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Speaker 2: The Internet, and welcome to season three eighty, Episode three of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where

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Speaker 1: Guess what It's National's work Yard Day, National Backyard Day,

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Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. Man. I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: happened to me in college? Man, I was drinking protein shakes.

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Speaker 1: him from the Yoh is this racist podcast? It's Andrew T.

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Speaker 1: We takes from Andrew T. Everyone should disagree.

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Speaker 3: Look at the world and the seven sees this guy

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I love when motherfuckers that ship.

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Speaker 1: They don't let they don't let the people talk like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sure fucking let them like do anything musical at all

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Speaker 1: That's it, right, right right, beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous. They offer

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Speaker 1: So it turns out, what is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 1: Andrew all right? Underrated? Uh? Game Night? The movie?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it got worse, got worse. To you said,

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Speaker 1: Did you know this?

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Speaker 3: Basically, every time you someone lands on something, if they

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Speaker 1: That the is that the version you played with? No?

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Speaker 3: Like some steal all your opponent's monopolies kind of ship

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Speaker 1: Yeah really. Also, it just it was fun.

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Speaker 3: three D printing? You can do anything these Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: But it could be people from all over right just

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Speaker 3: Also, though I've never done it, I feel like it

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Speaker 3: Games where one person is the villain. Yeah, And there's

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Speaker 1: like if you want to play Fucked Up, you can. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We're off to a one one disappointing home home opener.

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Speaker 3: There must be a Jurassic Park game, right, you guys

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Speaker 1: gamed yourself dangerous game myself and for thrills just to

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Speaker 1: see just live. Yeah, just don't hurt that much. So

436
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: you said that much, I like barely cried. That's cool.

437
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Speaker 1: That all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

438
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the news. We'll be right back. And

439
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: we're back. We're back. And it has been a clean

440
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: five years tomorrow. Yeah, since Tiger King dropped on all

441
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: our asses and we were stuck inside.

442
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was this was this like officially makes it

443
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: real to me that it's been five years since the pandemic.

444
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: Tom Hanks, Rudy Gobaar Day, it's really this one. Yeah, man,

445
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: this is that. That's when we were like so bored

446
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: that we were just like this isn't this is an

447
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: instant classic, you guys.

448
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: This is great. I remember when we saw the trailer

449
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: pre lockdown and we were all in the office. You're like,

450
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? And then here we are.

451
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, Joe Exotic is I think probably inspired by

452
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: all the lawlessness that is happening under Trump at the moment,

453
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: and figured maybe it's this time that I'll get a

454
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: pardon from Donald Trump, because he did try during Trump's

455
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: last term and he was so convinced he was going

456
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: to get when this motherfucker hired a limousine to wait

457
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: outside of the prison to whisk him away and it

458
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: did not happen. Sorry, Joe Exotic, it did not happen

459
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: this time, though, he is asking that both he and

460
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Speaker 1: his husband get pardons. So this is.

461
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Speaker 2: Supposed to be somebody that he met in prison, prison

462
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: in prison, yea yeah. I was like, dude, I don't

463
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: recognize this person.

464
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: No, no, this is new. I don't remember Jack shit

465
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: from that series. Like for me either, I just remember him.

466
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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what he what is he even

467
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: seeking a pardon from? Like that's right, he tried to

468
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: hire someone to kill Carol Basket and that's why he

469
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: said and including like an undercover or some shit.

470
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: And I feel like most people were like, I mean,

471
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: she was kind of annoying, Yeah, because when you watch it,

472
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: you're like, she was kind of on board.

473
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember there were people being like, well she killed

474
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Speaker 1: her husband, you know. Yeah, so yeah, he was just

475
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: going to Costa Rica. But anyway, this is like a

476
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: post he did like last year, said, meet Jorge Marquez.

477
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: He is thirty three. He is an amazing he is wait,

478
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: he is, he is so amazing, and he is from Mexico.

479
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: Now the question of getting married in prison and getting

480
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: him asylum or we be leaving America when we both

481
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: get out. I'm reading it as written. Yeah yeah, sick,

482
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Either way, I wish I would have met

483
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: him long ago. So that's like his like official post

484
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: that he was just hard launching the relationship. Yeah. And

485
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: then I guess Joe now thinks he has an angle

486
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: that will appeal to Trump and the like xenophobic climate,

487
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: because now this is his new pitch. He with a

488
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: picture of them happily together, yes and jungle bundle background.

489
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: You can it might be on ped said he said.

490
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: Quote this is from him on Twitter. Quote This motherfucker's

491
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: playing for paying for a blue check too. Jesus Christ,

492
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: Well you could deport him at some point. But if

493
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: you let me go, we'll both go to Mexico, which

494
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: will save you the deporting him and allow you to

495
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: take care of me. Huh, I don't know what that means.

496
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: No matter what happens, he's my husband and will never

497
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: abandon each other. This bond is that strong. And it's

498
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: like you're not getting out, Joe.

499
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: This bond is that strong. By the way, this tweet

500
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: opened with the words, you could deport him at some point.

501
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is a butt jack. But if you

502
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: let me go, we'll both go to Mexico. I'll go

503
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: to Mexico.

504
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: Too, and you can uh what, I don't know, you

505
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: and him and allow you to take care of me.

506
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, and maybe the save him the cost

507
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: of taking care of another American. I got it, as

508
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: you know.

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00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: I think it's just like taking care of as in

510
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: because he's still asking for a pardon, right right. So

511
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: you take care of me, you take care of me,

512
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: I take care.

