WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: ‘Risky’ Business?

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Talking Cowboys. We are live from the Star

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<v Speaker 4>in Frisco, Texas. Welcome, Welcome everybody. It is a Talking Tuesday. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking on a Tuesday. I'm here with Patrick No C. Walker,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm here with Nick Eatman. It is Talking Cowboys storyline

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<v Speaker 4>Wenda Turn.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I always have to wait for the

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<v Speaker 5>the intro.

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<v Speaker 6>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to turn?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't not really, Yeah, you never got to turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's a thing for us. I like this.

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<v Speaker 6>I like, actually, you know, talking to other people, I

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<v Speaker 6>mean talk to in the studio. In the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>So you don't want to bring Rob he can have

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<v Speaker 4>a spot. You know there's four chairs.

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<v Speaker 7>R P.

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<v Speaker 4>Rob Phillips, No, Robin Vegas, Rob Vegas he said one

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<v Speaker 4>for Ali.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, whenever you say Rob, my brain is all going

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<v Speaker 5>to Rob. Yeah, that's that's King. Oh, Rob from Vegas.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna have some things to say tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>No, yeah really yeah you think so, Yeah, we'll see,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's got If.

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<v Speaker 5>You have Rob from Vegas here, you'd have to like

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<v Speaker 5>keep the censor button like right, yeah, just over your fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Well we're gonna be ready for tomorrow on that like that.

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<v Speaker 8>But anyways, that's that's for Tomorrow's.

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<v Speaker 4>That's for tomorrow, guys. Obviously, we had the of course

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<v Speaker 4>new head coach Brian Schottenheimer, that was announced. We had

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<v Speaker 4>the productory press conference yesterday. But I kind of want

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<v Speaker 4>to bury the lead here. Obviously that happened, we have

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<v Speaker 4>the press conference to talk about, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>want to walk through what the last week has looked

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<v Speaker 4>like for you guys, obviously as staff riders of Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>covers dot com. Obviously it's the editor for Dallas Cobies

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<v Speaker 4>dot Com. I kind of want to walk through the

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<v Speaker 4>timeline and basically get a sense of what to last

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<v Speaker 4>week look like leading up to this decision.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'll say this, it looks it's it's it starts

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<v Speaker 8>early and it ends late, so you know, you're not.

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<v Speaker 8>Just because you're not at your desk working doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 8>you're not working and grinding. And if you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>our guys worked hard. Our guys worked hard and trying

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<v Speaker 8>to chase this thing down. I know, Patrick's a big

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<v Speaker 8>part of it. I get more text messages from Patrick, Tommy,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, you you know, as far as things that

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<v Speaker 8>we see and all that, And that's that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Off season to me is so much harder than the

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<v Speaker 8>regular season because the regular season is like, all right,

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<v Speaker 8>you know exactly what's coming. There's gonna be press conference tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 8>there's gonna be locker room, you get that. But this

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<v Speaker 8>is like maybe there's something, maybe there's not. You're kind

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<v Speaker 8>of your head's always on the switch.

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<v Speaker 4>There are more things important than a clock.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That, I mean, it's just facts.

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<v Speaker 8>That and that is true. That was a good answer

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<v Speaker 8>because that I don't know if I love the question,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know, I mean just because it was like

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<v Speaker 8>there's no timeline on things like that. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 8>the thing about the off season. You're just you don't

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<v Speaker 8>know when things are happening, but you just always have

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<v Speaker 8>to stay ready. And I think you know, so I'm

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<v Speaker 8>talking about the process, Park Patrick, you talk about the

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<v Speaker 8>actual his actual question of like how things developed, how

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<v Speaker 8>we got here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I mean it was unexpected.

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, it was unexpected, wildly unexpected. And had him

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<v Speaker 5>on the list, Yeah yeah, I did have them on

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<v Speaker 5>the list of twenty candidates, and I know some kind

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<v Speaker 5>of looked at that and said, you know, no, no shot,

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<v Speaker 5>even though I didn't list him as a front runner

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<v Speaker 5>as far as internally, internally, I listed Mike Zimmer as

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<v Speaker 5>the front runner. But then with that being said, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's up to Zim to decide that he wants to

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<v Speaker 5>continue coaching. And right now, as we have the conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>the expectation is that Zimmer is going to probably retire

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<v Speaker 5>from the NFL. But that being said, he won't be

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<v Speaker 5>back as DC because we expect Matt Eberfluss will reunite

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<v Speaker 5>with the Cowboys, and that news could drop at any moment.

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<v Speaker 5>To your point, it could come out of the left field,

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<v Speaker 5>right field, center field. But the process was I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously it led with the informal conversations with Dion and

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<v Speaker 5>then of course, unfortunately that colored the remainder of the

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<v Speaker 5>search because everyone then was expecting the hoping the Dion

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<v Speaker 5>thing would would be a thing. But as we sat

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<v Speaker 5>here on this panel and said, it was never really

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<v Speaker 5>a thing, right. There was some interest there, but it

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have enough traction to make sense. That's why there

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<v Speaker 5>was no formal interview. So then they move on from that.

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<v Speaker 5>For the most part, you get Leslie Fraser in here,

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<v Speaker 5>Robert Sala, Kellen Moore, and everybody was panicking because they

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<v Speaker 5>thought Kellen Moore would be returning. They have questions about

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<v Speaker 5>is he a leader of men and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So spent the entirety of the weekend after Kellen Moore's

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<v Speaker 5>virtual interview basically watching Twitter coordinate Kellen Moore as the

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<v Speaker 5>head coach and then what have On Monday, out of

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<v Speaker 5>the darkness comes that horse, Brian Schottenheimer, and basically they

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<v Speaker 5>never really looked back from there. Pete Carroll had a

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<v Speaker 5>very real chance, but they couldn't agree to terms, and

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<v Speaker 5>so here we are. So it's a definitely a roller

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<v Speaker 5>coaster there, and then you talk about the assistant coach

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<v Speaker 5>is starting to leave. Robert Prince Bones fossil Al Harris,

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<v Speaker 5>who I spoke with and he told me that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's agreed to terms with the Chicago Bears. So and

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<v Speaker 5>this is just the beginning. We're not done. They have

