1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's Guy, John Annick, 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, Oh my god, you're your hosts, John Annick 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: Oh Man. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: I don't know when the last time it was that 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: I was this excited to do the Anik and Florian podcast. 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: Maybe last week I was excited for flows YOUFC two 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: twenty five picks. But I am happy to be here today, Monday, 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: June eleventh, twenty eighteen, one fifty nine Annik and Florian Podcast. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: The Florida Sky is doing some really fucked up things today. 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: What's going on? 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: I've just never seen a state or a sky do 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: the things that this Florida Sky does. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: So right now the Wi fi is working. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: It's just a lot of lightning and thunder and noise. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: It shakes your property. So I'm hopeful that we're going 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: to get through this show without any technical difficulties. I 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: didn't see a minute of the post fight show except 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: for that has been comington interview, So I don't know 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: how you feel about a lot of these fights. 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: Sure, let's get into it. 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: It makes me excited. I'm just gonna tilt my headroom 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: there and that video is good, guys, So yeah, I 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: don't know what you feel about these fights. I've been 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: dying to ask you about seam Punk and Mike Jackson, 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: which was an interesting fight to call, to say the least. 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: And how about the quote from Dana White on Mike Jackson. 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what that guy did for a living 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: before we gave him the shot, but whatever it was, 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: he needs to go back and do that again. I 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: mean that is there's a lot of comedic value in 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: that line. And say what you want about the fight, 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: which we will get to, but that is really funny 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: out of the promoter as far as I'm concerned right 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: after the fact, and Dane, of course, I'm going to 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: say he's owing to as far as I'm concerned, But 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: a lot to get into there, obviously when it comes 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: to UFC two twenty five, and we're going to talk 40 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: to Ray Longo off the top of the show, He's 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: got a lot of thoughts on this as well. Joel 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: Romero and Robert Whitaker just turn in the Fight of 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: the Year and Ken Flow's really excited about Whittaker and 44 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: I think his future right the fact that you spoke 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: to me off the air today, right, and just the 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: way history is going to perceive this effort and this toughness. 47 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: So I know you're excited to talk about Robert Whittaker today, 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: and I'm told we have Ray Longo. 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: So let's get to the New Yorker. 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes. 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna putch a hole in this fu. 52 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted the Ray Longo minute. During Ray 53 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: long John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast. 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: I had to tell Chris Widman Kentflow when I was 55 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: in Chicago that Widman was trying to steal his thunder 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: last week. 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: I didn't understand. 58 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: We gave Ray Longo his minute, right, his segment, and 59 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: then we had Chris Widman on thereafter, and Ray kept 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: walking back into the shop. Yeah, like I just wanted 61 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: more than his fifteen minutes. 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 4: It's great. 63 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: I mean, we've already extended his minute, and now he's hey, yeah, 64 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 5: there's a superstar. 65 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: This is what happens when you become a superstar. You 66 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: just kind of wow, skewed reality. 67 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: Well, I know we're going to talk to him about 68 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: Whittaker and Romero, but when he sends me a text 69 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: message during a show. That's usually what I lead with, 70 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: and he sent me a text message soon after the 71 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: sea I'm punk like Jackson fight. So we're going to 72 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: start there with the great Raymond Peter Longo. Ray how's 73 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: your day, kid? 74 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: Oh man? Starting out good? Starting now good. I'm sure 75 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 6: it's gonna go right down negative Street in about twenty 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 6: seconds right now, good. 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Good, Well, look in the camera because we can only 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: see half your face right now, so pick up. 79 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: We want to see it all right, please, there you go. 80 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: You're killing the audio only listeners, right, So, how are 81 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: you a good weekend? 82 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: Did you enjoy UFC two twenty five like the rest 83 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: of us? 84 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 6: But no, I did enjoy it. But it was great 85 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 6: fights obviously. Uh you know the last fight. I thought 86 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 6: it just was a great fight. I don't even want 87 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 6: to say much about it. 88 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 7: I don't know. 89 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 6: I think I'm into minority a little bit. But I 90 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: think the only thing missing from the night was Ashton 91 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 6: Kusha coming out of the stands and telling this weep 92 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 6: them punped. But besides that, Tenny was a good night. 93 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 6: Now that was actually more that was actually mortifying, And 94 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 6: it seems like the common denominates to see him. Punk's 95 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 6: a great dude, and uh, I just wish him. I 96 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 6: don't know, I wish him the best, but that that 97 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 6: was tough to watch, and uh, I don't know, I 98 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: don't even know what to say, but I think he 99 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 6: should thank you El Romero and Whittaker because I think 100 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 6: if that fight would have been dead, everybody would have 101 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 6: been talking about his fight, And because that fight was 102 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: such a great fight, everybody already forgot about the first fight, 103 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 6: which is I think a good which I think is 104 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 6: a really good thing. 105 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: No, I wish I could omit a lot of it 107 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: from memory, and we're going to spend most of the 108 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: show on Whitaker and Romero. But in terms of the 109 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 3: Mike Jackson CM Punk fight, it just seemed to me 110 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: that despite a lot of hard work, that ultimately there's 111 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: only so much you can do to close that gap. 112 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about Mike Jackson the opponent. 113 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: We can get into him and how deserving or not 114 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: he was, but for CM Punk, maybe not enough of 115 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: a naturally or good enough act to close that gap 116 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: with any sort of speed or skill or you know. 117 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, there are a few things he can do. 118 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: We mentioned on the broadcast has a good body lock 119 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: in a clench, But a lot of these guys when 120 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: they pick up MMA, some of the athletic gifts take over, 121 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: and it seemed to a lot of us that there 122 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: weren't a lot of those for Sampuck. 123 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 6: Look, MMA is not a joke. You have talented guys 124 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 6: coming in that struggle to make it, and they go 125 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 6: through a little bit of a farm system. Most of 126 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 6: them they fight amateur first, and there's a reason for that. 127 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 6: You know, you want to get all of those fights 128 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 6: out of your system, make the corrections so by the 129 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: time you get cooled to the big show, you know 130 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 6: you're in a better place. I mean, they I have 131 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 6: to believe they really thought he was gonna beat Mike Jackson. 132 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 6: It looks like they did a great job in finding 133 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 6: a guy that you know, had no wrestling, had no 134 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: jiu jitsu, supposedly was a boxer. But they must have 135 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 6: thought he was gonna win that fight. And I think 136 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 6: when that didn't happen, they all started to short circuit 137 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: and it was kind of it was kind of rough, 138 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 6: and I mean, you know, I think being a fighter 139 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 6: in the UFC and you help grow the sport to 140 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: watch a guy just go on pay per view. I 141 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 6: don't even like Again, I don't even think it's fair 142 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 6: to see him punk. I don't know why he would 143 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 6: want to do that, you know, But I get the business. 144 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 6: I get, you know, putting eyeballs on the screen, But 145 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 6: there's got to be a point where it's just not 146 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: worth it, you know. And I would have loved to 147 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 6: have seen him groomed with some amateur fights like everybody else. 148 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: I think it would have been a really a much 149 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 6: better thing for him to grow on the job in 150 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 6: those fights. There's a reason why you do that and 151 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 6: then take a step up. But to just jump into 152 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 6: one of the toughest sports, if not the toughest sport 153 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 6: in the world without a pedigree, you know, it's not 154 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 6: brock Lesner, who was an NCAA Division Ie wrestling champ, 155 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 6: or he's nothing. I mean, that's not an easy thing 156 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 6: to do. I mean, I don't know, you know, I 157 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 6: own a gym, so I on a daily basis, I 158 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 6: hear guys coming into that forty five million streets and 159 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 6: they never lost, They never played a sport. 160 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 7: That guy. 161 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, those guys believe they are alive and well Kenny, 162 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 6: you're gonna you're gonna come across a couple, you know, 163 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 6: and at your jiu jitsus. 164 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: I never fought the cage. That was more of a 165 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: street fighter myself. I was undefeated exactly. 166 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 6: There you go. You know, so, man, it just doesn't 167 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 6: work like that. These are athletes, and these are guys 168 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 6: that normally come in with some sort of pedigree, and 169 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 6: man was I don't know, I just uh, I think 170 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 6: if he had it all over it, I think even 171 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 6: he would probably want to just give me a couple 172 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 6: of amateur fights. Let's see where we're at. But you know, I, 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 6: you know, I don't. 174 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: Know, Ray, do you think this is kind of like 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 5: I kind of see this as almost a good thing 176 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 5: in a way, because this was an experiment, and like 177 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: you said, with a guy who didn't have any combat 178 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 5: sports experience, he seeing Puck was not a wrestler, he 179 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: was not a boxer, a kickboxer or whatever it was. 180 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: And the UFC put this fight together. It was not 181 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: a good fight. I mean for me, I feel like 182 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 5: this is not a good sign for anyone else without 183 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 5: a combat sports background who wants to fight in the 184 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 5: UFC one day. Now, I just don't see that happening. 185 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 7: Now. 186 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: We tried this experiment, it didn't go well. Is that 187 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: the way you see it? 188 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 6: But I just think, you know, you know, I just 189 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 6: think put that thing on fight Pass, throw that platform 190 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 6: with the numbers, you know what I mean. Like they're 191 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 6: all guys that really want to fight, they really want 192 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 6: to get paid. They put on the show, and I 193 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 6: think it just sent a bad message to all the 194 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 6: guys that are try and at a time when we 195 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 6: need really you know, integrity and quality in the sport 196 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 6: where you're making great matches and we're bringing back the 197 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 6: fan base. I just I don't get it, you know 198 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 6: what I mean. Unless you want to go to like 199 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 6: a total entertainment model and start grabbing guys and making 200 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 6: these type of fights, that's a different story. But you know, 201 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 6: I've been in this thing a long time, and you 202 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 6: know that was almost like going back to UFC three, 203 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Just take anybody and you 204 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: see how they do. And I think I could beat 205 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 6: this guy and that that was it. And I'm sure 206 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 6: this guy worked his ass off. I mean, Duke's a 207 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: great coach. I think it has nothing to do with that. 208 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 6: It's just man I don't know you're jumping in Like 209 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 6: if you've never played baseball, right and you think you're 210 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 6: going to train for a year and then go up 211 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 6: against a major league pitcher. I mean, I just I 212 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 6: don't get it. I don't think it works like that. 213 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 6: These guys are playing baseball since they're ten years old. 214 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 6: You know, it's just ingrained in them. So I don't 215 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 6: even think it was fair to him. But you know whatever, 216 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 6: I mean, Like again, the common denominator seems to be 217 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 6: he's a great dude, which I'm sure he is, and 218 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 6: I think that's why, you know, he kind of gets 219 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 6: a pass on a lot of things. 