513
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 6: Of you, awarding the love of my life.

514
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I take care of me, and and we're here. We're

515
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: in love. So Joe, you know, it's it's a long road, man,

516
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: It's a long road, you know, keep your head up,

517
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: keep that chin up.

518
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean truly, given that I haven't thought of this

519
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: dude for like four years and eleven months in two weeks,

520
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm this is surprising. I'm genuinely surprised by what about

521
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: like Jo that that that, yeah, I get not that

522
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: he found love, I suppose, but like that he this

523
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: whole scheme that he's pitching.

524
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't know all event I'm just like, I could

525
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: not have guessed you.

526
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: Might need you might be due for a rewatch, because

527
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: this is actually the least surprising thing I've based on

528
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: my knowledge of Joe Exotic, that he found a younger

529
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: maker man. Yeah, that he's like in a relationship and

530
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: like trying to trying some scheme that is too ambitious

531
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: and unrealistic to actually work.

532
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just looking because I was looking

533
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: at the little tag on this photo of him and

534
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: his husband or fiance and his Joe exoticofficial dot com.

535
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the website this had, this place

536
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: has if this is his website. Joe Exotic Official Updates

537
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: everything new, FBI misconduct found, Volunteers needed, Joe Exotic, a

538
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: Joe Exotic, the Tiger King has finally reacent his very

539
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: own clone that is available for personalized conversations and more.

540
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I know this ship ain't yo, damn Son, look at

541
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: you please? Oh wow, okay, all right, you know I

542
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: didn't see that one coming. Oh it's video chat, so

543
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be interacting with this man who has been

544
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: shot four times in the chest. Right, I thought those

545
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: are tattoos. Joe Exotic is most likely the most famous

546
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: all times. Of that might be Nelson Mandela. I don't know,

547
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: but it is. Who do you well? Who do you

548
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: think you can?

549
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: You can probably sext Ai Nelson Mandela too, though yeah

550
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: Charles Manson though got more drip, though more swag.

551
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got reverse Mandel effect.

552
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: I think Nelson Mandela is still alive.

553
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: He never died as far as I'm concerned.

554
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. Well, yeah, there's v I possibilities. No, okay, anyway, Joe,

555
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: God blessed. I don't think scroll down was that was?

556
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't expected as I was like, oh okay, yeah,

557
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: could have predicted that. We do like to check in

558
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: with the markets on this podcast, specifically, how's Tesla doing?

559
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 8: Oh?

560
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: I worried about my three Tesla's I feel people are

561
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: like saying it's not cool to have them anymore.

562
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: We'll believe you.

563
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 7: It's going down.

564
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: So it's been nine weeks have continued with else for

565
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Tesla and the stock prices falling fifty three percent. It

566
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: final pre see Highland heard day heyday in December of that. Okay, look,

567
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: this is what happened, nine straight weeks of the price

568
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: going down. It was around December again the pre le hayar, Yeah,

569
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: it was at its peak. Then something happened, man around

570
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: Q one five, I'm sure what it was. But right now,

571
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: just like in the last fucking two days, these are

572
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: the fucking headlines around Tesla. Board memor are selling over

573
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: one hundred million of their own stock. There are protests everywhere.

574
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: People are setting fires at collision centers, centers, vandalizing the cars.

575
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: The there's a thing that now that alleges that insurance

576
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: prices are going up to cover Tesla's because like Hyundai's

577
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: and like the USB like like hacked to like start

578
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: a Hundai or whatever. Kiya the Kia boys shit, yeah,

579
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: like and that caused insurance race to go up. They're

580
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: saying the vandalism against Tesla is now causing insurance rates

581
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: to also go up. We will see if that holds

582
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: you guys. Stop it, yeah, stop it. Okay, this is.

583
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: An eight time this is this is terrorism actually, I

584
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: mean it is really terrorism. Actually when you think about it,

585
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: it's terrorism because Tesla.

586
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: Owners are terrorized.

587
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeahs is sad.

588
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Look at this is this is a fucking whoa shit,

589
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: this is the fucking collision center. Someone said, oh, look man,

590
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: it's not it. It is not popping. I mean the

591
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: fire is, but not the ban and again batteries are popping.

592
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: But also truly not one hundred percent clear that if

593
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: that was that doesn't that art doesn't have to be arsen,

594
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be arsen.

595
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Those cars do burst into flames every once in a while. Yeah,

596
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: what what is the outlet for that video?

597
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: RJ just some dude named r J because I don't

598
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: know it also did it did also say that resist

599
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: with spray painted at the factory. But that feels like

600
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: some ship that I don't know if that wasn't night

601
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: does do itself, you know.

602
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: Right right right, No, I mean this is definitely this

603
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: absolutely happened like in Las Vegas. Like that's yeah, that's uh,

604
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: that's a actual this is an actual news story. The

605
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: other stuff. What happened? Guys? Come on, yeah, right, but

606
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: yeah they say they, oh, maybe they did find a suspect. No,

607
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: still on the loose, Still on the loose, loose, Yeah,

608
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: our favorite phrase in this new world, still on.

609
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 7: The loose down, don't go to a McDonald.

610
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, So now Elon is like, dude, he's posting

611
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: like a kid in junior high school that just listened

612
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 1: to a FI for the first time or some shit.