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<v Speaker 5>an entire staff to build around him now. So tight

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<v Speaker 5>ends coach is Lundawell is going to be back in

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<v Speaker 5>the building hopefully, So offensive line coach clipped to the

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<v Speaker 5>defensive side of the ball. Assuming Matt eber Flus is in,

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<v Speaker 5>who's he putting this linebacker's culture? Is he going to

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<v Speaker 5>try to handle that particular task because he's done it before, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So Scott Tozine reporter Scott Tozen is out reported least

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<v Speaker 5>choosing to not return. So to Nick Eaman's point, man,

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<v Speaker 5>there's so much that makes it more difficult this offseason

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<v Speaker 5>because we don't have guaranteed access. So we Nick myself, Tommy, Josh,

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<v Speaker 5>we have to track down this information. It's not coming

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<v Speaker 5>to us like on a Wednesday in a press conference,

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<v Speaker 5>on a Thursday in the locker room. We gotta make

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<v Speaker 5>you go find that. Yeah, so we're still working in

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys. They crossed the first finish line and choosing

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<v Speaker 5>the head coach, but there are several more finish lines

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<v Speaker 5>that need to be crossed.

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<v Speaker 4>Selfishly, is there a sense of relief now that we

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<v Speaker 4>have a head coach.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean selfishly is a good is a good answer.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a good word because I get asked a lot,

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<v Speaker 8>like during the season, you know, the last few games

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<v Speaker 8>of the year, do you want a new coach you

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<v Speaker 8>think McCarthy should come back? Selfishly, I hate coaching searches

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<v Speaker 8>for everything that Patrick just said, I don't like them.

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<v Speaker 8>Now are they necessary in this case?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Probably, And it seems like it seems like it was

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<v Speaker 8>so because it's it's it's tough to deal with because

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<v Speaker 8>everybody now with the media has got it, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>source here, this has happened.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I heard several different onesers like oh it's done, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Shill is done. You know, it was several different names

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<v Speaker 4>that it's like okay, and then you're starting to cope

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<v Speaker 4>with that ye throughout the day, and then two hours

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<v Speaker 4>later you hear another thing. So at that point you

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<v Speaker 4>kind of.

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<v Speaker 8>I did include you when I said Patrick and Tommy,

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't, y, Yeah, because if I if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 8>I think Josh actually told me the news. I'll just

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<v Speaker 8>leave it at that. It's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, I kind of have a

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<v Speaker 4>source here and there. But yeah, the tiny But like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, the news was kind of changing each and

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<v Speaker 4>every day.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and we were.

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<v Speaker 4>And as a fan, first me, I had to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of cope with decisions that I didn't necessarily love right

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<v Speaker 4>off of that. But now we're here, Now we have

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<v Speaker 4>the name picked. It's official. We had the introductory press

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<v Speaker 4>conference yesterday, which I want to get into. Obviously it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It happened on a of course. It was late Friday

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<v Speaker 4>night when we got to announce it, and now Monday

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<v Speaker 4>morning when we have the press conference, big deal. Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people in the the upstairs, the big,

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<v Speaker 4>big hall. As he said, what was the I'm mature

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<v Speaker 4>in the room before the press conference versus after, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I know what you're seventy.

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<v Speaker 6>Well it actually wasn't. It was more like eighty five.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>The sunlight, we needed curtains and that place up there,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, he said.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, I'm going to say he's getting hot.

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<v Speaker 8>But anyway, now I know what you're saying and we're

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<v Speaker 8>jacking around here. I guess this is what would give

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<v Speaker 8>is talking about love it. Yeah, let's go now, he

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<v Speaker 8>if you could win a press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>He won it.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, if that's possible, that's not the wins that he

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<v Speaker 8>that has to happen here. I understand that. But but

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<v Speaker 8>he did a really good job. I you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>whole leader of men can I think, well, we already

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<v Speaker 8>know that. I mean, we already saw the guys coming up,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, and and and Dak is the leader of that.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of guys too, a lot of coaches as well,

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<v Speaker 8>coaches that have already been signed, some coaches probably still

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<v Speaker 8>looking for jobs.

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<v Speaker 6>You know. Some of that could be like I'm here

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<v Speaker 6>for grats.

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<v Speaker 8>But but and still though, I just think he's got

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<v Speaker 8>people's respect, especially the players, and I think he got

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of the media's respect to it.

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<v Speaker 6>And it sounds like some of the fans too. Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>all sounds.

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<v Speaker 8>Good until you lose a game or you see what

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<v Speaker 8>happens and you lose the fourth quarter, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and you make a bad decision, and then then the

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<v Speaker 8>bullets will be flying. But as it stands right now,

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<v Speaker 8>I thought he did as good as he could do

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<v Speaker 8>to change some perception.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with that because a lot of fans that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm speaking with and they're reaching out to me social media.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm getting a common thread in that they did not

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<v Speaker 5>realize how impressed they would be with Schottenheimer as far

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<v Speaker 5>as his ability to speak and his ability to go

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<v Speaker 5>the extra mileth So, for example, take the question that

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<v Speaker 5>I posed to him. That was not an easy question.

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<v Speaker 5>I was basically asking him straightforward. I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>how are you going to modernize this offense? What is

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<v Speaker 5>tell us what this looks like? He not only answered,

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<v Speaker 5>But then what impress me even more was when he

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<v Speaker 5>had provided a sufficient answer for me, but then said,

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<v Speaker 5>let me explain more. Yes, by all means do so.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a very high football like you guy, right

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<v Speaker 5>he's born and bred in football, talk about his dad

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<v Speaker 5>and his just family, the Schottenheimer's. But as much as

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<v Speaker 5>we have rightful concerns that we talked about on the

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<v Speaker 5>podcast yesterday, the fact that this is his first NFL

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<v Speaker 5>head coaching job, the fact that we don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>Schottenheimer's offense looks like because he wasn't the one calling plays,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll get to those concerns. But as far as

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<v Speaker 5>winning the press conference, I believe he absolutely did that.

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<v Speaker 5>He's won a lot of fans over just this me

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<v Speaker 5>looking at the fandom and the temperature warmed up to him.