220 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 5: Ray, we had another controversial way in with Yo Romero 221 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: not making weight. 222 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: First of all, what did you think about that? 223 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 5: And do you think the later wins is something that's 224 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: going to solve this issue going forward? 225 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 6: No, I don't think anything will solve the issue with 226 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 6: with the weight thing, to be honest with. The only 227 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 6: thing that will solve it is if you miss weight 228 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 6: enough fighting. I think at this point we discussed it already. 229 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 6: It's not a monetary thing. I don't think it's at 230 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 6: any time of the day they're gonna they're gonna find 231 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 6: a way to try to, you know, do whatever his 232 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 6: best for their advantage. But you know, look, but I'm 233 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 6: bitching about the weight thing. I'm like three four pounds, 234 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 6: eight pounds. You know, that just shows that you didn't 235 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 6: even try. This guy looks like he came close. So 236 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 6: I don't want to, you know, I don't. I don't know. 237 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 6: I don't feel like bashing him on that. But there's 238 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 6: a guy that's an Olympic caliber wrestler. I just don't 239 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 6: get it, you know what I mean, he knows how 240 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 6: to make weight, to miss two times in a row, 241 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 6: and to have this happen, and to put a blemish 242 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 6: on what was a fucking great fight. Man, I don't know, 243 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 6: you know. But again, nobody's gonna talk about the weight loss. 244 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 6: We said this with with till end, wonder Boy, that's 245 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 6: by by by tomorrow and that'll be gone. It'll be that, 246 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 6: you know, Roell. You know Romero got robbed, you know, 247 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 6: not nothing to do with the weight loss. So whatever 248 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 6: it is, what it is. It was a great fight 249 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 6: though for both guys. Man, they showed they really wanted 250 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: to be their durability, both of them resilience. I can't 251 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 6: say a bad word about the fight. It was fantastic 252 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 6: and I don't know, really good stuff. 253 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: Certainly a front runner or in that conversation with probably 254 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: any number of Justin Gaetgee fights for the Fight of 255 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: the Year in twenty eighteen, but around of the year 256 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: in there as well, and just next level toughness out 257 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: of both guys, and Whittaker in particular, but unlike Darren 258 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,239 Speaker 3: Till though I guess ray it will have some residue 259 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: because there were not championship stakes. So for Yoel Romero, 260 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: this is the type of performance even though the judges 261 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: didn't see it for him that could propel him into 262 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: what Dana White talked about before the fight, a number 263 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: one contender type fight at two hundred and five pounds 264 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: against somebody like Alexander Gustafson. Now he's relinquishing size there. 265 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: But do you think this result first fighter in UFC 266 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: history to miswait for two UFC title fights, will force 267 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: him to move up to the light heavyweight division. 268 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 6: Uh. I don't think it'll force him to move up, 269 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 6: But I think you know a fight I would love 270 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: to see Joel Romero against DC. I would love to 271 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 6: see that fight. They're both kind of like the same size. 272 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 6: They're both stocky guys, they both have a great wrestling pedigree. 273 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 6: I think that's a fantastic fight at two five. I 274 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 6: think that would be a really entertaining fight. I'd love 275 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 6: to see what happens in that fight. 276 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: And if Daniel loses to Steve A Miaciic in four weeks, 277 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: then that could certainly become a reality. And Joel's forty 278 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: one years old, I mean, just say credible. And I 279 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: think the cutman deserves credit here to Ray Rudy Hernandez. 280 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: I believe was the cutman on Joel Romero because you 281 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: know there are varying degrees of levels to these cutmen, right, 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: and the fact that he was able to do the 283 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: get the swelling nipp it in the bud very quickly, 284 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: I thought, help Yoel stay in the fight and produce 285 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: that type of rally. 286 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: But man, this right, really. 287 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: Great, great point, Great point though, Johan, because I thought 288 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 6: that I was going to close in whatever round it happened, 289 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 6: and it came out after that, after his men in 290 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 6: the corner looked like he was gonna be fine, that 291 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 6: he could see out of it, which was phenomenal. So 292 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 6: I think you're bringing up something I haven't heard yet, 293 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: but that's a great point. And Rudy obviously has been 294 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 6: around the boxing games. He's got a lot of knowledge. 295 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: So he did a I agree with one hundred percent. 296 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 6: He kept him in that fight, and man, did that payoff. 297 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: For sure and sometimes too. And I was talking to 298 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: Ken Flow, our friend Scotty Riem earlier today just about 299 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: cut man and how sometimes there's preventative measures that they 300 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: have to ask the coach to allow them to do, 301 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: and they're not always afforded the opportunity to try to 302 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: deal with some swelling even though there isn't to cut yet, 303 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: to try to prevent a cut going forward. So I 304 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: thought that was something worth bringing up, all right, before 305 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: we let you go, my man, Colby Covington Hafayel Dosanzos. 306 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: I was blown away by Colby's performance and the fact 307 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: that he is able to keep up this pressure style 308 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: over twenty five minutes. 309 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the new UFC and welterweight champion. 310 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, I picked the Dosgos, but man, 311 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 6: that relentless aggression and the ability to endure punishment going 312 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 6: forward was phenomenal, and he he deserved that win. A 313 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 6: lot of guys are saying that was closer than I thought. 314 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 6: But uh, I thought Kobe did a great job and 315 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 6: taking whatever do Sanyo's had, and he just kept grinding 316 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 6: it out, grinding it out, grinding it out, and he 317 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 6: looked like a guy that refused to lose and he 318 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 6: was going to get what he wanted. And hats off 319 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 6: to him a bit of you know, a little wacky, 320 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 6: but he did. He did get the job done, and 321 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 6: I didn't think he could he could do it like that. 322 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: So I think he's he now goes to being a 323 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: little bit of a problem for some of the one seventies, 324 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 6: especially if you don't have a gas tank, you're in 325 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 6: trouble with him. And that that's the way I would 326 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 6: like to see Gaechee fight, you know what I mean, 327 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 6: Like if he was fighting, mixing the takedowns, you got 328 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 6: great strikes, you know what I mean? His guy, you 329 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like it looks like he's got 330 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 6: the cardio to do that. But Covington did it. Man. 331 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 6: I think his stand ups, you know, not where it 332 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 6: should be, but man, he makes up for He looks 333 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 6: like he's got a great chin and his forward pressure 334 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 6: is phenomenal. 335 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 7: Man. 336 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 6: He just he didn't stop and that was Uh. I 337 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: think that was the story of the fight. 338 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: All right, man? Anything else before we let you fly? 339 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 6: Kenny? What do we got? 340 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 341 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: I mean I could spend the entire show with you 342 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: on this two twenty five business, you know, But I mean, 343 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: how about Curtis Blades elbowing alistair over him space through 344 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: the canvas? 345 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 7: Oh? 346 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 6: No, Blades, that was another good Blades's an he's good too. 347 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 6: But before we go, you guys got any songs you'd 348 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: like me to sing next week or anything? 349 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 350 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: What do we write? 351 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 6: What do you got, Kenny? Give me a song? 352 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 7: What do you got? Well? 353 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: Kenny Ray sent me a video. Ray sent me a 354 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: video of him playing this. 355 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: I didn't see it yet. 356 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 6: I have to get that to you. 357 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: I am gonna I'm gonna do some I'm gonna do 358 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: some planning here. Can you play it on air for us? 359 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 7: Or what? 360 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Next week? 361 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 6: Maybe? I mean, we gotta see what it is. I mean, 362 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: I really technically don't play the guitars right to work on. 363 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: Oh, go and send me that video? 364 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: Come on, what do you want to hear? 365 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: What do you guys, I want you to text Ken Flow. 366 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: This is Ken Flow show prep for next week. You're 367 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: gonna text him the video and he's gonna give you 368 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: a song to play and you'll break out the guitar 369 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: next week on the Anak and floor in podcast. 370 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: It's done. 371 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 6: I like it, man. We gotta get eyeballs on this thing. 372 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 6: Let's go right. 373 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: I think we got Max Holloway next week, but they're 374 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: turning in for Ray. 375 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 6: Longo on there you go, I might break out ay. 376 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: I'll talk to you guys next week. 377 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: Thanks very thank you, Buddy hair Cup for next week too, 378 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: for for Ray long. 379 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: So let's reset this. 380 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Main cod kid Robert Whittaker Joel Romero split decision for 381 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: Whittaker that was not necessarily the score I expected. I 382 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: think we were talking octagon side, that we might be 383 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: looking at a draw. 384 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 7: Uh. 385 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Your overall thoughts on a tremendous fight, an amazing showcase 386 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: for mixed martial arts and why this sport better than 387 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: any that I've seen? 388 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: For sure, I've said this many times. 389 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 5: Some guys are just made to fight each other, and 390 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: Yo Romero and Robert Whittaker are those two men. I 391 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 5: think they're just tailor made for each other to deliver 392 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: exciting fights every single time out. 393 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: What's amazing is you get a. 394 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: Kid from New Zealand and Robert Whittaker trains in Australia. 395 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 5: That's a country that is not really well known for 396 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: its wrestling skills. Whittaker's going up against one of the 397 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 5: best wrestlers we have ever seen compete inside the octagon, 398 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 5: and he's able to stuff these takedowns one after another. 399 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: He's able to get back to his feet if he 400 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 5: needs to. And then we have Romero, one of the 401 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: best wrestlers, of course, as we were talking about, who 402 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: can strike with anybody in that division. Has tremendous power, 403 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 5: tremendous speed, mixes up his strikes and these guys just 404 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: went back and forth and it was almost a redo 405 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: of the first fight in reverse, with Romero kind of 406 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: coming back strong late in the fight. Now, as far 407 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: as the score, I think they had the rounds right right. 408 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 5: They had three rounds for Whittaker to two rounds to Romero. 409 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 5: I thought they had it right. The problem with that 410 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: is I think in that fifth round I had Romero 411 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 5: ten eight. 412 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: In that round he had heard him twice, he had 413 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 4: him dropped. 414 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: He almost finished that fight once, if not twice in 415 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 5: that fifth round. I thought it probably should have been 416 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 5: a ten eight. It would have been a draw. I 417 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: would not have had a problem with that. And it 418 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 5: was just a fantastic fight. Whittaker again dealing with an injury, 419 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 5: fighting with what we think is. 420 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 4: Is a broken hand. 421 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: Did you see the X ray? No, I did not, 422 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: as his thumbs like in two pieces. See, so there 423 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: it's broken obviously. So yeah, I mean this guy's toughness. 