all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the news. We'll be right back. And
Speaker 1: we're back. We're back. And it has been a clean
Speaker 1: five years tomorrow. Yeah, since Tiger King dropped on all
Speaker 1: our asses and we were stuck inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was this was this like officially makes it
Speaker 2: real to me that it's been five years since the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks, Rudy Gobaar Day, it's really this one. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: this is that. That's when we were like so bored
Speaker 2: that we were just like this isn't this is an
Speaker 2: instant classic, you guys.
Speaker 1: This is great. I remember when we saw the trailer
Speaker 1: pre lockdown and we were all in the office. You're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? And then here we are.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Joe Exotic is I think probably inspired by
Speaker 1: all the lawlessness that is happening under Trump at the moment,
Speaker 1: and figured maybe it's this time that I'll get a
Speaker 1: pardon from Donald Trump, because he did try during Trump's
Speaker 1: last term and he was so convinced he was going
Speaker 1: to get when this motherfucker hired a limousine to wait
Speaker 1: outside of the prison to whisk him away and it
Speaker 1: did not happen. Sorry, Joe Exotic, it did not happen
Speaker 1: this time, though, he is asking that both he and
Speaker 1: his husband get pardons. So this is.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be somebody that he met in prison, prison
Speaker 2: in prison, yea yeah. I was like, dude, I don't
Speaker 2: recognize this person.
Speaker 3: No, no, this is new. I don't remember Jack shit
Speaker 3: from that series. Like for me either, I just remember him.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what he what is he even
Speaker 1: seeking a pardon from? Like that's right, he tried to
Speaker 1: hire someone to kill Carol Basket and that's why he
Speaker 1: said and including like an undercover or some shit.
Speaker 2: And I feel like most people were like, I mean,
Speaker 2: she was kind of annoying, Yeah, because when you watch it,
Speaker 2: you're like, she was kind of on board.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember there were people being like, well she killed
Speaker 1: her husband, you know. Yeah, so yeah, he was just
Speaker 1: going to Costa Rica. But anyway, this is like a
Speaker 1: post he did like last year, said, meet Jorge Marquez.
Speaker 1: He is thirty three. He is an amazing he is wait,
Speaker 1: he is, he is so amazing, and he is from Mexico.
Speaker 1: Now the question of getting married in prison and getting
Speaker 1: him asylum or we be leaving America when we both
Speaker 1: get out. I'm reading it as written. Yeah yeah, sick,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Either way, I wish I would have met
Speaker 1: him long ago. So that's like his like official post
Speaker 1: that he was just hard launching the relationship. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then I guess Joe now thinks he has an angle
Speaker 1: that will appeal to Trump and the like xenophobic climate,
Speaker 1: because now this is his new pitch. He with a
Speaker 1: picture of them happily together, yes and jungle bundle background.
Speaker 1: You can it might be on ped said he said.
Speaker 1: Quote this is from him on Twitter. Quote This motherfucker's
Speaker 1: playing for paying for a blue check too. Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: Well you could deport him at some point. But if
Speaker 1: you let me go, we'll both go to Mexico, which
Speaker 1: will save you the deporting him and allow you to
Speaker 1: take care of me. Huh, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: No matter what happens, he's my husband and will never
Speaker 1: abandon each other. This bond is that strong. And it's
Speaker 1: like you're not getting out, Joe.
Speaker 2: This bond is that strong. By the way, this tweet
Speaker 2: opened with the words, you could deport him at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is a butt jack. But if you
Speaker 1: let me go, we'll both go to Mexico. I'll go
Speaker 1: to Mexico.
Speaker 2: Too, and you can uh what, I don't know, you
Speaker 2: and him and allow you to take care of me.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and maybe the save him the cost
Speaker 1: of taking care of another American. I got it, as
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I think it's just like taking care of as in
Speaker 3: because he's still asking for a pardon, right right. So
Speaker 3: you take care of me, you take care of me,
Speaker 3: I take care.
Speaker 6: Of you, awarding the love of my life.
Speaker 1: I take care of me, and and we're here. We're
Speaker 1: in love. So Joe, you know, it's it's a long road, man,
Speaker 1: It's a long road, you know, keep your head up,
Speaker 1: keep that chin up.
Speaker 3: I mean truly, given that I haven't thought of this
Speaker 3: dude for like four years and eleven months in two weeks,
Speaker 3: I'm this is surprising. I'm genuinely surprised by what about
Speaker 3: like Jo that that that, yeah, I get not that
Speaker 3: he found love, I suppose, but like that he this
Speaker 3: whole scheme that he's pitching.
Speaker 1: I don't know all event I'm just like, I could
Speaker 1: not have guessed you.
Speaker 2: Might need you might be due for a rewatch, because
Speaker 2: this is actually the least surprising thing I've based on
Speaker 2: my knowledge of Joe Exotic, that he found a younger
Speaker 2: maker man. Yeah, that he's like in a relationship and
Speaker 2: like trying to trying some scheme that is too ambitious
Speaker 2: and unrealistic to actually work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just looking because I was looking
Speaker 1: at the little tag on this photo of him and
Speaker 1: his husband or fiance and his Joe exoticofficial dot com.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the website this had, this place
Speaker 1: has if this is his website. Joe Exotic Official Updates
Speaker 1: everything new, FBI misconduct found, Volunteers needed, Joe Exotic, a
Speaker 1: Joe Exotic, the Tiger King has finally reacent his very
Speaker 1: own clone that is available for personalized conversations and more.