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<v Speaker 5>As far as the fans are concerned, Leader of men

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<v Speaker 5>was never a question and definitely solidarity there. You see

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<v Speaker 5>brock Hoffman, de Marveion over shown, you see Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 5>you see the entirety of the strength and conditioning staff.

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<v Speaker 5>You see coaches that are not even under contracts sitting

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<v Speaker 5>there just showing the solidarity.

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<v Speaker 8>Would like, I was curious on what you thought about

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<v Speaker 8>Shottenheimer as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, this is something that's been brought a lot

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<v Speaker 4>on Cowboys storyline, and as a fan, I listen all

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<v Speaker 4>the time, and you're right about a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 4>about quite a lot of things. But one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things that kind of always pops up for me is

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<v Speaker 4>like the interest is always going to be there. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're you know, a fan, you know you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get upset when we don't make it to the super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl and that cycle is going to start repeating. It's

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<v Speaker 4>it's I mean, at this point, it's it is a

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<v Speaker 4>thirty year drought. There is kind of an abusive relationship

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<v Speaker 4>going on with being with loving the Cowboys, but I mean, seriously,

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's toxic toxic. And then when we come

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<v Speaker 4>back around to training camp, I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>get a lot of people that are excited again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to see a lot of the changes that

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<v Speaker 4>are made, hopefully in free agency and the draft, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we always that there are always draft picks

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<v Speaker 4>that you can be excited about when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys because you have Will mclan in charge in

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<v Speaker 4>that respect.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a good point, and I feel like you need

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<v Speaker 8>to build from the inside out, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 8>that the Zach Martin pick was such a great pick,

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<v Speaker 8>and that you can get another pick like that at twelve,

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<v Speaker 8>get a guard tackle that's gonna be great. But the

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<v Speaker 8>excitement from ox Star if you get Ashtroon genty or

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<v Speaker 8>or a boom a player or even Missouri receiver, which

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not a huge fan of.

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<v Speaker 4>At that spot, but playmakers, playmaker and difference makers and

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<v Speaker 4>more building blocks. Because you saw the building blocks there yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Those at the press conference. You saw the guys that

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be here for a long time, that

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be able to build this team around

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<v Speaker 4>you that you want. Right as far as what he said,

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<v Speaker 4>I was very impressed. I liked what he said, and

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<v Speaker 4>I guess kind of what gets caught up in a

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<v Speaker 4>coaching search like this where you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you had big name coordinators out there that

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<v Speaker 4>were taking that next step and becoming head coaches. That's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish we would interview this guy. I wish we'd

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<v Speaker 4>interview this guy. And a lot of that is caught

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<v Speaker 4>up in x's and o's, whereas Schottenheimer was very clear

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<v Speaker 4>to be like, it's you know, the x's and o's

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<v Speaker 4>will come. It is about being a leader of men,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is about commanding. His opening statement very much

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<v Speaker 4>said that and talking about his legacy as well. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I had a quote here. I mean, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>he goes, I'm ready now, I know what, I know

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<v Speaker 4>what I want, I know what it looks like. He

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<v Speaker 4>also says I'm gonna get a chance to do what

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<v Speaker 4>my daddy didn't get, which was a super Bowl. If

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<v Speaker 4>it kills me, things like that, I think are going

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<v Speaker 4>to flip a switch for certain fans, because if you

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<v Speaker 4>hear something like that and you can relate to that

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<v Speaker 4>at all, it's it's romanticized.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's he seems like.

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<v Speaker 8>Jason Garrett, but less robotic and more like a person.

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<v Speaker 6>No because Jason Garrett.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I say that from a fan person.

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<v Speaker 8>But Jason, I heard the collector say, Garrett, Hey, he's

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<v Speaker 8>a leader of men. He can stand up in front

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<v Speaker 8>of the room. You ever heard him stand up in

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<v Speaker 8>front of the team and talk to the team like

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<v Speaker 8>like he he can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know that that. The x's and o's were

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<v Speaker 4>quite there for Jason Garrett. But I know what you're

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<v Speaker 4>saying as about instilling a culture, right, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Think you could go and and we we saw he

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<v Speaker 8>walked by us the other day and yesterday and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>sugar sugar hands talk to us a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 8>think he I think you introduced yourself one time. I

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<v Speaker 8>think he knows your name. I mean, I think I

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<v Speaker 8>think that's kind of the way he is, and that

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<v Speaker 8>that is that.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Oh you've heard that multiple times people person Yeah

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes.

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<v Speaker 8>To but but but it's gotta it's got to lead

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<v Speaker 8>to that. And you know, there were some there were

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<v Speaker 8>some really interesting things about his personality that I kind

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<v Speaker 8>of saw that I just I just liked it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there are two parts of this. First part is

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<v Speaker 5>saying the right things.

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<v Speaker 2>Check.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's done that. Now it's doing the right things.

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<v Speaker 5>So and it's like I said on the podcast yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd loved nearly everything he said in that press conference yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's show me, show me, show me the your

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<v Speaker 5>love for pre snap motion, as you said, because now

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<v Speaker 5>I want to hold you accountable to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You said it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we're all gonna hold you accountable pre snap motion

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<v Speaker 5>cut splits and things like that. Not establishing the run

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<v Speaker 5>for the sake of saying you established the run, but

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<v Speaker 5>establishing the run so that you can play off of

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<v Speaker 5>it with the play action.

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<v Speaker 2>For Dak Prescott, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Are making those plays look the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So credit to him, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Credit to him for being transparent and putting that out

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<v Speaker 5>there knowing full well that now you're going to be

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<v Speaker 5>held accountable for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that the first part.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that he was being transparent and communicative with that, Now,

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<v Speaker 5>that should give you some type of optimism because he's

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<v Speaker 5>not ducking dodge and he's not giving you these prepackaged answers.

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<v Speaker 5>He's saying, this is how I want the offense to go. Great, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>Now when training camp gets here, part two is let

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<v Speaker 5>me see if.

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<v Speaker 6>You prove this.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, boys, let's take our very first break. When

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<v Speaker 4>as well, and some of the hard hitting questions that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry the way you opened that up. I thought

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<v Speaker 6>I saw you lowly down.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought Grave Digger was about to take a big

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<v Speaker 8>Foot three at the stadium.

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<v Speaker 4>Yomens is I know as.

