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Speaker 1: Just eliminate all expectations. Yeah, you get all your outs

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Speaker 2: We've got Rangers starter Kamar Rocker with us right now

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Speaker 3: Good to see you. How is camp going for you?

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Speaker 2: And have you reached the point where you're like, we're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: And it's starting to get good here in a second,

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Speaker 5: and I'm excited to see what this season holds.

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Speaker 6: Are you in the rotation?

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Speaker 5: Uh, that's the goal where we're trying our best, but

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Speaker 5: got to earn your spot here.

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Speaker 6: Oh come now, come on, Like, what do you mean

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Speaker 5: Got to keep working for it. There's some things that

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Speaker 6: Have they had any conversations with you? No?

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Speaker 4: I think it's all about the terminal performance at this point.

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Speaker 6: Are you and Jack led are going to go in

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Speaker 6: a cage match and whenever it comes out makes a rotation.

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Speaker 5: I hope both of us get to have a nice

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Speaker 6: Well, come on, come on. All right, So I saw

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Speaker 6: And then I saw I've seen you throw rehabs a

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Speaker 4: I think it plays.

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Speaker 5: I think if I keep it in the zone and

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Speaker 4: Best pitch definitely curveball, slider?

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Speaker 6: Which one in general? So you throw two different ones? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I just like to spin it. I think you're too big.

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 4: Try to protect that, protect a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Protect the heater. What does that mean? What does that mean?

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Speaker 8: Because we talk about it all the time, like this

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Speaker 7: What does that mean for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, keep all the weapons on the table.

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Speaker 5: You never want to show one thing or think that

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Speaker 4: So kind of work around your strengths.

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Speaker 2: Here, Comar, can you tell me about the pitching lab

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Speaker 2: that the Rangers have. I feel like that's like a

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Speaker 4: What is that?

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Speaker 3: What really is there that helps you get better as

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Speaker 5: I think I think, I mean, I don't think they

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Speaker 4: Everything you can ask for.

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Speaker 7: Is that what you need? Do you need it?

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Speaker 5: Like I said, right, I think I think there's times

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Speaker 4: Me personally, I try to keep it as simple as possible.

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Speaker 6: You're released. Right. They don't have anything like that for

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Speaker 6: It's just so advancer pictures?

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Speaker 5: I think I think it goes back to, like, I mean,

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Speaker 8: Okay, I like that you were talking about spinning the ball.

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Speaker 6: First of all, let me see like a I mean,

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Speaker 6: The only time you ever used spider tack was when

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Speaker 6: Tim Corbin had him in Lighter use it in Vandy, Right,

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Speaker 6: he's like, oh, watch, you guys can become first rounders.

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Speaker 3: Spoken like a true gator.

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Speaker 6: I want to know, because I've been to Nashville a

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Speaker 5: I guess some people don't, but man, Roby hockey, talk,

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Speaker 6: Like, good for you, listen, listen. The thing about Vandy

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Speaker 6: He's done the whole travel ball c Every team had

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Speaker 4: Yeah they had.

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Speaker 6: Every team has one of those. Every team has. You know,

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Speaker 4: And I think I think winning just makes it better.

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Speaker 5: But when I was getting recruited, like I love colors

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Speaker 8: Do you think there needs to be less minor leagues

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Speaker 8: because of schools like Vanderbilt? Do you think Vandy can

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 5: I was never given any money or things like that.

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Speaker 5: But the the way the way the miners, the way

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Speaker 6: How much would you have made? How much would you

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Speaker 5: Sophomore year was COVID year for me, and then I

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. I mean, why would you go to the

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Speaker 6: a Vandy go to Broadway every night, right, Man, I'm man,

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Speaker 3: Go back you were you didn't go to college.

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Speaker 6: AJ, That's what I'm saying. I want to go back.

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Speaker 5: Once it once it went Price Sonny, and then you

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Speaker 7: How many big league camps. Have you gone to now?

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Speaker 5: This is my second one I went. I went to

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Speaker 8: Okay, so last year you were in minor league camp,

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Speaker 8: you're hearing okay, yeah, all this stuff about hey, they

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Speaker 8: Now that you're in it and you're hearing the talk

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Speaker 8: a World Series? Are you like, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 8: just trying to make a team.