424 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 5: This is gonna be one of those fights again if 425 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: it wasn't in the first fight against Romero, one of 426 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 5: those fights that comes to define Robert Whittaker as a fighter. 427 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 5: And I don't know if we truly appreciate just how 428 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 5: damn good this guy is. His humility, his ability to 429 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: perform under tremendous pressure, the fact that what he's still in. 430 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: His mid twenties is just insane. 431 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: That he's able to do this here against a tremendous 432 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: fighter and Jo Romero in this fashion. 433 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: So I was just blown away. 434 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 5: Robert Whittaker will become a legend in this sport, no 435 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 5: doubt about it. 436 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 4: Man. 437 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: Well, and that was the word I used when I 438 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: was able to peek my head into the ambulance. I 439 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: just said, man, are you an absolute legend? And Kenny, 440 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: when we called his UFC debut when he won tough 441 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: Smashes in twenty twelve, we knew he was special. Maybe 442 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: we didn't know he would be this special, but for 443 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: a long time, most people felt like this was going 444 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: to be. 445 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: The first Australian to break through. 446 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: As I sort of said at the outset of the 447 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: pay per view, and man did he break through? And 448 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: you're right, he's only twenty seven years old, and you 449 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: know this is jiu jitsu based fighter. He's become a 450 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: special striker, right, but he is a dedicated jiu jitsu player. 451 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: And it was brought to my attention actually after the 452 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: broadcast that he made be Australian national freestyle wrestling team 453 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: in his spare time. So this is a five tool player. 454 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: This is a mentally strong fighter who rises to the occasion. 455 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: I mean, tough as anything goes for the finish. We 456 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: always trop back that quote, no better place to break 457 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: your hand than inside the octagon, and I think that's 458 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: gonna be something he's gonna have to deal with, Kenny, 459 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: that he he fights to finish and his hands are 460 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: breaking off it right inside the octagon. This is not 461 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: just the first time that it has happened, and because 462 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: he throws to try to get you out of there. 463 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: I also think that a fight like this is something 464 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: that helps you accrew MMA Miles, maybe quicker than you 465 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: would like to, but I agree with you, Matt. I mean, 466 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 3: if one fight can put you in the UFC Hall 467 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: of Fame, I mean, I know he's just getting started, 468 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: but I'm excited to see where he can go. And 469 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: don't you sort of think that the result is less 470 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: consequential because of the Romero weight miss right, I. 471 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 5: Mean, well it should, And that's exactly what I was thinking. 472 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 5: I was like, you know, the fact that they have 473 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: this result go down the way that it did. You know, 474 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 5: Romero didn't make weight at the end of the day, 475 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 5: Not that that's how you judge a fight, but as 476 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 5: far as the way it all worked out, it did 477 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: work out for the best in the end. But I 478 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 5: did think that was a ten eight round in the fifth. 479 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: But I could watch these guys fight every couple of months, 480 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: I mean, and I think they would deliver exactly like 481 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: that every single time. 482 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: It was a fantastic fight. 483 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 5: Again, this is one of these legendary fights we will 484 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 5: remember for a very long time. And again, Whittaker is 485 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 5: definitely something special man. The way that he adjusted to 486 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: that lead leg attack from Romero, I knew he had 487 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 5: to come up with some kind of solution because if 488 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: I'm your Romero, I'm going right back to the well 489 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: on that lead leg, I'm gonna attack that knee again. 490 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: Romero tried to. 491 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 5: Whittaker was able to adjust and actually was attacking his 492 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: knee and I think injured it several times during that fight. 493 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: So just brilliant stuff from Whittaker and his ability to adapt, 494 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: evolve and improve as a fighter. 495 00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: Just loved it. 496 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: And by the way, he was one hundred and eighty 497 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: nine pounds on Tuesday, as Rogan said on the broadcast, right, 498 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: so he's fighting at his natural weight and that I 499 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: think allows him. 500 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: To do that. 501 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: And you can be sure that if this was a 502 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: welterweight fight in Whittaker, well, I shouldn't speak in such absolutes, 503 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: but I feel pretty convicted in saying if this was 504 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: a welterweight fight and Robert Whittaker had some nasty weightcut, 505 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: then he probably doesn't survive. I don't even know how 506 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: he survived and didn't get finished this night by Joel Romero, 507 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: given some of the shots he took. So, you know, 508 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: fighting your natural weight maybe helps brain rehydration and maybe 509 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: helps you survive some of that damage. But I think 510 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: some time off is in order for Robert Whitaker. I 511 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: know that's probably not what he's looking for because he 512 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: just had a year off. But as we spin it forward, 513 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: maybe it's the year end show for Whittaker. Maybe there's 514 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: a late year Australia show, but I don't know if 515 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: that would even be a pay per view if they 516 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: went down there again. So for Whittaker forgetting about the timeline, 517 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: who is next? I mean, I feel like the strongest 518 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: argument certainly can be made for Kelvin Gastolom he was 519 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: the name that was on standby. Is that the next 520 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: UFC Middleweight championship fight. I think that's the fight that 521 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: makes sense right now. I think with all the guys 522 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: that are out there and what we've had for the 523 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: past few results in that division amongst the elite, I 524 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: think Kelvin Gaslam deserves that next shot. I think, you know, 525 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: I think it's an interesting fight. 526 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 5: Number one, and I think right now he's the guy 527 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 5: at the top who has you know, most of the 528 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 5: consistency in that division, and you look at the guys 529 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 5: that he's beaten. It's a fantastic fight and I think 530 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 5: Calvin deserves it most right now. 531 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: And when you look at the middleway top five in 532 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: a lot of respects, it's hard to make an argument 533 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: for someone else. I will do it though, and I 534 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: talked about Chris Wyman last week when he was on 535 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 3: the program. He does have the head to head win 536 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: and finish of Gasolim in his last fight, But since 537 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: that fight, right Gasolam has two wins, a finish of 538 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: Michael Bisping and then the decision win over Zaka day Sosas. 539 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: So I think Gasolum is really hard to deny as 540 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: far as Joel Romero in this equation and flow. I 541 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: just think it's hard with the two weight misses and 542 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: the two head to head losses to Robert Whittaker to 543 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 3: make an argument for Romero. So in that in that respect, 544 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: the decision is consequential, right because if this was one 545 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: one now or even a draw, maybe Dana White would relent. 546 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: But when when you couple the judges scorecards with the 547 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: two weight misses, it would seem to me that this 548 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: conversation really comes down to gasolom and then an outside 549 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: shot for Chris Wadman. 550 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: Maybe listen the UFC and the fans. 551 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 5: They want a fighter who's gonna step on the scale, 552 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 5: make weight and make that championship fight happen. And if 553 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 5: you're that guy who's not able to do that not once, 554 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: but twice in a row for a belt, you're just 555 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: you're just not going to be reliable for the organization. 556 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 5: So it was a huge mistake for Romero, a tremendous 557 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 5: miscalculation by their team. 558 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: You have you have to be on it again. 559 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 5: If you're not getting up and making weight for a 560 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 5: championship fight, then what fight are you going to make 561 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: weight for? 562 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: What fight are you going to be up for? What 563 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 4: fight are you going to be a professional? 564 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: For sure? 565 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: Well, the biggest winner of the night was the man 566 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: who left with a new gold belt, Colby Covington. And 567 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: to that end, as we continue with our two twenty 568 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: five recap, now with us on the guest line, the 569 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: owner and founder of American Top Team, a man who 570 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: this past Saturday night saw one of his prize recruits 571 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: with a UFC championship. 572 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: Dan Lambert is with us Dan John and Kenny here Man. 573 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 7: How are you, hey, guys, I'm good. How are you? 574 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: You're doing well? 575 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: So you said prior to the fight, Dan that the 576 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: hardest thing to do in pro sports, and I think 577 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: Kenny and I largely agree is to develop an MMA fighter, 578 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: homegrown from the beginning, and turn him into a UFC champion. 579 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 3: And that's what you guys have done here. I know 580 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: there have been a lot of big wins for you, 581 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: but I gotta think this one is as satisfying as 582 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: any individual win in your career. 583 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 584 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's fair. It's really a dauntine task 585 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 7: to I mean, I don't think people realize how many 586 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 7: athletes you need to have go thro your gym just 587 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 7: to get somebody that good enough to make it to 588 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 7: the UFC. And then how many of those guys you 589 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 7: need to go through to get someone who's good enough 590 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 7: to be successful in the UFC. And how many of 591 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 7: those you have to go through to get somebody who's 592 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 7: successful enough to be in a title fight in the UFC. 593 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 7: And then how many of those it takes to actually 594 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 7: win that belt. I mean, it's a crazy, crazy task 595 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 7: and to see somebody come from, you know, cradle to champion, 596 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 7: it's pretty satisfying. 597 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: So when I spoke to Colby on Thursday, he said 598 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: one of his biggest motivations to win the title was 599 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: to do it for you and to sort of give 600 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: you that and prove your faith right in him. I 601 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: don't know if you know this, but right after the fight, 602 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: both Colby Covington and Mike Brown at separate times, went 603 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: over to the Oxs got to try to find you 604 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: where they knew you were sitting and you were nowhere 605 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: to be found. I don't know if they brought that 606 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: up with you after the fact, but they did both 607 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: go to go try to find you right after the fight. 608 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 7: Oh that's cool. Now, I was actually over by the 609 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 7: door waiting to greet those guys and congratulate them. And 610 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 7: that's nice for Colby to say that was a big 611 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 7: motivation for him. I think he probably he was more 612 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 7: excited about the opportunity to get a mic and talk 613 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 7: some more ship than that. 614 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: Dan. 615 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: So here we have Time Woodley, who has obviously been 616 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 5: representing you guys, as well, how do you approach this, 617 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 5: and I'm sure you you must have saw this coming. 618 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 5: It does get tricky. You guys are a world class 619 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 5: facility where a lot of fighters want to be I imagined. 620 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: You know, this isn't gonna be the for This isn't 621 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: the first time, this is not going to be the 622 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: second time. How do you approach this, as you know, 623 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 5: someone who runs att here with two of your guys 624 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: essentially going at it for a bell. 625 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, on the one hand, you got to 626 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 7: sit there and be pretty pretty happy to see two 627 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 7: guys that you've been with for a long time climb 628 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 7: that mountain and be so successful and win fights and 629 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 7: win championships and get pay per view bonuses and be 630 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 7: in a position to fight in big fights for titles. 