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<v Speaker 5>It's top of the artist, which is why he's not here.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we kind of, I mean he stole the

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<v Speaker 4>beard from me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you guys have the same hair, so that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. No, he's guys should beat three nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in mobile kids. Oh yeah he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I got he's got dogs.

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<v Speaker 4>I got him beat in a free time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay with it.

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<v Speaker 8>You're you're winning that you always and.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep Yeah, rub I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know they did.

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<v Speaker 8>They did a six o'clock, uh, six o'clock press carver

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<v Speaker 8>or six o'clock. I think it was some kind of

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<v Speaker 8>podcast and mobile six o'clock. You're getting players down there.

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<v Speaker 5>They're working. Oh yeah, Oh, they're always working. We work, folks.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't see us.

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<v Speaker 4>Ducking out of the office a little early. Guess what,

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<v Speaker 4>buddy on this thing. We're taking this with me. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why it works. Works mind your bill, all right, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Tommy's over there too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah those guys. Because look something nice for the draft show.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Okay, so we need to talk about comments

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<v Speaker 4>me from Jerry Steven.

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<v Speaker 6>Patrick.

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<v Speaker 4>I liked it, man. I like the heart hitting questions.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's like you're a journalist or something. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I don't know, unqualified, tell us the questions

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<v Speaker 4>that you asked, and tell us what the responses were

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<v Speaker 4>and how you perceived their responses, because of course there's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a lot of work around when you

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<v Speaker 4>ask direct questions like you did, I want to know

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<v Speaker 4>your interpretation of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>First, when you're going into an augurial press conference for

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<v Speaker 5>a head coach like that and you have so many

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<v Speaker 5>people waiting to ask the questions, you're going to get

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<v Speaker 5>the expected questions, which would be you know, how do

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<v Speaker 5>you feel? What did you feel when you first got

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<v Speaker 5>the news, and things like that, and those are rightful

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<v Speaker 5>and justifiable questions that you need answers to. You want

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<v Speaker 5>to get his mindset going into a big gig like this,

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<v Speaker 5>But I really wanted to take that opportunity to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of dive into the minutia of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So with Schottenheimer, good word, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>With Schottenheimer, I wanted to get past the superficial part

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<v Speaker 5>of Okay, well the offense is going to look different, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>what does that mean? So I asked him about the

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<v Speaker 5>modernization of the offense, what does that look like under

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<v Speaker 5>a Schottenheimer era? And feeding off of some things that

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry and Stephen had said. Steven said something that really

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<v Speaker 5>stuck out to me when he said the offense needs to.

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<v Speaker 2>Solve for the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, what does that mean in regards to Dak

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<v Speaker 5>Prescott's skill set? We know as analysts that Dak excels

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<v Speaker 5>at play action in order to have play action work.

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<v Speaker 5>What does that mean for you as the play caller

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<v Speaker 5>going into this year? So I love what he said

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<v Speaker 5>about cut splits and pre snap motion. And one thing

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<v Speaker 5>about McCarthy. I will give McCarthy credit in that, over

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<v Speaker 5>the course of his five year tenure here he evolved

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<v Speaker 5>to do more motion, but it became inconsistent. So even

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<v Speaker 5>after in games where it would work, he'd have sixty

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<v Speaker 5>percent pre snap motion and they would blow the doors

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<v Speaker 5>off of someone. The next game it would kind of

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<v Speaker 5>dip down, and then you'd find that there was a

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<v Speaker 5>correlation in them struggling sounds like with the whole Jerry

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<v Speaker 5>saying Schottenheimer quote unquote air quotes bit his lip several

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<v Speaker 5>times during the McCarthy era, which is no shade to McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just basically saying there was a difference in philosophy there.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to hear what Shottenheimer's answer was, and again

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<v Speaker 5>I loved what he said. It was succinct, it was clear,

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 5>it was transparent, and it did not provide any fluff.

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 5>He basically looked us in the eyes without giving his

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<v Speaker 5>whole playbook away, and said, this is what you can

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<v Speaker 5>expect going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>Second question was about free agency, roster building, cap manipulation,

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<v Speaker 5>and management. Question direction, which is yeah, question directed towards

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 5>both Jerry and Steven. When you look at a team

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<v Speaker 5>like the Philadelphia Eagles, who have operated a certain way

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<v Speaker 5>in free agency and never used the cap as an excuse,

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<v Speaker 5>and now they're back in the super Bowl, we consistently

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<v Speaker 5>hear that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill's gonna come.

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<v Speaker 5>Do not to say that it won't, but certain teams

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<v Speaker 5>like the Eagles, the Rams, they continually find a way

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 5>to keep the bill from coming. To What can you

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.160
<v Speaker 5>take away from your opponents, Because looking in the mirror

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 5>only gets you so far. The art of war dictates

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.680
<v Speaker 5>that you also have to look at the other military

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<v Speaker 5>generals and say, that's what they're using against us. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to turn that around, as sons Su said, As

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 5>Sons Su said, and use that against them I love

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<v Speaker 5>what Stephen. The majority of Steven's answer I loved because

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<v Speaker 5>he took full accountability in saying, yes, we can do better.

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 5>We do look at teams like the Eagles, the forty

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<v Speaker 5>nine ers, the Rams, we do try to take some

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<v Speaker 5>of their practices again, said the right things. We'll see

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<v Speaker 5>if that translates in this year's free agency. Jerry was Jerry,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, Jerry had the stories.

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<v Speaker 5>And nothing Jerry said surprised me because Jerry is always

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<v Speaker 5>going to give you the Jerry answer. So for that,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the best way I can describe that. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>disappointed or excited. I was neither of those things. It

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<v Speaker 5>was exactly what I expected Jerry to tell me. But

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<v Speaker 5>from what Steven told me, I saw glimmer of hope.

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 5>I saw a glimmer of hope. And as far as

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<v Speaker 5>what Shoty told me, as far as the play calling

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<v Speaker 5>and what they might look like, I really got optimistic

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, now just show me. You know.

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<v Speaker 8>I was a little surprised, but Jerry calling him a

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<v Speaker 8>risk like twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three times big risk, Yeah risk, biggest risk.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a huge risk. He's right here, he's a

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<v Speaker 5>huge risk. He was treating him like the five year

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 5>old Bronco. He's the Bronco. I can't have it all.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got.

