1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This series is inspired by true events. The stories you're 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: about to hear are fictional, and so are the characters 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: who are played by actors. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the fall in nineteen eighty six, we were 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: finally seniors. 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Y yep, Ethan Rooney is still my boyfriend. It's been 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: ten months and we're still going strong. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: It really felt like we've been through Helen back and 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: there was finally some light at the end of that tunnel. Graduation, 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, something that felt like a normal part of life. 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to graduate and go to college. I mean, 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: if you'd been through what we'd been through, wouldn't you 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: want to get out of this town? 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Honestly, the year was off to a really good start. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: At least, you know, that's what we have thought. 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Clark. This is The Murder Years, Episode six. 17 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Mister Billingsley. 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: Good morning, students, Principal Baalumbo Year. Today is November seventeenth. 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: As you know, it's volunteer week and the sign up 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: sheets are outside the main office. Let's show the community 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: what great and giving young men and women you are. 22 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: Let's give back to Mount Pine, Okay mountaineers. 23 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: In between home room and first period I ran to 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the main office and sign up to volunteer at the 25 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: women's shelter. My friend Tatiana signs up too. 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to volunteer at the hospital. I loved the 27 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: idea of helping people, and I always wanted to be 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: a candy striper. The outfit was so cute, right, Plus 29 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: volunteering would look really good on college applications. 30 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: The following week is Thanksgiving Week. 31 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: And we have the whole week off. 32 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: It's really a nice break for me, at least. Monday, 33 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: December one, we're back at school. Carla, Tatiana, and I 34 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: are in the same history class. I remember that Monday 35 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: was a long first day back. Last period we all 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: had us history senior year. That was the only class 37 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that we all had together. And that day we had 38 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: a sub. Yep, we have a substitute and she makes 39 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: us watch a history movie about the Native Americans. It's 40 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. 41 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: Honestly, I was just happy to zone out and watch 42 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: a movie. I didn't care what it was. 43 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: The next day, school's pretty normal. Last period. I walk 44 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: into class and that sub is back again. Why where's 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: mister Billingsley. 46 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: Nine one one? 47 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 6: What's your emergency? 48 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: I walked in the house to check on. 49 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 5: Oh my god, sir, what is your emergency. 50 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm in his house. 51 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 7: Oh my god, he's dead. Marcus Diffin. 52 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: Around two pm, Mount Pine police arrive at seven twenty 53 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: four Maple Lane, a red brick colonial style house located 54 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: in the New subdivision near the brand new mall. 55 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 7: What I got there, It was a hectic scene. 56 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Detective Tom Wallace is the lead on the case. By 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: November of nineteen eighty six, he's worked three brutal murder cases, 58 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: Lisa Anderson's in May of nineteen eighty four, Daniel Walters 59 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: in February of nineteen eighty five, and Charlotte Murphy's later 60 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: that year. And now he's got another one. 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 7: Charles. Here we go again, right. I had to go 62 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 7: get my notes and reports before talking to you about 63 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 7: this one. When I arrived at the scene, I was 64 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 7: briefed by the responding officer who told me the victim 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 7: was a white male in his late thirties or early forties. 