Speaker 1: I know this ship ain't yo, damn Son, look at
Speaker 1: you please? Oh wow, okay, all right, you know I
Speaker 1: didn't see that one coming. Oh it's video chat, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna be interacting with this man who has been
Speaker 1: shot four times in the chest. Right, I thought those
Speaker 1: are tattoos. Joe Exotic is most likely the most famous
Speaker 1: all times. Of that might be Nelson Mandela. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it is. Who do you well? Who do you
Speaker 1: think you can?
Speaker 3: You can probably sext Ai Nelson Mandela too, though yeah
Speaker 3: Charles Manson though got more drip, though more swag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got reverse Mandel effect.
Speaker 1: I think Nelson Mandela is still alive.
Speaker 2: He never died as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. Well, yeah, there's v I possibilities. No, okay, anyway, Joe,
Speaker 1: God blessed. I don't think scroll down was that was?
Speaker 1: I wasn't expected as I was like, oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: could have predicted that. We do like to check in
Speaker 1: with the markets on this podcast, specifically, how's Tesla doing?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: I worried about my three Tesla's I feel people are
Speaker 2: like saying it's not cool to have them anymore.
Speaker 1: We'll believe you.
Speaker 7: It's going down.
Speaker 1: So it's been nine weeks have continued with else for
Speaker 1: Tesla and the stock prices falling fifty three percent. It
Speaker 1: final pre see Highland heard day heyday in December of that. Okay, look,
Speaker 1: this is what happened, nine straight weeks of the price
Speaker 1: going down. It was around December again the pre le hayar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was at its peak. Then something happened, man around
Speaker 1: Q one five, I'm sure what it was. But right now,
Speaker 1: just like in the last fucking two days, these are
Speaker 1: the fucking headlines around Tesla. Board memor are selling over
Speaker 1: one hundred million of their own stock. There are protests everywhere.
Speaker 1: People are setting fires at collision centers, centers, vandalizing the cars.
Speaker 1: The there's a thing that now that alleges that insurance
Speaker 1: prices are going up to cover Tesla's because like Hyundai's
Speaker 1: and like the USB like like hacked to like start
Speaker 1: a Hundai or whatever. Kiya the Kia boys shit, yeah,
Speaker 1: like and that caused insurance race to go up. They're
Speaker 1: saying the vandalism against Tesla is now causing insurance rates
Speaker 1: to also go up. We will see if that holds
Speaker 1: you guys. Stop it, yeah, stop it. Okay, this is.
Speaker 2: An eight time this is this is terrorism actually, I
Speaker 2: mean it is really terrorism. Actually when you think about it,
Speaker 2: it's terrorism because Tesla.
Speaker 1: Owners are terrorized.
Speaker 2: Yeahs is sad.
Speaker 1: Look at this is this is a fucking whoa shit,
Speaker 1: this is the fucking collision center. Someone said, oh, look man,
Speaker 1: it's not it. It is not popping. I mean the
Speaker 1: fire is, but not the ban and again batteries are popping.
Speaker 3: But also truly not one hundred percent clear that if
Speaker 3: that was that doesn't that art doesn't have to be arsen,
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be arsen.
Speaker 1: Those cars do burst into flames every once in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what is the outlet for that video?
Speaker 2: RJ just some dude named r J because I don't
Speaker 2: know it also did it did also say that resist
Speaker 2: with spray painted at the factory. But that feels like
Speaker 2: some ship that I don't know if that wasn't night
Speaker 2: does do itself, you know.
Speaker 1: Right right right, No, I mean this is definitely this
Speaker 1: absolutely happened like in Las Vegas. Like that's yeah, that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's a actual this is an actual news story. The
Speaker 1: other stuff. What happened? Guys? Come on, yeah, right, but
Speaker 1: yeah they say they, oh, maybe they did find a suspect. No,
Speaker 1: still on the loose, Still on the loose, loose, Yeah,
Speaker 1: our favorite phrase in this new world, still on.
Speaker 7: The loose down, don't go to a McDonald.
Speaker 1: But anyway, So now Elon is like, dude, he's posting
Speaker 1: like a kid in junior high school that just listened
Speaker 1: to a FI for the first time or some shit.
Speaker 1: He's like, my companies made great products that people love,
Speaker 1: and I've never physically hurt anyone, So why the hate
Speaker 1: and violence against me? Then later on, I am endlessly
Speaker 1: amused by the infinite indignities I suffer on the very
Speaker 1: platform that I own. Wow, fuck you and so much so. Somehow,
Speaker 1: so much of the media coverage, like we talk about
Speaker 1: it's just doing the thing they're shying away from describing
Speaker 1: him as a Nazi that is dismantling the government, like
Speaker 1: when that's quite literally what is happening. This isnt this
Speaker 1: from business a business insider in the market part that's
Speaker 1: sound of like he was. He's endlessly amused by that.
Speaker 1: We're good here, Yeah, such a word. I'm actually endlessly amused.
Speaker 1: This is funny, This is actually hilarious. I did read
Speaker 1: those meets out of sequence. The first one was I
Speaker 1: am endlessly amused. That was in February. The what did
Speaker 1: I do wrong? What do you guys? This last week?
Speaker 1: So we went from lolling about it to crying about it.
Speaker 1: It's actually hilarious to me. This is actually very fused, bro,
Speaker 1: Thank you for the free last he is that.
Speaker 3: I forget who did the original tweet, but like, just
Speaker 3: like anyone who uses the laugh crying emoji is the
Speaker 3: angriest person you've ever had, right, And I.
Speaker 2: Think it goes back like people who are just sprinkling
Speaker 2: loll constantly, like after saying something they're upset about and
Speaker 2: then well loll yeah, like literally literally loling over here.
Speaker 1: At the body. What you just said?