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Speaker 4: Uh No, I think it's very real.

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Speaker 5: I think anytime you have a chance to win, and

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Speaker 5: and playing for something. But I'll never forget rehabbing TJ

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Speaker 6: Who's your guy here?

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Speaker 7: To?

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Speaker 4: Grom G I love watching the grom But.

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Speaker 6: If you have a question, who's your guy you go to?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you got you got good names here, You've

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Speaker 6: Could you hit?

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Speaker 4: I'm swearing that sliders and definitely if it's out my eyes. Okay.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm learning to These catchers are smart,

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Speaker 2: Well comar, it was awesome to talk to you. Really

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Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, big fans, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We've got Jack lighter on foul territory.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you having fun in camp, especially now

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Speaker 6: Would you punch four in a row? Yesterday? I did?

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Speaker 6: So I asked him, I said, if you guys it's

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Speaker 8: Well, it doesn't have to be a cage fight like fighting.

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Speaker 7: Like what could you beat? What could you beat? Kamarin?

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Speaker 1: I think we're both bad at golf, but I think

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Speaker 8: It'd be like a pentathlon. You could have a you

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Speaker 8: You can, you can mess up your money maker.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point, uh, jack question for you. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's very involved, as he should be.

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Speaker 1: He's uh, he's had every every role in my life.

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Speaker 6: Here's way smarter. He went to Vanderbil. He didn't go

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Speaker 4: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He didn't go to college. He went to Penn State Online.

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Speaker 6: You know i' must say I went to Penn State

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Speaker 6: he kind of tries to do the same thing. But

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Speaker 6: there's also smart ass kids and smart ass coaches on

443
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Speaker 6: other teams and they'll say something, you know, my son

444
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Speaker 6: strikes out and they're like, you're not as good as

445
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Speaker 6: your dad, right, So it's it's refreshing for me to

446
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Speaker 6: hear somebody say, you know, I just got rid of

447
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Speaker 6: expectations and was myself. That's that's a huge step.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it if you use it right, it

449
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Speaker 1: fuels you. It fuels you to work really hard when

450
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Speaker 1: nobody's watching. And uh, you want to prove everyone in

451
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Speaker 1: yourself right for where you can where you can get to.

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Speaker 7: What's a successful year for you? This year?

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Speaker 1: I want to make a I want to make an

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Speaker 1: impact on the big league team at a at a

455
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Speaker 1: high level. And uh, I I'm very familiar with you know,

456
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Speaker 1: what what my potential could be, and I want to

457
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Speaker 1: I want to reach that or and help the team

458
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Speaker 1: win a lot of games. I want to, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: I want to embrace the good and the bad and

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Speaker 1: uh not be so so hard on myself, and that's

461
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Speaker 1: one of my goals this year is to uh enjoy it,

462
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Speaker 1: enjoy it, have fun, continue to work hard like I

463
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Speaker 1: always do, and uh hopefully compete at a high level

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Speaker 1: and win a lot of games.

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Speaker 6: Starter Reliever.

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Speaker 4: I see myself as a starter, Ferris, Ferris.

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Speaker 7: But you see yourself as a starter.

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Speaker 8: And we kind of had this discussion about with Marcus Stroman,

469
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Speaker 8: like he's been established as a starter.

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Speaker 7: You're not established yet.

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Speaker 8: If they call you you're in triple A. You've been starting,

472
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Speaker 8: You've been making every one of your starts, and they're like, hey,

473
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Speaker 8: we need you in a pen in the big leagues.

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Speaker 8: Is that a knock to a pitcher's ego? Is that

475
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Speaker 8: something that you're like, it doesn't matter, it's the big leagues,

476
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Speaker 8: the team's winning, We're gonna win the West. Or is

477
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Speaker 8: there still like that like ego in there that you're saying,

478
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Speaker 8: I know I can still start.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll always think I can start. I think

480
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Speaker 1: the way my brain is wired and my routine and

481
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Speaker 1: how much I've fallen in love with the process and

482
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Speaker 1: the routine. I think I am a starter with my mindset.

483
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Speaker 1: Being in the bullpen last year. In September, I had

484
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Speaker 1: to adjust being with guys like Chaf and Robertson and Yates.