613
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: He's like, my companies made great products that people love,

614
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: and I've never physically hurt anyone, So why the hate

615
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: and violence against me? Then later on, I am endlessly

616
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: amused by the infinite indignities I suffer on the very

617
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: platform that I own. Wow, fuck you and so much so. Somehow,

618
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: so much of the media coverage, like we talk about

619
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: it's just doing the thing they're shying away from describing

620
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: him as a Nazi that is dismantling the government, like

621
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: when that's quite literally what is happening. This isnt this

622
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: from business a business insider in the market part that's

623
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: sound of like he was. He's endlessly amused by that.

624
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: We're good here, Yeah, such a word. I'm actually endlessly amused.

625
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: This is funny, This is actually hilarious. I did read

626
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: those meets out of sequence. The first one was I

627
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: am endlessly amused. That was in February. The what did

628
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I do wrong? What do you guys? This last week?

629
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: So we went from lolling about it to crying about it.

630
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: It's actually hilarious to me. This is actually very fused, bro,

631
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Thank you for the free last he is that.

632
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: I forget who did the original tweet, but like, just

633
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: like anyone who uses the laugh crying emoji is the

634
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: angriest person you've ever had, right, And I.

635
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: Think it goes back like people who are just sprinkling

636
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: loll constantly, like after saying something they're upset about and

637
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: then well loll yeah, like literally literally loling over here.

638
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: At the body. What you just said?

639
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: That was insulting?

640
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: Really, I've never heard anyone physically, I've never physically heard

641
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: anyone like what a weird tell you are?

642
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I'm about to post something that is just

643
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: like me complaining and like just sharing my feelings. But

644
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: I do need to get legals eyes on this one. Yeah,

645
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: because I'm saying I've never heard anyone. Okay, Elan, So

646
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: what you can say is you've never physically directly with your.

647
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: Own bare hands. Yeah yeah, and your yeah, your negligence

648
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: as a business owner has harmed many Yeah, and your

649
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Speaker 1: direct actions as whatever the fuck this is. You know,

650
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: like all those cars that somehow end up on fire

651
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: that people are whatever and they crash whatever it is,

652
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: what it is. But again the media descriptions business insider

653
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, what, there's like four reasons why this

654
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: why the stock is going down? One they called this

655
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: subheader distracted CEO. And then this is what this is

656
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: like part of the paragraph quote. In large part, investors

657
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: have blamed his growing role in the Trump administration, with

658
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Musk heading the efforts of the Department of Government Efficiency.

659
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: He himself has noted great difficulty in dividing his attention

660
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: between DOGE and as many companies. Okay, here's another one.

661
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: This is from I think Barons it' said quote, but

662
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: we say sales data to start the year. Have investors

663
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: worried that Musk's political activities are turning off car Bykes

664
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: his political activities.

665
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: I genuinely so, it must really be that it's just that,

666
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: like he's his distraction. It's not that he's distracted, Like

667
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: obviously for a business, it would be better if he

668
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: was the less actual attention must pays it's better.

669
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: But it's that he's a bottleneck, right, Like you can't

670
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: do shit.

671
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, Like if if the competent people could simply

672
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: operate without elon musk, that would be good.

673
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorite I bring

674
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: it up a lot. But one of my favorite.

675
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Historical details I guess left out a lot is like

676
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 2: one of the big reasons D Day was successful. We've

677
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: been talking D Day, this is D Day talk, was

678
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: that Hitler slept in until noon on D Day and

679
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: everybody was so scared of him and like he was

680
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: like such a micromanager that like they just like couldn't

681
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: make a decision until he like woke up of.

682
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: His own accord.

683
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So yeah, that that's one of the small

684
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: problems with authoritarian.

685
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: Got to We've got to we're doubling up on that

686
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: right now.

687
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: Right, there's no there's no amount of coke Musk can

688
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: be on that doesn't eventually he's going to get the

689
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: sleepies at some point.

690
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or fully himself like one

691
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: of these times holding up the chase.

692
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, Like when they describe it, it sounds

693
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: like they're talking about him just being spread too thin.

694
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: They don't mention tooth hailing controversial, you know in the

695
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Trump administration, it's like, d I can bear it, I think,

696
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: but it's just because it had it being like it's

697
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: also like his his extreme views.

698
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: Was what I saw, but it is like a thing

699
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: where you're trying to judge people, like, you know, he's

700
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: selling a product that is no longer selling well because

701
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: of something happening with the public's opinion of him and

702
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: their desire to be associated with him, even if they're

703
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: not going to be like, you know, that was definitely

704
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: and obviously somebody doing two aggressive Nazi salutes that burst

705
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: forth from their soul in a way that was like

706
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: almost like involuntary, uh. And a lot of people saw

707
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: that shit because it was on like a national stage

708
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: on inauguration that like even if you're just like a

709
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: lot of people think he is a Nazi, uh, and

710
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: that's got to be bad for sales figures, Like even

711
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: the fact that they like, like I think they were

712
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: saying that at first and now they're even like.

713
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Backing off of that. Yeah, yeah, which is I mean,

714
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: because you look around the world, like in Europe, sales

715
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: are tanking, and it's clear they have direct history interacting

716
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: with Nazis in their countries, so they're like fuck in London,

717
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: there's stuff like they people have been putting up these

718
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: sort of like activist ads and like bus stops or

719
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: it's like him in a Tesla like see highling as

720
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: a zero to nineteen thirty nine and one point two

721
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: this type shit and like on factories are doing all

722
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: kinds of shit. But all that to say is like

723
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: in Europe that's going down for that reason. In the

724
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: US it's the same thing. But I think the only

725
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: difference is China, where that was the biggest EV market

726
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: in the world where he was getting crazy business. That

727
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: whole thing is because he's completely seated ground to all

728
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: these other companies that like actually offer different cars, and

729
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: also the battery maker for Tesla's now like working with

730
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: a competitor, and he's like, yeah, yeah, it's.