Speaker 2: That was insulting?
Speaker 3: Really, I've never heard anyone physically, I've never physically heard
Speaker 3: anyone like what a weird tell you are?
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I'm about to post something that is just
Speaker 2: like me complaining and like just sharing my feelings. But
Speaker 2: I do need to get legals eyes on this one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'm saying I've never heard anyone. Okay, Elan, So
Speaker 2: what you can say is you've never physically directly with your.
Speaker 1: Own bare hands. Yeah yeah, and your yeah, your negligence
Speaker 1: as a business owner has harmed many Yeah, and your
Speaker 1: direct actions as whatever the fuck this is. You know,
Speaker 1: like all those cars that somehow end up on fire
Speaker 1: that people are whatever and they crash whatever it is,
Speaker 1: what it is. But again the media descriptions business insider
Speaker 1: and they're like, what, there's like four reasons why this
Speaker 1: why the stock is going down? One they called this
Speaker 1: subheader distracted CEO. And then this is what this is
Speaker 1: like part of the paragraph quote. In large part, investors
Speaker 1: have blamed his growing role in the Trump administration, with
Speaker 1: Musk heading the efforts of the Department of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 1: He himself has noted great difficulty in dividing his attention
Speaker 1: between DOGE and as many companies. Okay, here's another one.
Speaker 1: This is from I think Barons it' said quote, but
Speaker 1: we say sales data to start the year. Have investors
Speaker 1: worried that Musk's political activities are turning off car Bykes
Speaker 1: his political activities.
Speaker 3: I genuinely so, it must really be that it's just that,
Speaker 3: like he's his distraction. It's not that he's distracted, Like
Speaker 3: obviously for a business, it would be better if he
Speaker 3: was the less actual attention must pays it's better.
Speaker 1: But it's that he's a bottleneck, right, Like you can't
Speaker 1: do shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, Like if if the competent people could simply
Speaker 3: operate without elon musk, that would be good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorite I bring
Speaker 1: it up a lot. But one of my favorite.
Speaker 2: Historical details I guess left out a lot is like
Speaker 2: one of the big reasons D Day was successful. We've
Speaker 2: been talking D Day, this is D Day talk, was
Speaker 2: that Hitler slept in until noon on D Day and
Speaker 2: everybody was so scared of him and like he was
Speaker 2: like such a micromanager that like they just like couldn't
Speaker 2: make a decision until he like woke up of.
Speaker 1: His own accord.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So yeah, that that's one of the small
Speaker 2: problems with authoritarian.
Speaker 1: Got to We've got to we're doubling up on that
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Right, there's no there's no amount of coke Musk can
Speaker 3: be on that doesn't eventually he's going to get the
Speaker 3: sleepies at some point.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or fully himself like one
Speaker 1: of these times holding up the chase.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, Like when they describe it, it sounds
Speaker 2: like they're talking about him just being spread too thin.
Speaker 1: They don't mention tooth hailing controversial, you know in the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, it's like, d I can bear it, I think,
Speaker 1: but it's just because it had it being like it's
Speaker 1: also like his his extreme views.
Speaker 2: Was what I saw, but it is like a thing
Speaker 2: where you're trying to judge people, like, you know, he's
Speaker 2: selling a product that is no longer selling well because
Speaker 2: of something happening with the public's opinion of him and
Speaker 2: their desire to be associated with him, even if they're
Speaker 2: not going to be like, you know, that was definitely
Speaker 2: and obviously somebody doing two aggressive Nazi salutes that burst
Speaker 2: forth from their soul in a way that was like
Speaker 2: almost like involuntary, uh. And a lot of people saw
Speaker 2: that shit because it was on like a national stage
Speaker 2: on inauguration that like even if you're just like a
Speaker 2: lot of people think he is a Nazi, uh, and
Speaker 2: that's got to be bad for sales figures, Like even
Speaker 2: the fact that they like, like I think they were
Speaker 2: saying that at first and now they're even like.
Speaker 1: Backing off of that. Yeah, yeah, which is I mean,
Speaker 1: because you look around the world, like in Europe, sales
Speaker 1: are tanking, and it's clear they have direct history interacting
Speaker 1: with Nazis in their countries, so they're like fuck in London,
Speaker 1: there's stuff like they people have been putting up these
Speaker 1: sort of like activist ads and like bus stops or
Speaker 1: it's like him in a Tesla like see highling as
Speaker 1: a zero to nineteen thirty nine and one point two
Speaker 1: this type shit and like on factories are doing all
Speaker 1: kinds of shit. But all that to say is like
Speaker 1: in Europe that's going down for that reason. In the
Speaker 1: US it's the same thing. But I think the only
Speaker 1: difference is China, where that was the biggest EV market
Speaker 1: in the world where he was getting crazy business. That
Speaker 1: whole thing is because he's completely seated ground to all
Speaker 1: these other companies that like actually offer different cars, and
Speaker 1: also the battery maker for Tesla's now like working with
Speaker 1: a competitor, and he's like, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: It probably is genuinely like the other thing. I would
Speaker 3: just guess again as a fucking idiot who knows nothing
Speaker 3: that like, even without all the Nazi shit, Like the
Speaker 3: Tesla market was pretty saturated. Anyone who's gonna buy said
Speaker 3: Tesla in America just has one. And I'm guessing he
Speaker 3: thought because it's like electric car, all the you know,
Speaker 3: liberal ish type folks. I think he genuinely thought he
Speaker 3: could open up a whole new Nazi market, like going
Speaker 3: far like yeah, right, but those people still aren't buying.