485
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Speaker 1: They were very helpful and like, why are you doing

486
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Speaker 1: all this stuff?

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Speaker 4: You're in the.

488
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Speaker 1: Bullpen now you don't have to do all Like the

489
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Speaker 1: routines are not the same. So I mean, I'm going

490
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Speaker 1: to attack any role that I have with with everything

491
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Speaker 1: I've got and whatever the team thinks is best. That's

492
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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do and try to help them win

493
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Speaker 1: a lot of games. But uh yeah, it's it's a

494
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Speaker 1: different routine, it's a different mindset, it's a different process,

495
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Speaker 1: and that's all part of it. But I will always

496
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Speaker 1: think that I'm I'm a starter, even if you know

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Speaker 1: I spend years as a reliever, I'll think I can

498
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Speaker 1: do the uh you know, Michael King, uh Lugo, whoever else,

499
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Speaker 1: guys who have who have done the switch back.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm a starter.

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Speaker 8: You ever been starstruck? Obviously big league big league kids.

502
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Speaker 8: You know they're hanging around people there, you know, their

503
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Speaker 8: lockers next to Aaron Judge when their dad was in

504
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Speaker 8: the like. Have you ever been starstruck recently or like

505
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Speaker 8: at any point in you know, in your recent life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I was little, it was often

507
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Speaker 1: being in the clubhouses. Uh, my dad was just my dad,

508
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Speaker 1: but I was a big baseball fan. So being around

509
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Speaker 1: guys like Jeter, a Rod, Sheffield, Cano, it was uh

510
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Speaker 1: those were those were some starstruck moments. But uh, recently,

511
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say so.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean we talked about Kumar honestly, seen my senior

514
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 1: year of high school, he was, you know, mister mister everything.

515
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Speaker 1: At at Vanderbilt freshman year he did, he did it all.

516
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Speaker 1: He won the national championship. Uh, one of the best

517
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Speaker 1: pitchers in the country. And then I come in my

518
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: freshman year, which was his sophomore year, and uh, to me,

519
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Speaker 1: he was he was a stud, he was a star.

520
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Speaker 1: And now he's now he's Kumar, he's my teammate. And

521
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Speaker 1: it's kind of the same way with de Gram, Schurezer

522
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Speaker 1: last year, Yates, Seeger, everybody, all these all these guys

523
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Speaker 1: with big names that that uh, you know, I went

524
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Speaker 1: through middle school, high school, and they're they're they're doing

525
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Speaker 1: it at a high level, winning sy Young's it's uh,

526
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Speaker 1: you come in and and you do quickly see like

527
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Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's doing the same thing. Everybody's attacking their routine,

528
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Speaker 1: their process. Some guys just have it more figured out

529
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Speaker 1: than others. But uh, yeah, I would say, initially it's starstruck,

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Speaker 1: and then they quickly become teammates.

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Speaker 6: Your dad. So I'm gonna ask about Comar this again.

532
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Speaker 6: We've talked to him already. I want to know he

533
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Speaker 6: had an answer for us. If you guys were in

534
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Speaker 6: the nil world right now, how much would you two

535
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Speaker 6: have made? He had an answer, He had an answer.

536
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's all all fagazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's thrown out different numbers, and I've heard that there's

540
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Speaker 1: you know, middle Relievers in the SEC making six hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and I've also heard that some of it's

542
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Speaker 1: not true. So I don't know, But uh, that would

543
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Speaker 1: have been an interesting thing.

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Speaker 6: You say, you guys would have been in the millions

545
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Speaker 6: you two together.

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Speaker 1: I would uh, from what I've heard, I would say

547
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Speaker 1: that's probably a possibility.

548
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Speaker 6: Here. How did you guys not win? In twenty one

549
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Speaker 6: my daughter goes to Misissippi State and that's like the

550
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Speaker 6: only thing they've ever won in there. The history of

551
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Speaker 6: Mississippi State is that championship. So how did you guys

552
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Speaker 6: not win? I mean, I know it's baseball, but I

553
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Speaker 6: mean you look at you the team you guys had

554
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Speaker 6: that year. How did you guys know win? We?

555
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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we just ran out of gas.