731
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: It probably is genuinely like the other thing. I would

732
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: just guess again as a fucking idiot who knows nothing

733
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: that like, even without all the Nazi shit, Like the

734
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 3: Tesla market was pretty saturated. Anyone who's gonna buy said

735
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: Tesla in America just has one. And I'm guessing he

736
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: thought because it's like electric car, all the you know,

737
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: liberal ish type folks. I think he genuinely thought he

738
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: could open up a whole new Nazi market, like going

739
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: far like yeah, right, but those people still aren't buying.

740
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: Fucking But this is where like this dude is so insulated,

741
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: is because he's around these magafreaks for a little bit

742
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: and they're like gassing him up that he's like, Yo,

743
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: this this is a move, this is the wave, without

744
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: understanding that culturally, like I said this before, the right

745
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: wing has been trying to poison the well of evs

746
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: for fucking ever and so. And also, like the truck,

747
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: the cyber truck does not appeal to the American truck

748
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: demographic because it just doesn't look like some hard work,

749
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not.

750
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: Gonna get thirty years in the future, some free Nazi

751
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: business advice. Genuinely, I think a way to get up

752
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: his Tesla sales to the Nazis he's like courting is

753
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: to create a Tesla charger that runs on gasoline. You

754
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: put it in your output le voltage, just a generator

755
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: and you put yeah it's like a big ass generator,

756
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: or just pour gasol into yeah.

757
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: Or they're just gonna put s s bolts on the

758
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: chargers yeah and just be like cowered by electricity. Wink

759
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: wink wink. Yeah, good luck with all that. Yeah. But

760
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: that Joe Rogan thing was, Yeah, I did.

761
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: I do just wanna because I think I think this

762
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan clip where I think it was Elon's last

763
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: appearance on Rogan from a few weeks ago, where he

764
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: like has his AI say dirty words and is just

765
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: like laugh like can't stop. Like he looks like me

766
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: when I first heard they're all gonna laugh at you

767
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: the right, you know, like the funniest thing I'd ever

768
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: heard to that point in my life. He's just making

769
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: his AI say like dirty things and laughing like until

770
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: he's crying. Yeah, and even Joe Rogan is like, what like.

771
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Seems here is fucking spiking. Yeah, no, it's he's about

772
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: to die, like an embarrassing, like an fringe based death.

773
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is him. If he was.

774
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Wearing a bright yellow shirt, he would be sweating directly

775
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: through that ship or.

776
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Just like in a stand up special where he was

777
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: sweating through it because he was bombing the whole time.

778
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, this is this is that clip. No, she's

779
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: just a pain in my ass? Yes, yes, yes, I

780
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 1: can't stop laughing dude.

781
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 8: No, oh, no, chaos, he's.

782
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: Off stage that one way.

783
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: The pity nod from Joe Rogan over a joke is

784
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: like the saddest thing I've ever I do think.

785
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: It's a good illustration of two double standards that we

786
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: have that are like taking over our society. One is

787
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: like the double standard of like how fun and cool

788
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: AI seems to the person using it versus like the

789
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: person viewing it from the outside. Are you serious?

790
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 7: Dude?

791
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: Did you just hear that he's just like yeah, man,

792
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: that Russell Westbrook gift where he's like broke.

793
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes.

794
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: And then the double standard of obviously billionaires insulated for

795
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: at least over a decade from anyone who has ever

796
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: told them the truth just going full Tony soprano panic

797
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: attack dinner where he's just like looking around like funny,

798
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: was this guy not laughing?

799
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: I need to rewrite it. But I wrote a short

800
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: story for a friend of This show Molly Lambert's reading

801
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: series a couple months ago, wherein it's an artist diary

802
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: from the perspective of an AI that's only been told

803
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: by the AI bros that it's a genius, it's the

804
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: most amazing artist. And then when it finally gets into

805
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: the world, it gets real feedback, it becomes suicidal.

806
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: This happens like at every level, you know, like with entertainers.

807
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: It's like that thing where like you can kill it

808
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: in a boardroom, like and you kill it for people

809
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: who aren't really connected to what you're doing, like this

810
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: person will definitely help serve the purpose of our other thing.

811
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: And then like then there's like the streets level where

812
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: people fuck with it or like it or not, and

813
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: so many people are so lost in the boardroom hyper

814
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: they're like, why killed it in a room for all

815
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: these rich, older, hyper wealthy white people, Like this is

816
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: this must be the wave? And then you do some

817
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: real shit and you see the response from people, and

818
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: then you're like, why do people hate me? Well, it's

819
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: like it's like when Elon went on stage with fucking

820
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle and like just start eating meme bo yeah, yeah,

821
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: And then like when it didn't land. I mean, it

822
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: didn't land for other reasons, but it was like, oh,

823
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: you thought this is funny for real?

824
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a show, this is not the woke mob

825
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: coming for you. Yeah, show, You're not funny.

826
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: You thought reading from like a weird Nazi joke book

827
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: was gonna crush like it does online.

828
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Weird dude?

829
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, these people just listened to fifteen straight

830
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: minutes of Dave Chappelle being like, I don't know, trans

831
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: people kind of gross me out, and then he got

832
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: up and still like bombs that hard.

833
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a sad, sad state

834
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: for Elon.

835
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: But even like Rogan by the end of that is

836
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: kind of like laughing to move it along. So I

837
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: do feel like he comes out of that unmarked, you know,

838
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: he comes out of that being like.