Speaker 1: Fucking But this is where like this dude is so insulated,
Speaker 1: is because he's around these magafreaks for a little bit
Speaker 1: and they're like gassing him up that he's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this this is a move, this is the wave, without
Speaker 1: understanding that culturally, like I said this before, the right
Speaker 1: wing has been trying to poison the well of evs
Speaker 1: for fucking ever and so. And also, like the truck,
Speaker 1: the cyber truck does not appeal to the American truck
Speaker 1: demographic because it just doesn't look like some hard work,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Gonna get thirty years in the future, some free Nazi
Speaker 3: business advice. Genuinely, I think a way to get up
Speaker 3: his Tesla sales to the Nazis he's like courting is
Speaker 3: to create a Tesla charger that runs on gasoline. You
Speaker 3: put it in your output le voltage, just a generator
Speaker 3: and you put yeah it's like a big ass generator,
Speaker 3: or just pour gasol into yeah.
Speaker 1: Or they're just gonna put s s bolts on the
Speaker 1: chargers yeah and just be like cowered by electricity. Wink
Speaker 1: wink wink. Yeah, good luck with all that. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: that Joe Rogan thing was, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: I do just wanna because I think I think this
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan clip where I think it was Elon's last
Speaker 2: appearance on Rogan from a few weeks ago, where he
Speaker 2: like has his AI say dirty words and is just
Speaker 2: like laugh like can't stop. Like he looks like me
Speaker 2: when I first heard they're all gonna laugh at you
Speaker 2: the right, you know, like the funniest thing I'd ever
Speaker 2: heard to that point in my life. He's just making
Speaker 2: his AI say like dirty things and laughing like until
Speaker 2: he's crying. Yeah, and even Joe Rogan is like, what like.
Speaker 1: Seems here is fucking spiking. Yeah, no, it's he's about
Speaker 1: to die, like an embarrassing, like an fringe based death.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is him. If he was.
Speaker 2: Wearing a bright yellow shirt, he would be sweating directly
Speaker 2: through that ship or.
Speaker 1: Just like in a stand up special where he was
Speaker 1: sweating through it because he was bombing the whole time.
Speaker 1: But anyway, this is this is that clip. No, she's
Speaker 1: just a pain in my ass? Yes, yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: can't stop laughing dude.
Speaker 8: No, oh, no, chaos, he's.
Speaker 1: Off stage that one way.
Speaker 3: The pity nod from Joe Rogan over a joke is
Speaker 3: like the saddest thing I've ever I do think.
Speaker 1: It's a good illustration of two double standards that we
Speaker 1: have that are like taking over our society. One is
Speaker 1: like the double standard of like how fun and cool
Speaker 1: AI seems to the person using it versus like the
Speaker 1: person viewing it from the outside. Are you serious?
Speaker 7: Dude?
Speaker 2: Did you just hear that he's just like yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that Russell Westbrook gift where he's like broke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: And then the double standard of obviously billionaires insulated for
Speaker 2: at least over a decade from anyone who has ever
Speaker 2: told them the truth just going full Tony soprano panic
Speaker 2: attack dinner where he's just like looking around like funny,
Speaker 2: was this guy not laughing?
Speaker 3: I need to rewrite it. But I wrote a short
Speaker 3: story for a friend of This show Molly Lambert's reading
Speaker 3: series a couple months ago, wherein it's an artist diary
Speaker 3: from the perspective of an AI that's only been told
Speaker 3: by the AI bros that it's a genius, it's the
Speaker 3: most amazing artist. And then when it finally gets into
Speaker 3: the world, it gets real feedback, it becomes suicidal.
Speaker 1: This happens like at every level, you know, like with entertainers.
Speaker 1: It's like that thing where like you can kill it
Speaker 1: in a boardroom, like and you kill it for people
Speaker 1: who aren't really connected to what you're doing, like this
Speaker 1: person will definitely help serve the purpose of our other thing.
Speaker 1: And then like then there's like the streets level where
Speaker 1: people fuck with it or like it or not, and
Speaker 1: so many people are so lost in the boardroom hyper
Speaker 1: they're like, why killed it in a room for all
Speaker 1: these rich, older, hyper wealthy white people, Like this is
Speaker 1: this must be the wave? And then you do some
Speaker 1: real shit and you see the response from people, and
Speaker 1: then you're like, why do people hate me? Well, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like when Elon went on stage with fucking
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle and like just start eating meme bo yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then like when it didn't land. I mean, it
Speaker 1: didn't land for other reasons, but it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you thought this is funny for real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a show, this is not the woke mob
Speaker 2: coming for you. Yeah, show, You're not funny.
Speaker 3: You thought reading from like a weird Nazi joke book
Speaker 3: was gonna crush like it does online.
Speaker 1: Weird dude?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, these people just listened to fifteen straight
Speaker 2: minutes of Dave Chappelle being like, I don't know, trans
Speaker 2: people kind of gross me out, and then he got
Speaker 2: up and still like bombs that hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a sad, sad state
Speaker 1: for Elon.
Speaker 2: But even like Rogan by the end of that is
Speaker 2: kind of like laughing to move it along. So I
Speaker 2: do feel like he comes out of that unmarked, you know,
Speaker 2: he comes out of that being like.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, guys, it was a sleigh. I regret to
Speaker 6: inform you that I fucking killed on Rogan again.
Speaker 1: Funny because like you know, Rogan will push back on
Speaker 1: some like comedian guests if he thinks this shit's not
Speaker 1: funny or just kind of like whatever, but like it's
Speaker 1: clear that he he he's like damn like Elon Musk
Speaker 1: is so powerful.