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<v Speaker 6>Jerry. No, I mean I was.

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<v Speaker 8>I was impressed with, you know, the way that Shottenheimer

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 8>handled himself, and then with you know, it was an

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 8>emotional press conference, and then Jerry got emotional too a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit, just you know, because you start talking about

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 8>family with Jerry, whether it's real life, whether it's on

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 8>a TV show, you know, the Landman or whatever, and

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 8>even if it's someone else's family, because you can relate.

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 8>You know, he called his mama, he said that, you know,

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 8>he called his mama, and so he understands that stuff.

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 8>So there's a lot to take from. When they talked

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<v Speaker 8>about deference to and I said this on the radio

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<v Speaker 8>this morning, they asked about McCarthy and Schotenheimer working together

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<v Speaker 8>and how much difference there was. I'm like the fact

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 8>that they hired Schottenheimer is proof enough that there were

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<v Speaker 8>some changes.

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<v Speaker 6>Because usually look at this offense and be like.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, we got it. We got to move on here.

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 8>We got to move on play caller, offensive coordinator, we

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<v Speaker 8>got to make changes.

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<v Speaker 6>But the fact that they said.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, Mike, we're gonna move on, but we're gonna

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 8>we're gonna keep Schottenheimer. Yeah, that makes me think there

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 8>were a lot of biting, a lot of that going on,

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 8>and so that they just they just see things very

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 8>differently and let's let's hope so because you know, this

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 8>team wasn't prepared at all. I mean, they don't score

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 8>coming out of the game. I've said that a million times.

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 8>They don't just come out and score. What are they

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<v Speaker 8>doing all week long? What are you doing all week?

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 8>You should have your fifteenth plays scripted.

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<v Speaker 6>Worried out punt.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the more frustrating things whenever McCarthy would have

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<v Speaker 4>a press conference after the game and talk about how, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish we'd have leaned on the run a little

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<v Speaker 4>more at a certain dude, you're calling the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know right that I never understood that is

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 5>is that sounds a whole lot like I got to

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<v Speaker 5>get like the previous play caller who Mike McCarthy stood

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 5>on the podium and Basic Lee lambasted into the bus

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 5>a little bit after the lost to the Green Bay

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Packers and Aaron Rodgers killing got dragged that's indirectly Jackson.

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>He said, you got it, you got it to run

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<v Speaker 2>the ball right.

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<v Speaker 5>Fast forward to last year, and now it was was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh oh, oh interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean the irony here for Mike's is going to

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<v Speaker 8>be very interesting when you think of the last three

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 8>years where your defensive coordinator here and your offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 8>you know, is over here playing in the championships game

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<v Speaker 8>game together.

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<v Speaker 6>One's a head coach.

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<v Speaker 8>Kellen Moore is probably going to be the head coach

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<v Speaker 8>in New Orleans, I would think, and then here, and

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<v Speaker 8>then then your your next offensive corner who you didn't

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<v Speaker 8>even want to call plays is now calling the plays,

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<v Speaker 8>and he is the head coach in your job and

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<v Speaker 8>you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a job.

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<v Speaker 5>But also to add to that that little twist, assuming

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 5>killing Moore is that means he will have beaten out

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Four.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just don't Yeah, I don't think Mike's getting

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 6>that job in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 8>And you don't get one this year, you know fund

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<v Speaker 8>next year.

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<v Speaker 2>You think.

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<v Speaker 5>I say that because and you've you've covered the NFL

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 5>long enough to know that time makes people forget the

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 5>worst things, right, So if he sits out a year,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 5>when the next cycle comes around number one, he might

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 5>have a better opportunity than some of the ones that

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 5>are out there right now. But also a lot of

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 5>these gms and owners, they're going to forget the skin

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 5>of a seven and ten and they're going to remember that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, thirty six and fifteen that seeded it. So

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<v Speaker 5>the year that year off, if it's to happen, I

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 5>don't think it will hurt.

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<v Speaker 8>Him at I all think in college. I don't think

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 8>the college route would be too bad for him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>The way that NIL is now and the way you're

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 8>managing money and you're managing these egos and agents and

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 8>all that stuff. It's a lot more pro style than

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 8>it ever used to be. I think, you know, that

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 8>would be a miss. I can be a Big ten school.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 8>I don't know one specifically, just just something where you

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 8>know a good quality program looking at it, you know,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 8>looking to kind of make a mark and say, well,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 8>that's a super Bowl winning coach he's coaching that's Arkansas.

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Look, no, no, we have that guy. Okay, you got

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>your guy.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 6>They're about the same. We got that guy.

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<v Speaker 8>So no, no, that's not what I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you go back to pitt I don't know, Yeah,

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 8>nothing like that. Yeah like that right, Yeah, Pennsylvania area.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>But that that's I liked that.

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to see McCarthy in that spect because

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 5>he is absolutely a leader of man.

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>You can't take that away from him.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 5>No, he motivates and I could see him absolutely connecting

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 5>instantly with these younger guys and like you said, with

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 5>NL and how you can kind of equate it with

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<v Speaker 5>free agency.

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he might be. He might be able to do

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 2>some damage to the college.

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Though hopefully's not calling place anyways. Uh, let's go to

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 4>Schottenheimer again once again, we have a new head coach.

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Even you had a one on one with Brian Schttenheimers

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 4>excellence and it's on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Shouts also

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 4>to Rox Sanmadena because the production on that video is

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 4>like a plus man, the cinematography, the b roll, the

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 4>production just really a plus on all efforts.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I love it. I love being able to

0:28:59.000 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 6>do that.

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 8>And you know it was I didn't know when I

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 8>walked in this morning, didn't know what that was. That

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 8>was possibility, So you always got to be ready. But

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 8>I love the fact, you know, he came in and

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, he's worried about his tie. He was like,

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 8>make sure his ties right, you know, and he goes.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 8>But then he goes Jerry Steven didn't have a tie on,

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 8>so this is the last time I'm wearing So he

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 8>was like, let's get I was resident have his visor

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 8>on it. One true, he did say, oh, we'll be

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 8>getting advisor on for sure. And I'll be honest, I've

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 8>never understood the visor. Yeah, I don't understand it.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think it allows more air.