631 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 7: So that that's you know, that's that's great. It's it's 632 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 7: very gratifying. I'm happy for those guys and their families. 633 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 7: On the other hand, it really sucks. I mean this 634 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 7: this is not Major League Baseball where they're gonna go 635 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 7: play against each other on Sunday afternoon and then hop 636 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 7: on a plane and fly to the next town and 637 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 7: it's just another regular season game on Monday these guys 638 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 7: are getting into a cage and they're gonna try to 639 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: hurt each other, and at the end of that fight, 640 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 7: you know, somebody is the undisputed champ and they're going 641 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 7: on to bigger and better things and bigger paydays, and 642 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 7: you know, the other guys going back to the you know, 643 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 7: to the to fight his way up the ladder again, 644 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 7: and he's going back to that base non title fight 645 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: compensation clause in his contract, and it's gonna be a 646 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 7: devastating night for one of them. So you know, normal 647 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 7: title fights, you your guys gonna win or your guys 648 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 7: gonna lose. You know you're gonna go home happier sad, 649 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 7: and then this one, you know, you know you're gonna 650 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 7: go home sad for somebody. So, I mean it's there's 651 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 7: good and bad. I mean, it is what it is. 652 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 5: How have you guys adjusted as a team for this eventuality, 653 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: because I know that you guys have changed things a 654 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 5: little bit right, And how you guys do your training sessions? 655 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 656 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 7: Well? I mean, if if if there's a wrinkle to this, 657 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 7: and that's that that that Tea Wood has his own 658 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 7: gym in Saint Louis his own att gym that he 659 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 7: does his day training and then and then when it 660 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 7: comes time for fight camps, he does the majority of 661 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: his camps and the majority of the time in those 662 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 7: camps up with Duke in Milwaukee, and Duke Rufus has 663 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 7: a really good gym with a ridiculous win percentage. If 664 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 7: you ever track those numbers in the UFC, it's kind 665 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: of astounding. So he does come down from time to time. 666 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 7: He does parts of camps down at our headquarter facility. 667 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 7: Like for the Maya fight, he came down for a 668 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 7: couple of weeks because we had a lot of high 669 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 7: level jiu jitsu guys that could that could mirror that game. 670 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 7: And if NF T would call me and we and 671 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 7: Dean Thomas's runs his camps, who's one of our coaches 672 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 7: at the daily fixture at our gym, even though he 673 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 7: goes up to Duke's to work with T would So, 674 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 7: I mean, if if he called me tomorrow, if Dean 675 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 7: came with tomorrow and said hey, T would want to 676 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 7: come down and do part of his camp or even 677 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: a full camp down at the head quarter facility. I mean, 678 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 7: his belt is in our trophy case and his pictures 679 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: up on our wall and our doors are always open 680 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 7: to him. And if that were the case, you know, 681 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 7: they wouldn't be training next to each other. You know, 682 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 7: We've we've got a we we've got a big gym, 683 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 7: We've got different areas in the gym, and there's different 684 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 7: times of the day and different training partners that he 685 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 7: could that they could each work with. I don't know 686 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 7: what their plan is to do. That's going to be 687 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 7: up to them, not up to us. But if if 688 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 7: that's if they want to be down here for part 689 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 7: of it, I mean there's no not a chance in 690 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 7: the word I'm saying no to that guy. That's pretty cool. 691 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: Dan Lambert with us here on the Anakin floor in podcast. So, 692 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: as far as Colby Covington, the Fighter is concerned, NonStop 693 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: pressure wrestling, outstanding Cardio great Chin seems to raise his 694 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: game for the moment, which might be his most special attribute. 695 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 3: I mean, when you break down the fighter, what do 696 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: you think it is that has allowed him to realize 697 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: the UFC title at you know, twenty seven to twenty 698 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: eight years old. 699 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 7: I mean, it's actually interesting that you say that he 700 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 7: raises his game at the time. You know, when he 701 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 7: first came down here and he had never fought before, 702 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 7: and he was down with us maybe for a year 703 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: or so before we got him some fights. And you know, 704 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 7: he got into the UFC relatively quickly. I mean I 705 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 7: don't know how many fights he had at the time. 706 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 7: He ab been four or five, and I didn't think 707 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 7: he was ready. He was bugging me. He's always one 708 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 7: of the big fighting for the day got here. I 709 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 7: want to fight in the bigger shows. I don't want 710 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 7: these smaller fights. Like, dude, you know, the first time 711 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 7: you get punched in the face, you wanted to be 712 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: in a smaller show. You know, let's let's get you 713 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 7: some experience. And he actually pushed me a few times 714 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 7: about getting the shows and I told him, no, I 715 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: don't think you're ready. You need more fights. And he 716 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 7: ended up getting into the UFC through somebody else when 717 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 7: the Macal show popped up and they needed somebody to 718 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 7: fight a local guy that didn't have very many fights, 719 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 7: and they didn't want to bring some killer in who had, 720 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 7: you know, a fifteen and one record or something along 721 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 7: those lines, so they brought Colby in and I wasn't 722 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: happy about it. I went to that show. I went 723 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 7: to that show. I actually went with Tea Wood fought 724 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 7: Stun gun Kie yep, the on the I was going 725 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 7: over there with Tea would to be with him for 726 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 7: that fight, and I think I cornered him in the fight, 727 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 7: and you know, Colby happened to be there and I 728 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 7: was watching his fight. I think I cornered Colby as well, 729 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 7: and walked out with him there, and I remember staying 730 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 7: to myself, this is just too much for this young kid. 731 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 7: And he went out there and he looked better than 732 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 7: he ever had, and I'm thinking, well, you know what, 733 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 7: maybe it took a big show or a bigger stage 734 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 7: to get this guy to step up his game because 735 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 7: he looked better than he had on the local shows 736 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 7: against lesser talent. So yeah, that's a part of it. 737 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 7: That's a good observation on your part. But I mean, 738 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 7: the guy's just I mean, he's got a third lung, 739 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 7: he's got a motor. The pace in that fight was 740 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 7: really cool to see up close. And you know, hats 741 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 7: off to RDA man. That guy's got a motor that 742 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 7: doesn't quit on his side too. But uh, I mean 743 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 7: he talks to talk and he definitely talks the talk, 744 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 7: but man, he walks it too, so you know, hats 745 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 7: off to him. 746 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: He certainly does. And he's thirty years old. 747 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: I stand corrected, And it was cool to see your 748 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: reaction when the scorecards were being announced, and once you 749 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: heard that forty nine forty six, you knew it was 750 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: Colby's because if there was going to be a four 751 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: to one, you knew it was with your guy. 752 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: A couple of things on the way out. 753 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: So in the mid nineties you had a grappling team 754 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: that sort of evolved into an MMA team. You officially 755 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: coined an American Top team in two thousand and one. 756 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: So have you exceeded most of your initial goals and expectations. 757 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you've created arguably the greatest mix martial arts 758 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: team of all time. 759 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: That wasn't necessarily your your goal at the outset. 760 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 7: No, we were kind of just like a boys club, 761 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 7: you know, were we traveled and we went to jiu 762 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 7: jitsu competitions and we competed and it was just for fun. 763 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 7: And you know, a couple of the guys were like, hey, man, 764 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 7: I want to fight, and you know, there weren't very 765 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 7: many shows back there at the time, and they were small, 766 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 7: and we went and it was fun. Then you know, 767 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 7: three guys fighting turned into six and six turned into twelve, 768 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 7: and you know, I never expected the sport to get 769 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 7: to where it got. I mean, I loved it and 770 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 7: I liked it, but it didn't have a big audience, 771 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 7: and it didn't have it didn't have the means to 772 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 7: get out to the masses, you know, back at the time, 773 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 7: and it's just mind boggling to me. I think back 774 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 7: to shows where you know, we used to put on 775 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 7: our own shows because there was no place for our 776 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 7: guys to fight, and we'd be in the locker room 777 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 7: the day of the show taking a hand count on 778 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 7: how the rules were going to be. You know, how 779 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 7: many who want the kicks to the head legal When 780 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 7: you're on the ground, you raise your hand, and that's 781 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 7: how we're picking rules for these fights. And to see 782 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 7: where it's come, I mean, it's just it's absolutely mind boggling. 783 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 7: And I'm, you know, thankful to have a pretty good ride, 784 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 7: on a good seat on a on a hell of 785 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 7: a ride. 786 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: I would say, so, all right, last thing, I know 787 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: you are a lifelong pro wrestling fan. I did see 788 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: the tremendous promo you recently cut for Impact Wrestling. Did 789 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: you then have a wrestling appearance for them or did 790 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 3: I did I read that wrong? 791 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 7: Actually we were. We were on TV with him for 792 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 7: about a six or seven month period. It was it 793 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 7: was a total of like three TV tapings that we did. 794 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 7: They they get a bunch of shows in the can 795 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 7: at one time, So yeah, we were with them for 796 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 7: quite a while. 797 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: It was a it was pretty fun. We had a 798 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: we had it. We had a blast. Well, it sounds 799 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: like you're living the dream in a lot of respects. 800 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 3: Man Dan Lambert, American Top team owner and founder. Congrats 801 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: man on a big win for the team for Colby Covington. 802 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: Enjoyed the rest of the week, and we appreciate your time, 803 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: your inside time. 804 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 7: I appreciate that. And if I could say one thing, 805 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 7: I was I was listening to you guys when I 806 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 7: was on hold, and I know there's been some talk 807 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 7: about the whole Romero weight mys and I fully understand 808 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 7: how people get upset when guys make weight and misweight, 809 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 7: and I think it's, you know, ninety nine point nine 810 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 7: nine nine percent of the time, it's the fighter's fault. 811 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 7: But there was certainly a different set of circumstances in 812 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 7: this and I don't know if the story's gotten out. 813 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 7: And if you give me two minutes, I'll tell you 814 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 7: what happened. I'll go ahead in the room. You know 815 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 7: the rules of the commission state, you know between nine 816 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 7: and eleven you've got to make weight. If in every 817 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 7: commission is different. In this commission it was if you 818 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 7: were less than three pounds overweight and you're deemed medically 819 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 7: fit to continue cutting weight, they will give you two 820 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 7: more hours. And those are the rules, and the rules 821 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 7: are the rules, and in that regard, it doesn't matter 822 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 7: if you make weight at nine oh one or if 823 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 7: you make weight at twelve fifty five during the extra period, 824 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 7: if you're deemed fit to have it, you well showed up. 825 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 7: He was a pound over They gave him the two hours. 