1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Should try Intermittent fasting. Yeah, 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: presented by Into It Quick Books. My name is Dan, 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and this coming to you from a room filled with heroes, 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Roosevelt. What is up? Please? Hey? Dan? 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Interment besting. I f people speak highly of it. They 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: didn't kind of a tough sitch for the old juicie 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: old giving up a whole meal and all that stuff. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: I struggle with it. I gotta be honest with you. Well, 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: we know Greg would never do that. He's on a 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: firm time schedule for eating. I mean, we only have 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: so many days left, so many meals left. We're just 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: gonna miss him. Gets to be two and Greg starts twitching. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't peg Greg as as needing it either. It's 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: it's a late It's a weight loss and health management 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: scenario of rom extremely balanced and health thing. Love you though, 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: you know what was that? Mar? Here we go? I 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: could we all could? Hey, that's the season? What do 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: we call its? Body quest? Season? Body Quest? Absolutely, we're 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: all on the body Quest. What do we got coming up? 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Already involved in it? Signed up for gym membership. Gym membership, 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: nice um West. You have a baby on the way, 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: and you have softball season coming, which I know you know. 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: I hope that you'll be a part of Got to 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: get the bob right, got to get the bod tight. 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: All of this is true. Yes, I I do. I 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: have some work to do in the bod tightening department. Greg, 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: You're deeper into your forties now. If you want to 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: continue to do your runs, you just got I am 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: looking to mix it up because I don't know if 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: you've heard about this. Runs are the most boring thing 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I've ever made, and not good for you. The pounding 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: on the pave, too too much of it to stitch 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: on the joints. After a while, it depends on the surface. 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: You can go to a track with a you know, 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: a more sponge of it. Too much of it's bad. 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: A couple of things. We're obviously we are back, well 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: not obviously. I mean there's nothing as a listener that 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: you could tell the difference. We are back from Indianapolis. 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: We're in Los Angeles and it was a great time 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: of the combine. I thought I got the vibe and 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Mark you and I went out with some UH colleagues 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night before we flew out on Thursday, and 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: we were out the night before Tuesday as well. I 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: had never seen Indie so on fire, and I mean, 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: without again putting anybody's name out there. The coaches are flying, 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: You've got scouts, You've got you've got some gms hanging around. 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: People were out and looking to get at it. I 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I talked to one person in the know, little Peter King, 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: that this is the coach's favorite week of the year, 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: is that Indie week? Well at the owners meetings, and 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure this is enjoyable for them too, but they 53 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: often bring their entire families and so there's a lot 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: of extra stuff to do and probably some boundaries put 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: around them on some level. At the combine, I sensed 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: to no undres on anyone, And it's one of those. 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: It was one combine I don't really remember one like 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: this where afterwards we were on a text thread, UH 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: multiple investigative text of our own and what we all 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: got up stories on top of your actually happened. Try 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: to unpack it all. It was pretty dense with um 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: memorable moments, let's put it that way. I had a 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of favorite memories from the third Wednesday Night, um, 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: but the one that stands out to me in the 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: most vivid is We're at the famous bar hangout area 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Prime in Indy and Mark's next to me, and I 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: think I'm kind of in the middle of a conversation 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: or just maybe looking down at my phone, and then 69 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I hear Marco and there's an exact quotes I wrote 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: at my phone exactly at the moment. Let's make some 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: way for my man. And then Mark lands his hand 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: on this guy's shoulder in a really familiar wife very 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: crowded room. So I was doing him a favorite, and 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: then Sean Payton swings his head up and then looks 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: over at Mark. Can be expecting to see someone he 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: knows very well, but my man. What I did was 77 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: and we didn't stop him here helping him. I formed 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: a corridor for him to get crowd you've been in Prime, 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: it is highly annoying that Sean Payton is not six 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: ft ten like some of these people rolling around the room. 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: So it was like, let's make a corridor for the guy. 82 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: I would call it a smile, but it was kind 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: of like a little bit surprise well, I've had three 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: or four interactions with Sean Payton, and they're all about 85 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: that way in various settings. So I think one more. Yeah, 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: that could be a problem. Next time you see you 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: might even say I love you, bro. I've seen several 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: coaches give Mark that look. Well, listen, you only have 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a short amount. As Gregg says, there's only so many 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: days left too uh, eat yogurt at a certain time 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: and talk to not into John Lynch gave you that, 92 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: gave a look perfect a reason in a bathroom walking 93 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: through uh the hotel. But Mark, Mark and I had 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: um Greg, you were out with some other friends West. 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: I think you took it easy on Wednesday night. At 96 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: this point in my life, I'm like a veteran NBA player. 97 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: You just can't expect back to back, back to backs now. 98 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: I I'm on load management. Yeah, no, I get that. 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: I totally got that. But Mark maybe is on some 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: the same age as your performance enhancers, perhaps that he's 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: able to do these back to back Well, Mark has 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: taken quite a bit of time off lately, so may 103 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: he may be like rested and ready to go. What 104 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: does that mean? Well, like Jordan's after he went away, 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: from the game. You had your dalliance with baseball for 106 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: like the last eight months. Yeah, I think it's true. 107 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: And I also think Wes you were you were an 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: All Star. One of the nights I had quite anime 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: with you, so that was a that was the major 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: factor for Yeah. I could not make it the second night, 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: but that Yeah, the night out, we ended up at 112 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: a party that was a more kind of exclusive affair. 113 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: There were in depth conversations with certain head coaches which 114 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: you can't be shared here, but it was. It was 115 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: a good one mine week, fun week. It was got 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: out just in time. I feel like, alright, a lot 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: coming to you guys, the listeners. Tom Cerrn, who was 118 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: super plugged in, great New England sports guy who works 119 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: for NBC Sports Boston. With all this Tom Brady stuff swirling, 120 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to get somebody in the know just to 121 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: have a conversation about what's going on. Uh. This weekend 122 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: and throughout Combine Week brought some reports. ESPN's Jeff Darlington, 123 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: our former colleague, comes to mind that I think Darlington's 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: wording was pretty strong that he'd be surprised if Tom 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Brady's back with the shocked even stronger than I remembered. Uh. 126 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: And Tom Brady's agent was an indie doing the rounds, 127 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: meeting with teams. So you know, I remember kind of 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: throwing it out there to you, Greg back in early November, 129 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: and you dismissed it. And that's not saying that you 130 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: were wrong or right or whatever. But even then I 131 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: said it more just to kind of, you know, get 132 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: you fired up a little bit. But are you surprised 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: where we are now that the kind of tenor I 134 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: dismissed what that he would ever leave that he was 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: leaving like stop it. It It was one of those Greg responses. 136 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: It was more that we didn't know anything. Then I've 137 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of been open that I think it'd been interesting 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: to start a new chapter with him. I I don't know. 139 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone knows. I don't have a Well, 140 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: Tom current is plugged in up there. So we're gonna 141 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: talk to Tom all about it. But before we do that, 142 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: how about some news you're about Carl Terrible. Why would 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: somebody do something like that? Well it was the Jets. 144 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he just couldn't have taken eat him 145 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: up inside atrophe. I know, let's just start with such promise. 