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 6>It just seems like Texas Stadium to me. You know,

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 6>you got the hole in the roof.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like having it's like wearing sunglasses without having to

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 4>worm lasses.

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 6>I guess, so, I guess.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 4>So it's a sweat. I don't know. I could see it.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I throwing a lebron and get put ahead, bet On

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 2>and get over with.

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 6>As for the interview, No, it was. It was good.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 8>And and here's something that that came out of that

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 8>that I noticed a couple other times. This is this

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 8>is something that is a small detail, but I think

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 8>it could be a bigger thing when you're talking about

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 8>commun indication. I asked a couple of questions and which

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 8>maybe they were bad questions, but he he disagreed with.

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 8>He also did it two or three times in the

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 8>press conference too. Did at any point did you ever

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 8>think at any point yesterday Schotenheimer was disrespectful in any way. Not,

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 8>but he disagreed with at least four or five questions.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 8>The way you disagree with people at lunch here on

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 8>the show, you're like, I hear.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 6>What you're saying, but as opposed to be like no, no, no, no.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 8>You know the dismissive verse that long way, right, So

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 8>the way you handle your assistant coaches when they say

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 8>I think we need to get this guy planned more,

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 8>it's like, well, hold up about that, or I see

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 8>your point. Let's let's talk about the way he kind

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 8>of could massage a conversation like that and say, not

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 8>trying to make someone feel dumb or idiot, but say

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.719
<v Speaker 8>I see it differently. Here's why that that that that

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 8>can go a long ways. And so it's a small thing,

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 8>but it could be a big thing when you're talking

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 8>about how you handle people. That's one thing I really

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 8>took from that. I loved his answer. I mean I

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 8>asked him, I thought I asked the question of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>what's a bigger challenge the super Bowl or living up

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 8>to your father's expectations. I'm not competing with my father,

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<v Speaker 8>you know. He just he's just Serena Williams that.

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<v Speaker 6>Thing right back. I was like, oh crap, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyways, but but I love it was a great answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he still gave a great answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to hear here's some kleenics. What's this question?

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<v Speaker 11>Like?

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<v Speaker 8>Nah, I don't see it like that boom gotcha? All right,

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 8>fair enough, But it was, it was, It was good,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think we're all going to be I think

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<v Speaker 8>I think we're going to enjoy working with him.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 8>Old he is in forty eight, fifty twofty two, he

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<v Speaker 8>seems thirty seven, you know what I mean to me,

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 8>he's got the younger.

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<v Speaker 5>He just kind of it's kind of like a dan Quinn, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>dan Quinn doesn't feel like how old he actually is

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<v Speaker 5>because he connects. Yeah, able to connect and be that

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<v Speaker 5>people person and be able to coach and and have

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<v Speaker 5>that conversation with you and disagree with you respectfully but

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<v Speaker 5>also offer up his take on it.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's what can you imagine nine hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 8>eight missed text messages or texts.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy, that's how many he had. Yeah, and he

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 4>said to all the people that love him, like, I

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 4>have like five people that love me. Dudeyeah, that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>but thanks man.

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<v Speaker 6>But he also six he also said, some of those are.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, congrats, Shody, you deserve it. So you know, you know,

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 8>I'm still out there, right, I'm a.

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<v Speaker 6>Free agent, which which then you know what he said.

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<v Speaker 8>But you heard the next part he goes, which I

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<v Speaker 8>get because I've been there, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that's the thing about a guy that does a lot

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 8>of things. He's he's been on all sides of this.

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<v Speaker 8>He's called the plays. He's not called the plays. He's

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<v Speaker 8>not had the job, he's been out of work.

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>He's you know, he's been the intern. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was obviously a big sticking point for the

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<v Speaker 4>Jones is like he's only fifty two and he has

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<v Speaker 4>like twenty five plus years of experience.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, this is a great balance of this is new

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<v Speaker 8>and fresh and also continuity at the same time. Those

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 8>players know them like it, but it's still new and

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<v Speaker 8>fresh because you can't just roll out last year's stuff

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 8>and say all the assistants back, all the free agents back,

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 8>all that stuff. That's why I think they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>really aggressive. They're gonna be active in free agency. Not aggressive,

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<v Speaker 8>they're gonna be active. And I think and I think

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<v Speaker 8>they're going to sign a lot more free agents than

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<v Speaker 8>they have because they have a lot of spots to fill.

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<v Speaker 6>That doesn't necessarily mean.

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<v Speaker 8>It's gonna be Saequan type moves here and there, press

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<v Speaker 8>conference type signings. I don't know about that, but i'd

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<v Speaker 8>like to see one or two.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and to your point, Stephen and said that yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>I think shot he's the perfect combination of keeping somebody

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<v Speaker 4>for continuity but also affecting change.

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<v Speaker 6>So yes, you did say that getting kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the best of both worlds in that scenario, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what a team that's won.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, we got twelve twelve, twelve and seven forty three

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 8>games in the last four years.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean like that this has been a good team.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, It hasn't been a great team, but I think

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 4>people talk like we won three games last.

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<v Speaker 5>Night, and now what makes you wonder could it have

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 5>been a great team if he didn't bite his lip.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't that's the thing. Yeah, we

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but it's time to find out.

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<v Speaker 4>We did it now our boy. Our final segment. We

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<v Speaker 4>got to face the music a little bit. We've been talking.

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<v Speaker 4>We're a little too positive on the angry music. Heavy metal, metal, yeah, yeah, metal,

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<v Speaker 4>there we go. We've been listen to a little Kublai contaday.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. Have you ever heard that band?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I just would say Metallica. I mean that's what I've got.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife said that to me, like when the first

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 4>time we mentioned I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 4>the middle band and she goes, oh, like Metallica, and

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh god.

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<v Speaker 8>Because the people that have really listened to heavy metal

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 8>think Metallica is even metal. Tallica is like dad rock,

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, like Will Smith is wrap well.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like yeah, like Metallica is like early. Their

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 4>early stuff is great obviously, and like all the music

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:47.479
<v Speaker 4>is great, but like at a certain point they became

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 4>dad rock where they cut their hair and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, It's like all right, man,

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<v Speaker 4>it's all good. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So let's face the music. They do music.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, all right, let's face the music. The fan base. Obviously,

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 4>there's too much music. There's a yeah, the music is

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 4>pretty loud right now, you know. Not everyone's happy, and

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 4>I get it, man, I'm a fan too.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 6>There's too much music.