Speaker 3: I can't even like yeah, quote unquote after after, after
Speaker 3: Elon leaves, he's like, damn, dude. I mean, Elon's a
Speaker 3: genius in a lot of ways, but that sha wasn't funny.
Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly, Yeah, he still had for yeah, which
Speaker 2: is like, oh, yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: Like sick as dudes in Austin right now, like mentally,
Speaker 1: like mentally, seriously, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 7: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back and we're back, and.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to see a concept be discussed that I
Speaker 2: haven't seen seriously discussed since I was in middle school,
Speaker 2: and like profoundly annoying. And that is a serious debate
Speaker 2: about like selling out and whether like selling out should
Speaker 2: become a thing that we worry.
Speaker 1: About again, like it were you. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: not that much older than you guys that like was
Speaker 1: that still a concept for you guys when you were
Speaker 1: in like middle high school? Like it like when Nirvana
Speaker 1: like came on the scene, Like the conversations about Nirvana
Speaker 1: were immediately like they fucking sold out, even though like
Speaker 1: we I wasn't a fan of them before they sold, right,
Speaker 1: I actually like their early stuff before they sold out. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the evolution. Also, Andrew, what were you born
Speaker 1: in the seventies.
Speaker 3: No, but I was gonna say, I think I'm older
Speaker 3: than your deck Anyway, I don't know if.
Speaker 2: You weren't born in the seventies, if you.
Speaker 1: Weren'torn in the seventies, now you might be in dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying ras all right, and look all right, No,
Speaker 1: now let's do the thing for middle school. What month?
Speaker 1: What month? My birthday was last week? Oh, andrews older,
Speaker 1: Andrew's oldest. Andrew's oldest, So Andrew's the oldest, so we
Speaker 1: have to listen to him. Yeah. Yeah, Like I was
Speaker 1: also old for my grade, so that's why that's where
Speaker 1: I get my beautiful and vibe me too. No, like
Speaker 1: the oh, like the whole sellout thing I remember was
Speaker 1: more like a thing I heard older kids talk about.
Speaker 1: So then that would just be an insult I would
Speaker 1: say without really understanding it when I was like ten
Speaker 1: years old. And yeah, my version was, oh, that person
Speaker 1: is like in a commercial now, and that's they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that person sell out, They're in a commercial. That was
Speaker 1: kind of my That was my calculus for that at
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 3: Era, which this might have been my just musical pre
Speaker 3: existing bias, but I think I feel like at my
Speaker 3: school it was like even though Nirvana sold out, they're
Speaker 3: like one of the they're still good right right, yeah,
Speaker 3: despite this, but I think it was like like it
Speaker 3: was like I'm trying to think it was like what
Speaker 3: the pop type groups were that was like real sellouts, right,
Speaker 3: but like I was like what integrity allegedly did they
Speaker 3: were they bringing to the table anyway, Like I don't
Speaker 3: know what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still like when during this era when like
Speaker 2: selling out was bad, the Backstreem Boys came to my
Speaker 2: middle school and like did a concert for the kids
Speaker 2: who hadn't had detention yet. Yeah, and like I had
Speaker 2: had detention, so I missed it. But like sort of.
Speaker 3: Like that like an inverse like from fulsome prison.
Speaker 2: Yes, just going going to kids who they are well
Speaker 2: behaved at a middle school, but like that was I
Speaker 2: did not feel like I missed anything because it was
Speaker 2: like a joke, like a boy band was like not.
Speaker 1: Seen as cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean there's a there's a really
Speaker 2: good article we'll link off to called the Age of
Speaker 2: the Double Sellout that kind of traces this, like from
Speaker 2: the conversation in the nineties about like is R E.
Speaker 2: Ms the sidewinder sleeps tonight like to Poppy are stone
Speaker 2: people posers?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think though that, I mean, this is
Speaker 3: not an original thought of me, but I don't remember
Speaker 3: who said it enough to credit. Maybe I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: just there. But like the I feel like this talk
Speaker 3: died sort of commensurately with the ability to live in
Speaker 3: like be an artist and not live in abject poverty.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Like the thing is, it's like you can't really call
Speaker 3: it selling out now because now it's like basic survival,
Speaker 3: whereas like up to the nineties, there was still a
Speaker 3: sort of social safety net and rents weren't so out
Speaker 3: of control in like metropolitan areas that you could like
Speaker 3: work at a bar twenty five hours a week and
Speaker 3: then play in a band and like, you know, fucking
Speaker 3: not be below the you know, be able to survive
Speaker 3: in some kind of way, which is like literally.
Speaker 1: Not possible right now. Yeah, So this article by W.
Speaker 2: David Marx traces it too, Like these these are the
Speaker 2: three key ideas of like the poptimism movement, which is
Speaker 2: like artists deserve to make a livelihood, so like you
Speaker 2: can't be mad at them for like making being able
Speaker 2: to like make money off of their or without like
Speaker 2: taking a day job. Artists from marginalized communities tend to
Speaker 2: work in commercially oriented genres, which you know, so like
Speaker 2: being like, oh, that's sellout shit was like how people
Speaker 2: greeted disco and like R and B, and it was like.
Speaker 1: The whole that's because it's all like the punk scene
Speaker 1: that even gave us the idea that there was this
Speaker 1: or I mean one of the earlier things is like
Speaker 1: are you going to shift to this like more commercialized
Speaker 1: label version of music versus independent, independently released music.
Speaker 2: And then the last one, which is I think the
Speaker 2: only one I disagree with is like commercial success is
Speaker 2: key to true cultural influence, like Nirvana and Pearl gen
Speaker 2: Pearl Jam changed aesthetics because they sold a lot of records,
Speaker 2: But I think there's a way to do that without
Speaker 2: fully like embracing like a well and more in.