826 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 7: They took twenty minutes doing his medicals to see if 827 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 7: he was fit to continue cutting. They said he was fine. 828 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 7: We went up to his room. We had an hour 829 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 7: and a half left. There were three doctors present, two 830 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 7: from the Commission, one from the UFC, and they said 831 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 7: he was fine. We said, man, an hour and a half. Cool, 832 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 7: take the first half hour and just relax. You just 833 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 7: walk downstairs. You're a little light headed, you know, I mean, 834 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 7: the cutting weight isn't the easiest thing in the world. 835 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 7: I'm sure Kenny can attest to. So he chilled out 836 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 7: for half an hour. The doctors were taking his vitals. 837 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 7: His blood pressure was lower than probably ninety percent of 838 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 7: the people in the room. His vitals were fine. The 839 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 7: doctors were laughing. He goes to get in his bath 840 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 7: with an hour left. We're gonna put him in the 841 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 7: bathroom ten minutes, and then we're gonnaut him our towels for 842 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 7: ten minutes and he's gonna be fine. Four minutes into 843 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 7: the bath a phone call comes from ten floors down, 844 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 7: from a commissioner who wasn't there, who said, hey, he's 845 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 7: got to come down right now. We're cutting off the time. 846 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 7: He needs to come way in right now. Geez, our parts. 847 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 7: What are you talking about? They said, we had two hours, 848 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 7: We got fifty five minutes left. Sorry, guys, she's our boss. 849 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 7: This is above our pay grade. Get out of the 850 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 7: tub right now, or the fight is off. He gets 851 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 7: out of the tub, we go downstairs. Of course, we 852 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 7: stall for time. I got to go to the bathroom. 853 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 7: I gotta do this, But that's stalling for time. Isn't 854 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 7: cutting weight. It's not being in the tub, it's not 855 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 7: being under wraps, it's sitting down in the air condition 856 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 7: of the weigh in area. Anyways, in two of a 857 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 7: pound over and again, should he have made way between 858 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 7: by eleven o'clock. Yeah, I mean that's that's preferred. But 859 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 7: if you get two hours, you get two hours, right, 860 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 7: So I think he got a bum deal. I think 861 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 7: he's getting a bum rap. I think that commissioner had 862 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 7: a lunch date or somewhere that she needed to be 863 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 7: and I think it's fucking bullshit he got. These are 864 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 7: huge deduction on his purse, and I think it's a 865 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 7: crock of shit. 866 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: Well, these are important details and I'm glad to be 867 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 3: hearing them, and I'm glad that you shared them. And 868 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: obviously maybe you can't recoup the money in certain things, 869 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: but given that the fight was so close, I think 870 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: these are important details to bring to Dana or Mick 871 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: or whomever, because in terms of Joel's merits to run 872 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: this back a third time with Robert Whittaker, you know 873 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: that might change things for some people. 874 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I obviously voiced my concerns to everybody present. 875 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 7: I talked to Dane about it, and I hope they 876 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 7: you know, Dana don't want to blow his reputation with 877 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 7: the fan base, but he's actually a really good guy 878 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 7: and he always does right by the fighters that I've 879 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 7: dealt with over the years. So I think they're going 880 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 7: to treat him right and do the right thing going forward. 881 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 7: But I just and I know how quick people are 882 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 7: to judge guys or girls on the weight issue. And 883 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 7: you know, ninety nine times out of one hundred, you're 884 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 7: dead right to do. So you're a professional, do what 885 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,959 Speaker 7: you got to do at your job. 886 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 5: Well, what's especially what's especially crazy about that, Dan, is 887 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 5: the fact that there was a commissioner who didn't even 888 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 5: see y'all'll yoell and and see how good he he 889 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 5: was feeling and all that stuff, and still didn't even 890 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: let him finish the weight cut. 891 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 892 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 7: Her doctors were sitting by his bed laughing. 893 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: Wow. 894 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 7: There was no medical issues whatsoever. The doctors were there. 895 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 7: I was standing next to him, So I mean, I mean, 896 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 7: if you if you don't get your extra two hours 897 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 7: because they deem you medically unfit to do that extra weightcut. 898 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 7: Absolutely right. That's their job to protect the safety of 899 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 7: the fighter and protect themselves from any liability that comes 900 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 7: from it. But this lady's ten floors down sitting in 901 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 7: the room by the scale, and she had somewhere to go. 902 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 7: What other reason is there? Sure they can give us one, 903 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 7: the doctor said, it's not us, she's our boss. Sorry, guy, 904 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 7: get to get the hell out of the bathtub. That's 905 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 7: just I mean, that's bullshit. 906 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah right, And of course many other issues. Lack of 907 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 3: a ten eight in either one of those rounds, and. 908 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I could, I could. I could talk 909 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 7: about that till I'm blue in the face. I mean, 910 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 7: I thought the fifth was a ten eight, you know, 911 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 7: I thought the fourth was a close round. But you know, 912 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 7: it is, it is what it is. You really can't 913 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 7: control that. Like you said, the forty nine forty six 914 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 7: on the Colbi fine, I thought I had Colby forty 915 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 7: eight forty seven. But you know, until until you hear it, 916 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 7: you don't know it. And then when I heard forty 917 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 7: ninety six, I'm okay. Good. At least if it went 918 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 7: one way, that's the way it would go. So you 919 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 7: never know about that. I'm not going to complain about that. 920 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 7: It is what it is. But but the weight cut 921 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 7: two tents of a pound. I mean he needed seven 922 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 7: more minutes in a bathtub. You know, that's just that's terrible. 923 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 3: Well, congrats on largely a big night all around it 924 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: and hopefully everything is done right by Joel Romero. 925 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 2: And again we appreciate the time. 926 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 7: Man. 927 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. 928 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 7: I appreciate it. Thanks, guys. 929 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: All right there he is American Top Team owner and 930 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: founder Dan Lambert. Gotta think we'll have him back on 931 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: the show. 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Go to for 961 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 3: hyms dot com slash Florian. That's for hims dot com 962 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: slash Florian. For hyms dot com slash Florian. So as 963 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 3: far as the oel Romero wait miss Kenny, there's a 964 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 3: big segment of people that just aren't gonna move on 965 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 3: this right when it comes to a fighter missing weight, 966 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 3: because this is something that happened six or eight weeks prior, 967 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 3: and in a championship fight, you know, come in at 968 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 3: one eighty four in a hook as opposed to one 969 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: eighty five point eight or whatever. Right, make sure that 970 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: you come in under and sort of try to get 971 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 3: ahead of it, and maybe you won't deal. 972 00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: With that type of situation. 973 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: But I'm going to table that for a second because 974 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 3: right back to the guest line now, and we're joined 975 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: by a man who, about forty hours ago nearly elbowed 976 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: Alistair Overreiam's head through the octagon floor in Chicago. He 977 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: is UFC heavyweight contender Curtis Razor Blades. Curtis, good to 978 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 3: have you man. Appreciate your time today, sir, how are you? 979 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 6: Thank you? I'm doing pretty good. Appreciate you guys having 980 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 6: me on the show. 981 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 2: Well, it's our pleasure, man. 982 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: And once Ken Flow saw you elbow and Alistair Overreim 983 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 3: like that, I mean, you guys are cut from the 984 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 3: same clock. 985 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: He said. 986 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 3: We got to get Curtis Razor Blades on the show. 987 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 3: So twenty seven years old, man, and what you've done 988 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: over the last year year and a half is pretty incredible. 989 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 3: I know when I sat down with you on Thursday, 990 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 3: you weren't necessarily expected that it could happen this quickly. 991 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 3: Here you are twenty seven years old. In all likelihood, 992 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 3: next for the UFC heavyweight title. 993 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 7: Man. 994 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I've first. 995 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 8: I've first even put loves on, I didn't think i'd 996 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 8: actually realistically be in the UFC and though maybe right 997 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 8: about now so I definitely didn't think i'd be like 998 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 8: fighting what the belt this neither. But I feel like 999 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 8: I'm ready. I feel like another four to five months 1000 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 8: after I heal up and we started getting back to hidden, 1001 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 8: Hidden mins inspiring, I think I can add a lot 1002 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 8: more tools to my game. And uh, I'm always gonna 1003 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 8: have my wrestling in my back pocket, and right I 1004 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 8: honestly do. I'm the best wrestling in the. 1005 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 3: Division and certainly one of the best wrestlers the UFC 1006 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 3: heavyweight division has ever seen. As far as this fight 1007 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 3: itself is concerned. You got back to your stool after 1008 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 3: round one and you said, I just wanted to bank 1009 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 3: that round. I don't know if you prioritize to finish 1010 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: in this fight. But that type of finish, that violence, 1011 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 3: that result, and how definitive it was, I think plays 1012 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 3: a big role in propelling you to the heavyweight title fight, 1013 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 3: whereas maybe a decision might not have. I mean, did 1014 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: you sort of emph going down the stretch, like I 1015 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: gotta get this guy out of there to leave no 1016 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 3: shadow of a doubt that I'm the number one guy. 1017 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the game plan. 1018 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 8: This wasn't something I talked about with my coach, and 1019 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 8: this is just something that I always do. I always want, 1020 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 8: like to win the first round because he usually causes 1021 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 8: my opponent to like pick it up offensively, which opens 1022 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 8: up the hits a lot more So that's. 1023 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 6: All I like to do. 1024 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 8: I like to definibly get the first round that way, 1025 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 8: this second round is a lot more predictable. 1026 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 5: You've beaten two legends in mixed martial arts two in 1027 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 5: a row, one in Mark Hunt, one in Alistair overrehim 1028 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 5: with you still being relatively new to the game. 1029 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 4: Was there a part of you. 1030 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 5: That was a little bit fearful heading into these fights 1031 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 5: against these guys that you grew up really watching. 1032 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 8: I mean, I wouldn't say NFO, but there was a 1033 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 8: lot of respect there because I've seen the handy work. 1034 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 8: I know what they can do, I know how, I 1035 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 8: know how successful they've been doing it. That's why they've 1036 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 8: still around after a little older like Mark Hunt, he's 1037 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 8: forty something like. 1038 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 7: That old. 1039 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 8: I just I know I'm not that guy's the Warriors, Yeah, 1040 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 8: oh yeah, you gotta have a lot of respect for 1041 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 8: these guys. 1042 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 5: Now for you, you were flying under the radar until 1043 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 5: these fights. Now that you've really arrived and people know 1044 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 5: who you are, do you feel more pressure or is 1045 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 5: this kind of give you more confidence heading forward as 1046 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 5: you get closer to this belt. 1047 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 6: I think it's the latter. 1048 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 8: This is I kind of relate this like the pace 1049 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 8: and like the arc of my career. I kind of 1050 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 8: related to like high school wrestling, Like my freshman's sophomore year, 1051 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 8: I was good, but I didn't realize how good I 1052 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 8: was junior year. It kind of like it was a 1053 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 8: moment there was a wrestling match. 1054 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 6: I lost it, but how I lost it. 1055 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 8: It gave me the confidence and once I got that, 1056 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 8: I walked in onto the mat with a lot more 1057 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 8: swag and opened up my offensive game. And I think 1058 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 8: that's what's kind of gonna start happening with this. I 1059 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 8: can feel it in my fietwork the more I watched 1060 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 8: the film for my past couple of fights, even the 1061 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 8: New York fight, it's old nick. 1062 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 6: My footwork. It slows down other guys and not as aggressive. 