146 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Then Donogans modeled seasons over by game three. I'm talking 147 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: about the word of Veronica, his family. That's a catastrophe. 148 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Of course. Hit his episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. I 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: got about forty seven tweets this morning. Did you see 150 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Curb last night? I hadn't, but I went back in 151 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: watched it, And basically the hook of the episode is 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: that one of his golfing buddies, who like Larry David 153 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: in real life Larry on the show, is also a 154 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: big Jets fan, and the guy, because of the Jets 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: uh dysfunction and struggles, ends his life. And Larry um 156 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: knew this, knew why he actually did it, and the 157 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: whole how how deep does it go and how far 158 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: does it show Larry David's Jet fan bona fides. A 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: big part of the end of the episode revolves around 160 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Austin Saverian Jenkins Jenkins touchdown fumble controversy against the Patriots 161 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: about four years ago and a fury about that. So 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: check it out if you're jetsmin or an NFL fan, 163 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: because it's very funny. Somehow that show is still incredible. 164 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: It's the best season in half a decade. Although I 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: cannot get my hbo um device to load and so 166 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: I cannot watch it. I tried to start at forty 167 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: seven times last night and finally gave up WiFi issue. 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Maybe let's get to some NFL news. We'll start with 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, who have a decision to make it. It 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: appears uh Yannick and Gockway he doesn't want to play 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: with the Jags anymore, and he tweeted Monday morning that 172 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: he has no interest in a long term deal in Jacksonville. 173 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: He wrote that the Jaguars are aware of this. Duval 174 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: I love you and gave you guys everything I got. 175 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm thankful for the journey and look forward to continuing 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: my career elsewhere. Now that doesn't mean he's gone, though 177 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, because the team, according to rap sheet, UH 178 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: plans to use the franchise tag on in Gockway, so 179 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: he might not want to be around. But it doesn't 180 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: mean the Jaguars have to trade him, or do they. 181 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: They just went through this with a star defender with 182 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Do they hold the cards or do they 183 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: not hold the cards? Anytime you can wield the franchise 184 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: tag you hold the cards. But this is a franchise 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: with cap issues. This may be one of the three 186 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: or four worst. Uh, they're in maybe worse shaped than 187 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: than all but three or four franchise in the UNFL, 188 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: and maybe even worse than that. They don't have that 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: much talent on the roster and yet they're up against 190 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: the cap even though they have a quarterback making peanuts. 191 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: How does that happen? Well, because they have another quarterback 192 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: not making peanuts, who uh you know he isn't gonna 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: play for them, probably much this year, Nick Foles, who knows, 194 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe they trade him away for nothing. But to your point, West, 195 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: how do you draft? In Gockway in Jalen Ramsey? And 196 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: who am I forgetting about? That was a good Jaguars 197 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: draft pick that they've lost over the last couple of years. 198 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean they've they've won about at the lowest rate 199 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: of any team in the NFL except for one year, 200 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: for seven years, and they haven't developed their homegrown players. 201 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: And it's very rare. You see, like such an obvious 202 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: response from sources that in Gockway tweeted this out this 203 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: morning and literally three minutes later, Adam Schefter had a 204 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: team source from the Jaguars saying they were going to 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: trade him. That was the timeline. It was like that 206 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's that's okay. You know he's saying that. 207 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: But every team out there know that we're gonna use 208 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: this tag because we want to at least trade him. 209 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: They also lost Telvin Smith to a somewhat surprising retirement, 210 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: and you know, they their core is gone, their defense. 211 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: Remember it seems like every preview show we were tracking 212 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: this abominable run defense down the stretch that was giving 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: up like two d and nineteen yards a game. And 214 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, they got rid of some of the people 215 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: making decisions and they kept up Maron and I have 216 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: to wonder what they called up. But when you're hearing 217 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Agaqway say I just don't want to be part of 218 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: this organization, there's a lot of vestiges of old issues. 219 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: And Mike Gerrifilo talked about, you know, Nagakway and the Jaguars, 220 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: the contract and talks if they've ever even been around, 221 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: have been contentious. So you know, I don't know what 222 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: you do unless you're you know, you keep for one year, 223 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: you sign and trade him if you can. But if 224 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: you're him, You're stuck playing in a contract year again 225 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: where you want to go. You're making good money, what 226 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: is it five? But any sort of injury late season 227 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: messes up your future. Alan Robinson was was the guy 228 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: was trying to think of who is the true number 229 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: one receiver who they developed. They can open up some 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: more money by cutting uh A J. Boyer, which might happen, 231 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: but they've had a lot of swinging mss like Andrew Nora, 232 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think he'll be that hard to trade. 233 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: He'll be expensive to get. But if you can trade 234 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Frank Clark on the tag, which is the case what 235 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: happened last year, right, and then if you can trade 236 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: d ford in both of those guys um whether they 237 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: were on the tag or not, for its timing was 238 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: different costs A pick and a big contract in got 239 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: way to me, seems almost exactly in their tier of player, 240 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: and someone's gonna give up I think a second or 241 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: third round pick, whatever it's gonna be, and or more 242 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: than that, I think I think he could get a 243 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: first maybe considering his age he's not yet twenty five 244 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: years old. It's this tricky because you gotta give what 245 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: sixty million guaranteed in in twenty plus a year two. 246 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: So it's just like really expensive. But some some team 247 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: there's too much cap space. I'm gonna say it a 248 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: million times, like, so you gotta spend the cap space 249 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: to use it. I think the one thing that Gregor 250 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: said about the Jaguars that is the seed of so 251 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: many of these issues is when he took Leonard four Nett, 252 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: a running back over their choice of quarterback X Y 253 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: or Z. You could have changed the organization third round 254 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: pick and got way. They've had some swings and misses, 255 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: but he was not one of them. He's actually at 256 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half sacks and four seasons with 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. He's actually closing in on the team sack 258 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: record all time. And you know what, you ain't gonna 259 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: be around much longer. Sounds like in other news speaking 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: of guys and the franchise tag and what's their future, 261 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. A j Green and the Cincinnati Bengals 262 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: seemed to be at an impass. The Bengals currently planned 263 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: to use the franchise tag on the wide receiver. Sources 264 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: tell ESPN's Dan Graziano and Jeremy Fowler the Bengals want 265 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Green and Cincinnati in two thousand twenty UM, and the 266 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: tag again is good scratch because people saying scratch anymore. 267 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's first I've heard scratching along them. 268 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: He would be getting that bag? Is that good? That's 269 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that's Greg, you listened to the hip hop. Give me 270 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: a good term, I mean getting that bag. Just doesn't 271 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: really have that bag, young man, just confusing too well, 272 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: we're just too old for that. I know, it's fine, 273 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: it's fine, you can, you can. The tag is estimated 274 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: to be worth around a young and half million. Uh yeah, 275 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: there's there's got to be a middle ground. You're in 276 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: a weird purgatory. Too young for scratch, too old for 277 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm a man without a country. UM eighteen and a 278 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: half million would be his franchise number. Besides, have until 279 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: July fifteenth to reach a long term deal. You can 280 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: start tagging dudes on Thursday. So this is all happening 281 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: right now. Anyway. Green turns thirty two in July. He 282 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: hasn't played much in two years. Greg makes sense as 283 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: a short term guy for Cincinnati with a new quarterback 284 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: coming in, but again, will he use his leverage to 285 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: try to make a deal to get out of there. 