Speaker 1: The Internet age.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like they there's probably some argument that they
Speaker 3: would have had trouble doing that in the fucking mid nineties?
Speaker 1: Are we nineties? Mid nineties? Right?
Speaker 3: Because how old are you gonna do it. There's only
Speaker 3: how many so many spins on one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: minutes that can like get you some relevance. You need
Speaker 3: to make it to trl right right. But yeah, so
Speaker 3: this is how fucking old I am. I just want
Speaker 3: to say all that came right off.
Speaker 1: I know you went, you went twenty minutes to the
Speaker 1: motherfucker about to say head Banger's ball or some shit.
Speaker 2: But so this kind of suggests the idea that like
Speaker 2: that argument about selling out is was the thing that
Speaker 2: was like was like the Last Night's Guard holding back
Speaker 2: the hordes of like capitalism, and like once we lost
Speaker 2: track of that.
Speaker 1: It just it was over. And now we're we have like.
Speaker 2: Mister Beast being the famous person and like just this
Speaker 2: idea like basically the way they draw the place they
Speaker 2: draw the line, and it like kind of ties into
Speaker 2: the video that's making the rounds of like Tina Fey
Speaker 2: going on Amy Poehler's podcast where she's also drawing the
Speaker 2: line at this idea, Like the article calls it dealt
Speaker 2: the age of the double sellout, where somebody like sells
Speaker 2: out in their career to like make a living and
Speaker 2: then once they have that success they're like, and now
Speaker 2: here's my gen brand and mobile phone company, and now
Speaker 2: I am a billion dollar brand. And then they just
Speaker 2: keep going and going and going until they have a
Speaker 2: legitimately unethical amount of wealth.
Speaker 3: I mean I also think like it's just the terrible
Speaker 3: economy where I again, I'm sorry, this is another thing
Speaker 3: that's where.
Speaker 1: This like clip I think with like Amy Poehler and
Speaker 1: then Tina Fey talking about it kind of shows sort
Speaker 1: of even what Amy Poehler's perspective is on what she
Speaker 1: how she looks at what Tina Fey is describing. But
Speaker 1: this is this is a.
Speaker 2: Clip problem with rich people having a side hustle.
Speaker 1: Yeah you mean like a podcast. No, that's doing work.
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you if you sold, like where would
Speaker 1: my line be for you?
Speaker 2: Where would I draw the line?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I know you mean like if I had a if
Speaker 8: I had a rose, Yeah, you know we already have, Like.
Speaker 1: Tina, that is this is where you have to learn
Speaker 1: from gen Z. I'm sorry, and we have to. They
Speaker 1: don't care. They don't, they don't. They don't judge it,
Speaker 1: judge it. We'll get you should not because this is
Speaker 1: the thing that a million you have to have glasses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I have my line of children's medications. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting. I'm curious, like what how Tina
Speaker 1: Fey looks like it at or she's pushing back on
Speaker 1: the idea. She's like, I judge it because I think
Speaker 1: that's selling out, or I judge it because I think
Speaker 1: this is just unchained greed, and I think she just
Speaker 1: thinks that's ghost Yeah right, right right. It's just like
Speaker 1: you don't think that ship. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think she really has a hard problem with it.
Speaker 2: I mean I will say I do think like the object,
Speaker 2: like the esthetic objection to it being like well, you know,
Speaker 2: corporations and like capitalism are going to come in and
Speaker 2: like ruin the artistic instincts, like you know, Quincy Jones
Speaker 2: we talked about like would say that like whenever corporate
Speaker 2: and like people enter the room, like God leaves the room,
Speaker 2: like when you're making somebody like yeah, when you come
Speaker 2: in and you're like, okay, we need it, we actually
Speaker 2: need a top forty hit, and like here's like God
Speaker 2: is not here, Yeah, God is here. God has left
Speaker 2: the room. I do think like that sort of saying,
Speaker 2: like you know, those sorts of considerations dilute or like
Speaker 2: fuck up. The pure artistic intention is also like I think,
Speaker 2: reacting to the same idea of like, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: like fucking evil, like what those instincts to just like
Speaker 2: keep doubling down and doubling down and like making more
Speaker 2: money and making more money. You're ultimately just like you know,
Speaker 2: existing in a spiritual vacuum that's going to like not
Speaker 2: not lead anywhere meaningful for you or for people.
Speaker 3: I wonder it also it has an element I wonder
Speaker 3: of it's a little bit like you guys know way
Speaker 3: more about sports than me, but it's like you get
Speaker 3: paid your new your current contract is payment for your
Speaker 3: last contract or the time spent on your last contract. Right,
Speaker 3: So it is sort of like I mean, like the
Speaker 3: Nirvanas of the world would say, smells like teen spirit
Speaker 3: is because no one bought bleach sure, right, And this
Speaker 3: is like we're not paid for doing ringing the thing.
Speaker 1: I and I sort of like get that.
Speaker 7: I guess, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's more to the
Speaker 1: specificity of like when you're going completely out of your lane,
Speaker 1: like it's one thing to be like, well, someone's offering
Speaker 1: me money for my intellectual property, and I can earn
Speaker 1: something from that because I can't tour a fucking album
Speaker 1: sales or dogshit, then yeah, fucking letter, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: need money. But it's like the point of like, well
Speaker 1: now I'm starting a cell phone company. You're like what
Speaker 1: fucking like you're all just objecting to Ryan Reynolds. But
Speaker 1: it's almost like what venture capital freak approached you about
Speaker 1: this idea that you're like, yeah, actually I do care
Speaker 1: a lot about uh organic cat food that I will
Speaker 1: brand now for me because someone told me I can
Speaker 1: make a ship ton of money. As the face of it, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just like why would you turn it?