1063 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 8: It just allows me to be a little better athlete, 1064 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 8: which I usually am. 1065 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 5: Now, if you don't get that next title fight, is 1066 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 5: there another fight that you'd be willing to take. 1067 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 8: I would take in Ghanu. 1068 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie. 1069 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 8: I'm expecting him to beat Derrick Lewis m h and uh, yeah, 1070 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 8: I would I if I'm not gonna get the bell 1071 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 8: because that's first option. Obviously, that's more money, more prestige, 1072 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 8: just a whole nother lifestyle. 1073 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:10,919 Speaker 6: That's why I prefer. 1074 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 8: But if not, Yeah, and Gan, we definitely got to 1075 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 8: run that back. 1076 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. 1077 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 3: You have to heavyweight contender Curtis Razor blades with us 1078 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 3: here on the Anakin Flooring podcast. I know you mentioned 1079 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 3: it was kind of annoying some of the details fighting 1080 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 3: in Chicago, tickets and everything else, but it certainly didn't 1081 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 3: affect your performance overall. 1082 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: Thoughts. 1083 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 3: Now that it's in the rear view mirror on fighting 1084 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: in Chicago and producing that type of result in your hometown. 1085 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 8: I mean, after after I've had, like you said, almost 1086 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 8: forty hours to just relax and the stress is gone 1087 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 8: and able to really like think about and absorb what 1088 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 8: just happened. 1089 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 4: I think it is. 1090 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 8: Amazing to get to finish against the guy of Alice Overwings, 1091 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 8: skill level and just the name, to do that in Chicago. 1092 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 8: The only thing that could have made it any better 1093 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 8: is if I was like the main event. That's the 1094 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 8: only the only way could I could have done that better. 1095 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 8: But other than that, I'm happy with it. I'm very 1096 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 8: very happy with it. 1097 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 3: Well, I got an inkling that your next fight might 1098 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 3: just be a main event. We appreciate the time, man, 1099 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 3: hopefully you can enjoy a congrats on the bonus and 1100 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 3: a huge win, and uh we hope the heavyweight title 1101 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: is next for you. I would imagine you're probably rooting 1102 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 3: for steep A at least just in terms of how 1103 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 3: that would set up for you, right. 1104 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, Uh, I just it's not that like the match 1105 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 8: up better because they both they both present their own problems, 1106 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 8: you know, But I do feel like he just I 1107 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 8: think he's gonna win. 1108 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 4: That's my gut. 1109 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 8: I think he he handles the pressure, he's he's longer, 1110 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 8: he's a decent wrestler. I don't think he's the same 1111 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 8: caliber wrestler as DC, because that would just be disrespectful 1112 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 8: to all those years is Olympian. But I think he's 1113 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 8: good enough and his hands a little better. Plus he 1114 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 8: makes it in the head kicks, and DC we've already 1115 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 8: seen he's a little bit. 1116 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 6: The heights. 1117 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 8: It's the problem makes the head kicks always an option. 1118 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 6: So I just think he's gonna win. I don't know how. 1119 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 8: It could be a high around war or he could 1120 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 8: just catch him on. I don't know, but I definitely 1121 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 8: expected to be. 1122 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 3: Steve Bay and somehow, some way. Man, you got to 1123 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 3: find a way to get your ass to Vegas on 1124 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 3: July seventh. Man, I think it's important that you figure 1125 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 3: out a way to get in the building that night. 1126 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 8: All right, Yeah, I know, I'll definitely have to get 1127 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 8: on that talk my manager. 1128 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 3: All right, man, thank you very much for the time. 1129 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 3: Congrats again, have a good day. 1130 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 6: Thank you guys, you too. 1131 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 3: All right, there he is Curtis Blades with us here 1132 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 3: on the Anakin Flour and podcast. I don't know exactly 1133 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 3: why Tyrone Woodley wasn't in the building with us in 1134 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 3: Chicago to step in the octagondd square off with Kolby Covington. 1135 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 3: But if you're Curtis Blades, right, you produce a result 1136 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 3: like that. Kenny Right, you were in that position when 1137 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 3: you fought Joe Stevenson. We referenced it a couple of 1138 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 3: weeks ago. You're trying to set up a champion hip 1139 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 3: opportunity and you choke the guy unconscious in the first round. Right, 1140 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 3: You're trying to set up a title fight, a decision 1141 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 3: when over Alistair Overreim, who I think we'd all agree 1142 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 3: is not in his fighting prime, might not have been 1143 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: good enough. 1144 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 2: I think this is good enough. 1145 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 3: And the reason why I say his rooting interest is 1146 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 3: for steep A is because everybody else has fought Steepe, 1147 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 3: and if Daniel Cormier wins all of a sudden, maybe 1148 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 3: those two run it back, and that opens up a 1149 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 3: number of different possibilities. When you look at the vision 1150 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 3: right now, I mean, brock Lesner is not coming back 1151 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 3: necessarily anytime soon, and he might be a guy who'd 1152 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: step right into a championship fight, but Curtis Blades is 1153 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 3: on the short list and I'm excited to see how 1154 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 3: far he can take it since we're there. Your thoughts 1155 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 3: on that fight and what Curtis was able to do 1156 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 3: this weekend. 1157 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, one of the most brutalful, brutal 1158 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 5: finishes you will see. 1159 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 4: Those elbows were absolutely nasty. 1160 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 5: I thought there was probably two or three that snuck 1161 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 5: by Dan Mergliotta that probably should have been stopped a 1162 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 5: little earlier. But my goodness, I mean, Overheim is a 1163 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 5: guy who has been there and done that. 1164 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 4: He's very good everywhere. 1165 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 5: I thought Curtis Blade did a great job of being 1166 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 5: very disciplined and very patient because Overheim has the ability 1167 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 5: to kind of lull you to sleep a little bit, 1168 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 5: and he was trying to do that. It's similar to 1169 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 5: what he did against Junior de Santos, where he does 1170 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 5: a whole lot of nothing and he's getting you to 1171 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 5: lose your patients and kind of, you know, leap in 1172 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 5: with with something that you shouldn't and then he catches 1173 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 5: you with a countershot. Curtis Blades did a good job 1174 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 5: of being defensively responsible, staying patient, looking for that perfect 1175 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 5: opportunity to put over. 1176 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 4: Him on his back. 1177 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 5: He did that was winning round after round and then 1178 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 5: in the third round with that killer instinct, got to finish. 1179 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 5: And that's exactly what you want to do, as you said, 1180 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 5: you want to not only win, but win impressively and 1181 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 5: win by a finish. He did that against one of 1182 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 5: the most experienced guys in combat sports period. 1183 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and not just to stoppage win, but one that 1184 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 3: now sits across or a top I should say his 1185 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 3: highlight reel, right, I mean, that is the highlight. 1186 00:51:59,400 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 4: You know. 1187 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't Francis and Gano against Alastair Ovarim necessarily, but 1188 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 3: for Curtis Blade's style. I mean, this was a near 1189 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: perfect finish for him. And as you just heard, he's 1190 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 3: a soft spoken guy, but he's a thoughtful guy. He's 1191 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 3: a coachable guy, you know, not unlike his teammate Neil Magni. 1192 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 3: And he's also a guy who's been the betting favorite 1193 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 3: in every single one of his seven UFC fights. That 1194 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 3: includes being a minus one fifty five favorite against Francis 1195 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 3: in Ghana, whin his UFC debut. That is his only 1196 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: professional loss. So he's ten and one with a no contest. 1197 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 3: You know he wants that in Ghano fight back, but 1198 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: certainly the title fight is his priority. And we also 1199 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 3: said too and sort of just putting a bow on 1200 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 3: this Blades performance. I don't know if he had six 1201 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 3: takedowns in the fight, but if he did, he would 1202 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 3: become the most decorated takedown artist in UFC heavyweight history 1203 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 3: and twenty seven years old, and he's just behind case 1204 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: Velaskiz are just ahead of him. But point being Kenny 1205 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 3: and I said this to him on Thursday. The heavyweight 1206 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 3: division hasn't had a lot of wrestlers like this, or 1207 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 3: at least in terms of their MMA application to wrestling, 1208 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 3: who have been such a problem when it comes to 1209 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 3: their heavyweights. You know, Stepe hasn't faced a wrestler as 1210 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 3: good as Daniel Cormier, right, Curtis Blade's gonna be a 1211 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 3: problem for a lot of these guys. 1212 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 5: Man with his wrestling, he moves very well, and he 1213 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 5: knows how to set up his takedowns very well. He 1214 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 5: gets you to come forward, hits that reactive takedown, and 1215 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 5: he knows how to control you more importantly after he 1216 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 5: hits the takedown. It's one thing to take somebody down, 1217 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 5: but as we saw with Yol Romero, he might be 1218 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 5: able to put you on your back, but he can't 1219 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 5: keep you there. That's been his big problem in my opinion, 1220 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 5: in his career. As good as Yol Romero is both 1221 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 5: as a wrestler as a mixed martial arts fighter, but 1222 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 5: when you get a guy in Curtis Blades who not 1223 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 5: only can take you down, but he knows where to 1224 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 5: keep his head, to keep you down on your back 1225 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 5: and to frustrate you and to get you to waste energy, 1226 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 5: Curtis Blades is right there with the elite. So it 1227 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 5: was great to see him get that result because there 1228 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 5: is some fresh new blood in the heavyweight division now, 1229 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 5: which is always exciting, and this is a guy who 1230 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 5: might be holding that belt in the near future. 1231 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 3: And I, as I meant, and the only guy really 1232 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 3: at the top who hasn't had a shot at the 1233 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 3: current champion, Steve and Miachich, I'm not gonna revisit the 1234 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 3: weight stuff, Kenny, because we have too much to do. 1235 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 3: I do think it's interesting, based upon what we heard 1236 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 3: from Dan Lambert today, to see if the UFC will 1237 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 3: let Yoel Romero's next fight be at middleweight, and even 1238 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 3: then maybe Gastolum's body of work would trump Romero, who 1239 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 3: again does have the two head to head losses to 1240 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 3: Robert Whitaker. You know, but it's gonna be interesting, so Covington, 1241 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 3: I'm blown away by the performance, you know, big game player. 1242 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, here's what friend of the podcast Tyrone 1243 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 3: Woodley had to say, Thanks to MMA Fighting dot Com 1244 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 3: for the transcription. I ain't never in my life, I 1245 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 3: ain't never in my career. I ain't never in my 1246 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 3: existence as an adult human being wanted to fuck somebody 1247 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 3: up so bad, beat somebody so bad, embarrass somebody so bad, 1248 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 3: end his career so bad, take his life so bad. 1249 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 3: And I don't even say that figuratively. Literally, I'm gonna 1250 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 3: try to hurt him so fucking bad that they're never 1251 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 3: gonna want to let me fight in the UFC again. 1252 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,959 Speaker 2: That's a fact. So that's what Tyron Woodley. 