1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're learning 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: how to correctly pronounce Lily Johannes's Dutch club Ijax not 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: a Jacks, Stupid American. Thanks to regular listen Hagi Litzer 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: for the heads up. It's Wednesday, November thirteenth, and on 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: today's show, we're gonna get you ready for the second 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: season of the Pro Women's Hockey League with some p 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: WHL one oh one led by Alex our resident hockey expert, 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: plus the Juicy Three, the Citrus Squad, and Accidental Dollporn. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this welcome back slices. 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today. In college soccer, 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the sixty four team NCUABLEA D one bracket is set. 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Thirty teams automatically qualified for the twenty twenty four NC 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Double Attorney aka the College Cup via their conference championship, 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: while thirty four programs received at large bids. Duke, Southern cal, 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Florida State, and Mississippi State all received number one seeds 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: in the tournament. FSU are the defending champs. They beat 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Stanford five to one last season, securing the program's second 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: national championship in three years and fourth in program history. 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: To win the title, you gotta win six games. The 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: first round gets underway this weekend, and the tournament continues 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: till the national championship game Monday, December ninth. Will link 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: to the full bracket and schedule in the show notes. 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: In College Basketball News, USC sophomore sensation Juju Watkins has 24 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: a docu series about to drop. The series, titled On 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: the Rise, Juju Watkins explores the Watts Natives connection to 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: her family and to the southern Los Angeles community she 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: grew up in, plus how both play a role in 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the success she's seen on and off the hardwood. Watkins, 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: who calls herself an introvert, told The Hollywood Reporter that 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the series will quote give people more insight into who 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: I am, my values, and my story because I take 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: so much pride in it end quote. Per Boardroom. She's 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: the first women's college hooper to star in and executive 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: produce her own show. The other executive producers are Rich 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Paul's Clutch Sports, Lebron James Uninterrupted, and four four forty. 36 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: The series premieers on November twenty third at three pm 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Eastern on NBC, right before USC squares off with Notre 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Dame More College hoops News. Onward State, a student run 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: news outlet at Penn State University, published a story on 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Monday detailing allegations of player harassment and trauma by Penn 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: State head coach Carolyn Keeger. Before I dig into this, 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know there will be 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: some mentions of suicide, Okay. So, Onward State conducted interviews 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: with thirteen of Keeger's former players from Marquette, Keeger's previous 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: coaching stop, and from Penn State. Three players spoke positively 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: about Keeger, and two assistant coaches did as well, but 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: the other ten players described playing for her as one 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: of the worst experiences of their lives and that quote 49 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: the culture Keeger instituted in her programs hurt many players' 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: mental health, made multiple players suicidal, and incorporated aspects of racism, 51 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: body shaming, bullying, and more end quote. Five players spoke 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: on the record with Onward State, and eight others spoke 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: but requested anonymity. Some cited fear of retribution from Keeger. 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: Several players said they left their respective programs because of 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Keeger's behavior. Former Marquette player Danielle King said quote in 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: my senior year, I was dealing with depressive thoughts and 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: suicidal thoughts. I was talking to Keeger about it, and 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: she dismissed it. And she basically talked me down to 59 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: go into seeing the student counselor or the councilor on 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: campus or whatever. And she was like, I just think 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: you need to go to the gym more and basically 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: shamed me in saying my work ethic was the reason 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: why I was depressed. End quote. Former Penn State player 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Jada Travasio Green told Onward State that after tearing an 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: ACL for the second time, taking a medical disqualification, and 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: dealing with her father's terminal illness, she said in part 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: that Keeger was incredibly understanding and supportive and quote made 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: me feel like I was still important and a valued 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: member of the team, even though I was not always around. 