66 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 7: When I entered the dwelling, I saw a victim lying 67 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 7: on his stomach in the foyer on the threshold of 68 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 7: the living room. His head was turned to the side. 69 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 7: It looked like He'd been severely beaten in the face 70 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 7: and on the back of his head. There was a 71 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 7: Buddy shoeprint on the side of his face, and more 72 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 7: prints trailed off down the hall. This guy was beaten 73 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 7: to a pulp. He was wearing a thermal shirt and 74 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 7: black sweats, and he was barefoot. He looked like he'd 75 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 7: been dead and more at least a couple of days. 76 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 7: The smell was unbearable. There was dried blood splatter on 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 7: the walls and floors, and on the TV just about 78 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 7: four feet away ransacked. My first thought was a robbery 79 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 7: gone wrong. Maybe our victim surprised the robber. Maybe this 80 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 7: was a drug deal gone bad. I walked back outside 81 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 7: and learned that the man sitting in the backseat of 82 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 7: one of the patrol cars was our nine one one caller. 83 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 7: He was a middle aged guy, a few pounds overweight, 84 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 7: with brown hair and glasses. He'd looked like he'd seen 85 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 7: a ghost. Well, I guess, in a way, maybe he had. 86 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 7: I was in state of shock. 87 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Back in November of nineteen eighty six. Mister Palombo, Eric 88 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: Palumbo was our jovial high school principal. 89 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 8: I told the detective we knew Mark wouldn't be back 90 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 8: the Monday after Thanksgiving break. 91 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 7: He was going to visit family out of state. 92 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: Today. Mister Palumbo is eighty six and living with his 93 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: wife in Sarasota, Florida. 94 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 6: But when Mark didn't show up for work on Tuesday, 95 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: that was odd. He would never just not call in. 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 6: So we got a sub last. 97 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 8: Minute and I decided to go to his house at 98 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 8: lunch to check on him. 99 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 7: I asked mister Plumbo if he knew of any troubles 100 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 7: Mark was having. He said no. He said Mark was 101 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 7: a great guy and a dedicated teacher. Mark would be 102 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 7: the last person he could ever imagine this happening too. 103 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 7: I let him know I may have more questions for 104 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 7: him later, and I would probably want to come to 105 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 7: the school and go through Mark's desk. Maybe there was 106 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 7: something in there that could help our investigation. 107 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: For hours, the police process the scene. They take photographs 108 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: and desper prints. The shoe print on Billingsley's face and 109 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: the ones down the hall appeared to be from a 110 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: size nine and a half or ten tennis shoe. 111 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 7: Blombo told me Billingsley's parents were no longer alive, but 112 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 7: he had a younger sister with a family in another state. 113 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 7: That's who he was visiting over Thanksgiving break. So when 114 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 7: I got back to the station, I looked up his sister, 115 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 7: Emily Sparks. I called the authorities there and asked them 116 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 7: to make the death notification. 117 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Late Tuesday night, Detective Kurt Peters is tasked with going 118 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: and interviewing Billingslee's sister. Detective Peters worked the Dawn Cartwright 119 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: murder at the drive in a little over two years earlier. 120 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 9: Here we go again, right, So yeah, I drove a 121 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 9: long time. I think it was eight hours, and I 122 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 9: got there pretty late. Miss Sparks was there waiting for 123 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 9: me when I arrived. 124 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty six, Emily Sparks is twenty eight 125 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: years old, an elementary school teacher, married with a five 126 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: year old daughter. Today she's sixty four. 127 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 10: I remember, I just couldn't comprehend that my big other 128 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 10: was dead. 129 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 9: She was very, very upset, right LI, So I asked 130 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 9: her about her relationship with her brother, if they were 131 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 9: close or if they had any problems. She said she 132 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 9: loved him. They had a good relationship, but didn't talk 133 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 9: as often as they used to. You know, life was busy. 134 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 9: Then I wanted to know how Thanksgiving was, how did 135 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 9: her brother seem did Billingsley share anything that might help 136 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 9: our cads? Did anything seem off about him? And when 137 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 9: did he leave? That's when she said something, I mean, 138 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 9: just stop me dead in my tracks. 139 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 7: Thanksgiving? 140 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 10: No, I told him Mark never came for Thanksgiving. 141 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Mount Pine Police detective Kurt Peters is interviewing Emily Sparks, 142 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Mark Billingsley's younger sister, and she just said something he 143 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: was not expecting. 144 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 10: I told the detective, my brother didn't come for Thanksgiving. 