1253 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 3: Had to say, Ken Flow, I know a lot to 1254 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 3: digest if you didn't read that before the show today, 1255 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 3: But that's why I wanted to see this fight. You know, 1256 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 3: we love when there are heat on these matchups, and 1257 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 3: I know Tyron will be at times has been reluctant 1258 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 3: to invoke Colby Covington's name. Now, Colby's the guy, and 1259 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 3: as you can hear, that's raw emotion from t Wood 1260 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: it is. 1261 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 5: And again, these are guys with a history right now, 1262 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 5: these guys have trained with each other. They do represent 1263 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 5: the same team over an American top team. They know 1264 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 5: the same people they've sparred before. So there's a lot 1265 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 5: of bad blood here, man, there's a lot of bad 1266 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 5: blood because you know, again, Colby has had Tyron's name 1267 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 5: in his mouth for a very long time. He's been 1268 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 5: talking a lot of trash and Tyron in some ways 1269 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 5: has been waiting for him to deserve that actual shot 1270 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 5: to fight him. 1271 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 4: Well, he now has that. 1272 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 5: And Colby, you could say what you want about him, 1273 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 5: how he talks trash and blah blah blah, but he 1274 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 5: does back it up. 1275 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 7: Man. 1276 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 5: I thought his performance against OURDA was exactly exactly what 1277 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 5: he needed to do to get the win. And to me, 1278 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 5: that shows not only a toughness and a conditioning that 1279 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 5: is far superior to many UFC fighters. 1280 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 4: But it shows an intelligence. 1281 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 5: It shows an intelligent Colby Covington to go out there 1282 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 5: and execute a game plan safely. And we also have 1283 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 5: to say that, you know what, a part of this 1284 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 5: credit should go to his trash talking, because for RDA 1285 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 5: to not be able to get that angle, to not 1286 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 5: be able to move laterally like we've seen him do 1287 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 5: in the past, you got to think there was an 1288 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 5: emotional attachment there and that's where that pressure comes in. 1289 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 5: That's where all that trash talking comes in. You're down 1290 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 5: around against a guy that you absolutely hate, and he 1291 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 5: told you that's exactly what he was gonna do to you, 1292 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 5: and he did that in round one. 1293 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 4: I think that got to RDA a little bit. 1294 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 5: He started to get a little bit nervous, and round 1295 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 5: after round he got a little bit more nervous, which 1296 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 5: allowed Kolby to be that much more successful. RDA was 1297 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 5: continually moving back, not only because of the pressure and 1298 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 5: the ability to cut off the cage like Colby was doing, 1299 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 5: but also I think because of that emotional attachment, he 1300 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 5: wasn't able to think as clearly as as he does 1301 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 5: in most fights. And you just got to give credit 1302 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 5: to Colby. Coveton, man, this guy is as tough as 1303 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 5: he says. It was just a brilliant performance. And I 1304 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,959 Speaker 5: had a too, too. I had a two two heading 1305 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 5: into the fifth round, and again Colby did exactly what 1306 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 5: he needed to do in that fifth round to get 1307 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 5: the victory and get that belt. 1308 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 3: And I didn't see the fight as closely as you did. 1309 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 3: I didn't score it obviously, and maybe would go back 1310 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 3: and do that, But I thought Colby was was ahead, 1311 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 3: and certainly our call reflected that. But what you say 1312 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 3: about Halfael dos aosdubtails with what Jason Perillo said during 1313 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 3: the fight and after the fight. You know, you remember 1314 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 3: after round one he's trying to focus his fighter, you know, 1315 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 3: say stay focused. 1316 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 4: Stay with me. 1317 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 3: And you know, I also will tell you and talking 1318 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 3: to Jason after the fact that in retrospect, they said, 1319 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 3: maybe we should have mixed it up a little bit more, 1320 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 3: right because when they did go to that tape down 1321 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 3: in round four, let's request, he had success. So maybe 1322 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 3: the game plan to mix it up a little bit more. 1323 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 3: But the primary weapon of dos Ajos, well among the 1324 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 3: primary weapons of Dosanjos is that low leg kick, and 1325 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 3: that obviously was not a factor at all, and Colby Covington, 1326 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 3: to your point, deserves a lot of the credit for it. 1327 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see this championship fight I mean, obviously 1328 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 3: you can tell and you can recognize that Tyron Woodley 1329 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 3: has some advantages on the feet and in terms of 1330 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 3: the power, certainly as a striking finisher. But I think 1331 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 3: it's a very competitive matchup and I don't expect Woodley 1332 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 3: to be more than a two to one favorite, that's 1333 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 3: for sure. 1334 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1335 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 5: And one thing, one thing is for sure is that 1336 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 5: you know Tyron being the more being more of a 1337 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 5: technical fighter, right, He's a guy who likes to keep 1338 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 5: a certain pace where he can go out there and 1339 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 5: analyze and move around, be a little bit more comfortable. 1340 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 5: Colby has a style that could really give anybody problems, 1341 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,919 Speaker 5: including Tyron Woodley. I mean, no one wants to fight 1342 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 5: that kind of pace. Uh, Colby will make you suffer. 1343 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 5: He's able to put a pace on you and get 1344 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 5: you to fight his fight extremely well. And yeah, you know, 1345 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 5: Tyron does have the wrestling to stop a lot of 1346 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 5: those takedowns, but it's still a pace that you just 1347 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 5: do not enjoy. There's no fighter out there that wants 1348 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 5: to fight that kind of fight against Colby Covington, and 1349 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 5: that's something he will always have in his back pocket. 1350 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 5: So for Tyron, he's gonna have to be on point 1351 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 5: with his footwork, his wrestling will have to be perfect. 1352 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 5: But you know, does Tyron hit harder than Colby Covington? Absolutely? 1353 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 5: Is he the better striker? 1354 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 4: Yes? Well so was our da. 1355 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah right, well wrestling wrestling, baby, we'll see. I'm still 1356 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,439 Speaker 3: for my money. The best base for mixed martial arts 1357 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 3: and these guys Covington and Gregor gillespiean Curtis Blates taken 1358 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 3: over a couple other main card items and then we'll 1359 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 3: get you out of here, flowing on to May Rocky BJJ. 1360 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 2: When's that beginner's class? 1361 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 5: By the way, we got the fun we got the 1362 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 5: fundamentals class at noon. 1363 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 4: Kid, we're gonna get you over here. We're gonna put 1364 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 4: you me. 1365 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 2: What's a private with chemflow costs? Is the question? 1366 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 3: No, Mike Jackson cmpunk just final thoughts on this and 1367 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 3: you can fast forward to show a minute if you 1368 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 3: really want to. But in terms of Mike Jackson's performance, 1369 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 3: right thirty to twenty six times three. But when I 1370 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 3: sat down with Mike on Thursday, I sort of asked, 1371 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 3: what's the endgame? 1372 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 4: Right? 1373 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 2: You haven't had an MMA fight in two and a 1374 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 2: half years. 1375 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 3: I saw you photographing an Access TV show a couple 1376 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, Like, what are we trying to do here? 1377 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 3: This was a six week training camp for this fight. 1378 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's not like he's a guy who's in 1379 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 3: the gym year round. I do think he would have 1380 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 3: liked to have had another UFC fight later this year. 1381 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: But if that is. 1382 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 3: Indeed the goal, and the goal isn't to be some 1383 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 3: glorified MMA media personality that had a couple fights in 1384 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 3: the UFC, then go out there and dust Cempunk, right, 1385 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 3: And it's hard for me to take him at his 1386 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 3: word when it comes to his desire and urgency to 1387 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 3: get Cmpunk out of there, because I was five feet 1388 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 3: from him, and I felt like at any given time, 1389 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 3: if he was hell bent on getting Punk out of there, 1390 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 3: he would. 1391 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing. 1392 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 5: I think he said he was concerned about getting tired 1393 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 5: in that fight, that he didn't want to gas out 1394 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 5: trying to finish him and then allow Seampunk to come 1395 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 5: into the fight and maybe get the win or start 1396 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 5: to make it really competitive. And again, you know to 1397 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 5: me that that's the approach of someone who was new 1398 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 5: to the game, which he is, right, and this was 1399 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 5: a tough one. Again, if you're gonna put guys in 1400 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 5: there that are zero to one, they don't have a 1401 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 5: whole lot of experience. It's not maybe primarily what they've 1402 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 5: been doing for the last few years. It's you can't 1403 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 5: expect this incredible fight. Right, There's very few John Jones 1404 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 5: is out there. There's very few brock lessners out there 1405 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 5: that with a very short amount of time they can 1406 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 5: go out there and not only be successful and get 1407 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 5: the win, but also look spectacular in that process, or 1408 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 5: look very difficult in that look very tough in that process. 1409 01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 5: It's a very difficult thing mixed martial arts, Right, we 1410 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 5: all know there's so much to learn, and going out 1411 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 5: there and expecting two guys that are zero to one 1412 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 5: to put on this performance that we're all going to 1413 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 5: be excited about, it's a lot. It's a lot, And 1414 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 5: I think this was a lesson for the UFC and 1415 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 5: and for a lot of us who you know, we're 1416 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 5: maybe expecting a little bit more in this fight, and 1417 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 5: this was tough. Again, this was not a technical fight 1418 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 5: by any means. I think Mike Jackson looked better. He 1419 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 5: was the guy that got the win, as he should 1420 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 5: have I would have liked to see him be more 1421 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 5: aggressive in this fight and try to get the finish. 1422 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 4: But again, he's he was oh and one. 1423 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 3: Heading into that fight, you know, right, right, right, I 1424 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 3: had a better record, That's right, That's right. No, I 1425 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 3: just want to revisit that because I'm not intending to 1426 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 3: come down hard on Mike Jackson, and sort of as 1427 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 3: a human being, I feel for the guy a little bit, 1428 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 3: right because I feel like all he would have had 1429 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,439 Speaker 3: to do is sort of just one or two more 1430 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 3: strikes and maybe you sort of start building something a 1431 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 3: little bit. Because if the the endgame is to be 1432 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: this this media analyst, if you have three or four 1433 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 3: UFC fights of experience, it's a lot better than two 1434 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 3: for sure. So all right, any final thoughts on the 1435 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 3: main card, Holly Holm with an outstanding performance against Megan 1436 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 3: Anderson that's going to earn her a title fight, either 1437 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 3: against Chris Cyborg or Amanda Nons. I like the new 1438 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 3: Nes Holly Home fight because it hasn't happened. Ty Toy 1439 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,959 Speaker 3: vasa a big winner as well a big loser after 1440 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 3: the fact because he's drinking everybody else's. 1441 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 2: Spit in shoes. 1442 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 3: And if I if I'd never have to see another shoey, 1443 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm okay with it, dude. I'll tell you maybe that'll 1444 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 3: be our main event challenge bet. 1445 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 5: Little to cheese with a little toe cheese with the beer, 1446 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 5: Oh delicious. 1447 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 3: Tent Flow is such a chermophobe that he would have 1448 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 3: had to agree to do a shoey before the main 1449 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,919 Speaker 3: event challenge started. But see, I wouldn't. I wouldn't spit 1450 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 3: in the shoe right like ty to Vasa. If you 1451 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 3: saw there was a video of him doing another shoey 1452 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 3: in the lobby. He's passing the shoe around, dude, for 1453 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 3: multiple people to spit in it before he pours the beer. 1454 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 5: Why why, I'm just glad I didn't need breakfast today. 1455 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 4: I would have thrown up. 1456 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 5: I did not know that that piece of information about 1457 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 5: the spitting. 1458 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,439 Speaker 4: He's a tough guy. He's a maniac, there's no doubt 1459 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 4: about it. 1460 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 5: Got the win over a very tough Andrea Alawski, who 1461 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 5: seemed very motivated in his hometown here in the States. 1462 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 4: So that was a good fight. I want to talk 1463 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 4: about Holly home Man, Holly Holme. 