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: End quote. A PSU athletic spokesperson released the following statement 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: about the allegations. Quote, Penn State and Penn State Athletics 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: take seriously any allegations of misconduct, and any reports are 73 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: thoroughly reviewed. In addition, in her collegiate Athletics conducts annual 74 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: student athletes surveys of its programs, as well as exit 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: interviews with student athletes and staff members departing their respective 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: sport programs. Based on direct feedback from student athletes, coach 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Keeger and the women's basketball staff provide a positive and 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: inclusive environment with a focus on their development on and 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: off the basketball court. End quote. We'll link to Onward 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: State's full story in our show notes and keep you 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: updated on this as more reporting comes out to WNBA News. 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: The Chicago Sky introduced new head coach Tyler Marsh on Tuesday, 83 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: and there are some cute shots of the former Las 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Vegas Ace's assistant walking into wind Trust Arena holding his 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: two year old son in his arms as they checked 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: out the JumboTron with his face on it. We'll link 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: to those in our show notes. When asked about his 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: biggest off season priority for the Sky, Marsh said, quote, shooting. 89 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: We want shooting and lots of it. End quote. Sky 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Forward in front of the show, Elizabeth Williams was sitting 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: next to Marsha at the presser. She has not attempted 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: a single three point shot in her ten season WNBA career, 93 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: but Marsh turned to her and said quote Liz, We're 94 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: going to get you shooting some threes too. End quote. 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: In Hockey News. On Tuesday, the PWHL announced the launch 96 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: of PWHL Media House, a new media venture created to 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: boost conversation and content around women's hockey while also putting 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: players in the spotlight. As part of PWHL Media House, 99 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: the league acquired the jockson Jills podcast, featuring co host 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Tessa Bonham and Julia Toscherry. The first episode of season 101 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: two went live on Tuesday, detailing more about the POD's 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: new home, reactions to the recent Jersey releases, and more. 103 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: Hockey fans be sure to subscribe. Also check out iHeart 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Women's Sports new pod mom Sue Puck with Madison and 105 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Anya Packer. Much more on the PWHL later in the show. 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: In Golf News, WNBA Rookie of the Year, Caitlin Clark 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: is hitting the links tomorrow at the Onica LPGA Pro 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Am in bel Air, Florida, presented by Gainbridge. She scheduled 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the tee off at seven am Eastern. She's going to 110 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: compete alongside world number one Nelly cor and golf legend 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: Anica Sorenstam. The Golf Channel is going to offer highlights, 112 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: live look ins, and preview coverage of the pro am, 113 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: including a live stream of Clark's warm up range session 114 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: featured on various social media channels and in round walk 115 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: and talk with her and more. The LPGA Tour event 116 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: at Theonico runs Tomorrow through Sunday, the seventeenth. Last year, 117 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: American Lily Avoo took home the trophy I mentioned Gambridge. 118 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: There they joined the Women's Sports Foundation and the Athlete 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Partnership Platform Parody for the second annual Parity Week by Gainbridge, 120 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: a nationwide movement intended to celebrate and amplify girls and women. 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: So Gainbridge, Parody and the Women's Sports Foundation awarded a 122 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: total of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in grants 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: to twenty one organizations that support girls and women through 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: athletics and education. And in addition to the grants, Parody 125 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: Week includes two anchor women's sports events sponsored by Gainbridge, 126 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: the AICA Tournament I just told you about and the 127 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: Billy Jean Kingcup by Gainbridge, which Alex and I told 128 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: you will be attending next week. And by the way, 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: the BJK Cup Finals begin today in Malaga, Spain, with 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: twelve countries battling it out on the hard courts the 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: last women's tennis trophy of the season. Canada, Australia, Checchia 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: and Italy have each earned bys, while the US and 133 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: seven other teams will play matches this week looking to 134 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: earnest spot in the quarterfinals. The US plays Slovakia tomorrow. 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break when we come back. 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Alex gets you up to speed ahead of the second 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: season of the PWHL. Welcome back Slices. It's time for 138 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a little PWHL one oh one, which means it's time 139 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: for Alex sixplains. 140 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: I have been waiting for this moment my whole life, 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: and I guarantee that you are going to learn something new, 142 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: whether you have been watching women's hockey since day one 143 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: or are new to the PWHL. 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: All right now, how many PWHL teams are there? 