145 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 10: He had plans too, but on Tuesday, it was two 146 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 10: days before Thanksgiving, he said something came up and that 147 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 10: he couldn't make it and he would just see us 148 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 10: at Christmas. 149 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 11: Well, that changed everything. I wanted to know what a 150 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 11: game up? 151 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 9: Did Mark say anything before about why he wasn't coming 152 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 9: for Thanksgiving? She said she didn't know. He was vague 153 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 9: and she didn't cry. She told him she was disappointed, 154 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 9: but when he promised he'd come for Christmas, she'll let 155 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 9: it go. I asked if Billingsley was dating anyone. 156 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 11: She said no, did eating drugs? 157 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 9: No? I then asked if there was anyone anyone at all? 158 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 9: She could think of who would want to hurt her brother, 159 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 9: and she said no, and an emphatic no. 160 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 10: I couldn't think of anyone who would have wanted to 161 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 10: hurt my brother, let alone kill him. I told Detective 162 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 10: Peters it had to have been random. No one, no 163 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 10: one who knew him, would ever want to hurt him. 164 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Emily couldn't help point detectives in any substantial direction. 165 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 7: I remember thinking the ransacked house made it look like 166 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: it was a robbery, but officers at the scene reported 167 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 7: back that it didn't seem like anything had actually been stolen. 168 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 7: The kitchen drawers and cupboards open and rifled through didn't 169 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 7: make sense to me, So we were all scratching our 170 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 7: heads and we considered maybe this was staged to look 171 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 7: like a robbery. 172 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: The next day, Detective Wallace says, the autopsy results come in. 173 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: Mark Billingsley had multiple broken bones in his face, including 174 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: all seven of his orbital bones. He had several skull fractures, 175 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: had five teeth knocked out, his jaw had been broken, 176 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: and his collarbone was shattered. His cause of death as 177 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: a cerebral hemorrhage which led to a stroke, and the 178 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: corner thinks It was done manually, meaning with hands and fists. 179 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: The time of death was determined as Sunday night, around 180 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: ten pm. 181 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 7: It was a gruesome death. 182 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: He was the coolest teacher as just a really kind person. Gosh, 183 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: I remember I was I was so so sad. 184 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: I felt like he cared about us, which was kind 185 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: of rare, and it didn't make sense. We kept losing 186 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: kids left and right, and then we lost a teacher. God, 187 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: I mean, how much more were we supposed to take? 188 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: Principal Columbo Here, I'm asking for all students and teachers 189 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: to report to the gymnasium immediately for an assembly. 190 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: We all file into the gym. Teachers are crying, kids 191 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: are crying. 192 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 7: I mean, we all loved mister Billingsley. 193 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Melanie, Tatiana and I find a spot and sit down together. 194 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: Let's all take a moment of silence and remember mister Billingsley. 195 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: The principal tells us they're a psychologist available to talk 196 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: to us if we need it. But here's the thing. 197 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't just because of mister Billingsley's death. They knew 198 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: we had been through so much shit, so much death 199 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: those last couple of years, and so many of us 200 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: were really screwed up trying to process it all. 201 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: Detective Tom Wallace takes the lead on this case. He 202 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: salved two other murders before this one, but he says 203 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: this case was trickier. 204 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 7: So yeah, I remember, we weren't able to get any 205 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 7: clean fingerprints from the scene, so that was a dead end. 206 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 7: It just didn't look like a robbery or a drug 207 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 7: deal gone bad. I needed to know more about Billingsley's 208 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 7: life in Mount Pine, so after school that day, mister 209 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 7: Palumbo escorted me to his classroom and I looked through 210 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 7: his desk, which didn't turn up anything useful, But Principal 211 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 7: Palumbo told me that Billingsley's closest friend was a fellow 212 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 7: teacher named Jesse Clayton. Turned out he was still at 213 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 7: school and luckily was willing to talk back. 214 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty six, Jesse Clayton is the hot teacher. 