1464 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 5: I was really impressed, first of all with this tremendous 1465 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 5: martial artist who showed great evolution in this fight, who 1466 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 5: showed a completely different approach than we have than. 1467 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 4: We've seen from her. 1468 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 5: Here's a woman in Holly Holme who got choked out 1469 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 5: by Misha Tate, who a lot of people said, you know, listen, 1470 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 5: if you just take take Holly Home down. 1471 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 4: You know, you could expose her. 1472 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 6: Well. 1473 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 5: She ended up using her ground game in this fight 1474 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 5: against Megan Anderson. I thought her takedowns looked solid. This 1475 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 5: is a woman who comes from a boxing background, a 1476 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 5: kickboxing background, and she looked pretty solid with her takedowns, 1477 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 5: with their ability control, you know, did a great job 1478 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,959 Speaker 5: of really neutering a much larger Megan Anderson. And again 1479 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 5: it was really nice, man, it was a nice performance 1480 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 5: from Holly who again still and I'm not criticizing her, 1481 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 5: it's because I am a fan and I think we 1482 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 5: still haven't seen the best of Holly. But she's still 1483 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 5: going into this these fights, you know, nervous and tight 1484 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 5: with a lot of pressure. It seems we still haven't 1485 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 5: seen everything that Holly can show out there. 1486 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 4: I truly believe that. 1487 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 5: I think she's that talented of a martial artist, and 1488 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 5: it's it's It's great to see her succeed out here 1489 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 5: in a completely different fashion using grappling skills. It just 1490 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 5: shows this is a very committed martial artist who was 1491 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 5: always humble in defeat or in victory. 1492 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 3: And she would agree with everything you just said, certainly 1493 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 3: the latter half. She's so hungry still right at thirty 1494 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 3: six years old, to regain her bantamweight title and to 1495 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 3: maybe become a two division champion. She still just has 1496 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 3: that mma app and I think part of that is 1497 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 3: because she transitioned to the game so late. So I 1498 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 3: think you're gonnaee Holly Holm for some time. 1499 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely, man, and she does deserve that shot against the 1500 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 5: man News. I think that's the fight that makes the 1501 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 5: mount of sense, most amount of sense. Holly has put 1502 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 5: herself in a situation where she's the she's one of 1503 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 5: the biggest names UH at one five, so she's given 1504 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 5: herself some nice options in both of those divisions. 1505 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 7: Yep. 1506 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 3: Well, I got to say, on a night in which 1507 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 3: there were eight decision fights and four split decisions overall, 1508 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 3: that this was one of the more memorable night of 1509 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 3: fights we have had and sometimes so congrats to everybody. 1510 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 3: UFC two twenty five and to Robert Whitaker and Joel Romero, 1511 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 3: I mean unbelievable, classic, my God, like make me want 1512 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 3: to go home and fucking put it right on all 1513 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 3: right before we get out of here. I am excited 1514 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 3: for this. I just got to make sure I got there, buddy, 1515 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 3: veil Box. So last week we teased this, right, So 1516 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 3: Fox Sports is Root for Your Roots campaign. 1517 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 2: How's that look? Yeah, get it up a little bit, 1518 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 2: get it out there. 1519 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Root for your Roots, right, Roots for your Roots twenty 1520 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 3: three in me, Fox Sports? 1521 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 2: All right, So this is our Root for Your Roots campaign. 1522 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 3: So Ken Flow and I took a twenty three and 1523 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 3: meter DNA test to determine our heritage and our roots 1524 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 3: to find out what country we're connected with. Largely though, 1525 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 3: because the United States of America will not be participating, 1526 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 3: So Ken Flow, I mean I root for the USA. 1527 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:26,479 Speaker 4: Flow. 1528 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Do you root for the US when they are in 1529 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 2: the world? 1530 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 4: Always? 1531 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 3: Always they're underdogs, right with respect to Peru, Right, they're 1532 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 3: always big underdogs. So since the Americans did not qualify, 1533 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 3: we're glad to be in the game now. So Ken 1534 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 3: Flow is going to reveal his probably next week. But 1535 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Minority came in the mail, so my genetic test, so 1536 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 3: Eastern European predominantly. I knew that. I always was told 1537 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 3: I was Lithuanian. Okay, So I also was told I 1538 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 3: am Ashkenazi Jewish. I knew that as well, a small 1539 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 3: part Western Asian and North African and broadly East Asian 1540 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 3: as well, but for the most part Eastern Europeans. So 1541 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 3: because the end result was that I have Eastern European roots, 1542 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 3: and because my wife's entire family is from Poland, and 1543 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 3: is Polish ladies and gentlemen, here we go. 1544 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 2: Baby, it's Poland for me. 1545 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 4: Oh gonna be. 1546 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 3: Po one right now, okay, And we got Annik on 1547 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 3: the back. 1548 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 4: Ah, that's sick. I like that. 1549 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm awesome sick. 1550 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 7: Right. 1551 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 3: So my daughter was born August fifth, so we went 1552 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 3: Annik five, go Poland, right. They give you a card 1553 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 3: to McDonald's can flow as well, so you can get. 1554 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Coffee to wake up early for the game. 1555 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 4: There we go. 1556 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,759 Speaker 3: No French fries. So when you get your McDonald's gift card, 1557 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 3: the coffee's outstanding. Some soccer chocolates in our reveal box 1558 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 3: as well, and then a Poland scarf kid too, I 1559 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 3: mean the official twenty eighteen FIFA World Cup scarf with 1560 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Poland on there, I mean, my wife's gonna be jealous. 1561 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,759 Speaker 3: So we're rooting for Poland. In terms of their chances, 1562 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,000 Speaker 3: I mentioned forty to one, so they got Robert win Dawski. 1563 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 3: But Wan Dawski, I hope I'm pronouncing that right. He 1564 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 3: plays for Bayern Munich. He's an outstanding scorer, one of 1565 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 3: the better players in the World Cup. This is an 1566 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 3: offensive team Poland not much goaltending. But I'm with Poland 1567 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,760 Speaker 3: forty to one. As for my action, ken Flow, I 1568 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 3: got a couple bets down already. I want to share 1569 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 3: this with you. So I bet on England at six 1570 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 3: to one. I like England to win it. I think 1571 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 3: there's some value there. I also put eight dollars on Peru. 1572 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 3: Oh eight dollar bet? An eight dollar bet on Peru 1573 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 3: to win the World Cup? Any idea what that'll pay you? 1574 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 7: A g. 1575 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:33,520 Speaker 2: Exactly? 1576 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 3: Really really the y plus plus there are one hundred 1577 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 3: and twenty five to one, So an eight dollar bet 1578 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 3: on Peru pays one thousand dollars. 1579 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 2: So we got eight bucks on Peru. 1580 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 3: And some people actually give them a chance to get 1581 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 3: out of their group, right, So it might yes, yeah, 1582 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, I mean certainly speaks 1583 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 3: screams value to me. 1584 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 2: Right now. 1585 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,679 Speaker 3: Brazil favored at four to one, followed closely by Germany, 1586 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 3: Spain and France's biggest long shot, Saudi Arabia. A one 1587 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 3: dollar bet on Saudi Arabia to win the twenty eighteen 1588 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 3: feet of World Cup pays one thousand dollars. Wow, but 1589 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 3: I don't think Saudi Arabia is gonna get it done. Actually, 1590 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 3: the biggest long shot USA it's there. Yeah, they're not 1591 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 3: in the tournament, not gonna be able to pull it off. Yeah, 1592 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 3: but you can watch the twenty eighteen feet for World 1593 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 3: Cup on Fox and on FS one. It begins on 1594 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 3: June fourteenth, that is this Thursday, and next week Can 1595 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,480 Speaker 3: Flow is going to reveal his box and has absolutely 1596 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 3: stunned if there is not a PERU team jersey in there, 1597 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 3: but maybe some suspense with the number and every. 1598 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 5: Right, I'm a mutt man, so I'm curious myself. I know, 1599 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 5: I'm a mix of a lot of different things. 1600 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 2: So he's got his results. No jersey yet. 1601 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 3: Big reveal coming up for the Flow next week, and 1602 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 3: thanks to Jody and everybody Fox Sports for letting us participate. 1603 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 3: Can't wait to rock this annec poland Jersey when I'm 1604 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 3: watching the World Cup ORR final thought today, Kenny, So, 1605 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 3: the world lost the great Anthony Bourdain last week and 1606 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 3: we just sort of wanted to shout him out on 1607 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 3: the way out. I saw him at a handful of 1608 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 3: live UFC events, but I never met the man, but 1609 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 3: he was an icon of so many people through TV 1610 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 3: or travel, or food or jiu jitsu. For our audience, 1611 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 3: he was a fixture in a lot of people's lives, 1612 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 3: impacted a ton of lives. Big UFC fan, obviously a 1613 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 3: Brazilian jiu jitsu practitioner, Kenny and competitor. I don't know 1614 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 3: if he ever met the man, but the MMA world 1615 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 3: certainly feel him this loss last week and this week 1616 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 3: of course as well. 1617 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 5: I met Anthony a few times, and he was such 1618 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 5: a lover of life man. He was one of those 1619 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 5: guys who I really looked up to. Just a brilliant man, 1620 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 5: an amazing writer. As far as his work on television, 1621 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 5: this guy, it was incredible what he was able to 1622 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 5: do and how many people tuned in to watch what 1623 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 5: Anthony Bourdain was going to say. Tony was one of 1624 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 5: those guys who was extremely humble, as smart as they come, 1625 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,640 Speaker 5: and a guy who really was inspiring the way that 1626 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,799 Speaker 5: he approached life. And this one hit me hard because 1627 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 5: I've met Tony a few times. I knew his ex 1628 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 5: wife as well, just good people, and my heart just 1629 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 5: broke for his family again. You know, suicide is one 1630 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 5: of those things that is really tough for families to 1631 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 5: deal with, and having dealt with with that, it was 1632 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 5: it was very hard to see that still sixty. 1633 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 4: One years old, young, with a family. It hit me hard, man. 1634 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 5: And but you know, I think in these type of situations, 1635 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 5: you want to remember the life and all the amazing 1636 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 5: things that this guy did. And I was really sad 1637 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 5: with that news because he was one of those guys 1638 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 5: who I really looked up to for a very long time, 1639 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 5: an amazing individual. 1640 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 3: I know, man, I know it shook you at your core. 1641 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 3: And I think that when you see a guy who 1642 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 3: seemingly has his dream job and has such a zest 1643 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 3: for life and seemingly loves his life and everything that 1644 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 3: he has worked so hard to put in it to 1645 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 3: then take their own life is just something that's hard 1646 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 3: to relate to. 1647 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 2: So hopefully if. 1648 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 3: You have similar emotions, you can get the proper help. 1649 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 3: But what an impact, and we dedicate today's podcast to 1650 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 3: the late great Anthony Bourdain. All right, thank you to 1651 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 3: our guest today, Curtis Blades. Great job by American top Teams, 1652 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 3: Dan Lambert, of course Ray Longo off the top. Thanks 1653 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: to our Fox Sports crew, the producers and those filling in, 1654 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 3: John Hill, Jeff Williams, Alyssa Green, and most importantly, thanks 1655 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 3: everybody for listening. This was a big show for us. 1656 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,880 Speaker 3: We were excited to do it and hopefully you enjoyed 1657 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 3: the content. We will be back next Monday. Until then 1658 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,639 Speaker 3: for Kenafum, John Annick Yo later. 1659 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 1: The John Anick and Kenny Florian podcast. 1660 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 9: Sports betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus. 1661 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 1: And Wagering Week is your antidote. 1662 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 9: I'm Tom Martin and I'm a veteran sports analyst and 1663 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 9: respected sports handicapper who will. 1664 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 4: Help build ESPN's brand. 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