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, there's too much.

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean okay, let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not everyone's happy. Which is completely understandable. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>in the super Bowl and you're seeing the Eagles and

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 4>the freaking Commanders and the NFC championship. Which is it

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 4>hurts man, it's not great. Jalen hurts if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate it.

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<v Speaker 4>But obviously we're not We're not in that position. We're

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 4>not there yet, and it's it's not necessarily that close.

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<v Speaker 4>What can we do? What are the expectations that you

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 4>guys have going into the off season to get us

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<v Speaker 4>over the hump into make a one year change, much

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<v Speaker 4>like Dan Quinn did with the Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to exercise difference.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it, but you know this is this is

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<v Speaker 6>your house.

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<v Speaker 5>First and foremost. You got to get active in free agency.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not simply the quantity. It is the quality.

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 5>It's it's not about you know, bringing in four running

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<v Speaker 5>backs between you know.

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<v Speaker 2>May Fils the currency right May first.

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<v Speaker 5>And in July fifteenth and saying hey we did a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>we were active. No, it's about you know, doing things

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<v Speaker 5>like number one, looking internally and saying can we retain

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<v Speaker 5>Rico doubt or who deserves to be retained? Maybe comboying

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<v Speaker 5>him with Ashton or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>In the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>But you got to get active in free agency internally,

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<v Speaker 5>but not using the internal retain or retentions as a

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<v Speaker 5>way of justifying not being active outside of the building.

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<v Speaker 5>So try to keep Eric Kendricks also diggi Zue Jordan Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>To try to keep Rico. Try to keep those things

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I don't, I don't, but I enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 6>I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 8>I enjoyed the fact that did you set that up

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<v Speaker 8>on purpose just to get the music and just the world.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it.

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>It's chemistry.

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<v Speaker 4>Aren't you married to do Hispanic family rights what they are?

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<v Speaker 5>Ye, get active in free agency and honestly, let's just

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 5>keep it, Frank, ditch the excuses, all right, Because I

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 5>understand the salary cap is a thing.

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>But for those of us, the capologists, we also understand

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 5>that it can be massaged and manipulated. So that's why

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm not buying a lot of the things that get sold.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 5>And I say it on the podcast, and I you know,

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 5>I say it in press conferences. I understand how it

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 5>can be finished. So retaining Osadiggie Zoo, for example, that

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 5>that would be a big one. Don't then look at

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 5>me and say, well, we did this, so we can't

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 5>do that. Well, actually you can, because here's a trigger. Here,

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 5>here's the trigger. There'll pull this, pull this, release this person.

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<v Speaker 2>Make it work.

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<v Speaker 5>Right Howie Roseman does it in Philadelphia, Sean McVay and

0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 5>those guys, they do it out in Los Angeles. It

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 5>can be done, so do it. So go out there

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 5>in free agency. There are gonna be some whales. We

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 5>understand that they're not going to go in free agency

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 5>the first wave and really get super active in that.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 5>But if you give me one of those guys and

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 5>then several meaningful guys thereafter, as opposed to throwing throw

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 5>some running back names out there that we had last

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 5>year that didn't even make it through training camp.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 6>It was like no on the team.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 4>On the team, right, they were like, we.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Walked in the training camp with like ten running backs,

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 5>Boyce Freeman and Daniel.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Pee, Ollia P.

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<v Speaker 4>Davis, He's on still here.

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 5>But my point is you you quite literally had like

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 5>eight names, including Hunter lifty eight names, but how many

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 5>of those names were meaningful? Ezekiel Elliott was brought back

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<v Speaker 5>in the end, it turned out to be Rico Show,

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<v Speaker 5>which it should have been in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't just throw bodies at the problem, throw the right

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<v Speaker 5>bodies at the particular problems and kind of start from there.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not asking you to throw off the pie. Just

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<v Speaker 4>make a new pie.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying is an excuse because there's a way to

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<v Speaker 5>bake the pie where where it can be delicious and

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<v Speaker 5>everybody can eat, as opposed to saying, oh, well, I

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<v Speaker 5>only know how to make pumpkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Learn how to make apple, learn how to make cherry.

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<v Speaker 4>Like sweet potato pots, sweet sweet tighter.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you about that sweet tighter pie. It's

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<v Speaker 2>something good, is what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Not it's rubarb, So respectfully, just make it work because

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<v Speaker 5>we've seen that other teams can make it work. So

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 5>look at what the enemies are doing. Look at what

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.959
<v Speaker 5>the opponents are doing. Take the strategies that are helping

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<v Speaker 5>them be successful and their strategies they're using to beat you.

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<v Speaker 4>To adopt it, I mean, go ahead, answer well.

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<v Speaker 8>I also think I think a big part of it,

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<v Speaker 8>before you even get the free agency, is that the

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<v Speaker 8>guys you have here that you've invested in, like they've

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<v Speaker 8>got to take that leap, Like if Tyler Guiden doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>live in the weight room this year, then that's gonna

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<v Speaker 8>be on them or on Tyler Guiden. And I mean

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<v Speaker 8>that's he's got to want it. He's got to want

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<v Speaker 8>to do that. Like he's a first round pick and

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<v Speaker 8>they're not getting They didn't get the production.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't get fifth.

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<v Speaker 8>Round production out of him. I mean really, I mean

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<v Speaker 8>they they they didn't. He Then the end of the

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<v Speaker 8>year with Chuma Idoga, I mean I thought that was

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<v Speaker 8>going to be a couple of weeks into training camp

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<v Speaker 8>and then he takes over and at the end of

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<v Speaker 8>the season, like week sixteen seventeen, he was a better

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<v Speaker 8>option for them to evaluate talent because because of just

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<v Speaker 8>how better he was as a player that you know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yet that can't happen so these other teams. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 8>Cowboys have drafted well, but the last two years, your

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<v Speaker 8>first round picks are not guys that are even starting

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<v Speaker 8>all the time or competing for Pro Bowls or any

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<v Speaker 8>of that.