286 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like he won't because he he did say 287 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: publicly he would be fine with the franchise tag earlier. 288 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: And how much does he have a thirty two coming 289 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: off a completely miss Yeah, I think I think that's 290 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: part of it too, And I don't He's never been 291 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: someone who's complained about being on the Bengals or said 292 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: that he's been treated poorly, or says that ownership is 293 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: um a problem. He's He's always said he's liked his 294 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: experience there to be fair. And that offense, I feel 295 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: like we've overhyped some Bengals offenses over the year. No, 296 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: but Joe Burrow mixing green boyd Ross well, Joe Burrow 297 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: can play that. Everything just hinges on that. Yeah, but 298 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm wanting to watch them week one and 299 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: we you know it could be fun. Now. An offensive 300 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: line that gave up that was responsible for more sacks 301 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: than any line in the league. That's a problem. They're 302 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: getting a little healthier along the line too. I I'd 303 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: still I'm assuming the coaching staff is talented. I didn't 304 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: see a hint of that last NI. And they have 305 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: they well because It's like, I want to give them 306 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt because it seemed like every 307 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: a it's the Bengals and you're not getting a lot 308 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: of support hitting the ground as a first year staff. 309 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: To begin with, you lost a j Green all year. 310 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: You you got stuck in an Andy Dalton snail where 311 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: you benched him for someone even more milk toast. So 312 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: it's like, I, they's a young coaching staff of guys 313 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: with not a pedigree of winning, so it's hard to 314 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt. He showed a 315 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: little something very late, but man, it's not writing them off. 316 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Soud What what am I? What am I? You want 317 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: to see the Week one go ahead? I will allow 318 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: you to do that. You can be Bengals Browns. Browns 319 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: aren't getting that, you know, nice Week one on CBS treatment. 320 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't need. I don't need last year might have 321 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: with the CBS five Mark, welcome back, Welcome back to 322 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: my corner from last year. You're back in the ten 323 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: am Sunday window on the West Coast over and over again. 324 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: But I think you know that I don't. I am 325 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: fine with this. Yeah, back to let's prove something before 326 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: we're you know much bally Hood and thrown in front 327 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: of like Tony Room getting massacred in week one total 328 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: the Spirodidas zone. That's fine. Speaking of Andy Dalton, you know, 329 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: this is a crazy year. We will never we could 330 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: work here another ten years. I don't know if the 331 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: offseason will ever feature this many name brand quarterbacks just 332 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: completely kind of either twisting in the wind or there 333 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: being some type of uh, you know, doubt about their 334 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: future with their current team. It's pretty wild, and Dalton 335 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: is one of those names out there. He's obviously not 336 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: long for Cincinnati. Where will he go well? According to 337 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: rap Sheet, three potential suitors for the long time storting 338 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: starring QB have emerged, including the Chicago Bears, the Indianapolis Colts, 339 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: and the New England Patriots. The New England Patriots of 340 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: of course, the Bears um on that on that topic, 341 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: they put their faith behind Mitch Drabinski at the end 342 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: of the season, but uh, as Combine Week rolled on, 343 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: you started to hear the expected whispers that yeah, we're 344 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: not cutting Mitch Drabinsky, but will be damned if he's 345 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: going to be the guy that we live and die 346 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: with in By the way, I asked directly, Matt nag 347 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: you this uh last week? I said, are you going 348 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: to go to the town the whole route? What was 349 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: his response? I don't think he answered me. Didn't get 350 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: an answer. We're only as the enemy. We're only a 351 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: couple of years away from checks um annual. Why can't 352 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: we find out of seven billion people on Earth thirty 353 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: two to play quarterback? And now, for the first time 354 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: since I remember following football, we've got more quarterbacks than 355 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: chairs in the game of musical chimps. There are too 356 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: many starting quarterbacks in the NFL now. I mean, if 357 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: this list of teams that ian through out there, and 358 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: it's early, I don't think Dalton is any of these teams, 359 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, first choice. If he was in Chicago, he'd 360 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: obviously be the backup. If it was with the Cult 361 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: or the Patriots, maybe he's kind of a fallback plan 362 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: depending on what else happens. But it's it's still great 363 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: news for Andy Dalton. I mean, these are great, these 364 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: are good. These are upgrades from the Bengals. His chances 365 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: of starting, you know, meaningful the member games are in 366 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It has gone up because I think he's 367 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to be either a backup or 368 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: or on a team that's competitive. The Patriots thing is weird. 369 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: That's been thrown out there by a number of people. 370 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is wishful thinking from Dalton. 371 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's coming from the Patriots side at 372 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: this point. But I don't know. There's something counterintuitive about 373 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: me that I would like a little like Andy Dalton 374 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: starting the playoff games. I could kind of say Dalton 375 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: fitting with the Patriots. I really could. I could just see. No, 376 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying like it's a four year relationship, but that 377 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: that that's a possibility. Did you say that you felt 378 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: like he would be a backup in Chicago to start 379 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: the year. Yes, because they keep saying week one gets 380 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: through training camp, where that would be the case. Yeah, 381 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: if if he was with Chicago, I think they would 382 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: give Drabinsky that that too. They would give him like 383 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: three weeks to mess it up at the beginning of 384 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: the season. I just my head is filled with visions 385 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: of like that, like critical Week three preseason game where 386 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Dalton goes you know, ten for twelve hundred ninety eight 387 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: with a touchdown and Mitchell Tripicky Trobiski throws two ugly 388 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: interceptions and fumbles the ball. I don't know if we 389 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: need to wait till mid September to make the switch there. Yeah, 390 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel strongly either way. If 391 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: if they go into camp and Trabinsky plays like he 392 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: has the last two years, I think you'd have to 393 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: go into the season with Dalton. It would be I 394 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: would be excited to see. It would be like Andy 395 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: Dalton carrying the hopes of Cincinnati on his back. It's 396 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: like if if they can't win a playoff game, at 397 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: least Andy Dalton, at least someone from those Marvin Lewis teams. 398 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: I could do it. Great job chopping it up just 399 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: now for seconds, because it allowed me to go through 400 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: the whole league and figure out every quarterback that either 401 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: has some uncertainty or you know, doesn't have a job. 402 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: Right now, there's only one division, by my quick um scanning, 403 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: that is unaffected by this whole situation right now. It's 404 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: the NFC West Garoppolo, Russell Wilson, Jard Goff, and Kyler 405 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Murray in Pro football keeps throwing out head lines like that, 406 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy g Tom Brady Buzz will not do. So they 407 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: you want me to put them on the list. All right, 408 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: here's the list. Tom Brady, Andy Dalton, Ryan Tannehill, Jake Brisket, 409 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Derek Carr, Philip Rivers, Dwayne Haskins, 410 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Mitch Robinsky, Matthew Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater, Jamis Winston, Cam Newton, 411 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: all guys with some level of doubt slash in decision. 412 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know, we don't know where they 413 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: could be. That's crazy. And we've got this extra week here. 414 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: This is what's happening this week. We got three shows. 415 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: If there's no new cb A and who knows what 416 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk. It keeps being the same topics over 417 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: and over because the the NFL added a week here 418 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: this offseason very quietly. Dan, you know this. You've been 419 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: talking about pushing that you wanted to keep pushing the 420 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: off season out, like get in the way of other sports. 