145 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: There are currently six teams in the PWHL. You've got 146 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: three in KNA the Toronto Scepters, Ottawa Charge and Montreal Victoire, 147 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: plus three in the US the Minnesota Frost, Boston Ish 148 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: Fleet and the New York Ish Sirens. And as Sarah 149 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: learned while hosting a panel at the espnW summit last month. 150 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: The league is planning to expand to include another two 151 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: teams as early as next season. 152 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Hold up, hold up, why the ish for New York 153 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: and Boston? 154 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in season one, New York played most of 155 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: its home games in Connecticut, and this year they're playing 156 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: at the Prudential Center in New Jersey, two places that 157 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: are arguably not in New York. Meanwhile, the Boston Fleet 158 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: play in Lowell, which is very much not Boston. That said, 159 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: as someone who lives closer to Loll than Boston, I'm 160 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: not complaining. 161 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: So that's cool and all. But when did the PWHL. 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: Start just under a year ago? Season one officially began 163 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: on January first, twenty twenty four, and it wrapped up 164 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: in June. Season two going to be a little bit longer. 165 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: Training camps are already underway right now and games start 166 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: on November thirtieth. The regular season goes until May third, 167 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: followed by the playoffs. 168 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Wowsers. So, if the PWHL is only one year old, 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I guess that means women's pro hockey is pretty new, right. 170 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: You could not be more wrong. So let's break it down, 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: because people have been trying to make women's pro hockey 172 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: happen for longer than me and Miish have been alive, 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: and the result has been a whole lot of acronym soup. 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: A few years ago I did a deep dive on 175 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: the history of women's pro hockey, and here's the abridge version. 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: Let's go back to nineteen eighty eight. It was the 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: year that Doppler radar was invented. The Summer and Winter 178 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: Olympics were still being held. In the same year, Wekleyfield 179 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: in Chicago got lights and held its first ever night game. 180 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: What a time to be alive. And in New York, 181 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: a guy named Donald Wilson wanted to start a twenty 182 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: sixteen women's pro hockey league that would pay players one 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a week. And remember this is nineteen eighty 184 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: eight money. So let's just set the scene here. Nineteen 185 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: eighty eight, two years before the first ever women's hockey 186 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: World Championship and ten years before women's hockey would be 187 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: added to the Olympics. So if we're being totally honest, 188 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: even as fans of women's sports, this idea was pretty 189 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: bonkers and the league, which would have been called the 190 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: United States Professional Hockey League, never got off the ground. 191 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: So let's fast forward ten years later. It's nineteen ninety eight, 192 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: and ahead of the debut of women's hockey at the Olympics, 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: a guy named Ed Saunders tried to launch another league. Now, 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: the idea actually got a lot of news coverage and 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: top players in the world were super interested in it, 196 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: but without tangible support from either USA Hockey or the NHL, 197 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: the idea didn't go anywhere, just given how much it 198 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: costs to operate a league. But even then, people knew 199 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: that women's hockey was a really good idea. It's probably 200 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: why the NHL trademarked the name WNHL all the way 201 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety eight, even if they have never 202 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: made moves to actually launch the league itself. So for 203 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: the next two decades or so, we're talking early two thousands, 204 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: there weren't very many opportunities to make money playing hockey 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: after gradu waiting from college, Lots of players had to 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: pay to keep playing, whether it was for ice time 207 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: or travel costs. And we're talking about the best players 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: in the world. Even national team members were struggling to 209 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: make ends meet. During the late nineties and early two thousands, 210 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: the landscape was pretty bleak. One of the only post 211 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: grad leagues was the NWHL. 212 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: Wait the NWHL, I thought that came around in twenty fifteen. 213 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: Nope, but also yes, the first NWHL was founded in 214 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, and that one was based in Canada, 215 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: but most players in that league had to pay to play. Eventually, 216 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: that NWHL folded in two thousand and seven, but just 217 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: a few months later, the CWHL that one stands for 218 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Canadian Women's Hockey League was born. I told you we 219 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: were making acronym soup today. Now that was a nonprofit 220 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: organization and players still weren't getting paid. But to be clear, 221 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: the hockey was really good. The talent was strong, but 222 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: so many players weren't able to make the financial side 223 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: of things work that they had to stop playing entirely. 