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<v Speaker 5>And you need guys, like you said, like Sam Williams

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<v Speaker 5>coming back from this injury. He was supposed to hit

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<v Speaker 5>last year, but he towards ACL. You need him to

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 5>hit this year. So that's a good that's a good.

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<v Speaker 4>One to pivot. This is my last question for the day,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously with the draft coming up, and I think, well,

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we have the draft coming up anyways, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>but not today. When it comes to the war room,

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<v Speaker 4>do we think shot he's going to have a more

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<v Speaker 4>of a say in the players that you're that you're

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<v Speaker 4>drafting than Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I don't know about more. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know about more than you.

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean the reason I say yes and

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 5>let's let's qualify it, or I should say let's quantify.

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<v Speaker 5>When I say more, I don't mean that it's guaranteed

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<v Speaker 5>to be light years ahead of what McCarthy's input was.

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<v Speaker 2>More in the aspect of what I.

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<v Speaker 5>Gleaned, one of the things I gleaned from the press

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<v Speaker 5>conference yesterday is Stephen this is taken from what Steven

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<v Speaker 5>was saying, is that they understand the position they're in

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<v Speaker 5>with Schottenheimer, right. They understand even when you talk about

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<v Speaker 5>how many times Jerry said risk and identifying Shotenheimer, they

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<v Speaker 5>understand that they got to put the pieces around Dak

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 5>Prescott and they got to put the coaching pieces around Schottenheimer.

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 2>This is a first time NFL head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>You, unlike with McCarthy, you don't have the luxury of

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 5>leaning on his Super Bowl ex in, one of the

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 5>winningest coaches in NFL history, to say, oh, we can

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 5>throw you some scraps and you can make this work.

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 5>You don't have that luxury. This is a new NFL

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 5>head coach, so you have to go in with a

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 5>different mindset instead of yourself. We have to be more

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 5>aggressive and all of the things that we do. Does

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 5>that mean that we turn ourselves into the Eagles? Doubtful.

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 5>But you can't continue to do what you've been doing

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 5>and using the experience of your head coach as an

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 5>excuse to not be aggressive, because the experience is not

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 5>there anymore. So that's what I mean when I say yes,

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 5>so doing some things differently. I do think they will

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 5>go to Shotty more often and say, hey, what are

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 5>you looking for?

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 2>What do you need?

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Tommy talks a lot about alignment, and I love that

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 5>he does. I think this will be a more direct

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 5>alignment between Will McLay, Stephen Jones and the head coach,

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 5>which currently is Brian Shotenhamer.

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean.

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:52.879
<v Speaker 6>That's fair.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I definitely think the thing about the draft though,

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 8>is there's so many key players in free agency that

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 8>they're just not going to resign them all. I think

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 8>they're going to have some holes to fill in the

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 8>draft that you don't want, that you don't want that

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.399
<v Speaker 8>you want to kind of band aid it up here

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 8>in March and then when you get to April you

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 8>can be able to take best player available. I just

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 8>don't see that happening. I don't I don't see you know. So,

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 8>if you don't resign Osa, I think you're going to

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 8>have a problem at you don't resign Jordan Lewis with

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 8>Diggs injuries, You're gonna have an issue at Corny Ken

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 8>Kendricks at linebacker injuries, so you know, and then you

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 8>look at Zach Martin potentially retiring, and then you know,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 8>just guidance not his development isn't there. So the lines

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 8>an issue. All the running backs are free agents, that's

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 8>that's gonna be a They're just not going to be

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<v Speaker 8>able to piece this together in free agency to the

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 8>point where I think there's gonna be holes in the draft.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 8>So that's why it's kind of hard to say what

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 8>what happened it's.

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Going to be hard to be the team that uh

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:56.720
<v Speaker 4>picks the best player available.

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It don't have holes, regard less thing. And this is

0:46:59.000 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>piggybacking off.

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 6>Letus you have a lot of holes.

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.800
<v Speaker 8>Then then you're like, well, just you know, you can't

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.879
<v Speaker 8>you just best you know? I'll yeah, yeah, the best

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 8>best you know, The best available need is what I

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 8>always say. I always say it's banned. It's the best

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 8>available need. And there's gonna be a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're going to there's no way you're going into

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 5>this draft without some kind of voids that need to

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 5>be taken care of because you have such a long

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 5>list of pending for free agents inside the building. So

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 5>even if you keep Olsa Jordan and Eric Kendricks, for example,

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 5>you still got the Zach Martin equation. You still got

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 5>some depth issues because you don't know what Kayln Carson

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 5>looks like in year two coming off of a season

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 5>ended injury. You know, so forth and so on. But

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 5>that being said again, if you go back to how

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<v Speaker 5>to massage and manipulate the cap, you know it'll be

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 5>sold to you as oh, well we have.

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<v Speaker 2>To pay Michael. Well, if you pay Michaeh.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, so you're actually free up tens of thousands, tens

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 5>of millions of dollars in salary cap space for twenty

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 5>twenty five like immediately that you can then use to

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 5>go shopping a free agency to help out at as

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 5>far as your BPA or your band approaches concerned and

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 5>free agency in the draft. So the sooner you get

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 5>deals like Micah's done, the more cap savings you actually have.

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 5>It's not until after the contract is about to expire

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 5>that you do the extension. That's when you get penalized

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 5>for waiting. So that's what I mean when I say,

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 5>you know handle it how some other teams are handling it.

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 5>Adopt some of their strategies. And it's not that none

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 5>of your strategies are working. Some of them are right,

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 5>but identify the ones that aren't, see who's doing that

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 5>thing better, and then marry those two things.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, boys, we're a few minutes over. That'll be

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<v Speaker 4>it for talking talks. I know, it's talking storyline. We're

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 4>leading into it. I know, I know. Thank you Nick

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 4>even for joining us.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been great.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Kyle, thank you Tommy, thank you Isaiah, who's

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<v Speaker 4>not here, shouts to my rich mocha.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you going to Isaiah standback? Is he going to

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<v Speaker 8>do the things? It's a trademark thing. You gotta do

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 8>it for raw No, im good? What is that I

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 8>was going to see?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah?

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