421 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: But like that's this is like a purgatory week here 422 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: that we normally didn't have. We still have two weeks 423 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: left till free agency, way back free agency. What happened 424 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: right after the combine? Then they added one week and 425 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: now it's two full weeks of just kind of build up, 426 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: and especially because there's no cb A, I think teams 427 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: are just kind of waiting to see what happens with that. 428 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: From another angle, could have done, you know, with a 429 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: with a lower level of news to discuss and kind 430 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: of you know, scurring around to figure out what to 431 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: do with the extra Phillentine could have done two shows. 432 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: Could have been at the Sea today or the and 433 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: I'll throw this out of here again. We talked about before, 434 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: why not have the draft next week and then free 435 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: agency and then just does or just to freegency the 436 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: week after. Well, that goes against building you know, they 437 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: want to own the whole calendar. If anything, I think 438 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: they'd push the draft back further. It isn't just NBA 439 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: fans always want their free agency and draft flipped because 440 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: they go the way that you're suggesting, where the draft 441 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: is before freeency? Where is thatfl fans often want to 442 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: flip the other way. So maybe just people just aren't 443 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: going to be happy no matter NBA heads, They just 444 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: they will not shut up. There was oh, there is 445 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: no off season in the NBA. Look how they're owning 446 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: the sports world. It's all right, Colmdamn, nobody's watching your games? 447 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: WHOA have you seen their ratings? They do have a 448 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: long season, well followed immediately by the drafting free agency. 449 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: They do have like just a long calendar. Let's work 450 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: being developing a regular season of any meaning at all. 451 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: We have a the NBA is struggling on that. We 452 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: have an Anchor Acorman style street fight scheduled with the starters, 453 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: those guys from the NBA. They're just gonna like, whoever wins, 454 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, will decide what's better. And then we have 455 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: to start. Are we suddenly covering the NBA? If we 456 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: if we were to thoroughly beat them down and remove 457 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: to the point where they couldn't function anywhere? I mean, 458 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: what are we? Or didn't it sounds just like a 459 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: lot more work. And that's not what I was thinking. Okay, No, 460 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a like an invasion thing like where 461 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: we would take over the whole. No, that's not what 462 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I say. Just in an old school fight. Okay, Tony Romo, 463 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: that's the big Domino. Forget about all that other stuff. 464 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: He is staying at CBS and he is making some loot. 465 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: That's good works. Give me the loot. Dough green Backs, 466 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: green Backs, Sawbucks, womp them scratch. I don't even get Sawbucks. 467 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone will tweet me. I looked it up 468 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: in a dictionary and this is what it means. Is 469 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: that your Greg voice. No, it's just like you know, 470 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: it's like whenever you had any open questions, you're gonna 471 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: get like people, people tweeting. It's just figured out what's 472 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: like the annoying voice, and it's not. It's not it's 473 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: not aimed at Greg at all. Yeah, cvsn't Tony Romo 474 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: have agreed to a multi year contract worth approximately, wait 475 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: for it, seventeen million dollars per season. Rap Sheep reported 476 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: A bunch of other people had it, including The New 477 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: York Post, which was first to report the news. The deal, Okay, 478 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First of all, it like triples 479 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: his previous salary. It is more money than I think 480 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: he ever made any time as a player. I think 481 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: he averaged nine million a year in his time with 482 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now he's making seventeen. The the thing that 483 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: you could in terms of a comparison point. Similar situation 484 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: with John Madden back in ninety three when he signed 485 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: with Fox and he was making more than any player 486 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: in the league. That's not Romo here, but seventeen million 487 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: is astronomical and it will have fall out on that 488 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: entire industry. You'd imagine, you know, Troy Aikman is probably 489 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna be looking for some money now, Like if Troy, 490 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: what's Troy Aikman making right now? Seven million a year? 491 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: Six million year? Is Tony Romo? I don't think it's 492 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: eleven million dollars better than Troy Aikman West, He's in 493 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: a category by himself. You are, You're worth. You're worth 494 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: what people are the markets willing to pay you. That's well, 495 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: that's that's for sure. And I've read, I've read a 496 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: lot about this, just because the whole thing has been 497 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: interesting to me. And one of the things that worked 498 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: out for him beautifully timing wise, was first of all, 499 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: the brevity of the previous contract and then the fact 500 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: that they are you know, they have the rights negotiations 501 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: coming up for the network, uh to decide who's going 502 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: to cover NFL games, and CBS is a broadcast network, 503 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: as anybody that's following media knows, and just you know, 504 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: if you're alive, the broadcast is no longer king broadcast channels. 505 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: They don't have the the carry and the wealth they 506 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: used to have compared to some of these Cable and 507 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Netflix and Disney and all that stuff. And what CBS 508 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: does here is they make an investment saying, listen, we 509 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: might not be the powerhouse we used to be in 510 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: terms of UH as a network, but we have Tony Romo. 511 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: So the the deal goes through three years at the minimum, 512 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: and then the right steal comes and if they do 513 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: re up and CBS keeps football, it ends up lasting 514 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: I believe ten years in total, at which point I 515 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know, seventeen times ten million. I mean, I don't 516 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: know if it's a bargain, but it's fine, it's not. 517 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: It's more worth it. Well that's true too. But like 518 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: if if you found out that um Tom Selleck was 519 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: making you know, five six million dollars a year on 520 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: blue Bloods on CBS, people would be like, oh, yeah, 521 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense for selling people love blue Bloods. Yeah, 522 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: it's like it's the number one show on TV by fire. 523 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: Blue Bloods is buried, you know. It's like if you 524 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't you wouldn't. Well, I think they season Seven's what 525 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying my point is CBS to where you know 526 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: football Dorset. It's the number one show, so you your 527 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: number one actor. There's even like a half of one 528 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: percent scenario where CBS doesn't get football though, and then 529 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: we have lost Tony Romo to essentially like two or 530 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: three months of golf a year. That would be probably thematic. 531 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Friends actors made what a million in episode? You're telling 532 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: me Romo is not worth a million of game. I'm 533 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: not arguing with you. Michael Thomas is arguing with you know, 534 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: and my what did Michael Thomas? Michael Thomas basically said 535 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: nobody who's calling the game should make more than anybody 536 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: who's playing the games, to which I would say, give 537 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: me a break. You're chasing a bag of wind around 538 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: the park. Why can't a guy talking about you chasing 539 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: a bag of went around around the park make as 540 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: much money as you whatever the market will bear. Is 541 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: what happened, Like, what are we doing? What? None of 542 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: you are brain surgeons. The person announcing the game has 543 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: the ability to take a very dull, boring game and 544 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: add some life and interest to it. That's not so 545 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: there's only one Romo, there's another fifty players probably that 546 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: are making between what Romo makes and whatever the number 547 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: two guy makes. So it's not like that there's a lot. 548 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: You know, Mikey Thomas, come back to us. Are you 549 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: paying attention to the most lucrative route for a post 550 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: playing career it's going into the booth or going to 551 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: a studio and being an analyst. Tony Romo just reset 552 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: the entire market. Wait, when you should be celebrating the 553 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: man when he's forty. Michael Thomas won't feel this way, 554 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Greg Old mark Ingram was on our coverom. I mean, 555 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: it's like they're planning their post careers. There was this 556 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: one report from Andrew Marchan at The New York Post 557 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: that before signing Romo to the full deal, CBS offered 558 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Peyton manning Romo's job. Have you sitting this? CBS did 559 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that preemptively that they were concerned that they weren't gonna 560 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: get it or have to pay too much because of 561 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: the stuff you're talking about money wise that I'm not 562 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: from New York Post, so they thought he might leave 563 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: for ESPN. If he left, they needed to have somebody 564 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: because the number two guy, and we love him, the 565 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: bird and the Beard, but Dan founds he's not He's 566 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: not bringing what Romo brings, So they would have had 567 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: to find someone to make a splash to again make 568 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: them enticing come re uptime. Yes, people have to be 569 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: happy about this. Yeah, if you're a Monday night football too, 570 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: and you're part of that production you have, it is 571 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: discons is disquieting and you know not that this would 572 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: become as a huch shocked. There were some issues with 573 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: that production, we know, but that you know your own 574 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: company is just went all out to try to get 575 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: someone other than you to headline your show. It's just 576 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: not a great feeling in any job, industry, any relationship. 