839
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, guys, it was a sleigh. I regret to

840
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 6: inform you that I fucking killed on Rogan again.

841
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: Funny because like you know, Rogan will push back on

842
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: some like comedian guests if he thinks this shit's not

843
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: funny or just kind of like whatever, but like it's

844
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: clear that he he he's like damn like Elon Musk

845
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: is so powerful.

846
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: I can't even like yeah, quote unquote after after, after

847
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: Elon leaves, he's like, damn, dude. I mean, Elon's a

848
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: genius in a lot of ways, but that sha wasn't funny.

849
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly, Yeah, he still had for yeah, which

850
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: is like, oh, yeah, you're.

851
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Like sick as dudes in Austin right now, like mentally,

852
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: like mentally, seriously, let's take a quick break.

853
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 7: We'll be right back, and we're back.

854
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: We're back and we're back, and.

855
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm starting to see a concept be discussed that I

856
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: haven't seen seriously discussed since I was in middle school,

857
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: and like profoundly annoying. And that is a serious debate

858
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: about like selling out and whether like selling out should

859
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: become a thing that we worry.

860
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: About again, like it were you. I feel like I'm

861
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: not that much older than you guys that like was

862
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: that still a concept for you guys when you were

863
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: in like middle high school? Like it like when Nirvana

864
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: like came on the scene, Like the conversations about Nirvana

865
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: were immediately like they fucking sold out, even though like

866
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: we I wasn't a fan of them before they sold, right,

867
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: I actually like their early stuff before they sold out. Well,

868
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: I think the evolution. Also, Andrew, what were you born

869
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: in the seventies.

870
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: No, but I was gonna say, I think I'm older

871
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: than your deck Anyway, I don't know if.

872
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: You weren't born in the seventies, if you.

873
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: Weren'torn in the seventies, now you might be in dead. Yeah,

874
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying ras all right, and look all right, No,

875
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: now let's do the thing for middle school. What month?

876
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: What month? My birthday was last week? Oh, andrews older,

877
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Andrew's oldest. Andrew's oldest, So Andrew's the oldest, so we

878
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: have to listen to him. Yeah. Yeah, Like I was

879
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: also old for my grade, so that's why that's where

880
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: I get my beautiful and vibe me too. No, like

881
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: the oh, like the whole sellout thing I remember was

882
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: more like a thing I heard older kids talk about.

883
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: So then that would just be an insult I would

884
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: say without really understanding it when I was like ten

885
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: years old. And yeah, my version was, oh, that person

886
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: is like in a commercial now, and that's they're like, oh,

887
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: that person sell out, They're in a commercial. That was

888
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: kind of my That was my calculus for that at

889
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: in that.

890
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: Era, which this might have been my just musical pre

891
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: existing bias, but I think I feel like at my

892
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: school it was like even though Nirvana sold out, they're

893
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: like one of the they're still good right right, yeah,

894
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: despite this, but I think it was like like it

895
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: was like I'm trying to think it was like what

896
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: the pop type groups were that was like real sellouts, right,

897
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: but like I was like what integrity allegedly did they

898
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 3: were they bringing to the table anyway, Like I don't

899
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: know what the fuck?

900
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still like when during this era when like

901
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: selling out was bad, the Backstreem Boys came to my

902
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: middle school and like did a concert for the kids

903
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: who hadn't had detention yet. Yeah, and like I had

904
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: had detention, so I missed it. But like sort of.

905
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: Like that like an inverse like from fulsome prison.

906
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: Yes, just going going to kids who they are well

907
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: behaved at a middle school, but like that was I

908
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: did not feel like I missed anything because it was

909
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: like a joke, like a boy band was like not.

910
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: Seen as cool.

911
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I mean there's a there's a really

912
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: good article we'll link off to called the Age of

913
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: the Double Sellout that kind of traces this, like from

914
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: the conversation in the nineties about like is R E.

915
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: Ms the sidewinder sleeps tonight like to Poppy are stone

916
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: people posers?

917
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

918
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think though that, I mean, this is

919
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: not an original thought of me, but I don't remember

920
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: who said it enough to credit. Maybe I'm sure it's

921
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 3: just there. But like the I feel like this talk

922
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: died sort of commensurately with the ability to live in

923
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: like be an artist and not live in abject poverty.

924
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Right.

925
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: Like the thing is, it's like you can't really call

926
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: it selling out now because now it's like basic survival,

927
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: whereas like up to the nineties, there was still a

928
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: sort of social safety net and rents weren't so out

929
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: of control in like metropolitan areas that you could like

930
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: work at a bar twenty five hours a week and

931
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: then play in a band and like, you know, fucking

932
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: not be below the you know, be able to survive

933
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: in some kind of way, which is like literally.

934
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: Not possible right now. Yeah, So this article by W.

935
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: David Marx traces it too, Like these these are the

936
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: three key ideas of like the poptimism movement, which is

937
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: like artists deserve to make a livelihood, so like you

938
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: can't be mad at them for like making being able

939
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: to like make money off of their or without like

940
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: taking a day job. Artists from marginalized communities tend to

941
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: work in commercially oriented genres, which you know, so like

942
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: being like, oh, that's sellout shit was like how people

943
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 2: greeted disco and like R and B, and it was like.

944
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: The whole that's because it's all like the punk scene

945
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: that even gave us the idea that there was this

946
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: or I mean one of the earlier things is like

947
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: are you going to shift to this like more commercialized

948
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: label version of music versus independent, independently released music.