224 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: The landscape started to change in twenty fifteen, when for 225 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: the second time, the NWHL was founded. This is the 226 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: one that you're talking about, Sarah. This time it was 227 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: a league in the United States, and it made history 228 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: as the first women's hockey league to pay players. Lots 229 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: of the biggest names in the game quickly signed on, 230 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: including Hillary Knight, who led the Boston Pride to the 231 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: inaugural NWHL title in twenty sixteen. But behind the scenes 232 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: things were pretty suss. The NWHL ended up slashing player 233 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: salaries midway through season two, and players were dealing with 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: really unprofessional conditions. They didn't have basic equipment, facilities, medical staff. 235 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: During most of the league's history, they were only making 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: a couple thousand dollars each season. There was a players association, 237 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: but it wasn't unionized, and it took until season eight 238 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: for players to receive health insurance, so for nearly everyone involved, 239 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: hockey still wasn't their full time job, not the players, 240 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: not coaches, not staff, and because of that, teams could 241 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: only practice a couple times a week in play games 242 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: on the weekend. The best players in the world were 243 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: pretty much split between the NWHL and the US and 244 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: the CWHL in Canada, but in twenty nineteen, the CWHL 245 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: announced that it was shutting down rather than just signing 246 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: on with the NWHL. Though in May of that year, 247 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: about two hundred players announced that they would be sitting 248 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: out the upcoming season instead of playing in the NWHL 249 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: that led to the creation of a new organization, the PWHPA, 250 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: a group of players mostly from Canada and the US 251 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: who wanted to see something new built. The years that 252 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: followed were honestly pretty strange, because the NWHL continued to 253 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: chug along. It rebranded as the PHF and brought in 254 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: new ownership, which resulted in some solid improvements to pay, 255 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: benefits and resources. All while hundreds of players in the 256 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: PWHPA refused to play in the league. And while plenty 257 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: of narratives pitted the players of the PWHPA against players 258 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,239 Speaker 2: of the PHF, reality was of course far more complicated. 259 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: What everyone involved wanted was better pay, playing conditions, and resources. 260 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: It all came down to a difference in vision approach, 261 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: and for players of the PWHPA that meant withholding their labor. 262 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: That brings us to twenty twenty two, when it was 263 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: reported that the PWHPA had entered an agreement with Billy 264 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: Jean King Enterprises and the Mark Walter Group to explore 265 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: the launch of a new professional women's hockey league, and 266 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: just over a year later it was made official. During 267 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: the course of a very tumultuous couple of days last year, 268 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: players from the PWHPA voted to ratify a collective bargaining 269 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: agreement after months of negotiating, and at the same time 270 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: ownership of the new league. The PWHL announced that they 271 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: had bought out the PHF. The timeline for all of 272 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: this was pretty wild. Reminder, this was the summer of 273 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three when the league announced its plans to 274 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: launch in January of twenty twenty four, and six months 275 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: later they did just that. 276 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: Alex, you are a proper hockey historian. That was really impressive. 277 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: But what I really want to know is who are 278 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: the stars of the PWHL. 279 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: Where to start. First of all, it's great finally seeing 280 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: all of these players playing together under one league. So 281 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: of course, you've got the player who could probably get 282 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: elected as the next Prime Minister of Canada. That's Marie 283 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: Philippe Pulen. She's the leader of the veteran group of players, 284 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: Hillary Knight, Kendall Quinschofield, Natalie Spooner, Brian Jenner. Now, these 285 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: players have been through it during their post grad careers 286 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: and they became stars of the game, mostly while playing 287 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: for their respective national teams, because that was the most 288 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: consistent way for fans to watch women's hockey for most 289 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: of the last decade. But there is so much young 290 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: talent in this league that has been fun to watch. 