577 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: I can't imagine why you'd want that. Did you say 578 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: you think ESPN is happy about this? No, I'm seeing 579 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: some people that working currently that maybe are thinking they 580 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: would have incumbents will yeah, at to have the job 581 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: that job. Yeah, and yet well, you know, like Mark saying, 582 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: that's a tough situation though, tough sitch because now they 583 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: know you actively were trying to replace them, Like at 584 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: what point, well, at least, but they'd have to know 585 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: that anyone would be going up to Tony Romos in 586 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: a Bruce arean situation where they're like openly, you know, 587 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: talking trash about Jamis Winston. Y're talking about other people. 588 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: But we're all we've documented this almost weekly on the 589 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: show since the end of the season. We're all very 590 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: happy that Tony is at CBS. You stayed together for 591 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the kids and you stay with your your boy, Jimmy Nance. 592 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: Good news for a ball I'm happy for jim was 593 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: one of the biggest winners. Jim Nance finally catches a 594 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: break everything at Vineyard Vines to celebrate Tony Romo's extension. Um, oh, 595 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: this is I just want to hit on this quickly 596 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: just because it's it's funny to me and it does. 597 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: Everyone take everything with a grain of salt when you 598 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: hit all these reports about where people could be going, 599 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: who's talking to who, where someone's likely to land, and 600 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: free agency, because we're still a bit off, how we 601 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: how long until free agency kicks off? Three weeks, two 602 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: week weeks, it's a lot of time that's forever in 603 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: football terms. So yesterday, good example, Jack Conklin, former first 604 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: round pick right tackle of the Titans. He's hitting the 605 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: market and Mike Florio p FT reported that Conklin is 606 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: expected to sign with the Jets. The Jets obviously a 607 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: team that he didn't say expected to be fair to 608 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: uh to world, this is happening now with like a 609 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: game of you know, telephone, and they wrote he's expected. 610 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: They just he said that he had one source that 611 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: one team expected that thought, uh, you know, Conklin was 612 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: going to the Jets. Okay, So Florio had a source 613 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: saying one team thought Conklind was going to New York. 614 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: That sits out there for about three or four hours. 615 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: He gets aggregated across the land. Everyone now assuming that 616 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: Conklin's locked in as the Jets right tackle as they 617 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: begin their rebuild there. And then ESPN is Adam Schefter 618 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: um at about yeah, about two and a half hours 619 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: later reports that impending free agent alright tackle Jack Conklin 620 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: is not expected to sign with the Jets, and not 621 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: only is he So we had the Florio kind of 622 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: report that said he was going to sign with the Jets, 623 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: said one NFL team has been informed that Conklind planned 624 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: to sign with the Jets. Jefters wasn't just like, actually 625 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Conklin's market is still fluid, that nobody know. It was 626 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: actually the report that Conklind has gonna have many suitors, 627 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: but the Jets are not on his list. Yeah, that's 628 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: I read that yesterday. So it was like the exact 629 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: opposite spectrum and it all happened within three hours. Grain 630 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: of salt, keep that in mind, keep your head on 631 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: a swivel. He is not expected to land with the 632 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: offensive line needed Jets. That's what was in Schefter's tweet. 633 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean that feels like also when you're at that 634 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: last day of the combine and I know you can 635 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: just text everyone no problem, but there was a lot 636 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: of information passing to and fro, just because all these 637 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: people were sort of in the same room and corridors. 638 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: Some wild stuff, and especially at night eightning Dan, I 639 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: think we heard some people say some things that were 640 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: slightly jaw dropping, but you can't go do anything with it. 641 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: But Schefter, I think he is doing a good job 642 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: covering bases, you know what I mean, Like, if you're 643 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: Conklin's agent, you cannot have that out there now, no 644 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: matter what, whether he signs with the Jets or not. 645 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: And of course whoever that is doesn't want it out 646 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: there anyways because they want to see what It's still 647 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: too early for that even if the expectation I'm saying, 648 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: if if you're getting really excited about the conflint last Sonna, 649 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 1: don't don't get to this. It's like, I want that 650 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: B minus guard for fifteen million dollars a year. He 651 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: was a great right tackle last year. I I did 652 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: some deep dive. He's he's a very good Yeah, he's 653 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: a very good pass blocker or a very good run blocker, 654 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: but not a very good pass blocker. That's what they said. 655 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: Pf s big mistake by the Titans not giving him 656 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: a fifth year option, which basically has no risk to it. 657 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: And uh but he he came off an a c 658 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: L injury and didn't play well in two eighteen. Lukewarm take, 659 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: and then you know more than we do. Let's be honest. 660 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: Let my lukewarm take, which I don't won't think matters 661 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: anymore because they're changing the fifth year option quite a bit. 662 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: Is that every single player that's ever shown a pulse 663 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: to just get the fifth year option, because because it's 664 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: not guaranteed anyways, you might as well just do. I 665 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: feel like three out of four guys, or maybe four 666 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: out of five guys get it right. Some are just 667 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: such depressing. You don't do that, I said, if you've 668 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: shown a pulse, Conclin was a pro bowler, is rookie 669 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: year he you know, it's a great example your boy 670 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: David and Joeku where it looks like he could go 671 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: either way. Probably will, but he's a perfect example. He 672 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: has shown something, but really not much anybody right, and 673 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: it's it's fair to say that maybe the regime three 674 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: regimes ago, which was only about three and a half 675 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: years ago, might have felt differently, but he probably never 676 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: knows how anyone feels about him. How could you? Uh. Finally, 677 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: in the news, Tom Brady and his boy Julian Edelman, 678 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: We're with Jimmy Fallon, the talk show host at a 679 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: Syracuse North Carolina basketball game over the weekend, and we 680 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: had a viral clip mark, why don't you set this 681 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: up because I think Ricky has some sound as well. 682 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: Take us through the process. Well it's it's you know, 683 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: sideline courtside seats, and you've got, uh, Julian Edelman, who 684 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: looked to me to be roughly suddenly seventeen years older 685 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: than the last time I saw him, with to his left, 686 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy fall On into his right much closer to the 687 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: camera tom Brady, and you'll hear Edelman basically when they 688 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: kind of cut to these guys saying, you know, he's staying, 689 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: he's staying something along those coming back, coming back and 690 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: and and you really like you need to go seek 691 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: this out online too, because the look in the awkward 692 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 1: set in looks on Tom Brady's face