949
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: And then the last one, which is I think the

950
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: only one I disagree with is like commercial success is

951
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: key to true cultural influence, like Nirvana and Pearl gen

952
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Pearl Jam changed aesthetics because they sold a lot of records,

953
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: But I think there's a way to do that without

954
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: fully like embracing like a well and more in.

955
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: The Internet age.

956
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like they there's probably some argument that they

957
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: would have had trouble doing that in the fucking mid nineties?

958
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: Are we nineties? Mid nineties? Right?

959
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: Because how old are you gonna do it. There's only

960
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: how many so many spins on one hundred and twenty

961
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: minutes that can like get you some relevance. You need

962
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: to make it to trl right right. But yeah, so

963
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: this is how fucking old I am. I just want

964
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: to say all that came right off.

965
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: I know you went, you went twenty minutes to the

966
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: motherfucker about to say head Banger's ball or some shit.

967
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: But so this kind of suggests the idea that like

968
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: that argument about selling out is was the thing that

969
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: was like was like the Last Night's Guard holding back

970
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: the hordes of like capitalism, and like once we lost

971
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: track of that.

972
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: It just it was over. And now we're we have like.

973
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: Mister Beast being the famous person and like just this

974
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: idea like basically the way they draw the place they

975
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: draw the line, and it like kind of ties into

976
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: the video that's making the rounds of like Tina Fey

977
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: going on Amy Poehler's podcast where she's also drawing the

978
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: line at this idea, Like the article calls it dealt

979
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: the age of the double sellout, where somebody like sells

980
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: out in their career to like make a living and

981
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: then once they have that success they're like, and now

982
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: here's my gen brand and mobile phone company, and now

983
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: I am a billion dollar brand. And then they just

984
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: keep going and going and going until they have a

985
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: legitimately unethical amount of wealth.

986
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean I also think like it's just the terrible

987
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: economy where I again, I'm sorry, this is another thing

988
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: that's where.

989
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: This like clip I think with like Amy Poehler and

990
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: then Tina Fey talking about it kind of shows sort

991
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: of even what Amy Poehler's perspective is on what she

992
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: how she looks at what Tina Fey is describing. But

993
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: this is this is a.

994
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Clip problem with rich people having a side hustle.

995
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah you mean like a podcast. No, that's doing work.

996
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you if you sold, like where would

997
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: my line be for you?

998
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: Where would I draw the line?

999
00:54:59,719 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1000
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 8: I know you mean like if I had a if

1001
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 8: I had a rose, Yeah, you know we already have, Like.

1002
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: Tina, that is this is where you have to learn

1003
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: from gen Z. I'm sorry, and we have to. They

1004
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: don't care. They don't, they don't. They don't judge it,

1005
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: judge it. We'll get you should not because this is

1006
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: the thing that a million you have to have glasses. Yeah,

1007
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: well I have my line of children's medications. Oh man,

1008
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting. I'm curious, like what how Tina

1009
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: Fey looks like it at or she's pushing back on

1010
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: the idea. She's like, I judge it because I think

1011
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: that's selling out, or I judge it because I think

1012
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: this is just unchained greed, and I think she just

1013
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: thinks that's ghost Yeah right, right right. It's just like

1014
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: you don't think that ship. Yeah.

1015
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 3: I don't think she really has a hard problem with it.

1016
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean I will say I do think like the object,

1017
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: like the esthetic objection to it being like well, you know,

1018
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: corporations and like capitalism are going to come in and

1019
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: like ruin the artistic instincts, like you know, Quincy Jones

1020
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: we talked about like would say that like whenever corporate

1021
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: and like people enter the room, like God leaves the room,

1022
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: like when you're making somebody like yeah, when you come

1023
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: in and you're like, okay, we need it, we actually

1024
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 2: need a top forty hit, and like here's like God

1025
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: is not here, Yeah, God is here. God has left

1026
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: the room. I do think like that sort of saying,

1027
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: like you know, those sorts of considerations dilute or like

1028
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: fuck up. The pure artistic intention is also like I think,

1029
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: reacting to the same idea of like, yeah, this is

1030
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: like fucking evil, like what those instincts to just like

1031
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: keep doubling down and doubling down and like making more

1032
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: money and making more money. You're ultimately just like you know,

1033
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: existing in a spiritual vacuum that's going to like not

1034
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: not lead anywhere meaningful for you or for people.

1035
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: I wonder it also it has an element I wonder

1036
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: of it's a little bit like you guys know way

1037
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: more about sports than me, but it's like you get

1038
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 3: paid your new your current contract is payment for your

1039
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: last contract or the time spent on your last contract. Right,

1040
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: So it is sort of like I mean, like the

1041
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: Nirvanas of the world would say, smells like teen spirit

1042
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: is because no one bought bleach sure, right, And this

1043
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: is like we're not paid for doing ringing the thing.

1044
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: I and I sort of like get that.

1045
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 7: I guess, yeah, I get that.

1046
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's more to the

1047
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: specificity of like when you're going completely out of your lane,

1048
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: like it's one thing to be like, well, someone's offering

1049
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: me money for my intellectual property, and I can earn

1050
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: something from that because I can't tour a fucking album

1051
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: sales or dogshit, then yeah, fucking letter, yeah, because I

1052
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: need money. But it's like the point of like, well

1053
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: now I'm starting a cell phone company. You're like what

1054
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: fucking like you're all just objecting to Ryan Reynolds. But

1055
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: it's almost like what venture capital freak approached you about

1056
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: this idea that you're like, yeah, actually I do care

1057
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot about uh organic cat food that I will

1058
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: brand now for me because someone told me I can

1059
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: make a ship ton of money. As the face of it, yeah,

1060
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

1061
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just like why would you turn it?