215 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: He teaches creative writing in English. We used to joke 216 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: that mister Billy was the robman to mister Clayton's batman. 217 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: I was sick to my stomach that mark was gone. 218 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: Today, Jesse is the principal at Mount Pine Middle School. 219 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: He agrees to talk with me there. 220 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 5: I mean, Mark Billingsley was like my best friend. He 221 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 5: was definitely my best work friend. So I asked Clayton 222 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: if he and Billingsley spent any time together outside of school. 223 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: I told the detective that we did lots of stuff together. 224 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 5: You know, we played soccer, we went to the movies, 225 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: always action movies. We'd play pool at my house, we'd 226 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: watch sports, you know. Sometimes we even went on double dates. 227 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 7: I mean, the fact that he was dating was news 228 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 7: to me. His sister said he wasn't seeing anyone. So 229 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 7: who was he dating and was it serious? 230 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 5: I told the detective. Her name was Colleen Mulligan. She 231 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: was a little bit younger, twenty seven ish. She had 232 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 5: a kid from another relationship. I told him they've been 233 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: dating for six months or something like that, and Billingsley 234 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: was completely crazy about her, but he kept it totally 235 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: quiet for some reason. The relationship was a secret. In fact, 236 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 5: Mark told me that it was Colleen who didn't want 237 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: anybody to know about the relationship at all. And I 238 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: think it was getting tumultuous between them. 239 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 7: Interesting, the relationship was tumultuous, how, I wondered. I pressed 240 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 7: Clayton some more. Told the detective. 241 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 5: It seemed to me that Mark was way more in 242 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: love with her than she was with him, and not 243 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: long before he died, Mark told me that it felt 244 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: to him like she was playing games or pulling away, 245 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 5: but she didn't say why. He kept telling her how 246 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: much he'd loved her and he adored her son, but 247 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: she just kept getting more and more distant. 248 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Detective Wallace sets out to speak with Colleen Mulligan. Immediately, 249 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: he leaves the school and goes directly to Blue Balloon 250 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Kids hair salon, where she works. 251 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 10: I was surprised to see a detective at my job. 252 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 10: That didn't happen every day. 253 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Colleen Mulligan agrees to talk with me about Mark Billingsley 254 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: and everything that transpired back in nineteen eighty six. Today 255 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: she owns her own hair salon in Mount Pine. 256 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 10: Yeah. I was in the middle of a haircut when 257 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 10: this detective asked me to go outside and talk. 258 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 7: I remember she acted surprised, which didn't make sense to me, 259 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 7: I mean, given the recent tragedy. So we went out 260 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 7: to the back alley and that's when I told her 261 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 7: that her boyfriend Mark was found dead. Well, she just 262 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 7: lost it. How hadn't she known that her boyfriend was murdered. 263 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 7: At this point, it was all over the news. She 264 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: was acting like she's hearing it for the first time. 265 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 7: I asked when she saw or talked to Mark last. 266 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 10: I told him that Mark and I had talked on 267 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 10: the phone a few days before, maybe maybe four days before, 268 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 10: and well, everything sounded normal with him. 269 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 7: I wanted to know specifics. I wanted to know what 270 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 7: they talked about, and she said that Mark wanted to 271 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 7: see her, but she was busy, and could she see 272 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 7: him the following week. Then I asked her how their 273 00:17:53,560 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 7: relationship was. I told her it had been described as tumultuous. Remember, 274 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 7: she looked surprised. She said, sure, it had its ups 275 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 7: and downs, like any relationship. It was her first relationship 276 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 7: in a while. I'm going to read from my notes now, 277 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 7: I wrote. See Colleen admitted that Mark wanted more of 278 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 7: her time, but she had a son at school at work, 279 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 7: so she wasn't always as available as Mark would have liked. 