over the next 693 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: like ten twelve seconds is uh, it is. And there 694 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: was a lot of you know, even in some articles 695 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: that set out there for twenty four hours, people trying 696 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: to figure out what he actually said. An NFL network 697 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: came to the conclusion that what Tom Brady said at 698 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: the end of all this, which initially was meant to 699 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: be negative, like he's not or whatever he said, he's 700 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: got it, like Edelman's got the news, but not in 701 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: a way that would make you think if you're a 702 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: Patriots fan, Greggy watched it would make you feel comfortable 703 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: it have Yeah, likes to listen to it, But I 704 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: think it's the visual you have to look at two. 705 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: He's coming back, He's coming back. He's got it. So Edelman, 706 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: he's coming back, He's coming back. Some random guy to 707 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Brady goes what did you tell be him? Who's the 708 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Syracuse coaches? He still there? Yes, he has been there 709 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Forrady goes, Brady goes, he's got it. It sounds like 710 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: what some people said he said he's not as he's 711 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: not coming. He did say he's got They isolate the 712 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: and the NFL network guys did a good job like 713 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: boosting up his audio isolating it. It's like almost like 714 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: they led the show with this, and it was great 715 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: because the facial expression is very much I interpreted it 716 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: more as just why you know, I'm I'm on TV. 717 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm aware of it. I Am trying to have no reaction, 718 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: but there's no way to have no and it's just 719 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: like like a grin that with his teeth beard and 720 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: Edelman's reaction was funnier because it was definitely the Tom 721 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: Brady is the Alpha and their relationship reaction and like, oh, 722 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: did I go too far pushing the guy who's like 723 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: made my career in a little sheepish he like he 724 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 1: like crosses his arms just for Christmas. And Jimmy Fallon 725 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: typically knows what he's gonna be saying left and he 726 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: just had no idea what to do with the moment either. 727 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: So it's it's a nice bushel of awkwardness. I like 728 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: this intrigue. Maybe that's rare among Patriots fans. You're you're 729 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: legitimately playing with house money. Even if this goes terribly 730 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: some ways, it's all fun for you and on. I 731 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: would rather Tom Brady, and maybe we can talk about 732 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: this with Tom Curran, who's coming up. But I'd rather 733 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: have Tom Brady struggle in another uniform than struggle with 734 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots. All right, I just don't want to see that. 735 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: Let's that is a good way to get into it. Now, 736 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: Let's get him on the phone. Mr Tom Current, Tom 737 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: are you there, come right here? Yes, I am there. 738 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: He is, Tom Curran, Tom Dan hands is here. Um. 739 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: Whenever we talk about Tom Brady or the Patriots in general. 740 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, Greg's our right hand right hand man when 741 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: it comes to New England stuff, and he will cite 742 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: your name more than anyone else as a quote unquote 743 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: person he trusts to know the situation. And in these 744 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: times we need you, Tom Curran, to give us the 745 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: on the Tom Brady situation. We just finished breaking it 746 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: down the Bruder film style, the Syracuse game. Um, where 747 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: are we at right, now, give us a little insight, 748 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: please help us. Well, let's start right there because we 749 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: now have enhanced aut y. Are you guys good with 750 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: the studio? It was beautiful, okay, So it's just a 751 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: question about Beeheim and he said, uh, he's got it 752 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: or whatever. So we're good on now, all right, we'll 753 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: move on from that. So you're saying he was definitely 754 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: responding to the Beeheim question and the depths there he 755 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: gave to Julian. We're not going to read into that. 756 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: The death Stary gave to Julian was the kind of 757 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: death stare you give you a little brother when you say, 758 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: you know what, all right, I'll go to the game 759 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: with you. It'll be good for your brand. Let's go 760 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: have some um and then you play it along and 761 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: the camera comes over and the little brother can't help himself. 762 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: He does something that makes me say, you know, I 763 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: knew that you would do something that I regretted, and 764 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: Is did and that's not what I was looking for. 765 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: So that's why I thought. Brady said, let's not as in, 766 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: let's not here. I got that. And by the way, 767 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: so far even and Tom, you and I haven't really 768 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: had a chance to to really speak at length together. 769 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: We're not buddies yet, but you've already cleared up a 770 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: major situation. So Greg scouting of you is spot on 771 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: through about ninety seconds. I mean, Tom and I go 772 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: way back. We we worked at multiple places together, and 773 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: anyone that's followed the Tom Brady's career they know Tom 774 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: Curran has been inextricably linked to him ever since Tom current. 775 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: It was a strategic move. He wouldn't say this, but 776 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: early on in the Bledsoe Brady time together, he had 777 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: called Drew Bledsoe a hood ornament. In print in the 778 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: Boston Herald, he would call him Robert Craft's hood ornament, 779 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: a thing he put on his car to distract all 780 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots fans, his contract from everything going on. And 781 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: Tom planted his flag in a in a sixth round 782 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: pick out of Michigan before anyone else did. And these 783 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: players they remember these things. I mean, I'm telling you 784 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: if you watched that training camp in two thousand and one, 785 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: what you would have seen, if you were watching mostly 786 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: would have been inescapable to you too. The skinny kid 787 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: looked way better than the statue from Washington State. You've 788 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: also go ahead. It was an intervention that formed that 789 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: Bilba check well to this day say thank god because 790 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: I was about a week from bench in him. Anyway, 791 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: you've also contributed one of my favorite words to lexicon 792 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: of this podcast. Greg tells us that when he says 793 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: somebody's honking, oh, that's a Tom Current original. I think 794 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: I grabbed that from the Globe, but I actually think 795 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 1: Worrio credited me for coining Swiss army knife. I can't 796 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: imagine that that can't be true. That's nice. I can't 797 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: imagine that I was. He might have heard it from 798 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: me first. But you know how it is up there 799 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. It's things washing shore there late. Um 800 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: So I go way back with Greg and the great 801 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: thing about covering this team, and this is where this 802 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: coverage is different, is there are nuances to covering this team. 803 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: It's hard to get in with individual people, it's hard 804 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: to build the trust, and it's hard to cover this 805 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: team from afar. There are much There are many folks around, 806 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: people who get very exercised when they get on the 807 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: phone and start talking to folks. And I try and 808 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: divide and take out a little bit of the stuff 809 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: that I think is emotional. Hm, the people around Tom 810 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: or around the team or around ownership might say, like, 811 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: right right now, what do you think is emotional? That's 812 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: maybe getting out there because this last week we reached 813 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it'll get even crazier, but we kind 814 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: of reached peak Brady speculation, especially on ESPN with their 815 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: old friend, you know, Jeff Darlington's saying he'd be shocked 816 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: if Brady was back there. And I get along great 817 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: with Jeff, and Jeff is very well plugged in. I 818 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: believe with everything Brady right now. I just have seen 819 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: this movie too many times here in New England, where 820 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: you think something is absolutely, positively definitely gonna happen, and 821 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: you get to a point where you walk a plank 822 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: and it's hard to come back. I wouldn't be stunned 823 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady came back. Nikissario's back, Josh McDaniels came back, 824 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: Beyond Branched came back, Jamie Collins came back. There is 825 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: a pitch and I wrote this today that will be 826 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: made to Tom Brady, and it's not going to necessarily 827 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: revolve around We're gonna get to this player and this 828 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: player and this player in this player, and we're gonna 829 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: pay you this much money and we're going to commit 830 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: to you for this long. The pitch is really going 831 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: to consist of, in my estimation, from what I understand, 832 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Where is it going to be better? 