1062
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Because I can't think of what it is is. There's

1063
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: a layer of middle I was gonna say middle people,

1064
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: but it's fucking all middleman. I'm sure who are It's

1065
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: not like Ryan Reynolds is like I wanted to like

1066
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: branch out into be a sellout. He's just getting approached

1067
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 3: by this, like fucking's a layer of like marketing hucksters,

1068
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: and he, for what it's worth, has managed I feel

1069
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: like to not really hurt his brand with the mint

1070
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: mobile shit, because you're like.

1071
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: It's it's wild all the Blake Lively stuff.

1072
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but not not through not the not the

1073
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: phone do it well for sure? No, But I guess

1074
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 3: that's I think it's I'm just.

1075
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: Like viewed as like smart and like good because he's

1076
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: able to do that. But like I do, like does

1077
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: did we ride the capitalism is safe get your bag

1078
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: thing all the way to a world where like Donald

1079
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Speaker 2: Trump and Elon Musk are in control of everything, not

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00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: in spite of being wealthy, but because they're wealthy, and

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00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: like that's what people are, Like, well, if everybody's trying

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00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: to get a bag, what like we should just give

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Speaker 2: the power and like have the decisions made by the

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Speaker 2: people who are the best at doing that because of

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Speaker 2: the only thing that matters the bag, Get the biggest bag,

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Speaker 2: get get it.

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Speaker 3: I just think though we never were not in that world,

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Speaker 3: even with this like who's the sellout business? Like that

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: was never part of like anything serious. That was a

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Speaker 3: little bit of culture, but like truly like the debating

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Speaker 3: whether or not selling out is good or bad legitimately

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00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: in the nineties probably applied to like twenty five people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, It's like George Carlin did an MCI

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Speaker 1: collect call commercial and we're like, yeah, sell out. You're

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Speaker 1: like okay, Like it just wasn't It's not.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like it was a thing to talk about,

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01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: but it was more just gatekeeping. Oh I'm cool because

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Speaker 3: I like, you know, I know that I don't like

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Speaker 3: x ra y band because they're sellouts.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like they the artists were like very

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Speaker 2: aware of it and like didn't want to be sellouts

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Speaker 2: like at that time. Sure in some ways, but it

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Speaker 2: just wasn't that many people. Like how many people are

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Speaker 2: even given the chance to sell out?

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think like partially sort of focusing on

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Speaker 1: the people who are, like the artists selling out is

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Speaker 1: a little like to use the sports metaphor, is a

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: little like the people being like Lebron James makes too

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Speaker 1: much money. If I made that much money, I'd go

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Speaker 1: to work every and it's like, no, he's actually like

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Speaker 1: vastly underpaid.

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Speaker 2: Like when you look at like what he's able to do, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the amount of like money he made. Explore the owners,

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Speaker 2: like your beef is with the owners. Your beef is

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Speaker 2: with the overall system. The struct we're using like the

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01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: faces of the system as like proxies for this.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. So the sellout argument actually dulls

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Speaker 1: our sense of class solidarity. Yeah, that's right. Like it

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Speaker 1: was the same during the writer strike.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, TV writers in a sense or or whatever,

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Speaker 3: all all WJA writers are in a sense overpaid, but

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Speaker 3: we were asking for a percentage of profits. So everything

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Speaker 3: you think the writer doesn't deserve, you are simply saying

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Speaker 3: the CEO. And it's like I disagree with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, so we're back to it.

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Speaker 2: I do think, Yeah, I think there's just some part

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Speaker 2: of us that lost lost track of, like an important

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Speaker 2: idea when we were just like no, everybody go get

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Speaker 2: your bag, and like right now everybody's on the same

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Speaker 2: continuum of trying to get the same bag, and al

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk must be the best of us.

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Speaker 3: Is it just it's just different distractions because the thing

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: is like is Nirvana seller and not the real villain

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Speaker 3: is David Geffen or not even but you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like it's.

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Speaker 1: The label, the labels, the problem someone else sixty deals

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I mean underlying it,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just the idea of like what integrity

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01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: is and how we define it and how much we

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: hold on to it professionally or not, and that's so

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01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: much larger thing. But yeah, yeah, anyways, I love the

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Speaker 1: new Pearl Jam brand tequila. Yeah yeah, yeah, fucking rules

1143
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Speaker 1: Pearl Jam Jam Jam and their cannabis brand too. Jeremy's

1144
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: smoking pretty good in class today. Jeremy smoking weed.

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Speaker 7: That's true.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about a little earlier. I don't remember which

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01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: is to make it, but the number of celebrities is it?

1148
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Speaker 3: Just the people have severely dropped the ball on endorsing

1149
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: weed like it's crazy. This, it's the landscape of weed.

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01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: Marketing should not look the way it looks. No, someone

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Speaker 3: fucking there should not be any marketing. Well sure there's

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Speaker 3: that too, but I'm just saying I.

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Speaker 1: Just gotta go get go back to meeting up in

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: a right aid parking lot like the good old days.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's your that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Miles's weed brand, right and parking lot.

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Speaker 1: It's called it's called I'm in the Blue Durango outside

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Speaker 1: the write a a loose baggy.

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Speaker 3: You do have to hang out with Miles for twenty

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: five minutes to make sure a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit and be like yo, you heard this new outcast

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01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: and I'm playing Bombs over Baghdad on Loop like Bro

1163
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: and National Underground, Thunderpound stems back you add.