280 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 7: She said she was a private person and wanted to 281 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 7: keep the relationship between them, and he wanted to shout 282 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 7: it from the rooftobs. Then I asked her about her 283 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 7: son and her son's father. 284 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 10: I remember being thrown by that question, you know, like 285 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 10: why was he even asking about my son? 286 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 7: And this is very clear in my memory. She got 287 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 7: very defensive, which of course made me suspicious. She hammed 288 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 7: an awe, then said her ex was not a good guy. 289 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 7: Then she started to shake and cry. 290 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 10: Look, I was afraid my ex was a scary guy, 291 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 10: or he used to be a scary guy back in 292 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 10: like eighty four. He used to hit me. I actually 293 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 10: spent some time at the woman's chilter because of him, 294 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 10: and he did some time for it. But then early 295 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 10: around eighty five he got out and he changed. He 296 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 10: was in counseling and anger management for a few days 297 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 10: a week, and then he stopped drinking. And we were 298 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 10: trying to have a better coparent relationship, you know, for 299 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 10: our son, although he could only see him during court visits, 300 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 10: supervise visits. 301 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 7: I asked her if her ex knew she was dating. 302 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 7: She paused. 303 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 10: I told the detective yes, yes, and that he hated 304 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 10: Mark with everything he had. 305 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, December fourth, nineteen eighty six, and Detective Tom 306 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Wallace is talking with Colleen Mulligan in the alley behind 307 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: the hair salon where she works. She just told him 308 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: she's afraid of her abusive ex boyfriend. 309 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 7: Colleen said her ex didn't know Mark personally, all that 310 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 7: mattered was that he found out she was dating, and 311 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 7: she said her ex was especially jealous that Mark was 312 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 7: spending time with his son. Then I'm just going to 313 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 7: read this right from my notes, I wrote. She got 314 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 7: this look on her face like oh no. She collapsed 315 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 7: against the dumpster and started crying. I asked Colleen her 316 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 7: ex's name in between her sobs. She said Darren mcmay. 317 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Detective Wallace asks where Darren McVeigh lives. Colleen tells him 318 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: he lives at the rain Tree apartment complex near the 319 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Inner State. Detective Wallace calls for a backup, but when 320 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: they arrive, Darren mcveigh's not there. 321 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 7: Colleen also told me that McVeigh did some odd jobs 322 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 7: over at Pinewood Farm. 323 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: So Detective Wallace and the patrol cars drive to the 324 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: other side of town to Pinewood Farm. When they pull up, 325 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: they see four guys standing next to a tractor armed 326 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: with his mugshot. Detective Wallace walks right up to the 327 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: man in the middle. He stands face to face with 328 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Darren McVeigh. 329 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 7: And I remember he seemed completely unfazed we were there. 330 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 7: I asked him if he'd be willing to come to 331 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 7: the station with us and answer a few questions, and 332 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 7: he said he would. 333 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: At the station Detective's Wallace Peter's interview Darren. 334 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 9: McVeigh, Yeah, I remember how cool he was acting. 335 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 11: How odd that seemed to me. 336 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 7: I asked him about his relationship with Colleen. I had 337 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 7: some anger issues in the past that I took out 338 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 7: on her, but the past is the past. 339 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 11: I did my time. 340 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 7: I'm in a much better place with her and myself. 341 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 7: I asked him about being on probation now after being 342 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 7: convicted on domestic battery charges last year. He brushed it 343 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 7: off as nothing again. I'm just gonna read to you 344 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 7: from my notes, let's see, I wrote. I noticed some 345 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 7: small cuts and bruises on his knuckles. When I asked 346 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 7: him how he got them, he said it was from 347 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 7: working on his truck and at the farm. He couldn't 348 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 7: remember exactly. Then I asked him his shoe size. They 349 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 7: were ten, the bloody shoe prints where a nine were 350 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 7: a ten. I asked him what he was doing on 351 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 7: Sunday night. He was vague and said quote, I don't 352 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 7: know what this is about, but I know I was 353 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 7: around and people can vouch for me. Then I asked 354 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 7: how he felt about Colleen dating Mark Billingsley, and. 355 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 9: I swear in that moment his face changed, right before 356 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 9: our eyes. 357 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 11: I saw rage. Then he said I want a lawyer. 