833 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Where are they going to understand what it's like? With 834 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: two minutes left, we're down for and we need to 835 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: manage it. Do these guys know of situational things? Do 836 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: they know what you expected? Even at the same verbi 837 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: each nerosense? Are you going to coach the coaches to 838 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: coach the players? Because those are all the things, Tom, 839 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: that you're gonna encounter out there. It's gonna be very 840 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: frustrating for you at But can they have a conversation 841 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: with him like that? I mean, is that that? Is 842 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: that how you would play that conversation? I mean, I 843 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: feel like I don't got to be the first thing 844 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: i'd say when he's you get there? Yeah, I don't 845 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: think that's the first thing I say? Is what are 846 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: you thinking about? I think it's a Look, there were 847 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: some mistakes we made, as you know, Tom, Um, there's 848 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: things that didn't work out, there's injuries that arose. That's 849 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: all in the past. I think it makes sense forward. 850 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense to pitch the competitive advantage 851 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: of staying in an environment that knows him so well 852 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: and vice versa versus, you know, shifting gears to a 853 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: lesser team that you find out half these NFL teams 854 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: are running away, that would be completely unacceptable to Tom Brady. 855 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: But do you think that Belichick and Robert Kraft are 856 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: on the same page when it comes to the future 857 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady the desire to even have that conversation 858 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: and do whatever it takes to keep him uh from 859 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: getting out of the building. Yes, And I reported that, 860 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: you know in the story that I wrote today that 861 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and the Patriots and the coaching staff is 862 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: very committed to trying to convince Tom Brady to stay in. 863 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: Do they make a two year commitment? I mean, had 864 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: they done the Drew Brees contract last year, we wouldn't 865 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: be here now, two years, fifty million dollars, damn done, 866 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be sitting here. They resisted the two years. 867 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 1: They said, we want to go year to year. That's 868 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: not what Brady wanted. That's why he asked for and 869 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: was given the opportunity to not be franchised because Robert 870 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: Craft didn't want Brady to come back against his will. 871 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: He didn't want him to feel tethered. He didn't think 872 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: that was productive. So that's why we are where we are. 873 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: But Robert Craft also understands that he is running a risk, 874 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: but he does want him, embold and Belichick to do 875 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: what he's always done, which is run the football side 876 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: of things. The notion that Robert Craft interview named on 877 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo isn't accurate. It crew legs, it, crew wings it, 878 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: crew tentacles and it's run wild. It didn't happen, and 879 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: I've been told that directly by Craft that it's a 880 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: bleeping lie. I didn't do that, and I believe them. 881 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: I see so much of what you're saying about the 882 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: benefits of staying in New England, and I really don't 883 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: want to see him go somewhere else and failed because 884 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: the coaching infrastructure isn't there and the players aren't there. 885 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 1: But what about the idea. There are very few athletes 886 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: in history I'm thinking, like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan's 887 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: on the level of Tom Brady's career where there are 888 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: multiple peaks once you think he's done. He just keeps 889 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: peeking and peeking and peaking. There are only a handful 890 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: of guys in the history of sports like that. What 891 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: about the idea of Tom Brady creating a new challenge 892 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: for himself, because there's no challenge left that exists. But 893 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: the difference with those guys is they were either an 894 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: individual sports or team sports, in which it was much 895 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 1: small dollar for Tom to orchestrate that in a different place. 896 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: To win part of culture on a fifty three or 897 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: sixty man roster, when you get through all the people 898 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 1: who come in and out and on a coaching staff, 899 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: is much more difficult to do. That's why to me, 900 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: Tennessee makes the most sense, because there's a culture in place, 901 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: and there's he's pre sold in terms of what Mike 902 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: Grabel will say, just listen to him and just watch 903 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: what he does, and this is what we want. So 904 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: I think that's an advantage. But I think it's much 905 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: harder for him to do that. But I do think 906 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,479 Speaker 1: that he's enthused by that in and for a large 907 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: part of he'd go to the line and say, what 908 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: am I gonna do on this play? I don't know 909 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: if he's going to be in the right spot. I 910 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be in the right spot. 911 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: I have no tight end. As as far as last year, 912 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen over there at 913 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: left tackle. I'm probably gonna end up having to throw 914 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: this ball away. And he did that a league leading 915 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: by a large amount five times. He didn't want to 916 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: go through that again this year. I was amazed. Part 917 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: of the story, you know, the Syracuse game that we 918 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: didn't even mention, which is that he was facetiming with 919 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: with raybel rabel at In in Indianapolis certainly did not 920 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: hesitate to talk about Brady, to talk about his friendship, 921 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: to talk about how many challenges he thought Brady presented 922 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: as a playoff opponent, Like if if he's trying to 923 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: use that as a negotiating thing with Ryan Tannehill, I 924 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: mean to me, it's working and and they're like FaceTime 925 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: and these are forty something your old men. First of all, 926 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: do you guys does anyone FaceTime with with other men? 927 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't like all the time. I'd rather not 928 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 1: discuss my private life. I'm just saying, who facetimes except 929 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: for like with their kids? Or their wife. I didn't know. 930 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: That's the thing. The fact that he's facetiming with Rabel 931 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: on a random February day with Julian Edelman, that seems significant. 932 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. They live a different life than we do, fellas, 933 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: they live different right, But I do think one thing 934 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: that you mentioned there, in terms of the campering and 935 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: the notion that Mike Rabel is doing a lot of eyebrows, 936 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: one up my unders standing as the Patriots are quote 937 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: in a story I wrote recently, not going to be 938 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: quote super vigilant about the tampering for two reasons. One, 939 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: they don't feel their competition with other teams is financially based. 940 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: They're selling situation, not a paycheck. Even though Tom Brady 941 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get nickel and dimed again because he 942 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: feels he has been. They're more about what's the situation 943 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: that you have here as opposed to other places. Secondarily, 944 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: when they sit down with him to eventually talk about money, 945 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: they don't want him to be of a mind that 946 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what's out there yet. I have no 947 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: idea what's going to go on. I need to go 948 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: to free agency to find these things out. So there 949 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: is an advantage to that. So while I think that 950 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: it does raise eyebrows, I've been told the Patriots are 951 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: not going to be chasing tampering charges all over the planet, alright. 952 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: Percent chance. By the way, I find that our employer 953 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: is often selling a situation versus a paycheck as well, 954 00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: So I can understand very often part in the storm 955 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: percent chance that Tom is wearing not Tom current Tom 956 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: Brady is wearing a different uniform week one. Oh, you're 957 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: gonna love to see answer. All right, Well still, I mean, 958 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: and I guess my my last question Tom for you is, 959 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: since you have had, you know, a level headed viewpoint 960 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: on this, I think we all think and uh, are 961 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: you at all surprised where it is right now compared 962 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: to where you thought it would have been, let's say, 963 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: in October when there started to be some percolation about 964 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: his struggles and his contract was up. Are you surprised 965 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: that where we're here right now, where it feels fifty 966 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: fifty and you're getting these reports out there, or is 967 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 1: this something you kind of saw coming? It was always 968 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: gonna be a little um messy this time of year 969 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: with the contract coming up. No, I knew it was 970 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: gonna look exactly like this, probably actually worse because in 971 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: August and late July before they were able to get 972 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: the contract done, um, you know, Brady expected a longer amendment. 