556
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Speaker 1: I mean it's baseball. It's a three game series. I

557
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: know we won game one and then kind of got

558
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Speaker 1: our got our ass kicked in game two. In game three,

559
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Speaker 1: it wasn't much of a game either one, but I

560
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Speaker 1: mean that was that was memorable either way. I pitched

561
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Speaker 1: that first game and shove too. I remember when when

562
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State made it, they beat Texas and there were

563
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Speaker 1: videos of like school buses full of people in Starkville

564
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Speaker 1: loading up to go to Omaha. And Vandy's got a

565
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Speaker 1: great fan base, but it's a much smaller school. So

566
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Speaker 1: we had about, you know, maybe two thousand people in

567
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Speaker 1: the stands for that game, and there were twenty three

568
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Speaker 1: thousand Misissippi State fans. It felt like I was at

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Speaker 1: an SEC football game and I was on the mound

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Speaker 1: for it. So it was cool.

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Speaker 8: You guys, I mean elite program, elite baseball program. You

572
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Speaker 8: went to the highest final game and everything. I went

573
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Speaker 8: to a small Division III school and I still have

574
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Speaker 8: friends on the baseball team that I keep up with.

575
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Speaker 8: We meet with all the time. Who's some dudes.

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Speaker 7: Oh you can't hear it? Okay, well I'll tell.

577
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Speaker 6: You said still in touch with? Who do you keep

578
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Speaker 6: in touch with?

579
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Speaker 4: From college?

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Speaker 6: From college or high school?

581
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Speaker 7: From college?

582
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Speaker 6: Both college and volpey? I'm assuming Volpi.

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Speaker 1: Uh. We had our high school USA team in eighteen

584
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Speaker 1: U which was I mean, looking back ten years from

585
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Speaker 1: now is going to be something crazy and Bobby Witt,

586
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Speaker 1: c j Abrams, Riley Green, Dylan Cruz, Pete Crow, Armstrong,

587
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Speaker 1: Corbyn Carroll, Volpi, it's uh, and the list goes on.

588
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Speaker 1: There were Drew Romo, like twelve big leaguers on that

589
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: team as high schoolers. So some of those guys for

590
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Speaker 1: sure college. I mean that that was my most memorable time.

591
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Speaker 1: And I love Vanderbilt.

592
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Speaker 6: I go back.

593
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Speaker 1: I work out at Vanderbilt in the off season, so

594
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Speaker 1: I still I'm around the guys, and we have a

595
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Speaker 1: good group of probably fifteen twenty pro guys that work

596
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Speaker 1: out of Vandy, and I live there in Nashville, so

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Speaker 1: I keep I try to keep in touch with a

598
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Speaker 1: lot of people and then obviously just high schoo buddies

599
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Speaker 1: and everything else.

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Speaker 6: So does your dad ever come to you and we're

601
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Speaker 6: letting you go after this? Is your dad ever come

602
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Speaker 6: to you and said just throw the cutter? Because I mean,

603
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Speaker 6: he all you do is cutters in right? So has

604
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Speaker 6: you ever just said, look, Jack, just just know the

605
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Speaker 6: cutter to the lefties every pitch. You'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: He loves he loves the cutter, of course, and I've

607
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Speaker 1: messed around with cutters. It's it's a comfortable pitch, kind

608
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: of just offset of four seam and throw fastball. And

609
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Speaker 1: I still consider that one of the pitches I have.

610
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Speaker 1: I haven't thrown one in the game yet this spring,

611
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Speaker 1: but I'll bring it out and catch play, throw one

612
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Speaker 1: in a bullpen. It's just a it's a comfortable pitch,

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Speaker 1: and I do love the cutters. So who knows there

614
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Speaker 1: will be a point in my career maybe I maybe

615
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Speaker 1: I hit a wall with velocity and start start moving

616
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Speaker 1: the ball around a little more, sink it, cut it

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Speaker 1: and kind of do the crad be.

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Speaker 6: So proud of you if you threw a cutter and

619
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Speaker 6: you broke up out Like finally, my son has.

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Speaker 1: Return yes, yes he would.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jack, if you can hear, appreciate the time man.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it, guys, Thank you and Jack later. Texas Rangers