358 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 11: Interview was over. 359 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 7: At that point. We had enough to hold him for 360 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: forty eight hours, so we did, and then we reached 361 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 7: out to Prosecutor Ben Blythe to see if we could 362 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 7: get a search warrant for mcveigh's apartment and vehicle. 363 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: Early Friday morning, the judge signs the warrant. 364 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 7: Now we're in business. We went to Darren mcday's place 365 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 7: and searched a small, one drew apartment. I remember I 366 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 7: fill his like three hours to go through everything. We 367 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 7: went through his drawers and closets, his garbage, he can 368 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: cut open his mattress. We searched his garage space which 369 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 7: had a small storage area, and we searched his pickup truck. Nothing, 370 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 7: no bloody clothes, nothing. This was disappointing. 371 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: If Darren McVeigh did kill mister Billingsley, he could have 372 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: disposed of all the incriminating evidence in the last few 373 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: days and they may never find it. So the detectives 374 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: asked Prosecutor Ben Blythe to go back and try and 375 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: get a search warrant for Pinewood Farm, where McVeigh works. 376 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: The judge signs the warrant, but with conditions. 377 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 7: We were only allowed to search the areas Darren McVeigh 378 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 7: had regular access to, so we searched the WORKSHD, the barns, 379 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 7: and the garage where they housed the farm equipment. Again, 380 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 7: we found nothing. 381 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: When forty eight hours are up, they let Darren McVeigh go, 382 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: but out of concern for Colleen and her son's safety 383 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: and in case McVeigh tries to run, they put a 384 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: surveillance team on him and one week later it pays off. 385 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 7: It was around one am one of our undercover officers 386 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 7: who'd been watching McVeigh saw him come out of his 387 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 7: house with a duffel bag. He then put it in 388 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 7: his truck and drove off. The undercover followed him to 389 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 7: a storage facility just outside Mountain Pie. He watched McVay 390 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 7: as he went into a storage unit. When he returned, 391 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 7: he was empty headed. 392 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: Detective Wallace calls the owner of the storage Facility and 393 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: Learns storage unit number B one seven to one was 394 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: being rented by Darren mcvay's brother, Thomas. An hour later, 395 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Detective Kurt Peters is at Thomas mcvay's house asking if 396 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: he would be willing to open up the unit to police. 397 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 11: He agreed, so Thomas is there. 398 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 9: There are several officers, Me and Detective Wallace arrives soon 399 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 9: after the search begins. It was an eight or twelve 400 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 9: unit and it was pretty packed, lots of Foxes, kids stuff, 401 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 9: old cough clubs, electronic equipment. 402 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 11: We pulled everything out. 403 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 9: And went through everything meticulously. Towards the back was a 404 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 9: big tool storage cabinet. It was on wheels, so we 405 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 9: were able to wheel it out pretty easily. When we 406 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 9: opened it, there it was the Duffel bag. I remember. 407 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 9: We all just looked at each other like, oh shit. 408 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 9: And when we opened the Duffel bag, inside was a 409 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 9: black plastic bag full of blood splattered clothes and shoes. 410 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 7: Bingo. We got him. 411 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Later that same day, officers arrest Darren McVeigh as he's 412 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: walking into an appointment with his probation officer. He's on 413 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: probation after being convicted of domestic battery charges the year before. 414 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Because proving premeditation might be hard. McVeigh is charged with 415 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: second degree murder, as well as weapons and probation violation charges. 416 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 7: I'm telling you it felt good. Yeah, it felt real 417 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 7: good to get him off the streets. 