973 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 1: When he didn't get it, he really and the folks 974 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: around him were like, okay, you know what funds fun. 975 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: But now we have no players around him. He's gonna 976 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: go out there. Things aren't gonna look good. And then 977 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: when the Antonio Brown situation came and went, I don't 978 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: think Brady was psyched about it. I really don't think 979 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was psyched about the way that went down either. 980 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: That became further agitation for Brady, and the season bore 981 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: it out. He ended up taking the brunt of the 982 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: blame for well, he's slipped and he's forty two, you know, 983 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: and so many of those games. Yeah, he he did 984 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: show less pocket poison patience than in past years, but 985 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 1: the arm strength there, the pocket mobility is still there. 986 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen a physical dip from him. 987 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: So most people, if you asked ten people, I think 988 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 1: that nine would say, yeah, he's slipping. I think that 989 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: as that season wore on, he wasn't that psyched about that. 990 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: That he had to bear the brunt of it, and 991 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: he had to stand there and you could see that 992 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: in his face. So I kind of felt that it 993 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: was going to trend this way um the whole time. 994 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: What fascinates me is when push comes to shove over 995 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: the next ten days, fifteen days, whether the Patriots will 996 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: be able to exert upon him and convince him that, look, 997 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: this is the best place for you. It always has been, 998 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: it always will be. We want you here. Do you 999 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: really think his pocket mobility hasn't slipped at all? Pocket mobility? No, 1000 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: he is using to me his ability to elude the rush. Duckers, 1001 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: shoulders move around people. Yeah, Like I think it's significantly 1002 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: Ted Carris in front of him instead of David Andrews 1003 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 1: who had Marshall Newhouse for a chunk of the season 1004 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: instead of trend round Um. Jack Mason didn't have as 1005 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: good as season. It was a circus. Yeah. I think 1006 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: I think Brady Brady could be getting motivation from his 1007 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,439 Speaker 1: his old pal Tom Curran, because a lot of people 1008 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: in Tom Curran spot, Uh, he's got his radio show, 1009 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: he's got his TV show. It's like they give up 1010 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: the writing part of it. We we've seen it with 1011 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: our careers. Our writing is dropped off, but Curran's out there, 1012 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: He's still spinning gems. I'm just telling you want to 1013 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: read about Tom's great you get a Christmas card from 1014 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady? No, okay, no, you could read Tom's latest column, 1015 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: the one that he's referenced on this show today at 1016 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston dot com slast Patriots, Patriots, and you 1017 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: could also follow him on Twitter. Tom E Curran, uh 1018 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: see U R R A. And I just did I 1019 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: don't know, I fell through the cracks. I didn't. I 1020 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: didn't have a follow. Now I bang a follow now, Tom, 1021 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: that's up to you. If you want to fall back 1022 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: the old user, that's your call totally. But this is 1023 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: the real offseason drama we're tracking. The old user is 1024 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: Dan Hansis. Do you want to start FaceTime and on 1025 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: the regular? Absolutely? Tom, thanks for joining us and bringing 1026 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: some clarity to a unclear situation. All right, well, thankfully 1027 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 1: having me, guys, thank you, thank you. All right, there 1028 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 1: he goes great. You know, sometimes you have a guest 1029 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: on for the first time and you get you immediately 1030 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: since they you know, get along with our style of 1031 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: you know, our game. A little mirth, a little fun, 1032 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: some analysis in there. Tom E. Kern, he's a he's 1033 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: a legitimately funny guy. Like there's a lot of sports 1034 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: writers that think they're that try to be funny. I 1035 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: can be guilty of this as well. But but in 1036 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: the room, Tom Kern, I'm saying, yeah, if if he's 1037 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: if he's at a table of people, he's he's gonna 1038 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: be He's gonna be on in it. Um. Okay, good stuff, guys, 1039 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: good show. Two more shows this week. We'll have a 1040 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday program where we are efforting that's a that's a 1041 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: corpo term. We're efforting to have someone to talk a 1042 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: little combine, uh and get a little breakdown from what 1043 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: happened in Indie this past week. And then remember Friday, 1044 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: and I think I locked her in on the show, 1045 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: but there's no way Colleen remembers that. By now, we 1046 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: will have the we will name the Connie Fox theme song. 1047 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 1: If Colleen is in the house and available on the show. 1048 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: We will have our top five finalists and then we 1049 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: will select it. We have to actually, Ricky Hollywood, we 1050 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: have to kind of get on this and figure out 1051 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: the whole voting process and which songs formally are the 1052 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: five finalists. We gotta do some leg work ahead of 1053 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: Friday's show to do this, right. I'm just thinking about this. 1054 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: It's been so long since we heard some we might 1055 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: have to go to six. I mean we might have 1056 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: to just like break a ruler to alright. A couple 1057 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 1: of those early ones were gems. Absolutely, Mark, Absolutely, you 1058 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: want to be the last heard. I think we we 1059 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: We went out with a bang with that one song 1060 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: that everyone's tweeting about, and then those early ones, some 1061 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: of them a plug just forgotten. So you gotta we 1062 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: won't forget that just correctly. In fact, well, how about 1063 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: what I'm out when we really listened to the ones 1064 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: that we saw as finalists. Potentially we'll listen to the 1065 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: latest ones first. So the last one we hear is 1066 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: the first one we heard. It's gonna be hard for 1067 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 1: Greg to maintain the energy he can for that last one. 1068 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: Never seen him so happy, And at first I think 1069 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: even I was saying that that wouldn't have been a finalist. 1070 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,720 Speaker 1: But since it's not, let's listen to it again and again. 1071 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,959 Speaker 1: But I think ultimately that's uh, that's telling us something 1072 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: about this song that it to be part of that. Oh, 1073 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: now I see your game. You want to get that 1074 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: in as the sixth finalist. Even though it has a 1075 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: little bit of a dig at the face it also 1076 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: has it was more a praiseworthy of Colleen. Right, all 1077 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: due respect to Gonzo, A part of it was that 1078 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: he would be cast aside in an NFL player would 1079 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 1: then marry Connie. I think, yeah, it was a cast 1080 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: system scenario where Gonzo was being viewed as not really 1081 00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: worthy of what Colleen has flowered into its bed. I 1082 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,760 Speaker 1: don't agree with it was fun word play that happens, 1083 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: but it's all it is a little funny to me 1084 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: that remember you you got on your horse and you 1085 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: were like, how dare that? One man say so a 1086 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: joke of Colleen's expense and his song uh from the 1087 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: first round of songs, and then this guy he is 1088 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: causing trouble within Colleen's family structure, and you're like, it's cool, yeah, 1089 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Colleen's the starry consistency that even Gonzo knows 1090 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: that well. I mean, you're you're making declarative statements about 1091 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: someone else's family. Again, I did ask Colleen if Gonzo 1092 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: is aware of this competition. She said he has no idea, 1093 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: which is kind of funny the more you think about it, 1094 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: because John is in so many of these songs. Better 1095 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: for him not to know what's happening, I would I 1096 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: would suggest, all right, let's go. Thanks for listening to 1097 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: me Around the NFL Podcast presented by Into It Quick Books, 1098 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: official sponsor of the NFL. Stan Hands is signing off 1099 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:58,439 Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, the Maleman, the Old Boss, Hollywood behind 1100 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: the Glass, and thank you again to Tom all Right 1101 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: for joining us do when they Hey, what's coming on? Guys? Hey, 1102 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: guys Time