291 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: You've got Minnesota's rookie duo now sophomore duo of Gray 292 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: Sumwinkle and Taylor Heisei Boston Selina Mueller, who honestly kind 293 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: of feels like a vet given that she's been around 294 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: the international game for over a decade. And then you've 295 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: got this year's number one draft pick, Sarah Fillier, who 296 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: will play her rookie year for New York. 297 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so, if we're coming in looking for the underdog 298 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: and the favorite who's won a championship in the PWHL, Minnesota, Baby. 299 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: They won the inaugural p WHL title, defeating Boston in 300 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: a thrilling five game series. 301 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: All Right, I feel a little dumb, but I need 302 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: you to tell me what are the rules? 303 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: All Right? You've got all the basic hockey rules, off sides, 304 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: icing face offs, but the PWHL also has a few 305 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: innovative rules too. And the refs wear purple stripes on 306 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: their jerseys, not orange. Kind of hard to see sometimes, 307 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: but I love the innovation. You've also got the jail 308 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: break rule. Here's how it works. Normally in hockey. If 309 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Team A gets a penalty, team B goes on the 310 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: power play, so it's five on four. If Team B scores, 311 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: the power play ends and it goes back to five 312 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: on five. But if Team A scores, nothing happens. They 313 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: still play shorthanded for the remainder of the penalty. But 314 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: the PWHL decided to change things up. If the short 315 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: handed team scores, the player in the penalty box gets 316 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: to go free, hence the jail break name. The idea 317 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: behind the rule change is to incentivize teams to be 318 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: more aggressive on the penalty kill. And let's also talk 319 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: body contact real quick. There is a misconception that women's 320 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: talk he is a non contact sport, though anyone who's 321 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: seen a single minute of a game will quickly learn 322 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: that that is not accurate. However, the PWHL does allow 323 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: way more contact than previous women's hockey leagues. We're going 324 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: to go to the rules here at number fifty two, 325 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: which says contact is allowed when quote there is a 326 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: clear intention of playing the puck or attempting to gain 327 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: possession of the puck. 328 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: More contact. I'm in. I'm feeling good about this league. 329 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: How and where can I watch Alex? 330 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: Season two starts on November thirtieth. Full broadcast plans haven't 331 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: been announced yet for season two, so I'll keep you posted. 332 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: Something tells me we're going to put him in the 333 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: show notes when we get him. Thanks, Alex, love it. 334 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: I learned a ton. I'm so excited for this upcoming season. 335 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to some faves from the league 336 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: for sure as we as we get going on season 337 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: two as well, we got to take another break when 338 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: we come back. We love slices who do their homework. 339 00:17:53,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: That's coming up next, Welcome back. We want to give 340 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: a shout out to certified citrusy Slice Pamela Mudway, who 341 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: sent me a contest winning recipe for black bean soup 342 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: and whose wife suggested that our little trio me Alex 343 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: and mesh Aka Sam could go by the name Samsonite, 344 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: packing knowledge and fun into every journey. Cute, but it 345 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: will always make me think of dumb and dumber Samsonite. 346 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: I was way off. Ryan Driscoll also wrote in and 347 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: suggested seeds they're at the center of all the slices. Peals. 348 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: They hug all the slices and hold us together. Honestly, 349 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: seeds are a bit Ryan, but peels is cute. I 350 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: like that one. Another regular listener, alis Obradovich not only 351 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: answered my call for soup recipes with one for lentil 352 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: soup and one for Greek Trahana soup, which I've never 353 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: heard of, but I'm excited to try. She also sent 354 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: us some name suggestions, and a few of the ones 355 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: we liked are the Triple Play, the Citrus Squad, Orange 356 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Zest Trio, the Squeeze, and the Juicy Three. Actually, that 357 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: last one might be dangerous. We'll stay away for the 358 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Squeeze though, that's got a nice ring to it, and 359 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: Triple Play is super cute. We'll have to keep brainstorming. 360 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Alyssa also let us know what she's doing to improve 361 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: her little corner of the world too. She said she's 362 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: helping college students understand and contextualize the election, which is 363 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: her actual job, but it still counts for sure. Supporting 364 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: college hoops, specifically number twenty three ranked Illinois and screaming 365 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: into the void. 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