418 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: In the weeks that follow police are able to confirm 419 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: the clothes found in the storage unit were, in fact 420 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: Darren mcveigh's. The blood on them matched Mark Billingsley's blood type, 421 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: and the shoes a size ten tennis shoe matched the 422 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: impression on Mark's face and in the house. Mark's girlfriend, 423 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: Colleen says she feels responsible. 424 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 10: When I learned that my was arrested for killing Mark, well, 425 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 10: I just wanted to die. I felt so hopeful, and 426 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 10: I felt like it was all my fault. 427 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: Five months later, the trial begins. Prosecutor Ben Blythe feels 428 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: confident in the state's case. 429 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 8: I had absolutely no doubt in Darren mcvay's guilt and 430 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 8: the case we were going to present. We had the 431 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 8: physical evidence, the bloody clothes and shoes, we had the 432 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 8: plastic bag, and we were going to argue his motive 433 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 8: was blind rage and jealousy. 434 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Colleen Mulligan, Mark Billingsley's girlfriend and the ex girlfriend of 435 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the accused. Darren McVeigh, is the star witness for the prosecution. 436 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 10: I remember it was beyond scary to be on the 437 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 10: stand with my ex boyfriend Darren caring at me. I mean, 438 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 10: he was literally on trial for killing Mark. I was shaking. 439 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 10: I was so worried he was going to jump, run 440 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 10: up and just jump me or something, you know. But 441 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 10: I did what I had to do and I told 442 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 10: him everything. Darren and my relationship started out great. 443 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 9: You know. 444 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 10: We met at a bar, we were both out with friends, 445 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 10: and well, we fell for each other pretty quickly, and 446 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 10: he moved in with me. After five months. Things started 447 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 10: to just change for me though, when he became almost 448 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 10: too invested in me in our relationship. He was kind 449 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 10: of obsessed with being with me and buying me things, 450 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 10: and he wanted me to only spend time with him. 451 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 10: And then things got way worse when I got pregnant, 452 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 10: and of course as I started to tell him about 453 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 10: these concerns that I had, the more upset and so 454 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 10: cure and aggressive he got. So we split for the 455 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 10: first time when I was six Yeah, I think he 456 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 10: was six months pregnant and then we got back together 457 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 10: a few weeks later, and the next time we split 458 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 10: was right before my due date. He slapped me across 459 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 10: the face and he pushed me up against the wall, 460 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 10: so we broke up again. But you know, when I 461 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 10: went into labor, I mean I I was scared. I 462 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 10: was so scared, so I called. 463 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: Him, Colleen says. Shortly after the birth of their son, 464 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: things started to go downhill again fast. The next time 465 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: Darren hits her, it's pretty bad. He punches her in 466 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: the chest, knocks her to the ground, and pins her there. 467 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: When he finally gets up and leaves to go drinking, 468 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: she packs some things for herself and her son and 469 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: goes to the woman's shelter. Once she's safe, she calls 470 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: police and they arrest him at the bar. Darren is 471 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: convicted of domestic battery and sentenced to a year in 472 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: county jail. 473 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 10: When he got out, he was mandated to go to 474 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 10: anger management classes and counseling and atten AA meetings and 475 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 10: all of which he did, and it seemed like he 476 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 10: was doing better, I mean for a while anyway. 477 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 7: Until. 478 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: Until Darren finds out she's dating Mark. 479 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: Shit. 480 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 10: When he found out, it was just a few weeks 481 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 10: before the I saw some of the old Darren back. 482 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 10: He was acting angry and jealous. It was one of 483 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 10: the reasons I was distancing myself from Mark only I 484 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 10: thought that he would do something to me. I never 485 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 10: thought that he would do something to Mark, and I 486 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 10: never told Mark. I never warned Mark, and now I 487 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 10: know I should have. He had no idea. 488 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: Colleen says she doesn't know why Mark didn't go to 489 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: his sisters for Thanksgiving, but she wishes he had. 490 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 10: He called me wanting to get together over the break 491 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 10: that I had said that I had too much going 492 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 10: on and that I would just see him the next week. God, 493 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 10: I really really wish Mark had gone to his sisters. No, 494 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 10: I wish I had broken up with him just to 495 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 10: spare him, and maybe this would have never happened. 