Speaker 3: Because I can't think of what it is is. There's
Speaker 3: a layer of middle I was gonna say middle people,
Speaker 3: but it's fucking all middleman. I'm sure who are It's
Speaker 3: not like Ryan Reynolds is like I wanted to like
Speaker 3: branch out into be a sellout. He's just getting approached
Speaker 3: by this, like fucking's a layer of like marketing hucksters,
Speaker 3: and he, for what it's worth, has managed I feel
Speaker 3: like to not really hurt his brand with the mint
Speaker 3: mobile shit, because you're like.
Speaker 1: It's it's wild all the Blake Lively stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but not not through not the not the
Speaker 3: phone do it well for sure? No, But I guess
Speaker 3: that's I think it's I'm just.
Speaker 2: Like viewed as like smart and like good because he's
Speaker 2: able to do that. But like I do, like does
Speaker 2: did we ride the capitalism is safe get your bag
Speaker 2: thing all the way to a world where like Donald
Speaker 2: Trump and Elon Musk are in control of everything, not
Speaker 2: in spite of being wealthy, but because they're wealthy, and
Speaker 2: like that's what people are, Like, well, if everybody's trying
Speaker 2: to get a bag, what like we should just give
Speaker 2: the power and like have the decisions made by the
Speaker 2: people who are the best at doing that because of
Speaker 2: the only thing that matters the bag, Get the biggest bag,
Speaker 2: get get it.
Speaker 3: I just think though we never were not in that world,
Speaker 3: even with this like who's the sellout business? Like that
Speaker 3: was never part of like anything serious. That was a
Speaker 3: little bit of culture, but like truly like the debating
Speaker 3: whether or not selling out is good or bad legitimately
Speaker 3: in the nineties probably applied to like twenty five people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, It's like George Carlin did an MCI
Speaker 1: collect call commercial and we're like, yeah, sell out. You're
Speaker 1: like okay, Like it just wasn't It's not.
Speaker 3: I just felt like it was a thing to talk about,
Speaker 3: but it was more just gatekeeping. Oh I'm cool because
Speaker 3: I like, you know, I know that I don't like
Speaker 3: x ra y band because they're sellouts.
Speaker 2: I do feel like they the artists were like very
Speaker 2: aware of it and like didn't want to be sellouts
Speaker 2: like at that time. Sure in some ways, but it
Speaker 2: just wasn't that many people. Like how many people are
Speaker 2: even given the chance to sell out?
Speaker 1: I agree. I think like partially sort of focusing on
Speaker 1: the people who are, like the artists selling out is
Speaker 1: a little like to use the sports metaphor, is a
Speaker 1: little like the people being like Lebron James makes too
Speaker 1: much money. If I made that much money, I'd go
Speaker 1: to work every and it's like, no, he's actually like
Speaker 1: vastly underpaid.
Speaker 2: Like when you look at like what he's able to do, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the amount of like money he made. Explore the owners,
Speaker 2: like your beef is with the owners. Your beef is
Speaker 2: with the overall system. The struct we're using like the
Speaker 2: faces of the system as like proxies for this.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. So the sellout argument actually dulls
Speaker 1: our sense of class solidarity. Yeah, that's right. Like it
Speaker 1: was the same during the writer strike.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, TV writers in a sense or or whatever,
Speaker 3: all all WJA writers are in a sense overpaid, but
Speaker 3: we were asking for a percentage of profits. So everything
Speaker 3: you think the writer doesn't deserve, you are simply saying
Speaker 3: the CEO. And it's like I disagree with that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, so we're back to it.
Speaker 2: I do think, Yeah, I think there's just some part
Speaker 2: of us that lost lost track of, like an important
Speaker 2: idea when we were just like no, everybody go get
Speaker 2: your bag, and like right now everybody's on the same
Speaker 2: continuum of trying to get the same bag, and al
Speaker 2: Elon Musk must be the best of us.
Speaker 3: Is it just it's just different distractions because the thing
Speaker 3: is like is Nirvana seller and not the real villain
Speaker 3: is David Geffen or not even but you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like it's.
Speaker 1: The label, the labels, the problem someone else sixty deals
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I mean underlying it,
Speaker 1: I think it's just the idea of like what integrity
Speaker 1: is and how we define it and how much we
Speaker 1: hold on to it professionally or not, and that's so
Speaker 1: much larger thing. But yeah, yeah, anyways, I love the
Speaker 1: new Pearl Jam brand tequila. Yeah yeah, yeah, fucking rules
Speaker 1: Pearl Jam Jam Jam and their cannabis brand too. Jeremy's
Speaker 1: smoking pretty good in class today. Jeremy smoking weed.
Speaker 7: That's true.
Speaker 3: We're talking about a little earlier. I don't remember which
Speaker 3: is to make it, but the number of celebrities is it?
Speaker 3: Just the people have severely dropped the ball on endorsing
Speaker 3: weed like it's crazy. This, it's the landscape of weed.
Speaker 3: Marketing should not look the way it looks. No, someone
Speaker 3: fucking there should not be any marketing. Well sure there's
Speaker 3: that too, but I'm just saying I.
Speaker 1: Just gotta go get go back to meeting up in
Speaker 1: a right aid parking lot like the good old days.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's your that's that's.
Speaker 3: Miles's weed brand, right and parking lot.
Speaker 1: It's called it's called I'm in the Blue Durango outside
Speaker 1: the write a a loose baggy.
Speaker 3: You do have to hang out with Miles for twenty
Speaker 3: five minutes to make sure a little.