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Speaker 3: Listen, someone someone in La needs to open a concept

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: weed store that looks like the back of like a Corolla,

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01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: and you have to sit inside of it, and a

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01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: guy comes in from the.

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Speaker 1: Dispensary. Is the dispensary is a bunch of Accura integras

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01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: and and each one you get in is where the

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Speaker 1: bud tender is. And you just kind of get in

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01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: the patch like closed the door. Yeah, what's up? So

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01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: what you're looking for? Just like some edible something? Yeah?

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01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: All right, cool, cool, cool cool cool? Yeah all right, man,

1174
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: beat it, beat it and then they give you a

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Speaker 1: an eighth of just like shake dirt weed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll get out of my

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Speaker 2: fucking car.

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Speaker 1: This ship looks brown. Was this like vaped before?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, that's just it's good. That's good. Just don't

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Speaker 1: smoke it. They're just don't smoking around here, all right?

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Speaker 2: Andrew T what a pleasure having you? Where can people

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01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: find you?

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01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: Follow you? All that good stuff? I don't know, man,

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01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Andrew Team podcast? Is Yo? This racist our premium shows. Yo,

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Speaker 1: can we live?

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Speaker 3: It's available at Suboptimal pods dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I don't know. I don't know. Is

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Speaker 1: there work media that you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is not gonna be like a difficult stretch,

1191
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: but it's not doing great at the box office.

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed Mickey seventeen.

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01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: Oh there was there's some problems with it, but I

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01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: thought it was fun if a wee bit long for

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: my taste, just because I'm old.

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Speaker 2: Superproducers Victor and Superducer justin we're talking about Mickey seventeen

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Speaker 2: right right when we started the.

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Speaker 3: Call primetime Primetime, Pattinson is a real weird creep vibes

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Speaker 3: and I'm loving it, not even a creep, just like

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Speaker 3: a real real freak, right right, it's been a freak.

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Speaker 2: I got that there's suddenly like three movies that I

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: have to see at the theater before they're going ethus,

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 2: Mickey seventeen and Black Bag is supposed to be good

1204
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: about the weird pitch.

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01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about the weird pitch.

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: But I okay, just since we're doing a video episode,

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01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm both a lefty and I can do this with

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01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: my hands. Whoa, and there's a world where I missed

1209
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: my calling as like a three pitches per game pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you need the weirdo. Just do one

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: weird pitch. Yeah, just a junk ball. Yeah yeah sure yeah. Miles,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? Is there a workI media

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Yeah, if they got as symbols, I'm

1214
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: there at Miles of Gray everywhere. I'll find Jack and

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Speaker 1: I on the basketball podcast Miles and Jack on Mad

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Speaker 1: Boostis finds in the ninety Day Fiance podcast for twenty

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Speaker 1: Day Fiance. There are some tweets that I like. First

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Speaker 1: one is from at What's Charlotte quote tweeted this. It said,

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Speaker 1: just watch the lady get into her car, turn on

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Speaker 1: Shania Twain, hit her vape like ten times, and then

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Speaker 1: reverse directly into the suv behind her in the grocery

1222
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: store parking lot. California is a place. And then Charlotte

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01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: quote you that said Kamala is a private citizen. Now

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Speaker 1: you can't just post stuff like this about her. Another one,

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Speaker 1: This really appeals to me as someone who sucks at

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: bowling at ever ever, Moore's ivy genuinely nothing worse than

1227
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: going bowling with you people who are actually good, like

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: what are you? Why are you doing all that? And

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: then another one because we were talking about drug dealers

1230
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: at Iggy three four two four. Doing drugs is low

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01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: key wizard behavior. Crushing up rocks and crystals, pouring up potions,

1232
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: eating shrooms, smoking plants, fun whimsical way to look at

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Speaker 1: drug affuse. This is like wizard behavior and I'm just

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01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: crushing up rocks, not the original wi yeah yeah, being

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Speaker 1: a rocks.

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Speaker 3: I will say bowl against the most Fred Flintstone ass

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01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 3: for possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I throw a rock at these these pillars

1239
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: bone yeah yeah, all right. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack undersquorel Brandon on Blue Sky at Jack

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Speaker 1: ob the number one I enjoyed a tweet.

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Speaker 2: Mary Louise Kelly from NPR tweeted, starting this fall at

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Speaker 2: Harvard is a limit is eliminating tuition for students whose

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Speaker 2: families make two hundred thousand dollars a year or less.

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Speaker 2: According to the Crimson and Sam has will be tweeted.

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Speaker 1: And not just for one but both of those. You

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,

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01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: and you can find the footnotes, which is where we

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01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode. In those footnotes, we also link off to

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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy and Miles,

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Speaker 1: is there a song that you think people might enjoy it? Yeah,

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: there's this beat. This beat maker Monu Man m O

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Speaker 1: n U m A and a called producer. The track

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Speaker 1: is called Sullen and it's like a very dark kind

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01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: of electronic bee vibe. If it just feels like some

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01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: scene in the future where people are about to do

1260
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: like fucking I don't know, to do a wild bank

1261
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: robbery or some shit. It's like very tense, but it

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: fucking goes. So if look, you're out there, maybe going

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: to a right ed parking lot of Durango, this might

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Speaker 1: be the song for you. This is Sullen by Monu Man.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, we will look onto that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio w ap Apple

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Speaker 1: podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for us this morning, back

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Speaker 2: this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you all then.

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Speaker 1: Well you bye,