496 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: The prosecution also calls to the stand detectives Wallace and Peters, 497 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: Darren mcveay's probation officer, a pathologist, and psychologists, as well 498 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: as some coworkers at the farm. 499 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 8: We had four days of testimony and a pretty rock 500 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 8: solid case. We believe Darren went to Billingsley House with 501 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 8: the intention of warning him to stay away from Colleen 502 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 8: and his son. A fight ensued and mister McVeigh beat 503 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 8: Mark to death. 504 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 7: We didn't think we could prove premeditation. 505 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 8: We had nothing to prove McVeigh went there with intent 506 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 8: of killing Billingsley. The one thing we could never figure 507 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 8: out was where mister McVeigh hit the Duffel bag of 508 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 8: bloody clothes and shoes before taking it to the storage. 509 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: The jury deliberates for seventy eight minutes, then comes back 510 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: with the verdict of guilty. Darren McVeigh is sentenced to 511 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: twenty five years to life. Mister Billingsley's sister feels justice 512 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: was served, but she's still angry. 513 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 10: Oh never forgive that piece of shit for taking my 514 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 10: brother from me. But I'll also never forgive myself for 515 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 10: not being more involved in Mark's life. I just didn't 516 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 10: know what was going on. I guess he didn't know either. 517 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 10: I just should have been more involved. But I got 518 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 10: to say I felt so bad for our family, but 519 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 10: I also felt so bad for Mark's students. They loved him. 520 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 12: After school that day McVeigh was found guilty, the whole 521 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 12: student body went to the courthouse and just sat on 522 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 12: the steps. Everyone held hands, cried, and shared memories of 523 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 12: mister Billingsley. I would say it was nice, but it 524 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 12: was really so sad. 525 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 5: As a teacher at Mount Pine and as Mark's best friend, 526 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 5: I didn't know what to say anymore to comfort the kids, 527 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 5: to comfort myself. We were like a bunch of zombies 528 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: walking through the hallways. We didn't know what to do 529 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 5: or say. We just wanted it to be over, Like, 530 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 5: could we just put all these tragedies behind us? It 531 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 5: was killing us. 532 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: No, we couldn't. Next time on The Murder Years, nine 533 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: one one, what's your emergency? 534 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 7: Look my god? 535 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, so we'll just broke into the house city, hang 536 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 9: up the phone. 537 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: Now we're out. 538 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: A new killer as all of Mount Pine fearing for 539 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: their lives. The Murder Years is a production of AYR 540 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: Media and iHeartMedia Executive producer Eliza Rosen for AYR Media 541 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: co executive producer Paulina Williams. Written by Leah Rothman, directed 542 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: by Michael Seltich. Original concept developed in partnership with Anne, 543 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: Margaret Johns and Greg Spring. Casting by Eisenberg, Bean's Casting 544 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: Senior Associate producer Eric Newman, Associate producer Jill Pushesnik, editing 545 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: and sound design by Tristan Bankston, mastering by Cameron Taggie, 546 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: audio engineering by Matt Jacobson, Studio engineering by Jay Brannan. 547 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: Music by Nathan Bankston. Legal Council for a y R Media, 548 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Gianni Douglas, Executive producer for iHeartMedia, Maya Howard. Performances for 549 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: this episode by Gabrielle Carteris as Nancy Clark, Kelly Deadman 550 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: as Tatiana, Orla Cassivi as Melanie, Maricilda Garcia as Carla, 551 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: Charles Carroll as Principal Palumbo, Charles Carroll as Prosecutor Blythe 552 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Dathan B. Williams as Detective Peters. Desiree Rodriguez is nine 553 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: one one Operator h Richard Greene as Detective Wallace, James B. 554 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: Kennedy as Ethan Rooney, James B. Kennedy as Young Principal Colombo, 555 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: James Donahower as Jesse Clayton, Jesse Hendricks as Lauren Collins, 556 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: Julie Frankel as Colleen Mulligan. Julie Frankel is Emily Sparks. 557 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Additional voices by Alex Salem