Speaker 1: Bit and be like yo, you heard this new outcast
Speaker 1: and I'm playing Bombs over Baghdad on Loop like Bro
Speaker 1: and National Underground, Thunderpound stems back you add.
Speaker 3: Listen, someone someone in La needs to open a concept
Speaker 3: weed store that looks like the back of like a Corolla,
Speaker 3: and you have to sit inside of it, and a
Speaker 3: guy comes in from the.
Speaker 1: Dispensary. Is the dispensary is a bunch of Accura integras
Speaker 1: and and each one you get in is where the
Speaker 1: bud tender is. And you just kind of get in
Speaker 1: the patch like closed the door. Yeah, what's up? So
Speaker 1: what you're looking for? Just like some edible something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, cool, cool, cool cool cool? Yeah all right, man,
Speaker 1: beat it, beat it and then they give you a
Speaker 1: an eighth of just like shake dirt weed.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll get out of my
Speaker 2: fucking car.
Speaker 1: This ship looks brown. Was this like vaped before?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, that's just it's good. That's good. Just don't
Speaker 1: smoke it. They're just don't smoking around here, all right?
Speaker 2: Andrew T what a pleasure having you? Where can people
Speaker 2: find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? All that good stuff? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: Andrew Team podcast? Is Yo? This racist our premium shows. Yo,
Speaker 1: can we live?
Speaker 3: It's available at Suboptimal pods dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I don't know. I don't know. Is
Speaker 1: there work media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is not gonna be like a difficult stretch,
Speaker 3: but it's not doing great at the box office.
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed Mickey seventeen.
Speaker 3: Oh there was there's some problems with it, but I
Speaker 3: thought it was fun if a wee bit long for
Speaker 3: my taste, just because I'm old.
Speaker 2: Superproducers Victor and Superducer justin we're talking about Mickey seventeen
Speaker 2: right right when we started the.
Speaker 3: Call primetime Primetime, Pattinson is a real weird creep vibes
Speaker 3: and I'm loving it, not even a creep, just like
Speaker 3: a real real freak, right right, it's been a freak.
Speaker 2: I got that there's suddenly like three movies that I
Speaker 2: have to see at the theater before they're going ethus,
Speaker 2: Mickey seventeen and Black Bag is supposed to be good
Speaker 2: about the weird pitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about the weird pitch.
Speaker 3: But I okay, just since we're doing a video episode,
Speaker 3: I'm both a lefty and I can do this with
Speaker 3: my hands. Whoa, and there's a world where I missed
Speaker 3: my calling as like a three pitches per game pitcher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you need the weirdo. Just do one
Speaker 1: weird pitch. Yeah, just a junk ball. Yeah yeah sure yeah. Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Is there a workI media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Yeah, if they got as symbols, I'm
Speaker 1: there at Miles of Gray everywhere. I'll find Jack and
Speaker 1: I on the basketball podcast Miles and Jack on Mad
Speaker 1: Boostis finds in the ninety Day Fiance podcast for twenty
Speaker 1: Day Fiance. There are some tweets that I like. First
Speaker 1: one is from at What's Charlotte quote tweeted this. It said,
Speaker 1: just watch the lady get into her car, turn on
Speaker 1: Shania Twain, hit her vape like ten times, and then
Speaker 1: reverse directly into the suv behind her in the grocery
Speaker 1: store parking lot. California is a place. And then Charlotte
Speaker 1: quote you that said Kamala is a private citizen. Now
Speaker 1: you can't just post stuff like this about her. Another one,
Speaker 1: This really appeals to me as someone who sucks at
Speaker 1: bowling at ever ever, Moore's ivy genuinely nothing worse than
Speaker 1: going bowling with you people who are actually good, like
Speaker 1: what are you? Why are you doing all that? And
Speaker 1: then another one because we were talking about drug dealers
Speaker 1: at Iggy three four two four. Doing drugs is low
Speaker 1: key wizard behavior. Crushing up rocks and crystals, pouring up potions,
Speaker 1: eating shrooms, smoking plants, fun whimsical way to look at
Speaker 1: drug affuse. This is like wizard behavior and I'm just
Speaker 1: crushing up rocks, not the original wi yeah yeah, being
Speaker 1: a rocks.
Speaker 3: I will say bowl against the most Fred Flintstone ass
Speaker 3: for possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I throw a rock at these these pillars
Speaker 1: bone yeah yeah, all right. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack undersquorel Brandon on Blue Sky at Jack
Speaker 1: ob the number one I enjoyed a tweet.
Speaker 2: Mary Louise Kelly from NPR tweeted, starting this fall at
Speaker 2: Harvard is a limit is eliminating tuition for students whose
Speaker 2: families make two hundred thousand dollars a year or less.
Speaker 2: According to the Crimson and Sam has will be tweeted.
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Speaker 1: and you can find the footnotes, which is where we
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode. In those footnotes, we also link off to
Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy and Miles,
Speaker 1: is there a song that you think people might enjoy it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this beat. This beat maker Monu Man m O
Speaker 1: n U m A and a called producer. The track
Speaker 1: is called Sullen and it's like a very dark kind
Speaker 1: of electronic bee vibe. If it just feels like some
Speaker 1: scene in the future where people are about to do
Speaker 1: like fucking I don't know, to do a wild bank
Speaker 1: robbery or some shit. It's like very tense, but it
Speaker 1: fucking goes. So if look, you're out there, maybe going
Speaker 1: to a right ed parking lot of Durango, this might
Speaker 1: be the song for you. This is Sullen by Monu Man.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, we will look onto that in the footnotes.
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